This is the only thread I've seen of it since after the episode 3 threads stopped.
Has everyone dropped it now?
Not really dropped. Just thought it wasnt worth discussing.
How much longer until the rape?
But yeah, this series is somehow managing to be even worse than Galilei Donna.
Is Cecil still a crappy mary sue?
i assumed so, i couldn't make it passed the third time she said the phrase battle clothes
>How much longer until the rape?
why are you so sure?
Because muh justice needs to learn the cruel nature of real life.
She'd probably end up defending her rapist.
>It wasn't rape because I liked it
I just wanted a show about wizard barristers dammit, why is this such a mess?
Isn't that true?
You could play Dungeons of Dredmor, I guess.
Now I'm curious about what the other skills are.
QUIET, CHILD, AND LET THE FOOL PASS HIS JUDGEMENT
It was nice to see everyone telling Cecil to shut up and do her job.
There's a lot. Some highlights are Paranormal Investigator, Egyptian, Mathemagician, Emomancer, Bankster, Fleshmancer, and Communist.
That sounds hard to believe. Did she follow that up by not listening and repeating that she's wearing her battle clothes?
They were telling her she was obligated to defend a vicious, unrepentant murderer who sexually harassed her during their consultation, and threatened to fire her if she refused.
She bitched and complained about not wanting to defend a serial killer and finally went with it after everyone and her frog told her it was her job so she didn't have a choice.
The whole episode was a plot device for her to get in a ridiculous situation and unlock another wizard power.
>who sexually harassed her during their consultation
Now we're talking.
All he did was lick the glass after she put her ear near it.
Why did Butterfly take his case then?
Dunno about everyone, but it seems most have. Myself included.
Why did they have to turn a potentially interesting show about the political machinations of the courtroom (with wizards) into a mecha battle anime with wizards, and the occasional bit of courtroom stuff that has little real impact. Oh also, PROPHECIES!
Seriously, they had a really interesting idea and went and messed it up. Doesn't help that the MC is the most annoying thing I've seen in ages.
Wait I'm at episode 2 and the show was fine then. What the fuck happened?
Because the boss thought it was winnable, and it was.
The murder's brother fooled them into believing that he had a severe case of DID.
MC becomes a whiny bitch about being a defense lawyer because she doesn't want to represent confirmed bad guys.
YOU'RE DRIVING ON THE FUCKING ROAD WOMAN
OPEN YOUR GOD DAMNED EYES BEFORE YOU PLOW INTO THE CAR INFRONT OF YOU AT THE STOP LIGHT
It's okay, she's using her magic third eye. That's her battle helmet.
What? But she was saying "I'll represent you!" to the No Face guys.
which is why everybody is giving her shit for not wanting to represent the guy who sexually harassed her.
Defending some thugs who haven't even kill anyone isn't the same that defending a psychopath.
Why can't Umetsu write decent characters?
>I have proof that the serial killer lied
>so I'm going to go talk to his accomplice and expect him to turn himself and the serial killer in to be put to death for their crimes.
Only a woman could justify this line of thought.
I find most of the characters tolerable, except Cecil.
Because men can't write for shit
Frog a best
The frog is awful though.
Lost it at that scene. Wakamoto/10
i was more excited for this show than any other preseason and it has ended up as the only one i've dropped (other than imoutoshit ofc). sasuga umetsu
Haven't watched 3 or 4 yet.
Does Hotaru do anything yet? I really hope she tells of Cecil at some point.
Can't believe that the majority of the Butterfly office flock to Cecil since she's a special snowflake, while Hotarun puts in serious work and gets ignored.
Pretty much this. It's Cecil and her utterly retarded naivete and complete lack of work ethic that ruined the show.
fuck you umetsu
The bad writing and direction and pointless fanservice scenes is what ruined the show, faggot.
Hachimitsu should have been the MC
To be fair, that sounds like your regular detectives' thriller final scene.
It was her decision to take it slowly since she isn't really bold. First she took a pet ownership job then something drug related. Soon she'll show her magic powers.
