Shinji voted best anime character of all time by IGN. Now all of the /b/tards on IGN are calling the list shit because Goku is #3 and not #1
This is now Shinji general.
b-but muh hotblooded manly MCs! ;_;
So that's why we have so much /v/ and /b/ these days?
Now get out of here.
>Two 44 dubs
this thread is now legendary.
Is Kaiji, Satou and Tomoko on the list
FUCK THIS IS MAKING ME CRINGE SO FUCKING HARD
>/b/tards want goku
no shit nigga got muscle boobies they all gay as fuck
This is what is wrong with the world
Don't give clicks to that page. It's clickbait.
Report and move along.
is this real life
>Haruhi isn't one of those typical anime school girls. She's super tomboyish, demure, and not at all moe.
>not at all moe
I always thought that the whole 2DEEP4U sentiment was just a joke, but holy shit, there really are some retards who still don't get Evangelion.
It's okay if you don't like it, but justifying it with "HURRR SHINJI IS A PUSSY, IF I WAS A CHILD SOLDIER I WOULD BE SMASHING CUNTS LIKE MAD" makes you look like a fucking retard.
Tomoko isn't a very good character.
Didn't mean to quote.
I'm so glad I have /a/. I'm so glad to have you guys,jesus fucking christ I have never been so happy to have my family.
Come here you reifag, hug me.
/a/ actually has smart people, or at least smarter than the rest of the internet when it comes to anime and manga.
> It's okay if you don't like it, but justifying it with "HURRR SHINJI IS A PUSSY, IF I WAS A CHILD SOLDIER I WOULD BE SMASHING CUNTS LIKE MAD" makes you look like a fucking retard.
That's the most effective way of detecting a manchild.
Shinji is weak, whiny and a crybaby, but by far the best character in the entire Eva cast. The ending is all about him finally dealing with his own weakness, and the series overall is all about him trying to deal with it, forcefully. Sometimes he did really great, other times his life shat on him.
God damn, IGN readers have the shittiest taste I've ever seen.
This man gets it
Do you really need them to tell you Shinji is a better character than Goku?
>Asuka is part Japanese
Why is it that every non-gook character has to be part Nip in Anime/Jap vidya?
These people probably aren't even underage.
Personally I really liked Shinji as an MC
You people really give a fuck about IGN?
Get out then.
So they can handwave the fact that they're still fluent in Japanese
>not kenshin himura
you're all wrong
shinja blows. thats that. i didnt think that anyone actually liked the dude. Tada Banria is clearly the best character ever.
No you fuck. The article poster actually knows his shit. The readers however, are fucking retarded as hell
I can understand beimg an idiot that doesn't know what moe means, but for fucks sake demure is an english word. How the fuck can you call Haruhi a demure character?
Even fucking Renton was a better character than Shinji.
To me, the whole ending was about him learning to love himself. Shinji constantly has to force himself to pilot because he thinks he's worth something when he does. In the ending he accepts not everyone hates him and learns to accept and love himself for who he is and not for what he does or what other people expect of him. It was truly a good ending if you take that into account.
You mean /m/anchild.
The results were alot better than i was expecting when i opened that up, tbh
>8 years old
>end of Buu saga
Im kinda scared to check the date on that. I don't want to feel old.
Ths was an article on ign a few days ago
I loaded about 5 pages of comments and searched for "animes"
There was one person who complained
Depends on where in the world do you live. I watched the Buu saga 15 years ago. Europe got it earlier and USA later.
Most people who can make that distinction are probably not dumb enough to read that article.
Yeah, no, back to your containment board, faggot.
If they had to put a DBZ character on the list (let alone two instead of anyone from One Piece? what the fuck), it should've been him without question.
It has a point. As far as Shinji goes, hes not that great of a "weak" character archetype to be No. 1. He is never sympathetic, and the show tries to push him all the time.
What is wrong with liking Goku? Hes a great Idiot sevant who we see going from a child to an adult. The last genkidama was also very big in scope and it was all sweet.
She is. Very 3-dimensional. A different person on the outside and inside, with a dynamic state of mind.
Remember that most people complaining about Shinji beign #1 probably didn't even watch Evangelion.
I don't know how people manage that. It's a gateway anime of the worst kind.
I smell some ironic shit posting.
They sure have so much good taste.
I agree with gateway but fuck you
Eh, it wasn't terrible. There were some questionable choices and a lot of deserving characters left out though. Who would be on your list, /a/?
Some characters that would make mine:
Makoto Kino (seriously, the lack of magical girls on that list was the most glaring omission to me)
Not the anon you were responding to but while I agree with what you said I have to say I'd have preferred Shinji overcoming his emotional issues without the use of the Tang. It's a good message but having it delivered by what essentially amounts to an acid trip makes it feel like less of a real resolution that it otherwise could have been.
Shinji spends the whole series running away and deflecting his issues. It took the end of the world for hit to confront his issues and only by facing them can he overcome them.
Sort of like real depression.
Why are people so awful
What is wrong anon? Did I hit a nerve in your little isolated mind?
I would start with wondering what kind of "best" I'm rating. Because Shinji can be my #1 tragic character, Goku can be #1 fighter, Hibiki can be #1 hotblooded and Manami can be #1 a shit. But fuck "just best" list.
And all was as it should be
Yeah my complaint is that he didn't get closer to resolving them in the series. Up until the middle of it it looks like things are getting better but then everyone gets tumbled down. I'd be fine with the Tang being that final push over the hump but he went from behind where he started to further than he'd ever been in the span of 20 minutes.
>It's pretty much all shit from Toonami and Adult Swim
>Through the boy Shinji, who is tasked with defeating giant demons trying to destroy his world, we get an intimate peek at the man behind the production trying to defeat his own personal demons.
angels = demons
Let's say "most memorable" for whatever reason.
>tfw you're waifu gets on the list
Feels good man.
IGN still a shit
This is literally the worst list I've ever seen
>making an anime list when all you've seen is entry level
>He hasn't seen Akito the edgy
Seriously why would I even care what people not even worth mentioning thinks?
>light above lelouch
You have 10 hours to tell me why Kintaro Oe isn't on this list
Because even IGN has better taste than you.
How the fuck is Light above L?
Shinji never changed emotionally tough. In the tang a little but that is it.
His reasons for depression are too not great either. Loss of parents? Blaming his father is almost like looking for a scapegoat, an excuse.
He's a short-sighted person as well. Never questioning why he does and for how long.
Then I guess Shinji and Goku (and 1/2 or 1/3 of IGN list) would be pretty high anyway, with addition of some Rozen Maidens, one of TsundeRie as a representative (I would go with Shana, she is hot), Watashi, Sailor Moon and Haruhi or Kyon. That's about it I guess. No better than IGN to be honest, just more girls and less "damn AdultSwim was awesome, I have watched like whole 20 animes there" vibe.
Whoa whoa WHOA
Let's not go fucking crazy here.
>There are many factors involved here: legacy, impact, recognition. But for this list, the most important factor was artistic greatness. We were looking for characters who were something special for their time; unique and powerful in their own way. But, most importantly, we selected characters who changed what we thought anime could be. Characters who weren't so special didn't make the cut, even if they're famous. Sure, there are many anime characters who are wildly famous and provide the engine for a commercial machine, but sales and marketing don't make a character great. Skillful writing, design, and ingenuity make a character great.
Someone was paid to do this.
How is Shirou not there? Shit list.
well light isnt in a retarted show where everyone looks retarted. fuck CLAMP
Probably one of the most well written IGN articles of all time. Of course its readers didn't even read that part.
