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I started watching Index out of impulse and I'm confused.

How does Accelerator powers work exactly?
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He has the power to make vectors something 'real' (it´s related with his Personal Reality, just look it up in the wiki) and control those vectors in every way he can come up with.
Because of that he can chaneg the direction of his enemy´s attack and 'reflect' it, send shit flying trhough the air or manipulate the vectors in the wind to grow some tornado-wings and fly.
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He controls vectors.
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Accelerator can kill the Flash
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He can change how fast stuff moves and in what direction it moves.

Do you know what it's called when something changes direction or speed? Acceleration
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>>101534547
>direction OR speed
>when something changes direction it´s called Acceleration
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He can basically control everything.
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>>101534460
He can also reprogram a loli's brain and determine exactly what kind of medical treatment an injured pregnant women requires.
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>>101534695
Are you an idiot?
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>>101534543
Don't get started on that. Speedforce is not a vector. Flash defeated Death, he can defeat Accelerator.
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>>101534869
The flash can beat anyone, though.
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>>101534695
his statement correct
whats your point anon?
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>implying change in instantaneous velocity is caused by acceleration
Technically if the Railgun can shoot something at an infinitly fast velocity that the change in velocity, aka acceleration, cannot keep up then Accelerator is fucked.
Therefore Flash wins.
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>>101535009
>>101534844
Acceleration is the change in the velocity of an object. Yeah, velocity is a vector and has magnitude and direction, but only when you change that object velocity you 'accelerate' it.
Changing direction alone isn´t 'accelerating' something.
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>>101534970
Can he beat Demonbane?
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>>101535075
But Accelerator reflected Misaka´s Railgun
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Why are you all talking about his name of all things? It's not even the word they use for his power in canon.
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>>101534460
That's one the most bullshit power I've ever heard.
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>>101534695
His statement was correct. are you 15 or have you somehow managed to avoid ever taking a physics class in high school?
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>>101535251
Accel is barely even a high tier is the sad thing...
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>>101535251
that's exactly why the nerf him later on in the show
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>>101535340
It's not much of a nerf. He just gets a time limit.

It rarely actually comes up.
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>>101535167
>what is being retarded
it's you
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>>101535194
What if Demonbane was a Flash?
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>>101535405
It comes up every time he fights against someone who isn´t absolutely shit tier.
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>>101535442
They're called speedsters.
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>>101535167
maybe if you weren't in your first month of classical physics, you would have learned a little thing called torque
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>>101535340
>nerf him later on in the show
With wings he's stronger than he originally was before getting shot.
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>>101535167
a=dv/dt

Velocity is a vector so even if the magnitude stays the same a change in direction is a change in velocity. Newtonian physics isn't even hard; you have a tough road ahead of you.
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>>101535479
He also becomes a lot better at getting wrecked by Touma.
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>>101535474
I meant one of the many Flashes, not speedsters in general, but thank you for the input. The question remains
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>>101535251
It's not that great of a power in a series where there are gods, angels, a hand that cancels everything and a guy that had literally the power to win.
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>>101535621
Touma's power is to make anyone he fights act like a fucking idiot, so that makes sense.
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>>101535553
>>101535477
>>101535419

Anons taking obvious bait because they can show off their elementary physics knowledge, also asperger's
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Can Accel beat the Hulk?
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>>101535705
>Lol I watched the anime
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>>101535712

I think there's something to this. Some of the most obnoxious kids in my lectures in college were sperglords that sat at the front and wanted so badly to impress the profs with their knowledge that they'd interrupt them mid sentence with whatever asinine bullshit was on their mind 2-3 times a lecture.
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>>101535688
Fiamma's holy right not only cancels the existence of everything, it can also teleport.

>>101535772
Yes. The only question is how many minutes of the Earth's rotation would he need?
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>>101535772
Depends.

The average man's perception of The Hulk based on the actual description of his powers? Yes.

The comic nerd's perception of the The Hulk based on the fucking absurd powerlevel crap that infects western superhero comics? Fuuuuuuuuuck no.

This is true for most "can X beat a comicbook superhero".
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>>101535808
Watched both seasons, read a few of the novels and some, but not much, of the manga.

Touma has plot armor.
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>>101536025
Considering how many battles he has lost, I highly doubt it.
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Reflecting attacks? Fine. Reversing blood flow? Cool, whatever. Motherfucker is OP as fuck, but I didn't mind the ridiculousness of Accelerator's powers until the bit with fixing Last Order's programming. That shit was just whack. And I'm not talking about stopping the bullet; I mean his random vector-based hacking abilities that made no fucking sense at all.

