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So far the Admirals colors have "somewhat" matched up with their abilities since purple is the gravity color in One Piece. With this in mind what kind of power might Green Bull have?

Powermanga for those who haven't read it:
http://read.powermanga.org/read/one_piece/en/0/737/page/2
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Radiation-themed Godzilla zoan fruit
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Is this OP general? I have a question.

Can Marco ever die? A Phoenix is supposed to be reborn after dying right?
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>>101605836

Radiation to complete the new Admirals trio: Fuji (gravity), Kizaru (electromagnetic force) and Green Bull (strong nuclear force)
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>>101605836

Acid Logia
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>>101606836

He can't die because this is One Piece
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>>101606836
Slap some seastone cuffson the guy and shoot him in the head. He's dead now.
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>>101606836
Oda answered in the SBS that his regeneration isn't infinite. Sufficient damage would kill him. He didn't give any specifics though. I assume something that would instantly kill him would do it, like getting his heart ripped out or his head cut off.

In his pure Zoan form he seems intangible and attacks seem to go right through him though, so I don't know about that. Garp proved that he can be smacked down though.
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>>101606836
See image.
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>>101606897
Acid doesn't fit with Light and Gravity.
Also the next one will probably be a zoan, not a logia.

Can anyone think of something green that relates to light/gravity/???? theme (i.e. radiation). It also has to be zoan.
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>>101610107
>implying Fujitora isn't gravitation logia
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>>101610107
Fujitora is gravity cause purple. Going off the top of my head, which is terrible, I've always associated green with poison, earth or time. I expect some form of earth logia, although I have nfi how Oda would do it, but I wouldn't put it past him to develop a way to make him time based without making it OP as fuck.
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if bart was at the war he could've instantly wiped out all the vice admirals and WB and crew could've just bumrushed the admirals
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Reminder that lightning is not only light but it's also magnitudes hotter than magma, which by akainu's own logic allows enel to burn him and therefore makes it superior. Therefore Enel fruit is > Akainu + Kizaru's fruit

Give me one reason why enel's fruit isn't the most powreful logia
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>>101613767
Because the protagonist of the series is immune to it.
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>>101613883
>magma can burn luffy
>lightning is not only hotter than magma but its mere presence can heat the surrounding air to a temperature hotter than magma
>can't burn luffy

wat? even luffy was burned by the gold melted by enel.

the mangai isn't just contradicting physics, it's literally contradicting its own pages
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>>101614081

Have you ever seen lightning melt rocks?
Hotness is not only the temperature in Celsius, but heat energy in general. A candle has a higher temperature than magma. Magma has more heat than candle
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>>101606836
Magellan can kill Marco.
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>>101605836
Green = Plant Life, OP.
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>>101606836
Drown, like everyone.
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>>101614906
Dank-Dank Fruit

He's a marijuana logia that can turn himself into pot smoke and get everyone high
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It used to be logia-logia-logia

Now it's logia-paremecia-???

So it suggest the last one is zoan.

And since he's called the green bull he might as well be a bull.
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I've been rewatching the series for the past 3 weeks and I got questions

How did Queen Otohime take King neptunes dick?

Will Sabo join the straw hats?

Who will get Aces devil fruit? I kind of doubt Oda will give luffy 2 devil fruits


tfw Koala first joins the Sun Pirates and you cry when Arlong hits her
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>>101615176

>How did Queen Otohime take King neptunes dick?

He sprayed the semen into the sea, she collected it or however fish fuck.

>Will Sabo join the straw hats?

Sabo is a part of Dragon's crew aka th revolutionaries, so no.

>Who will get Aces devil fruit? I kind of doubt Oda will give luffy 2 devil fruits

So far everyone things Rebecca will get it since that's the only purpose of her still being in the tournament and Oda wasting our time on her.
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>>101615176
>How did Queen Otohime take King neptunes dick?

The same hole Shirahoshi came from.

>Will Sabo join the straw hats?

Doubtful. He'll probably at least toss the mera mera to Luffy then leave.

>Who will get Aces devil fruit? I kind of doubt Oda will give luffy 2 devil fruits

I still don't think it's beyond Oda to give Luffy a second fruit but more likely it'll stay on his ship like all the big name pirates have done (Roger, Whitebeard, Shanks) until it's used as another plot device (someone tries stealing it) or it's eaten by an idiot/accidentally.
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>>101615176
>Who will get Aces devil fruit? I kind of doubt Oda will give luffy 2 devil fruits
luffy can't already use fire..would be retarded to give him ace fruit , same with sanji
can't see anyone on the crew that would fit having it
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>>101615176
sabos obviously getting the mera mera no mi. wether or not he plans on eating it, or donating it to the revolutionary cause is still to speculate. it would be cool watching sabo using it against akainu
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>>101606836
>Marco goes phoenix kick
>Kizaru sticks out his arm to block
>Marco clearly missing the arm and getting blocked by a fucking admiral jacket armpit
>Kizaru's face

Marco fags please.
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>beta-beta no mi
heh
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>>101613883
The funny thing is, Luffy didn't even beat Enel. He just hit him with a golden ball and knocked him away.
Like a few pages later Enel was shown just fine, sailing his magical fairy ship to the moon.
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So, can Smoker turn into different kinds of smoke?
Could he win by making his enemies high as fuck?
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>>101616829
What makes you think he couldn't do that before?
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>>101616851
Because all he makes is job smoke
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>>101616800
Those few pages took place over the course of hours, enough that the sky went from shining from the sun to having a clear sight of the moon in the night sky.

The guy was KO'd for a long ass amount of time.
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>>101617474
Prove it.
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>>101617500
Uh, go READ the fucking manga again maybe? Go WATCH the fucking anime?

Do you need me to hold your fucking hand as you search google or something nigger?
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>>101617573
>The guy was KO'd
Again, prove it.
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>>101617500
Enel's objective was to destroy the island.
Luffy stopped him, therefore luffy beat him
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>>101617706
That was a passing thought. His objective was to get his ship mobile and go to Fairy Vearth.
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>>101617754
The biggest cockmongler full of himself self-worshipping asshole just happened to get his ass whooped so hard it took him until night time to start flying to the moon when he got his clock cleaned during the day.

You really think if he wasn't knocked the fuck out or scared shitless of Luffy he would forgive such a transgression being the faggot he is?

You are in such denial it's disgusting. As usual, only in One Piece threads do we get negative level readers filled with delusions.
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>>101618013
Hey.
Prove it.
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>>101618013

Or he just went out of the atmosphere and it appeared to be night... you know because above a certain height you dont see the fucking blue sky and thus see the moon as if it were night.
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>>101616829
morel is a better smoke user
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>>101616695
in th anime,as he pushes the sword down into the scabbard, the strength of the gravity increases
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in order:
-Doflamingo
-Vergo
-Diamante
-Pica
-Trebol
-Sugar
-Monet
-Gladius
-Violet
-Lao G
-Senior Pink
-Dellinger
-Baby 5
-Machvise
-Buffalo
-Jora
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>>101618356
Monet needs to be higher.
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he can control plants.
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who is this guy? i don't remember his name
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>>101605836
Well there's definately going to be an Acid logia or paramecia at some point in the series, and it generally fits with green. However Big Mom may also have an acid fruit seeing how her drool produced fumes when it touched the ground.
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>>101618630
hack, the fishman karate guy. barto one shotted him after he got too cocky. also turns out hes a revolutionary
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>>101618630
Hack
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>>101618356
Going by the image of the DQ Family I'm going to say that Dellinger is the weakest in Diamante's faction.
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>>101618785
he probably has some retarded devil fruit that we haven't seen yet, but at the smae time i believe that bellamy didn't fight back when dellinger attacked him, and bellamy could have beaten him no problem if he tried
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>>101618630
So if Koala outranks Hack can it be assumed that she is stronger than him?
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>>101618855
She doesn't necessarily outrank him, but probably does. Given she's the fishman karate substitute teacher or whatever it was, yeah probably.
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>>101605836
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>>101618855
hack probably isn't even that strong. he jobbed some fodder and then got himself jobbed by barto. whereas koala's probably on some jinbei/fisher tiger level shit
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>>101618855
He doesn't have to report to her because she's his superior, but simply because he's an undercover agent and has to rely info to someone.
But judging by her status as fishman karate trainer or master or whatever, she's probably pretty high regardless.
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>>101618918
>Fisher Tiger
>strong
LOL
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>>101618948
well it took like a whole group of vice admirals to kill him and he did manage to break into MARIEJOA and get past cp0 as well as the rest of the world noble's top tier security. also jinbei, the shichibukai, was his subordinate so yes, i would say he's pretty damn strong
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>>101619021
He snuck into some place at night and broke some locks, big whoop.
Then he died of gunshot wounds.
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>>101619021
>also jinbei, the shichibukai, was his subordinate
...years before he was that strong, yes
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>>101619042
>Then he died of gunshot wounds.
So did Whitefacialhair.
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Which five Devil Fruits were Pell talking about that allowed the user to fly?
Because by my count it is atleast six, seven if you count the non-canon ones.
Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Falcon (Pell)
Marcos unnamed Devil Fruit
Fuwa Fuwa No Mi (Shiki)
Guru Guru No Mi (Buffalo)
Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Kabutomushi (Kabu)
Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Suzumebachi (Bian)
And the Non-Canon Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Eagle
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>>101619042
in the flashback mariejoa is all on fire and shit, so he obviously caused a significant amount of carnage. also tons of the slaves he freed had devil fruits so security around the slave pen area would have been really capable anyway
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>>101619096
I'm afraid that might be terribly outdated and retconned.
Today anyone can fly with geppou.
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>>101619086
No, he died of EVERYTHING.
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>>101619096
i think that flying zoans in egenral count as one of the 5 fruits