So has Shinji gotten his happy ending yet?
He was forming connections with people for the first time in his life. So that's something.
As far as why he's depressed, he probably has Major Depressive Disorder. His state of mind isn't typical of a 14 year old even with his troubled family life.
Adult Swim didnt have GTO...or even 20 Anime.
Too obscure. Also: a terrible anime protagonist.
He's a fantastic visual novel protagonist, though.
Is it terrible that I would wear that sweater?
I honestly hate on SnK because its popular.
I remember people jokingly referring to them as animes on 4chan since 2009
Still looks like shit writing to me.
>out-of-place coordinating conjunctions in two of the first 3 sentences
Ledouch shouldn't even be on there.
Having your character be effectively clairvoyant in an attempt to make them "smart" is poor writing, and that goes for Light too. But at least Light limited his absurd foresight to one ridiculous event and didn't string it across the entire anime.
Na I'd wear it too.
>Skillful writing, design, and ingenuity
>Goku is 3
I would wear it too, while drinking from my BEST DAD mug. Everyone would.
Toonami has definitely had over 20 series..they probably have had more than that since the 2012 reboot.
>I love SAO because other anime are shit
I will hit this faggot
your face when one of the episodes is specifically about asuna being shit at japanese
17 of the characters in the list were from shows that aired on Adult Swim.
>or even 20 Anime
And this is wrong.
Dunno, in way its almost shallow yet the show makes it seem so much more complex
>not harem BS
>I love SAO
>but anime is shit because of harem BS
Why do I even read these comments.
Every transfer student that spent their whole life in foreign country suck in japanese class (and of course excel in math) while still being perfectly fluent.
Now you realize why Anno is the master.
He managed to convince almost everybody in the anime world that his story about a kid who should be in therapy piloting a robot is the greatest animated work ever produced by human hands.
This is amazing.
Well, it's not harem BS since each girl gets about 1 episode
The boogeymen are real.
I kind of like that they put Shinji at the top of the list.
Shinji is well-written as fuck. However likable he is pales in comparison to how real he is.
>His reasons for depression are too not great either.
Actual Depression doesn't necessarily have anything to do with a person's life circumstances. Someone can develop Depression even if they're in a generally supportive environment.
>He's a short-sighted person as well.
Most 14 years olds are short-sighted people.
>that all show up again.
He got 2 happy endings. Both Congratulations and One More Final are happy.
Good job Shinji.
He has a great design. And his outlandish naivetity plus his great strengh make him amusing and different at the time.
Only fools can't appreciate Shinji.
I know you guys are commenting as well.
I think you meant to post this on >>>/v/
Don't worry op, you can just delete you're-....
Where are the mods?
How best girl would Shinji be if Shinji was actually a girl?
This article just trolled 20 years worth of western fanbase Shinji hate.
Also the comments are terrifying
he is a girl, go watch alien 9
Asuka would still be better.
Shinji is already best girl, you doofus.
Asuka would be better as a boy.
Don't you mean Oscar?
These comments hurt me.
Shinji is already best girl.
You can always be more best girl.
>This is now Shinji general.
Shinji is the best evan jelly lion
Why did you even come here?
Couldn't you /b/tards just... stay on /b/?
Im actually very surprised a site like IGN had the balls to give him the number 1 spot. I mean, fucking goku is up there, he may be influential, but hes not thought out or well written by any means. Yet Shinji is up there, even with IGN knowing the normalfags would be fucking crybabies about it. I must say, bravo IGN.
Somebody post the mario picture.
Well if there is no reason, that makes him even dumber. "Emo" in every sense of the world.
Also his short-sightedness lacks in general common sense. Why does he want me to do this? For how long? Can I come back?
Even among 14 year olds...Shinji is retarted
Oh shit, I didn't have that one
The collar adds so much
when a normalfag site like IGN acknoledges that, it means anime as a whole is getting more acknoledged as a true media, and not just as childrens chinese cartoons anymore. Of course Shinji is a far greater characther than Goku, who shouldnt even be on that list, mind you.
The reason is it's a chemical imbalance in the brain. People aren't depressed on purpose.
Why do people hate Shinji? All of the "reasoning" I see is people bitching that he's weak and scared.
Basically they're mad that he's not a gary stu self insert.
>Vash on number 20
>not even a mention of Nicholas D. Wolfwood
Fuck you IGN.
Everyone else in the cast was also similarly affected and closed off because they lost someone. Misato lost her father, Asuka lost her mother, Gendo lost Yui, etc. I guess even Rei lost her previous selves. This heavily influenced how they interacted with others and how they perceived themselves.
He may not be an extremely complex character, but I think people should give Toriyama a bit more slack for Goku. Dorky childish MCs that love their friends are boring as fuck now, but mostly because everyone read Dragon Ball and said "I want to make a manga now".
Because at the time most anime protagonists were typical badass-esque heroes, Anno did something very different
Mainstream articles talking about "the animes" is nothing new.
And talking about it like that is so cringeworthy. It reminds me of this poster, which is from 1992.
But that poster is actually good.
Anon, remember Shinji was borderline insane when he was in the real world, he had no breathing time at all to reflect upon these issues. It was only when he denied tang, which can be compared to an acid trip, but i would like to compare it to paradise, that he truly started to understand himself and then start to love himself, even if he would eventualy keep getting hurt. In various ways, Shinji is truly the "Lucifer" of Evangelion, not in the way that he rebbeled agaist god, but in a way that he denied paradise and went to create his own, bringing light to himself and to a new earth. Its truly a one of a kind anime, that has some truly grea characters people seem to miss not because theyre so deep they cant understand them, but because they've never seen anything like it. It was truly a new genesis to the anime world.
It's like these people only watched three episodes of Eva.
>implying they watched any EVA
>implying IGN thinks strength doesn't come out of yelling attack names and bulging muscles
Also keep in mind everything was influenced by Anno's own experience with depression
>This is roughly the world-view for Neon Genesis Evangelion. This is a world-view drenched in a vision of pessimism. A world-view where the story starts only after any traces of optimism have been removed.
>And in that world, a 14-year-old boy shrinks from human contact. And he tries to live in a closed world where his behaviour dooms him, and he has abandoned the attempt to understand himself. A cowardly young man who feels that his father has abandoned him, and so he has convinced himself that he is a completely unnecessary person, so much so that he cannot even commit suicide.
>And there is a 29-year-old woman who lives life so lightly as to barely allow the possibility of a human touch. She protects herself by having surface level relationships, and running away. Both are extremely afraid of being hurt. Both are unsuitable-lacking the positive attitude-for what people call heroes of an adventure. But in any case, they are the heroes of this story.
>They say, "To live is to change." I started this production with the wish that once the production complete, the world, and the heroes would change. That was my "true" desire. I tried to include everything of myself in Neon Genesis Evangelion-myself, a broken man who could do nothing for four years. A man who ran away for four years, one who was simply not dead. Then one thought. "You can't run away," came to me, and I restarted this production. It is a production where my only thought was to burn my feelings into film.
But Fairy Shit has literally the worst fucking characters in any shounen ever.
Who the fuck picked this list? Shit-tier characters all over it. Might as well have been the entire goddamn casts of Naruto and Bleach for all the effort they put into this festering shitpile of a list. Top 25 dicks in their mouths, maybe.
>REAL entertainment for REAL people
I laughed. Still, I've seen worse, but it's expected, comparing what a (dedicated) nerd from 1992 and Naruto kiddo from 2000+ would write.