There's plenty of whacky shit in Index though, so when something like that happens I just pretend it made sense and kept watching anyway.
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>>101536025
>Manga
>Thinking the manga knows anything
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>>101535688

Fucking Fiamma, I really wish he could autowin some sense into the more arrogant characters in AC. He's a pretty cool guy ignoring the time he smacked based pope.
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>>101536201
The dude has built an entire law of physics based on foreign laws in his head, twice. Hacking into a brain isn't surprising.
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>>101536201

I imagine the show's like profoundly shitty if you're someone who has trouble suspending disbelief when viewing media. Stuff gets weird, it's still watchable. Not clear why but it works
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>>101536337
I'm perfectly fine with bullshit science and magic in Index, but nothing bothers me more than the "lel, I pull my fist back."
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>>101536025

>plot armor
>losing almost half of his fights
>many times win with help
>his wins are actually the work of his misfortune, all preserving his life until we entered the Othinus wild ride

Nah.
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>read NT9 epilogue
>read NT9 Afterword
>hyped as fuck for deredere Othinus
>she will most probably thanks Touma and then dissapear for 8 more volumes
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>>101536120
He's only won five fights in New Testament out of like 15.

It's profoundly sad.

Unless you count NT 9, and then Touma has the worst win-loss ratio out of anybody ever.
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>>101536297
Idk anon, that one caught me off guard with how out there is was; definitely felt like an asspull. And then a couple episodes later Index starts shouting roman letters at an earth golem to mess with its remote control function. It should've happened way before then, but it was at that point that I decided to stop trying to rationalize anything in Index. It's an enjoyable series with likable characters.
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>>101536201
It would make sense that he is able to do that if he had access to achronological quantum computing, but then he'd be a lot more broken in other situations.

Doesn't Misaka hack shit with electricity?
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>>101535640
no impure last order please anon
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>>101536640

Wait, Index's part actually makes sense. It's the logical result of having pretty much the entire knowledge of magic while not being able to use it.
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>>101536727
Yeah. She can also literally see radio waves and magnetic field lines and shit.
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>>101536783
Shouting letters at something being controlled remotely interferes with it's remote control functions? That seems logical to you? Don't get me wrong, I like the series, but let's not pretend it's logical.
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>>101536919
meant to quote >>101536750
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Are the novels much better than the anime? or its pretty much the same?

I've watched every anime thus far besides Railgun S
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>>101536919
>>101536961
She uses some sort of magic code to mess with the magic being used to control the golem.
She forced orders into the golem like "stop" or "move your feet there."
She´s a walking library of magic so she knows how to deal with almost any type of magic. Controlling a golem or changing the direction of a magic attack isn´t a problem for her.
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>>101536919

>what is a code
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>>101536919
Not him, but it's explained better in the LN. She's not targeting the golem, she's targeting the caster. The letters are just shorthand for actual words in Kaballah.
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>>101537075
Personally think so, but it'd be your call. Early volumes translations vary in quality while they're consistently good later on.

Read it if you're curious, if you don't like it stop reading. Not sure why people make a big deal about this kind of stuff.
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>>101537075
You need to watch Railgun S. It was SO damn good. The re-done Sisters arc was amazing. Seriously, you can't even really compare Touma v.s. Accelerator in Index to the mind-blowing shit that is Touma v.s. Accelerator in Railgun S.
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>>101536464
I always feel like anime and manga in general suffer from a complex where they exist in a universe where there don't seem to be any rules.

writers tend to have this weird idea that it's okay to write the most absurd unrealistic plot devices in the name of making things seem cool.
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>>101537508
That's called budget and the second part (aka Nagai Space) was shit.
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>>101537508
It's too bad it only lasted 16 episodes though. Oh well, it's better than if they made filler.
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>>101537508
Sisters arc was good but the second half of the series was so bad I had to stop
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>>101537596
You're killing me over here.
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>>101534225
Close ranged energy manipulation, at master level.
His callculations to do this use vectors.
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>>101537574
The universe of Index has science that is years ahead of anything we have as well as literal fucking magic. I don't think we can really write off anything as bullshit.
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>>101537574
>>101537847
Eh, it's less that and more that Espers write their own rules. Their powers work based on their own perceptions of it.
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I'm starting to think this was a troll thread. They explain everyone's power in Raildex in full detail. Is OP a faggot who posted here seconds after being introduced to Accelerator or does he not pay attention to the anime he watches?
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>>101536477
>>his wins are actually the work of his misfortune, all preserving his life until we entered the Othinus wild ride
Now that an interesting take on those things.
>>101536637
So maybe 20 wins, and a couple million losses?
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>>101537904
>does he not pay attention to the anime he watches?
This is the reason for a lot of the stupid questions we get on this board.
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>>101537904
Anime just said "controls vectors". If you don't know what vectors are I guess it could be confusing.
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>>101537889
>Their powers work based on their own perceptions of it.
Not the perception of their powers, the powers manifest out of their perception of reality.
Also every person percieves reality in a different way, but some are simmilar.
This + random drugs = manipulation of quantum physics.
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>>101538019
If you don't know what a vector is, you are either underage or an uneducated third-worlder.
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>>101537968
20 wins, 2410032 losses
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>>101537968
Pretty sure Othinus said it straight out. His losses are misfortune, and his wins are also misfortune, because it means he won't die and his life will get worse.

