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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2014-02-05/akira-toriyama-to-draw-manga-about-goku-mom

>She will appear in a compilation of Toriyama's new manga Jaco the Galactic Patrolman in a bonus comic. Her name is "Gine," and Toriyama explains that she has a gentle nature. She fights along with Bardock in a four-Saiyan team, where he repeatedly saves her. Her temperament makes her unfit for the warrior life Saiyans lead, and she and Bardock develop romantic feelings for each other — something alien to the Saiyans, who only form relationships for the purpose of reproduction. As a consequence, she is assigned to a meat distribution center.

Okay first time I have been interested in Dragonball in almost a decade.
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Isn't this guy like pushing 3000 years old? Whe will he stop?
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>>101569916
The shitstorm will be glorious once this comes out
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>She fights along with Bardock in a four-Saiyan team
So its Fasha. I knew it.
I can't wait tot read it then to jack off at hentai pics of her.
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Its just a chapter in of the one-shots of his
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>>101571073
>Her name is "Gine,"
>ITS FASHA!!!!
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Good. There's more worth in one chapter from Toriyama than in all the original crap shat by Sueisha and Toei.
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That's weird. I remember seeing a thread on /a/ asking about Goku's mom a week or so ago.
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>>101570425
The 90s kids just can't get enough of Goku and neither Toei or Shueisha have created another international hit to replace it. One Piece may be bigger than DBZ on Japan but Goku is the king on the international market.
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>>101569916
>Her temperament makes her unfit for the warrior life Saiyans lead, and she and Bardock develop romantic feelings for each other — something alien to the Saiyans, who only form relationships for the purpose of reproduction.
Sounds like Byrne's Man of Steel.
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First Bulma gets an older sister and now Goku's mother. I'm all for it. Fuck your canon/non-canon shit. GT was justified too. They actually tried to wrap things up in case they couldn't milk it anymore.

As long we're getting more stuff to work with. I'm sick of the same story being told all over again. If they want Dragon Ball to continue, this is the way to do it. Even if it isn't perfect and has flaw to it, I'll take that over the stagnated same old story over and over again. This is fine.
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>>101570925
> people expecting grand shit
> it turns out to be short comedy chapter
> people disappointed

It's inevitable.
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>romantic feelings
Good to know vegeta isnt the only sayian that loves his family
Cause goku doesnt give a fuck and gohan is half human.
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>>101570010
Switch High and God and you're good.
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>>101573343
that's because goku was the big bad
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I wonder if she is going to be like that chick from dbz multiverse
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>His dad is the first super saiyan
>His mom is a moeblob in a warrior culture
>One of the few saiyans born from love
Remember when Goku was an unremarkable low-class warrior?
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>>101573641
No
He was a boy with a tail who survived a bullet to the head
He aways was special
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>>101573641
Not really.
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>>101569916
>this is my 2nd last manga before retiring
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I bet she has short hair, fuck you Akira just give her long hair.
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Goku was born of a rare romantic relationship...then he was send as a baby to kill off an entire planet and his brother grew up to be a sadistic asshole
good job guys, good job
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>>101573887
So, what's bad about that?
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>>101573641
Remember when Goku was just a mystical monkey boy from old Chinese legends?

nobody does
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>>101573921
>Mother has a gentle nature
>Father is a hero dying to protect his world, and then becomes a legendary warrior of justice in the past
>One child send off to genocide a planet
>The other child was raised to be a killer with a sadistic nature
You really don't see the problem here?
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Ten bucks say they forget about radditz and show her pregnant with goku first
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>>101574012
No they didn't really had power over raising their children, they were bred to kill. I mean Freeza was still in control back then. So no I don't see a problem there.
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>>101572608
>Taqueria
>That Kebab meat
Is this always like this Mexican anons?
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>>101569916
Let me know when there's porn of her making Goku.
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>>101574163
Only if it's as good as when they made Goten. It's like Akira drew it himself.
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When are we we getting a SOL about living under ruthless planet money grabbing Freiza?
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Man I hope Akira dives more in Saiyan history, I love that shit.
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>>101573951
I do because I'm chinese.
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…it's interesting. I don't think he has to du this so that means he himself STILL hasn't become sick of DBZ. Kind of curious but I like it.
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>Akira Toriyama
>Retiring
Yeah right. What's he going to do?
Go super sailing?
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>>101575919
Well it's a little bonus for his Dragon Ball prequel manga. He isn't really sick of Dragon Ball but when it comes to a movie he rather has other people do it.

