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Homura has like, what, a decade of experience over all the other magical girls and she can't even win against Mami or Sayaka?

No wonder she couldn't even beat Walburgers, she didn't learn shit all, meanwhile, Mami learns how to make old fashioned guns(given enough training, she could make automatic machineguns and tanks), Sayaka learns how to take control of her witch form, and Kyoko learns how to use spear attacks
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>>101526084
Well it was established that she isn't as strong as the other girls. She barely qualifies to become a magical girl, it's mostly just her time manipulation magic that makes her potentially strong. Her combat methods rely entirely on normal guns and explosions that she has to manually use. So of course she'd be at a severe disadvantage to someone like Mami who can make a variety of guns literally materialize out of the air and has a readily manipulable ribbon. As for Sayaka, beats me. Maybe she's just faster.
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>>101526972
Sayaka 2fast
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>>101526972
Pretty much the reason that made me sad Homura lost the fight. Mami's magic is just so much more versatile.
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>>101526972
>Makes the most selfless wish out of all the magical girls
>Becomes the weakest
wow
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>>101527347
Didn't Mami just wish to live on?
That's more selfless than wishing to save a friend if you ask me.
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>>101527386
You need to check the dictionary and look up what selfless means.
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>>101527386
Do you even know the difference between selfish or selfless
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>>101527510
>>101527484
Yes yes im retarded.
Misread that.
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>>101527386
>wish to save your own life
>wish to heal a cripple
Only one of these things is of the direct benefit to the wisher -guess which.
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>>101526084
>tumblr
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>>101527386
Wishing for your own sake is objectively the most selfish wish.

Every other girl wished for the good of someone else. They had selfish reasons for doing so, but the wish was directly for someone else's sake.

Except Mami.
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>>101527386
>This is the average Sayakafag
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>>101527262
I'm mad that all they pander to Mamifags by making her the most powerful for no reason whatsoever to make up for that she died early on
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>>101527347
Because her wish was centered on Madoka, it was Madoka who kept on being stronger and stronger as the ammount of time looped increased.
Homu herself did not have potential to be strong. Only the time manipulating devices acquired from her wish make her minimally strong.

This reminds me, i havent posted in Madoka threads in a while
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>>101526972
TV series Sayaka couldn't hold a candle to Homura. Rebellion Sayaka had remembered all of the previous timelines, so she had a crazy amount of level ups.
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>>101527660
She has always been the strongest, the original notes confirm this, keeps crying bitch nigga.
http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Movie_1_Brochure
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>>101527660
Homura is weak against fairy type
like Mami
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This >>101527660 so much.

Is it specified in any of the mangas, games or whatever exactly what Mami wished? Like exact words. Because even having natural talent, she's too good, if she wasn't so mentally unstable she could wipe the floor with any of the girls.
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>>101528065
she wished for "live on"
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>>101528065
She's the most powerful because it was a selfish wish, it was a wish for herself that helped no one else.

I like that hypothesis and I stick by it.
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>>101528065
>The exact phrasing of Mami's wish is currently unknown
>According to a magazine interview, Mami's wish has something to do with "To connect to life".
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>>101528038
>http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Movie_1_Brochure
Gee, maybe she's always been the strongest because... she always has been planned to be the "being a magical girl is dangerous!" symbol?

It's bad writing how her power levels are just sooo high just because she exists, and that Homura who -should- be the most powerful just from sheer experience(not even by a couple months, like, YEARS) is "weaker" just because the writers said so.

Fuck this plot
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>>101528373
Keep crying, Homura lost to Mami in the original series too. 10 years experience got nothing on natural skill.
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>>101528573
>Homura lost to Mami in the original series too
Source please

No, Mami being a gigantic cunt while Homura gives her one last chance of trust doesn't count
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Wait... if the threads of fate in the universe supposedly made Homuhomu stronger, why did she always lose to Mami? Does that mean the threads of fate also focused not only on Madoka and Homu, but the others centered in Homu's life as a magical girl as well?
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>>101528675
Yes it does, if by 10 years you can't predict when you're gonna get tied up by Mami's ribbons then you simply aren't as good as her.
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>>101528373
Do you even see the movie? Homura always been the weakest and only depends on her timestop magic and nothing else (that's why she fucking lost against Mami and Sayaka), Mami just had her ribbons and through hard work and experience she became stronger.
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>>101528739
>if the threads of fate in the universe supposedly made Homuhomu stronger
Because that not the case, is just shitty speculation.
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>>101528775
The thing is, timestop is all she has which has the more limitations then Mami & Sayaka's powers. I mean compared to the versatility of Mami's ribbons she was screwed.
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>>101527660
She's always been the most powerful, she's got talent and experience. When she's at her best, you'd better watch the fuck out.
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>>101528759
Or maybe the main timeline we saw Homura never expected that and really wanted to trust Mami for once
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>>101528739
Again, just because that's how it is. Bad writing, yeah probably. Homura has a huge handicap and Mami inside Homu's barrier was the best and ideal Mami that the real world will never see; surrounded by friends, etc. Outside she will always breakdown and have poor mental health and bring her total power down by a notch.
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>>101528739
The threads of fate were focused only on Madoka.
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>>101529064
Yep that's why she totally won against Charlotte and came back with her entire head!
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>>101529181
Charlotte caught her off guard and you know it.
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>>101529227
Overconfidence you mean.
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>>101529295
Yeah, just like Homura when she was only relying on her timestop magic.
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>>101529087
>Homura
>trusting anyone

Funny, I guess her completely rejecting Mami's gift of a grief seed was her way to show trust.
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>>101529181
That says absolutely nothing about how strong she is.
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>>101529087
She get tie up again in the movie, the same red ribbons even, so me we can assume that is something that Mami do often.
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>>101529227
Yep, just like how Homura was caught off guard by Mami's ribbons, and only because she really wanted to give Mami another chance even though Mami didn't deserve it, because Mami is fucking crazy
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>>101529754
I think what's so interesting is that at some point in the fight Mami 'switches' places with her ribbons which is how she was able to capture Homura at the end.

I mean at some point was Homura just fighting magical ribbons while Mami was elsewhere or was it just a fucking split second switch the very moment Homura started time again?
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>>101529851
>and only because she really wanted to give Mami another chance
Now, you don't really believe that, do you?
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>>101529851
I think the problem in this one you're forgetting is this Mami wasn't actting unstable.

She was acting exactly how a person who catches another person trying to kill their first friend. Remember Cheese was her only friend for the longest time in this world and then Homura tries to kill her? Holy shit that's a good way to make Mami want to kick your ass.
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>>101529979
Was after the explosion of bullets.
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>>101530075
Then why didn't she just let the ribbon clone get hit by a bullet to tie Homura up in the first place?
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>>101530063
He is talking about episode 3.
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>>101530132
The ribbon clone didn't exist until that point.
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I just got finished watching this. Should I even watch the movies?
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It could just be Homura subconsciously not wanting to win.
It's not a very ideal world of you just end up killing your friends, like you know, the old worlds she ran away from.
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I don't get why when Homura tries to break the ribbon connected to her it keeps coming back, but when Homura fakes suicide it breaks
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Mami is the strongest because all she does is fight witches/familiars, it's all she lives for. Plus, she has the kind of power that's shitty at first, but that has a ton of potential.
In contrast, Homu has an extremely OP power that really can't get that much better with training. Timestop is timestop and nothing else. It's overpowered as fuck, but it can't evolve into something different, plus it has many weaknesses (The contact thing and how long it seems to take effect when the shield starts spinning).

Apart from that, Homura has fought a shitton of witches/familiars, but it's likely Mami has fought more, since Homura presumably only cares about enemies that are a threat to Madoka (and they're also always the same), whereas Mami goes out of her way to fight things.
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Now that the BD is available for pre-order on Animate... which one is the best to get considering the bonuses? Besides the translated booklets of course.
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>>101530266
No you stupid fuckin asspirate, go watch SAO like the shitpacker you are.
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>>101530325
What kind of bullshit are you talking about?