>bad guy gives that one chick who eats all that crazy shit a weird look
>Aww fuck shes going to get stalked/raped/murdered
>just kidding nothing happens
How does it feel to be broken?
Where the fuck is the RAPE!
I liked her character so much until she started spouting that "As long as I have a chance to win I don't give a fuck if I had to represent Hitler 2.0" shit
I thought she ran an attorney firm where she put her morals before the bottom line
It was obvious that the dude was a bad guy and this is fucking Umetsu we're talking about here so I had some expectations.
I don't remember her saying that she was doing her work for the sake of the justice or something like that.
>As long as I have a chance to win I don't give a fuck if I had to represent Hitler 2.0
Its just like real life!
Canadafags literally blown the fuck out.
We all know that this anime would have been better if it was just a hentai. But it's not. It doesn't have anything that can keep it afloat. The setting is crap, the powers went full retard(mecha), and all the characters are shit especially the MC. At least if it had sex in it would be worth a few glances.
I don't understand all this hate towards this show. I think it's pretty good. Good art style. The setting is refreshing. Nice OP. Really, the only bad thing I can think of is the fast paced episodes. But so far it's been very good.
>ALL DAT SHIT TASTE
The way she carried herself made it seem that way
Given she never said she had a moral compass.
I just was given the impression that she walked to the beat of a different drum
>good art style
Everything else is horrible though.
>Good art style. The setting is refreshing. Nice OP
>Good art style
The artstyle is absolute garbage
>The setting is refreshing
You must be new
Forgettable and boring
>I prefer high school setting with a dense MC and girls with retarded big eyes in a SoL or haremshit.
Are you done?
le hungry girl
People were expecting magic spells and legal drama, not giant robots and ass pulls. Also, Cecil is a retard.
Fuck this show.
All I want is a Phoenix Wright anime.
The male characters have good character designs. But the females... what the hell did they think giving them oversaturated hair colors in a setting that is supposed to be serious?
Every time she does something like that I wanna puke.
I was expecting wizard phoenix wright
You and me both.
>worse than Galilei Donna
But that show had paradoxical time travel incest.
Imagine how much better this show would be if Marina Inoue Cop Lady was the MC instead of the speshuul snowflek.
This is why lawyers have no souls.
>I prefer garbage
Are YOU done?
How hilarious of you to say that considering that Cecil is more retarded than Ichika and Natsuru combined.
pretty much dropped this after the frog tried to fuck her doggy style. No one does palaties/yoga and does serious thinking at the same time.
I'm sure that there's a gif that shows what I mean by this, but I feel like the fanservice is getting in the way of the story. Cheap ploys that scream 'hey look at me' is fucking stupid.
Fan service is fine, i guess, shows like imocho one that's on this season where it's clear why you're watching are much better than a weak story with cheap ploys
And yet Galileo didn't bang the loli. Still mad.
She's just as bad. Did you hear the angle she was pushing for the fatass's death sentence? The sad part is that she doesn't seem to have an ulterior motive like her partner, she's just that stupid.
jeeze, that intro
>lady cop shooting knees
>this show looks great!
I was deceived
Seriously this MC is the worst. They finally acknowledge Canada and they make the Canadian the most insufferable cunt.
Probably because Canadians on the internet are pretty much the worst.
It's the one thing they got right
Could have been cash.
Phoenix with magic and Denny Crane like character thrown in for fun
>Buy the BDs for uncensored Canadian ass.
Yea she had her eyes closed for awhile
Do you still have any doubts?
What does this say about Canadian posters?
Also Aussies are considered the worst. Even moot agrees.
>not dropping it when you first saw the hideous mc design
>or the grotesque cg QUALITY
>or the shitty, generic, cute girl cast
>not dropping it after the first 2 minutes of ep 1 when you realize it isn't about a chick and her partner hunting down rogue wizards like badasses
get on my level anon
Canada already had damn good representation in anime, though.
What is the deal with Moyo Tento's eyes?
Is she an Uchiha?
Even Yui was more tolerable than Cecil.
Wow, and you don't even deny it. Fuck off to your haremshit threads.
