I want to know more about Gantz.
Biggest piece of crap.
Lara Croft and other girls were pretty hot though.
Go read Vagabond.
Pretty fun until the alien invasion, after that it became irredeemable.
Lara Croft or Reika?
The alien invasion, and the world's shittiest ending for this kind of manga is what killed it for me...
Well actually the alien invasion was going fine up until the last... dozen? chapters.
The last dozen chapters were the only good parts of the invasion arc. It had the end of it. And it had the alien trolls. God that shit was terrible.
Up until around the alien invasion, I could not put this manga down. It's a great read minus the ending and I'd recommend it.
Despair, death, rape, xeno fetish fuel, pointless vampires, and dense aliens.
Yeah. It happens so late into the manga you can't but feel that you have to finish it even though you won't like what happens.
I thought it was pretty great until the vampires. It still had iffy art all the way through.
My one complaint, besides the ending, is that they didn't do anything with the vamps. They shouldn't have introduced them at all.
All those guys raping the giant female aliens was pretty okay.
I wonder how many penises you could fit in them.
It was great for marathoning, no matter how bad it becomes later. I still have those 2 last chapters to read though.
This guy was OP as fuck
Great until the vampires and never-before-mentioned-brother-that-is-inexplicably-a-vampire. After that it gets worse and worse.
What about that one faggot that endlessly transformed into a stronger monster?
After the Nurarihyon mission (the one with team osaka) it started to lose interest.
That guy is probably more OP.
only regenerates if you don't fuck up the regeneration thing in one of the arms.
They nyuharon or w/e regenerated from puddle of meat and took out the osaka team.
1 H-gun shot would have killed >>101588264
I started to follow the manga around volume 5, I loved it during the first 2 stages, the third stage was bullshit and made me drop the manga forever, what a shame.
Yeah, this dude should have killed everyone.
this guy was always putting his dick in something. A role model for us all
I dropped it when after waiting however long for each chapter, 90% of it was 1-2 panel pages of that plain girl screaming the protags name. That went on for months.
He killed one of the best Gantz fighters in a super suit with ease too.
That guy really didn't fuck around.
That was such an anti-climax.
Whoa why is she like 2 feet taller than everyone?
I guess I'll finish gantz after all
Osaka mission was really damn cool. It slowly went to shit afterwards but the art was still good
Anyone care to tl:dr the ending for me.
I'd read everything up until that godlike alien who kept changing form appeared (after the invasion started) for a huge exposition dump.
If it's as bad as people claim it is I'd rather not have to go suffer through it.
That scene was fapworthy.
Even in another manga, Chad still jobs.
we need gantz gifs
The so-called "God" you cling to does not exist.
This is all you need to know about Gantz: it has the best depictions of Americans that any anime/manga has ever had. They are such hilarious racist caricatures and even win the war against the aliens
Anyone care to tl;dr the series, besides the ending for me?
I've read nothing besides the part where they fight the last guerrilla aliens in the ship up to the end.
I heard it was shit, so I didn't even start.
godlike aliens leave
alien prince starts causing shit
he wants to crash the mothership on earth and kill everyone
gantz balls stop working (again)
kei vs prince
everyone leaves on those small spaceships
they make it back
Kei-Clone is killed. Musclerider goes back to earth. Kei And Tae return too. Then giant alien dude challenges kei and if he declines or loses, earth will be tanked by the mothershipp. Kei and Kato win the fight against him, fall to earth and are hailed as the saviours of mankind.
I like to pretend that it ended after rome
That part was so shitty.
>LOOK EVERYONE, IT WAS MAN THAT WAS THE REAL MONSTER ALL ALONG.
Thanks. That sounds super underwhelming.
It was pretty cool until after the osaka. Everyone reply in agreement.
It is... nothing was explained and the last chapter is just stupid.
Americans were still the best part, they didn't give a fuck and screwed with everyone like with the American operating the ball transport telling Kaze "You look Mongolian, Im gonna send you to Mongolia"
Weird how they just disappeared from the plot.
I followed Gantz because of sunk time costs
like hell I would read this far without knowing what happens at the end
it was entertaining, but it won't make any "list of favorite manga" for anyone with taste
i honestly dont remember this
I hated the fact that Kei liked that basic girl when Reika was the perfect woman that wanted the D. I just couldn't.
Has some hot girls otherwise it's a heap of shit and the aliens were absolutely fucking retared and decided to started all this shit just to make a point that could have been proven through nothing but words.
What is the last chapter they appeared in?
Probably fan backlash which in turn caused the editors to have a word with the author.
