I've been losing interest in anime. It seems the only series that I like are the ones that are like Log Horizon, Kyousougiga, and Shinsekai yori. It feels like I can only enjoy 1 series a season or maybe even just 1 a year.
I tried going through my back log but most of it just seems really boring or bad and I drop it anyway.
Am I growing out of anime? I tried watching some western television shows but only a few seem entertaining to watch and I've already finished them or they haven't started the new seasons yet.
>It feels like I can only enjoy 1 series a season or maybe even just 1 a year.
You developed standards.
Watch The Wire, Breaking Bad and more Western shows as you switch to anime classics liek Ashita No Joe, RoV, lotGH, etc.
Trust me, it's worth it.
>Log Horizon, Kyousougiga, and Shinsekai yori
Not OP, but how do you undevelop standards?
>You developed standards.
This sounds about right OP.
When I first got into anime, I binge-watched over 100 shows in a little less than a year. These days? I can barely get myself to watch anything other than some very specific shows that I have hopes for because of animation studio and/or production cast, or shows I know will be down my alley because of their setting/style
Don't worry too much about it, watch what you feel like watching. Live and let live.
>didn't watch an entire series for the last 7-8 months
>finally decide to fuck trying to play vidya (since I can also hardly make me do that) and concentrate on anime
>watch golden time since I love hocchan
>watch the 16 eps while drinking 6 beers
>all nostalgic about watching drama animes
And the next day I watched an episode from like 6 shows, sober, and was disappointed by each on how generic as fuck they are.
ITs fucking terrible how I can tell what will happen before it happens in each shows because they keep following formulas...
Sounds more like you can't stand watching anime anymore and your in denial.
You shouldn't need somebody to tell you not to waste time doing something you don't enjoy. If you actively dislike watching anime then stop. Maybe try some again at a later time to check if you're just burnt out.
You indirectly admitted that anime has no standards anymore...
Alice in Wonderland meets FLCL? Awesome shit.
Interesting take on a Brave New World-esque setting.
Ok, that one is indeed mediocre, but far better than hack or SAO or whatever VR shit other LN/VN and manga came up with.
So yes, he has some standards.
The only anime I enjoyed last year were Yamato 2199, Silver Spoon, Chihayafuru, Kill la Kill, Kyousogiga, Uchouten Kazuko, Inferno Cop, Yami Shibei, Free and uh... I think 2 more.
>Watch The Wire, Breaking Bad and more Western shows
I just finished The Wire literally a few hours ago.
I still think that The Wire >>>> LotGH
Or you've developed a dependency on drinking, you filthy alcoholic.
The Wire > 99% of fiction, imho.
This series is like all of your favourite dieties blessing you while a 10/10 woman is giving you a blowjob.
Anime is shit. Everyone gets tired of it quickly, except the worst retards.
Wire fags are the worst.
The Shield > The Wire
You didnt developed standard, you developed normalfag standard.
You dont watch anime for the plot. I read a book if I were you.
I think you have good taste, and that's the problem. It's just like 3DPD shows, only like 1 or 2 are actually good every year. There's nothing wrong with you, but you should consider finding other some auxiliary hobbies.
Except normalfags like shit like American Idol and CSI. The problem is that he developed elitist standards.
When 95% are essentially the same tropes in some slight variation like all highschool-set series, romcoms, harems, ecchis, action Shounen, DEEP mecha/pseudo-dystopian series then it is no wonder you get tired.
Reason: it is all the same and pretty bad. Why do you think everyone loves Mushishi, bebop, etc.? Because they are not the same tired shit and offer something good.
The best anime are the aniem that don't try to be anime. That is a fact.
Nice hidden rec thread and blog.
Normie, pls, when people are finally learn what they like and what they don't, doesn't make them standarts.
>If you actively dislike watching anime then stop.
There's a difference between disliking all anime and only enjoying a few.
You're not growing out of anime, you just have really bad taste.
Alice in wonderland with no coherent plot with 50% recycled from ovas.
Interesting take on poor pacing and homosexuality.
Its, better therefore not shit. Getting your hand chopped off sure is a relief, I thought they'd chop off your penis.
Some standards barely count. Faggots are praising DBZ while dissing naruto, not a big accomplishment.
>Going full retard
>he doesn't like everything
>he must be an elitist
Watch 100 highschool romcoms back to back.
I dare you.
Let's see if you still like your anime tropes after that.
And I read tons of books, just finished rereading 1984 and now I will read some Dickens.
I enjoy everything in every medium, it's just that i only consume the best 10% and don't bother with all the repititive mediocre stuff anymore.
is the wire actually good?
>watching the same genre back to back
Mix it up a little.
>Ok, that one is indeed mediocre, but far better than hack or SAO or whatever VR shit other LN/VN and manga came up with.
I liked it because of the nostalgia from when I played MMOs with my younger brother. It captured the feeling of it far better than the other "trapped in an MMO" series I've seen.
I was actually following this for a year or so but it started to get really slow and I just haven't picked it back up yet.
Mushishi is standard type of anime called calm buddist, a term of anime which use spirits and japanese lore/legends. Bebop is a standard 80s action anime akin to cobra and lupin.
>There's a difference between disliking all anime and only enjoying a few.
You just pretty much prove otherwise.
Only enjoying few is something normalfags do, never being able to enjoy anything else outside of their comfort zone.
Don't bother with anime if you like only few.
The Wire is 10/10, the LotGH of Western drama series. Scratch that, it is betetr than LotGH.
It is high quality entertainment on par with classics of world literature.
Go watch films
Yes, anime films
Jokes on you, my memory is shit so I can enjoy anything all over again.
I have a feeling you're just being ironic.
>implying I watch haremshit
I am actively enjoying gbf, saki, tesagure, mikakuni and wake up sluts. Why would you even watch something that you hate? Anime is made for degenerates. They will never pander to normalfags.