-certain zoans
-guru guru no mi
-fuwa fuwa no mi
-fujitora's fruit
-certain logias in general
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>>101619096
In short, Pell was an idiot that doesn't know shit about shit.
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>>101619155
He was alive after he got stabbed, he was still alive after he got half of his head burned off by Akainu, but he died after he was shot by BB pirates. And that's all that matters.
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>>101619071
he was offered the position shortly after fisher tiger's death when the sun pirates were just about to disband
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>>101619195
They stabbed/shot him, did they not?
Anyhow I choose to believe he just finally succumbed to his illness at that given time.
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>>101619213
That was mostly a political move though.
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>>101618356
From what we've seen, Pica definitely seems like he should be stronger than Diamante.
>>101619021
There was never really anything to suggest Tiger was stronger than Jinbe though.
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>>101618682
>>101618688
ty guys!
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>>101618917
>Green Bull has the Ooze Ooze fruit
>Can create a slime that evolves basic creatures into sentient warriors
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>>101619252
you still have to be powerful/have access to powerful allies/subordinates to become a shichibukai, because you're expected to fight and defeat big shot pirates. for example were yet to see a shichibukai who isn't capable of wrecking a super rookie
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>>101619516
You mean, like Crocodile and Moria?
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>>101619329
Took a group of VAs to kill him, he had to be at least as strong as Luffy is
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>>101619561
they got rekt by the protagonist though, so it's different. also both of them could have finished luffy off at their leisure any time they wanted. but once again, because protagonist, they got "cocky" and spared him/screwed with him (although moriah sparing him was somewhat necessary for oars) thus giving luffy enough time to "aquire" the necessary plot devices to beat them.
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>>101615176
>rewatching
what the fuck, just read it you faggot.
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>>101619574
>Took a group of VAs
The highest rank marine confirmed there was Strawberry, he was a rear admiral then.
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>>101619096
Wasn't he talking about five bird zoan fruits?
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>>101619096
Essentially:
Ito Ito, Ope Ope, Moku Moku, Horo Horo(even though it's an astral projection) Bara Bara, to some effect Suna Suna, Kilo Kilo, etc.
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>>101620179
Flight =/= gliding, floating, swinging, jumping,etc
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>people think that Cora worked for Doflamingo
>implying it wasn't the other way around and Doflamingo didn't backstab Cora

I seriously doubt Law would respect anyone who worked under Doflamingo. And I'm sure Doflamingo would remember killing one of his top crew member thirteen years ago.

I'm guessing that Cora was Law's hero or something and that Cora was the one to come up with the card naming with himself as the Heart and Doflamingo as Joker for obvious reasons.
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>>101616620
his foot is stretched out and connects with Kizaru's shoulder
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>>101605836
Green = plants, nature, trees etc

We will obviously get a Hashirama Hashirama fruit.
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Will Kidd have full Magneto powers now? He seems like a likely candidate to be one of the yonkous later on which means he should have a pretty haxed power.
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>>101618918
>whereas koala's probably on some jinbei/fisher tiger level shit

Highly doubt that, Jinbei is alone at the top

I don't think anyone could even scratch him in fishman karate. On top of that he is several times stronger than Koala by default(physically wise).
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>>101620629
>Will Kidd have full Magneto powers now?
Hopefully not.
I don't want to see Kid rip out your skeleton or bend your blood.
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>>101620999
I doubt Oda would go that far with it, though tempting perhaps. That's along the lines of Buggy splitting his own atoms.
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So, is Jesus the most overhyped character in OP? He was expected to be almost admiral level, and then he is oneshotted by Sabo.
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>>101610107
Maybe something time related?
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>>101621351
His armor is broken, but not quite one shotted yet, might be funny soon I suppose.
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>>101621351
Sabo just repelled his attack.

Let's wait for the actual fight.
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>>101615017
Green Bull is a bad translation of Green Bowl. He's eaten the 420-420 Fruit
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>looking around OP wiki
>Jesus Burgess birthday
>December 25
So Oda doesn't just choose random popular Mexican name for wrestler dude.
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>>101613767
the lightning logia was already said to be one of the 9 invincible fruits or whatever. I would say Blackbeard's logia is probably the most powerful as it can absorb pretty much everything including devil fruit powers. Although then again there really isn't anything faster than light. It could pretty much be a toss up between ligtning, light, and darkness.

everyone knows Whitebeard had the most powerful fruit there is though
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>>101615112
Dalton on Drum Island had the bull Zoan
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>>101621855
No.

>Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Bison
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>>101621778
Character birthdates are suggested by readers.
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>>101617649

>White eyes for multiple pages/panels (see chapters 298 and 299), That's like the KO standard for one piece
>Devil fruit powers "turning off" after you lose your consciouness is also a common theme in One piece. See Moria's shadows, Sugar's toys, Crocodile's rain prevention, etc. Same thing happened with Enel. (See Enel losing his god form instantly after being hit in chapter 298, See arc Maxim falling from the sky because Enel wasn't powering it up anymore in chapter 299)


>baww, he was faking it ;_;
Enel wouldn't risk Arc Maxim getting damaged, so it would be really out of character (See chapter 284 where he was extremely concerned after Sanji sabotaged Maxim)
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>>101621351
>blocks one attack
>one shotted

it was simply to show that Sabo is a badass up there with Ace. the fight hasn't even started yet
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>>101620598
You know how sad it is to be blocked by a shoulder with the arm in that position?
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>>101618068
Hey.
Shit Poster.
Get Banned.
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>>101621927
The guy is clearly trolling, he would have to be nigger in the head if he was remotely serious.
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>one piece is on a break this week
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>>101616695
Then why doesn't Dolfla get crushed after Fuji blocks his kick and then sheathes it?

He ate the fruit, and he can use the sword to mark targets. Also the sword can be a total non-factor, i.e. fucking meteorites.
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>>101622010

No way, Did I just waste 5 minutes looking for the correct chapters to prove someone else's point to a troll?

What an asshole
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Starting my reread of one piece today. Been a good 10 years since i've read the first few arcs. It will be glorious.
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>>101616620
>animefag
Blame Toei.
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>>101606836
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>>101613767
Lightning not only in shonen but also in other fiction rarely applies that rule,you can get burnt or whatever,but no where near the magnitude of where the temperature would imply.Besides,isn't that a "it can reach" and not by default property ? I also think those temperatures last for a fraction of a second. Or maybe Luffy's Devil fruit was using the abstract part of its power and just immune to the negative effects of electricity.
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>>101619042
>Wrecked the facilities
>Stold slaves with DFS
>Beat Jinbe in the glory days
>Only died because of bloodloss

>Still weak

Top kek
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So after they destroy the SMILE factory, they are headed to Zou where Law's crew finally get shown in years. Thoughts...even though it will probably happen at the end of this year.
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>One Punch King
>Violet's design saving her from same-face syndrome
>Chinjao
>Cavendish

I almost feel like watching next week,almost...
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>>101618356
Jora's fruit is broken as fuck. She needs to be placed higher.
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>>101623855
I haven't watched last week's episode, but from what I've heard the animation was decent, but the pacing was completely horrendous.

