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Which is superior, /a/?
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They're both bad, but the bottom one is still a lot better.
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Well the top one is not done yet and is not a mech series so why are they compared?
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I have fun watching TTGL more than KLK but that doesn't answer your question.

I wonder how to answer our question.
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>>101566210
TTGL Episode 16 Simon was in jail and partying it up with Viral for beating aliens so hard they blew up parts of their city as a "prophecy" began to come true.

KLK Episode 16 was aliens are clothing trying to manipulate human evolution and MC being shit as usual with a dose of more nothing happening.
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TTGL had a better first act.

I doubt the rest of Kill la Kill will be as awful as post-timeskip TTGL.
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I like both, but I enjoy Kill la Kill more than Gurenn Lagann. Maybe because of that OST.
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>>101566393
>KLK Episode 16 was aliens are clothing trying to manipulate human evolution
Confirmed for superior
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Both are great and have their merits.
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>>101566411
IMO neither of KLK's openings rate over Sorairo Days, but Sanbika is on par with Happily Ever After, and I definitely prefer Shin Sekai Koukyougaku over Minna no Peace.
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TTGL, which isn't saying much considering its a 6/10 series carried only by the fact that its super robot.
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TTGL at least had a point about spirals which was inspiring for kids.
KLK just meaninglessly wanders around not even trying to find it's own theme.
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KLK wishes it was TTGL.
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Both are overrated as shit, but Gurren Lagann is actually good with a constantly moving plot, whereas KlK is repetitive garbage that goes nowhere. So TTGL.
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anyone who says KLK has shit taste.

that's just a fact.
such an awful opinin makes my forehead furrow.
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>>101566576
Self-control, forgiveness, not becoming obsessed with revenge, and most of all letting go.
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ITT: Nostalgiafags; old anime is always better than new anime, no matter what.
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>people passing judgement on an anime that's only 2/3rds of the way over
ffs
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>>101566642
oh look an opinionated tripfag

never see those!
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No contest TTGL is more fappable.
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>>101566677
>Self-control, forgiveness, not becoming obsessed with revenge, and most of all letting go.
Ryuuko literally just slashes everything in her way. That's like saying SAO has an underlying theme. It doesn't. It's just "kill x to save the day".

>>101566701
ITT: Newfags; new anime is always better, and anyone who disagrees is a nostalgiafag.

>>101566710
Who are you quoting?
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With all those people comparing the two shows I tried to watch TTGL. It was extremely boring.
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The problem with KLK is that nothing happens.
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>>101566715
stop sucking my dick, kid
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>>101566779
>Ryuuko literally just slashes everything in her way. That's like saying SAO has an underlying theme. It doesn't. It's just "kill x to save the day".
I'm not sure if you're trolling or literally this retarded, but it's disheartening imagining browsing a board with someone this fucking dense and missing the obvious point that much.
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>>101566715
oh look an opinionated anon who would rather meta-post than try to actually have a discussion

never see those!

oh wait that just means you like KLK, heh. I should really resist the urge to reply rationally to the mentally slow
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KLK hasn't even finished yet and it's way more enjoyable than TTGL.
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>>101566779
>ITT: Newfags; new anime is always better, and anyone who disagrees is a nostalgiafag.
Most of my favorite shows are from the 00s, I'm not new at all, and you are an idiot. That "new anime are shit" thing is just pissing me off.
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>>101566779
>kill x to save the day
>implying that's not the entire subtext of Gurren Lagann
>there's even an entire story arc of "Simon you can't just kill x to save the day all the time."
>it ends with Simon killing x to save the day to prove the more level-minded wrong
>the series ends with "SIMON YOU CAN'T KILL X TO SAVE THE DAY ALL THE TIME. YOU WILL DESTROY THE UNIVERSE."
>Simon proceeds to kill x to save the day
>"Humanity isn't that stupid, lol"
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>>101566824
>m-muh deep themes!

SnK has deeper themes that KLK
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Kill la Kill isn't even over yet.
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TTGL is better, except for those godawful episodes right after the timeskip.
Thankfully it redeemed itself in the last few episodes.

I hope that Kill la Kill gets exponentially better just as TTGL did once Simon got out of jail.
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>>101566880
It was over as soon as episode 4 came out.
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>>101566861
Simon couldn't kill x to save his waifu, though.
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Every episode of KLK is like episodes 4-6 of Gurren Lagann.
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>>101566816
Which is sad, considering now that things are somewhat happening, it's getting worse
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>>101566905
I could say the same thing about TTGL.
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KLK is for retards and TTGL is for children. Pick your poison and chug it until your throat burns.
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>>101566919
That's because he accepted that killing x would wreck the universe and won't solve all his problems.
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>>101566816
This. A good metaphor is TTGL is more like a marathon, it's always moving forwards. Kill la Kill is a treadmill, yeah it's technically in motion, but it's not going anywhere.

>>101566824
Sorry, the deep and mature themes hidden in Ryuuko's ass and Satsuki's breasts went right over my head. I'll apologize.

>>101566858
Then stop assuming that everyone who likes one show over another thinks so simply because it's older, newfag.

>>101566861
Sure is a lot of quotes, buddy. Where'd you get them from?