For average person in 1992 who has never seen nor heard of anime, that poster could have been one of the better kinds of introduction.
>Anime fans pre-NGE and before the shounenshit explosion
I'm always fascinated
But i dont think that Goku should be acknoledged as a great character. Maybe as an influential one then. I mean, even if i hate TTGL, Simon feels like a better character than Goku, because we actually see him becoming a badass, even if its not believeable, its a great progression which i feel was missing with Goku. At the very least, Vegeta had an interesting progression. Im just saying, theres many better examples of characters like him that are better written.
Clinical Depression (Major Depressive Disorder) is a mental illness. It's tragic and painful because an otherwise normal person becomes a pathetic husk of an individual for seemingly no reason. There might be periods of relative stability, even fleeting moments of joy, but overall you're just miserable and frustrated because you can't "snap out of it".
Evangelion spends a lot of time up its own ass, but it does a wonderful job of portraying how it feels to be a teen with Depression.
Surprised I don't see more "shinji a faggot" comments. Maybe they didn't watch that far?
>Lelouch ranked only 18
This is an affront to his Majesty!
Lelouch is a terrible character. He just consists of a plothax brain and not much else.
>#1 at anything but being a faggot
This list is bullshit.
And glorious FukuJun
Is there a problem?
Christ almighty these fucking comments. It hurts to remember how many Narutards are still out there. Even /a/'s shitposters and IRC would feel offended by the shit these people are saying.
Why does Shinji have cables in his neck? Is he trying to learn how to surf?
C'mon, we see Goku grow up and become badass as well. Except Goku is so retarded he became badass without even realizing it himself. That stupidity prevents him from almost any character development. For example, he cannot be a cowardly little boy who grew up to be a hero like Simon, because he is too stupid to feel fear.
So I guess being pathetic and whiny = better character than someone who could think out a solution to a problem and stick to a plan.
Also, Light Yagami was ranked higher than Lelouch, even though Light became insane towards the end.
The entire list is a stupid popularity contest and Shinji won because 2deep4u
Don't get me wrong, I really like Eva, but really there's better characters, it's time to stop beating a dead horse
The Superbowl is over
I didn't think narutards even existed anymore. I didn't think anybody still cared about Naruto at all.
The difference is Shinji actually feels human because he does what most people would do in his situation rather than magicminding his way out of things like Lelouch or Light do.
>implying Asuka has to be a boy to like fem-Shinji
I didn't even think normies remembered FLCL
>that tumblr nose
I like how most of the comments don't have any reasoning that goes beyond "this guy is the manliest Shinji a pussy XD" or "muh nostalgia". These are the moments when you can truly appreciate /a/.
Rei is nowhere on that list despite having literally dozens of characters designed to mirror her
Yeah yeah, I know. I had second thoughts about posting it, but its the only non lewd picture I have where Asuka is fondling a girl Shinji.
The rest are just her forcing him to cross dress. Shinji a best boy, IGN top taste.
I found Shinji Ikari incredibly annoying and grating as a character.
its just like guren lagan xD so randum
OT: All these faggots bitching about no one piece on there is making my dick hard.
I didn't expect such a good taste from IGN audience.
There's a hope for this world.
There isn't good taste from IGN's audience, though.
I liked Misato and Gendo better as characters in Eva. Shinji didn't have too much of an interesting back story and all his character developed into was "Stop being a little bitch"
Best be red at the top of the girls.
You can read that it says asuka.
Yup Asuka is no.1.
Japan in charge of shit taste once again.
I can't read moon
The best doujin, as celebration
>FLCL is lol so randum
1/10 got me to respond
God damn it IGN you fucks.
The Eva die-hards are going to have to hide because of shit like this.
Shinji isn't even the best character in his own goddamn show. Fuck Hikari is better than Shinji.
I'm gonna go bash my head on a bulkhead for a few hours now to forget this happened!
What the fuck..
shinji is a terrible character how can anyone like him?
I thought the Navy loved Shinji.
Total shit list.
>newest character on the list is 07
>06 has 4 different characters
>several shows have multiple characters on the list
They get brownie points for including Lain, but overall this is bad even by entertainment journalism standards
The list is totally arbitrary.
They had a better one previously.
I don't see why Rei isn't on that list for instance.
I'm okay with this list.
Shinji >>>>>>>> Rei
No watashis in the list
No Setsubou Sensei
No Steins Gate
I can keep going.
That shows IGN's powerlevel
all entry level anime
>Rei is nowhere on that list despite having literally dozens of characters designed to mirror her
Yeah, this is kind of BS.
They're /v/ entry level tier. What did you expect?
Showing Spike and Goku on the same list prove it.
True, but Rei belongs on there. Her character has been ripped off dozens of times since NGE.
>SHINJI at #1 COMPLETELY INVALIDATED THIS LIST!!!!!
I AM GOING TO RATTLE OFF ANIME SERIES CHARACTERS OFF MY HEAD THAT ARE BETTER THAN SHINJI
Gene Starwind , Roy Mustang, Neji Hyuuga, Ryoga Hibiki, Nicholas D Wolfwood, Sesshoumaru AND Miroku, Kaneda AND Tetsuo, Lina Inverse, Ranma Saotome, Kisuke Urahara, Jiraiya, Melfina, Piccolo and thats not even thinking .....
I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
How could you not?
Retards getting ravaged over Shinji has been happened for almost 20 years.
>new shows automatically have bad characters
I never understood why the background characters in this scene looked like they were 5 seconds away from starting a gangbang.
OH MY GOD THAT IS HORRIFYING!
>two characters from DBZ
Krillin and Piccolo,
If you disagree, you don't know shit about manchurian moving sketches.
>The best character (writing-wise) on the list doesn't even break the top 10.
>Obligatory Monster character to avoid looking like CN/AS cocksuckers.
Did IGN realize they suck at "gaming journalism" and now are trying to find a new calling?
You forgot Naruto, Kirito, Eren, and Ryuuko
Because they where.
HA HA HAAA
It's really fucking bizarre that this list is pretty garbage and very entry level, yet still has Shinji as #1 which is probably the most controversial thing they could have done. Everybody knows lots of people, especially the kinds of people that would go to IGN, absolutely hate Shinji. Hell, I'd almost think that it was...clickbait.
I'm impressed with Shinji being #1 but Goku and Vegeta don't even belong on this list. I'm also disappointed that Lelouch/Reinhard isn't in the top 5.
Uh because they were about five seconds away from starting a gangbang? If you'd been at sea for months would you be able to resist such a sweet piece of ass?
That last line I used is a quote from Mobile Suit Gundam abridged.
Speaking of which, FUCKING CHAR IS WAY BETTER THAN SHINJI!
I don't care what IGN thinks.
>tfw no HxH characters anywhere
Shinji is good sure, but Rei should be on that list.
I noticed Asuka was, so for Rei to not be there is absolutely ludicrious and in all honesty discredits the whole list.
Well, they show only smaller part of his strug life in the anime.
READING THE FUCKING COMMENTS ON IGN GAVE ME THIRD STAGE CANCER,HOLY SHIT.
These lists are meant to either appeal to nostalgia or sell localized releases. They are advertisements and clickbaits.
Youtube Circa 2006:
>I just got done watching my 9th anime, so I guess it's time to do a top 10 with white text on a blue background, no transitions, and upscaled thumbnails of anime posters and demotivators.
No one fucks with motherfucking Shinji-kun.
I was a journalism major for a few years before I realized that was retarded, I can't even fucking explain how much it annoys me that vidya "journalists" completely fucking ignore AP style.
