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>There will never be an anime with better fights than DBZ
>There will never be an anime as exciting as DBZ
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I had a plain bagel for breakfast today. It was okay but it left me wanting more.
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The reason why no other anime can come close to the classic that was DBZ is because:
>No other anime has such charismatic characters
>No other anime has a better world that feels magical but realistic
>No other anime/manga has better artstyle. All other artists (coughODAcough) draw the characters too exaggerated, they don't feel human and realistic like in DBZ
>No other anime has better special tecniques, they all feel cliche
>All other shounen try to copy DBZ
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>>101508037
WILL THE BAGEL HAVE CREAM CHEESE ON IT, OR WILL HE DECIDE TO HAVE PANCAKES INSTEAD? NEXT TIME ON BREAKFAST
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To be honest, Dragonball stopped being fun when it stopped being about Goku's silly adventures.
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>I'm so retarded that when I poop I sniff my own shit
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>>101508364
So basically nostalgia.
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>>101508972
No, it's because no other author puts so much effort into worldbuilding as toriyama
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>>101507980
But anon, Jojo came out nearly 30 years ago.
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>I am strong
>an enemy appears
>he is stronger than me
>I become stronger than him
>repeat

even as a kid I knew it was dumb but I still watched it anyway
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>>101509122
>gay shit
>better than manly shit
no
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DBZ is about as bad as Naruto or Bleach, but it came first and we watched it as kids so we try to defend it out of nostalgia
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>>101509037
Toriyama doesn't do that great, he ripped off Journey to the West then threw some aliens in there to drag it out longer and proceeded to forget half the details and characters of his setting
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>>101509189
>we
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>>101509189
I agree with everything else, but
>we
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>>101509189
Speak for yourself you piece of shit
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>>101509189
none of them are bad, they are just in their own category. It's only natural that extremely long anime have a lot of bad parts. This is why /a/ sucks: they hate these long anime because they are not perfect from start to finish, like it's that easy to make a 500 episodes anime perfect. /a/ = kids.
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Dragon Ball>Dragon Ball Z>One Piece>Dragon Ball GT
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>>101509189
you lost me at "we"

I personally don't give a fuck about shonen, but even I can see that DBZ was better than both of those (not like this is really saying much, they're all awful, imo). Bleach had something special in its earlier arcs but it went to shit after the Soul Society arc.
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>>101507980
>There will never be an anime with better fights than DBZ
Rurouni Kenshin
>There will never be an anime as exciting as DBZ
YYH

And that's just the 90s
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>>101509432
are you kidding right?
Goku would kill both of them
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>>101509354
Legend of the Galactic Heroes was 110 episodes, and in that frame of time it achieved perfection and was more entertaining and meaningful than the entirety of the Big Three put together. The problem is, when shows get to the point of 500 episodes, they start filling in whatever the hell they want for the sake of milking more money. There was a statistic once that showed 47% of Bleach episodes containing filler. If I have to sit through what is essentially Mexican Namek just to get to something that might be entertaining, then it's probably not a well-written show, is it?
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>>101507980
Are they still on Namek?
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>/a/nons denying that they watched DBZ when they were younger

Jesus you guys are some raging autists
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>DBZ fanbase

I love the show and all, but ya'll niggas are fucking stupid if you think it's the best, or even anywhere near the best, at anything.
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>>101509529
I agree they are milking it. But can you blame them? this is exactly what Hollywood is doing. Anime is also a business first and foremost. Sadly, /a/ fails to place themselves in the creator's shoes and notice the huge money potential behind these shows. Then they come here and complain that Naruto is shit, DBZ is shit, Bleach is shit. The sad part is they all watch them despite that. And those who don't just say it's shit because it's cool.

The truth is, yes, these anime are full of flaws, fillers, cliches, repetition etc. But i am able to watch them because i already know this and i am able to look at them as the big picture. For example, when you look at the Naruto's main story, and i am talking about purely the main story set-up and that world, it's pretty great. The entire story could have been done in under 100 episodes probably. Same goes for Bleach. Dragonball is fine as it is imo. But this is where the hate comes from - people don't get that they are cash cows .
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>>101509354
Only shiteating children tolerate huge chunks of filler garbage.
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>>101509522
I'm talking about show quality retard

>>101509606
No one is denying that. We're saying nobody around here defends it because of that
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>>101509606

Except I didn't watch DBZ when I was younger. I didn't get Cartoon Network so I had no Toonami devotion. When I finally got Cartoon Network, it was 2003 and I latched onto Adult Swim when it was still good and showed anime all the time.