This is what he said about a new possible new Dragon Ball Z movie where he wants Vegeta to be the hero.
> I don’t think I’d want to be actively involved, but if I get a request and I have the time, I suppose I might.

He did offer to help Fox for free when he read Dragon Ball Evolution, but they said nah.
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>>101574267
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>>101574267
God that doujin brings me back.
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You'd bet she'd look like Raditz or did Akira already forgot about him?
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>>101576453
No.
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>she is assigned to a meat distribution center.
That means she get raped daily
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>>101574046

I can see the retcon now: Either Radditz and Goku have different Saiyan mothers, or Raddits was adopted.

Considering that I don't think Saiyans are the kind to adopt others' offspring, I'm going to go with the different mom theory.
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>>101576705
>The quartet of Bardock, Gine, Raditz, and Kakarrot make up Bardock’s family, such as it is, but all four of them were never together.

>Also, I think that Bardock himself might have had siblings, but perhaps even Bardock himself doesn’t really know, and at any rate, he probably has no interest in it, either.

>Saiyans don’t have much of a concept of “family”.
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>>101569916
What a neat concept. Thats probably one of the great untold stories of the whole DB universe.
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>>101573887
Could have been half brother.
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>>101569916
It sounds like a good premise.
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What if it's just 2 pages?
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>Gine
An aubergine?
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>>101576555
I thought they ate her.
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>>101576705

I could see them pulling off a thing where Raditz is Goku's half brother, but who knows, maybe Gine will look more like Raditz.
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This is Goku's mother.

We didn't have name though, now we do.
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>>101581840
That's 18 with Saiyan hair and Saiyan armor.
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I always assumed Goku and Raditz had different mothers.
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>>101573108
>First Bulma gets an older sister

wat
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Saiyan MILF!
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I hope Bardock is in a female Saiyan squad. I want to see more female Saiyan designs.
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>>101573951
>yfw the dragon ball universe is thousands of years before our world after an apocalypse that erases all technology and the original monkey king story is misinterpreted version of Goku's life.
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>>101581994
A one-shot manga Akira did recently. She has her mother's hair.
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>As a consequence, she is assigned to a meat distribution center.

Meat is a euphemism for vagina in Saiyanese, and the meat distrobution centre is just a fancy name for Saiyan whorehouse, right?
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Toriyama is terrible when it comes to any kind of romance or emotional things.
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>>101573108
>GT was justified too.
Go choke on a dick and die.
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>>101587169
He's not comfortable doing that stuff so he goes into detail. Pretty sure he won't here either.

Think the idea is just to show Goku's mother and little more on the Saiyans.
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>>101587373
*he doesn't
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>>101576400
I don't think I've ever read it.

Time for the sad panda.
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>>101587373
I'm ok with kind of skimming over things that are easy to fill in the blanks on by yourself (Goku is simple, his romance was simple) and I'd much rather that than some shitty hamfisted romance with poor dialog and interaction.
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>>101587905
Exactly. Romance wasn't the focus anyway in Dragon Ball.
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>>101588085
Simple people, simple romance. It was there, it felt organic and no shitty drama started out of it. I don't know what else people want.

It's not like the relationship played on central themes like in YYH or FMA.
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>>101574080

Kebab is a piece of meat cooked in a special way, or some consider it to be a combination of the meat with pita bread for it to be a proper kebab. A taco is a tortilla with any kind of filling, kebab meat included. There´s nothing wrong with the advertisement.
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>>101590538
Non-fastfood kebabs are also made without pita bread.
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>>101590747

It can be made with naan, also, but both pita and naan are bread. All the middle east countries in which the kebab is a common dish use some kind of bread. In other words, if It doesn´t have bread it's not a real kebab.

Tortilla =/= bread
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>>101572057

I remember. Toriyama confirmed for browsing /a/
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>>101570010
>Purple

She was in the manga as well. In fact, purple looks better on Bulma, and it's implied that she dyed her hair in the anime anyway.
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>>101573641
Remember when he was human?

>>>/readtheoriginaldragonballagain/
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>>101591572
>The original
>Implying there isn't only one manga
>Implying he wasn't foreshadowed to be an alien since then
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>>101591797
When I meant the original anon, I meant Dragon Ball from 1984 to about 1989.