Nice memearrows faggot.
>Lupin that low
loving every laugh
How can one be this fucking gay?
I hate liking the same show as these people.
>literally almost twenty
almost spat out my drink
I hate you
Hey respect his opinion, he's literally seen 5 animes.
Other than #1 this list is shit.
That's the whole point of these, if you're a younger anime scrub/casual who doesn't know shit, you take this shit as being "official". If you're older and more experienced, you'll click it just to cringe/bitch. Even if you were a casual anime watcher when you were younger, and you haven't watched anime in years, you'll be enticed to click to see if Spike Spiegal is on the list as nostalgia floods in.
All top 10s are clickbait/native advertising. They should be treated as such.
Is it refering to DBZ?
>not disliking a show because of it's fanbase
You have much to learn if you want to become a true elitist.
But then I wouldn't be able to enjoy anything.
It's Gurren Lagann you doofus.
I'm going to be honest, there's some characters up there I am seriously questioning why they're there.
Then again most the characters on there are the biggest and most heavily influential characters to come out of the industry. Whether I like them or not it doesn't matter. Most (not all) will stand the test of times.
You know, I was going to argue about Fate/Stay Night being considered "too obscure," but considering the anime that they used for the list, that's probably pretty accurate.
And when your list is so U.S. mainstream that even F/SN is obscure, you know that list is basically worthless.
How could anyone think 20 is a lot? I went through more than that during the Fall season.
All fanbases are terrible, so are all hatebases.
>never giving up
>twenty different titles
I guess I'm just too casual. I submit to you.
How the fuck is Asuka on the list but Rei isn't? The former is barely even a main character and the latter is one of the most influential characters in the medium. And Spike being number 2 is equally retarded.
and that's the only time in my life I will ever comment on IGN
It's not about having fun, its about thinking you're better than everyone else.
Rei is only influential because everyone else started copying her and did her better as time went along.
I don't see people trying to copy Asuka and do it better, mostly because they won't go for the sheer fucked up life Asuka has
>It's not about having fun, its about thinking you're better than everyone else
But that's exactly what I find fun, feeling superior.
Hey guise did you the number Juan anime of all the time?? GUISE
>top 25 character list
>Okabe not anywhere on it
This list is so mainstream that even the average anime fan is hardcore compared to it.
Well, if those 20 include long running stuff (Naruto etc.) It'll add up to a lot more than 20 "normal" length series. Not that that adds any credibility to his comment.
No Shinji, Asuka, or Rei clones go as far with their complexes as Eva did.
Fucking Vegeta near some rock.
Then you're truly blessed.
>See, I dont watch anime
Then shut your whore mouth. Quads.
I don't get it either. I'm a total Asukafag, but Rei is much more deserving of a spot on the list.
Why all the commas?
>That shows IGN's powerlevel
It's really sad when you're so entrylevel that even entrylevel stuff is obscure.
Rei canonnicaly hates Asuka and everything she means after all
>No female characters in the top 8.
Good. At least IGN isn't stupid enough to let their dicks get to their heads. Most females characters are shit and poorly put together. I'd argue only the Major deserves a spot in the top 8.
You misogynistic bastards.
I'm posting this on Kotaku.
QUADS HAVE SPOKEN
Archaengel must die
>Rei is only influential because everyone else started copying her and did her better as time went along.
That's fucking retarded of you to say m8
She's somehow not influential because people were influenced by her and copied her? Holy shit.
Noone has ever done Rei better and Japan thinks that's a serious fucking problem.
You can't copy Asuka because it'd be like a copy of a copy.
The list is shit because Goku is at it.
I was actually expecting her to be lower on the list than she was. I'd say I'm pleasantly surprised but that would be a lie.
>all dese names
>no Kaiji on the list
>literally almost twenty different titles
This nigga hasn't even watched twenty different titles?
Holy fucking shit.
goku a shit and shinji a shit, both terrible characters don't tell me you actually like either of them?
I though you were being figurative, thanks for the clarification.
Yeah this is something that really does not help the list in my opinion.
I like both but if there should be one character there from EVA, it's either Shinji or Rei.
You could probably plug him a good old fashioned mail email@example.com
and avoid the social media clutter and tell him directly about the list.
Did you forgot your capitals and commas somewhere?
You're figuratively retarded
I doubt anyone watched Astro Boy, they just put it on the list because they are a bunch of hipster faggots that also think Mario is the best video game character of all time. There are many better characters than him, but they insist they put him on their so they can appear more "cultured".
He's the only worthwhile character aside from Guy to come out of that series, everyone else is just such utter shit.
I only added the "I don't want to live on this..."
All else was quoted but forgot to greentext.
Blue or Red?
Rei for most of the series has no personality and no real depth to her. She finally gets it when she interacts with Shinji more, then Anno has Rei II killed, Rei III appears and everything resets.
Anno has a goddamn problem with resetting things and its really annoying
>they insist they put him on their so they can appear more "cultured"
Why the hell do you think Shinji is #1?
I can actually agree with this. Love him or hate him, Shinji is objectively a very well written character.
Red. Always red.
except everyone because he's a little bitch, thats his whole character
Am I gonna get stuck in a box canyon if I answer?
White as the moon.
>guts behind anyone from Naruto
I thought your entire post was parodying the comments.
I guess you're a bigger faggot than I thought, because you still unironically use the planet phrase.
Acid trips tend to change people even in real life.
I've seen like 60 anime titles overall, and I still consider myself really entry level.
I don't know if I'd be better off being ignorant enough to believe something like 20 titles is a lot.
What a ridiculous question, we are on 4chan after all
If you ignore the ordering, this isn't actually a bad list. Has shit like Lain that's well-known among fans, but not known to mainstream audiences.
Kakashi (I'm no expert on festering shit, but shouldn't this be Nayrudo of Sasook? Isn't Nayrudo literally Goku?)
Gene Starwind or the priest from trigun
Tenchi or Ranma
Best feature of IGN's list? Not tainted by SHAFT
It reminds me of when Toy Story was included on a list of greatest films of all time simply to include a token animated film, when there were better animated movies before then and since. Toy Story was a good movie and groundbreaking, but it's not comparable to The Godfather.
Wait- I didn't see all those nurutu names.
Well done anon.
Okabe is great and all, but I don't think he would belong on the list.
I've seen somewhere around 130 or so, and I still feel like I haven't scratched the surface even.
>Implying IGN wouldn't think SHAFT is some sort of CoD add-on
She wasn't actually a good character. The fact that you think this only proves that the show was well-written. She was pretty much just a selfish genki that the other characters talk about a whole shit ton. That's like saying the Companion Cube is great video game character.
>Rei for most of the series has no personality and no real depth to her
Wrong you miscreant, Rei's personality is straight up in your face and you pretend it isn't there because she's not a fucking cliche.
I mean seriously, you didn't get Rei and that means Rei is 2deep4u. I said it.
You don't get what it means to die for Rei. It means you missed the whole fucking point, it's a setback for Rei but an advancement in another way. THere's a ton of different sides you miss because "depth" and "personality" to you is how much a character lusts for mc dick. EVA isn't a harem.
But The Godfather literally is babby's 1st acclaimed movie.
The bare minimum for /a/ should be like 150-200. And months of lurking.
>Want to read the rest of this article? Just subscribe to IGN Gold of $9.99 a month!
>Not even in top 5
>Not even in top 10
>No Isaac, Miria or Claire Stanfield
Wow, that's some shit taste they have there. Then again, it's IGN, so I'm not surprised.