And it's funny, I never said anything about TTGL having a deep plot. You assumed that all on your own.
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>>101566936
TTGL was over at episode 2.
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>>101566210

I'm enjoying KLK, but...there's really no comparison, is there? The only thing KLK does better is fanservice, and that's more a matter of quantity.
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>>101566920
This, it's easily the worst part of Gurren made into a full series,
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Gurren Lagann because it doesn't have Mako
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>>101566957
>quotes
they're implications you dumb fucker
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Can't I like both?
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TTGL
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>>101567039
Back to the >>>/b/
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>>101567039
Sorry, I don't speak meme. It'd be better if you didn't type like a subhuman.
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>>101566986
I would agree with this, nothing in KLK compares to startits Yoko.
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I gotta say TTGL so far.
KLK reminds me of the first few episodes of GL over and over again.
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>>101567072
>implying I've been anywhere near /b/ since 2008
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>>101566210
TTGL is way more memorable than KLK. I don't understand why people hate the two series, though. I understand hating the fans, because they're simply terrible.
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>>101566210
gurren lagann only turned really bad towards the end.
klk was horrifyingly bad from the very beginning.
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TTGL had the better girl.
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>>101566701
no, klk is just bad.
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>>101567092
but then it would be solid
and klk is nowhere near solid
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Come back again when one finishes.
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TTGL is basically what KlK wants to be.

>>101567275
Kill la Kill is already finished. Just rewatch one of the episodes a few extra times, since it's literally the same shit every week.
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so when did /a/ drop this turd?
ep6 here.
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>>101567362
Dropped it at 5, then picked it back up, then dropped it again after 14, and now picked it the fuck up again. The plot actually started happening
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>>101567362
After the timeskip.
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one isn't finished yet

I didn't like lagann till the time skip
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simon is just a better MC.
in every way possible.
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>>101567362
Dropped at 8 but picked back up earlier this week. Glad I did because it's actually getting decent.
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KLK by a longshot so far. TTGL didn't have a fraction of as many interesting characters and was even worse paced. And unlike TTGL, KLK hasn't blown it's load in the first half, so the second half might actually be interesting.
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Gurren Lagann, it's not even a contest.

To be fair though, I don't think Kill la Kill is trying to be Gurren Lagann in any fashion, like everyone assumed it was. It's just a goofy battle shounen.
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>>101567499
>TTGL didn't have a fraction of as many interesting characters and was even worse paced.
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>>101566210
TTGL by a mile. It's kind of sad considering KLK was hyped up to be TTGL 2.0 before it aired.
Then again, nearly all of KLK has been over-hyped disappointment.
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Why is the music in KLK so fucking good? It just keeps getting better. The new song that's been in the last two episodes around when Nudist Beach explains shit is amazing.
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>>101567963
>The new song that's been in the last two episodes around when Nudist Beach explains shit is amazing.
Pretty sure that was just Suck Your Blood, which has been used multiple times.
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>>101568022
No.
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>>101567362
Never.
I'll still keep watching because I'm can enjoy myself no matter how retarded it gets.
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>>101566817
>stop sucking my dick, kid
Dominance asserted, anonymous imageboard shown its boss.
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>>101568022
>>101568056
here.
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>>101568499
Okay, yeah. I rewatched that scene, there were actually a handful of new songs. I don't think that creepy one that was used when explaining COVERS and the origin of life fibers has been used yet either.
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>>101566817
Your opinion is overstated, TTGL is only slightly better than KlK, and it's second half sucked major balls.
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KLK, TTGL was always kind of shitty but got particularly bad after the timeskip. KLK is actually enjoyable to watch.
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>>101566210
I'll wait until the show is over before judging it. From an animation and technical standpoint, so far TTGL. Trigger just isn't as talented animators (right now, they are still new and learning) as Gainax was.
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I prefer KLK's characters but I thin TTGL had the better plot.
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>>101566210
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>>101566210
>Two different series

Yeah,this is a bait thread
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>>101566858
>ITT: people judging an overhyped incomplete series with another overhyped series that ended years ago

Yes,you are nostalgiafags.
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>>101569570
>comparing two anime is bait
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>>101569722
"Nostalgiafag", the only argument Kill la shit fans can come up with for people who like TTGL better.
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>>101566854
you are a faggot, and you should feel bad about how much of a faggot you are.
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>>101569778
Gurren Lagannfags arguments wouldn't be automatically invalid if they at leas have the common sense to wait until KLK fucking ends.

That KLK might end up bad or good,it doesn't matter,you are still comparing a complete work with specials and movies with another that hasn't even finished.