Homura literally has years over Mami in terms of killing witches. Mami is always the first to die instantly when fighting Walpurgisnacht, while Homura always survives long enough to make a wish/talk to dying Madoka/turn back time
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>>101530266
Only if you're ready to accept that Homura is a fallen Apostle and are prepared to wait 10 years before getting any closure.
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>>101530428
Almost thought I was on /v/ for a second. I don't like SAO, nigger.
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>>101530434
because mami does all the damage and she dies saving someone else, like Madoka or even homura, stay mad psycho lesbian lover
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>>101530266
The first two movies are recaps with added visuals. If you want to go straight into the "continuation" of the series, watch the third movie that's out in theaters.
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>>101530297
>It could just be Homura subconsciously not wanting to win.
Yeah, let go with that and not with the logical conclusion that Homura is just shit at fighting.
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>>101530266
Yes
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>>101530434
>Homura literally has years over Mami in terms of killing witches.
She's been more years out there. That doesn't change the fact that Mami may as well have fought far more enemies, and more importantly, different kinds of enemies. Remember Mami goes out of her way to fight familiars, witches and whatever appears, whereas all Homura fights are things that are a direct threat to Madoka (And they're always the same witches). Hell, in the timeline we see Homura only fights Charlotte and Walpurgis.

>Mami is always the first to die instantly when fighting Walpurgisnacht, while Homura always survives long enough
We're talking about why Homura can't seem to beat Mami one on one. Of course Homura must be better at Walpurgis, she's been through that particular enemy a shitton of times.
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even kyoko was able to evade Mami's ribbons

Homura is just weak and she got trapped 3 times
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>>101530559
>because mami does all the damage

What actually happened
>Madoka: Watch out Mami!
>Mami: I am your mentor do not worry about me- *gets oneshotted by a flying building*
>Walpurgisnacht: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>101530266
Only if you want to get even more depressed.
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>>101530698
>even kyoko
You talk like Kyoko isn't the strongest after dokes.
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>>101530699
your gif looks like a homura vs mami
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>>101530671
> whereas all Homura fights are things that are a direct threat to Madoka (And they're always the same witches).

Uh, no. Homura literally says "I will put an end to all witches", subtlety implying she's going to hunt down every last witch there is and kill them, training to beat Walburgers.

It's as if you haven't watched any of the source material at all
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>>101530774

Kyoko was Mami student, she's weaker than her but on the same tier
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>>101530698
When did Mami and Kyoko ever interact?
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>>101530857
>this nigga hasn't read TDS
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>>101530857
Madoka- a different story

read it, is a lot of fun
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>>101530857
Why the fuck nobody read TDS, seriously.
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>>101530782
Just like she fights Gertrud. Or Elsa Maria. Or Ellie. Or Oktavia. Oh, wait.
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>>101530855
Students surpass teachers all the time.
>>101530857
>Hasn't read DS
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>>101530857
In the best Puella Magi story.
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>Go on /a/
>first thing I see is some retarded power level argument about magical girls
Stay classy /a/, know that your animes will never be as good as cartoons which don't rely on random powerlevels to keep you kids entertained
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>>101530782
>subtlety implying she's going to hunt down every last witch there is and kill them, training to beat Walburgers.
That was not implied at all dude. She's just saying that she's going to fight witches alone now.
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>>101530926
>tfw Miss autistic lesbian was late to saving Madoka from Elly

Maoka would have been stretched out and Homura would have had to restart yet another timeline. Thank God for Sayaka, a true hero of mankind.
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>>101531028
>Korra
>Cartoons
3/10 Got me to reply
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>>101530927
when Mami fought kyoko Mami's soulgem was almost black, actually she almost turn into one
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>>101531028
>/co/
>kid shit and Seth Macfarlane shit
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>>101531028
>posts shitty western cartoon
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>>101530927
>Students surpass teachers all the time.
I don't see Kyouko making tanks out of ribbons, nigga.
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>>101530638
Meh, either seems plausible.

I submit to you another explanation:

Most magical girls fight spontaneously. They don't plan out all their moves ahead, instead just jump in and freestyle. It has to do with the type of people that usually become magical girls. The other four mecugas all contracted believing at first that being a magical girl is like what they see in chinese cartoons - being big heroes and all.

Homura is different in that she's under no illusion that being a magical girl is a good job. Being more of a methodical person she likes to plan her steps before hand. In the series we saw glimpses of this from all that researching material on Walpurgis Night at her place, plus how she actually conducted herself in the battle against Walpurgis Night.

When Homura is being forced to be spontaneous she's out of her comfort zone. We saw this in Rebellion when she was put on the spot during the cake song. It's also why she can't handle any situations when someone else has the element of surprise.
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>>101531138
is that a sandclock ?
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>>101531231
Yeah, I don't know why she has one.
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>>101531157
>We saw this in Rebellion when she was put on the spot during the cake song.
Or maybe because she's trying to act cute you autistic fuck
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>>101531417
>act cute
She was cute you degenerate! The memories hadn't kicked in yet.
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>>101531417
>act cute
She was cute. That was before she knew what was going on and was reverted back to shy awkward Moemura.
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Different Story OVAs when?
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>>101531417
She was fucking terrified because motherfucking CHARLOTTE, EATER OF MAMMIES was sitting right next to her drooling
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>>101531501
>>101531550
Did you people even watch Rebellion? Homura was acting happy under her new life but then realized something was wrong when she realized Bebe was the witch that she killed.
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>>101531137
>Shitty cartoon
>Beautiful animation
Yeah, okay
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>>101531614
Never, their story is now irrelevant.
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>>101529064

Where the hell is this scene from
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>>101532302
Bonus of the blu-ray of Rebellion.
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>>101532302

SoL ova
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What? Where can't she beat those? Why do you think that Homura is weak? Her time stop ability makes her nearly unbeatable if she would go all out. Mami can't beat the Walpurgisnacht either. She was incredibly happy when Madoka offered to stay with her forever. She was at her best when she died while Homura dismantled that witch with ease.

Homura is the strongest. She also is the only one who survived in every single time line shown.
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>>101532515
So I gather you haven't watched Rebellion.
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>>101532515
>Her time stop ability makes her nearly unbeatable if she would go all out.
Except both Mami and Sayaka have bested it.
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>>101532302
boku no majo
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>>101532515
>the person holding the reset button is the one who always survives!
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>>101532515
>Her time stop ability makes her nearly unbeatable
>he believes this
There's a reason Mami told her off during the gunkata, you know. I'm a pretty big Homurafag but I'm not gonna harbor delusions that Homura isn't fucked in 90% of situations she isn't prepared for.
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>>101532637
cute anon, trying to sneak Sayaka in there.
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>>101532654
Slut.
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>>101530306
Mami can phase the ribbons in and out of both visibility and tangibility. She phases them out when she doesn't want the ribbon to break. When Homu puts the gun to her head, Mami was using the ribbon to trip her, making it tangible at the moment the bullet hits it.
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>>101532871
ARe you trying to imply that she didn't prevent Homu from stopping time twice and then escape before it was activated when she actually was able to pull it off? Sayaka could have just as easily stabbed Homu instead of the shield if she had wanted to.
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>>101532871
And then she completely failed to do anything to Sayaka after that.
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>>101532621
>>101532637
Yes, I wait for blu ray release before watching it.

Maybe you are right. Maybe Homura is incredibly weak. It just doesn't make sense. Literally everything Homura would have to do is to stop time, pull out a gun, shoot the other magical girl in the head and done.

Well, it is extremely common in anime and manga that overpowered abilities are 'balanced out' with asspulled weaknesses.