No idea who those are. Maybe you should stop watching shit.
>Maybe you should stop watching shit.
Right back at you.
Your "what I got" isn't bad enough. Work on it.
Haven't watched this week's episode, still shit?
Why are you so mad? This is exactly what lawyers do in real life.
I'm so bereft of things to fill my time that I'm going to keep watching this since it doesn't actively offend my sensibilities, but I'm very disappointed in it. WIZARD LAWYERS was such a great concept, and they just turned it into generic shit.
YOU WILL SUFFER
Well of course she cecil feel that way. She is still just a child,
took you this long? i dropped after ep 2. the fact that they having another new employee hired on the same day trying to pull rank like a senior employee against the other new employee is shit. dropped because i have tastes and common sense.
>defending a serial killinger who killed 15 people and admitted it and laughed to your face about it
Well of course cecil feel that way. She is still just a child starting out as a lawyer.
If she does it for money then it's good
>defending someone who admits to the crime
The Mask DeMaske case in PW was pretty good.
>As long as I have a chance to win I don't give a fuck if I had to represent Hitler 2.0
Do you even Law 101? Jesus fuck, go to school before trying to criticize a show.
But yeah, with this episode it went from Wizard Barristers to Magician Drama. Umetsu better have something good planned or it'll end as something absolutely forgettable.
and getting yet another new mary sue prophecy magic unlocked, don't forget that part.
Nice edge, Mr. Edge McEdginess von Edges.
The police traitor and the bad guys seems to know something about that. Perhaps she is a royal blood wizard.
She does it cause her boss forces her to. Despite being a defense attorney, Cecil apparently doesn't think murders deserve to have their human rights defended.
You don't understand the ethics of law, everyone (theoretically) deserves the best possible representation regardless of if they are guilty or innocent. A defense attorney's role is not to determine guilt, it's to present the defendants' case.
>defending a serial killinger who killed 15 people and admitted it and laughed to your face about it
That wasn't even a bad part. Are you some kind of moralfag?
I really makes you wonder how she passed wizard lawyer school.
Did she never study past cases?
>how much better this show would be if Marina Inoue Cop Lady was the MC
It sounds good in paper, but so does Wizard Barristers. Japan always, always, always finds a way to fuck things up. Want a show about Wizard Barristers? Too bad, you get this.
Want a show about Marina Inoue Cop Lady? You can be pretty damn sure it'd end up being about her long-lost father or her childhood friend wanting revenge for stolen candies.
Yes, but once you start thinking the client is a scumbag, you're no longer capable of providing the best representation. Cecil should have been taken off the case like she requested.
I really hope they're actually setting this up as a direction for her to grow as a character into a proper attorney.
Wizard lawyer school must be easy if Hachimitsu managed to get through it in only two years.
>show about wizards and lawyers in short skirts
GO TO LAW SCHOOL OR SHUT IT!
Yes that was also stupid. Having her work on the case would be one thing, but forcing someone who clearly things the client is guilty to represent them is a terrible way to run a law firm.
Yeah. But this isn't just 'any law firm'
Kind of like how when .com companies started getting big.
They aren't just large corporations filled with cubicles and faceless employees
he was a prosecutor before
I'm saying that it can be a firm driven by idealism (which it certainly appears to be) and still take Hitler 2.0's case.
>someone who clearly things the client is guilty
Yeah, I'm sure a fool who thinks the client is innocent when he's shouting to his face he's guilty would be much better.
If your client plans to plead innocence you had best believe there is a possibility that what you're arguing is the case or you won't be able to argue it with full effectiveness.
A lawyer who doesn't want their client to win, should not be representing that client.
People still watch this ? I couldn't finish episode 1.
That whole shit with Hachimitsu releasing that chick's cuffs and letting her go on a rampage was fucking stupid.
His punishment is basically house arrest for a week. The fuck was up with that? I enjoyed watching this cop shoot her ass though and what he said to Cecil.
"I'm a cop of course I fucking killed someone who was trying to kill people are you fucking stupid?"
