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Is there a harem series where the winner isn't immediately obvious? One where the story actually keeps you guessing the whole way through?

Hard mode: Is there a harem series where the winner is actually someone who was completely unexpected?
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>>101675581
Kampfer, I think.
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Funny thing is, supposedly, the winner of Love Hina was originally gonna be Motoko.

That would have been a better ending.
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>>101675811
Didn't Akamatsu say it was mostly a story of how he met his wife?
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>>101675653
kampfer doesn't count
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>>101675881
Became obvious when she was the only one he had any sort of connection with. Though, yeah, you're right.
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Green green. Ichigo 100%
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>>101675881
But that's not the reporter chick.

I fell in love with her immediately and was so disappointed to learn that she wasn't a viable heroine that I stopped playing Shuffle then and there.
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>>101675581

Ending in Mashiroiro Symphony fits this i believe.
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>>101675581
Isekai. Because despite the obvious harem antics having a winner is totally not part of it.
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>>101675581

Negima

We still don't know who won, thanks Ken
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>>101676431
I've heard the ending drew forth legendary rage.
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>>101675581
For the obvious, Shuffle.
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>>101675915
>Ichigo 100%
Wrong girl won
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>>101677312
At least worst girl doesn't win.
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>>101675811
This.

I literally hate Love Hina only because they disregarded the childhood promise that had started and driven the entire story for a cookie-cutter tsundere ending. You can't destroy your foundation and expect your house to stand.
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>>101679077
Well shit I got the wrong girl.

My argument still stands, you don't ignore your roots entirely for a cookie-cutter ending. Especially when you already have a couple who fit that relationship type. Do something new with the characters, give the audience what you promised them.
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>>101675581
>Hard mode: Is there a harem series where the winner is actually someone who was completely unexpected?
Yes.
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>>101679378
The winner is still Kafka, it's just she is EVERY GIRL AT THE SAME TIME.
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The Shuffle anime. It's also ecchi, but the winner is not obvious. This is the only anime where the girl I was rooting for won(I never root for the obvious choices). Check it out.
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>>101680194
Somebody posted Shuffle already, but in either case it's still a VN too. Even though the anime took many liberties, VNs often have multiple winners (no canon route, harem route, etc) so it's not like anyone is 'unexpected' in those, since it's more or less whoever you like best.
Although I suppose most VN anime don't tend to omnibus it.
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Nice REC thread, OP.
Ichigo 100% cake girl wins
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>>101675811
[citation needed]
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>>101676352
Masaki series endings are obvious because they are always harem endings
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>>101675581
Seta's got some huge fucking shoulders.
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>>101679322
Naru was such a cunt. He could have ditched her for any of the other sweethearts around him but didn't. Then again, Keitaro was a faggot himself, what with him being Akamatsu Ken's self insert and all. Maybe it's just a case of both of them deserving each other like the worthless pieces of shit they are.
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>>101675581
>Is there a harem series where the winner isn't immediately obvious?
They're all obvious, because almost every one of them follows Rumiko's love triangle formula. The amount of variables never changes the outcome, which is that the first girl introduced/main heroine is the girl that wins the submissive punching bag MC. And this predicted outcome will never change because the autistic children cannot handle changes. Look at any title where the main heroine did not 'win', that title is quickly slammed by the autists reading it.
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>>101675811
>Motoko
You've got your names mixed up kid, it was supposed to be Mutsumi Otohime. The series was originally planned to end after volume 8, with Mutsumi ending up the victor. Akamatsu had mentioned in an interview that Love Hina was not going to end by having the MC pick the usual girl and he had expected backlash for his decision. I believe this was from volume Zero, which was a character profile novel released leading up to volume 8. But then he decided to continue writing the series, because money talks, and eventually he flip-flopped on his ending. He completely sold out. In fact if you go back, you'll notice Mutsumi was a lot more relent before volume 9 began. As he ran out of ideas to keep her part of the story, he wrote her off and that's how the violent tsundere won.



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