Stop mentioning the titles you haven't seen. Cobra is much more focussed on the machoism and lacks the melancholic feel behind Watanabe's creation. Lupin is way more focussed on being a fun series.
Watching anything back to back is a guaranteed way to make sick of it. The same goes for food, you eat a lot of eggs and might grow to hate them eventually, unless they are your favorite.
This isn't your blog, retard. Nobody cares about what you like or don't like.
>is the wire actually good?
Yes. I kind of dropped it for a year maybe after the end of the first season. The problem I have is well to put it into words you can understand.
Imagine if you picked the best girl in an anime right? And you know how the best girl never wins? Well, in The Wire there are REAL bad ends. Not just not winning but REALLLY BAD ENDING. I just couldn't take some of those Bad Ends and I had to stop watching it for a while. But after a while I gave it another chance and picked a new Best Girl.
She didn't win either.
The best part is that you never know what's going to happen next. You can sort of guess what some of the characters are planning and see how their ripples in the water will affect someone else. But anyone can have a Bad End at any moment and it's rather refreshing. If you're going to watch it then try to avoid spoilers.
I didnt drink any alcohol for months, I very rarely drink, if anything it'd be weed I'm on to.
Anime is shit, OP. At this point I just watch old shoujo adaptations when I have nothing better to do. Watch Twin Peaks, or something.
BrBa a shit.
Are you being dumb, I'm using them as examples of the type of anime it was modeled after. I'm almost postivie they even lifted a few things from outlaw star manga before sunrise adapted it and the following year.
Serious answer, switch to manga and/or take a break
The Wire is exemplary but that's off-topic
Shit with some funyn scenes in between
>Anime is made for degenerates
The point is, moe, romcom and harem are one of the biggest comfort zones as well. It is as the one I quoted before said: Escapism for degenerates.
So instead of watching stuff that ahs actual quality you indulge in the always the same stuff that is just sugarcoated a bit differently because you are well... sorry to be so harsh: losers.
We are ALL having comfort zones, don't pretend you are better than normalfags or vice versa because they don't indulge in waifu and moe.
And Mushishi, lotGh, etc. are more diverse than all of the typical series you get every season.
it's ok to watch a few series like Saki, but after you saw 50 or so of them you dont need to bother with them anymore because they are always the same.
Thankfully we have 40+ years of aniem and manga on sites like bakabt so even with high standards it'll take a while to run out of shows.
Yeah. Manga isn't as commercial, so you can actually do interesting shit in a manga.
>it's ok to watch a few series like Saki, but after you saw 50 or so of them you dont need to bother with them anymore because they are always the same.
Except there is nothing like Saki. Name another mahjong series that is tanoshii.
>Watch 100 highschool romcoms back to back.
Why you need to watch 100 romcoms?
Why not enjoying some of them, instead of just keep absorbing them like water?
The same can be said about anything, try to read/watch some certain genres and oh my, they all pretty much a same shit.
If you looking only for originality, you will have a lot of problems, but the thing is, some people watching/reading things for the certain things they like, because they love it.
Which I'm sure can't be said about you and a lot of other "searchers of originality".
That's the problem with anime fandom, people keep coming because they think about anime as something special unique, which is just elitistic hipster attitude.
Do this or just switch to manga, OP.
Hox, HappyScans, ForgottenScans and Co. scan tons of interesting stuff every week.
What if you saw 100 crime dramas back to back? What then?
How can be shit, he was the one who pushed mirai nikki.
What if you read 100 doujinshis back to back? What hen?
You get sick of it like anything back to back.
The combination of cute girls and mahjong is rare if we consider all the known series in the West. But the tropes of the girls are just very common.
I admit that Saki is one of the better ones, though.
But let's be honest: Witchcraft Works, IS, Maken-Ki, etc. all these are shows from a genre you can only watch 10 or so from before they start to annoy you by how poorly made and formulatic they are.
I admit you ahve a point. I also try to watch some interesting (at leats to me) mediocre shows along with all the classics, books, Western series and movies I consume. This season there is Hoozuki, Buddy Complex and a few others. All 5/10, standard and not that exciting but enjoyable. But I just can't watch "normal highschool box meets mysterious beauty" harem/ecchi/romcom anymore.
>The point is, moe, romcom and harem are one of the biggest comfort zones as well. It is as the one I quoted before said: Escapism for degenerates.
>So instead of watching stuff that ahs actual quality you indulge in the always the same stuff that is just sugarcoated a bit differently because you are well... sorry to be so harsh: losers.
So you are upset that the medium is being held back because they make it for degenerates? You remind me of faggots crying about about ero is holding back the eroge medium.
If you want them to make more LoGH and anime for you, start buying them or find a new hobby.
It was only interesting to follow with others. Right, so you can only think of one example?
>get bored of watching anime, spend tons of time reading manga
>start to get a little bored with manga, start reading light novels
I've been at it for nine months now and reading 2-3 volumes per week, backlog is starting to get thin. What's next?
Have you seen how much anime has cost? I would buy it if LoGH was cheaper, but at it's asking price I would have to give up an arm, a leg, my house, my dog, my car, and my children.
Way to prove that you didn't even watch the show.
Not that guy but I watched the first episode and, heck a CSI episode seemed much more interesting, nothing note worthy.
How much manga did you end up reading?
>One day when Takashi, a normal highschool boy, meets beautiful and most popular highschool girl; his fate is forever changed as he is the chosen one with a rare power that is destined to change the world.
How many of these can I watch before I kill myself?
>start buying them or find a new hobby.
I do that already. I mostly read manga these days and started to colelct movies, series and other stuff. I also buy 20+ volumes of manga every month.
Wirefags pls. I deal with you enough already even though there are shows that are better than you and you're blind about you're last 2 seasons not being very good.
