Has it really been that long?
All in all, that's a really fucking nice boat.
Yes, but once Miura finishes his short 6 chapter manga (currently on chapter 5), he's picking Berserk back up.
I can't wait for more Falconia
Fuck Griffith. I Guts to somehow figure out a way to make Griffith feel sorrow and regret for what he did, the Guts needs to end him. Zodd is a little bitch, I expected more from him, not to become Griffith's little whore.
>he's picking Berserk back up
Are you people really frustrated by the lack of Berserk that you jump on any semi-related thread to voice your strong opinions on the story and characters?
>"Oh a Boatserk thread, now's the time to whine about Griffith and whatnot."
You like him or something? gay boy.
No, I really don't give a shit. I'm just amused by your intense desire to start another Berserk thread or a Griffith bashing thread. Settle down a little bit, son.
What the fuck, Code Geass hadn't even aired yet. There's no way we've been on this boat for nearly a decade.
I wonder what are they doing in Falconia now...
We'll know, 20 years later
When Guts got on the boat, Bush was still the president of the US, and half of /a/ was still underage.
I think we got more underage now because old /a/nons started dying out
I can wait.
I hope it really is a utopia.
oh god it couldn't have been that long
I heard this hack is planning on starting a new series instead of finishing Berserk. Is that true?
He's pretty much done with the new mini series.
He's already doing it, but atm it's only supposed to last 6 issues or something like that.
>/a/nime and manga discussion board
any ship experts here know what ship in real life this is based on?
Honestly so do I. I hope humans and apostles and even spirits and monsters are living in harmony there. I hope that when Guts finally invades Falconia for whatever reason, he's seen as the bad guy and everyone comes together to try and stop him. Like an evil invading force trying to destroy their little paradise.
I LOVE it when they play with the traditional good guy/bad guy roles.
I genuinely have fun discussing Berserk and haven't really bothered doing so in a few years.
I like him, but I understand why you don't. Part of his job as a character is to be hated, after all.
Whatever this guy is riding
You know what the best part is? The absolute fucking kicker in all this? Lets suppose that after the last release of Gigantomakhia comes out that Miura does return to Berserk. Lets suppose that the first new chapter of Berserk after all this time ends with Guts stepping off the boat. /a/ would explode for days on end, but then what?
It will be an absolute minimum of two months before there's another chapter afterward. That's being optimistic, realistically we're looking at another 6~8 months between chapters. Eventually instead of being stuck on a boat, we'll be discussing how he's been on Elf Island for 5 years or some such.
During all this, Miura will randomly abandon the main plot on a whim to either do other miniseries or jump back in time like he did with the Spring Breeze Blossoms of Another Day chapters.
How much suffering can you endure, /a/?
I'm not sure if I'd agree that Griffith is meant to be hated. I think Miura did a really good job of showing that Griffith's main motivations for accepting the sacrifice were guilt and sorrow, not ambition or a lust for power. I'd hesitate to even call him an antagonist at this point in the story, let alone a villain. Right now it feels like Guts and Griffith are just two separate characters going about their business, although they're probably destined to meet up again soon.
Looks like a frigate to me.
I humbly disagree. I love Griffith as a character but I feel that you're unintentionally whitewashing him. Your interpretation, though different, is just as valid as my own and I respect your opinion.
Looks like a Man O War.
>clearly has multiple gun decks
>looks like a frigate
If you don't know shit about sailing ships don't comment on them you fucking retard.
Nah pretty sure it's a schooner.
Nope, it's a rowboat.
>entire chapters dedicated to the layout of Falconia and how people live there
Naw dawg that's cleary a tricked out dinghy.
I'd be interested to hear why you disagree. I felt it was pretty explicit, the way it was shown that even though Griffith was very driven, his main weakness was that he couldn't deal with the loss of people under his command. The way Ubik and Conrad showed him visions of the comrades he has lost along the way, rather than promises of a powerful future made me feel sympathy more than any other emotion during the Eclipse. I don't think tragic events always require somebody to blame, but I can see why that's necessary for some people.
I feel that's used as more subtext than anything. The main point about Griffith that the narrative has pushed from the start is his fierce ambition and unyielding personality. The feeling that he needs people is there, but it isn't spun in such a sympathetic way. More often he's treated as extremely possessive, treating the people around him like valuable objects rather than personal relationships. That's why Guts was treated as a noteworthy exception.
