So what did /a/ think about the SnO ending?
Ikaros best girl.
Damn right she is.
I've only been following the anime so I haven't yet seen the ending but I hear it's remarkably shitty.
I'll probably pick up the manga after the new movie comes out.
That's not Hiyori.
Go back to making dinner Kevin
Funny how Astraea wound up the most powerful Angeloid in the end.
Rei angel best girl
>not fucking ikaros
Not really, she was the most combat orientated. Even Ikaros who was overpowered as shit was more like a tool of destruction than a weapon. If Ikaros was like a wrecking ball than Astraea would've been heavy artillery.
But Astraea completely thrashed Chaos, and Chaos was leagues above Ikaros.
It was shit and I'm glad I dropped the series ages ago.
and yet suu just stopped doing anything with her because he's a faggot
>more like a tool of destruction than a weapon
shit like the rest of the serie
I think I get what that anon refers to.
Astraea is more of a combat angeloid than Ikaros in the sense that her weapons are more geared towards fighting individuals than Ikaros' weapons, which seems to be more geared towards destruction of infrastructure.
Chaos had even more firepower than Ikaros did and still lost. It's kind of strange, even though she's supposed to be the most powerful to the point of being almost emotionless, she winds up outclassed by the end.
Author just seemed to stop caring about Ikaros
Even when she's best girl? How could he. I hope Sohara at least lost.
Being a Suu's manga, no
Nymph worst girl.
But she's the best girl.
>I hope Sohara at least lost.
We're still waiting on translations, but judging by the scans, it doesn't seem like anybody won or lost. Ikaros got screwed over in the final chapter though. She, Nymph, and Astraea did. Unfortunately, Sohara was the one who got the spotlight.
Why'd you have to remind me?
Whatever happened to Woxxy? I wonder if he's back with Nymph now since she's alive.
Utter trash. Everyone dies, then everyone is alive. Cliched and boring as fuck.
Mangaka just don't have the guts to massacre their cast. Just recently Rozen Maiden ended and Peach-Pit chickened out and only killed one person.
It was fun and decent up until the ending. The ending was pretty bad because deus ex machina.
RM was pretty disappointing too.
Huh, I didn't think the scanlations has come that far.
They haven't. That was just something I did to for a little typesetting practice.
Still can't believe best doll died.
Wait a minute. I thought Shinku is still alive. I don't even know what to believe anymore ;_;
>Chaos was leagues above Ikaros.
For all of one fight where she burned herself out. Ikaros is the strongest angeloid who can sustain her strength.
Her Rosa Mystica was shattered while everyone else got revived. That last page of Tale 66 is everyone going on a journey to revive her.
>Mangaka just don't have the guts to massacre their cast
First time reading a Suu's manga?
Stop bitching, finally we have a good end for everybody from this author
Okay, so I guess the spoiler I read is true. There's still hope.
It's the fucking ending though. Who ends their most famous work like that? No more Rozen Maiden. Oh well, it beats Shugo Chara's ending. Now that was rage-inducing.
Ikaros and Nymph for me.
I can understand why people aren't happy with the ending. It's not that they don't like a happy ending, but how it was written and handled. I'm happy for the girls for their happiest, but I do have some gripes about how it happened.
Let me dream, bro. Let me dream ;_;
>Shugo Chara's ending
Oh boy, I haven't caught up with this in ages. Sounds like I need to check it out. How bad is it?
Chaos's Apollon would have beaten everyone, so it's not like stamina is an issue. No point in discussing power levels, though, since not even the author bothers to keep them straight and there's the whole pandora thing.
Why a reset end is bad? yeah, it's cliche, but if Suu had keep everybody dead, it would had be the same shit like Watashi no messiah
Shugo Chara is actually really good up until the final arc, where it gets weird. This page pretty much sums it up.
Time to put SC near the top of my back log.
I think the better question is why the need to kill everyone to ensure a reset end? You can have the girls struggle hard, but come out on top with help from Tomoki and genius Sugata. No need to kill them all only to reset it all. This is my personal feeling and thoughts, so don't take it too heart.
I CAN HEAR MY HEART BELL
The movie is going to be full of suffering isn't it.