In any case, I'll watch anyway. I knew I'd like Chinjao from the moment he showed up, but I was surprised by how much I wound up liking Cavendish and One Punch King.
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>>101623791
We probably have around 20 more chapters on Dressrosa, arc should be finished by summer
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>>101621893
>check Crocodile's
>no birthday

What the hell man
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>>101624112
Ehhh, I don't know about that. That seems too short. There's still Doflamingo's own fight, plus the other executives to take down, plus shit with the Revolutionaries, probably a Law and/or Doflamingo flashback, shit with the Marines, and still more than just that. This arc is so crazy I can't imagine it getting wrapped up in just 20 chapters.
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>>101623855
When the fuck are they going to get to Barto? He's the only one I really want to see.
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>>101624201
Maybe Toei is being passive-agressive about Barto joining.
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>>101623979
Yeah it was the pacing,I know Wan Pisu's animation wasnt all that,but for Toei standards it was alright. That was a short ass chapter that Oda made though,so that is why it was so drawn out,hopefully there is budget where it matters,there aint no snow or constanting running,so Toei should do overall better than PH sans Smoker&Vergo Finale
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>>101623855
I really like her orange eyes. It's small detail, and yet make her design very different from any girl.
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>>101622463
It's not like the manga is any better in that regard. Kizaru takes any and every attack head on and gives no fucks unless your name is Rayleigh.
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>>101624855
They'd better do at least a mediocre job, as opposed to the 98% piece of shit that was Punk Hazard (the 2 good percent being parts of Vergo vs Smoker and Aokiji's appearance scene).

The place I'm expecting the anime to do a shit job is with the Colosseum fights. There's so much constant motion in those, so I'm expecting them to do a shitty job with it, just like they almost always do with huge group battles (like all of Marineford). It's a shame too, since expanding on the Colosseum fights would be a natural and non-bullshit way of stretching out the chapters into full episodes. We'll see how it goes though.
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>>101621949
The attack isn't the actual elbow it's the shockwave that erupts from it. In Japanese the attack is named Hado Elbow, meaning that Burgess can shoot Hadokens from his elbow. Sabo basically just used the shield haki that the admirals used at the war to block the shockwave and counter attacked with what appears to be some sort of infecting haki that can break things. The other explanation for the clash is that when Sabo attacked with Dragon Claw, Burgess activated his own Armament to dampen the blow but was ultimately beaten in Armament level letting Sabo crush his armor.

Either way, I don't think Sabo could block a direct (non-projectile) attack from Burgess.
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>>101625034
>It's a shame too, since expanding on the Colosseum fights would be a natural and non-bullshit way of stretching out the chapters into full episodes.
That's a good opportunity indeed, but I expect characters standing still and staring at each other for a while as opposed to actual fighting.
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>>101625466
Yep, that's exactly my fear. Standing and staring at each other, plus multiple shots of the same action scene that consists of nothing but a couple of poorly drawn people unconvincingly hitting each other's swords repeatedly to no effect.
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When will Kin'emon join the Strawhats?
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>>101605836
He's gonna have the global time manipulation fruit.
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>>101626406
After Bartolomeo joins
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>>101626406
After Perona
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Why doesn't anybody die in One Piece? It kills the suspense when you know everybody will come out of the arc alive.
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>>101626556
Sanji pretty much died 5 chapters ago.

No way he can survive against Big Mom's crew being that weak.
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>>101626406
After Jewelry
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>>101626556
Well, Ace, Whitebeard and Sabo have all died. Though Sabo's death was in a flashback so I guess that doesn't count
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>>101626618
Don't worry, I'm sure he's gotten really good at running after the timeskip
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>>101626556
Because Oda's grandma told him to not make people die in his manga.
I'm not kidding.
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Imagine the strawhats had way more members and their own division armies

Who would be the leaders
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>>101626653
It's One Piece, you can be chopped up, shot, and blown up as long as it's not a flashback. But, if it's a flashback everything can kill you.
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>>101626833
The monster trio of Luffy, Zoro and Bartolomeo
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>>101625952
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/579488
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>>101626833
Sanji - Intel division
Zoro - Swordsmen army
Bart - Fan club
Usopp - 10,000 followers army
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>>101627098
Hey whaddayaknow, it's on youtube too, easier to embed (though much lower quality than just vectored):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_iX_ySdEYA
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>>101624160
September fifth according to the wiki, but the source fucks up and refers to a SBS that only mentions the age and height of the Shichibukai. The real source might be elsewhere.
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It's time
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>>101627624
I swear that wasn't there when I looked earlier. Wonder why Sept 5th specifically.

Well, I'm going through the SBS for fun anyway so if I see it I'll update the source.
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>>101628448
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>>101628448
Thank you, based Acid Head
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>>101627115
>Swordsmen army
Did you mean Wano Country?
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so pica is different that other logias because he fuses with the rock? don't other logias allow that? ceaser did it, and crocodile did it, I dont get why he seemed so special
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>>101631589
He's a paramecial, not a logia
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>>101623855
>preview for next week's episode up

Well we are officially going to have .75 chapter per episode pacing for the rest of Dressrosa.
This will be the worst the anime has ever been, I'm so sorry everyone.
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>>101631664
how, he is made out of rock, he can suck it in
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>>101632612
Because he's not turning into rock. He's merging with existing material instead of turning himself into it. Logia users ARE their element, whereas Paramecia users are humans that can do something with it instead.
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I propose we ban One Piece threads on the days that there's no chapter/spoilers/episode.
I love One Piece but there's nothing but shitposting
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>>101618356
Where is Caesar on that list?
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>>101632986
That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. You're just arguing semantics at this point. How is luffy not rubber?

By your logic logias aren't their materials either since they're still conscious and elements can't be conscious
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>>101631589
Holy shit I would love it if Croc went full Flint Marko and became a giant sand behemoth. Preferably with crocodile features.

I don't want to hate on Croc or any of the other logias we've seen near their element bit it seems like next level logia mastery to gain a new form by absorbing outside materials. Caesar and Enel looked boss doing it.
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>>101633204
That guy was correct about Pica not being made of rock, but his description of Paramecia was a bit weird. Pica can't turn himself into rock, but he can control it, and coat himself in it.
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>>101616695
Can you imagine Zoro with three swords each with their own DF?
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>>101633204
Logias can turn into, control and create their element.

If they can't do any of those they are Paramecias, that's why Magellan who can't turn into poison and Luffy who can't control or create rubber are Paramecias.

Pica can't turn into stone as far as we know, and he changes the properties of stone, it's a Paramecia.
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>>101618356

Pretty sure Dellinger is weaker than Machvise
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>>101618356
Señor Pink is weaker than Dellinger and Baby 5. He is on the same level as Machvise as part of the weakest, that's why they used half the space the rest used in the Dofla Pirates organization chart.
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>>101623855
I hope Violet likes Sanji back so he can stop with the shitty ass retarded nosebleeds god damn
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Do you share your birthday with any One Piece character?
I share it with Vivi, 2.2
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>>101613767
I'm with you. I think the Goro Goro no Mi is the strongest fruit we've seen thus far. It's potential uses are just insane, and I think people greatly underestimate it based on it's ineffectiveness against Luffy and Enel's occasional misuse of his abilities.

Just so we're all clear, there's absolutely no way Luffy should have been able to beat him. Immune to electricity or not, there was still a thousand ways to kill Luffy with ease.
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>>101633590
What if Sanji never got to see Violet again since he's no longer on Dressrosa?
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>>101633642
Enel had a great fruit but he was a shitty user. That's the only reason he lost.
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>>101633611
I share it with Ivankov
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>>101626653
>>101626931
Except Sabo didn't die.
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>>101633644
They pull a Brock on Sanji and habe Violet like him but she has business on Dressrosa.
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Post TS Strawhats are at Marineford
What changes?
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>>101634254
They get killed.
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>>101634322

/thread
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>>101634254
Nothing, pre TS Luffy was enough to save Ace. It's not his fault Ace was a complete butthurt idiot.
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>>101634254