Griffith definitely has his good points, but he has his bad points as well.
There's also the current mystery of whether Femto is really the same as the old Griffith. Femto definitely has the same memories, but his personality has actually been far more aloof than Griffith's. Whereas old Griffith could be playful and had an almost childlike innocence, Femto Griffith has been very aloof and vague. Hardly displaying much of anything besides a mysterious air of tranquility and drive.
Femto's parallels to the Hawk of Darkness prophecy are difficult to overlook. It could be that Guts will ultimately be the dark hawk while Griffemto plays the role as the light, but that too remains to be seen.
There are many, many, MANY scenes throughout the story to support this type of duality between Griffith as both a thoughtful and innocent man and a ruthless and ambitious man. I feel the former has mostly been downplayed in favor of the latter because the author clearly wants the reader to see Griffith as Guts' foil and the antagonist of this story. To say he's entirely a good person and not really a bad guy seems dismissive of a large part of what makes him an interesting character.
I got depressed as soon as I saw the thumbnail.
Ahaha, I forgot to add "IN MY OPINION." Like I said earlier, it's just my take on things. Doesn't mean it's right.
One more thing I'd like to add: More than good or evil though, I think the main theme of Griffith's character is that he is "above" other people.
>B-BUT GRIFFITH DID NOTHING WRONG,R-RIGHT,GUYS?
The exact same could be said of Guts.
I believe that Griffith is not pure evil, just as I believe that Guts is not pure good. I think that the story so far supports my opinion as they've both been shown as having significant dark sides as well as good qualities.
That being said, Griffith IS the villain and Guts IS the hero, so it's not a perfect balance by any means and isn't supposed to be. In my opinion.
I don't know what dark side of Guts are you talking about.
Yes,he killed for Griffith,but that shit put him off the tracks when he realized what he had done.
His soldier's had pledged their lives to Griffith so he saw that as a reason to sacrifice them. That's what makes the scene where all the past dead show up before Griffith.
Griffith's apologists pls
You realize that was just God Hand manipulating Griffith's subconsciousness?
He was manipulated into sacrificing everyone. That makes it even more tragic.
It was still ultimately Griffith's choice.
> I don't know what dark side of Guts are you talking about.
Come on. He's the Black Swordsman who puts innocent people in harms way for revenge and bloodlust. He's going through a kind of rehab now with the loli and the rest of the crew, but they are explicitly the only reason he doesn't just snap and just destroy everything.
I want guts to rip griffith into a thousand little bloody chunks.
It's an early ship-of-line, with the classic ship rigging and the high sterncastle putting it no later than an early-mid 17C design.
He was on the boat to elf island for 8 years
you can only imagine how much time will be wasted on elf island because it will go through all the usual plot steps with establishing the location, minor characters coming out of the woodwork with some issues and giving us the context, then slowly the main plot kicks in and there's an arc villain that needs to be defeated and all the minor good guys get some fights and so on...
then they need to go back and reach Falconia which would take 10 more years irl time and that's a conservative estimate if we assume Guts beelines straight for Falconia and doesn't get distracted along the way with some additional subplots or related developments.
AND then he needs to defeat all the apostles, each of them being worthy of an arc AND fight the God-Hand and Griffith and perhaps more after that.
And all of this is not counting additional mini-bosses along the way (like for instance this Kraken thing on the boat).
>Puts innocent people in harms way
But what about at the beginning, when he tries to get Puck to stop following him so he wouldn't get hurt?
I though we were talking about the Golden age Guts.
Well,it's hard to analyze Guts' character in the beginning of his Black swordsman journey.
He was a man in ruins. Everything he ever loved was dead. All he had was revenge.
But that changed with him realizing that Casca is the most important thing he possess. Not only his right for vengeance.
It sounds like we mostly agree, with only a few minor differences in perspective. One thing to note is that I don't think he saw himself as above other people in the same way. I think he could tell that he had a greater purpose, but it didn't lead to him thinking less of others.
He made an effort to remember the soldiers who died under his command, and even sold his body to lessen casualties, but he had to distance himself from the people he commanded. If he were to get too emotionally involved, then he couldn't have continued his role as an effective leader. I think part of why Guts was so special to him was that he could trust Guts not to die. It gave him somebody he felt secure in getting attached to.
Regarding his post Eclipse aloofness, I hope that's just because of how busy he was with the war. It'd be really nice to see him unwind for once, just to let us know the old Griffith is still there. I agree that it could go in a different direction, though.