Which makes sense as Touma's life just gets progressively shittier as the series goes on.
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Since this is now Index General, I'd like to talk about Touma's power.

As we know it, he has Imagine Breaker. Misfortune and shit in his right hand. Anyone else thing that's obscure as fuck? His RIGHT HAND. What does his left hand do? His feet? Does he have the ability of fortune somewhere else? Why is his ability confined to his right hand when it seems like every other esper and magician is able to manipulate their entire body with their supernatural powers?

I'm an anime only fag, but I have seen all of it. Planned to start the LNs soon but the site was down yesterday
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>>101538100
What's with this number?
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>>101538155
>anime only

you are not living your life correctly
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>>101538155
The rest of his body doesn't do anything. I mean he has a resistance to passive shit like Angel Fall and Divine Punishment all over his body, but that's about it.

Also his ability has nothing to do with Espers or Magic. He's only called an Esper because he went through the program, but his power isn't an Esper power.
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>>101538155
Some guess that he might be able to expand IB on his whole body. But it would do more harm than good anyway, so why bother?
But you are right, it should be his penis, that contains IB, it would make the plot way more interesting.
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>>101537508

Index has dem punched Accelerator faces though...

>>101537589

The other day I decided to make a quick, quick go through Nagai Space to see if TouMAN showed himself, pretty much skipping around the episode in two minutes.

I left with a couple of cool cameos like Aogami, and that ATROCIOUS last episode.

A gundam, seriously?
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>>101538155
It's not a power, it's an intangible prison cell.
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>>101538227
Relax, he's planning to read the LN, that's fine.
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>>101538302
I just wanted to make the joke ok
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>>101538155
He has the power of misfortune deep inside his anus. If he had a gay partner he could use, but his misfortune forces him to be surrounded by hot chicks.
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>>101537904
We should make some kind of faq pic for railroad.
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>>101538356
Thor would be happy to do it.
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>>101538208
My father works in Gremlin
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>>101538105
She did? But it's not really true, since Touma actually had a "Lucky Day".
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>>101538361
or you could just link them the wiki

or tell them to google the wiki

isnt telling people to fuck off and google things typically the /a/ thing to do
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>>101538459
The wiki is awful though.
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>>101538412
But Gremlin wouldn't know about that. Not even Touma, Othinus or Kamachi.exe have reliable data on this.
>>101538459
IIRC the wiki is a very bad place for explanations like these.
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>>101538155

Misfortune is not a power, but a cosequence of Imagine Breaker. He doesn't have good luck because blessings of god are negated, and he doesn't have a twin soul/fated love because red string of fate is negated.

Also, this is just especulation, but seeing how well the Book of Law's stuff fits with the setting, it's probable that IB is Choronzon
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>>101534225
Basically he is a really strong telekinetic with melee range.
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>>101538550
>and he doesn't have a twin soul/fated love because red string of fate is negated.
jesus fuck is that canon? poor Touma...

Misaka Mikoto seemed to like him in the anime
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>>101538546
What fo you know? Your father probably has a shitty job in the Roman Catholic Church
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>>101538642
His father is Stiyl.
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>>101535251
Accelerator is mid tier.

Low tier if you count American comics.
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>>101538634
>Poor Touma
You don't even know.
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>>101538634

Nothing says girls can't like him, in fact many do, just not his "fated one"

Plus it's pretty likely that he will fuck up whatever relationship he's in.
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>>101538666
>His father is Stiyl.
Damn. Can't unsee Stiyl as a total Dad character now.
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>>101538634
He has more than 10000 craving after his cock, but none of them is his twin soul
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>>101538736
I read about some of that weird ass world ending shit on the wiki. It was getting into Naruto Shippuuden level complex and fansub level grammar, so I gave up trying to figure out what the fuck I was reading.

Where do you guys read the LNs? A website or do you download them?
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>>101538550
>He doesn't have good luck
No, don't lie to me anon, Kamijou-san will have his lucky day.
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>>101535631
There can be (well its a paradox there can be one because there can't be one) a demonbane made entirely out of flash dicks piloted by a batman made out of kryptonite who is being possessed by god who is made out of cereal.
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>>101538857
>>101538764
Mikoto end is happiness.
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>>101538875
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index
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>>101538634

>poor Touma

Just you wait

Also, since you're an animeonlyfag, brace for a wild ride, because shit gets REAL right after the anime ends.
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>>101538768
I want Stiyl to have a kid with a QR code on his cheek
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>>101538875
Don't trust the wiki explanations, they're awful and nearly always wrong.