There were in the last chapter, those two who got stuck in the Gantz game and had to go along with it. They got like a one panel reaction shot.
As for the rest of the vampires, shit I dunno
Its a guilty pleasure of mine and held my attention for an incredibly long time as well as being one of the first manga I really got into. Is it the best? No. Is the ending arc/ending as bad as people say? Its disappointing and feels rushed even though it isn't but its not terrible. Everyone who says "its the worst ending to any manga ever" clearly has read very little manga.
Also I love all the Gantz technology designs.
Aside from the ending being the absolute worst ending to a story that I've ever read / heard
there were so many plot holes and useless details to the point that it was as if the mangaka would make random shit up 5 minutes before handing in his shit
The ending isn't bad. But the last arc itself is terrible. Literally unreadable in my opinion, and I've read a shitload of trash in my time.
It's not the worst ending primarily because the decay in quality had been happening for a seriously long time.
Forgotten plot threads =/= plot holes
Doesn't one of the American guys literally fuck everything that moves?
Gantz was great
No, its one of the guys from the Osaka team that we later find out is a school teacher.
Did Nishi die again?
Yup that's the American team alright.
>mfw Americans clap when they watch giant aliens get fucked
I always thought the way they killed him was retarded. He can't regenerate because he can't see where the attacks come from but if he does see them he can regenerate from being just a puddle of blood without trouble?
I enjoyed MOST of the last arc to be honest, though there are a few stretches here and there I didn't like. I liked the idea of the whole raised stakes of a full out invasion though and I would still say I enjoyed a good 75% of it.
I have an opinion, you have an opinion, everyone has different tastes.
Gantz needed way more Xenos rape.
The model and the country girl were the sexiest. The actual gf looked like she had downs.
They have a cameo watching kei and the giant alien fighting the final fight.
No but at the end the Americans rounded up all the giantesses and some decided they wanted to try fucking them because the Americans were all drunk with power
Sei is best girl. That's all you need to know about Gantz.
Damn Americans. At least the honourable Japanese would never do such a thing in war.
She looked like a bland normal Asian girl, that was the point
The ending was absolute shit, fuck being the the worst ending in manga that was the worst ending i've ever seen period
Kei was a total boss. I remember he kicked out that slut from his apartment for not fucking him.
Why can't there be more characters like him.
>At least the honourable Japanese would never do such a thing in war.
I beg to differ
You have read nothing then, explain why its a bad ending when its nothing more than a harmless, cliche happy ending? Spelling counts
Yes thankfully, I hated that phaggot
I think that was the joke.
That kid was the embodiment of 'edgy'.
Started out good, then jumped a million alien sharks and ended on a lolwat.
That's about all you need to know about Gantz.
It was extremely trite, rushed, and illogical. Now it's your turn to explain why it wasn't terrible
I hope he was joking
Exactly. I think the writers realized half way into introducing him that he was too powerful and hoped people wouldn't remember he could regenerate.
Don't worry, I was only pretending to be retarted.
My favorite thing about the ending is that the author forgot that Tae was on a SAFE EARTH for two days, and was still pantsless. See last page.
Unless he was trying to hint at a "they died in the ocean and the rest was a dream" ending.
What episode was this? I need to rewatch it again for reasons.
>extremely trite, rushed, and illogical
Only real problem there is that it was trite, it was not rushed because it simply was explained long ago it would be ending and just ended with an end that some didnt feel was satisfying. As for illogical, though things like the god part may seem stupid it still had a logical flow to it and nothing contradicted other parts.
I found the ending fine because it was just a happy ending which I was fine with considering Kurono went through so much shit I wanted him to have a happy ending. Was it original? No. Was it cheesy? Yes. Is it the worst ending ever? Not by a long shot.
You are going to need more specific of an answer for how this is "the worst ending of any manga ever" because even Monster has a WAY worse ending than Gantz. At least Gantz didn't trivialize the plot at the end or utterly ruin a character.
Also, did female/dog/pet Kei also die again and stay dead?
haha good point
WHERE THIS SERIES IS GOING WE WON'T NEED PANTS
Yes. She was only good for her short blonde hair and massive tits combo.
No, I think she also had a cameo as onlooker in the crowd watching kei and kato fight.
She got blown the fuck up right in front of them
I forgot but what happened to the Panda?
There's nothing wrong with a happy ending, but the mangaka knew the series had been on the decline and probably got tired of writing it and just slopped together something in order to say he finished it. that's my problem. IMO it would have been better had he even just stopped and said fuck it you all come up with your own ending as opposed to pulling that shit out of his ass
A mediocre ending is better than no ending.