In the end I like them all.
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>>101533032
It's no more of an asspulled weakness than the like three other times in the show Homura is caught by surprise and restrained.
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>>101532764
Yeah, exactly, and rarely is she actually prepared for a situation. People think she's methodical when she only starts planning ahead w/ Brazilian Night after who knows how many timelines of failure. Even then, she shows no capability of creating a plan and executing it where people are involved. In the early episodes her modus operandi was, "confront mami, drop spaghetti, pout and walk away"
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>>101532965
I like to think that Mami makes her ribbons like threads as in TDS.
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>>101533091
In the latter timelines when Homura had aquired skill I always thought she just didn't care anymore, that she was tired of fighting the other girls.
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>>101533255
Yes, I'm sure she just let Mami tie her up and go off to die to Charlotte, makes perfect sense.
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>>101532976
Are you trying to imply that Sayaka doesn't get her shit tossed by a few Clara in both the anime and the manga?
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>>101533336
What the fuck does that have to do with anything.
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>>101533336
We are talking about the timestop of Homura here, anon, and Homura has no control over the Clara Dolls
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>>101533135
Poor Homura just isn't a people person. The only person she is really able to get along with after becoming the timeleaping master of darkness is Kyouko since Kyouko doesn't give a shit if Homura fucking sucks at being affable since Kyouko puts on the EDGE too.

I'm not sure if it's so much a lack of planning as Homura just sucking at niceties and the labrynth of social bullshit that needs to be navigated with Mami, not to mention Mami's tendency to kill whomever she's working with after Sayaka gets her dumb ass killed.

Homura probably should have made her intentions clearer to Mami, at the very least telling her that Madoka was someone close to her BEFORE Kyuubey ran into her and Sayaka.
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>>101533255
Haha, one wonders if she ever fought any of the girls to begin with. She still seems pretty hurt whenever someone doesn't trust her.
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>>101533477
She has control of Clara. She doesn't have control over Lotte and Luiselotte.
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>>101533477
I'm not the timestop anon. I'm merely bringing up the point that Hommando is pretty weak compared to Bowmura, as we can see from the witch she creates.
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>>101533579
I'm sure she loves being covered in tomatoes.
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>>101533514
I don't think it's her being offended at Mami not trusting her as her thinking she's useless shit for letting the situation fall out of her hands yet again and alienating Madoka this early.
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>>101533333
Not every timeline is equal. Later when blue became witch she actually implies that she does not mind the other girls to die, she only cares for Madoka and the other girls dying means they aren't in her way anymore. Homura gettind tied up when she had absolutely no problem killing the witch that killed Mami makes even less sense. In the end it's just matter of interpretation and I like to see it that way, that Homura is just too focused on Madoka and not that the show is full of asspulls and plot holes becfause I enjoy it more the way I interpret it.

You can believe whatever you want.
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Since when could Sayaka best Homu again?

All I saw was that Sayaka predicted Homu was going to use her timestop and stopped it, which shouldn't even count because Homu is somewhat shaken and confused at that moment and Sayaka has extra knowledge over her.
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>>101533673
No, I'm sorry, you're retarded. She absolutely did not want Mami to go off to fight Charlotte because she knew there was a good chance she would die, which would bring Madoka dangerously close to making a contract. Homura clearly did not see the ribbons coming. Thinking she would ever voluntarily get tied up is inane.
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>>101533649
She is clearly shown giving them commands at least three times. During the Kyuubey fight she points them at Kyuubey to execute him, during the Homulilly fight she points at Sayaka &co. And in the last sequence she's clearly seen telling them no, they can't have Kyouko's apple, and they chuck it in the river.
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>>101533579
I doubt she does, in fact I think the Clara are more capable of reasoning and cognition than Homulilly is.
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>>101532764
>Mami was prepared for a fight
>Homura wasn't expecting Mami to actually defend a witch
GEE I WONDER
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What are the spinoff mangas that are worth reading? I'm already reading TDS now, is there anything else?
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>>101533672
eh, I wonder. Homura isn't exactly impervious.
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Mami => Sayaka > Madoka > Kyouko > Kyuubey > Homura
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>>101533672
I don't consider those mutually exclusive.
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>>101533778
>All I saw was that Sayaka predicted Homu was going to use her timestop and stopped it, which shouldn't even count because Homu is somewhat shaken and confused at that moment and Sayaka has extra knowledge over her.
Right there. That is what being bested is, having the clear advantage over the other.
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>>101533912
>Sayaka
>anywhere but dead last
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>>101533832
Mami doesn't remember witches, and just two minutes ago she explained her deep familiar bond with Bebe. I don't see the basis within your claim.
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>>101533983
Sayaka is a great and interesting character.
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>>101533832
>Homura didn't expect that Mami would defend her fucking pet.
That just makes Homura more of an idiot than she already is.
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>>101533912
>Mami & Sayaka top two megucas
there are people that think this??
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>>101533785
>she knew there was a good chance she would die, which would bring Madoka dangerously close to making a contract
No, I'm sorry, you're retarded.
Madoka was utterly and completely convinced that she would make a contract after the job is done but Mami's death made her second guess her choice. Did you even watch the show?
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>>101534026
>hypocritical bitch whose selfishness acted as the catalyst for everyone else's suffering in countless timelines, only for her to come back in Rebellion with a superiority complex
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>>101533948
It's really trivial and unprovable either way, but I thought her grief was more inward turned than being hurt by Mami's feelings about her. Though Madoka's feelings probably killed her inside.

>>101533832
What is the point of this response? The person asserted Homura is bad with surprises ergo she isn't the strongest, which >>101533135 and >>101531157 explained also. Take your shitposting elsewhere.

>>101533815
See
>>101533794
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>>101534196
Either one or both of the girls was going to have to make a contract out of necessity before Homura showed up. I'm pretty sure that's his point.
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>>101534209
And that makes for an interesting character, whether you like her or not. More so than anyone else in the cast.
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>>101534026
I thought we were talking power levels.
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>>101534196
You misunderstand me. When a witch has just killed the only magical girl in the room and is now looking at you, your choices are to make a contract or die. Homura only barely showed up in time to save them.
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>>101534275
But that's not what happened.

Homura showed up in time. This just further strengthens my point of view that Homura's thoughts are much more complex than your simple mind even tries to comprehend.
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>>101534238
I guess I should've been more clear. I think they aren't under Homura's control like simple marionettes, but rather that they are sentient and capable of independent action. They simply consider Homu their master so they listen to her.
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>>101534287
>pure and innocent girl who lacks confidence in herself finds herself bearing a tremendous responsibility for the fate of the world
>weak and fragile girl endures endless suffering for the aforementioned girl, only to fall deeper into despair after she's freed from her trials by her own love and lack of belief in herself, resulting in her becoming evil to make the world better in her eyes
>a lonely girl who puts up a tough act to conceal her selfishness, uncertainty and fears finally meets girls she can relate with
>a pure and innocent girl naively wishes for her family's happiness but ends up destroying it, turning her into a jaded and cruel individual until she meets someone in the same predicament as her, leading to her regaining her empathy

Nope, Sayaka's way worse than them.
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>>101534431
If Homura had taken a few more seconds to make her way through the witch barrier, it would have happened.