If you can't even understand that,then you guys simply come as nostalgiafags.
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>>101567113
>implying /a/ isn't literally right next to /b/
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>>101570024
Okay, lets compare it with the same episode. I ay that TTGL is a lot better than kill la kill at episode 16 because the story actually progress.
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>>101568022
>>101568056
>>101568499
Takarada's track is also missing from the currently available soundtrack.
Which is a shame because it's easily my favourite cue so far, with Nonon's theme behind.
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>>101572743
same
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Ttgl is a top three anime of all time
Kill la kill is good but nowhere near that level. Maybe if the pacing of each episode and the pacing of the overarching story were more in sync
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They're both better than the shit half of /a/ watches
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TTGL is the most underrated anime while Kill la kill is the most overrted anime. Just look at /a/ if you even mention TTGL they will say that you have shit taste while if you mention Kill la Kill /a/ will say that you have good taste and will force you to make that Kill la Kill is AOTS/AOTY.
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>>101574523
The same people who trash ttgl hate klk
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>>101574523
It's the other way around
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>>101574614
Fuck no. I like TTGL but I hate klk.
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>>101566210
>comparing series instead of just enjoying them
>fabricating conflict where there is none
>le shit

immediate downward spiral to shit-thread guaranteed.
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>>101571613
What exactly progressed? The entire show up till that point was just the Gurren Brigade's journey to Tepplin to beat the spiral king. It's like if KLK had never introduced Nui and Revocs, and Ryuko would have just killed Satsuki after the elections and that was that. Which, is actually what a lot of people's original predictions for the show were, back when everyone thought it was a monster of the week show.
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>>101574737
There is conflict. Some people that liked ttgl hate klk. Why you ask? Because trigger keep breaking their promise about a more over the top anime than ttgl while all we get is about an angst girl with sexualize fight scene.
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I really liked TTGL

KLK is okay. Then again I almost never watch anime so what do I know
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>>101574871
>Kamina dead
>Meeting nia
>Overcome depression
>Gaining allies
>Actually defeating one of the boss
>Forshadowing

What is the progression of Klk in the last 16 episodes again?
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>>101575208
It's comparing a journey to a destination and KlK is set up for a completely different destination. The ride is little more than a wildly fun afterthought.
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>>101566210
both had budget animation at episode 4...

coincidence?
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>101575208
>dad dead
>Meeting Mako
>Overcome embarrasment
>Gaining life fibers
>Actually defeating four of the boss
>Forshadowing
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>>101575354
But the whole 16 episodes of klk has budget animation.
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>>101566393
You forgot to mention that the main antagonist of KLK got molested by her mother in a bath in episode 16.
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>>101574977
>angst girl

Ryuko has to be one of the least angsty girls I've seen in this show.Episode 11 and 12 were pretty much all is there to Ryuko angst and still

Also:

>Implying Simon wasn't full of angst over Aniki
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>>101575438
no it didn't

it had varying degrees of it, 4 being most noticeable and funnier
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>>101566210
I like Kill la Kill but this isn't even close.
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>>101575208
Just a question: whi really gave actual fuck.about the beastmen commanders aside Viral? Or about the Gurren Brigade aside of Kittan or Rossiu?
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>>101566408
>post time-skip awful

the shittiest of tastes
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>>101566854
How is your taste so consistently terrible. It's actually miraculous.
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>>101575398
>dad dead
That doesn't cojnt because her dad is already dead before the anime even started
>Meeting Mako
Worst meeting ever
>Overcome embarrasment
To gain more power and does nothing to furthering the character
>Gaining life fibers
It does nothing more than just to get a power up
>Actually defeating four of the boss
She did nit actually defeat them
>Forshadowing
Life fibers are alien is not a forshadowing
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Kill la Kill is fun but not as epic as Gurren Lagann.
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>>101567072
How new are you?
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>>101574977
So TTGL didn't have angst and sexualization? The only conflict is what you fabricated. You mean Simon wasn't a piece of shit and Kamina wasn't a 1-dimensional inspiration plot device until FLASHBACK he felt Simon was his foundation all along? Angst boy and manlymanfightscene. Aliens? Look I can do it too. Just because you liked the tropes in TTGL doesn't make them not tropes, and tropes don't exist for you to pretend they are inherently criticisms. Did you forget episode 4 of TTGL?

Kill la kill is over the top in addressing issue of shame and human nature; it extrapolates them to aliens and the conquest of clothing. TTGL deals with Simon's growth as a boy to a man, and extrapolates them again to fucking aliens and dimensions/breaking your dimensional limits. But whatever, congrats on not liking thing. I hope you find many friend on /a/ who also dislike thing and maybe you can have some good fun you didn't have while watching thing.
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>>101567143
/a/ hates popular things after a given amount of time.

I could see why people dislike both but I find it difficult to imagine people legitimately dismissing the quality of TTGL.
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>>101575807
This.

It also works as GL is epic but not as fun as KLK
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>TTGL episode 16
Theme established and developed, met a bunch of main characters, important character died, protagonist completed a meaningful character arc, met his love interest, defeated a chain of antagonists and the villain. Many great moments and quotable lines.
>KLK episode 16
nothing has happened, flat characters, no memorable moments
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>>101574523
This is only the case for /a/ though. TTGL is one of the greatest of all time.
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this is one of the best containment threads I have ever seen

now back to my clean KLK thread
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>>101566408
But post-timeskip TTGL was what catapulted it to greatest of all time considerations.
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>>101575713
Who was even Cytomander, like I'm serious I can't remember anything about him other than he had an airship and instead Simon "fought" Viral that episode, and Cytomander just sorta dies off camera or something.
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>>101566411
But Gurren Lagann's OST was much better than Kill la Kill's.