Probably not much, the Whitebeards already had plenty of strong dudes. Luffy didn't do THAT much fighting against the stronger marines, which his training would be most relevant. Zoro, Sanji and Franky would all be helpful against the stronger marines, the rest of the crew could help against the fodder. But ultimately, Whitebeard still probably sacrifices himself for Ace and Ace still goes full retard, regardless of whether three more strong fighters are there or not.
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>>101634254
If all the events unfold the same way (up to the point where ace is rescued) they have a better chance of getting Ace back to Whitebeard, maybe buying more time until Shanks showed up to shut the party down.
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>>101636801
Ace died because Akainu shit talked him. Having more people wouldn't change that.
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>>101633611
Mine is the same as Hawkins and Shyarly. I'm okay with this
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yfw Moriah, Crocodile, Boa Marigold, and Macro all celebrating their birthday together
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Holy shit why do I get manly tears when the strawhats are separated by Kuma
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>>101637981
Cause its good to see MC's get their shit slapped in and completely loose every once in a while. Instead of going full Gary Stu with 50 time-skips, random item power-ups and I GUESS I HAD THE POWER WITHIN ME ALL ALONG!
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>>101607030
>implying marco's haki cannot stop a bullet

pleb pls
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>>101623855
Cavendish looks so much more handsome than Violet here
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>>101623855
The upper Viola looks like she has downs or something.
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>>101633644
Violet is probably going to join
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>>101640063
I know this was a joke, but do people seriously think more people will join the crew? I can see them having allies like Jinbe and Kinemon, but a new crewmember would feel out of place considering how everyone already has a deep bond with each other and they have been part of the crew for over two years.
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>>101640202
The same could be said when they first entered the grand line. But as it is Viola is rather unlikely, her vision thing kind of overlaps a bit too much with Robin's. And throughout Dofalmingo's takeover she's the only former royal family member that isn't hated by the people, even the dwarves love her, probably because she didn't reveal their movements.
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>>101634254
>Luffy - Doesn't get wrecked by VAs as much and doesn't fight Mihawk.
>Zoro - Tries to fight off Mihawk and gets saved by Vista but not before getting shamed again and now has an X scar
>Nami - Mirages are useless against mid tier Obvsrvation. Gets targeted since she deals decent damage away from the frontlines. Dies to a VA attack.
Usopp - Fucking champion. Responsible for freeing Ace. Loses arm due to excessive use of reject.
Sanji - Takes out a bunch of the Giant Squad. Dies trying to fight the wrong VA.
Chopper - Goes Monster and gets targeted by the Admirals. Dies.
Robin - Saves Whitebeard from the Squardo attack. Feeds info to Division commanders by Sprouting lips on their shoulders. Lives by not taking a single step on the battlefield.
Franky - FUCKING HEAVY HITTER: Single-handedly fights off all the Pacifistas. Marine Fodder Morale is at an all time low due to him styling all over them.
Brook - Depending on how brave he gets he might die. His music and sword skill can handle soldiers up to but not including VA.

Ace- Still dies because he is a retarded shit and falls for Akainu's bait.

Hancock - Basically joins the Straw Hats during the war and loses her position for collusion with the enemy during a war. Amazon Lily gets destroyed. Margaret only survivor and joins.

Whitebeard - Still alive and on a warpath from Ace's death. Deaths left and right. Coby's speech is directed at Whitebeard and Shanks stops Whitebeard's attack on Coby.

War Over - Blackbeard steals Ace's fruit instead.
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>>101640464
>implying Sanji isn't VA level
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>>101640406
When they entered the GL they hadn't been together for much, let alone 2 years. And they still needed more people, but now they don't really.
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>>101640549
Did you forget him losing against Vergo?
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>>101640652
>2 years
>together
What the fuck are you reading?
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>>101640202
Nope. Luffy wanted 10 nakama. Even though that was near the start of the manga the whole Blackbeard and his 10 captains just reinforced that idea for most people. We have 8 people. Jinbe joining is fine because he already spent like 3 arcs with Luffy. He'll probably be the last.

Its fair to say that we can expect one more (not including Jinbe) and that person will join before him. The New World is just starting and if someone new joins it should be at the start and not in the middle.

Violet joining makes the most sense out of anyone this arc because its unlikely that she'll be able to stay on Dressrosa. The WG is in support of Doflamingo being a shit and they'll probably put up a bounty for her. Look at it this way, future Straw Hats ALWAYS are around Luffy when he defeats the main antagonist. Kinemon went off somewhere. Dwarves haven't really been important. Viola is with Luffy and Zoro. She's going to fight some of Doflamingo's subordinates inevitably. She also has a tragic backstory and she has experience as a pirate.

It's extremely likely she'll join and part of the reason there's so much focus on Rebecca is to draw attention away from that.
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>>101640549
The VAs tag team people. The second that a 2nd VA sneak attacks him, he's dead.
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>>101640718
Smoker lost against Vergo, and he's a VA, so Sanji is at his level. Take that tierfags.
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>>101640801
>Dies trying to fight the wrong VA
And there you have it.
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>>101640718
Sanji would have won if the fight prolonged
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>>101633797
>but he was a shitty user
He was actually really fuckin' great with it. He only lost to plot armor.
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>>101640733
Bad wording. I mean they've known each other for over two years.
>>101640764
Jinbe won't join, at least not as a regular member. Violet has even less chances. That number was an estimation, it's not like he'll have exactly 10. Oda probably wanted something around that number, and now they are 9, which is pretty close.
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>>101640952
His speed sucked
Pre gears Luffy kept up with him, a VA would destroy him
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>>101640952
That wasn't plot armor. And Enel would have killed everyone if he wasn't a shitty user.
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>>101640549
>implying 'levels' exist

this shit needs to stop
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>>101641016
He did "kill" everyone.
Which in non flashback OP that means knocked out.
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>>101641010
>his speed sucked
Dude, what? He teleported all over the island pretty much instantaneously.
Then Foxy hit him with a noro noro right before his fight with Luffy.
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>>101641010
Depends on what VA. Even if they manage to keep up with him, Enel's got MASSIVE amounts of destructive power, You gotta be tough to withstand his 100,000,000 million volt attacks
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>>101611573
I swear to god if Fujitora turns into a mass of gravitons or some shit
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>>101641165
Nothing some good ole CoA can't fix
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>>101641254
That wouldnt stop him from zapping your shit
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>>101641254
I remember when they explained CoA at first I thought it was very restricted and stupid, but it was a really good addition to One Piece powerlevels. It makes everything more balanced.
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>>101641254
CoA doesn't nullify DF attacks, it just boosts your defense.
Zero chance it'd boost it to god mode.
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>>101641330
Except it would. It probably makes you a non-conductor.
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>>101641367
In the Luffy vs Caesar fight Luffy's CoA kept him from getting "petrified"
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>>101641407
Uh, no. His hands, the only parts he exposed to the gas, got petrified.
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>>101618283
To be fair the shit you can do with DFs doesn't even compare to the stuff you can do with Nen.

As times and times shown your imagination is the limit, even if you have to make harsh rules and overcompensate, if you don't have talent for the desired wizardry.
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>>101641498
Smoker could do everything Morel has done and more easily.
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>>101641577
>>101618283
>>101641498
Who's Morel?
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>>101641698
hunter x hunter smoke nen user
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Kizaru is so fucking OP
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>One Piece is on break next week.
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>>101610107
Plasma.
Admirals are now space themed
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>>101640890
Sanji had his leg broken with one kick, after Sanji landed 2 direct with Diable Jambe on Vergo's FACE. Sanji himself said that he would have been in trouble if the fight had gone on any longer.
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So who's the fastest dude in OP?
Kizaru?
Enel?
Foxy when he learns to reverse his noro noro?
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>>101641943
"plasma" is kinda vague though. Fire and lightning are already kinds of plasma
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>>101642000
Kiiiiiiiiiizaruuuu
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>>101642000
Toss up between Kuma and Kizaru. Both supposedly can move at the speed of light.

Though that has more to do with moving from point A to point B. In terms of reaction speed and other things like that, who knows.
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>>101642207
It's been shown that Kizaru doesn't actually go anywhere near the speed of light, though.
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Dofla crew fruits are so fucking OP.

What's stopping Sugar from taking control of the world by making everyone a toy slave?

What's stopping Pica from merging with Red Line itself and becoming omnipotent?
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>>101641960
cracked... not broken
the difference
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>>101642207
Well as an Admiral Kizaru is probably a master of CoO haki, so he probably has the edge in reaction speed.

>>101642254
Neither does Kuma. Zoro dodged his barrage of paw-projectiles with ease.
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>>101642326
>paw-projectiles
Which are, as it turns out, not him.
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>>101642430
If he can't push the air at the speed of light how would he manage to push his own huge body any faster
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>>101610107
I want it to be time based, but not complicated shit like Jojo. It would fit with the space/time theme.
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>>101642278
If you say so.

Still remains that Sanji would have only kept getting his ass kicked if that fight had continued.
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>>101642485
>Devil Fruits
>Logic
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>>101642526
Oh alright so whatever you say is true is true because devil fruits don't follow logic. Cool argument, I think I'll stop bothering with it now.