Are you seriously positing the theory that Homura walked into the barrier for the sole purpose of delivering a warning that she knew Mami had no intention of heeding, then getting tied up on purpose for NO REASON so that she can then go and barely save the girls before they're eaten and/or make contracts? Rather than the idea that she simply didn't expect to be tied up.
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Skills in fighting:
Mami ≥ Kyouko > Homura ≥ Sayaka > Madoka
Magic Power:
Madoka > Mami > Kyouko > Sayaka > Homura
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>>101534561
If you seriously think you can sum up the characters in Madoka in one greentext sentence each, I don't think you respect a single one of them enough to be afforded an opinion.
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>>101534490
That I agree with. I thought the original assertion was that they were like Luiselotte and Lotte who actively ignored Homulilly's demands. Clara, for all their brattiness, are pretty good to their Mama. They are the only minions that are preprogrammed to actually give a shit about her and cry for her death.
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>>101534026
>Homura saves them from dying to Charlotte
>GIB DAT GREEF SEED BACK IT BELONGZ 2 MAMI OMGGGGG WAHH
>Gets mad that some other girl likes this guy she never bothered to tell she likes
>Treats being a magical girl as a game despite just seeing Mami die
>Literally wastes the grief seed Homura gives her by throwing it away
>Purposely lets her soul gem become tainted to become a witch
She is not a good character
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>>101534431
I'm not the anon you were having your "you're retarded" "no you are" pissing contest with. Please don't bully.
Also, Elly fight shows that Homura isn't one step ahead of anything. Sayaka showed up in the nick of time.
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>>101534666
Is this guy for real?
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>People trashing on all the characters
Seriously? They're all good in their own way and got a decent amount of character development. I understand that you might not like some of their personalities, but at least you can appreciate them as good characters.
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>>101534999
/a/ cannot appreciate characters. It's either waifu or bitch needs to die.
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>>101534999
I think some people are just bored and trying to stir up the old best girl wars as entertainment.
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>>101534655
>crocodile tears
>constantly bully Homura
Yeah, nah, they fucking hate her.
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>>101535066
She's their little sister, the 15th Clara. They bully her with love.
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>>101534648
>taglines imply I don't know what I'm talking about

Sayaka's character "progression" makes her flatly unlikeable. She's constantly a burden to everyone else and refuses to not act like a selfish cunt every time she's given the opportunity. Then, when she comes back to save Homura from her own suffering, she decides to talk down to her because of her position as Madoka's angel even though she knows what a cunt she was and how Homura tried endlessly to save her too. Not only that, but she contradicts herself by getting close to Kyouko even though she harassed Homura by the same logic. And finally, she flat out bitches at Homura for her actions in the end of the movie not simply on the grounds of morality or what Homura plans to do with Madoka, which would be understandable, but her own standings. She's pissed she can't be Madoka's angel anymore, and is completely ungrateful at being given a second chance at life (whereas Nagisa couldn't care less and was just having fun). And to top it all off, she actually realizes that Homura did something right since she was glad to meet Hitomi and Kyousuke again.

She's a thoroughly dumb piece of shit.
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>>101535277
Ai can be Homura or Madoka, and doesn't change the fact that they hate Homura.
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>>101534572
Why do you always fall back to strawmen? I expressed my opinion clearly yet you seemingly always manage to misunderstand me.

Let me try again:
Homura primarily cares for Madoka as stated in the show because she is the reason she made her wish. If she gives up on Madoka, it will make all her efforts useless and she too will become a powerful witch.
Homura however still cares for the others as heavily implied. She had more than enough opportunities to kill the other girls but she never really fights them, at least in the show. She is visibly hurt when she isn't trusted but she gave up. You would be tired too to explain the same shit who knows how many times when that usually just makes everything worse. Just imagine how tired she must be of that shit.
The combination of her good character, complete exhaustion and absolutely prioritizing her goal to finally break the cycle all motivate her to not fight Mami, to give up resisting and to just save Madoka in time in case Mami dies once again in a time line that most likely will be a failure again.

Summarized: she did not plan to get tied up but she could have resisted. She could have tried harder to 'rescue' Mami but she slowly doesn't really care enough anymore. She knew perfectly well of the danger that Madoka could make a contract and that's why she rushed to the rescue.

Sounds much better than 'Homura'S ability is completely overpowered but asspulls make her the weakest'.
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>>101535438
Dude, she wasn't talking down to Homura, she was trying to help Homura's peace of mind and tell her not to be so hard on herself. She specifically said that wishing for a happy world isn't a sinful thing, it's not hypocritical of her at all to spend time with Kyouko.

>she flat out bitches at Homura for her actions in the end of the movie not simply on the grounds of morality or what Homura plans to do with Madoka, which would be understandable, but her own standings
Where the hell is this coming from? She's mad at Homura because she tampered with the Law of Cycles.
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>>101535457
I don't think the Madoka is Ai. She doesn't have the hand crank or the runes. I'm pretty sure the two dolls are simply symbolism for how Homura and Madoka were both lying dormant at the point in the film where we see the dolls--right before gondola scene.
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>>101535503
>she did not plan to get tied up but she could have resisted
This simply doesn't make any sense. Being tied up very strictly limits her ability to protect Madoka, if she could have avoided it, she would have. Period.
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>>101526084
She didn't even fight Sayaka. Why do you idiots keep saying this? Also, fuck off back to tumblr.
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>>101535066
>constantly bully Homura
>constantly
You mean the one time where they threw tomatoes at her and at all other times unquestioningly obeyed her every command? Cool doujinshi you're writing there.

While I don't dispute they are probably insincere in their mourning of Homura, they do listen to her, and are at least programmed to look like they care about Homura. Which is kind of sad, that Homura needed to create something specifically to mourn her loss, since she thinks nobody else loves her.
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>>101535438
>She's pissed she can't be Madoka's angel anymore
Was with you until here, Sayaka was angry because she just saw what Homura did like betraying Madoka trust and take control of the Law of Cycles, she just saw Homura go full darkness and tear Madoka in half, she doesn't know nothing about what has happened between Madoka and Homura or the reasons why Homura did what she did and Homura didn't explain anything to her.
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>>101533011
Because Sayaka literally ran away.
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>>101537285
Why is Madoka so cute?
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>>101537655
Because Ume-sensei specifically designed her to be cute.
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>>101527347
Did you not hear the part where kyubey said that the magical girls' powers' were based off of their own karmic destiny? It makes sense for Homura to have the lowest, because she had that heart condition that made her stay in the hospital. Mami had alot because she has big tits. When you have big tits, it is easy to become important. Especially with that pretty face of hers
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>>101538000
That's not the sole indicator. The wish itself can give a number of stat benefits depending on what it is. Homura simply pooled all of hers into her power.
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>>101538157
but it is still based off of your own karmic destiny. Yeah, even if you had the karmic destiny of Madoka, you could still waste it on cheese and get shit powers. But if you wish to be god with the karmic destiny of an ant, you would still have shit ability's. see Sayaka in episode 4 or 5 I believe. The one after she fights with Kyoko and wonders why she sucks
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>>101535630
She look down in Homura, she was in a position to really help Homura, to explain her the situation and be her ally but instead she only gives her a confusing advice and acts as her enemy for no reason, Sayaka believed she was in complete control of the situation and act exactly like Homura did in her timeloop and ends up biting her ass.
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>>101538358
I don't see the basis for your claims. Sayaka's wish isn't very high. It's at the point where it can be considered a miracle that tips the karmic scales, unlike wishing for cake, but I don't think it's nearly on the level of Kyouko or Homura's wishes. Plus, we don't actually have a way to compare the karmic destiny of the megucas. Even if we did, it would be truncated because we wouldn't know how they compare to other meguca throughout history.

I'm just saying that there are so many unknowns that it's silly to try and compare power levels. Because we all know Homura is the strongest now.
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>>101539089
>it's silly to try and compare power levels
Especially in an anime like Madoka where fighting is an after thought. This isn't a fucking Shonen.
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>>101539089
>Because we all know Homura is the strongest now.
Madoka can win against her with just smile.
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>implying Mami is still the strongest

Madokami =? Akuma Homura > Sayaka > Nagisa > Mami > Kyouko

Kyouko is a badass, but she's a regular meguca and the others aren't. Moemura sucks at everything though.
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>>101539527
This is how Madoka needs to win if there is going to be a good end. 'Fight fire with fire', love with love.
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>>101539660
Sayaka sucks. She got her bitch ass chest kicked in by Homura even after she had the advantage.
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>>101539660
>Sayaka and Nagisa
>stronger that Mami
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>>101539785
Let me know when Mami summons her witch.
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>>101539527
Madoka's smile is a miracle of the universe.
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>>101539785
But Mami is strongest meguca (outside of Madoka since that would be cheating). Sayaka and Nagisa have accepted their witch parts and become part of the law of cycles.
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>>101539822
She doesn't need no witch, she has fucking tanks, nigga.
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>>101539822
Sayaka and Nagisa have unlocked their full potential, yes, but how does them being stronger than Mami logically follow from that? Their potential was nowhere near hers to begin with and they have almost no battle experience. 0 times two is still 0, Sayakafags.
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>>101539962
Octavia > Keki canon
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>>101539962
Muskets are cool because Mami learned literally every component of their chemical and mechanical makeup in order to be able to reproduce them.
However, with shit like Tiro Finale, railway gun, tank, clone, etc., she's just like "It's ribbon, I ain't gotta explain shit". Mami is decidedly OP.
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>>101540052
And what do you base this exactly? Oktavia never do anything impressive, fuck she had to get help from Kyouko to be useful.
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>>101540052
Homulily = completely useless
Homulily + familiars = best witch

Normal familiars can kidnap humans, that isn't impressive. Homu's Clara dolls can kidnap megucas.

