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So what did you think of the last Miyazaki's movie ?
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I wanted to go see it.
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>>101526344
Me too.
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While beautifully animated, I thought it was a pretty boring film for the most part. Jiro's journey as an engineer was worth watching, but there are only so many scenes you can do of him drawing god damn airplanes. My most favorite scene had to be his Jiro and Naoko's wedding, though. Naoko looked downright ethereal in her wedding attire.
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Why is their always a reoccurring thing in Miyazaki films that involves wind?
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Oh, there's a new one?
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OMG DID HE DIED?
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>>101527258
It's been out for a very long time.
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Where is the fuckin' BD Japan?
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Watching the dub late February because I have no choice unless I want to wait a year. I've heard Anno was pretty fitting for the role but I'm curious to experience how Joseph Gordon Levitt will do.
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>>101527843
Seriously, where the fuck is the BD?
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>>101526465
>but there are only so many scenes you can do of him drawing god damn airplanes.
Did it feel like the Endless Eight?
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>>101527913
Weren't the releasing sub and dub in movies at the same time in Feb?
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Another Jap war crime apologist film
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>>101528231
I thought it was dub exclusive though right?
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>>101529002
I read the article a long time ago so I don't remember anymore. I hope not though.
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>>101529070
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-09-11/miyazaki-the-wind-rises-to-open-in-u.s-in-february-with-dub-and-subs

Well thanks for pointing it out. I might just watch both honestly.
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A beautiful and dramatic film, though highly romanticized. I personally loved it.
For all people who say Miyazakis are mainstream and family friendly, this was perhaps the one in a long time that seemed to want to be more serious and aimed at an adult audience. A quite bittersweet ending, by Ghibli standards.
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>>101528328
>jap crime
>Oh hey, I am American, we nuke the hell out of them. It's cool. No harm done. We are the GOOOD guys.
Murrica logic.
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>>101528328
Confirmed for not watching the film. The war topic is relegated to the background, and the characters are shown many times to live their lives strangely unaffected by the war.
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>>101528328
Actually Miyazaki wants Japan to apologize for their war crimes, which they still deny to do.

This film got a lot of flack from Japanese nationalists for NOT having that message.
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>>101526185
I think that it hasn't been broadcaster yet on my country and as usual it'll be out much before on BD and when it gets finally released and only a few ones will go to watch it and the publishers will blame piracy again.
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>>101531507
Strangely enough, I only ever heard of people complaining the movie that the film didn't do enough to apologize for Japan's war crimes.
Political extremists are weird.
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>make movie about guy who designed one of the best war planes ever because you like planes and flying
>get shat on by different crowds yelling:

>MUH PUHHL HARBUHR
>MUH SLAVE LABOUR
>MUH WAR CRIMES
>MUH CIGARETTE SMOKE
>MUH REMILITARIZATION

>mfw these have absolutely nothing to do with the movie
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>>101531935
Haters are gonna hate. Japan as a whole loved it. It was the most successful film in 2013 there, animation or not.
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>>101531507
As far as I'm aware Japan already did issue an official apology, but it was along the lines of "well I certainly wasn't my rightest back then" instead of a "sorry I was wrong". Plus not all countries were properly addressed.

bottom line, japan probably need to pull a Germany style penance before all parties are satisfied
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Movie is pretty bad imo.
the Main character is one of the most boring I've ever seen.
It's like they took this real person and didn't want to add anything else than what is told in some history book, so it's just one long enumeration of stuff he did, whithout giving him any character.
There is no stake at all for 1h30, then it start to get interesting by the end because finally it's something else that "Jesus making planes". Too bad the whole movie isn't like that.

Also Anno voice is really weird at first.
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>>101532077
Japan likes to give a "apology" then take it back after awhile. Like I think they did something similar to war sex crimes against Korean woman. Like they gave some money but then denied they had done anything wrong after a few years.

They also try to keep a lot of stuff out of their history books, so it still paints a picture of "they did nothing wrong," just trying to preserve their great nation. Japan will never follow Germany's footsteps, at least not any time soon.
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>>101532199
>Also Anno voice is really weird at first.
>"...Lo vent seuh laive."
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>>101532199
JGL will play a better Jirou than Anno, mark my words.
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>>101532077
One of the biggest reasons Japan doesn't do like Germany does is China's attitude on the subject.
Another one is that there's no one to force them to do it, unlike Germany at the time.
I think people should just get over with it, even if Japan apologizes a billion times every day, the dead will not come back to life. And the current generation of Japanese aren't responsible for the war.
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>>101532411
Y fo tonter do vivre

>>101526465
So yeah, parts with his wife are pretty good because here, Jirou is an egoistical asshole, but at least he acts like a human being.
But it's too late, it can't be redeemed by this point.
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>>101532708
It will bring peace for the ghosts. The Chinese traditionally worship their ancestors so I can understand why they seem to clung on to past deaths with particular vehemence.

I don't live in Asia and Sino-japan relationship seem stable enough with their regular grudges, but it makes me wonder how things would've been different
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Now you tell me which Asian nations pulled out something like Germany. They are all backstabbing each other when the subject is history, I don't a special problem with the Japanese case.
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>>101526465
That was my favorite part too, aside from his dream/hallucination interactions with Planebro.

More Naoko in general would have improved the movie.
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>>101526558
Miyazaki is a known plane/glider otaku.
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>>101532708
No, what needs to happen is the geriatric neocon fucks in the Japanese government need to stop stirring up shit by making retarded statements "Koreans was not rape" in public every time they need to shore up their rapidly dying base.
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>>101526185
>the last

It's not over until we get Porco Rosso 2.

BELIEVE IT.
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>>101531327
>Like absolving the Germans because Dresden.

Or Chinese logic, or Korean, or Filipino, or Vietnamese, etcetera...

So what you're really saying we should pardon genocidal imperialistic behavior because the perpetrators got their asses handed to them in the end?
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well animated bullshit.



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