Normalfag pretty much just read the description and called it shit. If he actually watched it, he would know how the show is basically making fun of the whole manga and anime industry reusing tropes and cliche.
Its elfen lied tier. So that's pretty big discredit.
It's your fault for picking up shows like that even though you know they're going to be bland rehashed garbage.
If you are new to anime, maybe a dozen or so.
The moment you start having some experience you either branch out into manga, other series, classics or you just continue having no standards and watch 30+ of them every year.
If you branch out, a single one per season might kill you.
if not, well... you can't kill what has no life.
Not being that good still means 8-9/10, though.
I can't force you to like it. All I can say is that it's not episodic at all. If you don't like the characters then don't watch it but it's entertaining for me and others to see where different characters end up and how they interact with each other.
In a way it kind of reminds me of LotGH, One Piece, and SSY.
>You developed standards
Elfen Lied was really not that terrible. And so all the other stuff he does aren't huge credits.
>this whole post filled with normalfag shit
Some of us just enjoy things from every genre and like well made things. It's sounds like you either have shit taste and nobody is pandering to you or that you just hate anime now and really need to stop watching it. Either way leave.
> he would know how the show is basically making fun of the whole manga and anime industry reusing tropes and cliche
Like Noucome and every other parody?
That's just liek hipster liking things ironically.
You can only enjoy shit shows because they say "we are ironic" even though they don't ever diverge from the standard formula to show they parody. it is the ultimate excuse for otaku to like shit.
Some shows might not pick up but after a while, I would like to know WHAT is the appeal, what should one look for in it?
>We are ALL having comfort zones, don't pretend you are better than normalfags or vice versa because they don't indulge in waifu and moe.
Exept I'm watching/reading stuff outside of my comfort zone and what a surprise, for the plot characters, things i don't looking in my comfort zone, and be sure there's a lot of other people like this.
The problem is not even the "comfort zone", but the fact that elitist keep forcing it like everything should be the same, and what is more stupid, when you can have shit like this somewhere else, people keep coming to chinese cartoons, just for this rare shit.
>And Mushishi, lotGh, etc. are more diverse than all of the typical series you get every season
If you would only look for different specifical shows/titles from different genres, sure, they would look "different".
I read all of Bleach, One Piece and Berserk after not having read any of it at all. Finished another 158 series and am following another 307. What irks me about manga and LNs is that finding decent RAWs for a lot of the series I'm following can be hard. Though I guess I can't expect piracy to be easy all of the time.
>Not being that good still means 8-9/10, though.
I'm not saying it's bad. I actually think it's quite good, but I just hate faggots that parade it around like it's the greatest thing ever created and is responsible for every good thing after it. It's the same with Eva and Citizen Kane.
Its cause you're a casual OP. Most people never delve into things like learning director credits or sakuga.
I enjoy idol anime, highschool settings, harems and co. if they good. Problem is, they aren't most of the time. And the industry is producing way too much of it now. No problem for me, I have a big backlog. But you can't just ignore that quality was better in 2006 or 2007. or rather: it was more diverse.
The entire show is just politics. The politics of drug sellers dealing with the politics of the police force, dealing with the politics of the city government, dealing with the politics of the media, etc
>ITT people who shouldn't be on /a/ are on /a/ for some reason
Anime is shit and is made for people who like eating shit. Same goes for /a/. Try something more fitting for a normalfag and stop shitposting.
>or rather: it was more diverse.
Lies. Lies. Lies. There are more anime coming out now than ever and there's plenty of good things. You're just choosing to ignore them or you just don't really like anime anymore.
>If you branch out, a single one per season might kill you.
This, really, I usually go through the anime charts, read the descriptions and then download the first 3 episodes of everything I'm willing to give a chance to.
The ones with these descriptions....these days I cringe just by reading them
I almost fell off my chair reading this:
In this modern magic action story, Takeshi Nanase is an ordinary high school boy who has a somewhat dark past. Due to certain circumstances, he formed a "fake" couple with his childhood friend Kurumi Isoshima, but otherwise, he lives a normal life. However, one day, he comes across a girl named Mui Aiba, in a uniform he has never seen before, collapsed on the school campus. This encounters changes Takeshi's destiny completely. Mui tells Takeshi that she is a magician, and she apologizes, for she turned Takeshi into a magician, too. What Takeshi once knew as one world is actually two — the world where magicians live and the world where humans live.
>Like Noucome and every other parody?
No, dumbshit. It is like Joshiraku. I guess any shows with girls talking to each other can be classified under moeshit by your standard.
I am here since 2007, mostly in manga threads. I am not leaving and I certainly wont lower my standards.
>not knowing chink
>missing out on so many chink scans that are easily obtainable
Jesus Christ, now I know you definitely didn't watch Tesabu.
Have you seen all of lum bum? What is your favorite oshii film? Wht is the best mecha of the 70s?
>Anime is shit
You should leave with him.
While I do agree anime has turned terrible the recent years, 2013 was by far a better year for anime than 2012. This is a fact.
>it's not shit, it's actually make fun of shit
Just because it's making jokes, it doesn't make it different.
Well it is making fun of all your old adachi manga and anime.
Are all of those chink scans fan scanlations or official? I've found Chinese scans for some series without being able to find nip raes.
Look at the charts of these years. Sure, tons of generic stuff, but look at the other side of the medal: Ergo Proxy, ayakashi, School Rumble, Haruhi, Aria, Gintama, Black lagoon, Black jack, FLAG, NANA, Oban Star Racers, Utawarerumono, honey & clover, Kemonozume, NHK, coyote ragtime show, Red Garden, Death Note, Souten No ken, Geass, hell Girl, GARTENDER
Now, isn't this diverse? And still relatively high quality? 2006 > 2013 in terms of diversity.
Do you think before you type? I know it's a nice little piece of rhetoric to spout, but at least know what you are criticising.