And Baka-Tsuki, though you can download them as PDFs as well.
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>>101538727
>Low tier if you count American comics.
Please don't mention stuff like that here, it leads to missfortune.
>>101538914
Every cloned iteration of her is better than the original. Also she is a shit character.
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>>101538764
Isn't his fated one Index? She can't lose when her name is in the title, and she has never been punched by Touma despite the fact that he should.
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>>101538995
>>101538938
Sweet, thanks. Also, what's with the couple "SS" volumes sandwiched between normal volumes?
>>101538947
>Also, since you're an animeonlyfag, brace for a wild ride, because shit gets REAL right after the anime ends.
I'm really excited.
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>>101538950
>Not an implanted NFC chip
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>>101539021
Your taste is absolute shit.
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>>101539070
SS is side stories
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>>101539059
>Index
>Relevant
Also Kamachi himself said in an interview she'd make a terrible wife who you would get tired of fast.
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>>101539059
>and she has never been punched by Touma despite the fact that he should.
Don't quote me on this since I've only seen the anime, but during the Angel Fall arc, Index looked like a dude to Touma but was still her usual clingy self, and so Touma harmed her multiple times. I know he tried to choke her, slammed her face with a door (accident I think) and possibly more.
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>>101539070
Side Stories, they aren´t all focused on Touma but they add some things to the main sotry so you should read them.
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>>101539059
>Isn't his fated one Index?
I'm not sure how few of the stuff you have seen / read, but keep going before you ask retarded questions like these anon.
>>101539108
;_;
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>>101539059

She could be any girl in the world, we only know that she will get the T
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>>101539059
She's petzoned.
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>>101539072
I was going for a visible theme. That could be cool too, though.
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>>101539174

Fucked up there.

>she will NEVER get the T*
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>>101538613
I wonder if Accelerator can replicate Unabara's trick of going into stasis to prevent damage.
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>>101539194
The NFC chip on my phone is visible, therefore I concluded all of them have to be, since it's range is really short.
On the other hand the QR-Code would pop a link every time you make a picture / video of him.
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>>101539137

He buried her too.
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>>101538288
It would certainly make things interesting if he kept wipping out his dick at biribiri
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>>101538241
Level 0s are espers.
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>>101539290
He reflects anything and everything, that's way above anything that shitty telekinesis guy did.
His only purporse was to have his idendity stolen anyway.
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>>101539346
Touma makes literally no AIM at all. He's no Esper.
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>>101539070

Prepare for some best girl, who did nothing wrong.
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>>101538764
>he will fuck up whatever relationship he's in.
Itsuwa got fucked over for just thinking about it.
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>>101539407
He is an esper, per AC-Esper definition/classification.
He might be a level 5 esper beneath his IB.
For example invisible thing
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>>101539407
By definition, everyone who went through the power program(or whatever it´s called) is considered an Esper.
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>>101538634
Zappy Dan the magnet man liking Touma is something that Touma dislikes and actively takes long cuts to avoid her. Mostly because she is felony tier tsun.
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>>101539403
Unabara's trick is better in a way. Reflection can be bypassed, with Unabara's trick your only option is to ignore durability altogether (which may not work given the Spear failed) or overcome the amount of power he can output.

>“But at the point of death, he used his esper ability… Telekinesis. He changed every particle in his body into a solid block, going into a false death—maybe cryogenic stasis is a better term. Stabbing his heart was like stabbing a frozen slab of meat; no damage could be done. Not even the Spear could take him apart. I had no other ideas, so I could only tie him up and lock him in the room…”
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>>101539407

He has an expert brain, IB just deletes anything that might come from it.
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>>101535194
Yes, Flash can beat Demonbane.

He can't beat Elder God Demonbane. Nothing beats that.

Except for the LED Mirage
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>>101534225
By pseudo-science and poor understanding of physics by the author
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>>101539497
I see you're still stuck with the anime.
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>>101538857
I still think Misaki is using Touma as a round about way of having Tsundere thunder.
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>>101539573
Pretty sure that's true in the LN as well anon.
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>>101539072
That would be his grandchild
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>>101534547
> speed
Anon speed isnt a vector. He can change an object's velocity, which that is acceleration.
Do you even Physics?
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>>101539497
Who is a better companion for Touma?
Thor or The Other Thor?
>>101539514
He is just a passive Tank, that is shitting himself about anything.
Accel is a straight forward classcannon, and he is intelligent enough to bypass any form of bypass anyway.
As seen in any kind of magic trick
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>>101539479

Anyone who pursues the TouMAN will end a dyke in jail. Fukou da.
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>>101539407
Dude could be a level 7 happiness esper for all we know but it would get negated.
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>>101539543
Which is wrong.
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>>101539661
Fast -> Slow
>Now it's a vector
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>>101539449
This could be multiple people.

>>101539573
She knocked his bus over.
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>>101539616
No. He doesn't avoid her at all, he has no problems with interacting with her normally. It's only when a dangerous situation happens when he tries to keep her uninvolved.
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>>101539671

Thor since he can be both Thor and Thunderking Thunderking
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>>101539793
But doesn't Thor has even more brain problems?
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>>101539784
No she didn't. She ripped up the bench he was sitting on and sent it skidding across the water.