Also, Toriyama wrote the series out of his ass past the second volume, which didn't turn out bad until much later on.
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>>101591991
>When I meant the original anon, I meant Dragon Ball from 1984 to about 1989.
People who like to draw arbitrary lines in the manga or pretend the Saiyan saga and on are a different series are as bad as people who don't read the manga.
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Fucking Toriyama, work on a Mirai Trunks spinoff already!
Continue the story when Trunks goes back to his time. He is the last sayian so it could actually pretty interesting. No more dragonballs to revive anybody. Trunks forming his on team of fighters that are not sayians.
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Toriyama is the reason I've never played dragon quest

I've hated this guy's art style for 12 years
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>>101592224
>Saiyan
>half human
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>>101592224
The multiverse is canon now
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>>101592224
But the history of Trunks episode and the clips we saw were literally fantastic. He did an amazing job of setting up a horrible bleak future of fear where even a Z fighter cowers in terror, and he made time travel with multiple worlds that actually all made sense. There's no need to revisit it because it was already great and he got his closure when he went back to his time and killed the androids and Cell.
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>>101592315
meh close enough
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>>101573108
>I'll take that over the stagnated same old story over and over again

desperation in post form ladies and gentlemen
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>>101592424
It could still be dark.
It's not like there won't be anymore threats to earth after the androids are gone.
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>>101592285
Cool.
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>>101592224
>>101592424

Do they just say say he kills off the androids? Does he stop cell too?
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>>101592554
No Cell. Not enough energy for Buu. Bills wouldn't come to Earth.

On top of this, now that the androids are gone they can just fly to Namek to bring Piccolo back and get their dragon balls.

There's really no room left for conflict. He did it once, he did it right. Now all that's left is more and more super God battles in different dimensions with old school DB humor, just like the movie gave us.
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>>101592424
This, it was already perfect. I don't want Toriyama ruining it.

The latest movies proved that he's shit now and doesn't care about the characters at all.
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>>101592757
you are so uncreative
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>>101592848
>The latest movies proved that he's shit now
Back up a minute. I'm the guy you're responding too, and while I love how Trunks' story was handled, the last movie was great.

>>101592876
And you're an idiot for wanting to ruin a part of the story that was already done properly. I shouldn't expect much of someone who doesn't know how to capitalize or use punctuation.
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>>101592848
well all he wants to do is make goofy slapstick comedy manga
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>>101592986
You are coward for not wanting to take any risk because you are scared of somebody tarnishing your precious animuuus
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>>101592224
>and he made time travel with multiple worlds that actually all made sense
yeah except when he killed the Cell of his world, even though cell of his world was actually the one Gohan killed, and the Cell of our world was killed back in Gero's lab. That shit didn't make any sense whatsoever.
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>>101592752
You're kidding, right? Chapter 420.
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>>101593252
thanks
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>>101593160
I can't even begin to explain how stupid you are.

>>101593251
Because you couldn't follow it. The Cell Gohan killed was from timeline 3. The one Trunks killed was timeline 2. Try to keep up.
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>Toriyama doing a cash grab manga to explain shit no one gives a fuck about in a increasingly dying franchise
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>>101593511
>no one gives a fuck about in a increasingly dying franchise
Fuck you. I want 10 more movies about Goku traveling through dimensions fighting Gods until he's a SSJGod level 10. Then I want him to challenge them all to an eating contest.
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>>101593439
>even more timelines
yeah in that case it makes even less sense for Trunks to go back in time. If there are fucking infinite dimensions why the fuck even go through the trouble of warning one of them.
Just a bunch of shitty fluff added to let the story play out the way it did.
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>>101593160
>coward

Why not just let the series be as it is?
If Toriyama wants to do more, then why not
create a new manga rather than shoehorn
more onto DBZ.

The more it continues the worst things will get. Name a series that has been a resounding success a decade after its finish.
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>>101593622

Man, Battle of the Gods was fucking shit.
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>>101593752
Charlie brown
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I think a sayian on vegeta with a gentle nature and a romantic relationship is a load of shit, it doesn't fit into my image of Sayians. I always imagined Sayians would just fuck a random slut, impregnate her for the good of their race and the mother would drop the baby off once it was born and return to fighting.

I always assumed Goku and Radditz were half brothers.
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>>101593752
I don't think he can create new manga, people would just complain it isnt dragon ball. My creating one of the most successful franchises he might have trapped himself.
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>>101593734
No you're just making up excuses to cover for the fact that you couldn't follow it. There were 4 timelines and Trunks even explained why he did things. It all made complete sense.