2012 was 3/10, 2013 was a low 2/10
>Ergo Proxy, ayakashi, School Rumble, Haruhi, Aria, Gintama, Black lagoon, Black jack, FLAG, NANA, Oban Star Racers, Utawarerumono, honey & clover, Kemonozume, NHK, coyote ragtime show, Red Garden, Death Note, Souten No ken, Geass, hell Girl, GARTENDER
My fucking sides. Take off your nostalgia googles.
>half of that
Half of these are on nearly all /a/ rec charts and the other ones are pretty good.
Tell me, what is so bad about H&C, NANA, Aria, BL, EP, NHK, DN, Geass and Bartender?
>Sure, tons of generic stuff, but look at the other side of the medal
It's funny because it's like you're honestly describing every year of entertainment ever. Every year has a ton of shit and a ton of good things. It's just people focus on the bad rather than that good everytime.
What is your highest rated year and what made it good?
My life involves living alone and watching stupid anime shows so I can spend my decent salary on stupid shit.
Sometimes I feel like I'm 'growing out' of anime, but fuck it, I'm going to have fun with it, even if I'm not enjoying it.
If you can't do the same, just get a new hobby. It's not difficult.
Sage for blogging.
OP here I'm done with anime. I gave one last chance to this utena you all spout about, and I can't go on after 10 mins, more cliche trope shit. I'm done. Also, wow, my thread is exploding.
Ok, then let's make a list of 2013 anime.
We had more anime than ever, this true. But what was outstanding?
Going by this >>101559034
we can note: Shingeki, Free, Kyousogiga, Kill la Kill, Chihayafuru, Silver Spoon, Eccentric Family. What else?
There are plenty of stuff from the past 2years better than them.
Read more completed shit.
1.You spend too much time with /a/, it's full of drama queens and pseudo-critics who never can agree on anything, unless it's some obscure shit.
2.Back then you were watching stuff as completed series, now you enter ongoings, and it's quite different from watching on daily/non-stop periods.
3.You are faggot, but that's not a news.
Aku no Hana
You aren't growing out of anime. Anime has just been pretty shitty for the past couple years.
I have to look that up, but I'd agree that mid 2000s and end 1990s had tons of interesting titles from all genres.
Honey and Clover is among the best romance in anime. What is betetr than that? Autism rabu in Sakuraso? Golden Time by that Toradora hack? I am curious.
"He considers it a Greek tragedy instead: Aeschylus updated, with urban institutions as the Olympian gods, destroying human lives on a whim. "It's the police department, or the drug economy, or the political structures, or the school administration, or the macroeconomic forces that are throwing the lightning bolts and hitting people in the ass for no decent reason,"
1979, but that is because I've seen little anime from that year. Akage no Anne and Rose of Versallis is a particular favorite of mine. If we're going with more than 50 anime I've seen that year, it'd have to be 2007.
>unless it's some obscure shit.
Except that most people don't really watch obscure shit here
WA2 > HnC
HnC2 has a fucking shitty ending.
NANA is just pure shit, I dont know how anyone can actually read/watch it without dropping it halfway.
KlK is a pretty cool homage at Uncle Go and all the other 70s anime. Not for everyone, but a good action title nevertheless.
You mean the show that was so boring most people dropped it after episode 1 or didnt even start it?
A lot of manga have shit endings, the journey was amazing in HnC.
>couldn't even last 10 minutes in utena
You're not growing out of anime.
You're growing out of life.
Golden Time, C3, Samurai Flamenco, KnK, Gatchaman Crowds, Little Witch Academia, StB are all worthy of being on said list comparing it to what you put down.
Wasn't anyone you were responding to, but never going to bother with this ever. If I gave a shit about stuff like that, I would live in the isolation I do.
Anon, you must be growing depressed.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but personally I genuinely enjoyed it. It had a great atmosphere, aside from the odd stupid gag, and it was refreshing in style and plot.
Also that ED. Holy shit.
Golden Time is better than Honey and Clover honestly.
Sometimes I think the only reason I still watch anime is so I can read discussions while lurking /a/. I only enjoy about 1 show per season now and any others I watch are usually background noise.
/a/ and anime has just been with me for so many years I feel like they would disappear if I went away for too long.
I'll never get why you faggots expect people to like Utena, I read the manga and disliked every page of it.
Fucking pleb tastes right there.
>You mean the show that everyone thought was a sequel so they never even picked it up
You fucking child, holy shit.
Did you actually even watch it?
>You mean the show that was so boring most people dropped it after episode 1 or didnt even start it?
>so boring that people didn't even start it
Explain to me how this happens.
>complaining about anime being shit
>didnt even watch it
>Liking Spanish Soap Operas
Now I'm just mad.
>this is the person people were saying has standards and is maturing
LOOK AT IT
It suffered from some writing issues, but it was overall a positive experience, and I'm glad I saw it.
Just because it is college doesnt mean it is good. It's average.
The show that doesnt know what it wants to be? The laziest parody this year?
Kyoani style over substance, even MAL doesn't like it, that's how bad it is.
Shit compared to the original. The MC is bad, plot is meh and it thrives on a few good OST tracks alone.
That one is good.
Aku no hana might be worth putting ont he list though. It was different and tried to do something risky. Also, Inferno Cop. best 3 minute show ever.
You mean Ghost Banri Time?
>I'M MAD BECAUSE MY OPINION ISN'T EVERYBODY'S OPINION
From the sound of it you didn't even watch the show and just judged it on who made it.
WA2 is a motherfucking AOTY.
It might not be OP. It's probably just some uppity cunt.
>actually dropping a drama show for having a light start like 99% of drama
>expecting a drama show to be DORAMA from episode 1
Not that guy, but
>'wow, that looks boring'
>don't pick it up
How else would you choose what to watch each season?