He'd be on the list if it were actually entry-level. Probably would have more SHAFT characters as well, and maybe a few more KyoAni characters.
This list isn't even entry-level, though. It's Adult Swim pre-cancellation tier.
ITT: evafags thinking shinji is well written
>im gonna destroy the world cuz no body luvs me
>oh wait i changed my mind after i already killed everyone
>choke bitchy Mc Fire-crotch cuz she knows i jizzed all over her that one time she was comatose
truly the most riveting character
I'm actually quite happy to see Excel on your list, anon.
Poor girl doesn't get the love she and her saga deserve. Easily one of the best written comedy mangas no one's read.
To be fair while there are a great number of anime, a good deal among those aren't worth watching. Seeing 600 titles for example is a horrendous waste of one's time.
More like The Snorefest.
He actually didn't kill anyone.
I don't think she's all that great actually, and you could better argue Kyon instead. Those additions aren't my personal additions, but the additions I think belong on a mainstream anime list that a place like IGN would put out. Haruhi qualifies here because mainstream "fans" know of her, and I'd say the show is finally old enough that it's faded into the "classic anime" canon.
Shinji was an interesting character, but it seems nobody realizes just how insane he was. Shinji was a pretty shitty human being just like every one else on the show.
True, you make an excellent point.
It's like the whole point explored in the series and the character progression went over your head.
I take offense at that, it's more that you don't understand either depth or personality.
Rei's personality is cold, stoic and absolutely indifference to most things, she's the fighting silent girl that barely cares for anything, and what she does care for she cares for a lot and tries to protect.
Rei is as deep as you can get it, even if the character said nothing the character's whole situation would speak loads.
Rei I, II and III are all Rei, so Rei "dying" means she loses her memories essentially, but she still continues to develop, only she's now much closer to the truth than she was before - that's why she generates the AT-field and flies down to terminal dogma.
Blue for me.
Thank fucking god, someone else sees how PERFECT Shinji-kun is.
It accumulates. And if you are gonna watch only popular, acclaimed, GOOD shows, you are gonna miss on many underrated amazing shows, or at least the ones that will fit your taste perfectly even if they aren't all that good. In the end you can't help but watch more and more.
Just because it's entry-level doesn't make it bad.
I only agree with the months of lurking part.
You should definitely know more about the community before posting.
However, if you're keeping up with some of the recent shows being aired at the time, I don't see why it'd be a problem to post, even if you've seen less than 100 anime. As long as the person is mature, and can keep a decent discussion going, it's no big deal.
Rei is the murderer not Shinji
That makes me laugh, he had all of like 1 minute of screentime all together in 2.22
I haven't even seen close to 100 titles yet I can talk about at least that number of series. Lurking and doing your own research is the most important.
And if you remove all the cute girls doing X sort of series as well as generic flavor of the month shit, you're left with a very small number of anime frequently talked about on /a/, which is the real problem.
I should have hit that number, but after I got out of High School I stopped watching 50 old/new series a year.
I'm lucky if I finish a show a season now, it's not that I don't like it, it's just that I can't marathon for shit anymore, it's an episode or two at a time and I want to do something else until I get the urge for another hour of anime again.
My only regret is watching some really stupid shit (Comic Party et al) and having not watched a lot of stuff I need to watch (most of gundam 0079, LOGH, Patlabor, Turn-A, Hokuto No Ken, Lupin etc...)
>The rest are just her forcing him to cross dress.
Why should anyone care about IGN's opinion on anime?
Why can't you stay in your containment board?
Japan did something right
BUT THE REAL ANSWER HASN'T BEEN GIVEN.
WHO THE FUCK IS THE BEST GIRL?
>It's been almost two years since Toonami went back on the air.
Jesus Christ, what have I done with the last 2 years of my life? It feels like that happened way more recently.
Never underestimate the popularity of Kaworu.
He ranked 2nd in the 1990s poll.
Not to be that guy but I think Allen Walker is an amazing character with tons of development, stuck in a convoluted manga
>#2 should be Goku for the influence reasons
I've seen this sentence about a dozen times in there, is it you guys?
You can't put off perfection forever Anon-kun.
Seele is responsible for the murders, Rei just hijacks instrumentality while it's happening and gives the choice to Shinji instead of Gendo.
Based Shinji. Fuck the haters and 12 year olds.
Or, just follow new shows every week and post who you think is best girl. Then you'll fit right in.
And only 10 minutes of screentime in the original.
And he's still insanely popular.
The problem is that people who have seen few shows are incapable of decent discussion. You should have a good grasp of the medium to discuss it.
I want to protect time.
I've been reading FSN recently, and I lost my shit when he actually said that. I always thought it was a joke or something, but nope, I was wrong.
I haven't laughed that hard in ages.
Didn't it happen at the end of 2012, so it's only been like a year an a half or less?
When was this?
SEELE didn't force Rei to kill everyone.
Not everyone. Keito is Canadian master race for example.
I would still feel better knowing people here actually watched fucking anime rather than everyone being SO CLEVER in fitting in. No offense, most of the time it's really not all that visible since currently airing series are the main focus, but you know what I mean.
I don't know how to put it into words, but it's pretty easy to tell even when it's only halfway aired which anime will end up being talked about 10 years from now. But I can't put it into words, I can't say why, for example, I expect Madoka to be more popular than Bakemonogatari 10 years from now.
There's just a certain quality some anime have that gives them wide appeal with obsessive "surface-scrapers" who are more concerned with community than animation/writing.
/a/ talks about a lot more than that. Currently airing shows get more discussion because older shows were already discussed either while airing or over the course of several years.
I can imagine this list consisting of
>no one piece
And no I haven't read the list.
It was already in motion when she took it.
>5th place is RuroKen
Well fine… all is forgiven.
Just pick one of those and watch a couple episodes a day. Those series are particularly good so I'm sure you will get hooked on one and marathon a bit.
Did he just say Bleach was a character?
And she still continued with it after betraying Gendo making her a mass murderer.
Most of those shows wouldn't make it to the list even if /a/ was in charge of picking the characters.
She didn't kill anyone, exactly either.
Instrumentality is explained as not being death.
That and it is Shinji's wish, and Rei and Shinji does share similar views - it's God stuff you might not understand, but humanity as it was, is drowning in sorrow as she puts it.
The world has been laid waste to, and bringing them back to the womb would be a kind, motherly thing to do.
I was super drunk and on /a/ one night in like 2010 and I got talked into watching it, came back to the thread after watching 1 episode saying it was the best anime ever, and being told that unless I watch the first 20 I'd never get into it. I swore it was awesome and I was gonna watch it all immediately.
I never saw those piss yellow subs again. Still kinda feel bad.
Blue but I like Asuka better if my color preferance might imply otherwise. Personally I like Misato better but if you are making me choose between the main two girls
You can't really appreciate the good shows unless you have watched bad series as well.
Why isn't Mankoto on the list? He was such a GAR character. Literally got all the bitches and died for our sins like Jesus.
The obvious choice.
>That and it is Shinji's wish, and Rei and Shinji does share similar views
So Rei the murderer acting under Shinji's wish to kill everyone. Glad we agree.
Shinji at the top, right where he belongs.
>implying /a/ doesn't like Kaiki
Yeah that's true but it's not something most people can relate to. Having a spirit quest probably changes people too but I wouldn't use it as a plot point for my anime set in Japan.
>top anime characters of all time
>most recent show is from 2007
There's no murder going on.
>Greatest anime characters
>Not a single keion
>No moe at all
>Only /v/ approved shit anime for kids
No doubt it's IGN. It's like they made it specifically for plebs who actually like shitty anime like NGE.