Oh but I'd just like to say that Luffys fruit is probably gonna give him the power to control time next chapter because devil fruits don't follow logic.
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>>101642485
If him pushing other people is anything to go by, it takes him about three days to get pretty much anywhere.
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>zoro 1v1's an admiral and even gets him on the defensive without a scratch
>sanji gets rekt by a VA-tier character who got one-shot by law
lel
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>>101642663
>zoro 1v1's an admiral and even gets him on the defensive without a scratch
Except that didn't happen. Sanji did get humiliated.
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>>101641577
Nah, while alot of it could be done more easily by Smoker, since DFs incorperate their powers as toll free natural abilities, instead of being glorified magic with a harsh mana bar, the moves Smoker uses, are always connected to or coming from his body, while Morel can send out puppets miles away and even give them rudimental programming.
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So.
Smoker's fruit is objectively a downgrade compared to Caesar's, right? Since his is "gas," and smoke is a gas, CC can do everything Smoker can but doesn't because smoke is fucking useless.

Like Ace vs Akainu.
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>>101640963
He wanted at least 10 people. Oda isn't the kind of guy to forget. He generally plans things in advance, especially the crew. I can't imagine Jinbe not joining, especially since his character has been mentioned as early as Arlong Park.

Also they've only been with Brook for probably less than 2 weeks in real time.
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>>101642889
Fuck, I hope Jinbe won't join. He fits much better as one of Luffys countless allies that will aid him in the final battle.

I mean, come on, He's ATLEAST as strong as Luffy.
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>>101607062
Then again, it's Garp.
I don't think theres anything Garp can't smack down.
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>>101643049
Except Luffy :^)
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>>101643024
I would say roughly on par with Luffy on dry land. And of course underwater, Jinbe's practically unbeatable. He's one of the most useful people to have with you when you're out at sea.
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>>101642844
I don't remember exactly if CC could constrict you with his gas like Smoker but even if, smoke is just burned shit floating through the air, while CC could apperently turn into any sort of gas he desired.

So yes.
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>>101640764
>implying Jinbei isn't going to die before he can join
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>>101643440
He can probably swim in ice.
That has to count for something.
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>Everyone in Doflamingo pirate crew has a DF power
>One of them falls in the water
>No one can swim
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>>101643024
At this point in the story I think everyone fits more as an ally than as a crewmember.
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>>101643024
>He's ATLEAST as strong as Luffy

I'm pretty sure that's why Oda didn't have him join right there. He probably won't join until the monster trio is stronger than him.
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>>101643520
Gladius doesn't seem to have a fruit.
Lao G hasn't used it yet
Machvise may not have one
Dellinger too
Vergo didn't have one
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>>101643644
Gladius has the hair-hair no mi.
Lao G has some sort of time power.
Machvise has the float-float no mi.
Delinger has the sexy no jutsu.
Vergo was a nigger.
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>>101643466
Prefect counter to Aokiji.
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>>101643604
I think Jimbe's probably gonna at least top Sanji when he joins.
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>>101643440
He swims in pussy, who cares.

Anyway, what are your thoughts, is this guy really such a badass in diapers or is he just a hack who gets praised for everything, like a certain someone, I wont mention because of funney maymays.
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>>101643695
>Machvise has the float-float no mi.
Time has done bad things to Shiki.
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Luffy's not gonna get anymore crew members. He's going to build the alliance and add new crews to it. Barto's fan club, Cavendish's crew, Chinjao's army, all the Gladiators forming their own crew lead by the soldier after turned human, aka Rebecca's dad
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>>101643695
>Vergo was a nigger

It must have been a devils curse afterall. How could he be a nigger otherwise
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>>101643771
Don't pretend Oda hasn't made nearly identical fruits before.
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>>101628448

source ?
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>>101643771
>Shiki died at the end of Strong World
>Machvise got his fruit
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>>101643833
It would be the third one with the same effect. The Kilo Kilo is more similar.

And I don't think any fruits have been more similar than Fuwa Fuwa and Kilo Kilo
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>>101643890
Those two aren't the same at all, though.
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>>101643520
>Implying DF couldn't pull them out with his strings.
>Implying they need to sail at sea when they own an island.
>Implying they don't just fly everywhere thanks to Buffalo and DF's String power.
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>>101643917
I know, but the outcome is pretty similar.
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It was retarded of Oda to waste Shiki on a non canon movie that was before timeskip
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Why doesn't DD just learn geppo?
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>>101643981
Nah Shiki negated gravity but things hold onto their mass.

Miss Valentine could only manipulate herself and she was lite as a feather while in air.
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>>101644184
Using her parasol while controling her weight she could effectively levitate. Even if she talks about Kilos, I doubt her mass changes, it's probably just weight, otherwise she was an idiot for wasting her power like that.
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>>101644307
Even if you weigh as much as a feather you're not immune to gravity, she'd be completely dependent on updrafts to stay airborne for any extended period of time.
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>>101644407
She could weigh less than air and she'd float up to a certain level at a certain speed depending on her weight
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>>101644407
She doesn't need much wind if she weighs practically nothing. And she still has her strength so she could stay in the air by moving her hands or something.
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>>101644470
Hmm, that's true.
tl;dr she was dumb
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>>101644470
She could only weigh between 1 and 1000 kilos.

So yes, she could weigh less than 1.1 or < kilos of air.
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>>101644307
Nah she was directly manipulating her mass and in that fashion her density, which is the reason why she doesn't fucking die on impact.

All the more you're right and Oda probably didn't think of the fact, that what protects her from fall damage, should also be used as extremly effective defense in general.
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Was kizaru confirmed still being an admiral after the timeskip? Dont doubt hes still in a high as fuck postion since hes hax but i think we need an orange admiral, maybe one of the former va's since green bull and gravity guy are newcomers.
Also the sword has the df ability, i think the anime made this pretty clear.
Fucking toei ruined his first appearance and the zoro foreshadowing as well as the intro was shit
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>>101644789
I'm pretty sure he was.
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>>101644789
Type like a human being please. The anime means jackshit and it's not a good confirmation.
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>>101644585
That was probably only because she sucked with her power though. Just as Law post TS could make a 10x bigger room than Law pre TS.
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>>101613570
What if he didn't have his fruit yet or started liking Luffy after the war?
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>>101644184
Speaking of Miss Valentine, did Mr 5 have one of the strongest devil fruits? I mean if he wasn't a complete fuck and actually had the skill to master it there is nothing that says he wouldn't be able to create massive explosions and maybe even nukes.
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>>101645269
Probably would've been comparable to WB's fruit, if not a bit behind it.
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>>101645269
I think most people would agree, that his fruit was one of the biggests wastes in OP history.
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>>101645269
I hope he reappears or Oda makes a similar fruit. Maybe Green Bull has the Nuclear Nuclear Fruit or something.
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>>101633611
I share it was Basil Hawkins and Shyarly, 9.9
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>>101645394
>haki nuclear fist punches, or
>lol fling my boogers at people
The choice was obvious.
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>>101637415
based 9.9 brother
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>>101645335
>Mr. 5 has the power of the destructive Bomu Bomu no Mi, a Paramecia Devil Fruit which allows him to turn any part of his body into a bomb without harming himself and it renders all explosive based attacks useless against him. He can make any part of his body, even his entire body, explode, but he mainly uses boogers from his nose
>but he mainly uses boogers from his nose
>boogers

Why..?
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>>101645636
because japanese humour

same reason why kinemon could speak with his farts
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>>101642256
He merges with the red line, the red line is in sea water, he drowns.
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>>101645335
So what does the G stand for in Lao G? Any guesses as to the word behind him in this panel? I think it might have something to do with ability.
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>>101645857
He doesn't need an ability. He's just one of those fuckstrong characters.
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>>101645857
>Lao G
>Low G
>Low gravity
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>>101645857
Goal backwards, maybe he has some vector-y fruit, though not sure how that has to do with goals either.
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>>101645946
Even if he doesn't have an devil fruit he might still have an "ability." I hope he's just a strong fighter.
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>>101645269
A ton of the paramecia are fucking bullshit. They have the highest potential to wreck shit out of all the fruit. It's just a difference between giving it to a joke character or an actually competent man.

Give the Doku Doku no Mi to Wapol and you probably have him making "tummy ache" bombs and "generic poison fist". Magellen managed to fucking make giant hydras out of pure acid and a death incarnate sauce.

I like to think that the guy who had the gura gura before Whitebeard thought he was hot shit because he made really small scale earthquakes.
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>>101646192
Case in point: DF has the fucking STRING fruit, the most seemingly innocuous fruit imaginable.
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>>101646283
Well to be fair just saying "string fruit" doesn't really entail the whole mind/body-controlling aspect of the fruit. Thats more of a bonus power than just donflamingo being clever.
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Paramecia bullshit because your working with vague concepts taken to extremes like JoJo.