Ah 2005 and the broadcast premiere of Eva. Good fucking times
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>>101507980
OP, you will never be 12 years old again.
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>>101509848
"quality" is just a filler excuse that you use as an artificial argument to defend shitty weak characters

THEY
CAN
NOT
BEAT
GOKU
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>>101510310
heh
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>>101510196
Jokes on you, OP is 10 years old.
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>A NEW TREAT APPEARS, AND IT'S NOTHING LIKE ANYTHING THAT WAS BEFORE!
>exept being same formulatic villains that are always being stronge then previous ones so every new battle the same as it was before
>CHARACTERS MUST TRAIN THEMSELVES TO APTAIN NEW POWERS AND TECHNIQES TO DEFEAT ENEMIES
>exept when they usually dying somewhere in the process before MC make a new powerup and finish the whole thing, and all those powers
>oh and powers usually just another variations of BEAM LIGHT
Dragon ball is LOTR of the shounen manga, recycled all common things you see in big3 shit and make them almost as rules of what battle manga should be.
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>watching DBZ
>not reading the Dragon Ball manga with all of the bullshit filler nonexistant
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>>101509037
>worldbuilding
>DBZ

But that's wrong you fucking retard
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>>101509606
Jokes on you, I was watching Guyver back when I was kid, unlike you fifthy casuals.
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>>101509158
You are officially a faggot, and someone clearly foreign to this board. Go crawl back to whatever hole you climbed out of.

>>101509189
But that's wrong. Naruto doesn't even know how to fight. All the Z fighters knew how to fight properly. And a proper kamehameha wave is infinitely more exciting to see than the shit in naruto or bleach.
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>>101508364
>MFW even Kyoanus shit is better than DBZ.

>>101511067
>Fight properly
>Forgot all the kung fu shite DB built on.
>Arm waggling and reused clips for a million episodes.
>AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaAaaaAaaA
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I haven't watched the whole anime, just a couple of episodes. I have read the whole manga though.

People always complaing about the long power-up scenes in the anime but i actually really like the one where Goku goes SS3.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLmbC8Pggco
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>>101507980
Oh look nostalgia goggles.
I loved it as a kid but it's just a power level show
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>>101508364
>realistic
Get blown through X amount of mountains
Lol hurt just a little.
Die.
Ehh can back easy.

>>101511067
>All the Z fighters knew how to fight properly
No techniques, no nothing, just swinging arms and power ups.
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>>101507980
>DBZ
>anything good
Freezer is the only good thing about this clusterfuck.
All your love is 99% nostalgia
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>>101508364
Don't forget that unlike Bleach/Naruto, it actually ended.
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>>101507980
muh nostalgia
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>>101507980
sounds like someone who doesn't read jojo.
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i agree with OP. the only one that came close was Naruto Shippuden, but at this point they are dragging it out for money like they did with the Buu Saga in DBZ. DBZ should have ended at Cell Saga, and Naruto Shippuden should have ended at Pain arc
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>>101507980
What's Precure? All DBZ had going for it were the overblown power levels and effects, the fights weren't anything special.
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>>101507980

What is Jojo.
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OP... that is entirely nostalgia. I love it, but it's because I watched it as a child and I didn't know any better.
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>>101507980
I grew up watching DBZ, pretending to fire off ki blasts during dodgeball as a kid, and all that. I swore by the anime, and then I read the manga. My eyes were opened and I realized that the anime didn't do the manga any favors.

The fights are way too drawn out, way too much yelling, and way too much filler.

DBZ Kai tried to fix this, but it's not enough just to simply cut out episodes and retouch the drawing in certain scenes. No, what needs to happen, in addition to the movies, is that we need a redo of DBZ, much like HxH 2011.