He wasn't in any danger though. Touma noted she was so precise he didn't even get wet.
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>>101539790
>Confirmed for not reading the LN.
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>>101539790
Did you skip the LNs that got animated?

There is an entire cat mouse game going on.
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>>101539583
>doubting Misaki´s intentions towards Touma
She´s pure as fuck when it comes to him
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>>101539901
She wants to use him to snowball with Bill Cosby.
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>>101539889
Is greentext the only way for you to counter anything?

>>101539892
You, go back to >>101539573.
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>>101539849
Now I will explain to you why Misaki > Misaka.
Misaki sees Touma and a few girls, and is about to send a few more to him.
Misaka sees the same thing, and is about to kill him.
>>101539583
What's your problem?
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>>101539889
>>101539892
Not the same guy, but I readed the LNs and the only thing he does is trying to stay away from her when he is going to be involved in something weird (which is almost all the time) or when he is in a situation that can cause her to go full "tsun" (like buying swimsuits with three lolis).
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>>101540005
Misaka was going to let him do whatever the fuck he wanted until Misaki threatened to sent her army of archetypes.
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>>101540049
So all the time?

>Readed

>>101540002
Ok at this point I know you are just trolling, next time make it less obvious.
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>>101540002
>Is greentext the only way for you to counter anything?
Is questioning said "counter" the only way for you to counter anything?
The best example is the part where she almost killed him in Tokiwadai Garden.
>>101540049
You said it yourself, Touma is basically always involved in something wierd, which makes Misaka a bad friend/lover for him. A very bad one.
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>>101540005
>is about to kill him
How can you people post in these threads when you have utterly shit reading comprehension?
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>>101540102
Mikoto is kind of a sad character for me. She gets really depressed about issues related to Touma all the time.
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>>101539725
explain why
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>>101540102
She was fighting a battle in her mind, and only because Misaki was present in the first place.
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>>101540124
English is not my native language
>>101540141
What I was tryign to say is that he doesn´t hates her or avoids her because she founds her unpleasant, but rather wants to avoid ending up in a situation in which he gets electrocuted to death
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>>101540184
It's a figure of speech anon, similar to how you say "I kill you" to people even though you don't even intend it.
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>>101540233
>but rather wants to avoid ending up in a situation in which he gets electrocuted to death
you are too kawaii
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>>101540288
What he meant is, the post you quoted showed that she was incredibly careful to make sure she wasn't hurting him.
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>>101540233
I don't think Touma is enough of a masochist to enjoy getting electrocuted.
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>>101540233
>What I was tryign to say is that he doesn´t hates her or avoids her because she founds her unpleasant, but rather wants to avoid ending up in a situation in which he gets electrocuted to death
But the thing you described just now is unpleasant, and since it comes from her, she is the one who is unpleasant.
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>>101540124
>trolling
You haven't disproved anything.

>>101540141
>The best example is the part where she almost killed him in Tokiwadai Garden.
He almost killed himself. She was trying to help him, not fuck him over. Please stop being ignorant and read the LNs.
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>>101540348
And yet, she send him flying, and interrupted the thing that was going on.
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>>101540318
>>101540349
>>101540363
He does the same thing with Index and try to do it with Lessar and Birdway until he realizes they didn´t gave a fuck.
The poor guy is too used to getting beaten up for every little shit he does.
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>>101540141
Why do Mikoto haters like to talk about things they don't know anything about?
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>>101540365
Man, that wasn't helping. She was trying to drag him over to her and not kill him yeah, but you can't call that helping.
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>>101540440
*tried
*realized
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>>101540465
Who knows anon.
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LNs are like books, right? How often are there pictures?
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>>101540465
Sure, those 3 times where she actually is helpfull justify the other 100 times where she is a nuisance.
>>101540365
You sure are deluded.
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>>101540233
touma, get electrocuted by misaka? anon, have you seen or read any of this series?
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>>101540631
Don't feed the troll he will just have you trying to prove gravity.
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>>101540568
Varies on the series. Index is generally around 350 pages, with an image around every 30-40 pages. Can vary though. NT 9 for example had an image at the start, then had no images for 200 pages and stacked them all up near the end.
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>>101540568
LNs are light novels, they are like books but a little less dense.
Usually there are 5-8 images in an LN and they appear once every 40 pages or so.
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>>101540568
About 10 per book I guess, but it depends.
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>>101540631
>You sure are deluded
>Hyperbole, if not outright lies

You sure are retarded and ironic.
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>>101540647
Not him, but...

>With bluish-white sparks flying from her bangs, she said, “First you leave me behind at Hawaii, then you suddenly grope my chest when we meet again, and now you’re flirting with some girl like it’s a normal thing! Do you never think about explaining anything or apologizing for anything!?”

>As she shouted, she fired a lightning spear and Kamijou Touma collapsed to the side.