>>101540043
Nagisa could.... blow bubbles and turn regular cheese into swiss cheese or something.
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>>101540336
>get help from Kyouko and Madokami
Fix.
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>>101540052
Yeah, this is what the Gustav Cannon does. You'll notice that the explosion is hundreds of times larger than the timebomb explosion that kills Oktavia in timeline 3.

Compared to that utter destruction, Oktavia is so weak that she can't even crack the isolation field on her own--she has to borrow Kyouko's spear.
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>>101540043
To be fair, inside the barrier, no matter what crazy stuff, both Kyouko and Mami could do it without worrying darkening their soulgems.
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Since when could Sayaka control her witch form?
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>>101540472
Just how much raw magical output is this? Holy Madokami, Mami is simply on a different level. On top of that, her musket and ribbon spam makes it apparent that she needs not conserve her magic because she has so much of it, and she's able to quash both familiars and witches without running dry, unlike Kyouko and Sayaka.
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>>101540472
How did she get that? Why is everyone stupid strong in Rebellion?
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>>101540472
Maybe because a spear is a bit more useful for that, or maybe it's like that to show the megucas working together to save Homu.

>>101540521
Rebellion.
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>>101540668
Homura wills it.
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>>101540341
That why they will be at her side in the final battle.
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>>101540482
Eh, could they? Isn't it the opposite? Nagisa/Sayaka are outside the cycle, but Kyouko and Mami are still alive.
Though, considering that, you could say that Nagisa and Sayaka's power is severely limited because they're detached from the karmic cycle. This correlates to the idea that Homura's fusion of hope and despair is so much better than Sayaka/Nagisa's because she does so while still within the bounds of karma.
I dunno. Again, powerlevels and lore are ambiguous as fuzzy balls.
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>>101540670
>shoes on gothloli Homura
dropped
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>>101540607
Mami has the larger mana pool after Madokami but is obvious that the barrier has special qualities that help them to preserve magic.
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>>101540670
Of course it is anon. Anything is more useful than Oktavia. After all, isn't the witch's despair simply equivalent to the girl's hope? Sayaka didn't ever power up, and now she never can because she's outside the karmic cycle. Same with Nagisa.
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>>101540736
What do you mean?
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>>101540341
I wouldn't say completely useless. She's like Walpurgisnacht--she's not designed for fighting infantry, she brings destruction on a massive scale with her ribbon hands.
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>>101540752
Homura has nothing to fight as long as Madoka is by her side. Her final battle will be against Madokami and it will be heartbreaking to watch.

Maybe Madoka will pull Gretchen out of her hat like Sayaka and Nagisa can.

>>101540829
Sorry.

>>101540922
Didn't /a/ think that Homura was Walpurgisnacht for a while?
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>>101540847
>the other megucas are able to keep purified soul gems by funneling all of their despair into Homura's
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>>101540882
All of that crazy shot happens in Homura's labyrinth, so they are as strong as Homura allows them to.
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>>101540829
I know that feel. Let me help you out.
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>>101541096
Oh, so that explains why Mami got a power boost. So there's no guarantee she can do clones and keki canon's outside of the labyrinth?
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>>101541050
I really don't think that's the case, I think it has to do with the Isolation Field.
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>>101541013

It's not if Madoka for some reson desides to side with her.

>>101540777

Well Mami and Kyouko livbed inside the barrier for over a month , hunting nightmares, and they didn't feel anything or the need to recharge their soulgems..
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So let's say I wanna get into Madoka.

I know there's the series and the movies but is there any other lesser known material I should watch or read?
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>>101541013
>Didn't /a/ think that Homura was Walpurgisnacht for a while?

It was a crack theory for a long time. Mainly because it took so long for Walpurgisnacht's origin to be properly explained by official sources.
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>>101541237
not until after you watch the series, at least.
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>>101541160
The magical energy cost of the Gustav cannon would be too much in the outside world, clones are probably okay.
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>>101541050
Homura is the best one to take it. She's not hurt by despair anymore.

>>101541207
I want to believe, but I can't. Besides, no matter who it's against, a goddess and a devil makes a pretty one-sided fight.
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>>101526084
and this is one half the reason I hate Madoka.
You have infinite Prep Time. Infinite.
How do you fuck up when you have literally forever to plan and learn shit.
If I had even 100 years in a loop I would fucking everything about everything and become a 12th level intellect and do insane shit even the Incubators wouldn't know what the fuck to do.
Then I use my knowledge to time travel and fuck Madoka's mom while she's pregnant with her because I fucking could, I'm the hero who killed an entire race of idiots that don't understand Heat Death ain't for a long ass fucking time
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>>101541370
The only way that Akuma Homura and Madokami would need to team up is if the Incubators tap into the power of emotions and become as powerful as them.
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>Homura repeated her mission for an tremendous amount of time/loops
>still shit at using her magic in Rebellion/last timeline

what a retard
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>>101541237

>is there any other lesser known material

There are a few Mangas

>I should watch or read?

No.
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>>101541393
Butterfly effect can really be a bitch.
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>>101541330
How do you know how much magic it takes to make a clone? If she could make a clone on the outside world, why didn't she make one to prevent herself form dying at the hands of Charlotte?
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>>101541514
>he hasn't read TDS
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>>101526084
>can't even win against Mami or Sayaka
Do you even watch the series?
Homu had humiliate Sayaka countless time like time stop+shield bash to make her unconscious. She even kill Sayaka witchform countless time in many timeline. In Rebellion Sayaka have to runaway like idiot when Homu start to activate her power.
Homu can't win over Mami because of the plot armor. Mami had prepare many surprise attack beforehand before they fight in rebellion.
If Mami didn't tied Homu with ribbon or prepare the her copy first then she will never have a chance to win.
Mami herself also state that they are not fighting a fair fight since Mami sneakily make Homu's power useless before they fight.
>she could make automatic machineguns
Nope she can't make automatic machinegun since its too complicate for her

>Sayaka learns how to take control of her witch form
You talk like she develop herself to take control of her witchform but in true any magical girl who go to Yuri Vahalla can do that and the prove is the airhead like Bebe can control her witchform easily and maybe better than Sayaka. Homu is the only one who can truely control her witchform and don't succumb to despair which Sayaka will never be able to do it by herself since she always need help from Law of Cycle to control it. The prove is that Homura state that Law of Cycle is still active that's why shit like Sayaka can still control her witchform.
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>>101541799
>Do you even watch the series?
Do you even watch the movie?
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>>101541736
Because reasons. Rebellion Mami had time to improve her technique by, you know, having friends to boost her confidence and desire to show up how much of a cool sempai she could be. And during Mami's fight against Charlotte she was trying to show up to Sayaka and Mami, she was overconfident and let the attention get to her.
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>>101535630
It's clearly that Sayaka trying to show-off and she realize that she can't outmatch Homu that's why she runaway.
>wishing for a happy world isn't a sinful thing
Then why she bitching at Homu in the ending when Homu create that world again, it's clearly Sayaka is a bitch who start to hate Homu out of nowhere first.
In third timeline in TV series, Sayaka scold at Homu when she told all the truth without any good reason that's clarify Sayaka's true nature that she is a bitch who can't accept the truth she don't like.
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>>101540341
Doens't that mean Mami, Madokami, Kyouko lose to Homura since they got kidnapped easily by her familiars?
And it takes all the witch in LOC + Mami + Madoka + Kyouko + Sayaka + Bebe to win over with Homura witch form, doesn't that means Homura is the strogest in the series?
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>>101534431
>This just further strengthens my point of view that Homura's thoughts are much more complex than your simple mind even tries to comprehend.