Finish utena for damage control fag.
I don't understand why you would say KnK or StB at all
WA2 IC isn't very good by itself. I've read the VN, and the CC is where the true material finally shines. Still, it is a spanish soap opera through and through. It's a very good soap opera, but it still is one.
3 episode rule for everything, faggot.
>SamFlam "doesn't know what it wants to be"
>If it isn't as good as the original it's shit
>C3 wasn't good
>Knk and StB aren't fun.
By watching them.
>all this butthurt over WA2
Vn fags are even worse than Lnfags or anime-only fags.
Deal with it: you are scum and nobody except you likes your garbage.
Too much shitposting. We need a mod in here to clean up this thread.
3 episodes rule? I ignored "Inari, Konkon, Koi Iroha" when the season started, but after watching 3 episodes yesterday it may actually be my favourite spring series. And I almost missed it!
>not watching the greatest love story ever told
>holding a shitty josei up on a pedestal
If HnC aired now, it is going to be bashed up till high heaven. It is just a slightly better version of autism pet.
>How else would you choose what to watch each season?
By trying absolutely everything.
Unless it's obvious fujoshit.
A lot of those things are just as good as a lot of things you listed on your list. Also you clearly don't even know what you're talking about on half of them and probably haven't watched them.
Exactly, which is why it isn't good.
I hate how all the VN/LN fans always whine when people insult their show.
>>'wow, that looks boring'
>>don't pick it up
Spoken like a true normalfag
>It is just a slightly better version of autism pet.
Second guy you replied to. I was talking about Golden Time.
I watched all of them.
I just don't hink they are good.
Do you have to drag down my credibility because you don't agree with me? bad sportsmanship.
Because there were/are fun.
My dick is fun, wanna play? It's full of joy, I swear.
Anything that turns out to be unexpectedly good will surely get some buzz later on. I usually pick up an extra one or two shows each season because of positive threads. Still, for the most part, you can tell from the charts which shows aren't worth giving a chance.
>I watched the entirety of 7 anime that I didn't like
No you didn't. And you're whole list was opinion based too. I could do the same shit to your 2006 list for most of them.
But there's absolutely nothing outstanding about them
Shut the fuck up kid
There's lots of betrayal and acts of loyalty if you're into that. If not then don't bother.
They are outstandingly fun.
I dunno about that; KnK was exceptionally bad for a KyoAni production.
W-Whip it out first.
That's a terribly weak argument because I personally had more fun with half the anime I watched than with either of those two
And that would mean we both have opinions and neither of which provide a good argument. Because there really is no argument. We're just arguing personal opinions.
And I had fun with them. And I is what matters for what I consider fun or not.
The same goes for you.
What makes you think your opinion matters, bitch?
Silly /a/non -- you don't read Utena, you watch it.
The opinions from non a paying consumer is basically useless.
There's more variety in manga.
It's not but I do enjoy seeing a great bait post.
Even if you describe the series as "fun" you should be able to list some reasons why was it fun. "Just fun" isn't an argument. Watching paint dry is fun. Smelling your socks is fun. Eating shit is fun. You can't say it's not or that I should stop, it's fun after all, right?
Well, why did you want to add them to some other guy's list then?
Aren't most anime adapted from manga?
But I am a paying consumer and I say Mushishi > haremshit.
Source material is superior, no exeception.
>Watching paint dry is fun.
>Eating shit is fun.
You can say that these things aren't fun and that you should stop though. They are objectively bad for you.
You'd be missing an ocean of great manga if you only watch what gets adapted
Then watch it? That silver hair girl and cripple girl sure is moe amirite?
Fun things are fun, that's a law and an indisputable fact.
Because they think their generic shit is good, obviously.
>Source material is superior, no exeception.
>being this big of a pleb
so is watching bad anime
Then some series are objectively bad too.
So what's objectively outstanding about StB or KnK?
Attack on Titan.
Sometimes the anime is just better because of better art, sound track, and production. Also, sometimes a good voice actor can really bring a character to life.
>Anime only fag
>Calling others pleb
Yeah, like SAO and IS because if you look at them with movie theories in mind you notice they are badly paced, developed, etc.
So what's objectively outstanding about Gintama Death Note, Black Lagoon, Ergo Proxy, Nana, Hell girl, Nana, Hnc or Bartender?
His point was, it is all the same shit. Being old doesnt mean it is better.
I'm not an anime only fag. I'm stating a fact that the source material is not always better.
Your new is showing.
They're at least varied in what they are doing, rather than being a solid list of highschool rom-com with a gimmick
That doesn't mean they cover the full spectrum of manga, duh. They only adapt what a) is popular b) might become popular.
Geass is high school. terrorist by night, high school by day. Man I wonder which show did the same fucking thing in 2012.
Death note is high school
Hell girl is high school
Exactly, this was also the point of the list of the initial poster.
And if 2006 is old you are probably underage.
anything past 1995 is new to me, and anything older then 1980 old.
Kyousougiga looks cool, I should get to watching it.
Most of what that guy listed was not "highschool rom-com with a gimmick".
The voice acting was often terrible.
Perhaps it wasn't the actors fault, but whoever told them to SCREAM CONSTANTLY AND SHOUT AND SHOUT BECAUSE DESPAIR MEANS YOU HAVE TO SHOUT.
Fucking awful, it was.
Also the typical 'flash-back to what happened in the last episode because we think you're too stupid to make connections' stuff you find in a lot of shounen was obnoxious and stank of poor pacing, particularly in later episodes.
I'd say the manga (up to where the anime stopped) and anime are on roughly equal footing (just above mediocrity), but it depends on what the viewer values in particular.
>Attack on Titan
DN is in highschool maybe 10% of the time maximum.
Geass' HS setting feels forced and imho this was one of the reasosn why it wasn't that good.
Where are the hs romcoms here?