I think a part of my brain hates anime, 2 weekends in a row I was gonna get caught up with Space Dandy so I could watch the new episode as it aired. Both Saturdays I spent all day doing other things telling myself, "I'll start dandy in about 30 minutes" with the OP playing in my head the whole time. Then it was suddenly 45 minutes to Dandy and I blew the whole thing off and played SMT4.
Ok this just hit me, if Shinji believed he didn't want to run away from human interaction, why didn't he just reset the world before everyone turned into Tang? You know, reverse the process making him live in a world full of people
I completely don't care. Does anyone here actually care? Why's this thread have so many posts?
If /a/ talked about more than that, I should be able to add many excellent anime (that aren't too well-known) to my to-watch list.
But it doesn't happen. Of course there are the "recommended" lists that really are more like "all the series we've collectively seen" lists, but that's not people talking.
And not only does it not happen, people don't even watch new series that aren't generic shit. I've given this anime as an example many times in many similar discussions, but I'll do it again: Hyouge Mono was fully subbed not long ago, and no one watched it.
Like I said, remove all the plebeian anime and you're left with only a handful shows being discussed.
>Having a spirit quest probably changes people too but I wouldn't use it as a plot point for my anime set in Japan
... Why not? That sounds awesome.
>Not a single keion
Come to think about it now I actually like that list.
Probably because people hate being associated with people like
He's too stupid. Rei too.
Yeah it kinda does, bad example.
>Why's this thread have so many posts?
Because OP is a clever bastard who knew mentioning Shinji on /a/ would guarantee replies.
I wouldn't call this murder, it's Instrumentality. The complementation of souls.
It's really a democratic solution, those who can make it out, get out.
Maybe watch better shows than Space Bundy. Wait, it would actually be good. Fuck, I want a show like that now.
>Probably because people hate being associated with people
/a/ is practically founded on this virtue.
> who knew mentioning Shinji on /a/ would guarantee replies.
Nothing democratic about having your life taken from you just because some kid thinks the entire world hates him.
>All those OP fags
The characters are arguably one of the weaker elements in OP.
We love talking about Evangelion.
That kind of ruins the message of EoE, especially the part where he was choking Asuka for knowing he wanked to her. Apart from the "Im done running away" front he pulls in front of Rei in the instrumentality project, once he was out, he never followed through. Or like you said, he's just stupid
If they didn't want it then they would've come back to life.
Every /a/non is a Shinji at heart.
The real question is, why is Doraemon not on that list?
>Nothing democratic about having your life taken from you just because some kid thinks the entire world hates him.
You could opt out.
If you live in America, this would be fuckin' fantastic and a step forward.
This was one of you, right? No one is stupid enough to copy the file directory of an image into a comment in the hopes that it'll make the image appear, right? ...right? ...guys?
He's #0. He surpasses expectations everytime, truly.
You have your life, and it's even better. If you don't like it, you can always say "naw".
it's like you're actually crying "WWAAAAAH I HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE AND FREE HEALTH CARE, ITS NOT DEMOCRATIC TO GIVE ME A BETTER, MORE SECURE LIFE"
Well guess what, you're free to just fuckin' leave.
Asuka at first, Rei at second, Mari at third. Talk about domination.
Every character in Cowboy Bebop who isn't spike is better than Spike.
IGN's powerlevel is too low.
How about asking them if they wanted to be Tang in the first place? Now lol sorry for forcing Tang on you guys btw you can come back if you wanna hee hee.
>knowing who the fuck Doraemon is
Must be a Pokemon or Digimon, probably the latter since they all have the -mon suffix in their names.
Worked fine as it did, they all hugged the Rei and proved they wanted in on the comfort-zone.
Aoba was just a fucking weirdo
Eat shit Reifags, Japan has spoken. Broken clock is right twice a day etc.
Holy shit, that fucking file link, I can't stop laughing.
Why isn't Shin-Chan on the list?
>Aoba was just a fucking weirdo
Aoba didn't want Tang why force it on him?
/a/ watches and discusses most every airing show. Of course most of it is shit. That doesn't mean it isn't fun to discuss. Discussion of older series does happen, though less frequently.
Sorry /a/ doesn't limit itself to only the anime you like.
Even IGN is noting this. Good move, include Shinji, bad move, don't include Rei....
Also Shin-chan isn't a really good character
Why not both?
Because Rei knows better.
You know how retards don't know what they want, don't want education or help in their lives? Aoba is _that guy_, and she did 'em a favor.
Well that ranking is for when 2.22 first came out, and Asuka made her Rebuild debut in it. So I'm not really surprised she ranked over Rei that time.
I prefer Asuka in red, thanks.
>Literally got all the bitches and died for our sins like Jesus.
You mean he led bitches on, then died like the bitch faggot he was.
>Sorry /a/ doesn't limit itself to only the anime you like.
I'm glad you've been able to exercise reading comprehension and fully understand what I said.
I mean... shit, I'm not even going to bother. Re-read everything, because you fucked up big time.
>No Kircheis on this list
If only he was here
You're too desperate defending murderers.
Asuka has been the #1 otaku fan choice for some time.
Rei is 90's tier, but all those bad bad bad spinoffs add up and create a bad image for Rei.
Otaku can't handle being hurt very well, and everyone knows Rei has poor chances in every EVA installment because upper management hates the character.
It's only natural.
I just watched the episode in which he dies.
Jesus,fuck. This series is GOAT.
You will never see LoGH on any mainstream list.
>If only he was here
Well be prepared to hear about how much better things would have been if he were here for the next 500 episodes
Prepare for 100 episodes of Imperial Admirals saying "IF ONLY KIRCHEIS WAS HERE"
ebin win :DDDDDD
He probably wouldn't get so much shit for being a "whiny bitch"
Maybe because it's a long-ass, shittilty told story, which ambles on before ending in the most dismal way possible.
There's a reason people don't talk about it outside of people trying to seem elitist.
No Luffy, Utena, or Hisoka.
>shittilty told story
Yeah, that guy sees so much messed up shit and watching his desperation, horror and eventual desensitisation makes him at least worthy of beibg in the top 25
>Always ran away from his problems
Holy fucking shit, how is it possible to be this oblivious? How? Does this guy not watch anything with more nuance than Transformers movies?
Good. There's absolutely nothing to his character that Goku doesn't have. He would be a redundant addition.
The part that sentence was in response to was this.
>Like I said, remove all the plebeian anime and you're left with only a handful shows being discussed.
Most anime is shit and we discuss most airing shows so it's stupid to complain about /a/ discussing plebeian anime.
Your claim we do not discuss older shows is a lie. We do discuss older shows, though less frequently.
>Not inferno cop.
>Well that ranking is for when 2.22 first came out, and Asuka made her Rebuild debut in it. So I'm not really surprised she ranked over Rei that time.
2.22 wasn't good for Rei as most people seem to think. It was also Mari's debut and she's an entirely new character still she ranked at 3rd.
Rarely before have I witnessed such a density of shittaste.
>why not naruto #1 why not deadman wonderland characters
I want to laugh but it is saddening that people can be this stupid.
I know rite bro, it's just like that shitty "romance of the three kingdoms thing"! It goes on for thousands of pages but everybody ends up dying and some faggots that weren't even there when the story started end up winning! what a shit story, and most of the book is just guys talking, and it it takes 100 years for all the talking to end!
It's long as hell, and has some hiccups, but it is legitimately one of the better animus out there. You hardly see any other shows tackle the same issues with the same level of seriousness.