Wow, you are fucking insufferable.
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>>101542242
I don't think there's any clear power levels in Madoka. Homura is the same girl who can't beat a barrel in a fight, but can rip a goddess in half and rewrite the universe.
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>>101541120
Thank you based anon. Have some lewds.
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>>101541799
>Homu is the only one who can truely control her witchform and don't succumb to despair which Sayaka will never be able to do it by herself since she always need help from Law of Cycle to control it
You're assuming a lot of shit here, considering we don't know how Yuri Valhalla works, but for what Sayaka says Madoka don't magically gives you control over your witch, she just gives you a safe place where you can deal with your problems while she makes sure that nothing bad happens
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>>101542580
Why does her hair so conveniently cover her nipples?
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>>101538358

You could say that Homura's wish was to deny her own destiny, essentially denying her own powers.

The more she fights her destiny, the more her powers fight back against her. Such is Karma
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>>101542592
M wvwn if that' rueeh, you have to be dead to do that, which means nothing.
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>>101542580
>Homu without flatchest
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>Accidentally bought this the other day.

http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ088337.html

Share or not share? All previous links are dead.
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>>101542592
Meh, even if that's true you have to be dead to do that, which means nothing.
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>>101542771
>M wvwn if that' rueeh
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>>101542788
Homura's tits change every other shoot in the series and the movies because Shaft can't into consistency.
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>>101542817
>eternal peace means nothing.
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>>101542870
But flat Homu is best Homu.
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>>101527561
Mami regretted her wish
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>>101526084
Are you talking abut Fanfiction?
Only thing a see in a series is that Sayaka got beat down by Homura many times and at the end of rebellion she got one clap from Homu to erase her witch. Gen also state that if Magical Girl fighting each other the one who struck first will win.
In rebellion, Mami struck first and prepare her own duplicate before they fight while Homura fighting unprepare and got many disadvantage but she can still manage to fight on par with Mami.
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>>101532441
It's not out yet, though
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>>101542811
Share, please.
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>>101532302
It's from the Pachinko.
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>>101542870
Don't pass the buck here anon, we're talking about your taste here.
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>>101542580
>surgical scar
My fucking dick
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>>101543088
It'll take a while, mega is slow.
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>>101543228
Mumi is a pervert who likes tying up girls.
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>>101543228
I saved it because of the scar. This anon >>101543261 has majestic taste.
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>>101542975
I really hope Homura get a new white dress when she reunites with Madoka again, her Akuma outfit is just fucking ugly.
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>>101543493
White dress a shit. She needs a cute black dress that isn't so indecent.

>>101543415
Is there more scar homu?
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>>101543415
It would be nice if megucas could scar. Kyouko would be pretty damn cute by now.
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>>101543631
don't be silly, where's she gonna find one of those?
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>>101543631
>She needs a cute black dress
That's good too, while is not indecent is fine.
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>>101543631
>Is there more scar homu?
I used to have more, but I lost the folder with a partial HDD memory corruption. Sorry, anon.
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>>101543869
Torinone usually draws scar Homu.
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>>101543672
>episode 1
>Homura walks in the room with the scars of a hundred walpurgisnachts

>>101543869
Oh. Being Homu is suffering.
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>>101544014

I love torinone for that reason. Mostly for mami, but that too. Unless I'm mixing up my artists. I think I might be
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>>101543493
Well Japan like those, for the balance stuff, the wing are OK.
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>>101544204
I fucking wish he stopped russing us with his 69 pictures.
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>>101544014
L-lewd...!
You have my eternal thanks. Have a pretty Homu.
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>>101544240
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>>101543672
>>101544060
Why are scars so attractive?
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So why are all of you people over-thinking this stuff about Mami and her flintlocks? She uses those because they match her style. If she really wanted to, she could probably use machine guns and the like, but why? She has enough magic to summon fucking cannons and armies of flintlocks. And the flintlocks are also messed up, as a regular catridged pistol round would likely go through the ball round since it would likely be of higher velocity and slightly pointed. But it does not matter since the megucas are using astral plane logic. Thats at least one way to look at it, and thats what I thought the whole series was about, because episode 1 made it seem that way with the dream stuff. Was a bit sad it wasnt about AP though
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So I'm just supposed to post pictures of Homura now?
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>>101544333
Why is KyouHomu so attractive?
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>>101544459
>If she really wanted to, she could probably use machine guns
Confirmed for not knowing what you're talking about. Go shitpost elsewhere.
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>>101544501
This show is obviously about girls who enter the astral planes and fuck around with alien entities. The witches barriers are more like black holes into other planes
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>>101544501
He's a newshit who was namefagging for months and finally learned how to trip. Of course hes retarded.
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Let's list all the things Homura did wrong.

>Sparing Sayaka

Whoops, I guess that's all of them.
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>>101544598
Come on, let's not start this.
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>>101544598
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>>101544598
If you're trying to incite a color war, at least do it right, faggot. No ones falling for your shit.
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>>101544614

Start what?
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>>101544614
>>101544680
Remember when color wars were fun and jestful rather than seen as a personal attack on everyone's opinions?
Me neither.
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>>101544477
Sexiest megucas?
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High on the hill was a lonely Mami.
Lay ee odl lay ee odl lay hee hoo.
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>>101544754
Now she has a loli.
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>>101544748
They make a good team.
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Look who's calling, /a/.
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>>101544792
Nagisa a shit.
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>>101544839
Why would Homu call a faggot like me?
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>>101544839
It's best meguca.
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>>101532441
I'll never comb Mami's hair, this world isn't fair.
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>>101544884

Probably to ask you to quit fapping to meguca.
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>>101544995
She does it too!
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>>101544995
So the call would go:
>Anon, stop fapping to me.
>No.
>Okay
>Bye Homu.
>Bye.
>hangup
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>>101544965
You'd want to use a brush anyway.
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>>101545068

>implying a pure maiden like Homura would do lewd things with pictures of her platonic friend Madoka

>>101545122

>fapping to meguca

What kind of sick place is this?
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>>101545266
Blame Homura for being so attractive. It's her fault, not mine.
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>>101545266
>her platonic friend Madoka
In what universe?
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This guy's latest comic is silly. I think Sayaka's is trying to see Homura's akuma and raise her an oni? But it's really not a raise.
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>>101545266
>platonic friend
But anon-kun, it's love!
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>>101545355
What the fuck's going on with her eyes?
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>>101545552
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>>101545266
>platonic friend Madoka
Come, anon, is quite obviously now that Homura wants the Madoka.
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>>101544839
>1:40 AM
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>>101545464
>>101545494
>>101545626

They're just friends. Totally straight. Girls can't even love girls, anyway.
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>>101545708
AI YO
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Madohomu is only truth in the universe.
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>>101545708
You need to be 18 to post here, Hitomi-chan.
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>>101545868
I seriously need to make a HomuMado kissing folder.
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>>101545913

>Mura and Doke will never rub faces again.
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>>101545986
>Mura and Doke
Get out.
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>>101545708
tfw I'll never get the chance to strip Meduka's socks
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>>101545986
That's how megucas get pregnant.
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>>101545934

It's the best.
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>>101526084
The transformations were so fucking amazing.
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>>101545934
Winter folder is best folder.
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>>101546165
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>>101546282
Summer is good too.
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I hope we get to see Homura being yandere for a while in 4.0 or S2.