It might even been its strongest point.
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KLK is fun
the fags who try to shit on it are just idiots who hyped it up to be the next TTGL and are now butthurt they donĀ“t get the next ebin galaxy throwing robo festa
i like to laugh at those idiots
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>>101576172
I was hoping for the next TTGL upon onset but have settled with what Kill la Kill is by episode 4.

At that point it was apparent that it wasn't going to reach anywhere near the greatness of TTGL but it's a fun ride nonetheless.
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>>101575944
Leeron is fun enough by himself.
I don't know if we can truly compare the two seeing as KLK is not finished yet.
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>>101566957
>TTGL is always moving forward
>one of the most important themes was Simon returning to being underground and imprisoned when Kamina dies and when people lose faith in Kamina
>implying anything ever moves forward when Simon returns to being a vagrant and spiral nemesis is only held off
>reactionally assuming fanservice is incapable of communicating themes
>not understanding quotes
>reddit tier image

[x]beta
[x]idiocy
[x]shit taste
The holy trinity. Are you /a/'s savior?

Oh and I find TTGL and KLK equally enjoyable
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I felt for the main characters in TTGL. It might have been style over substance but there was some real heart to it. Plus there was actually a sense of danger, even if MC had the best mech ever.

I couldn't care less for the characters in Kill la Kill. I only like the Elite Four and Nui and even then I don't think I'd care if anything actually happened to them.

Kill la Kill is an alright show though, nice to watch every week for a bit of craziness.
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>>101575878
Wow, its like you didn't even read what I post. I said sexualize fight scene not just sexualization. All the fight scene in klk so far all of it is sexualize. Its like they think thay can't make good show without trying to sexualize everything. Being a piece of shit doesn't mean its bad. A lot of people are shit. If they show that Kamina wasn't a 1-dimensional inspiration plot device even in the flashback it meant he isn't. I will rather take manlyfightscene than sexualize one. Just when in my post did I say think of them not tropes. Oh episode 4 with the different style of animation. What is actually wrong with it beside the animation.
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>>101576464
I wouldn't even say it's style over substance. The substance was definitely there but a lot of it definitely got lost from how goddamn stylish it was.

I'd definitely agree that Kill la Kill really needs to do a better job in cultivating attachment to the characters.
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KLK anime of the year 2013 attack on titan 2nd
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Definitely TTGL.
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>>101566210
Fuck off, IRC
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>>101566210
I will now state my opinion, so if /a/ attacks me for it, then that's ok with me.

TTGL > KLK.

>Better OST.
>Themes that I can better relate to (dealing with the death of a loved one, self confidence, becoming your own person, etc, etc).
>Expansive varied universe.
>Personal growth of the MC.
>Robots.
>Giant robots.
>More robots.
>Leeron.
>Manly combining.
>Lazengann's design was great.
>Lordgenome's role of "don't cause problems kids, or the moon will fucking kill us."

Just what I like I guess.
/m/ out
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>>101576583
What characters were there in TTGL besides the main set of Simon, Nia, Rossiu, Viral and Anti-Spiral (who only physically appears in the story on the second to last episode)? The whole gurren brigade was a ghost ship of non characters, Kittan whose basically the second in command does nothing for the entire show and his only redeemable scene is his own death. The E4 of TTGL were all throwaway villains that didn't amount to anything more what the two-star presidents were in KLK, and the second half consists of fighting Gundam Seed-esque battles with geometry while Rossiu complains a lot. Lord Genome himself has about as much screen time in life as Maiko.
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TTGL.

Can't wait till March comes and this small forced hype for KlK ends. Trigger can go back to the drawing board and analyze why KlK never even reached an ounce of the success TTGL did and they can try harder next time.
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>>101575354
KLK episode 4 was at least entertaining, despite the shit animation. Everything about episode 4 of Gurren Lagann was terrible. Even the voice acting sounded off. That episode had less to do with budget and more to do with the shitty guest director.
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>>101575713
>Or about the Gurren Brigade aside of Kittan or Rossiu?
I do. RIP in pieces Zorthy, Kid, Iraak, Maaken, Jorgun and Balinbo.
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>>101576942
You try to remember the name of a chracter that you haven't see in 5 years. So you think team rocket style villain is better. The second half is about believing in something and never give up even against a being that is on a whole different level than you. Rossiu onlh complain in the begining near the end he also start believing in simon.
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>>101576317
>>one of the most important themes was Simon returning to being underground and imprisoned when Kamina dies and when people lose faith in Kamina
>>implying anything ever moves forward when Simon returns to being a vagrant and spiral nemesis is only held off
You're the idiot here, holy shit.
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>>101566854
Sasuga Lelouch
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>>101566210
The one without the JPG artifacts.
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>>101575713
>Giving a fuck about rossiu
>2014
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>>101566408
>awful post-timeskip

Are you new ? Is it how kids are "trolling" those days ?
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>>101567597

>le ebin reaction face not even animu related

Get out. Now.
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>>101576464
It was the other way around from me.

The only ones I cared in TTGL were Simon,Viral,Nia and Kamina/Kittan to a lesser extent.
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Despite the obvious bait, I've just recently watched TTGL and then started KLK right after, so I don't have nostalgia blinders on.