>Flare fruit
>I turn into fire
>Gorilla fruit
>I turn into a gorilla
>Quake fruit
>I can make tremors out of thin air and "quake" people's faces off because you never said I couldn't
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>>101646409
>mind control
No, he just has body control. Via strings.
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>>101646426
Actually the quakes emanated from the user's hands.
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>>101644789
>Also the sword has the df ability, i think the anime made this pretty clear.
>the anime made this pretty clear.
This is an extremely fast way to completely invalidate everything you say.

Besides, we've been over this a million times--how the fuck would an inanimate object be able to control a paramecia power? The only explanation that anyone could come up with was that it was constantly activated but controlled by a seastone scabbard, but Fujitora can use his power whether it's fully in or not. It's 99% likely that he just channels his power through his sword. We've seen people do that type of shit before (like Foxy).
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>>101646523
Yeah but tremors tho
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>>101646573
>please respond
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Bellett is best girl
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>>101646573
His eyes have the DF power.
That's why they're white.
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>>101646573
U got a point there
But i dont think it would be too hard for oda to explain

Maybe vegapunk just came up with some new technology to keep up with '2 badass for one df'-blackbeard

"Here, eat this df that can control > insert some kind of power I.e. earth <, also your sword ate a df too and u can manipulate gravity now.
Be creative, make some giant holes in the ground or let some comets fall from the sky"
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>>101647330
>Fujitora's sword really does have the gravity fruit
>Because Fujitora already ate the blind blind fruit
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>>101623855
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_UnYO_yQJg

Looks like the rumor about 3/4 chapter pacing might be true...
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>>101647964
>next episode: NOTHING HAPPENS
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>>101616710
He wasn't beta at all back then
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I see a lot of people suggesting that the final battle would consist of all of Luffy's allies fighting in some huge war but isn't the end at Raftel? How are all these people just going to show up there? I figure either this big battle happens and then the final battle is like SH vs BB crew on Raftel or Raftel is first and then the big war happens where Luffy has just gotten One Piece and fights the last big fight as Pirate King. What do you all think?
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>>101648838
Raftel comes before the final war. If the One Piece is related to The Rio Poneglyph then the must follow the clues to get there.
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>>101649088
>>101648838
The big war isn't the final battle, there should be a big war, and after than they go to Raftel and find BB/Akainu/Gorosei/someone not yet introduced and we have a "smaller" scale arc. Luffy's allies should be in the war.
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>>101640718
Vergo was Doflamingo's right hand man he wasn't an ordinary Vice Admiral.
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>>101633611
I share it with Cabaji(that juggler 1st mate of Buggy's crew) and Rakuyo(Some forgettable captain of one of Whitebeard's divisions).

Eh.
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>>101626620
After Ace
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Anyone else want to indulge in fantasy?

I really want a 2.5D metroid platformer where you can play as all the Straw Hats in CUH-RAY-ZEE fashion.

It would play like MvC3 and would have the assist attacks where you can switch characters mid combo.

After you beat the game you unlock the online vs mode.
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>>101645576
September 9 is best birthday.
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>>101649785
I just want a One Piece pinball where the ball is Chopper defense point.
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>>101649785
I want a 3D fighting game like the Naruto games with a bigass roster. They could start PTS only.
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Ok /a/, which was the first scene that made you cry like a little bitch
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Fujitoras sword is the source of the devil fruit. Inanimate objects can absorb devil fruits, atleast we've seen them absorb Zoans e.g Frankfurt, and the alpaca cannon, why not paramecia?

We know inanimate objects can have "souls" e.g the cursed blades or Klabautermann.

That being said, a completely random suggestion that is most likely not possible, but it being one piece, has a chance.

Would be quite fun to see Thousand Sunny living up to it's name with the Mera Mera fruit.
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>>101650416
Thinking about a One Piece game like Ultimate Ninja where I could fight on the frozen battlefield of Marineford makes me aroused. Also fighting on Punk Hazard with dragons flying about and knocking people over the lake into the freezing/burning area.

A One Piece fighter would have the best stages. Even better if (really predictable) stage hazards were allowed.
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>>101650885
I think it would be possible, but I don't think that's the case.
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>>101650952
The best thing is OP is so popular that someday it's due to happen.
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>>101650952
The idea of a One Piece MMO makes me Diamond. Although. Pulling it off would be pretty hard even by Japans standards. Making your own pirate crew and roaming the seas. Create your own flag.
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>>101615112
if it's a zoan, it had better be a mythical zoan or it'll be a let down
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>>101652726
The problem with a Zoan is that it breaks the theme, light and gravity are related.
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>>101652726
Anon, stop it. You don't need a bloodline limit in OP to be strong. That's the whole point.
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>>101651758
I would love a OP RPG, MMOs are generally shit, so it better be single player.
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>>101616695
what chapter does zoro fight fuji tv again?
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>>101650567
the first flashback of the crew, except luffy's since technically his flashback was when he met sabo and ace. I dont think I have ever not cried at their past, chopper's almost gave me a heart attack
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>>101650567
Neved shed tears, but I've been close to a lot of times.
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>>101622095
Don't regret it when you fight for and present the truth.

It will always help out someone.
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>>101653550
Wait, he ACTUALLY fell for that?
Pfffffhahahaha wow. I hadn't kept up with the thread.
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If I remember correctly some of you said that we can finally expect some quality from dressrosa arc by toei?
Well the amount of QUALITY is actually off the charts this time and I dont think if Fujis ability introduction could be more underwhelming.
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>>101653699
I thought they were going to do a joke about the "sheathing your sword" trope.
But then at the last minute (and I mean minute, that shit went on for a WHILE) they tried to pull it off as serious.
Wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry.
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>>101605836
>purple is the gravity color
Excuse me, but what the fuck? since when do forces have colors? Wouldn't 'Black' be more appropriate? You know, like black hole.

Overall, a pretty dumb idea and observation.
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>>101653812
Did you even read OP or did you stop in the middle and came post that shit?
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So we know Marco and Drakes fruits are considered Rare Zoans.

What fruits are considered rare for Paramicia and Logia?
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>>101645857
G force
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>>101654078
>Paramecia
I suppose ones like the gura gura
>Logia
everyone?
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>>101654078
Logias are rare on their own.
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>>101654078
Blackbeards Logia
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>>101652883
I don't want it to be a zoan, but what if he's a starfish
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>>101653895
Stopped in the middle
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>>101652883
Cockroach Zoan.
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Already been done.
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>>101653393
You're not a human being if you haven't shed manly tears for Merry's funeral
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>>101654078
Paramecia are simply wild cards, can't really define any of them in terms of even classifying them together to distinguish rarity. Logia's by themselves are probably fairly rare relative to the entire world, but as we're following the narration we'll pretty much get to see all of them.
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>>101654573
That's the closest, but no tears.
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>>101654615
I wonder if whenever we see Vegapunk we'll get to know more about fruits, like where they grow, how they grow, if they are limited, and if there really are demons in them.
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Zoans are objectively the worst fruit type
Prove me wrong
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>>101654778
Dinosaurs
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>>101654821
Got one shotted by kizaru.
Enjoy not having arms.
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>>101654573
>nami's breaking point
>hiluluk's sacrifice
>merry's funeral
>chopper when he brought the mushroom to hiluluk and realized it wasn't the cure

chopper's entire history made me cry like a bitch.
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>>101654778
They are over-all pretty weak except if you are already strong as fuck. It only adds to your abilities that much more.

Paramecia's are generally the weakest but can be absurd dependent on the user.

It really depends on the person I suppose.
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>>101654862
Sengoku
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>>101626931
or you can fall down the stairs
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>>101650567

Drum island. I get emotional while reading manga and Drum Island shook me up. Other events include Ussop vs. Luffy (almost), Robin's flashback, Merry getting sunken, Ace/Whitebeard dying. Brook's and Franky's flashbacks were pretty close too.
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>>101654926
Turned into a shiny fat dude that accomplished nothing.
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Best song coming through
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFp6KfbTK-Y
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>>101654907

>It really depends on the person I suppose.

