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Aiko did nothing wrong.
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>>101474056
she didnt deserve that end...
punpun that fucker didnt protect that smile even back then in elementary school
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>tries to help Aiko
>makes things worse every single time
Punpun you fucking faggot.
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>>101474056
She was in the cursed seat.
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She really didn't. She got royally fucked by life and it's fucking heart-wrenching.
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>>101478388
Imagining a happy farm life that aiko could have lived...
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>>101478530
If only Punpun had listened to her and just left the house before her mom ruined everything.
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The fucking panties in her mouth was so damn unnecessary.. ;_;
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>>101478706
What the hell. That crazy bitch attacked them with a knife. There were fingerprints. Not the mention years of child abuse. They killed stupid skank in self defense. Why didn't they call the cops?
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>>101478835
This is second-hand, but I've heard that it's not nearly as easy to get off on self-defense in Japan as it is in a lot of other places. Like you said though, it really seemed like there would be enough evidence to convince the police. So I mainly put it down to them being in shock and Punpun just being an idiot in general.
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>>101478530
>body never gets found
>punpun and Aiko live a carefree life milking cows and having fun everyday
Sure, it would be lackluster as an ending but I wouldn't really mind it.

>>101478801
But the knife also had Aiko's prints, and the repeated stabbing of the corpse doesn't help. Also, everyone else thought she was handicapped and couldn't walk, you can get why they freaked out.
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>>101478801
Yeah this hit me more than the suicide itself ;_;
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>>101479301
Aiko was doing pretty bad because of her wound, she would have had to visit a hospital eventually. Then doctors would probably make an inquiry and call the cops because she has a mark of violence.
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>>101478801
I still don't really get why she did this, was it to stop her from screaming?
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>>101480078
Hanging yourself kinda hurts.

At least this dude looks like he's suffering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnIbPKSDYno
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>>101480078
So that Punpun wouldn't hear her, yes.
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>>101480078
To avoid screaming and waking up Punpun, and I heard it makes it faster.
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Who do you think took Aiko's virginity?
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This dream sequence was the part that got me, I was in tears because it hit me right where I live. I still have vivid dreams about my girlfriend who passed away 3 years ago.
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Wait did Aiko die or was she alive?
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>>101480647
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>>101480555
Sorry to hear that anon. At least now you can escape the world of normalfaggotry and get yourself a waifu.
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>>101480555
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>>101480488
We saw it happen, the amount of blood kind of speaks for itself.
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>>101480647
please respond seriously
I thought it was a failed suicide attempt
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>>101480818
She's dead.
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>>101480818
They'll be together again. When PunPun kills himself too.
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>>101480799
I thought she was on her period... and imagined she was raped by the model agency, which made her eventually quit, or something of the sort.

Thanks for clearing that up then.
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>>101480818
She was hanging on a rope for a while, how can you fail that.
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>>101479244

How did punpun get off with just a few years?
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Aiko was going to die anyways. She had signs of kidney failure as well as a pretty bad looking infection.
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>>101481228
But Punpun got away with it. Even if they did pin anything on him it would be an accessory to the crime at best.
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>>101480555
I have dreams like that about my dog.
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>>101481006
It won't happen. He really is just fine today.
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>>101480555
So you're suffering from post traumatic.
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>>101481091
Pretty easily actually.
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>>101474056
Well... yeah. Are there people who think she did? Punpun put too much shit on her when she was just a really unfortunate, really downtrodden person who recognized the same in Punpun and wanted to reach out.
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>>101480555
Hang in there, anon.
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>>101480078

To suffocate yourself
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>>101481882
> wanted to reach out
More like she was using him as an escape from her every day shit life and latched on to the wrong person. Punpun's aggressive only came out in resentment later on manifesting in his anger that she couldn't pull the trigger wholeheartedly even though they were in the mess already.
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Tell me /a/, Aiko or Sachi?
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>>101482700
Aiko. There's definitely something very alluring about her.
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>>101482551
She only got closer to him because she found out, or atleast got the idea, that he was in a similar situation to hers. She probably assumed he would want to run away too.

>>101483146
Aiko, I don't know what it is but her character feels strangely nostalgic.
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>>101483534
>assolt
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>>101483767
It's on purpose, like ustinction and other words throughout the manga. Keep in mind they're kids before posting your shit-tier reaction images.
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>>101482700
Sachi. Aiko was his past but Sachi was definitely his path a nice future.
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I started a Punpun reread as well.

Completely forgot about the fact that Seki started the fire at the start of the manga and is too afraid to into the fire and save anyone, which creates a lifetime of fire phobia.

Only for him to rush into the cult building fire at the end of the manga to save Shimuzu.
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I think Punpun deserves praise for making compelling drama without resorting to rape.
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>>101484370
but Punpun was raped by his uncle's wife.
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>>101484370
We got suicide and murder instead.
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>>101484370
It did kinda go into NTR territory though, so it's not completely faultless.
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>>101484426
Silly anon, women can't rape.
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>>101484426

Was that really rape? Sure, it was really coercive, but Punpun could have left the cafe at any point. He chose to stay there, really.
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>>101484498
I know, anon. I know!
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>>101482700
Aiko for looks without a doubt, but Sachi for the non-toxic relationship.
Aiko was the worst for punpun, If he ended up with her he would have been trapped forever clinging to the past.
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Aiko for everything.

Another bitch was always like just a filler episode in punpun's life.
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>>101485814
But the point was that life is mostly just filler episodes, and punpun managing to enjoy those normal boring days during the manga arc with Sachi was pretty entertaining too, even if it wasn't very eventful.
Aiko's still better, though.