You faggot should stop acting like self proclaimed critics trying to rate and sort anime based on some objective artistic value or some shit.
Not exactly. One of my friends is 44 and started watching anime in 2005. He considers anything past 1995 to be "old".
What is school rumble?
>I ahve shit taste and don't like the critically acclaimed anime so I insult the critics. Standards are bad because I am a substandard otaku and human scum
This is how I read most of these posts.
Being older doesnt mean it better.
It is hilarious you guys have your nostalgia goggles set on 2006. Year you guys started watching cartoons I take it.
Yeah, I know School Rumble is a romcom but from all these series listed they make up what? Maybe 20% max. Compare this to /a/'s faves in 2013...
Sorry for being not clear in my initial post.
All critics do that. Also, all critics are self-proclaimed.
Being a visual media critic is a stupid profession that should be mocked and shunned and shat on. I can't believe some of them actually get paid for their stupid shit.
/a/'s faves in 2013? Name them. None of them are romcoms.
Visual media is shit for critics, books are not?
Why are movies and anime different?
I read manga since 2001.
Seto no Hanayome. What do you have to say now?
You only say that because most adaptations are poorly made. Last season's adaptation of Yozakura Quartet did very well by the material, I'd argue elevating it above the source.
Exclude all VN/LN adaptions, harems, otaku-reference comedies, series with highschool settings and romcoms. What is left?
Was DN even 10% in highschool? There were maybe 5 or so scenes that happened on school grounds and Light mentioned his good grades a few times, but it was never, never important in any way.
Not part of your conversation, but I agree.
What is keion?
What is hnc?
If you don't find anime that interesting now then you were never doing it right in the first place. It has its limits like any other media and if you are always looking for something on the fringe of those limits only and otherwise hate the medium for being what it always has been, then you have no business here.
Don't blame the medium itself for your inability to understand it as a very relaxed, anti-pretentious expression that does not try to aim for some high arts pedigree. You ought to like moe and fanservice when done right; you ought to be able to turn your analytical mind off and love something simply and purely just for what it is, to love a concept and to be in sync with the author's mindset. People have both thoughtful pretentious sides and sensory hedonistic sides to them, and anime is way way over on the hedonistic side. If that is not your thing feel free to go.
I have walked the path of reading supposedly high form literature and watching plays/operas and rarely was actually entertained. Nearly all writing is so transparent to me that I just don't give a fuck about some fictional scripts beyond the superficial. Real facts get to me, fiction does not no matter who wrote it. It's all the same shit. As a scientist, a medical researcher no less, I do not need to watch or read something supposedly classy to try to feel important, because I already work on a level way above what errant musings and reflecting on other peoples' musings can ever accomplish. I do not respect people who waste their time trying to be the best at mere film or musical or literature consumtion, because all of that is fucking irrelevant to how you stack up in the face of our species. Those baristas who make my coffee can go on pretending to be someone like me for liking things they are told sophisticated men ought to like. Meanwhile I enjoy my moe shows for delivering supersensory inputs without beating around the bushes and wasting my time trying to pose as important.
Mid 2004 to mid 2008 was one of the best anime periods.
Look at the charts and all the classics on there, there is a quantity found ona high level that is pretty rare in the past few years.
Yuri Seijin Naoko-san
>You ought to like moe and fanservice when done right; you ought to be able to turn your analytical mind off and love something simply and purely just for what it is, to love a concept and to be in sync with the author's mindset
Funny how a lot of the older romcoms like Yawara managed to do this to me while I can't stand modenr romcoms.
Maybe it's just that romcoms got way worse in comp. to other genres?
kamisama humpty dumpty
the anime riding off kancolle
And these were just from my memories.
The vast bulk of anime is cheaply produced trash for children and manchildren.
Once the novelty has fallen away you arent left with as much interest. Watch stuff in genres you havent before, or watch the classics of eras before you began.
Is it really that difficult to type 'arison'?
Silver Spoon is set in highschool (even though it is pretty good). Genshiken is otaku-pandering, Golden Time is college but come on, it feels like HS and is a LN afaik.
It's getting pretty damn small, the list of somewhat creative anime that is.
Hey, i am drunk. can't I just be wasted while psoting here?
Why is 2006 LN trash and HS romcom ok and 2013 not ok? Why the double standard?
>Meanwhile I enjoy my moe shows for delivering supersensory inputs without beating around the bushes and wasting my time trying to pose as important.
>wasting my time trying to pose as important.
Look, it's another STEM person looking down on everyone with other talents and interests...
LNs and VNs are media that have turned more popular over the recent years. You rarely had LN shows back in the day.
The industry changes, demographic changes make content creator focus more on otaku and the LN/VN focus is one of the symptoms. Not to mention that they are - due to the focus on otaku - the sfeast way to make money. Nowadays they adapt every trash Ln if it has some sold copies. back then you needed to be pretty damn good or somewhat original like Kino no Tabi, Haruhi, etc. to be adapted.
Long-haired Biki is disturbing.
She's supposed to be manly.
>if you are always looking for something on the fringe of those limits only and otherwise hate the medium for being what it always has been, then you have no business here.
Getting so tired of seeing this sentence over and over.
>If you don't like eating shit then stay away!
Stop acting like there aren't any diamonds out there hidden beneath all of the shit.
Why are you jumping into implications and self insults?
Anyway what is a critically acclaimed anime and who got the authority, should we now listen and submit to MAL users reviews now? I'm pointing that anime is a diverse medium with no high-artistic goal, yeah there are some which are artistic masterpieces and those which are genuinely deep but there are also those which are plain silly and entertaining, personally I enjoy diversity and I have my personal standards. And if you enjoy only one thing that's up to you, just don't go judging a show from the silly type based on high artistic standards or just bash a whole genre because it doesn't match your objective indisputable godly judgement. Things are subjective.