Just disappears after Italy. He's still there in the room at first but does not return in the end.
>Bro, Vampires are gonna shank your ass in your sleep
>S'okay, I got a flashlight.
In this specific case I'll disagree
No ending would be better than that terrible ending
Like 13 or 15. Probably not 14. Maybe 17.
Ate shoots and leaves.
Sometimes I wonder if I'd be happier reading gantz again for the first time or forgetting about it completely.
I can't remember a time when a series drew me in so much, intrigued me, and left me wanting to know more... only to fart in my face in the last quarter of the series.
I will say the initial concept is great, some of the themes are quite good, but the writing falls apart, and in the end total limp dick disappointment
I assume that it's better if you read it for the first time all at once in two days, like I did. Rather than wait monthly for chapters that last 30 seconds, that shit much have sucked.
Read up until the where kei dies after the oni alien mission and then completely disregard everything else
What chapter is this?
>Monster has a WAY worse ending than Gantz
try again nigger
Again, I do not see how it was anything more than mediocre. A terrible ending retroactively ruins everything while this one just kinda sloppily ended it.
This nigga ruined Gantz for dozens of chapters.
Opinions bro... opinions
This series had no goal or plan from the beginning. He clearly just had the original idea of a game where people fight monsters to get points and then wrote whatever came to mind after that. It only seemed good to us at first because it had that air of mystery. We just ASSUMED that there was some cool shit going on that would all make sense down the line. We ASSUMED all of this grief was going to lead to character development.
If he just wrote kei as being confused at the beginning of each arch any of the archs could have been the start of the story. Because NOTHING EVER CHANGED.
I don't understand how some of you people could be upset about the ending. I'll admit I didn't follow Gantz, but I knew enough about it to know it's utterly retarded.
What kind of ending were you expecting?
one that wasn't completely shit
I wanted it to be a Reality Tv show for aliens
I don't know either. The sweet sigh of relief knowing it was over.
Many fights in Gantz could have been way easier if the characters actually started shooting from greater distance and with a higher rate of fire, instead of standing around like idiots or watching their friends fight the alien 1on1.
There should have only been one Gantz first of all. ALIENSSSS should have not been in the story at all.
I know but I want to hear a reason why you find so terrible, I cannot see the reason for it
They wanted one that catered to their expectations, not what the series built up to. Welcome to /a/, the self-entitlement board.
Fucking this, no one would just fucking shoot their goddamn guns.
The civilians also pissed me off in this manga and manga like I Am A Hero, they think everything is CGI, no matter how close they see it, how big it is, or how many people are dieing around them. What the fuck.
CGI is just that advanced nowadays.
I was always hoping that we'd never learn about the mysteries behind Gantz and the monsters. Some of their powers were so unbelievable it went beyond sci-fi and into the realm of drug-induced psychedelia.
What was always important about it was the characters, how Kei went from being an unlikable, selfish creepy prick to being a responsible young man.
The series didn't build up to shit. There was zero character development beyond the daytime lantern thing which never really went anywhere.
The hilarious part is this manga is fairly old now. When it started CGI must have been absolute shit.
Yeah stupid idiots, when they see strange things in public they should go "OH MY GOD ITS AN ALIEN CREATURE THAT A NORMAL HUMAN BEING DOESN'T BELIEVE EXISTS" instead of trying to rationalize it as an explainable phenomenon.
That fucking arc where he comes back alone and has to fight alone is amazing. I don't know what you are talking about.
> Kei went from being an unlikable, selfish creepy prick to being a responsible young man.
yeah actually that was another problem for me, that Kei's transition wasn't believable. it just kind of happens for no reason
If I saw an alien in public I would not rationalize anything I would shit myself and run.
Shock, denial and rationalization is a more common response.
difference in preferences. but I listed them early
too cliche, rushed, and IMO offered very little closure to characters' storylines. As I said earlier it was as if the author said fuck it and wrote down something just to end it, as opposed to taking the time to set up or develop an ending that would either leave open interpretation to viewers or gracefully close out a once good story. it offered neither
Really, guy? You must be japanese
>He wouldn't drop trou and fuck it
Except you don't KNOW its an alien. The people in the manga are not also reading the manga, they do not know the plot is happening like you do. I bet you go to movie theatres to see slasher flicks and scream at the screen "DON'T GO IN THERE GIRL HE BEHIND THE DOH!"