TTGL was great, and I loved how big the fights got towards the end. However, I never really liked any of the characters besides Simon, Yoko and Kamina. I don't remember any of the nameless crew aboard the ship besides the two buff twin guys, and I never liked Rossiou since he was introduced. The plot sped forward, however.

For KLK, the plot is just beginning. I enjoyed KLK up until this point despite the strange pacing just because it fleshed out the characters very well and I am much more attatched to all of the characters in the KLK universe as opposed to just the main 3 or 4 like in TTGL. I enjoy a more character driven show compared to a plot-driven one, and to me, KLK delivers on that front.

This is my opinion, and I'll probobly get shit talked by the people with nostalgia blinders, but then again, this is basically a shitty containment thread to over something popular, so that is to be expected.
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Wouldn't it actually make sense to wait for one of them to be finished before comparing them?
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>>101576162
no it's not
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>>101576434

So KLK is far superior ?
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>>101570024
sorry excuses
>That KLK might end up bad or good
so you can't tell right now wether it's bad or good?
you arguement would maybe work if we were at episode 2-5.
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>>101577288
You are one of the few exceptions,it seems.

But that doesn't change the fact that those were just almost background characters that could have use a lot more work.
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>>101578485
If you want. Kill la Kill is good at now. This is well-paced and rythmed, every characters has some personnality, there is numerous references (with names, design, wordplay). Those 15 first episodes well introduced the world and the characters, and now, this is getting serious.

yeah, kill la kill is good. Better than all shit show you all probably worship such as code geass, steins gate or sword art online.
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>>101577898
He did some shit done,son.

He was the Nui Harime of his show.
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>>101578235
It really has nothing to do with nostalgia. TTGL is just better.
It's characters that matter are so much bigger than anyone in KlK that they will be remembered for a very long time to come. Kamina's death is referenced in just about every anime now days. The animation completely destroys this shows. KlK is so fucking cheap that it takes a lot away from the show.
And once again, as generic as it may sound. Nothing ever happens in KlK. It has a continuous story and it's linear. It's inexcusable for nothing but cliche after cliche to happen.
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>>101566210
The one with Satsuki.
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>>101578688
>cliche

there is no such things in klk, anon. You don't even watch the show. Why would you talk about something making your whole post invalid ?
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>>101567362
During Ep5. I watched it 2 years later and then regretted it.
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>>101577096
if it were up to me they can stop making anime alltogether.
take this giant lifeless turd and leave, trigger. just go.
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>>101578688
>Kamina's death is referenced in just about every anime now days.

That's arguable.

Also,of course TTGL has better animation.It was made when Imaishi and co.were at Gainax.They had at least a healthy budget to work with.
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>>101578649
>....and now, this is getting serious.
do you people even listen to yourselves?
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>>101578135
Did you seriously just respond to a four-hour old post to make a worthless ironic shitpost?
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>>101578485
I don't know you dude,but by episode 5 of Gurren I was ready to drop it to oblivion until I forced myself until episode 8.That was the point when it got better to me.I even stayed during the whole time-skip (which was horrible,in my opinion) because of it.

But even I had to wait until the end to give a final opinion.
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>>101579134
uh what ?
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>>101578785
Stop being deluded anon. There is cliches. Like her generic pulling wins out her ass. Before each episode ends you can pretty much guess what's going to happen.
>My best friend turned corrupt
>My friendship with her will bring her back
>I have to fight the elite 4
>beats them in 2 and half episodes with power ups
>Have go get my clothes back
>gets them ease.
>Next episode I fight satsuki
>nothing happens, no characters die and no consequences are reached like in TTGL
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Gurren Lagann by a long shot.
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>>101576434
Pretty accurate, because KLK and MegTen are both edgy as fuck.
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>>101579299
It's... somewhat cute when you try to point out cliches when there isn't any. Best friend turning corrupt is NOT cliche, beat all elite 4 in 2 episode is not cliche, get her kamui that fast was clearly not cliche, and fight satsuki was just natural, and properly foreshadowed, not cliche.

You are trying way too hard.
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TTGL by a million, billion, trillion miles.
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>>101579386
>edgy
>friendship and everything

what ? Are you being fully retarded anon ?
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>>101579134
So what exactly are you trying to imply?

Basically almost all the shit in TTGL was difficult to take seriously as well,but we still called it "serious" because the characters addressed it as such.
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>>101579440
not him but holy shit are you a fanboy faggot.
>my show has no flaws
Fuck off.
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>>101579494
Friendship child rape?
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>>101578688
>Kamina's death is referenced in just about every anime now days
>>>Kamina's death is referenced
>>Kamina's death is referenced
>Kamina's death is referenced
Holy fuck, could you be anymore casual?
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>>101567084
Huh?

I remember episode threads pretty clearly and everyone thought Star Tits was fucking retarded outside the porn it got.
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So far TTGL

By episode 16 in TTGL the unstoppable hype train of bigger and bigger mechs was about to begin.