A lot is up to speculation when the future of Berserk is concerned, but more than anything I just hope it doesn't turn into a story where Griffith is the typical bad guy and Guts is the typical good guy. I like them both a lot and genuinely think that even though both have been put through extraordinarily unfortunate circumstances, neither of them did anything too disagreeable and I wouldn't really blame them for anything.
Also I apologize for writing as much as I have.
Is Skeletor dead?
I need to see the story through.
If Guts were to kill Griffith now, somehow, all of the people in Falconia and pretty much everywhere would be fucked. Under Griffith, everyone is better off. No nation can oppress the people of Falconia.
Upon Griffith's death, every single Apostle and demon would turn on the people. It would be a slaughter-fest.
Unless Griffith has some sort of ulterior motive with the people of Falconia, everyone is fucked either way. If Griffith fucked up big time, the Apostles would just keep everyone in check under a rule of fear, anyway.
Guts can't do anything against Griffith anymore. Even he has the heart now to understand the consequences his actions would have on other people.
To be clear, I'm not saying he intentionally puts people in harms way, but when they're between him and a demon, he loses himself and just disregards them. And unfortunately, until the rest of the crew showed up, his only response to this was to cover up his regret by continuing to fight and battle, which only made it worse.
what if Guts and the fairies (if they were to become involved, they might as we really don't know the power level of the king yet) killed all the demons first?
I do understand that would require wiping out the entire human faction of the falconia army as well and guts never cared about a soldier's life especially if he's ordered by griffith to kill him.
>Guts and the rest live in Elfheim happily while Griffith rules over Falconia
>Guts let his revenge bloodfest for the sake of Casca well-being.
I would like that ending.
Your face when
Inside of Falconia is the origianl band of the Hawk brought back to life and they don't remember shit about the eclipse
Don't do this to me...
Is there more to Guts other than "grr I'm angry and brooding", because I have an acquaintance who says that's all there is to Gut's character, and feels that Griffith is more interesting. He also hasn't read past Retribution arc yet.
Personally I think they are both interesting but for different reasons.
>Judeau asking Guts what is wrong with Casca
Once you go to the corpse vortex you don't come back, I hope
Clearly it's the flying Dutchman, Guts is in Davey Jones' locker right now.
[spoilers] Griffith will save him soon [/spoilers]
It's definitely not a motorboat.
My rage would turn me into this era's new solar deity.
Part of what I like about Guts is that he doesn't have any motivation. For most of the story he's just living for the sake of it, but at the same time he fights harder than anyone else to stay alive. He's kind of the exact opposite of Griffith in that way, and I think that's why Griffith was so drawn to him.
His lifestyle was something Griffith couldn't relate to at all, but he looked good doing it. It was the first example he had seen of somebody living without a dream, while still having a valuable life.
>Guts reminds him of the eclipse
>Memories start flooding back
>Jedeau dies again from corpse magic bullshit
Maybe if Moffat wrote berserk
They say a picture says a thousand words. Click mine.
If you're the guy that thought we were strictly talking about Golden Age Guts, he's got his problems as well. Mostly that his head is all fucked up with child abuse and before he found the Hawks he'd lost his way and was just a ball of anger and murder. That changed over time with the Hawks and was a crucial part of his character development. He was never perfect. Griffith was the one that was supposed to be perfect and we slowly learned that he wasn't, either.
I would never apologize for such a well written character. Yeah, he's a vicious bastard, and that's part of what I like about him.
I dislike when people take away Griffith's choice to sacrifice his Hawks and blame it all on Ubiq. It demeans him. He wasn't just some naive dullard that was tricked, that decision was the culmination of a lot of things that began long before the Eclipse and fit perfectly within Griffith's established morality and motivations.
Ha, damn you're right. Elf Island 15 years then. With frequent "breaks"
There's more than one side of the Guts coin, don't only focus on one.
If you have to apologize I better go ahead and slice open my stomach for the way I ramble on. In any event there are some points I don't agree with, but more than anything I also hope that there's more to Griffith than being treated as some stock shonen villain. For him to become so mundane would be tragic.
I hope this creates some internal conflict and Falconia isn't just treated as some DREADED PEOPLE FARM OF HELLPAINDEATH or some shit.
Shit no more time. I wish I could stay and discuss this more. I love Berserk.