I hate to say this, and specifically because I'm talking about fucking Gantz of all things, but you need to read it again. Kei realises that his friend, the only guy on the planet that cares about him in any way is gone and he can't handle that. On top of that, he was a much better person than Kei was and he feels a new sense of purpose spurring him on. It's a pretty good catalyst for wanting to change, and way better than the alternative.
This manga began in 2000
You show me some CGI in 2000 that looks even remotely real
Pretty sure candid camera shows have shown that this is not the case.>>101592836
>IMO offered very little closure to characters' storylines
> as opposed to taking the time to set up or develop an ending that would either leave open interpretation to viewers or gracefully close out a once good story
Those are legit complaints and I guess I didnt see those posts. I can accept that as criticism and different strokes for different folks but I still feel "worst manga ending ever" is a bit much.
Mel Gibson was great, I wish we got more of him.
>but I still feel "worst manga ending ever" is a bit much.
You're right. It is the third worst ending ever after Mx0 and OreImo.
Candid camera shows use like 1/10th of the total reactions they film. Either that or they just film black people which is cheating.
Show me an alien from the 2000s first, if your first reaction to something you do not recognize is that it is a living breathing alien then you are either a retard or a mental patient. Your first instinct would be to think its some sort of traditional or digital effect.
What about Cage of Eden. The manga wasn't amazing, but my God, that ending...
That ending wasnt the author's fault, I'm pretty sure he got forced into ending it at literally the worst time
I havent read it yet but actually was planning to tomorrow
Is it shit?
No, it has it's moments, and it's intriguing as to what the Hell is going on.
The ending is the single worst thing I have ever read. So bad that I'd actually recommend against picking it up.
>Ruined it for dozens of chapters
>Implying Shorty wasn't the best arc
Yeah im just not gonna bother then. For me the end is the most important part of a story because its what you remember when you finish.
Oh, trust us. The ending is bollocks incarnate.
Cage of Eden was just getting worse and worse, the editors made the right choice putting it out of its misery.
>This series had no goal or plan from the beginning. He clearly just had the original idea of a game where people fight monsters to get points and then wrote whatever came to mind after that. It only seemed good to us at first because it had that air of mystery. We just ASSUMED that there was some cool shit going on that would all make sense down the line. We ASSUMED all of this grief was going to lead to character development.
Sounds like Attack On Titan
Look, I get what you're saying, and it could work like this in something like I Am A Hero
But Gantz takes it way too fucking far.
Keep in mind these events keep happening, and people know about them.
Dude the T-1000's transformation sequences looked like shit.
If you leave this thread now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.
I don't know who is dumber, the guy comparing the CG used in a tv anime to a high budget Hollywood movie, or the guy who is bashing that same movie. Probably the former, bu you both are looking pretty dumb right now.
I thought the guy said he already has all the story in mind.
Why did Lara croft die? I remember seeing that anime episode and I thought it was pretty sad. Everyone dying, all his loved ones even lara croft who was really in love with him and vice versa. manga went to shit I see.
He does, he also said we are 2 thirds through and already is planning what he will work on after. People may not like how entry level SnK is but at least the guy isn't trying to milk it.
I still remember when Gantz was good and dinosaurs talked and fought.
You know, Gantz kind of reminds me of another manga where girls fight demons with giant swords.
I hope their ending isn't as sit
Looks like you guys haven't read the recent interview
Author already stated that he's extending it and decided to change the ending he originally had in mind. So much for integrity.
>People may not like how entry level SnK is but at least the guy isn't trying to milk it.
>Already 2 fucking spin-offs in less than 5 years.
Shit. It took Naruto 12 years before it got a spin-off
Guess the industry corrupts everything then
Or maybe he's just a fucking hack and people are blindly sucking his dick for no reason.
Right, but wasn't he originally going for a Minagoroshi end? Canceling one of those is understandable.
So I watched the anime years ago. Was alright til the ending.
Manga worth picking up?
Read it, but once they get to rome, that's the point where it all goes downhill.
Anime a shit.
Manga is way WAY better.
It was a trainwreck from the start so if you enjoyed the anime you could enjoy the manga til the end.
>Introduce love interest
>Kill love interest without any development
>Introduce long hair antihero
>Kill long hair antihero without any development
>Put them behind the scenes
>Completely useless without any development
Well I don't really hate it, it's nowhere near top tier plot, but I think it's a fun ride (because I read it when it was complete), kinda like Claymore in a modern setting with the main character being OP.
what happened to the guy that said that he was god or something
short never got his revenge
He just kept being godlike and told the humans to fuck off because he didn't care about helping them.
It's a pretty decent read. Had me hooked until halfway through the invasion ark, then it just fell apart.