>>101593764
Do you even remember the beginning of Dragon Ball? Battle of the Gods was the pure essence of the series.
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>>101593622
are you one of those kids that makes those cringeworthy GoKuGoEsSsJ20XxXx vids on youtube?
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>>101587169
what?
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>>101591797
>Implying he wasn't foreshadowed to be an alien since then

He wasn't. The world of dragonball has a lot of freaks in it. He's clearly a nod to the Monkey King and nothing more.
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>>101593840
To be fair, Goku's mom seems to be an anomally and it may be implied Goku and Radizt are half-brothers
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>>101593940
He could easily do it, a new series that is completely different. But it seems he's more content on riding off of dragonballs success.

Toriyama doesn't give a shit about his fans, if he did he would have given Vegeta a more prominent role throughout the series, but he hates Vegeta.
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>>101592424
>Z fighter
>dark dragonball series

No.
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>>101594149
You guys are forgetting Turles
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>>101593957
>you just didnt get it man
yeah I did, just because they added some dialog to cover up their tracks doesn't make it not retarded.
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>>101594000
Are you one of those kids who doesn't recognize the tone of the series and who tries to act mature when in reality he's too stupid to capitalize a sentence?

>>101594132
>"The guys with the crazy hair usually are aliens"
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>>101594212
>Movie Canon
>Mattering
I bet you think Freezer had a brother too.
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>>101594132

Goku outright says that he knows that he isn't a human while facing Piccolo Daimao. Now, that's already relatively close to the Saiyan Saga, but it shows that he had that idea planned for a while before it at least.
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>>101594197
The fuck are you talking about? It already happened and it was already great.
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>>101594245
>Yeah I followed it even though I explicitly said it didn't make sense to me
>It doesn't matter that the characters explained it, it's still bullshit

Holy shit you're retarded.
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>>101594268
Nice retort anon. You sure showed him.
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>>101594212
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAAkitmLBLY
Superior Ocean dub not that youngfag funi dub
- Jap dub is best though

Ocean dub were already experienced VAs from early 90s cartoons. Funi dubs were a bunch of randoms that barley got paid anything when first signed on because they needed a quick fix.
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>>101594393
Stop pretending you're someone else and stop pretending you actually read the series from the beginning.
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>>101594280
> falling for bait
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>>101594280
>Making a bunch of movies that aren't canon

Other than History of Trunks and Bardock's movie, why were the others even made?
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BulmaxVegeta is the only ship I ever actually liked in anything
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>>101594149
> it may be implied Goku and Radizt are half-brothers

STOP. This is never implied.

>>101594306
>Goku outright says that he knows that he isn't a human while facing Piccolo Daimao.

you're a fucking idiot.

>>101594314
it wasn't a story about darkness, it was a story about hope.
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>>101594531
for cash grabs?

Most of the plots were recycled from other arcs.

The mecha cooler movie is the freeza arc again, the lord slug movie is similar to king piccolo, the bojack movie is like the cell saga.

Only move I enjoyed was the Broly movie because it's just an 1 hour ass beating.
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>>101594132

there's literally a scene where he's fighting one of the Red Ribbon commanders and the guy looks at him with some tactical lens or something and one of the bulletpoints about him is "NOT HUMAN"
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>>101594531
Bardock and Trunks were actually tv specials.

Back in the age of vhs, series often didn't get complete releases for consumers, only rental. Movie were the main product sold to consumers back then. That's also why most of them had clear similarities with parts of the show, rehashing their story.
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>>101573419
This.
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>As a consequence, she is assigned to a meat distribution center.
Sounds like a bad (great) doujin plot.
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>>101594667
Plenty of people say that about him, but people also called the ox king a monster.

Kurilin doesn't have a nose, animals walks around and talk, there are plenty of freaks in dragonball. The alien stuff was not planned.

So what's your point?
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>>101594567
>you're a fucking idiot.

It's not that line. Look near the end of the battle. When Goku appears alive from the explosion holding onto the Kintoun.
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Why won't he let the series die? It had a good run but adding more now is really pointless.