>The blonde-haired, blue-eyed girl standing next to him shook her head and said something in French.

>“Life is always a sudden thing. It is possible it could end right here. But I think it is only fair that I get a bit angry if such a coincidence occurred. This is my precious clue leading to Gremlin.”

>“Huh!? What was that? You usually block it so easily…geh!? You’ve been shot in the stomach!? Why didn’t you say so!?”

>As he lay collapsed and convulsing on the ground due to her much too unreasonable demand, Kamijou asked one thing of Mikoto.

>He asked her to translate for him since he did not understand French.
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>>101540432
So what? Misaki was going to interrupt the scene too, and I don't see you saying anything bad about her.
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>>101540771
>Results into swaring.
How intelligent anon.
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>>101540785
>As he lay collapsed and convulsing on the ground due to her much too unreasonable demand, Kamijou asked one thing of Mikoto.
>He asked her to translate for him since he did not understand French.
LOL FUCK
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>>101540647
>lacking reading comprehension this much
I said he wants to avoid it, not that he gets electrocuted.
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>>101540836
She was about to add something nice to it, that's a difference.
It's productive, not destructive.
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Haven't keeping up with this series but is Biribiri still the best girl.
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>>101540925
Biri Biri old and busted
Othinus is the new hotness
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>>101540925
No, her sister is better.
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>>101540852
>LOL FUCK
What's wrong with you?
>>101540925
She stopped being a good gril after her trying to kill Touma became a daily routine.
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>>101540841
A post as equally intelligent as the shitty troll I'm replying to is. Seems fair.
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>>101540963
That's not her sister, it's her meta sister.
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>>101541039
Technically Will-San is just as much 10031 as 10031 is.
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>>101540889
The result would have been more pain for Touma if Index and the others saw him with those mind-controlled girls. Mikoto is already aware and accepting of the male and female ratio with Touma and she didn't destroy anything about it.
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>>101541067
No she is way more than that.
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>>101541118
She destroyed that single moment.
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>tfw Accelerator was going to transfer to Touma´s school
>we will never see Komoe annuncing that a new transfer student is joining their class
>we will never see Touma and Accelerator pointing at each other and shouting "IT´S YOOOOUU!"
>we will never see Touma and Accelerator akward interaction
Fukou da
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>>101540925
She's still alright. It's just that other girls popped up in NT9 that are also best girls.
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>>101541202
Natasha from Sekai Seifuku looks so similar to her that it´s weird
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>>101541191
I don't know what are you trying to say anymore. Misaki would have done the exact same thing, and Touma would have suffered the rage of the girls after that.
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>>101541332
Misaki would have brainwashed them to chill out.
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>>101541398
It's unknown if her powers work on magicians, but she definitely can't brainwash Index. Your argument is invalid.
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>>101541467
Why couldn't she brainwash magicians? I mean Index she probably can't, but there's no reason normal magicians should be safe from her.
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>>101541467
>It's unknown if her powers work on magicians, but she definitely can't brainwash Index. Your argument is invalid.
What is your basis for saying so? Magicans are regular humans, who are abusing various systems. It's the espers who are the unregular ones.
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>>101541552
>>101541596
Because she hasn't tried or it hasn't been shown? Anyway, the only "normal" magician would be Lessar, and she wouldn't even care. Index would be the biggest problem in that situation
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>>101541849
>No basis at all.
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>>101541849
Yeah, because Index has shown strong defenses against things related with altering her mind.
Like all those times she resisted getting brainwashed by the Anglican Church...Oh wait...
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>>101541908
Note that I'm NOT saying they're immune. Learn to read. I'm just pointing out that it is unknow if there would be some effect or consequence with a magician after being messed with an esper power, or if it would even work on them. And you can't safely say it would work on them until it actually happens. I'm not asserting or denying anything.

>>101542100
Yeah, magicians. Misaki would die the moment she enters her mind.
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>>101542198
The problem is reading what´s inside, not entering.
Misaki doesn´t needs to read what´s insdie of someone´s mind to control him, she just needs to sent the order into his head.
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>>101542254
She only did that with Touma after knowing her powers would be hard to get into him.
She reads the minds of everyone else in order to know what they're up to before controlling them.
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>>101542358
Durign the Agitate Hallation incident she started sending order into people´s minds constantly, I doubt she took the time to read them.
It´s true that she usually reads people´s minds because of her paranoia, but I doubt that´s needed to control their minds, it´s just something she likes to do.
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>>101542503
*thats
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>>101542100
The problem isn't reading Index's mind, the problem is that a grimoire is a horrible mind destroying book, and she 103,000 perfect copies in her brain
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>>101542793
As long as she sents the order without reading them, there won´t be any problem.
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>>101542793
How can Index contain her mind if Grimoires destroy the brain?
Checkmate scientists.
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>>101542902
And why wouldn't she try to read Index's brains?
Girl is paranoid as fuck about everyone, and has no reason to think that this one nun has some mind destroyers in her brain
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Accelerator is a technical genius of sorts that can perceive and manipulate the flow of energy (including electricity and motion), and mentally perform the calculations necessary to manipulate wind for a radius of miles into a ball of plasma. Apparently, he can manipulate forms of ionizing radiation, too, because he said the only thing that would kill him after being hit straight by a nuke was lack of oxygen.
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>>101542932
When they showed them to her she was in a special place filled with magicians and all the proper measures had been taken.
If you do things right, you can read them. The problem comes when you try to read them as if they were a mere book.
>>101543009
We were discussing if Misaki could control Index´s mind, not what she would do given the chance.
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>>101534543
The are literally too many comic characters to count who can kill the Accelerator without breaking a sweat.
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>>101543085
Um. Yes.
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>>101539407
He went through AC special program system, so his brain was messed with, yet IB cancels any power he got from it.