They could have cut out a ton of bullshit, but it was pretty good.
>No Jesus Yamato
Why do you even bother?
To be fair, Shinji really is a pussy. The rest of /a/ also being pussies doesn't change that.
I get that Shinji had valid reasons not to pilot the Eva and that he eventually did man up, but you gotta admit that in any other show (lets take slice of life as an example) he would be the pussy character that gets bullied or something.
I like Luffy better. I'm not a fan of DragonBall despite One Piece being like it but better.
What's with all the anime articles on IGN now? There's been 3 in the past 2 weeks.
And what exactly was there?
>people don't talk about shows that were talked to death already, poor I can't add them to my backlog because of that
>there are recommendation lists but I don't like them
>people only talk about generic moe anime, why isn't no one talking about such great titles as my beloved Hyouge Mono?
You may be surprised, but everytime a new episode was subbed, a thread would be made. And people who watched it are also the same that watch generic moe anime. Because, you know, people here don't limit themselves to the extremes. I hope.
Oh, and have you seen Dantalian no Shoka? It was completely underrated and maybe not even that amazing show, but many people here loved it. And I don't expect to see threads about it daily. Nor do I make them for no reason. Because there isn't really anything more to discuss about it other than repost some images and reminiscent. And the same goes for 90% of the shows. But you can spot people mentioning them once in a while, in random threads, because they have seen them. Not my fault you were too late. Better luck next time. Faggot.
I can't believe Mari was third. Her character is weak compared to the rest of the cast.
Testing the popularity, presumably before launching an anime section. The articles are hitting 4k+ replies each, so I'd call it a success.
And those shitty battle tactics moments when we can't see the 'splosions.
>2.22 wasn't good for Rei as most people seem to think.
People seem to think it was good for Rei because Asuka got dunked.
The thing here is that Reifags thought it was interesting and OK, but Asukafags blew it out of proportion because they felt threatened by having Shinji so close to Rei.
Now in 3.0 Rei gets dunked out of canon basically and it's even worse.
>I can't believe Mari even exists.
I like Mari.
>Most anime is shit and we discuss most airing shows so it's stupid to complain about /a/ discussing plebeian anime.
Look at /tv/. Stupid celebrity shit aside, they don't only discuss currently airing tv shows or movies currently in theatres. So while they also discuss plebeian shit a lot, you can practically also always discussion that isn't about that at all. It's much more difficult on /a/, you surely have seen the ages old excuse that certain shows aren't worth talking about because everything about them has been discussed. This is bullshit, unless it means that your animu is completely devoid of content.
>Your claim we do not discuss older shows is a lie. We do discuss older shows, though less frequently.
I never claimed that. I said that if you remove plebeian shit, you end up with a handful of shows being discussed over and over, which obviously includes old shows. And I also said that the real problem in this case was that handful of shows that keep appearing and reappearing, that their number is too small.
If you have complaints you can actually mail the author.
It's worth it to give him the insight on why something doesn't add quite up, such as Rei not being on a top-25 list.
>you will never be greeted by your admiral colleagues in Valhalla
I only like her smug.
I can agree with that. I imagine she was only added to sell more merchandise.
I mailed him and am actually getting some form of response. Generic, but I'll see where it goes.
Jesus christ you fucking whine a lot. Go make a bunch of threads talking about all the old anime you like, then.
But she had two action scenes, one solo angel fight with a new eva and beast mode with was new and well received Rei didn't and the movie ended with her as a damsel in distress.
how can she drink BEVERAGES is she is on lcl ???
Start threads then, if people want to talk about your superior non-pleb taste anime, they will.
You like the wrong things
Hype. I don't think Newtype has too much credibility any more. It shows that the standards aren't you know.... regular.
This, send him a mail about the Rei issue specifically since that's something that doesn't add up at all.
I have this personal theory that if she was in some other show that was not Eva-ish she would be revered as best girl.
Still worst eva girl though, but considering the quality level that is not saying much.
>still using "plebeian shit" seriously
I didn't think anybody could be this retarded
Go start a thread then, I hope people will answer.
What? Instrumentality is a giant metaphor for suicide. It's the death of ones self.
I bet you haven't seen the old list. Goku used to be #1 on IGN
We do discuss older shows. /a/ is an older board than /tv/ and it is boring discussing the same shows we've already discussed a thousand times. Also, /tv/ is awful so you should pick a better example if you want to prove a point.
We talk about good an bad shows. Unsurprisingly there are more bad shows so bad shows get brought up more. Make a thread for whatever rarely discussed show you want to talk about.
I will die without understanding why this qt is so hated.
Metaphor, interpreted in - quite different from what happens.
At least Kyon is there and there's no Ararararagi on sight
Can someone honestly explain to me the appeal of Goku and DBZ in general? I didn't have CN as a kid and I watched it later on and my god is the filler terrible and Goku isn't the GREATEST CHARACTER EVER! Hell if I had to pick any character out of the series it'd be Piccolo or Gohan or someone who did something more than go Super Duper Pooper Scooper Level 9001 Le Epic Maiamei
The beverages are LCL too
I meant weak as in her character is shallow or poorly written. Seems she was only added to sell more merch.
She is like a Mary Sure of Eva. Sexy, always having fun, better at piloting 02 than Asuka, no drama OR FUCKING PURPOSE revealed so far. I'm surprised she lost at the end of 2.0, guess she figured out impact would be funnier or something and let an angel defeat her for shit and giggles.
>picks Johan over Nina or Tenma
>Goku AND Vegeta
>two Dragonball characters
Her smug and Asuka teasing are both pretty good entertainment wise. It's also kinda nice to see a character in Eva has isn't totally fucked in the head.
Pink isn't even a real color.
I don't hate her, I just think she is an awful character in comparison to the rest of the characters in Evangelion.
He was a main character of a shounen series watched by kids ages 5-13 in early 90'
I like Future Trunks the most, he had a cool sword.
Because on /a/ you can't overload a thread with the popular opinion, each opinion stands alone, so arguments based on merit actually happen, it's the beauty of 4chan.
I liked a lot of the filler. My main issue is the pacing of the fights in the anime. The manga is better, but DBZ in general is shit post-Freiza saga. Dragon Ball is better than DBZ.
That's not the issue you fucking retards, all this is about the point I made about how watching a trillion anime is completely unnecessary to be on /a/, because only a small number of core shows keep turning up aside from seasonal series.
Great job on completely misunderstanding that and getting taking offense for no reason at all though.
>Being subordinate to another character (To Asuka in 3.0)
>Half of her fights ended in she failing terribly her objective.
I understand why people call her a mary sue, but I find it an overstatement for a support character.
Don't tell me what to like.
because he's a serial killer just like my dexters which makes him cool
Mari is into LCL, she needs help, but after the third impact there are no more rehab centers.
Yeah I agree with that. I watched Dragonball as well and it's a far more enjoyable series.
Please do not like Mari
>watching a trillion anime is completely unnecessary to be on /a/
Maybe you would fit in anyway, but fuck you, go watch some goddamn anime you newfag. Or go back to /tv/
I always assumed the "you must have seen this many shows to ride" thing was to color your opinion of new shows, rather than to talk about old stuff if it came up.
e.g. Someone watching Naruto as their first anime would probably love it, whereas someone who's seen several hundred shows would find it less appealing, as they have better stuff to judge it against.
>lives with an alcoholic whore and an abusive hot/cold bitch
>friends beat him up for saving the city
>tracked and controlled by the shadow government
>only other friend is his mom's clone
>lives after the apocalypse
>has to fight the warriors of god on a hell-plagued earth using his mom's soul as a weapon, still can't get any closer to anyone.