No one gives a shit about Goku's mother. The latest Bardock movie was bad enough.
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>>101594567
>it wasn't a story about darkness, it was a story about hope.
The atmosphere was dark. Did you not see how wonderfully they did the scene where they attacked him 2 on 1? Obviously going back in time was all about hope. Goku was the hope of the universe and Trunks made it clear, and they even named the time machine Hope.
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>>101594939
>implying Toriyama has a choice
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>>101594927
Goku says that he might not be a human, and even points to his tail.
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>>101594839
People are claiming it was foreshadowed. Their are several references scattered throughout the series.
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>>101595001
>>101595061

Well damn. I was wrong and I am sorry.

>>101594939
>The latest Bardock movie was bad enough

That ass beating Chill got was delicious though.
Toriyama didn't write that however, he wrote Son Goku and Friends return and Battle of Z
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Poor Toriyama didn't even know lvl 3 Goku is the one with long blond hair, all those years of making deadlines mentally fucked him.

But I still would love for him to make another manga, but the one about Goku's mom.
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>>101595371
I think Toriyama fucks with people in his interviews, he "remembers" odd things about his series but "forgets" bigger details.

How the fuck can he remember Bulma's mom so easily, but not remember what 18 looks like?
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>>101595371
No it didn't he creates stuff and simply moves on. If he keeps it in mind he can't create new stuff. He has not mental issue or something.
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>>101595582

I think that's what happens after a mental breakdown of a genius brain.
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>>101595614
It's to a ridiculous extent though. There's a joint interview with him and Oda where Toriyama doesn't remember who Taopaipai is and Oda keeps insisting that Taopaipai is a super important character.
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>>101595614

10 years ago he knew those stuff and didn't create anything since then.
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>>101572798
No wonder, many aspects from the Saiyan race was taken from superman mythos
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>>101595704
Happens all the time also with directors.
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>>101595239
>Well damn. I was wrong and I am sorry.
Am I on the right board?
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>>101595657
You'd think that, but he says and I quote, "I’d like to be the sort of geezer who pretends to be senile so they can peep on their daughter in the bath."

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/adventure-special-toriyama-qa/
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>>101595735

I could somehow understand not remembering "smaller" characters, although that one was important in DB. But not remembering SS Goku lvl 3, that's like Hitchcock not remembering the twist of the Psycho (when he was still alive).
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>>101569916
Didn't Bardock have a Bardcock for that girl on his team already?
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>>101595798

Love those answers.
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>>101595798
>At the 21st Tenka’ichi Budōkai, at first the announcer is just an announcer, and there’s another guy who serves as the referee. But midway through, for some reason the referee vanishes, and the announcer becomes a referee and starts doing the ten-counts. Why is that?
>Now that you mention it, you’re right. Uh, let’s see, maybe it was to save money on labor costs?
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>>101595843
Okay.
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>>101595739
what was I supposed to say?

>>101595843
see:>>101595798

he's clearly fucking with people
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>>101595946
>How has your wife been since you got married?
>Thankfully, she hasn’t changed much. The only thing is, she’ll go out of her way for the people around her, and won’t tell them straight-up how she feels. She doesn’t mince words with me, though.
>Would you like to cheat on her?
>I’m not that brave. But if I knew I wouldn’t be found out, I’d like to try it just a little bit.

Balls of fucking steel
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>>101595914
>>101595914
Half assed answers are the best answers.

I choose to believe that the referee got diarrhoea and had to leave.
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http://www.thegrandline.com/odainterview.html

This is still the best Toriyama interview.
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>>101596059
>Oda :... Do you remember that character named Ranfan from the [21st] Tenkaichi Budokai?

>Toriyama: Oh yeah, she was there!

>Oda: It feels kind of weird to ask if you remember, but it seems as though you have forgotten a good amount of characters... (laugh) Anyway, you know how Ranfan took her clothes off, right? Her armpits during that scene were really drawn well. I thought that you were the first person to accurately draw someone's armpit that well. Back then, I always drew people's armpits. Those, and Taopaipai's hands.

>Toriyama: Taopaipai...? You're getting to some of the less important charactrers.

>Oda: What!? Taopaipai is a HUGE major character!

>Toriyama: The guy with the braid?

>Oda: Yeah yeah. The assassin. The guy that throws a pillar into the sky and rides it himself.

>Toriyama: Oh yeah, I did draw that didn't I.
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>>101596059
>My kids will never have awesome childhood like I had

Thank you Toriyama.
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>When Goku took the Carrotizer Bunny to the moon, why didn’t he turn into an Ōzaru?
>That’s because he won’t transform unless it’s a full moon, and at the time it was only a half moon. Even up close, a half moon is still a half moon.
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>>101569916
>As a consequence, she is assigned to a meat distribution center.