>>101482700
Can't say no to the eyebrows.
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I thought the story got kind of weak and convoluted at the end, but it was compelling all the same.

What really hit me though was the message. All of the shit that happened was caused by miscommunications and lies. People not telling each other their true feelings or not being able to express them. Human error, basically. We all do it, just tell a small little lie, or just don't make it clear what we want to other people. This story is just a death spiral of worst case scenarios.

I mean, thinking about it, my life would be drastically different, much better, if I just spoke up more. Holy shit, it hurts to think about it.
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I wish Midori got pregnant from raping punpun.

o well
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>>101485091
Dude that anime is so terrible. It doesn't even manage to be so bad it's good, it's just shit.
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>>101486329
The message was trite and inapplicable to anything realistic.
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Fuck, reading this manga makes me realize I need to let go of my past...

...and that I probably won't be able to
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>>101486869
You have to move on, anon.
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>>101486869
Thats fine, anon. Just make sure to keep watching anime and upkeep your escapist mentality.
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>>101486566
I dunno, I feel like I identified pretty heavily with it. Obviously very few people, if any, experience some of the shit Punpun and company deal with, but there are some things that can hit home pretty hard.
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>>101487021
>All this projecting
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>>101487021
I need to stay away from 'realistic emotional' manga like this. Shit gets too real for me
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>>101487138
Yes. Yes it is.
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>>101483534
irt similar situations, the author shows us many scenes during the search for punpun arc that people have a positive view of him and that he has many oppurtunities. this is counter to what he thinks, because he is full of self loathing and incorrect ideas about his life due to mental illness
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I'm still a bit confused about the ending?

Aiko was the real killer, she hangs herself
Punpun gets rescued by his Ex who's having a baby with her other Ex

then it just goes on about some random guy and punpun is with all his friends and family again?
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>>101487271
>random guy

He was one of Punpun's childhood friends.
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>>101487407
that makes a bit more sense, I read the bulk of it over a year ago then read the last bit recently.
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>>101487271
it was showing the cyclical nature of life, as that little boy was obviously awestruck by the transfer student like punpun was. this is essential slice of life manga. punpun got probation for aiding and abeting aiko, or hiding the bodies, or something if you were confused about that. it wouldnt be appropriate to show him as a teacher obv
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>>101487271
The random guy is his childhood friend who moved away in the beginning of the series. It showed that Punpun, despite all his mental illness, was still able to find some kind of life to live.
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>you will never get to relive your childhood knowing what you know now.
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>>101487641
Youth is wasted on the young.
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>>101487732
Teenagers are the worst.
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>>101487271
Wait it's her ex's? I thought it was Punpun's? I should just reread it.
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>>101487825
Teenagers are the best.
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>>101487493

It's not that it's cyclical, it's showing that Punpun's experience wasn't anything special, that people go through the same, albeit less extreme, situation all the time.
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>>101486392
Why? I'm reading the manga and I think it's pretty decent. Is it a QUALITY issue?
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PunPun didn't learn anything from all what happened to him. He's was better off dead
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>That feel when there's no manga that delves into the bottomless pit that is apathy and unmotivation

Can't say I can blame anyone though, it's not like it's possible to make an interesting story out of that shit. (Unless you spice it up with schizophrenia or something.)
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>>101490843
Considering so many people in Japan are depressed NEETs, I'm also surprised they don't at least try to reach that public with problems that concern them.
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>>101490843

All the people who know what it is like are probably too depressed and unmotivated to write anything.

I know I am.
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Hang in there Aiko!
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>>101491494
That's some low-hanging fruit, anon.
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>>101491494
Still hanging!
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>>101490843
>>101491400
We all know that feel.
>feels
>/b/
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>>101491553
The author really left us hanging with that one
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>>101490843

Shunju Aono's "I'll Give It My All Tomorrow"
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>>101482700

Aiko. A pretty girl with broken wings is all that I desire.
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>Pegasus was absolutely useless even in the end
What a waste of pages that guy was.

The ending kind of feels like a shaggy dog story with Punpun going back to the same life he had with glasses girl before he ran off with Aiko for the final arc. Punpun runs off, Aiko and her mom die, Punpun comes home. Well I guess the whole point of it was the development with Punpun and glasses girl's now strengthened relationship and Punpun finally being happy and accepting things as they are after all this.
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>>101491994
If only they didn't meet again. Aiko could have found something or someone better and enjoyed a better life.

Punpun can hang himself for all I care.
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>>101491994
Ass Hamburger was cute though
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>>101492173
Did she die in the fire too? I remember her beginning to doubt things when Pegasus wanted to do some dumb shit.
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>>101491400
I don't know, I always figured apathy was a different animal from depression. Apathy gives you nothing from either end of the spectrum, whereas even Melancholic gives you a fair dose of negative emotions. But then I'm not exactly a certified professional so all I can say is that's my assumption.

I think Saitama is a pretty good example of an apathetic character, but then he still has a conscience to some degree and the manga isn't really about that kind of thing anyway.
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>>101492219
I think they're all dead, they were with punpun at the end.
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>>101492397
Saitama's only somewhat apathetic, he still gets occasionally happy or pissed off about things, but it's a pretty realistic degree of indifference for someone as overpowered as himself. When you can destroy God-level disasters with a single punch it gives you a different perspective on life.

I can't think of any protagonist that's really, really apathetic though, like schizo-spectrum tier apathetic.
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>>101492397
That guy from Saya no Uta was pretty apathetic if I recall correctly.
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>>101493222
He'd have to be, I think.
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Was anyone else a little disappointment with the ending?
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>>101490034
It's a storytelling issue. I don't know how it is in the manga.



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