>Homura is in every class with Madoka
>Homura sits next to Madoka in every class
>Madoka can't get up without Homura coming too
>Madoka can't hang around friends who aren't Homura without Homura appearing
>Homura takes the same way home as Madoka, because they're neighbors
>Homura visits Madoka frequently, for extended periods
>Madoka feels uniquely uncomfortable taking using the bathroom and taking baths
>Madoka can't shake the feeling of being watched
>Whenever Madoka starts thinking too hard about things, Homura shows up
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They love each other
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>>101546363
You can't share a scarf in the summer.
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>>101546619
I don't think it would be good for the franchise to change genres this late into it's life cycle.
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>>101546694

This is what love looks like.
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>>101546619
I want to see Homura taking out her frustration on Sayaka sexually.
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>>101546745
>Homura
>top
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>>101546800

No one would blame her. Sayaka is the sexiest, after all.
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>>101546967
Sluttiest maybe.

Just look at that butt.
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>>101541799
>Homu can't win over Mami because of the plot armor.
>plot armor
This is what Homurafags believe
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>>101547117

Sayaka is just a pure maiden with an unnaturally sexy body. Hitomi made sure of it.
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>>101547271
Sayaka is a slut and always will be a slut, is time to accept the truth, faggot.
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>>101547271
She's about as pure as a bag of grief seeds.
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>>101547388
>>101547451

stop bully
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>>101547726
Goofy bitch.
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>>101547726
It's okay, we'll wipe her memory afterwards and be friends again.
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>>101526084
>dat stretching
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>>101543088
>>101543336
>>101542811
It is done, just unzip and fap.

https://mega.co.nz/#!pAsxlB7L!BRgzygKav_ebIbcrB3OZcRwyv9FIuaDTkmsIG_F3obo
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>>101546619
I don't mind it being somewhat weird or uncomfortable, but that's way too much.

Although it might be funny to have everyone be afraid of Homura and think she's scary, but Madoka sees through most of it since Homura only shows Madoka her smile/feelings/emotions/etc.

To have it scare away Madoka seems silly at this point. We've come this far, I just want some warm HomuMado.
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>>101546619
I hope we get to see Homura dying
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>>101548294
She's already dead.
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>>101548041
Thank you so hard.
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>>101548294
We already did in Rebellion. She was reborn anew, hence the Salamander.
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>>101548518
No prob, maybe next time I'll buy Homura's game by GrandCross, but I think it has DRM.
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>>101548041
>>101548518
You Homufags disgust me.
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>>101548550
Not enough yet.

Homura dying. For good and forever. Unloved by everyone. That day I will cry tears of joy
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>>101548634
Those aren't Homufags.
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>>101548686

What did the homu ever do to you?
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>>101548294
Don't worry anon, Homura will die and counter entropy forever, leaving all the other girls to live normal lives and kill off all the magical threats to the world, and nobody will remember her except for Madoka, who doodles her in her notebook.
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>>101548749
He's just some edgy kid. He shitpost all the time. Ignore him.
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>>101548756
The cycle of suffering intensifies.
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>>101548813
No, it ends. Finally, Homura does something useful with herself. Getting erased from existence.
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>>101548686
You disgust me.

Homu will be with Madoka forever in Yuri Valhalla.
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>>101548813
Well If the there is no more magical girls then than means no more suffering.
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>>101548856
Not when someone remembers her.
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>>101548756
Pic

>>101548856
This guy understands things so well.
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Have you accepted Madoka Kaname as your personal waifu and best girl yet, /a/?
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>>101548983
>qbfags thinks qb stands a chance against Homura
topkek
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>>101549035
If Madoka is my waifu, that must make me Homu.

i am ok with this
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>>101548912
The chuuni drawings of a magical devil girl in some dumb girl's notebook does not equal existence anon. Maybe Madoka can have wet dreams about getting raped by said devil girl.
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Why must meguca suffer?
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>>101549280
That is lewd, anon.
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>>101549035
She can't resucitate Mami's parents nor Kyoko's family.
0/10 would not worship
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>>101549350
It makes for an interesting story. Butcher does suffering right without over doing it to the point of it being redundant and stale. It's also realistic how he writes it. Just like in real life, there suffering, but we can overcome it sometimes, which is exactly what Madoka did in episode 12.
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Why is Homura such a bitch.
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>>101549416
Or we can learn to live with it as the price to get the good things.

Homura master race
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>>101549429
Homura is a wrestler.
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>>101549350
Unmei
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>>101549429
She doesn't know what FUN is.
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>>101549429
Because she betrayed her one and only friend and ruined the lives of everyone else, all so she can sit back and watch them dance around as her own puppets. Too bad she's too worthless to be a decent god since she can't even keep the blue bitch down or tape on half of a moon, much less obtain Madoka's love. Of course, Madoka would never love a bitch like her.
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>>101549050
>implying the universe is not already doomed
So delusional of you.
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>>101549547
>he thinks Qb is some petty vindictive faggot
You don't even like Qb. You just hate Homura and think he's the only one who can kill her.
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>>101549541
Yes Homura we know, stop shitposting and go to sleep.
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>>101541754
Sounds... tedious
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>>101549711
>implying Homura can even sleep

Have you seen the bags over her eyes? I swear, she's getting uglier by the day. It won't be long before she grows warts on her nose and gets crooked teeth.
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Meguca should love meguca.
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>>101549802
>anyone
>loving Homura
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>>101549786
She'll still be best girl.
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>>101549786
This Homura roleplaying has got to stop.
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>>101533815
They are definitely more cute.
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>>101549859
b-but I love Homura
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>>101549608
QB psychologically tormenting Homura is not something so ridiculous
>Madoka been awfully attached to you lately, don't you think that you're unconsciously affecting her behavior with your powers, Homura?
>If Sayaka is a so a big problem for you, Homura, why don't you erase her existence? You have the power to do so and no one would notice.
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>tfw Madoka gets drunk on AI YO one night
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>>101550108
That's rape.
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>>101550082
Yeah it is, QB is literally Homura's bitch now. It seems more likely that he'd side with Sayaka and help her fight Homura if he does anything at all.
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>>101549859
homu pls
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>>101549608
>They

The Incubators don't have feelings or emotions (except some cases which are seen as a "mental disorder") therefore they would never be able to understand a simple thing such a revenge, hatred or even fear.
But now that Homura decided to keep them, with the daily dosis of torture that this implies, well...
It can't happen as long as Homura is in charge though, but if Madoka finds a way to restore things "back to normal", they would recover access to their... metods, with the difference that they would be able to use them this time.
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>>101550135
It's not rape if it's love.
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>>101550108
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>>101550061
Homura doesn't want anybody's love.
Stay away from her.
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>>101550254
you mean it's okay as long as they blush a lot afterwords
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>>101550313
>Wehihi
Why is Madoka's laugh sounds evil?
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>>101549910
Noroma is very cute, and Ai as Homu is really cute.
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>>101550338
;_;
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>>101550459
Because that laugh releases her self-limiter, and then she can unleash her "evil" desires.
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>>101550338
Too bad, she's getting it either way.
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>>101550537
Noroma look like a slut, what the fuck is she even wears in her head?
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>>101550715
Please don't bully Clara. She's just a little kid.
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>>101545355
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>>101550631
<3 clip chan
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>>101550537
Namake and Reiketsu are my favs.
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Mami is love.
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>>101551484
Homura is also love
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>>101551616
Homura is also the best girl.
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>>101551484
Mami is love, Mami is life.
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>>101551484
>>101551697

Mumi is delightful.
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>>101551616
Homura is a corrupt and impure love and Madoka needs to teach her the true meaning of loving someone.
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>>101551829

Mami is everything, Mami is eternal.
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>>101551972
That's exactly why Homu love is best love.
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>Is a lonely onee-sama who needs friends
>Is the strongest
>Has drills
>Makes tea and keki
>Has oppai
>Is cute

Mumi waifu material.
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>>101551972
Love is chaos, Hope and despair for someone.
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>>101552272
>is an autistic lesbian who cannot into friends
>is emotionally strongest
>has the most beautiful hair of all the megucas
>makes suffering
>is kinda cute in her own weird way

Homora waifu material.
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>>101552473
It's difficult for me to waifu Homura because I know she wouldn't give a shit about me.
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>>101552651
I like to imagine I'm her Madoka.
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>>101526084
>Homura has like, what, a decade of experience over all the other magical girls and she can't even win against Mami or Sayaka?