Starting from the Saiyan Saga-Buu Saga, there shouldn't be any more than 100 or so episodes. Absolutely no filler, get right to the fights, make them very intense, with more fighting and less talking, keep the yelling down to a few seconds at most, and be sure to animate the fights extremely well.

We need an entirely different and skilled studio doing the animation for a new DBZ, and one that respects the manga and sticks to it as much as possible.

If you make a DBZ that stays true to the manga, you'll get a good series that people won't ridicule.
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I wonder if these DBZ faggots would do if they watched JoJo.
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Nostalgia goggles the anime, Shit SnK has better pacing than DBZ.
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So JoJo thread?
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>>101515683
ive seen it. its alright. not as god as dbz.

>>101515716
yea thats pretty much bullshit. dragon ball kai came out just a few years ago and it was just as exciting to watch as it was when i was little watching dbz.
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Naruto is better than DBZ. It says not so much about Naruto.
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>>101515773

Just finished SBR. Holy shit it was good. I wanted Dio to keep Scary Monster...

It was clearly the best fucking part.[/spoiler]
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>>101515841
>ive seen it. its alright. not as god as dbz.

Nice bait.
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>DBZ
>exciting
Having something slightly interesting happen every 5 episodes sure is exciting.
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>>101515841

How can you prefer DBZ to Jojo ? I really boggles my mind what you see in DBZ..
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>>101515971
Is it that hard to understand that some people have abysmal tastes?
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>>101515841

Ya that's because they took out all the bullshit and shortened it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njvgKUSR8Ss
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>>101507980
Splash Star did DBZ fights better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3yv9SjYoHQ
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>>101515683
I did watch Jojo after growing up on DBZ.
Jojo is objectively best battle shonen
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>>101507980
if only anon, if only
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>>101516023

Yes. I just don't understand. I can understand beeing 10 years old and finding DBZ cool but I can't picture someone in their right mind thinking it's "the best"

Especially after reading (or watching) Jojo.
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>>101507980
De gozaru, bitch
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>>101516131
obviously dbz has many problems we would notice as an adult. but dragon ball kai pretty much fixed that.
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>>101516239

No, they didn't. DBK makes DBZ more enjoyable, but it hardly fixes any of the character issues or power level shit.
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>>101515683
DBZfag here.

JJBA is tied with HxH as being one of the best Shonen ever, that said, I still want a redo of DBZ like I pointed out here >>101515601 that sticks to the manga and does a better job with the fights.

It would shut down much of the criticism that the original anime gave the series as a whole.
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>>101515601
>DBZ Abridged
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>>101516278
youre a retard. you only care about "power level shit" 20 years later. it was the first to do so, so it didnt matter.
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>>101516353

God damn. Your bait is fucking low tier bro.
I used to be on the DBZ board on IMDB over 7 years ago, and I can say your posts are of the lowest quality I've seen.
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>>101507980
Niggah are you even trying? DBZ might have been good, but it will never surpass the TRUE KING
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>>101516298
Besides being a parody focused on comedy, DBZ Abridged did a GREAT job with the pacing, the dialogues and the one-liners.
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>>101512949
Those two will end tho, Bleach has like 2 more years and Naruto maybe 1 if kishi keeps dragging shit out
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>>101516298
THAT should've been DBZ
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>>101516092
We can still dream anon
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>>101509606
They have to pretend to be "big boys" in front of each other. I've never seen a board filled with so many people who live for the opinions of other people. They'll grow out of it eventually.
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>>101507980
Literally everyone in DBZ has the same power and the fights pretty much all go the same. Punch kick punch kick ki blast ki blast
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>>101518180
Except buu (turn people to candy, absorption), cell (absorption, spawning mini-versions of himself), Babidi (wizard, uses magic), and Deborah (turns people to stone by spitting).

So maybe not literally everyone.
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>>101518631
Yeah sure, new villains have their gimmicks but at the end of the day everyone has the same fighting style.
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>>101518631

green guy stops time, captain ginyu switches bodies, etc.
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>>101519116
All shit compared to goku's tomodachi power
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>>101509382
>any battle shounen
>better than One Piece



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