Every devil fruit depends on the users creativity.
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>>101605836
Mythical Zoan Minotaur model?
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>>101654778
They are definitely gonna make for some fancy fodder by the time we get to the Kaido arc.
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>>101654778

Marco's is pretty cool.
BB has a cerberus zoan.
Chimera zoan.
Hydra zoan.
Typhon zoan.
Any Greek myth zoan.
Chameleon zoan (not only do they turn invisible, but they also can climb walls and have a kickass tongue).
This shit better happen Oda.
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>>101654778
Any devil fruit is only as strong as the user.
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>>101650567
I ended up rereading Ace and Luffy's backstory and Ace's questions about deserving to live get each time.
>"You want me to live?"
>"You need me?"
That hits home to me as a guy who knows that, if he hadn't been born, his single mother could have had a much better life.
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>>101655248
>Can create Labyriths.
>OP is the prequel to Magi.
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>>101656080
Sounds rough, I hope you and your family are having a good life now.
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>>101653812
>> not into Japan culture
Also, green is either plants or time.
It would make sense that it was time, provided that the other two are light and gravity.
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>>101656561
Show me 3 series or 1 REALLY influential series where green is used for time. I don't associate green with time at all.
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>>101654778
I hope you aren't including Mythical Zoans, which have been shown to be some of the most powerful fruits (even if we've only really seen two).
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>>101657387
Sengoku wasn't really even that strong.
Marco wasn't strong, just had a super useful healing ability.
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>>101657527
We never really saw Sengoku in an actual fight for reference, but the couple times he did show his power he was quite powerful and considering he had the highest rank in the Navy (which seems to be based somewhat off of strength) I'd say he's probably one of the more powerful characters in One Piece.

And Marco kicked an Admiral to the side. The guy is strong. Now whether he's using natural strength and Haki to back up his power is kinda unknown, but he's still one of the most powerful pirates we've seen.
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>>101640464
Other than my Sanjifag autism, sounds good except for one major factor: Robin wouldn't be completely safe.

She's been wanted since she was 9 and has the third highest bounty of the SHs, and for good reasons. In addition to her incredible reconnaissance prowess and her imfamous history and reputation, she's the last remaining person capable of reading the Poneglyphs and the only non-GW related person to have any idea of the Void Century.

Are seriously implying that Robin would leave Marineford without taking a single hit? She's like Kill Priority No. 4, next to Ace, WB, and Luffy respectively. They'd probably send half of their VAs, whatever Shichibukai are available, and at least one Admiral to get her. Hell, Sengoku might even go after her himself. Unless she's doing all this from 25 nautical miles away or guarded by the majority of WB's best men, there ain't no goddamn way she'll leave there in one piece.

And yes, that pun was intentional.
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>>101633611
With Bepo.
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>>101657707
Marco is a strong dude, that much is clear.
But Oda himself has said that his DF is, offensively, useless. The flames are MaGiCaL HeAlIng flames that can't hurt people.
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>>101658060
If you're creative enough you could use that DF offensively.

Ever tried punching someone straight in the fact full force? You're gonna break your hand. With his healing power he wouldn't have to worry about things like that. Which might be why he's so physically strong.
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>>101658212
>Ever tried punching someone straight in the fact full force? You're gonna break your hand
Not in the OP universe.
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>>101658212
>punching someone straight in the fact
So, he's shitposting so hard it physically hurts them?
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>>101658212
You mean like Luffy against Bellamy?
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>>101658212
>fact
I mean face. In the face. How do you even punch someone in their fact?
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>>101658409
Logic logic no mi.
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>>101616695
Well, then the fruit is either a zoan or they've found a way to make non-zoans into weapons, which doesn't sound right.
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>>101618356
0 evidence that Vergo is stronger than the Dressrosa 3.
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>>101658933
More probable since he seemed to be a good friend of Doffy's. He was his most trusted subordinate, that's why he was sent to the Navy.
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>>101645857
>"Jii" can mean "old man" in japanese (Ojii-san)

"Old Man Lao", I guess?
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>>101659012
[citation needed]
Maybe, but that's like saying Trebol's is the strongest because he gets so close to Doffy when he speaks. Silly because we know it's more his personality than it is his power level and the things you mentioned might have more to do with Vergo's personality than his power level as well.
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>>101633611
Manboshi
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>>101633611
>8.23
>no character has this birthday

Fuck you, Oda. Now I'm sad.
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>>101633611
March 14
Share it with Smoker
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...has the shipoffools guy shit up this thread yet?
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>>101657893
You know what, I completely forgot about Robin's past so yeah, I agree with what you said. Her clones would be pretty effective at eluding capture but she would get lit up pretty badly.

I blame my forgetfulness on Oda doing nothing with her past in the story outside of EL. Everywhere the strawhats go they should have a government tail since Robin is one of THE MOST wanted beings in One Piece. She should get a crazy high bounty even higher than Luffy's if the government is so serious about the Void History.
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>>101640464
Hmmm...
Losing Nami, Sanji and Chopper but gaining Hancock and Margaret

Not a bad line-up
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>>101633611
X Drake
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What would be some of the most OP devil fruits?

be reasonable nothing like "kill kill fruit" where whoever you touch dies.

How OP would a devil fruit be that turns its user into a Water Logia user?
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>>101659217
I think that's it:
>La(Ojii)-san

>>101658933
He may not be stronger but they share the same rank.
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>>101660535
>become water logia
>die
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>>101660535
Devil Fruit users are only affected by standing water, I don't know how you'd immobilize them with that.
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>>101660857
Stand up, become water.
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>>101660535
when will you learn
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>>101650885
1. it has to be a zoan
2. its most likely him using the sword to channel his abilities
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>>101660535
Kill kill fruit could be blocked by haki anyway. So as long as your haki is stronger than the user, his fruti is completely useless
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>>101660967
>it has to be a zoan
Have they ever stated this?
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>>101661015
No, but think about it. An inanimate object needs consciousness in order to use its abilities. Zoans are the only fruits that can give an inanimate object thought. This is why many of the zoan weapons have kind of done their own thing because they think for themselves. How would a paramecia object think to activate itself?
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>>101661015
People assumed that since they don't know any other way to turn the power on/off. But a seastone sheath to turn on/off and haki to redirect could be possible, I think. Sadly, I'm not Vegapunk and can't test my theory
>you will never be a scientist working for the WG in the devil fruits division
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>>101661012
Can haki block ~ANYTHING~?
If you haki is strong enough, can you block all the water if you fall into it?
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>>101661092
Maybe a person's haki can activate it. I'm talking CoC here. It would make sense. Maybe even CoA alone.
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>>101661199
I don't think so, but haki blocking devil fruits powers is a fact
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>>101661199
That wouldn't work, the water effect affects the user from inside, even if the solidify their skin, they are still "possesed".
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>>101661254
>>101661277
Then by merit haki cannot block everything just by being stronk as fuark
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>>101661319
Where did I say that haki can block everything?
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>>101661319
no shit, haki wouldn't protect you from a strong as fuck attack, case in point vergo. not only that but it wouldn't protect you from ceasar's gas
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>>101661406
>smothered by magma
>die regardless of haki
Not sure why people see it as the be all end all equalizer.
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>>101661452
It allows some people to latch onto some form of unsaid powerlevel type shit.
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>>101661452
It helps either way. And still it's more useful when you need to attack.
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>>101660923
I forgot that we have had a non hardening haki punch PTS.
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Guys it Robins birthday today, pay your respects like I have!
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>>101661757
They're really better that way.
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>>101661841
Are you racist?
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>>101662301
Yes, why?
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I find it a little difficult to believe he would even dare go to the new world yet.
Even with special Garp haki training I think the power gap is too large.

I will continue to hold this belief until I see him actually beat someone.
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>>101662479
The majority of the new world really isn't that tough, though. There are a few really strong dudes in it, sure, but unless you run into a big bad the normal new world affairs are pretty much the same as the end of paradise.
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>>101661824
Looks cute, anon.
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>>101662479
He wants to persue luffy, not in the way garp pursued roger, but more as a measure of his own growth. I don't think he is strong enough to go on his own, but he will probably appear on the heels of a VA or with other captains (assuming that part of the movie was cannon).
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>>101662657
>he will probably appear on the heels of a VA
Before PH i figured he'd be with Smoker now but obviously that's not the case.

Which VA best suits him?
Momonga always seemed cool. He'd be my guess.
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>>101662838
Garp may have passed them off to tsuru

I honestly don't know, for the most part a large majority of the VA's personalities haven't been fully fleshed out in the manga. Vergo wasn't at Marineford, so who knows how many there are that we haven't seen
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>>101662838
honestly, I'd like to see what Cancer can do
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>>101663210
>>101662838
Isn't Coby supposed to be a Captain now?
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>>101660576

Wait, how was he not injured by that?
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>>101663260
Yes, but we're talking about how a captain couldn't really handle his shit against the super rookies by himself
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>>101663307
Haki.
Don't question it.
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>>101663260
He is but I don't know if they'd let someone who's just a captain run around alone in the NW.
Smoker was dissatisfied with his rank of captain way back at alabasta.