The ending was heavily foreshadowed and it resolved almost everything. Complaining about a reset end just because it was a reset end is just pedestrian. First of all it was more of a resurrection end. Secondly, there was a wish reset in the second chapter. The author justified a happy ending as one of the very first things he did. Third, he set up a timeskip manga to show that things weren't just fine after everyone dodged a bullet.
Well, i agree with that, but we know what we will get in a Suu's manga, killing is the only thing that he knows
I don't think people doubted there wasn't going to be a serious and emotional showdown since that has been foreshadowed to come.
Do we know for sure it's a sequel and not an alternative universe?
Literally the first time I've asked for an asspull reset ending to happen and I got it. Couldn't be any happier, thank you Suu.
We never saw a fraction of what Ikaros's Pandora mode could do because her most powerful weapons caused collateral.
If she fought Chaos in the sky with nobody to worry about she could have pulled it off. Chaos's biggest weapon was fear and she was a bit scrubby and not very innovative in actual combat.
Didn't Ikaros say that her shields couldn't block Chaos's Apollon? Then there's how it seems Chaos was much faster than Ikaros was. The character statements in SnO are a bit weird, in Ch. 56 they talk about how Chaos had surpassed Ikaros in power but reverse it in Ch. 75 when they have Ikaros as the strongest again.
Well, pandora kind of makes power levels moot since it seems to pull everyone out of trouble depending on plot.
>Do we know for sure it's a sequel and not an alternative universe?
Every sign so far points to sequel.
>I think the better question is why the need to kill everyone to ensure a reset end?
Because everyone was so powerful that it would be bullshit to have someone just knocked out.
Now that i think about it, there is not love for Seiren, still dead ;_;
>Didn't Ikaros say that her shields couldn't block Chaos's Apollon?
I think she had implied that she couldn't smother multiple Apollon blasts to protect everyone like she did the first time. She could protect herself and people who were close but the town or nation would have been fucked. In the empty sky she could have done something clever like dodge or outrun the Apollon missiles or shoot them down.
>Then there's how it seems Chaos was much faster than Ikaros was.
I didn't get this impression. If Chaos was faster then she could have escaped her first dunking and there is no basis to compare their speed afterwards.
Chaos managed to get Astraea before anyone reacted and there's the whole "her power has surpassed even the newly evolved Uranus Queen."
>Chaos has more firepower
Only after she ate the cores of the Melans.
But there are shitty translations. They just aren't on batoto since they're cgrascal tier.
Well, Astraea still defeated her even with the Melan core. The only confusing part would be Chaos calling Ikaros the strongest despite the opposite being said in chapter 56.
>And nothing happened. The end
And everything was right with the world
Yep. The best parts of SnO were when they were just fooling around like in Season 1.
Well that was Chaos and Astraea, which doesn't serve to compare Chaos and Ikaros. During the tournament Ikaros scooted out from Astraea midswing, so we know that Ikaros is faster.
It's not even a great basis between Chaos and Astraea since ambushes have a 100% first attack record in this series.
>"her power has surpassed even the newly evolved Uranus Queen."
There are construction machines with more power than a gun but a gun is a better weapon. As it turned out Chaos's extra power ended up being a liability.
Ultimately, I don't believe that anyone has given accurate specs the entire run. Neither Nymph's nor the creator's figures have been accurate therefore those of a Harpy aren't credible either.
Yeah, The part with the harpies, even when the plot was thicken, was great
Astraea didn't exactly defeat her, she pushed her shit into a corner after Pandora activated.
Oh god, what a shitty ending. Even worse than messiah
I thought it was alright. It kind of fell apart in the 2nd arc but Kirito and Asuna finally ended up together so it was a pretty good love story. I wish they did more episodes with the school where they all went to catch up after being stuck in the game.
Yeah well fuck you too.
>Super serious powerlevel debate in a comedy manga
Jesus Christ. Stop that.
>you will never use ikaros as a pillow and fall asleep cuddling with her
>Not going for the superior cushion
>no waifu wars in a waifu war mango!
Hate is the great unifier, etc
Not really, the fact that is was a cop out reset ending was surprising in an of itself. Nobody expected it because the writer is an asshole. We all thought they were dead for good and Tomoki was going to end up finally getting his peaceful life or something like that.
Even though it's a reset ending, I was really glad that all of the characters are still alive. SnO's cast is one that I really grew to love.