>Judeau throws himself in front of Guts' sword to protect Griffith
>the entire band of the hawk is re killed by Guts while Griffith maintains an illusion to them that he's still a tortured, immobile sack of flesh
>Guts reminds him of the eclipse
Just imagine Guts trying to retell it.
Just fucking imagine him trying to retell it all without falling to pieces.
>Caska becoming even further traumatized while helplessly watching her comrades get slaughtered
Remember when Bersek and Hunter x Hunter were weekly?
Berserk was never weekly at any point. It was monthly when it started and bi-weekly when it switched to Young Animal.
>Band of the Hawk
There's also soul crushing sadness, loss and despair. Golden Age Guts had a sense of humor and got along well with the rest of the Hawks. Post Golden Age...not so much on the laughing and smiling. But there's more than just anger and crying. Every once in a while he's a genuinely nice guy who goes out of his way to help people. Lately in the story he's grown close to a number of traveling companions. His scenes with this girl are especially heartwarming.
FFFFFFFUUU I'm gonna be late close /a/ close /a/ clo
>tfw no good movies
THEY HAD ONE JOB
Yes.I like Guts' scenes with Schierke.
But it makes me wonder.
How is Schierke's destiny tied to the one of Guts'?
Yeah, I know there's a lot more to Guts than just rage, but I'm trying to convince my friend otherwise.
Guts is like a dog. He can be wild and rapid and when he is stay away from him. But at the same time if he does get close to someone then he is kind, won't let you down, protective of his pack and very loyal
Griffith did nothing wrong.
I used to like boats
The last movie wasn't that shitty.
Although,I didn't like the rape scene. It was too much "hentaish" for my taste.
It won't happen. If it was this easy any godhand would have resurrected their beloved one who have been sacrificed already.
Don't start that shit
I didn't feel the rape scene was anymore more graphic than the scene with Griffith fucking the princess, but I do feel it went of longer than necessary.
It did creep me out though. The whole God Hand part of the movie was great, I think.
he fucked a old man
>she get´s so tramatized she can´t walk anymore and is bound to a wheelchair
He got fucked by an old man. There is a difference.
>Guts has to invent the wheelchair
>Takes 3 chapters
thats even worse.
Yeah it means Griffith is a dirty prettyboy whore.
he raped his friend to piss off a dying man
Guts never should have left, it's his own fault.
>think the new chapter was released
I know you're trolling but there are fujoshis out there who genuinely believe this
yeah because he was the one that sacrificed all his men for a new penis and wings
Griffith was broken and helpless. The ONLY thing he had left was his lost dream that he'd never get to have without the Eclipse. Like you wouldn't have agreed to join the God Hand if you were in his situation too.
> Like you wouldn't have agreed to join the God Hand if you were in his situation too.
never trust martians
He should've killed himself.
But he pussied out.
C-Check your Griff privilege
No, I'm pretty sure I'd just kill myself.
Griffith was a very special kind of person, who's entire life was designed to lead him to make that choice. It takes a special kind of monster, even if he justified it as best as is possible in his head.
The abridged series nailed this one.
Sane Casca when?
>The ONLY thing he had left was his lost dream that he'd never get to have without the Eclipse.
You don't know that he was a great strategist who could still lead Band of the Hawk from the sidelines, and it might be possible through magic to restore some of his body. Sacrifice was taking the easy way.
>But he pussied out.
Actually he tried and he almost did it but then the Behelit activated from his blood.
He was destinies to start the Eclipse and join the God Hand, he couldn't fight it.
>Every day until she gets off the boat
He had no tongue and no tendons or muscles on his arms. They'd have to ask him to blink once for flank from the left, blink twice for retreat.
>tfw first two movies were nearly completely cgi
>and it might be possible through magic to restore some of his body.
What magic? This is pre-Eclipse world, there is no magic. And you think prideful, once powerful Griffith would be happy living life from the sidelines, having to depend on Guts and Casca just to live? No one was gonna follow him now. That's a life worse than death. All those chapters between his rescue and the Eclipse show there was no future for him at he was, only death.
Ok, let's say I'm poor and starving. I decide to, in order to help myself, break into a church charity that previously helped me, bludgeon a priest with his own bible, and rape a nun using her nun clothing as a condom when they try to stop me, before stealing food to feed myself. Was what I did necessary to live? I needed food , so yes.
That doesn't mean it wasn't wrong. Even if you say Griffith HAD to do it, it was still an evil decision, nothing changes that
It is not a Berserk thread without Guts' theme.