Rank seems to equal freedom in the marines, at least up to VA.
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>>101663307
their haki was probably shitty or they rushed it
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>>101663362
Yeah that sounds like a good argument too, but then again, admirals can't do shit with out approval, that's why Garp kept turning it down
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>>101663535
I dunno, Aokiji just kinda did whatever the hell he wanted.
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>>101663617
he was sengoku's favourite and he still got chastized for bicycling off that one time.
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>>101660535
I've got an idea of how a Water Logia could work.

The water that makes up their body is different than natural water. It doesn't immobilize DF users, meaning they're safe in terms of the DF curse. But you can still drown in it, 'cause it's still fucking water.

You can control and manipulate the water around you, but actually touching it will weaken you. There is, however, a method of filtering the water so that it becomes DF user safe. But it is time-consuming and impractical during battle

In addition to controlling water flow, you can alter the temperature, density and pressure of both the water your body is composed of and the water surrounding you at will. For example, you can make a boiling water saber that, with every slash, hits with the same effect of that diving attack Kuroobi did to Sanji way back when.

Christ, I've could've used the time I used typing this to do something productive. I hope you faggots like this.
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>>101663745
Nah, that's just silly.
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>>101663617
And that's why he didn't get the Fleet position.
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>>101663745
Fucking complicated fanfic shit

Devil fruits are simple. That's why they're so popular.
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>>101663786
he didn't get fleet postion because the others wanted someone who was iron willed and more agressive. there must have been equal support amoung the upper echelon between akainu and aokiji or they wouldn't have fought for it.
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>>101663786
He didn't get the fleet position because the Gorosei wanted Akainu, who they knew would make a stand in the new world and finally try to destroy piracy.
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>>101663745
goddamn it, go back to ship of fools
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SHIRO!
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>>101663786
More like why he didn't get the Feet position.
Get it.
Cause Akainu.
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>>101664046
>>101664013
>>101663786
He didn't get the position because he Akainu beat him in a 10 days long fight.
Everything else is just the reason the fight had to happen.
Jeez.
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>>101663988
What if you just cut out everything but the first part? Would that be an improvement?
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>>101664108
>Everything else is just the reason the fight
No shit, bro. Had upper mangement supported Aokiji, there wouldn't have been a fight. Cause and effect.
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>>101664120
Delete 2nd paragraph. User can't can't function in water they didn't create themselves. Everything else is fine.
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>>101626618
sanji won't die because big mom will be the new crew member
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>>101664120
No, it wouldn't be a Logia then. and in Waterworld, he'd have infinite ammo. Too OP for OP
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>>101664290
>>101664120
So they're, like, a squirtle that can't swim.
That kinda makes sense, but as a paramecia instead of logia.
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>>101664355
if that's how it's going to be, why not just make it the cum cum no mi
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>>101664412
We already have Trebol.
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>>101664449
looks like >>101664120 got his wish then....
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>>101664332

I still can't get over the fact someone has fucked big mom. That raises the question of what giant monstrous bastard put it in that fucking diabetic behemoth
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>>101664575
She probably just ingests genetic material after eating someone and fertilizes herself.
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>>101664575
Blackbeard
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>>101664575
i'm sure she's using mama in a figurative manner, like whitebeard's crew call him their father.

that being said, i would totally fuck big mom if it meant i got to hang out with mr. pekoms
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>>101664575
>I still can't get over the fact someone has fucked big mom.

brotip : Dofla made Cesar feed her the candy that made her an addict and caused her gigantism (and increased appetite). That's why she's right now after Cesar.

She isn't monstrous in her normal state.
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>>101613767
>lightning is light

Lightning = electrons
Light = photons

Light travels at 299,792,458 m/s
Lightning travels at 61,100 m/s

Enel is ~4,900 times slower than Kizaru.

I cannot believe that I was the first person to point out that lightning isn't made of light.
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>>101664761

All Ceaser said he did was steal some funding for his experiments. I don't think Big Mom would be getting candy from Doflamingo as tribute since it's said his biggest business partner is Kaido. Of course that doesn't entirely rule out Big Mom never fucking turning down candy regardless.

>>101664703
Also possible but I don't think Big Mom has Whitebeards sense of comradeship since she ate a crewmate while hungry. Lola being her biological daughter is what would make her being Nami and the Straw Hats' friend so important.
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>>101664761
That's stupid, though. She's just a glutton, normal candy wouldn't satisfy her.
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>>101664918

>bringing real physics into One Piece

I'm sure Kizaru doesn't move at the actual speed of light since you could SEE his beam while it was traveling (when he hit Appo for instance) and the fact that he doesn't instantly appear at locations he's needed. He arrived at Sabaody with a ship. You can say he's lazy but if he needed to be somewhere he'd be there instantly, yet he doesn't work like that.
Basically the fruit gives him an approximation of the properties of light, not he actual properties of light.
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>>101665012
Pekoms has also called her Momma though. I think it's a crew thing, although more out of respect than comradeship. That being said I agree that Lola would have to be someone important to Big Mom, perhaps biologically related for the Vivre card to mean anything.
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>>101665391
Of course they'd call her Momma, all of WB's subordinates called him father and grandfather. It's the same concept.
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>>101665557
Um
That and
She's literally named Mom.
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>>101665557
not the same guy, but everyone calls her big mom, even jimbo
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>>101665594
Her name is Charlotte Linlin.
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>>101665626
Sure. But her pirate name is Big Mom.
Everyone calls Luffy Strawhat too.
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>>101665626
what did they call edward newgate again?
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>>101665763
Pale Moustache.
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>>101658933

Diamante is proving to be trash.
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>>101664343
He could still turn into it, making it a logia. Very few logias have even been seen controlling elements that they didn't create themselves. Actually, give me one example other than Caesar.
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>>101661824

She doesn't have blue eyes. How can you call yourself a fan of hers when you don't even know her eye color?
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>>101663307

He was. He reduce the damage by using his fruit to make their cuts not go as deep. He was bleeding in the panel after that.
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>>101665763
Cid Fabool IX
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>>101666018
Diamante is against JESUS BURGESS and SABO. Two of the most hyped characters in the series, and he has to fight them both at once.

Give him a fucking break. Doflamingo had enough confidence in Diamante to be able to handle both JESUS MOTHER FUCKING BURGESS and Luffy so I think he can back it up with something.
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>>101666058
Good point, but we don't know the limit of what they can create. how much of Croc's sand was his own and how much of it was pulled from the surrounding area?
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>>101607025
*Ace never died*
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>>101666200
not same guy, but Doflamingo doesn't know how much luffy has grown in the past two years. But your point still stands
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>>101666200

And yet, he isn't handling shit.
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I have yet to see a fruit make someone that was fuck stronk become weaker ......
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>>101666379
Kalifa.
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>>101666366
what is showmanship?
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>>101666366
Sabo is the wild card making it more difficult. He alone fucks up all calculations.
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>>101606836
all the flying fruit users can regenerate from any injury (pell, monet, marco, etc.)
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Green Bull could be wind based since I don't think we have one of those yet.
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>>101665012
maybe she has some weird zoan and when she "ate" the crew mate she did so that she could heal him or something
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I like Sabo as much as the next guy but the idea of hitting someone with my hand in this position makes me wince.
Just make a fucking fist. God.
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Pell should have died
Pagaya should have died
Sodom and Gomorrah should have died
Mr. 2 should have died
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>>101667949
>Sodom and Gomorrah
nigga don't even go there
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>>101668034
Enel is going to come back for them.
Give them some God's Judgement.
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>>101668034
They got a tragic sacrifice and then revealed to be alive. It is no better than Pell's or Mr. 2 situations. Pagaya should have just stayed dead, no one cared about him.
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>>101628448
all I see is a mixture of nami face and shirahoshi
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>>101633611
Nami
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>>101667913
Gitgud feggit
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>>101666597
>Monet
Oh the denial in this is delicious.
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>>101645857
>caring about Lao G

He's just gonna be Lao Z in combat anyway.
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>>101667913
>hating on TIGAH STYLE

Do you even Wu-Tang?
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>>101670007
OH FUCK YOU YOU TACO-BENDING FUCK

>>101666741
I thought this was pretty much assumed to be Dragon's power...?
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>>101670794
>Dragon
>power
He doesn't have one.



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