>she is assigned to a meat distribution center

>meat distribution center

oh god. Did Fatal Pulse email him this idea?
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>>101596100
Yes that;s in the interview.
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>>101596125
but...but...but...
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>>101595739
Don't discourage him, if I'm wrong I apologize about things. People discussing things and actually citing the source and not flinging shit is how the not retarded people here learn (there aren't many of us left).

>>101595946
>what was I supposed to say?
Thank you for not being a faggot.
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>What would you want to be reincarnated as?
>As a human. I’d want to be born once more as myself, but more talented.

I bet Oda would answer the same. They seem to be very similar in character and how they answer questions.
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>>101595914
>>101596000
Mr. Announcer guy is too cool to have his spotlight taken.
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>>101596143
No. Uziga Waita. Fucking casual hentai users.
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>>101596100
>It feels kind of weird to ask if you remember, but it seems as though you have forgotten a good amount of characters... (laugh)

I swear man, Toriyama must be having the time of his life screwing with us..

he's not really senile is he? ;_;

>>101596125
my sides
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>>101592757
>bring Piccolo back

He's been dead for more than a year, so no.
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.>>101596431
>he's not really senile is he? ;_;
No. He made the manga helped with anime and other stuff and simply moved on. He doesn't read the manga, watch the anime all the time. He simply moves on, before he helped with BoG he read the entire Manga because he didn't remember a lot of details certain characters.
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>>101596579
Namekian dragon doesn't have limits like the Earth one does, does it?
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>Why doesn’t Kuririn have a nose?
>Hmm… (long silence). Kuririn has a physical idiosyncrasy that allows him to breathe through his skin.

>Why are there seven Dragon Balls?
>It’s simply because there’s those eight balls in Hakken-Den, and I’d hate for it to be exactly the same, so I had there be seven.

this nigga here
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>>101596773
Toriyama is great to bad he's so private would love to see him do Q&A with fans. They would probably rage with the answers they get.
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>>101596773
Toriyama is based as fuck.
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>>101596768
you can only revive one person at a time, but Bulma has no way of knowing where new namek was.

Funny side note is that Goku should've gotten his free "pass" visit in Future Trunks timeline so he could've helped.
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>>101596431
Less senile than toei's staff, that's for sure. For example, why the hell do they insist on forgetting gohan's most powerful forms? They even had to recolor that scene where he and mr.Buu are thrown around.
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>>101596864
>but Bulma has no way of knowing where new namek was.
Baba calls King Kai, King Kai tells her.

It isn't very complicated, if they needed to do it they easily could.
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>>101593622
>Not reading Dragonball Multiverse

C'mon man
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>>101596940
ithat's also true, there's plenty of options.

>>101596869
they also never colored Korin the right color, for better or worse, he's supposed to be blue.

and isn't this just a mind fuck? You can't bring people back to life, but you can make a dragon that can?
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>>101597202
>Reading that fanfic shit
Hell no.
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>>101594197
Why not? The Bardock movie, alone, was actually pretty dark. The most sympathetic character has killed more people than Hitler, and any section of the universe under Frieza was pretty much a hell hole.
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>>101597233
It's not unnatural for a magical creation to be more powerful than the creator (think Buu). Elder Kai even said the Dragon Balls are supposed to be used to further the Namekian knowledge of the universe, not how Goku uses them.
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>>101597240
>The most sympathetic character has killed more people than Hitler
So, one?
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>>101597202
shame on you.

though I always love when people have Krillin doing cool things.

>>101597240
the whole point of those movies is to show the dark before the light.

Even then it was about the hope that freeza would fall and Goku would win.

I get what you're saying, but an entire dark series of dragonball kills the spirit of it. I'm sure people would enjoy it, but I personally wouldn't.

That's all I'm saying.

Also
>Bardock
>most sympathetic

Lel I feel more sorry for Kami who sat in the same spot waiting for someone to come get him for 50 years.

>>101597351
fuck, I'm dying.
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>>101593511
Do you seriously think Dragon Ball's dying anytime soon? There's a far, far better chance that people will spontaneously forget about Fist of the North Star, and there's no way in hell that's going to happen, either. I wouldn't be even vaguely surprised if people were still reading it a century from now.
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>>101572608
Toei ruined its chance with Saint Seiya after the omega crap.
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>About how many of Freeza’s race are there? Are they quite thriving, with a big population?
Freeza is what you might call a mutated life-form. Strictly speaking, Freeza’s father is a mutant with an abnormally high battle power. And, born from his father alone4, still in strong possession of the mutant traits, was Freeza.