>Exclude adaptions of any kind
You're fucking retarded and should die.
>Golden Time is college but come on, it feels like HS and is a LN afaik.
It really doesn't feel like HS and why does the source matter? Should we disregard manga adaptions too? You do also know that Golden Time has a manga adaption right? Stop being retarded.
Because he started watching anime back then and now after 8 years he hates it. He's just really biased, so pay him no mind.
Why? He excluded LN/VN because they are 90% bad nowadays and are almost always set in highschool. he was making a point for diversity and VN/LN are just not diverse by now. at least the ones that get adapted.
>Genshiken is otaku-pandering
And NHK is not just because it was made in 2006? Ladies and gentlemen your typical nostalgiafags from 2006. I bet these faggots love the first genshiken too.
Holy shit is this the thread for normal people?
>Exclude everything and what is left? Ha! Nothing! I knew it!
Baccano is a LN and one of my favourite anime. back then it was adapted because it was among the best LN available, nowadays every LN with 4 volumes and enough girls gets adapted. big difference.
of course, new watchers liek you don't know that.
It's still dumb to say adaptions of a certain thing are bad as a whole. The source does not mean the adaption will be bad.
Yes, sorry there's not for snlowflakes like you right now
And everything in the past was so much better, right? HS romcom from 2006? Amazing. HS romcom from 2013? Fucking shit, I swear, every single one.
You are the worst kind.
>Baccano is a LN and one of my favourite anime. back then it was adapted because it was among the best LN available, nowadays every LN with 4 volumes and enough girls gets adapted. big difference.
So you're not denying that there are good LNs. Thus you're really stupid for saying to disregard all LN adaptions. Imagine if someone had this mindset when Baccano came out. It's fucking dumb.
>of course, new watchers liek you don't know that.
Seriously? That's what you're argument is coming down to? Everybody that thinks you're retarded for disregarding whole mediums is new? Just fucking stop.
If 10% of the LN were good and only 10% were adapted back then a lot fo the LN adaptions back then were good.
If 50% of the Ln are adapted by now and 10% are good (Sturgeon's Law) then 80% of all new adaptions suck.
Easy enough to understand for me.
>If 50% of the Ln are adapted by now
But they aren't. Do you also think that "almost every manga gets adapted sooner or later"?
Your perception of what is diamonds and what is shit might be wrong is what I am fucking saying there. You expect too much out of it. Why? So you do not have to admit that you love cute girls doing cute things just because you do? Not everything needs convoluted reasoning, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. If you are concerned what others would think of you for it then don't fucking let them know. Just hide your powerlevel and all that guilt society has brainwashed you with evaporates and you'll have a ball. It takes perhaps a whole other paradigm of frankness with yourself and the comparative values and real impacts of media overall to get it, bit once you do you will be so glad that you are just above it all now instead of stuck in the rat race.
By Sturgeon's Law 90% of anime is shit, adapted or not.
>I've been losing interest in anime. It seems the only series that I like are the ones that are like Log Horizon, Kyousougiga, and Shinsekai yori. It feels like I can only enjoy 1 series a season or maybe even just 1 a year.
>Am I growing out of anime?
No, you have finally passed the point that most people eventually pass, some sooner than others. In the beginning, anime was something new and wonderful, so you liked many different shows regardless of why they were made or their production values. But as the novelty of watching this type of animation wore off, the intrinsic property of just being anime was not enough to keep you interested.
It's not necessarily "standards" as the main reason (although that does contribute somewhat). It's more the psychological phenomenon of something "new" no longer being new. I've experienced it and many of my friends have gone thru the same experience as you.
Anime video sales are nowhere near what they used to be with sales of as many as 500,000 units of a single volume. Because of that, anime plots, situations, and chars are created to sell merchandise and licenses.
in absolute number regarding the entire medium,y es.
But this is just a small part we are examinating.
I haven't even completed 200 anime series myself. It got repetitive quick and I got tired of it. I just watch 2-3 shows a season
I can stand such cliches in manga though. It has more charm and variety and even though I don't enjoy watching anime much, reading manga has been going strong for more than a decade. Sometimes you do need break and don't read anything for few months but I always come back for more in the end
Take a break and expand to other medium then come back if you want. That's another optin. Anime isn't everything life has to offer
Although these posts are bit off topic and blogs hit, I fin it but relevant since at some point, most of us will go through same thing and experience this. It seems but relevant and a decent source for advice. Not saying blogshit is fine and all. Just saying.
>If 50% of the Ln are adapted by now and 10% are good (Sturgeon's Law) then 80% of all new adaptions suck.
Except not that many LNs get adapted. Also with your mindset you would currently disregard LNs adaptions as shit as of right now. In your current mindset if Baccano was adapted now it would already be shit because you wouldn't even watch it because IT'S A LN. It's dumb to think that way. Also you're assuming that the adaptions are bad bases on the source and not on the adaptions themselves which is yet again really dumb. You're just fucking retarded if you actually think like this. Judge the show on the show not the source. Don't judge the source as a whole and act like it's all garbage. Which even though you say you like some LNs you obviously don't since you disregard their adaptions.
>I just watch 2-3 shows a season
Most people don't watch more than 5 a season unless it's a real good season.
>not watching at least 10+ shows
Also by Sturgeon's law 90% LN sucks.
Whether you increase the percentage of things getting adapted or not, each adaption still has the probability of 90% being shitty and thus will not affect that 90% of anime suck.
I usually start with 15-20 shows and finish around 10. If the show isn't all that interesting I will just stop donwloading new eps, but at least I know I gave it a chance and have a base for opinion about it. There is no point in forcing yourself to watch absolutely everything, but sticking to only 1-2 shows based on their chart description is retarded too.