Doesn't pandora make power levels pointless anyway? It always seems like whenever someone is about to lose or die, it activates and, well, plot happens.
Yeah, Suu did a great work with the characters, except for Nymph she is still a bitch
Double pleb. Ikaros has maximum wingspan for maximum wingcuddle.
i want to cuddle with ikaros' wings ;_;
How can you not love Nymph? She's adorable and pure love.
Right, the biggest bitch is probably Sohara. Why does she keep on hitting Tomoki if she secretly wants to fuck him?
Pretty much. Pandora runs on power of self evolution aka power of plot.
Not him but I love nymph, I just want to break her a bit first.
Because she is a bitch and a bad onee-san
Damn, that has got to make fights very easy to write.
I was expecting them to be in a Matrix simulation after all the build-up.
>How can you say you love her if you don't want to abuse her?
And then comfort her afterwards.
Exactly, this is my fetish.
Bullying or abuse? But she isn't the only one who does that kind of thing. The manga is a comedy, ffs. Ikaros, Mikako, Harpies, Oregano, and Sohara all do things like that. Mikako especially when she goes crazy and sinister on the cast.
No way, Sohara is only a bitch to Tomoki. Nymph is a bitch to everyone
But is a bitch only for the sake of being it
How so? I don't remember Nymph picking on anyone but her imouto. And that's just comedy.
Or are you going to say Ikaros is a bitch too because of comedy like this?
>Mangaka just don't have the guts to massacre their cast
WHAT IS SPACE RUNAWAY IDEON
That's wrong though. She just likes to pick on Astraea because she's older and sees it as a privilege. It's gap moe since she looks younger and usually is treated like a child.
Nymph is best.
That's Ikaros being a retard, and Nymph only picks Bwaaka, only because Astrea is "lesser" than her
>I don't know who Suu is
She has to be bitch still if you're going to take comedy to harm seriously, just like you do with Nymph.
Astraea being an idiot is of no surprise to, well, everyone. Nymph doesn't care so much for that fact, she just enjoys bullying her. That's all. In serious scenes, she of course cares for her.
Mikako obviously must be the biggest bitch since she isn't afraid to kill everyone for pleasure and amusement, amirite?
Calling it right now.
>and it resolved almost everything.
You mean it resolved almost nothing.
Hell nymph still has her bomb-collar SURE IS A HAPPY ENDING
And she's the only one that can acitvate it.
Still, it'd be much more convenient if there was no collar around your neck.
Ikaros doesn't do that. Astraea tries not to do it, never with intention if it happens.
Nymph a shit.
You clearly are biased. You haven't replied back to >>101663804 either.
I'm not him.
Yet, you go by the same selective ogic. How coincidental.
Welp, since most of the girls are "bitches", then they're all a shit.
can angeloids get pregnant?
Well, having a collar of sorts is kind of an angeloid requirement
Astraea got around that.
>I don't remember Nymph picking on anyone but her imouto.
The first time we see her she attacks Ikaros and enjoys it.
The first time anyone gave her something she threw it back at his head.
Everyone was having fun at Christmas when Tomoki was playing Santa and Nymph killed the buzz.
Nymph willingly raided the her sister's melon patch and then blamed Astraea.
Nymph hacked Tomoki so that he would drown at a water park.
She hacked the most helpful harpy on heresay
Nymph left Sugata to die in the Dive game just because Tomoki might imprint her.
Nymph wanted to kill Hiyori and wouldn't save her without a handhold.
Nymph tortured the medical angeloids.
She was going to forcefully move an injured Tomoki even though basic First Aid tells you never to move the body.
She attacked a pacified Chaos because she killed a "friend" that was made ten minutes ago, whom she was just jealous of moments before.
Sohara just keeps Tomoki in check. Ikaros usually only attacks when provoked. Tomoki limits it to harmless sexual harassment. Even Mikako makes sure that other people derive enjoyment from her twisted games. But Nymph brings it whole new level. Nobody matches her for shear constant bitchiness. Nobody is as asinine as Nymph is to Astraea. Nobody brings less to the table than Nymph in return. Nymph is the biggest bitch, comedy or no comedy.
She is only good for a few cute moments and for a couple deus ex machinas where someone else still has to help her. The moment anyone might have fun around her she takes her ball and goes home. She is so terrible that the author even made a character specifically to spell it out for people.