It was Griffith's destiny.
Will guts have a happy ending?
It's irrelevant. no happy ending will make up for the shit gut's been through
Is Deepfag still around?
Guts really deserves it
But he probably won't get one
That's a stupid analogy. You're only poor and starving, you didn't just live through a year of torture and end up not being able to the talk/walk or do anything for yourself. You also didn't live your entire life centered around achieving ONE DREAM and in a moment of despair, your dream is handed to you on a silver platter. Griffith was ready to have people die for him & his dream, be it in the battle field or otherwise.
There is no happy end for PTSD sufferers.
He might kill all the demons and Griff, Caska might come back and his kid might even come back to life, normal and healthy.
But the memories stick.
>It is not a Berserk thread without Guts' theme.
Here it is
>tfw there's a possibility of dying before seeing Berserk's end.
>Guts moves on completely
>Crosses paths with Griffith
>Just ignores him
>Griffith loses his shit so hard that the Idea of Evil explodes and the Godhand dies
How about that.
Just because he REALLY REALLY wanted it, doesn't justify his actions. It was sad, but he took the outright evil option.
Hitler worked REALLY hard towards his dream of a perfect Germany. But that doesn't justify the all the horrible shit he did. Unless you're /pol/, but you catch my drift, right?
Magic was there
>Witch bithch that lived near the town those trolls were fucking up
Is explained to have been there for years, handing out the odd miracle when asked. Magic, especially healing magic, was out there. And don't say that it would have been impossible for Griffith, who'd see Zodd, dog shit apostle, and the fucking Godhand, to imagine that such magic existed.
>no one was gonna follow him
Judeau was planning to start a group with the band of the hawk to help him. Everyone in the band was willing to continue to risk life for him, and when they rescued Griffith, people in the countryside were shown to happily hand over goods to support their flesh sack hero.
Griffith had options available to him. He took the easy way and put himself above everyone. That is evil
I can't believe you're comparing Griffith to Hitler.
Hitler killed jews while Griffith killed his friends who fought for him.
Griffith is definitely more evil than Hitler.
Just wanted to add
To leave the island they will need to get on the boat again.
>yfw Schrieke dies
This man raises a point.
I mean, let's balance Mr. Goldstein vs Corkus, Pippin and Caska's dignity.
What do you hold more valuable?
I swore that I wouldn't read Berserk until it was finished.
I took that oath a while ago
What if it's a peninsula?
Elf magic will teleport them back on land.
>All these Griffith apologist
I bet you think it's okay people commit crimes because of their socioeconomic factors. Ya taking the situation in you might feel a bit bad for Griffith but an asshole by any other name would still smell of shit.
What will happen first, Half Life 3 being released or Guts leaving the boat?
The heat-death of the universe.
It would be better if he killed them himself, but I don't know if there's any way he could blame them for being rejected by his husbando.
The correct answer is the Big Crunch
Before she fulfills her destiny?
It won't happen any time soon.
>even in the infinite number of parallel universes there isn't a universe in which Guts is off the boat and HL3 released
So how rapes and attempted rapes are there in berserk? By the time I finished berserk I lost count at around 14 and this was including stuff like breast biting and sexual assault
well, lets tally it up. Also, before I begin, /pol/, I'm going with what's the common standard of what Hitler did, to avoid a shitstorm just go with the 6 gorrillion. Anyway:
It's un doubtable Hitler had a dream, as did Griffith, which both aspired to.
We could compare Hitler's early day attempted coup to Griffiths "imam fuck dat princess, fuk dat king muh butt budy gone". Both led to imprisonment, albeit the reasons are somewhat different.
The sacrifice, 6 gorrilion juden (from Hitlers point of view this WAS nessesary to achieve his dream).
And Hitler's fight against the allies is, from his viewpoint, somewhat like Kushan. Repelling a force that was keeping Germany/ Midland down/ invading them. Of course, Hitler lost.
That wasn't worded as proper as it should be, but I hope you get the general idea
>not counting the off-screen rapes as well
Like? can you name one?
>The Kushan Empire reached all the way to Denmark
That's p fucked up
All the aryan qts who got dicked then thrown into a monster maker by curry-kebabs
But Kancolle was created to remedy that.
Midland is Denmark and the Kushan empire is based on the real life Kushan empire which was in India. Meaning that the Indians conquered either Western Russia, Eastern Europe and Germany then made it's way to Denmark, or they conquered the mid-east, turkey, the balkans, Germany and Denmark.