Accordingly, even saying “Freeza’s race”, these two are the only ones who possess an abnormal [level of] battle power and cruelty.

So Freeza's race and the Ginyu force are all mutant aliens...

wow.
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>>101598209
>Cooler doesn't exist
Wait, was he canon or not?
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I'll never understand why people care and can argue about the plot of freaking Dragon Ball.
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>>101598267
it's fun because most of the explanations for things are hilarious.

>>101598260
nah, he couldn't fit in the timeline
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>>101598383
>he couldn't fit in the timeline
Yes he could. Shortly after Goku comes back and they start training for the androids.

The only real issue is "Why didn't Goku go SSJ right away?"
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>>101598523
I guess so, but Goku's struggling is what makes the movie stupid
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>>101598523

Cooler fitting in the timeline, you would have to add Meta-Cooler and there and he further contradicts much other stuff, as he takes place in a pre-Cell Tournament, post-Android tense.
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>>101598260
What if Dragon Ball happened in a world between the movies, the manga and the anime?
Kinda like Macross
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>>101599063
Goku is an idiot. But yes I understand what you're saying.

>>101599116
But why can't Cooler alone be canon while ignoring Meta Cooler?
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>>101599244

>early 2000's
>remember getting into arguments with friends over "Do You Remember Love?" takes place in Macross

Those were the days.
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>>101599288
>Goku is an idiot.
>implying he's not smart as fuck

Don't even know where this misconception comes from, Goku is anything but stupid.
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>>101599288
>But why can't Cooler alone be canon while ignoring Meta Cooler?

You just can't pick and chose what aspects of a certain character is canon or non-canon. If you want to add Cooler, you got to add Cooler into the whole mix. Meaning there's no room for Meta-Cooler.

Hell, their fight with Meta-Cooler would end up taking place the same week they fight Broly.

What the hell were they thinking back then.
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>all of my friends who saw battle of gods hated it because of vegeta dancing
>they said it ruined his character and that it wasn't the vegeta that almost kills goku and gohan back in the saiyan saga
>people seriously expect a character to stay the same forever
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>>101599521
>What the hell were they thinking back then?

japanese jews were trying to get those shekkels

You have to ask what they were thinking with Tree of might and Worlds strongest. Those were two giant clusterfucks.

>>101599623
Did they not get that Vegeta was trying to save everyone, including his wife and kid?

And how can they say that's out of character if he's never been in that situation before? His breaking point being when Bulma was hit felt in character to me.
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>>101599623

>a character's who is so arrogant that he never hugged or said "I love you" to his son once in the many years the kid was alive
>more than happy to sell his soul for power if it meant killing Goku
>person who was super hesitant on even saving the world with Goku to begin with

>in the span of maybe 2 years he sheds his Saiyan Pride to do a stupid dance infront of everyone

You know.
Battle of the Gods might had to try to be more DB, but it shows how "well" DB's humor translates to Z, aka, not at all.
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>>101599427
You know what we mean. He's a battle genious with wisdom beyond even what some Gods understand, but he's still a hick raised in the mountains.

>You just can't pick and chose what aspects of a certain character is canon or non-canon.
But one fits perfectly in the timeline and another is impossible.
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>>101599776
Did you miss Vegetas speech during the Buu fight? If anything, knowing Goku would be willing to do that and respecting Goku made it easy for him to do.
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>>101599813
>He's a battle genious with wisdom beyond even what some Gods understand, but he's still a hick raised in the mountains.

He's smart even outside of battle though, once he learns stuff he picks it up quickly.

>>101599776
>a character's who is so arrogant that he never hugged or said "I love you" to his son once in the many years the kid was alive

Do you know what arrogance means?

>person who was super hesitant on even saving the world with Goku to begin with

That was filler. Once Vegeta realizes that Goku isn't joking about Buu, he starts trying to fight.

>in the span of maybe 2 years he sheds his Saiyan Pride to do a stupid dance infront of everyone

it was keep beerus entertained or die.
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>>101569916
This could be the greatest love story ever told
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>>101581917
How the fuck is Turles related then?
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Battle of Gods was the best DB movie ever.
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>>101594060
>aaaand he's back 10 episodes later
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>>101601994
so? you didn't know that when you first saw it.

just like this scene



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