There is still hope for KLK however
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>>101579440
Not replying to you anymore your "No it's not because I said so logic" is immature as fuck.
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>>101579521
>barhbarh your show is shit barhbarh

cmon, you can do better. There is not that much flaws in KLK, excepted for the awful animation in some episodes.
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>>101567084
Too bad she became irrelevant,especially in the second cour.
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>>101579645
I disagree with both of you faggots, but you are actually doing the same, anon. He is a fucking retarded fanboy, you are a fucking retarded hater.
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>>101579440
Do you not know what cliche means or are you just fucking around?
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>>101579635
>By episode 16 in TTGL the unstoppable hype train

It's funny because KLK still gets massively hyped every week, only to disappoint every single time.
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>>101575977
But there was a memorable moment. At least one you'll remember when you get horny.
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>>101579573
explain
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>>101579655
TTGL has better plot and better PLOT
why is this even an issue
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>>101579796
Nope and nope.
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>>101579750
>being disappointed by KlK
Your taste a shit.
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>>101579766
Not that anon but Ashita no Joe's is a LOT more referenced when it comes to deaths.

Holy shit,Kamina's death itself was a reference to it as well.
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>>101575977
>no memorable moment

Now you are being retarded. The bath scene, ryuuko at the end, and the whole revelations about the plot. Characters are nothing near flat. You are being delusional.
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>>101579766
I'm glad you asked, now you get to learn something.
They have been ALL referencing this scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExHozD7lpDA
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>>101579655
>There is not that much flaws in KLK
The motifs, the plot, the characters, the music, inconsistent art and animation, and let's not forget how nothing of significance happens.
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>>101579947
>motifs
no
>plot
no
>characters
hell no are you retarded ?
>music
no
>inconsistent animation
yeah
>art
hell no
>nothing happens
you don't watch the show
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>>101578688
The characters weren't that memorable to me after watching it a few months ago. I mean, of course, Kamina is somewhat memorable, but in my opinon its only because he died at such a strange time which completely shocked everybody. He's memorable more because of the shock value than his character IMO, although his personality definetly did warrant something for being so outrageous.

The animation is better, of course, because of their budget. More budget = more animators = better animation. KLK is Trigger's first "mainstream" project, so of course they aren't going to have the financial backing to be TTGL levels. Despite it, I don't mind the animation quality, and it's even pretty damn good during fighting sequences and whatnot.

TTGL was also pretty linear. Monster of the week after the first few episode introduction until Lord Genome. They kill big bad, turns out theres a bigger bad, they go after bigger bad with a few twists and turns, like Rossiou being a bitch.
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>>101579910
>Characters are nothing near flat.
Well some are bigger than others, but there's definitely a lack of good loli.
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>>101576923
/m/ hates TTGL, get out impersonator.
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>>101579947
Wow,you are not totally biased towards Gurren Lagann at all,no way...
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>>101580016
>NO! You just didn't watch the show!
Good argument, nigga.
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>>101580016
>There is not that much flaws in KLK
>Someone points them out
>no u wrong
anon pls
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So far I like ttgl better overall, but I find the artstyle/animation of klk to be commendable. Especially considering the budget they've got compared to ttgl.
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>>101580082
Clawshrimpy pls leave
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>>101580151

Something explained without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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>>101580117
>argument
Can you find it in this post ? >>101579947
Because I can't. Why would I argue against someone not arguing in a first place ? This is not how it works anon.
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>>101578657
He's the opposite of Nui, Nui is a plot accelerator, Rossiu just held everyone back with politics throughout most of the second half before "Well of course Ganmen are effective against Anti-Spirals, that's what they were designed for!"
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I prefer klk to gurann... shit just felt annoyingly Japanese lolrandum anime stupid whilst klk feels like a robot chicken anime aka stupid but in a good way
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>>101580151

I will help you brainless american to understand how to argue :

when you point out things, you have to back them up. If I say "I point out that you are a fucking brainless american neckbeard with no job and no future" would it make it true ?
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>>101580231
But there are already 500 posts in this thread explaining how he was right on pretty much all that
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>>101580151
The only legit flaws are the animation and the plot dragging to an extent.

Saying that the characters are bad is just him overstimating his opinions.

How many characterfagging threads were when Gurren Lagann aired,aside of the obvious Yoko porn ones?
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>>101580016
>can't even properly refute any of his points
>says nothing but "t-that's wrong"

I never realized how delusional KLK fans were until now.
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>>101580405

see >>101580231
and >>101580378
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>>101580390

The majority of the post are just people saying "going nuh uh x is better!".
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>>101580390

no ?
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I just finished TTGL a few days ago and I like it a lot more than I do KlK, though KlK could somehow get better so that might change.
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They'll be slightly even if KLK will be able to pull of deaths as touching as in TTGL.

RIP Kittan, Kamina ain't got shit on you.
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>>101580231
Okay then
>motifs
Basically the only lesson that can be taken from it is "being comfortable being naked and shameless makes you powerful". That's a stupid lesson, if nothing else because it was expressed in a stupid way.
>plot
>GASP THE ENEMY
>Fight
>either win or lose and come back in the next episode and win
Only exception is when Nui is involved and even then Satsuki just saves Ryuko anyways. No threat what so ever and nothing ever changes.
>characters
Ryuko is stock "Badass who can beat up any normal person and has to avenge her dead parent/friend/etc. but, guess what, IT'S A GRIL". That is the ONLY reason some are blind to Ryuko being boring as all hell.
Mako is annoying as all fuck.
Satsuki is the typical "anti-hero" with no intent on doing any real harm to anyone but the MC's enemies but still acting like a bitch.
Nui is the only character that does anything worth watching. Maiko too but she's gone.
>Music
I GOT TO FIND OUT WHO KILL MY DAD
>Inconsistent art/animation
Nigga, you have eyes.
>Nothing happens
Even when a dumb ass pull happens like ALIENS and finding out about mommy dearest, there is still no sense of change. I'm impressed as to how they managed that.
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Is like 60% of this thread post-2009 or something?