This is farther than the Mongols ever made it in Europe.
>kebab made it all the way to Vienna
>also north Africans in southern France
There was a period where real life Europe nearly lost control of its shit altogether, toss in man eating snake-money-horse-slug-bee-dog-man monsters, and shit can get fucked to a whole new extent. Especially if plot calls for it.
Not when the Elves get invaded and raped by the God Hand niggers.
>Tfw no Puck rape
Can you imagine if all the elves in the kingdom are just like Puck?
The real question we need to be asking is when will Serpico get to fuck Farnese?
>implying Guts won't meet up with Luffy and Thorfinn while at sea because Griffifth's reincarnation not only merged the realms of Berserk but also that of One Piece and Vinland
It's like you guys don't even see the real reason Miura kept stalling. Obviously he's waiting for Yukimura and Oda to finish their current arcs.
>yfw Griffiths army ends up fighting in the 4th ninja war against Uchiha Madara
I consider Puck a trap. Is that okay?
That ship has sailed.
Never. Farnese is obsessed with Guts' dick.
>the dude guts was based on
Never, Serpico lost his chance when she was crazy as fuck.
Farnese's a huge dyke for Schrieke and Casca now. Serpico 2 beta
That's his half-sister for fuck's sake!
What do you think this is, Oreimo?
Saitama will be too busy fighting Demonbane to give a fuck about small fries like God Hand.
>implying Uchiha Madara wouldn't already be fighting Akashi Seijuro for the title of best eyes.
>That's his half-sister for fuck's sake!
>Implying Saitama isn't piloting Demonbane
Yes, in reality deep down, he actually cares about people. He couldn't bring himself to kill the Loli elf queen like 3 times, He was gagging and throwing up as he was killing the children in the Lost children arc. He protected Rosaline's friend.
Guts is actually a deeply hurt character because he knows what it's like to suffer. He even mature's as a character to abandon his quest in hopes to cure Caska. That would take a lot of effort. But there is the problem of >dat rage. He's fighting monsters and constantly submerge himself in doing inhuman and horrible things, which is slowly turning him into a monster, and he's trying to fight that monster which only gets stronger when he fights. There are many aspects of Guts geniunly caring about people's lives, just as there are many aspect of him being a berserk inhuman monster who slaughters.
>Made him burn his mother alive
>did nothing but heap abuse on him his entire life
>never thankful for anything he does
She was a total bitch. She's not good enough for a qt like Serpico.
All he had to do was give her the dick.
>Yes, in reality deep down, he actually cares about people
He cares about children (due to him having a bad childhood combined with a sense of guilt over murdering the dukes son) and his friends.
He has trouble fighting Rosine because she looks like a child.
She is a bitch but the mother burning thing seemed necessary, they where burning heretics along with anyone who could be considered a sympathizer at the drop of a hat.
>Fighting with the motherfucking demon Angra
Yeah, it's not like she has any fucking authority, being the leader of the people doing said burnings.
She made him do it because of her control issues.
One Punch man is best man.
>implying powerman and saitama aren't each piloting there own demonbanes piloting demonbanes against one another
>implying the God Emporer isn't in his own archeotech triple-demonbane
She made him do it because if he didn't the vatican would punish him
Is this fo weal
People where thinking of burning a kid because he was sad about his father, all they need is a rumor to start an investigation and he could be fucked.
Reread the black swordsmen arc. Even if he's at his lowest, he says that he's a walking disaster and people couldn't protect themselves. When he tells the count's daughter to kill herself, he was actually trying to coax her into getting angry at him so she would have the will to live. There are several other examples of Guts being empathetic towards people, the reason why is people who have suffered tend to understand other people's suffering. Guts and Griffith are foil characters, Guts on the outside is an asshole, but on the inside he understands peoples struggles, Griffith is a charismatic leader who seems to care about his people, but on the inside he just uses people at the drop of a hat and actually doesn't care as much, aside from Casca and Guts that is.
I hate boats. They're not half as cool as trains.
I just hate where the series is going. Guts is becoming the literal embodiment of the Black Knight of folklore with Grriffith as his foil.
One day he's going to break and do something horrible and the world is going to turn on him and celebrate that son-of-a-bitch Graffith as a hero while Gut's dies alone and humiliated by the man who raped his lover.