>makes a friend, kills him
>becomes god, solves nothing
>wakes up on a worse earth with super tit bitch in his face, finally gets shown the littlest big of affection
>breaks down crying
Yeah Shinji really had an easy life and just couldn't man up, he totally didn't handle his circumstances any better than you would have. Remember to thank your Dad for not putting your mom in a giant robot when you have dinner with them later today
No, it is necessary to have watched a lot of anime otherwise you will have a poor understanding of the medium and be incapable of producing informed thoughts/arguments on any of the shows we discuss.
>We are all expecting she having her typical smug face as NGR rises in the last rebuild
>In the actual movie the girl will panic and cry and Anno's laughs will be heard in the background.
>and Anno's laughs will be heard in the background
Why do I get the feeling this will legitimately happen? /a/ will explode after the camrips circulate.
I think IGN used to have an anime section though. I remember seeing the last article they posted announcing its closure
> no Togashi characters
> no Urameshi or King of Manlets
Kuprika, Kite and Hisoka top 3 HxH
Might be cool.
GNR isn't going to be in the next movie.
I think the whole show was more about depression and believing yourself to be useless, rather than having terrible circumstances.
Eventually, any human being would adapt to the circumstances given to them no matter how shitty. It's the reason why people living in war zones don't kill themselves off en masse, and why human beings don't just completely break and stop trying to live. Even without push from relatives and others, human beings will still try.
If you've ever read novels about the experiences of child soldiers, refugees fleeing from Pol Pot, ect you'll notice that they all have a way shittier life than Shinji. You don't see them giving up and doing nothing after losing everything; they still fight to survive because that's human nature. You adapt to the circumstances given to you; whether you're backed into a corner, in an endless hell with no end in sight, whether you've lost everything, trying to survive is natural.
Giving up and being a little bitch is because chemical imbalances in his brain gave him a twisted view of the world and his relationship with others, and how he views himself.
I'm pretty sure even if Shinji weren't in a shitty situation, he would have been a depressed pussy regardless. Too scared and depressed to get out of his comfort zone, wishing to die but too cowardly. He'll never be in control of his life, and not even his death. The entire apocalypse scenario has other people giving him importance and pushing him forward constantly, and he doesn't seem to be able to.
Windows users, never change.
I've just realized that all shonen is just 2000 year old chinese stories...
How slow am I?
>Mention of Kaiji, Isaac and Miria, and Jojo in this thread
You guys give me hope
It is to colour your opinion of new shows, but it's not exactly a necessity in that situation.
What I mean by that is, any person (not underage) that isn't stupid, or who is looking for things with more substance would leave Naruto after a while even if it was their first anime. Anime does not tell stories that are understandable only within the medium itself- there's no such thing on Earth in the first place- hence why even a person that hasn't even seen a single series can still perfectly appreciate any non-entry level work.
Even if another series does a certain aspect of a newer show better for example (or vice versa), it doesn't mean that a person cannot like the newer one better.
So even though you might talk about a newer series by comparing it to an older one and give an appreciation of it, a person that hasn't seen any other series can also still appreciate the same work and even talk at length about it.
This also answers >>101530379 claims. Having a better knowledge of the medium will help you discuss certain things on a more detailed level or draw comparisons, but it will actually not help you better appreciate a work unless the work itself is based on referencing other productions. In fact, having a basic knowledge of Japanese culture and history will be more useful in "intelligent" discussion rather than havig a history of some hundreds of series watched.
As a clarification, actually having seen a lot of series will help you in a form of appreciation, that is on the technical level. But people here, myself included, are incapable of having actual discussion on a technical level in a way that doesn't make the person reading it shoot himself in the head, so it's not very relevant anyway.
Well... no, not really. RoTK is definitely not a shounen.
The Journey to The West however might be seen as one, but it's a damn deep and entertaining one. It also served as the main inspiration for Dragonball as you surely know.
Pick an anime, any anime, released before 2000 that hasn't had a BD release and you run into severe content problems.
First, screencaps are too low res to use for anything other than reaction images. Similarly, all wallpapers, promotional images, and fanart from when the show was made are all in shit res because they were made when people had 800x600 monitors. Unless there's an artbook, there's absolutely no sources for any new content unless you can draw, something the vast majority of "I know a little bit of GIMP/Photoshop" ricers, screencappers, and general fans can't do.
They could have picked a better picture of him at least
The situation he's in is quite a bit different from the ones you mention, though. It's not a third world country where people have to think about primary needs first, his problems stem from something more personal and relatable to the people watching it during that certain time of Japanese history.
Not that he's entirely blameless, but his weaknesses are entirely understandable and very human as well. Not to mention he did put an effort into building relationships and tried to at least look for some meaning around him, only to see all he worked for crumble down toward the end (sandbox scene in EoE sums it up pretty well).
>screencaps are too low res to use for anything other than reaction images
People use screencaps for other reasons?
That's another good point. We are on an imageboard. Even if the rips are good, chances are that people won't have these shows on their hard drive or have many screencaps of it, unless they're watching it right then.
And then you have to take into account people's bad memories, unless they're a BIG fan or just recently watched it. Most people will just be able to make one or two posts saying if they liked a show or not.
And then you have the problem of the thread OP itself. Airing shows will almost always have more threads, because you can have new threads for every episode, about every episode. For older shows, you can't make a thread after they finish each episode in a marathon, or even halfway through the show. So they can only make one after they're done it all. And if the show has no preexisting fanbase, like LOGH, then those threads are going to be the only time someone makes a thread about them.
But the guy you're responding to is right. Rei was originally written to be a plot device. A literal doll whose own relevance to the story was due to how Gendo used her and not how she felt or thought about anything. Anno literally forgot she existed for a while. The reason people think EVAfags look for depth that isn't there is because it's true. The series does a lot right and it's iconic, but none of it is hard to grasp and a lot of it is symbolism the creators wanted to be left to viewer interpretation. Rei develops some personality later on, and a stoic character who has mysterious motives and origins can certainly be good, Reifags who truly believe she was a deep and complex character from the beginning are beyond delusion. She was a good character, not a great one and she had absolutely nothing on Shinji, Asuka, Misato or even Kaoru.
>People only make threads when done with shows
Huh? I see plenty of "Really enjoying this so far!" threads too.
Really? I meant for OLD shows, not like within the last few years.
Shinji Ikari is a terrible unrealistic pussy character. Kill yourself eva fanboys.
The one edge older shows have is quotability of subs/fansubs. The only images you ever see of older shows are of funny or memorable lines, a trend I credit entirely to /a/'s LoGH fans.
>Asuka on the list
you know I like Asuka more but this isn't right.
Yeah, but I wonder if it's because LoGH is quotable in itself or if it's because newer fansubbers are shittier at the language.
I almost threw up from all the shit taste.
LoGH is maybe the most quotable show on the entire planet.
You might be right
I'm confident that I am in this case.
Both. Modern fansubbers can't into adaptation at all. I used to be one of the no chans or kuns in my subs guys, but lately the "adapters" have been doing such a shit job that I take refuge in honorifics.
They didn't make it even halfway
About that line, I'm not 100% sure it's been translated properly. If it has, then I have to think about what the fuck was Frederica (and by extension the author) smoking.
he means that it's obvious they haven't watched anything new
Maybe she's just not very good with words.
Well, we are talking about a nation where people die when they are killed, so really, it's anyone's guess.