The main things I remember about TTGL criticism wise was.

>Nia is borderline Mary Sue levels of warping the group and world around her for a while.

>NO ONE besides the first few + Nia makes a lasting impression. NONE.

>Rossiu would be right in a non-hotblooded show.

>2nd half pilot costumes were fucking stupid

>Power of friendship is just replaced by power of JUST willpower

>You can skip 4-6,

>>101579645
>>101579521
>>101579747
>cliche

Not even agreeing with him, but you're all fucking stupid.

You can't be cliche if just about a handful of anime do what you just did.

Like having angst get to your character through something traumatic even though they've been taught to carry on is a cliche because its a constant plot device for slowing down the pace.
Having a psychologically broken main character go through this angst for valid reasons ISN'T cliche because out of so many shows, just about Shinji is the only memorable one I can think of.
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>>101580688
>>101580643
samefag
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>>101580715
Do I really have to answer to this shit ? Or can everyone agree he is just shiposting ?
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>>101580782
top LEL, delusional KlKfags everyone. I can't believe you were shitposting me with that "evidence" bullshit a minute ago.
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>>101580378
Wow, you may want to slow down right there autism master, no need to sperg out over an internet argument like that, and I'm not even american
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>>101580782
Yeah, and again I say good argument, nigga.
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>>101580715

>plot
>GASP THE ENEMY

Stopped reading here, couldn't add more hyperbole without completely making shit up.
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>>101578688
>Kamina's death is referenced in just about every anime now days.

Obvious trolling but...

Do people SERIOUSLY don't know that's a Tomorrow's Joe reference where the ending is that he overexerts himself to death in his final match?

Shit, I barely watched the show but I have the decency to use fucking google.

Heck, that was the referencial symbolism of it. Like Joe, Kamina is not fit to go beyond what he already has, and accepts his death with no regret.
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I can wager that none of the people saying TTGL was bad in this thread were around to watch it in 2007.

The show united /a/ to collectively brick themselves at every single twist where almost every thread was a reaction thread to the show. Even moot added a script to /b/ to change every single post to 'row row fight da power'.

I miss 2007.
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>>101580741
I still remember all the Nia hate (espacially at her introduction because of "muh Kamina") and the Simon bashing because he couldn't get his shit,together.

Hell,some people even compared him to Shinji.
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>>101581010
That isn't even necessary, the series is just better than KLK like most series are. It's a fact.
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I really like Kill La Kill, It reminds me of Saturday morning cartoons I'd watch as a kid. The plot and characters are ridiculous, it's very colorful while remaining somewhat darker in tone.
TTGL was pretty good, I don't think the series are comparable at all though.
One is a mecha-drama and the other is a superhero highschool comedy.
>They're bad hurrrr
These people are just retarded trolls, Compare these shows to a vast majority of animation and they would be objectively better than most. Just because you dislike something doesn't mean it's shit.
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>>101580823
>>101580878

Fine. Let's get started so.

>Motifs
Are you being so retarded that you can't even point out the simple lesson behind that shit ? Thats actually all about moral relativity, and how being above the moral open the horizon of possibilities. Satsuki even clearly explain it in episode 3 and 10. Is kill la kill being too deep for you, anon ?

>plot
how about sanageyama first lose then win ? And are you actually complaining about the main character wining battles ?
Are you complaining about her losing ? What should she do, if she can't win or lose without being a cliche ? Why do you have to be so retarded, anon ? Well, wh>atever.
>Characters
No, ryuuko goal is not avenge her dead parent. There is little plot, and you can't even assimilate it. One more proof you are either retarded or not watching the show.
Mako being annoying is your fucking opinion
Satsuki is nothing typical. She actually is a fucking dictator, just watch the show, the students live miserables lives.
>Music
One track. And that wasen't even bad. And there is a version without the rap. Fuck you.
>Nothing happens
Stop missuse the word asspull. The plot is well designed, and the explaination is quite good.

You are retarded. Stop posting.
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>>101581306
This. I like KlK for different reasons than I like TTGL. I don't really think one is better than the other, but both of them have their strengths and weaknesses.
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>>101581047
He, Naota (FLCL), and Sasshi (Abenobashi) are pretty much built from the same mold though.

Shit, 2.0 was Shinji being Simon. for all the wrong reasons but

>>101581010
FUCKING.
BULLSHIT.

2007 was one of the worst years if you didn't suck TTGL's dick and actually gave Lucky Star a fair go.

