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So /a/, I just finished watching Utena...
What the fuck happened?
Why were they undressed half the time?
Why does nearly everyone have serious issues?
Is this one of those endings that makes you really annoyed the first time you watch it but gets better over time?
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>>101684477
A bunch of pretentious shit
Fanservice
Fanservice
No
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>>101684477
Everything happened, and if you think about it carefully, pretty much everything makes sense.
Because homoeroticism.
Because only people with serious issues would chase something that "revolutionises the world" by taking possession of overly submissive girl.
It gets better with each re-watch.
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Yuri Bear PV when?
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>>101684647
>Pretentious
No u
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>>101684647
Thanks
>>101684747
I can see the point of the shadow plays and some of the stranger stuff that went on, but everything that goes on in the student council room appears completely random. Like the scene in the OP.
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>>101684929
It was 2deep4u, go back to moeshit.
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>>101684929
Most of the stuff that's "weird" is symbolic of something. Some stuff is there just because it would emphasise the scene or the character.
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>>101684981
But I don't even like moe
>>101685045
Maybe I'll watch it again after I clear my backlog.
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>>101685107
>I don't even like moe
>>>/v/
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>>101685045
Some of the stuff is there because it looks bitchin and cool aswell tho.
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>>101685176
>surfing_elephants.jpg
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>>101684477
One answer to all your questions:
Ichiro Okouchi
EMBRACE YOUR HATE, HE LIVES OFF OF IT
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>>101685209
That was neither bitchin nor cool, it was just lolrandom
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>>101685176
Okay then.
It's a little silly when a series is getting so deep with the metaphors that it's impossible to discern what's serious and what's there for comic relief.
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>>101685264
>its silly when a series is 2deep4me
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>>101685309
Eva is 2deep4me, but at least you know when it's trying to be deep and when it's trying to be funny.
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>>101684477
why is he talking into a bunch of robot penises?
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>>101685264
Ikuhara aims to entertain and bring a message at the same time.
Also, watch the movie if you haven't. It's fucking nuts.
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>>101685348
homoeroticism
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>>101685309
>>101684981
Literally the only thing you fags can spout
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>>101685361
It'll also give you better perspective on the themes of the show, since it is even more upfront about them than the TV series.
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>>101685361
I didn't like the movie. Felt it was too rushed. Especially in relationship development part.
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>>101684477
>What the fuck happened?
Utena and Anthy became adults
>Why were they undressed half the time?
Fabulous Max.
>Why does nearly everyone have serious issues?
Because they're interesting.
>Is this one of those endings that makes you really annoyed the first time you watch it but gets better over time?
It shouldn't make you annoyed the first time, but it does get better the more you understand about the show.
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>>101685403
>being this mad
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>>101685418
The characters are obviously not as well developed as in the series, but I think the aesthetics of the film greatly make up for it.
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>Is this one of those endings that makes you really annoyed the first time you watch it but gets better over time?

Dunno, I loved it right away.
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Being stuck in eternity is referring to being stuck in the past and not growing up, with Akio being a kingdom of a blind, one eyed-man.

That academy is something like a purgatory for people like that, they're all trapped in a web of lies.
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>>101685517
Mad about what? I'm just pointing out the staple feature of threads about Ikuhara's works.
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>>101685603
Same here.
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>>101685644
calm down m8 its only chinese cartoons
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>>101684477
>What the fuck happened?
They were all dead and "graduated" from limbo.
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>>101685644
Ikuhara threads tend to have a good bit of discussion supporting the depth of his works, but this thread isn't one of them.
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Yuri Bear PV when?
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I still remember my friend insisting that Penguindrum was just a cute show about penguins without any symbolism. Then the last few episodes aired and she was completely lost.

Good times.
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I like my 2deep shit but this show was just too much for me

I quit at the beginning of the second arc because it was just the same shit over and over again.
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>>101685899
>without any symbolism.
What was her reaction to Kanba going down the hall of memories in episode 10?
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>>101685912
The formulaic nature of the show does put a lot of people off. I'd suggest giving it another try, since things start getting a lot better around where you were.
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>>101685912
I watched it all and its the same shit till the last 2 episodes. You can skip 30 eps in middle and you wont miss anything.
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>>101685982
>The formulaic nature of the show does put a lot of people off
Monster of the week in general tends to put off people who haven't seen much anime from my general observation. Its almost the same way SoL tends to put them off aswell. The story doesn't seem to be moving forward in both case one because the elements are largely static and the other because the same thing happens at the end of every episode. I think western people might tend to prefer plot driven things with lots happening over character building things.
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>>101686044
>You can skip 30 eps in middle and you wont miss anything.
This is false. You miss a ton of character development and setup for the finale.
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>>101685982
>It's formulaic because the viewer is suffering from eternity just like Utena

I really liked how it was :
>First arc
Wow look at all these whacky, quirky characters ahaha
>Second arc
Oh they've all got some serious shit
>Third arc
Oh, they're all serious dirtbags
1,000 Swords of Hate
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>>101686044
Aside from all the character building, homoeroticism and pretty good soundtrack.
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>>101686118
>character development
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>>101686153
Yes, that is something that occurs in Utena.
Black Rose arc is mostly for developing side characters, but they each have implications for members of the main cast which gives their development importance overall.
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Swagonji
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>>101686115
I've put up with monster of the week before. This is just a whole new level. All this recycled footage, every episode. So annoying.

>The story doesn't seem to be moving forward in both case one because the elements are largely static and the other because the same thing happens at the end of every episode.
So much this.
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>>101686195
No one had any character development. And everything that happens in any episode is forgotten in next. Even after "rape" episode there is no change to Utena. If someone missed that ep, he wouldn't even notice that anything happened.
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>>101686374
You are entirely wrong. Are you telling me that the cast doesn't change from the beginning of the series? If so, you must have actually skipped episodes yourself, because it should be blatantly obvious how every major cast member has developed. It's the entire point of their duel arcs. The clashing of ideologies. Each character develops from it.
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>>101686374
Utena isn't raped you dumb shit.
Why must people continue to lie.
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>>101686374
>Even after "rape" episode there is no change to Utena
Other than her obvious nervousness about it and how it affected her relationship with her prince and Anthy? Even Juri and Miki picked up on it.
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>>101684824
I would hope soon, the manga was just announced.
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>>101684477
Utena is a revolutionary cartoon that has touched many lives.
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>>101685213
>One answer to all your questions:
>Ichiro Okouchi

He did very little for this property. Wrote a couple of novels.
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>>101688397
I remember thst thread, I asked him if he had seen the tv series, he hasn't.
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Is Utena the most fabulous anime ever made?
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>>101689150
Yes.
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>>101689150
No.
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>>101689150
Maybe.
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>>101689419
>>101689692
>>101689772
Can you repeat the question?
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>>101685966
It's so obvious Ikuhara just throw away any plan he had on MPD's first half, except for the soulmate crap, and improvise during the 2nd half.
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>>101689852
Are you the boss of me now?
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>>101686213
best boy. underappreciated.
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>>101689955
That was your friend's reaction to episode 10?
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>>101690554
>Miki not best boy

Opinion disregarded.



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