Even fucking Minos has moments where he acts like he could have been a decent person once but Nymph never realizes what a colossal fuck up she is.
nymph just needs some dicking and some love
She was loli Sohara
Loli Sohara "died" and she woke up
She made a busty Sohara program to keep Tomoki happy
You're trying to make her sound heartless and a bad person through slanted writing, many of which are taken out of context. Essentially, that's trolling. She didn't want to kill Hiyori, the actual reason was because she believed she had to and decided to take on the burden of killing her in order to save Tomoki and the town. But the way you're implying and making it out to be is trolling. Seriously.
Aside from Delta's part and the out-of-context ones, most there technically aren't picking on behavior, but rather her spazzing out from Tomoki being perverted, being tsundere/jealous, or the time before her character development. Also, it's comedy scenes, etc. You're taking this all to seriously and personal for some reason.
>wanted to kill Hiyori and wouldn't save her
Read the chapter again, you aren't paying enough attention.
She took it upon herself to 'kill' Hiyori because everyone(including her) can't bear to do it. She broke down crying before she shot Paradise Song.
>Trying super hard
You still aren't going to reply to >>101663804, aren't you?
It was alright
Now if only that magical girl sequel series would get fully scanned and translated
You don't want to.
The suffering is heavy.
what does ikaros smell like?
watermelon doesn't smell like much
Worse then Sora and Messiah?
>Nymph willingly raided the her sister's melon patch and then blamed Astraea.
Well it was Astraeas idea
>Nymph hacked Tomoki so that he would drown at a water park.
Only after he groped everyone
But they have a smell
At least watermelon candy and bubblegum does
I must confess I was complete ass blasted by this fucking ending
It'd be nice if Suu redraws Chaos for the ending. She looks like a midget with that ridiculously oversized head.
Yeah thats what a lot of us wanted, the writer is typically a dickwad and fucks over the characters in the end.
The fact that she was going to kill Hiyori before even considering her primary hacking ability at all means that she wanted to kill her. Then she was the strongest electronic warfare angeloid which means her subsequent failure was improbable. When she succeeded only because Tomoki held her hand her motive was clear. The time frame where she failed to sleep with Tomoki is when she wanted Hiyori out of Tomoki's memories and out of his life. Any apparent reluctance was thus feigned.
>Aside from Delta's part and the out-of-context ones, most there technically aren't picking on behavior, but rather her spazzing out from Tomoki being perverted, being tsundere/jealous, or the time before her character development.
None of them are out of context and you are using telltale signs of bitchiness to try and say that she isn't a bitch. Furthermore the magnitude and quantity of her bitchiness outweighs all considerations.
I didn't even read it until now but everything there was already addressed. Try reading comprehension.
>Well it was Astraeas idea
Nymph was the mature party and thus responsible.
>Only after he groped everyone
Mindrape is excessive when a simple punch would do.
>Worse then Sora and Messiah?
It may be on par with them.
Also, if you have read Judas, some of the lines will be pretty familiar.
Your post is invalid for having no credibility. Anyone can see it, you're a huge troll making up a bunch of theories and slanted journalism level bashing.
The only way to deal with you is to ignore you, and I'll do just that.
>she was going to kill Hiyori before even considering her primary hacking ability
Fun fact: Emotions cloud your judgement and thinking
>Nymph left Sugata to die in the Dive game just because Tomoki might imprint her.
>She was going to forcefully move an injured Tomoki even though basic First Aid tells you never to move the body.
If Oregano didn't appear, whether they moved Tomoki or not, he would still die, he was on the verge of death. Basic common sense tells you to get an injured person to the hospital, she did just that.
>She attacked a pacified Chaos because she killed a "friend" that was made ten minutes ago
A friend that was made 10 minutes ago is still a friend, besides, they spent a long time together already.
>but everything there was already addressed
No, you didn't and now you're still without an argument regarding how nearly all other girls carry out abuse and harm of their own, something you're turning a blind eye. The hole you're in is just going to get deeper unless you admit you're biased and a hypocrite, which you are.
>>101669024 an >>101671010 has said all that needs to be said about you.
....is it to much to ask no suffering from a suu series?
Isn't an extra chapter going to be released at the end of the month ? Perhaps it'll clarify the situation.
Ikaros love ending pls ;__;