Constant trolling. Idiotic fanboy crap. Shonen chapter discussions got shit on just for existing even when they keep to themselves.
SaiGAR was a joke. GETs were a thousand times worse than
>Dubs
And freaking DEATHNOTE had a less obnoxious fanbase that could take criticism.
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>>101581313
>moral relativity, and how being above the moral open the horizon of possibilities.
>Implying the typical good guy vs bad guy isn't a given for all shounen
Does. Not. Count.
>What should she do
To be honest, I don't know how they fail to do it right when literally almost EVERY shounen does it. KLK finds a way to make it bland and unimportant.
>ryuuko goal is not avenge her dead parent
How? All you can say is "Muh I wanna learn more about muh dad", which is still typical as well as the "we never bonded before" theme.
>One track
The whole OST was shit, it's just that one was funny and terrible.
>The plot is well designed
Top kek, no it's not. There isn't a single instance of good story telling in the plot.
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Did you receive this week Trigger newsletter yet or is it just me?
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>>101580394
not him, but from what I remembered
>died a virgin
>magical hobo
>so this is spiral power
>Genome was right
>Rossui lied, people died
quite a few of that last one too
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>>101581571
>SaiGAR

Please,don't remind me...
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>>101581690
>moral relativity, and how being above the moral open the horizon of possibilities.
>Implying the typical good guy vs bad guy isn't a given for all shounen
Does. Not. Count.
There is no good guys or bad guys, anon. Everything Ryuuko does, she does it either for her or for her close friends. She doesn't care about the school or the world. Talking about good and bad guys just show to what point you are retarded.
>KLK finds a way to make it bland and unimportant.
No they don't.
>which is still typical as well as the "we never bonded before" theme.
No it's not
>The whole OST was shit
No it was not.
>There isn't a single instance of good story telling in the plot.
Yes there is.

If you want me to argue, argue first. Stop stating things without backing them up. You look ridiculous.
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>>101581571
Holy shit shut up you fucking nerd.
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>>101581956
>If you want me to argue, argue first.
Everything he said outside of his opinion on the ost was an argument. Klk fanbase is delusional.
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>>101581571
>2007 was one of the worst years if you didn't suck TTGL's dick and actually gave Lucky Star a fair go
fucking bullshit
fans of both anime were equally as shitty and would troll each other's threads
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>>101582055
>he can't see the difference between a statement and an argument.

Get back to middle school.
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i haven't watched KLK yet but i'm pretty sure it's better than laggan shit with robots going pew pew pew on space
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>>101582141
KLK is the Naruto of this generation.
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>>101582174
Naruto is the JoJo of this generation.
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>>101581989
>nerd
That's not nice anon, though we're self claimed deviants and little girls in the first place.
>>101582087
Oh, that was just a matter of irrelevance to that post, you're right.
However, half of that was counter trolling counter trolling which in effect is just trolling each other retarded.

Though you're kidding me if you don't remember TTGL wasn't also used as a figurehead to "the killer of moeshit and revival to manly anime."
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Neither are my favorites, but both are enjoyable.

>>101581571
But 2007 was infinity better than it is today.
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>>101582223
>Implying the JoJo has a large, undeserved fanbase of 12 year olds and manchildren
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>>101582174
0/10
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>>101582248
Well that and while the hype post ending was amazing in TTGL, Lucky Channel, cameo jokes, and Anime Tenchou were seen as redeeming.

Oh you can shit on the rest of the show, but real-Mikuru giving the two hosts shit was fantastic.
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>>101582280
well, we are all little girls.
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>>101582378
But KLK is a gateway anime of the worst kind.
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>>101582248
>Though you're kidding me if you don't remember TTGL wasn't also used as a figurehead to "the killer of moeshit and revival to manly anime."
I haven't
In fact, I wish it had done just that
But moe won, I've accepted it and moved on like any reasonable adult
Luck Star is shit
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>>101582443
Why would someone troll that bad ?
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>>101582443
Gateway to what? It's better than the average and leaves you disappointed by the usual. You can't like anything shittier after seeing it.
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TTGL pre timeskip >>> KlK > shit > TTGL post timeskip
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>>101582248
Well,if only TTGL killed moe...but it didn't and here we are.
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>>101582632
>shit taste
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>>101566210
They're pretty much the same shit.

TTGL is actualyl finished though and played out like every other Gainax anime ever made.
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>>101582628
>better than the average
Any honest anon can admit that KLK is worse than Naruto chuunin exam and down.
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Gurren Lagann had direction, was funnier, had the perfect mix of crazy and serious, and it had a consistent theme throughout.
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>>101582443
At least try to pst yhe complete copypasta.

In any case,Naruto is on a whole other of worst gateway,anon.
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>>101582731
>Any honest anon can admit
and therein lies our problem
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Hello. I like both a lot. Bye.
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>>101582731
>any honest anon

Why are people so bad a "trolling" nowadays ?
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>>101566408
>I doubt the rest of Kill la Kill will be as awful as post-timeskip TTGL.
But I like post-timeskip TTGL.
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>>101566210
I prefer KlK by a landslide. It appeals to me more and it's provided the best viewing experience I've had yet.

>>101586822
*post-timeskip TTGL and KlK

I think the best way to describe KlK is that it's set up like TTGL's second half with a fun and likeable cast and a fast pace.



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