The opposite happened to me. For the longest time I was never able to push myself to watch more than 3 shows each season, and even then I'd often struggle to keep up with all of them, often putting them on hold indefinitely or forcing myself to marathon them at the end of the season. But recently I've been picking up at least half a dozen shows each season, and I keep looking for more.
I have no clue what happened, but it makes me want to call bullshit on people claiming that your interest in anime will inevitably wane over time. You guys haven't grown up or developed standards, you've forgotten how to have fun.
Jesus all these typos. Damn I need sleep
I am aware if that but u can't seem to watch more than 2-3 a season. I also have a peeve on manga adaptions I already read. I know everything that's going to happen so it bothers me. Then if fillers come. It bothers me as well as I feel that most fillers are inferior to original. That reduces tons of show each season I pick from.
Maybe I will be untested in few shows at start of season but that euntusiasm always die off towards the end and a lot of time I just don't bother completing a series even if it has 2-3 episodes left. Sometimes it feels like a chore even if I was excited for new episode just days before
I'd say it really depends on the season.
Some years I sometimes was following 3-4 shows in bad seasons, like remember Winter 10-11? God damn that was bad, I think the only show I really followed was Hidamari (incidentally good enough to hold up a whole season itself imo). Others such as this last summer (not to mention this season now) have been fucking nuts with 12+ shows a season. Most are mediocre but it is rare for me to authentically drop something (my radar on series I should avoid is pretty accurate) so I plow through them all.
A number of years ago, Japan modified its televised public media laws to allow much more latitude on how corporations can "advertise" in anime shows. The law still prevents competitors from publishing deregatory attacks on competitors. For example, Honda has paid to have only its models of scooters to be featured in one anime show (no competitors vehicles allowed). The female MC rides a honda scooter that is rather peppier in the anime than the real-life version. ha ha. But that's legal now in anime.
Okay, that was the long way of saying that anime nowadays has its content not dedicated towards telling a great story or providing a media experience with great integrity. The producers certainly want to, but they have to compromise the show in order to please the sponsors' agendas. Some anime shows require the chars to have certain poses, for example, because store and magazine advertising is going to make use of those characters in those poses. Thus, the plot is forced to get the characters into those situations along with those backdrops. It's a case of the tail wagging the dog and no where you get this more than in the "moe" type anime. This is what happens when the main source of income is no longer the sales of the video. The main source of income has switched to merchandising and there's no real need to put more opportunity cost into those kinds of shows than necessary.
It doesn't help that otaku defend this type of anime environment as Hayao Miyazaki and other anime/manga creators have mentioned.
Or actually crap thinking of wrong year on Hidamari, that was Wnter 09/10. Which had few shows (like 15 for the whole season) but many good ones.
It depends. I'm not one of those people that only watches 5 or just bases things off chart description unless it's something that is literally yelling YOU WILL FUCKING HATE THIS DO NOT WATCH.
Sometimes you just need a break and there is no point in making some elaborate excuses like 'uh oh anime is all generic now blah blah I liked it better when it was GOOD". In 2006-2010 I would switch between doing nothing else but watching anime or playing WoW every half year. After 2010 when WoW went to shit I finally got myself a PSP and there are seasons when I watch 20 shows + marathon older series while PSP collects dust, followed by one where I barely finish 5 series but play PSP all the freaking time.
You may swap these activities with whatever else you like. Take a break, have good time, just don't come here to whine every time you get bored of anime.
>those people going hurr anime is all generic crap these days, it was so much better in the 90s or early 2000s etc
The funny thing is looking back, the past couple years back to like 2010 have generally been at the very fucking least as good as 2005-10, maybe better. And 10-14 is ridiculously better than 00-05, and the last ten years have whupped the fucking shit out of the 90s overall.
So people saying it was better back then are to me factually deluded nostalgiafags and there is no real getting around the fact. Yeah your favorite childhood or teenage show holds a special place in your heart, that's cool and I've got those too. But I can still call a spade a spade, we are in a fucking platinum age compared to ten years ago and a hyper giga diamond age conpared to the 90s.
I watched the first season of The Wire some months ago, I really don't understand where all the hype comes from.
Alright, it's a realistic cop/crime drama, the characters are realistic, it's all so damn realistic, I get that. But as far as the actual storytelling went, there were only a few times where I actually felt interested in what was going on, and I could barely bring myself to care about any of the characters. I wasn't even all that worried when that lesbian got shot. I just didn't care for her. I felt pretty bad for McNulty when he started crying over it, cause he blamed himself, but shit, that's like the one and only guy I feel any reason to care about in this show. It probably sounds like I think this show was fucking terrible, it wasn't, but how the hell is it practically universally acclaimed as the greatest TV show ever made?
B-but old anime is better.
B-but NES games are the best.
B-but my childhood memories are better and I got to know only "the best" things because there was no internet so I couldn't discover there were 5 times more shitty things too. And even if there was something, it got filtered from my memory over years.
Because it is so damn realistic and masterfully crafted.
If you can't accept new things you have become old and will be left behind by everyone else.
I'd say there are certain shows from those particular years that outclass a lot of stuff now, but the fact is that we're getting a lot more than we ever got before and there's plenty of good stuff in it. I think the problem is that there hasn't been that "big" show in so long that people think everything is garbage now. You could say SnK or KlK are those "big" shows, but a lot of people hate SnK for good reason and KlK isn't TTGL, so a lot of people hate it too.
>B-but NES games are the best.
Hey now. I think most people will agree that the SNES was probably the greatest time for vidya. It's pretty objective fact that the SNES and PS2 are the best systems ever created based on their huge libraries of quality video games. I do agree that people that think NES games are the best are retarded faggots though.
Sounds like me a while back. Burnt out on anime.
Keep watching if they're the only ones keeping you there.
Watching some other series helps, I watched Yamato 2199 back then and strangely managed to last several episodes in a roll when I normally would have stopped after one episode.
>Geass' HS setting feels forced