>Reread the black swordsmen arc
>Using the black swordsman arc as a character reference.
Besides, if you remember, the only time he was remotely personable in that arc was to children.
Guts just doesn't like people.
Correction, Guts doesn't like being around people, I don't think he really minds people in general.
What makes you think anything would've happened then?
>Elfs are all master train builders
> Guts rides a battle train vanguard straight into Falconia
>Griffith just throws himself ass-first into it to feel like guts fucked him atleast once
Just 2 more weeks and we'll have a new berserk chapter
It only took a fucking year but it's finally here
Puck penis when?
Are you from the future?
When he gets a rape scene.
Hope that happens soon
No, but Berserk is scheduled to resume in the second february issue of YA
Who would you fuck Puck or the elf-bitch with Schiereke?
Puck because it rhymes with fuck.
Dare I hope to believe?
Miura has only 2 of his 6 part naussica terraforma story to go
>yfw puck dies
How the hell would you fuck puck? his butthole's smaller than a pinhead
She had a look of panic on her face the entire time she was making him do it. If he hadn't he would've been burned with it and she wouldn't have been able to stop it. She was a powerless figurehead after all.
Force it in. He won't die. He's a fairy.
Damn you just suck dick at reading.
Berserk has made me question people who have a monster rape fetish
It's not sexy at all, it's just sad and gross and disturbing
You feel that way because berserk doesn't romanticise or fetishise its rape. It may have fantasy creatures but its brutally realistic in its depiction.
Read this >>101540084
Hentai does it better because the atmosphere is not as realistic as Berserk's.
Would a live-action Bearserk work?
guts get back on your boat
Every thread until you accept it's superior.
Berserk made me gay
>Not wanting to get fucked by Guts
Guts made me question my sexuality
So I'm assuming that in about 15 years that coliseum thing on the right will have a tournament arc in it.
Have I wandered into Canadian /a/?
Reminder that Farnese turned from God Tier waifu to Supreme Goddess Tier waifu material after she join the party. Enjoy your waifu, faggots.
I agree with this.
Although she shouldn't have cut her hair. Long hair is best hair.
Didnt you want to be like Guts rather than have him be in you?
You mean becomes an Apostle.
How else would Miura have developed her character?
I dont want lolipisstomakhia to end.
Is it worth the read?
Eh, it's fine. I still prefer Casca, but hahaha, yeah right. That is so over.
Even if she recovers she's probably not going to like Guts very much, or she'll die or something.
Guts cannot have Nice Things as far as she is concerned if the manga is anything to go by so far. Not at this point.
Well, not intentionally.
The intent is to nauseate and disgust. However, if you make a survey of /d/ you will find that certain persons who frequent that place do get off on that kind of totally unpleasant monster rape/rape.
Most of them are relatively harmless because they don't have the guts to do anything, thankfully.
As to why I'm there? Not telling.
1. Do you like Lolis?
2. Do you like lolis pissing on your face?
If the answer to either of those questions is yes, you'll love it. If it's no, get the fuck out.
I liked the firs chapter very much
But I liked angry/domineering Farnese...
Is Berserk the only good Sword and Sorcery manga?
Shin Angyo Onshi is an option.
>he's picking Berserk back up.
Art seems kind of meh for an S&S.
Go away Aji Tae
>interesting art style
Seems right up my alley, thanks.
Casca is ugly
Casca is a proud black woman don't need no swords man
Farnese is way superior to her
Uh, isn't the world already worshiping Griffith?
The world loves him. But doesn't worship him.
Didn't the Pope officially make him the Jesus Christ of...uh...what IS the religion of that area anyway? Well whatever, didn't the Pope make Griffith the Jesus of it whatever it is?
griffith is butt whore.
I remember him telling them to follow him but not worship him.
Also dat file name
He's like an ass peddling Black Widow. Poor Gennon. All he wanted was to be smothered in an endless supply of tight pubescent boy hole.
Good night, sweet duke. Another dream cruelly cut short by Griffith's purge.
Why not have big titted girls instead of little boys.
Gennon, being the ever classy man of taste that he is, is addicted to the sweet love that only boysluts can provide. Plus, if he wants to play with tits he has his own. But he'd rather have Griffith play with his tits instead.
That explanation is epic.
Well didnt boat trips last for years in those days? I think he is just trying to make it realistic for all of us!
Frodo is best bro
>any Berserk thread
>my sides = stratosphere
I love you /a/