So the question is, is his dragon an esper power or something IB is holding back(even though IB is meant to be a restart point that magicians made)
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>>101543350
Touma at least thinks Ollerus is full of shit and IB can be used as a reference point but that's not what it really is.
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>>101543350
It´s obviously the main reason IB exists. IB is nothing but a prison for "that".
Also, it´s not that Ib was created to work as a restart point, it´s just that it´s capable of doing it and thus fullfills the role of that miracolous thing that the magicians were selfishly wishing for.
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>>101543350
The dragon came from Izzard, the Invisble Being is just well, invisible.

And his Esper power is Level 6 Limb Exploder
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I have a question for the anon's here.
Who is the strongest esper/thing that does not use magic in Academy city?
Reason being is that i'm doing a PnP based around Academy Cities Esper side, and don't want to include the discovery of magic until far, far, far down the line.
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>>101543789
Accelerator
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>>101543789
That does not use magic? Kakine or Kazakiri technically, since Accelerator can use magic now. He doesn't start doing that until well down the line though.

Aiwass may also count, as she's made out of AIM and hasn't used magic that we've seen. She's far too strong to use though.
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>>101543906
>she
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>>101543514
"That" would be the dragon thing in his arm right?
Have we had any more explanation of his right arm, I do remember some other guy talking about it when he used to have it. And the restart point from the last book.
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>>101543906
Accelerator turns into a bleeding mess everytime he does something magical, only time he didn't was when he was doing something incredibly basic like sensing leylines or something like that in Hawaii, and even then keeping himself from bleeding was incredibly taxing
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>>101544015
We only know that it works as a restart point meant to return things to normal when magicians fuck the world way too much.
It has existed for a long time and other people has possesed it in different parts of their bodies.
Apart form that, we only know that it´s restaining whatever the invisible thing is.
Pre-mindwip Touma probably knew what it was and Terra of the Left studied it but since he is kill, the information he got is lost until someone gives a visit to his study or wherever the fuck he did his research.
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>>101538727
American comics are full of overpowered bullshit.
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can someone explain to me the "I pull my fist back and I defeat accelerator" thing
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>>101544272
>Looks at Fiamma and Othinus
Raildex fans can't really complain about that.
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>>101544207
About the same as I remember then.
But I don't think pre-mind wipe Touma would know since he only thought it brought misfortune until he found out it could block powers in AC too.

Also since Othinus restarted it to where Touma just got to her, Terra might still be alive because the first time she threw his body on the ground before destroying everything.
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>>101544352
accelerator's powers are dumb, so 90% of the time they just reverse the vector of something touching them. so kihara or whoever it was, stops his fist just before hitting accelerator and pulls away as it contacts his AIM field, which causes accelerator to "punch him self."
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>>101544352
Accelerator automatically reflects stuff that isn't on a "let it through" list. According to Kihara, if you time it right, you can pull your first back and the field will "reflect" that motion, pulling it through. It's a hole he left in as he's the one who built up Accel's reflection.

Accel has shown the ability to modify his reflection on the fly at other points though, so there's no reason he shouldn't be able to fix that easily. You can handwave it with Kihara knowing Accel inside and out and being able to manipulate him into not doing that, but it's still sketchy.
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>>101544352
What Kihara did?
Accelerator´s reflection works changing the direction of his enemy´s attack. If you sent yout first forwards, it will go into the opposite direction the moment you are about to touch him.
Amata developed special gloves that allowed him to pull his fist back in the last second, causing Accel´s ability to attract his fist to him instead of repel him.
It was bullshit anyway because something like that would create a sonic explosion or something similar. Some anon explained it in a Raildex thread months ago.
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>>101544515
Accel thought it was bullshit as well is the funny thing.

>He knew Kihara claimed to be using his own power against him. But Accelerator had no idea what exactly it entailed or if it was even possible in reality. However, he did know his reflection was of no use.
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>>101544392
Ehm...that was Ollerus and he only knew a bit about IB.
Terra was the guy from God´s Right Seat who looked as if he was on drugs and was killed by Acqua.
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>>101544352
His auto-reflection starts auto-reflecting after a short lag, after it detects the threat.