There's a general misunderstanding about time loop scenarios - a time loop isn't nearly as good a teacher as good old fashioned linear experience. Why? Because you're denied access to full sequences of events, and you're restricted to identical starting conditions of the loop. You can only explore stuff within a fairly narrow cone of possibility.

For example, you will never master kung fu from zero in a two week time loop, because it keeps resetting your body to normal, so you can never get in good enough physical shape to learn past a certain early point, even if you've got a friendly kung fu master next door who happened to be free for that two weeks.

What you CAN do in a time loop is get freakishly good at the range of stuff you can reach within the limits of the scenario. Homura got freakishly good at refighting the same trivial fights she'd fought many times before. But she sucked at handling truly new situations.
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>>101552144
Homu apostle pls go, you don't know anything.
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>>101552651
Just think of it in visual novel terms. You could have set some flags as the first magical boy in the past and the both of you can team up to save Madoka or something.
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>>101552850
>just imagine that Homura is a totally different character
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>>101552272
>tfw you will never accompany her to every battle, cheering at all times, watching her back and helping in whatever you possibly can
>tfw you will never serve her a cup of the hot tea you always bring with yourself after the battle is over, sharing a laugh and discussing how she can improve and fight safer from your spectator point of view
I am getting too autistic for this shit
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>>101552915
When you have your mental fanfics, and your involve yourself, you're changing up characters regardless.
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>>101552850
If we're pretending anyway I might as well be the little girl.
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>>101552755
She got pretty good at losing horribly to Walpurgis over and over again.
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>>101552850
That actually sounds like a lot of fun. I may lucid dream that.
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>>101552978
You gonna put an unnecessary weight on her shoulders, she will always try to protect you and what happened in episode 3 is going to repeat, why would you do that, anon?
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>>101553108
Homura-chan, please go to bed. We're worried about you.
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>>101553192
So she's either lonely and sad or she has friends and dies. Obviously you can't win.
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>>101552992
well duh, that's why no one does that shit
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>>101553202
It's not even night in Japan
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>>101553108
Well It's not easy when you want to keep alive that one, from those aliens that basically controlled humanity since their beginnings.
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>>101551972
>"My desire to save you: the first emotion I had that started this all. And now that I've come this far, the only star left that will help guide my way... You don't have to understand. My words don't have to resonate within you. But still, I beg you. Let me protect you."
Homura is the sweetest girl you'll ever meet, and there is nothing insincere about her.
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>>101553226
You just have to create a warm home where she can return and have faith that she can do her job, after all she's the strongest.
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>>101553246
>that's why no one does that shit
hahahaha. Wow.
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Homu is scary
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>>101553270
She still needs her sleep; she looks terribly sleep-deprived. Any time of day at this point would be good for her.
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>>101552915
It's hard to justify anyone being with Homura considering exactly that. She route-locked herself in such a way that no-one can be with her (except for her best friend Madoka).
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>>101553402
>not becoming meguca and/or devil to fight alongside your waifu
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>>101553396
She has changed since then, anon, she needs to be purified and be healed from all those negative emotions that she keeps in her heart.
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>>101553458
AI YO... even to scare everyone.
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>>101553458
She finally found the answer she was looking for after years of suffering. I don't think it would be possible to contain the emotions she must have felt at that moment.
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>>101553462
Homura can't sleep anymore. She's too powerful to let her mind go uncontrolled like that. She probably doesn't need sleep physically now, but her mind is accustomed to it so never sleeping may be... destabilizing.
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>>101553606
She's evolved past the need to be purified or healed. She's not a magical girl, and the threat of going witch from despair has passed. She accepts all her emotions and turns them into Homu fuel, kinda like a Kyubey.
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>>101553838
That she no longer is in danger of becoming a witch doesn't mean she doesn't need to be cured of her wounds, anon.
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>>101553192
Welp, her death was caused because she tried to finish it off too quickly and was too overconfident. I don't think an preestablished friendship would have the same emotional effect during battle.
Still, having a weakling to take care of the whole time could be deadly. I was saying this remembering Madoka and Sayaka while they were normal humans and didn't died instantly, but then again, Mami saved their asses several times.
Although the part of the hot tea after the battle still stands even if the non-megucas have to wait outside any barrier in a safe area.

...or WOULD still stands
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>>101553403
almost all of the fanart is something between characters in the series

hardly anyone makes it a single character + original character insert
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>>101553606
Yes, that sounds like a happy dream, anon. That's why she's working so hard right now. This is the crucial moment--her happiness is almost within grasp. But until then, she can't slack off.
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>>101554024
Mental fanfics anon. not fanart. Read.
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>>101554010
You'd know she was deeply in love with you when she actually lets you heal her.
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>>101554112
you mean doujins
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>>101554323
Go into a waifufag general (actually don't) and read some of the shit they do. They write fucking fanfics and have dreams of them meeting their waifu and other asinine shit like that.
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Which Homu is Best Homu?
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>>101554660
>which 10/10 is the best
Can't really say.
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>>101554660
I'm particularly fond of Gothloli Homu and Akuma Homura.
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>>101554683
Just pick the 11/10.
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>>101554660
Why pick
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>>101554900
That is wonderful.
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>>101554900
This is what I've always wanted in life and I didn't even know it. Now what do I do?
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>>101554763
Goth Homu a best, Akuma a slut.
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>>101555068
Best flavor of slut.
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>>101555068
Akuma only a slut for Madoka.
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>>101555068
You're just comparing a 10.4 to a 9.5 though. In the end it all rounds off to perfection.
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>>101554994
Look at it until you get tired. Then go to sleep and dream about it.
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>>101555172
Dreaming about megucas is not recommended.
I dreamed I turned into a witch once, and it was extremely painful
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>>101555263
That sounds very interesting though.
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>>101555263
Faggot.
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>>101555328
I wish I could remember my dreams better, because most of the things I can remember are awesome.
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>>101552473
>emotionally strongest
Man, if there is one thing about Homura that I like, is when she cries over Madoka. I don´t mean something mean to her but I think she looks cute when she is with Madoka. She can be her true self.
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>>101555946
Kyouko has that effect too!
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>>101555946
>tfw the true Homu is suffering Homu
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>>101556257
She will never forget that being meguca was suffering.
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>>101556233
No, not really.
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>>101556383
Actually yeah, really.
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>>101556372
It will probably get overshadowed by witch suffering.
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>>101555946
Yeah, one of the things I like is that she remained a kind and caring person to the end. She didn't deteriorate and start to not care about Madoka.
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>>101556499
Her definition of "care" just got creepy is all.
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>>101556257
>>101556372
Not like that. I mean when she is around Madoka, she can be at ease, without worries and enjoying the time with her friend
>tfw since AI YO, is more difficult to no see Homura like a girl in love with her best friend
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>>101556614
It's gotten kinda hard to tell just what the fuck she's thinking now.
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>>101556496
I loved her anger while in that form.
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>>101558592
Angry homu is a good homu too.
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>>101558639
Every flavor of Homu is a good flavor.
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>>101526084
that very scene where it show madoka breakdancing is where i should have dropped it hard enough to leave a crater (i think it was just before or after that cake song scene, where i also should have dropped that absolute shit)

cant believe people actually hail this movie as amazing. and i rated the series 9/10
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>>101561838
The only thing I disliked was the bus scene with Kyouko and Homura. I mean, overall it was good, but what's up with none of them even batting an eyelash at a tower of floating windows and surreal landscape totally out of place? Only when they realized they are looping they seemed surprised.
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>>101561838
But the point was it was not the real world, it was Homura's dream world where everything is rainbows and cakes.
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>>101531138
Don't see Mami making Giant Rideable Death Snakes and Nukes either.
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>>101527347
>became devil in the end
>weakest



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