Though, I really like the dynamic characterization of the protagonist. The pacing from pussy to a badass was just remarkable.
15 is where he fucks her for the first time, and it's not that scene. It must be one of the ones after that.
We're talking about people on the street, in series, thinking dudes fighting aliens is CGI.
Did you just skip the conversation?
The last couple chapters following the shifting demon is still pretty interesting. It's worth reading until after the huge invasion. After that would be a good place to stop.
This is episode 15.
This one I don't know.
I put up with a lot shit in Gantz, like I was souless, but this shit here really bothered me.
I was mad. Really fucking mad.
>that scene where he killed everyone in class
Why the fuck did they stay up there?
He deserved it, though.
so fucking awesome
Gantz was a C- action flick and it was fun for it.
>some random alien tells you are worthless
I'll never understand...
Not to mention they technically ARE the god that humans refer too.
THEY EVEN GAVE THEM TECHNOLOGY
the whole deal with the humans beings assholes and adding limits to the whole sphere technology even during the invasion was so retarded.
Why would you do that?
Cry more Kurono
>those animated sex scenes in the anime
the best thing about it.
That ED was also depressing as fuck
>Kaito and Kei disappear at the end
I never hated gantz till this happened
What would you do if someone ate your pudding?
I don't blame the man, I blame the mom for not getting medical attention.
The kid deserved his beating for eating that pudding, but that mom was truly scum for letting him eat it and not saving him after receiving his divine punishment.
The first part of gantz was the best part. It should have ended when kurono wished to be free.
still don't get why anyone would think this is a good idea.
now you can't see the aliens coming to kill you.
>watched Gantz and was really into it besides that terrible ending
>read some of the manga but never bothered past the vampire stuff
>read the ending
That could have been the ending to a arc, not a fucking series.
The story devolves into horseshit and the ending is a rushed, abrupt mess, but I still love Gantz for the crazy fucked-up imagery and the general insanity of the proceedings.
What's Oku up to now that it's finished?
Sounds interesting. He also did a oneshot with Yamamoto Hideo (guy who did Homunculus). It was pretty drab though.
I heard about Gantz a while back and whatched the anime and i though "holy shit this is awesome"
So i checked out the manga after the anime and really enjoyed it.
but i guess if you were following from the beginning and waiting months for new chapters I can see why everyone hates it, its a lot better in one sitting
I know man. It was so fucking good until it got to the the space monster bullshit arc
I remember checking back up on it a week ago going oh yea, surely there'll be more Gantz. NOPE, that really was the ending. Fuuuuuuck me.
Had some great nudity tho.
It's already started in moonland? Has the first chapter been translated yet?
I'm going to go with no. It looks a hell of a lot more serious than Gantz. Not sure what to make of it. Could be good. Aging salaryman manga? Not really what I was expecting from him.
He means the original Kei. Gantz accidentaly copied her even though she didn't died
I mean Nishi was edgy as fuck and everything, but I still have no clue why they had the kid wander around doing exposition shit for 50 chapters acting like he might become plot relevant only to suddenly recast him as a major villain and put Kei into a fight to the death with him almost immediately.
I'm not sure he was really a villain.
I mean yeah the killing his classmates thing, but fuck those guys.
His objective was to murder all these aliens, and even though a lot of them were "innocent" civilian aliens, they knew what the fuck their race has been doing to other planets so fuck them too.
And then they died anyway.
Oh god what, androids? Welp.
That was actually one of my favorite bits in the series. The vampires were fucking stupid, but it was awesome seeing no combat memory/experience Kei still kicking immense amounts of ass. Every time he fought without his Gantz suit he was much cooler.
>Shooting down birdman in midair
>Shooting dinosaurs with a laser rifle on the back of a super cycle
Goddamn, why did they ever even give him one? He did damn well without it.
Even if Gantz sucked, nobody can deny it's one of the best "only post one page" mangas out there. Like
I gotta say, at least the final fight was fucking awesome. Especially the way Kei ends it.
Fuck the ending, I just want to know if there is any good Gantz doujin for fapping matter, like the gang rape Reika with a bunch of tentacle demons. One hell of a fap ride...
fucking old man and inabata, Oku you suck so much for killing them like that.
Inabata finally got development after everyone treated him like shit and then he got monty python'd.
What was the deal with the aliens before the invasion arc? Did a bunch of dinosaur aliens looking for a new home choose earth and saw that humans had a museum with models that look just like them so they replace the statues? Even if they just transformed into dinosaurs, it's kinda hard to believe that the life of a statue is something any alien would want.