Since he pulls back at the last moment, the auto-reflection already gave the command to "invert vector", and it inverts "pulling back" with "pulling forward"
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>>101544515
>create a sonic explosion
Lets not bring real science into esper stuff, we'd be here all day.
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>>101544568
>pulling forward
Pushing forward
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>>101544562
This one is Terra
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>>101544580
Fucking Espers and their Unscientific Bullshit, they should just call the Magic Side, the Magic Science side at this point
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>>101544562
Sorry, my bad it was Ollerus who was thrown on the ground in front of Touma like you said, when Othinus destroyed the world.

Wasn't it Fiamma of the right who was researching IB?

>>101544679
Man I can't remember him, should go reread a few novels.
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>>101544679
>God's RIGHT seat
>Terra of the LEFT

what the fuck

this is like that song that tells you how to dance when they say "left foot right stomp" and my mind just breaks
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>>101544683
The funny thing is that's exactly right.

Esper's powers only work by breaking the laws of physics and replacing them with their own. That's their function. It's like the exact opposite of science.
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>>101544766
God's Right Seat is the Organization, they are people who plan to be at God's right

Each one bases their power upon one of the Archangels, who rule over a color, direction, and element, thus Vento of the Front, Acqua of the Back, Terra of the Left, and Fiamma of the Right
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>>101544766
>Not remembering him as Terra of the (Vento is at the front, Fiamma is on the right and Acqua is at the back, welp) Left
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>>101544753
Fiamma knew of IB, but Ollerus said Terra was the one who had done the research.
He just appeared in one volume and died like a bitch, so it isn´t weird that you don´t remember him.

>>101544766
All the members have names like that: Fiamma of teh Right, Terra of the Left, Vento of the Front and Acqua of the Back.

>>101544849
Their plan wasn´t to be at God´s right but to surpass him, thus the La Persona Superiore a Dio thing.
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>>101544766
It's from the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram.

It's a ritual in the RL magic cabal Golden Dawn, which Crowley was a part of. A line from it is as follows.

>"In the Name of God, the God of Yisrale: may Michael be at my right hand, Gabriel at my left, Uriel before me, Raphael behind me, and above my head, the presence of God."
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>>101545003
Though there are many versions of it. The one Kamachi used is probably this one.
>Before me Raphael; Behind me Gabriel; On my right hand Michael; On my left hand Auriel [Uriel]
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>>101545003
>Raphael behind me
Gay as fuck
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>>101545003
I was starting to wonder where Kamachi got his directions since I tend to see Michael at the back, Raphael at the east, Gabriel at the west, Uriel to the North in the sites I've browsed
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>>101545188
Volume 4 says that the elements are distorted.
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>>101545188
Maybe he is facing south?
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>>101545472
Michael and Gabriel are switched, and Uriel and Vento are switched. GRS were actually heavily nerfed the entire time according to Fiamma, kind of makes you wonder how powerful Acqua would have been.
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>>101535075
I'm glad you said flash powers, because that's what accel is. The speed force guy of the raildex universe.
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>>101545561
No, Kamachi just took the directions from Thelema.

Here's how you do the ritual apparently (Auriel is just another way of saying Uriel).


Touching the forehead, say "Ateh (Unto Thee)."
Touching the breast, say Malkuth (The Kingdom)."
Touching the right shoulder, say "ve-Geburah (and the Power)."
Touching the left shoulder, say "ve-Gedulah (and the Glory),
Clasping the hands upon the breast, say "le-Olahm, Amen (To the Ages, Amen)."
Turning to the East, make a pentagram (that of Earth) with the proper weapon (usually the Wand). Say (i.e. vibrate) "IHVH" (Ye-ho-wau).
Turning to the South, the same, but say "ADNI" (Adonai).
Turning to the West, the same, but say "AHIH" (Eheieh).
Turning to the North, the same, but say "AGLA" (Agla).
Extending the arms in the form of a cross say:
"Before me Raphael;
Behind me Gabriel;
On my right hand Michael;
On my left hand Auriel;
For about me flames the Pentagram,
And in the Column stands the six-rayed Star."
until xxi. Repeat steps (i) to (v), the "Qabalistic Cross."
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Why does Alesiter uses a surname as faggy as "Silver Star"?
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>>101545813
Because Black Star was already taken
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>>101545813
It's the name of his RL magic cabal when you translate it to Greek and then into English.
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>>101535402
What's going on here?
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>>101546020
Rapeccelerator
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>>101546093
Is Rape a Vector?
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>>101546344
It will be when he's done.
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>>101536818
I thought he was chewing off here finger...
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>>101549118
He was, but he managed to make it look cute as fuck.
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>>101541193
M-maybe someday when there will be an Index version of carnival phantasm? ;_;
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>>101543789
Hamazura



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