That is all part of the master plan, Cecil is only getting protected because there is some kind of conspiracy going on.
Prepare for backstabbing, my dad works at Umetsu.
>His punishment is basically house arrest for a week. The fuck was up with that?
Yeah, that was painful. I don't know much about these things but wouldn't that normally involve a prison sentence? Assisting somebody with murder intent or something.
The head of the firm bribed his jailtime and disbarrment away.
Illusion magic and a good old fuck go a long way in their world, huh?
Which is even more bullshit.
I can't wait for the moment her cop friend is like: "No, now you owe me a favor."
Well I don't know the laws for the place where they are living but in Austria he would "aid" her in an attempted murder and since attempts are liable to prosecution he would get tried for murder.
And since the whole thing was rather public I don't think that anybody could "pull some strings".
What the hell is that moyoyon bitch?
What's with the females? It's like a completely different artist drew them. Also, why the fuck did they have to throw in magic mechs? It's unbelievable mages never rebelled when they have near invincible mechs.
>early on metal manipulation is mentioned as a rare magic
>a LAW FIRM has two people using that magic working at it
So, the male cop really is evil? I hope he murders Cecil. That fucking pose where she touches her nose made me drop this pile of shit. I don't even know why it pisses me off so much.
what's really weird is
>lawyer wizards summoning giant mechs to do battle with lawyer wizards and sometimes to court rooms tuff
sounds kinda cool but then you watch the show and it's really bad. Cecil is a terrible overdone MC.
What I got is still more enjoyable than what we really have.
My fucking sides
How did they ruin such a great concept?
>Court scenes are over after couple of minutes despite dedicating previous episode to the investigation
>But judge, muh battle clothes!
>Judge does nothing about it
>Meanwhile, everyone else can use their magic in their work clothes perfectly fine
>Guy gets house arrest after nearly getting everyone killed
>If that was done in a sane world, he would be considered an accomplice
Would it have killed the writers to research law?
By wasting their budget on fight scenes and fan service instead of hiring good writers.
But the fights and fan service aren't very good either.
Let's not forget where Cecil brings in criminals to testify. That just shits on any type of actual legal system in the real world.
>>Guy gets house arrest after nearly getting everyone killed
Well he furthered the Wuds of Macal's goal by killing a Wud of Labone who they deemed a threat to their masterplan. Seeing as the legal system is set up by them to wipe out the Wuds of Labone they could have easily chosen to be lenient. I mean they lost nothing and he turned their loss into a victory.
Also thanks to it Cecil awoke to a new power. That makes them really moist.
To make up for all this dumb shit, I hope Cecil fails her mothers retrial.
I can't wait for the other new lawyer to unlock a new power. Then they combine their power to defeat the big bad! Who cares about the law shit, here's another CG scene!
>Conspiracy to commit murder
If the principal faces the death penalty or life imprisonment, accessories after the fact face up to 15 years' imprisonment.
PW: The animation when?
As much as I like secretly powerful people pretending to be retards she just comes off as really retarded.
>Who cares about the law shit,
The prosecution's case in the first episode pretty much cemented that.
Never. You just get S2 of this.
So Momoyon told Cecil that she can't use magic when they were about to get mugged, then this episode she's flying around with glowy eyes n shit and Cecil says nothing?
Gonna be delicious when he backstabs his partner.
the first part of the first episode was great, and then they introduce Cecil and everything goes down hill.
The floating thing was, I assume, Hachimitsu.
>MC's a mary sue
>not muh Phoenix Wright
>Quinn should've been the MC
>this fictional world's magic laws are stupid
>when are getting a Phoenix Wright anime?
>too much fanservice
>where's the rape
>designs looks like shit
>tfw we'll never get a Phoenix Wright anime
You guys are getting real annoying. If you hate it so much then drop it already. Cecil's part of some conspiracy and there's something up with Momoyon. Shit's getting real good.
>non-MC unlocks a new power
Yeah, fuck legit criticism.
I like the CIA duo. The guy's VA is the same as Dandy.
Suwabe Junichi. Is it your first season watching anime?
Yes, pleased to meet you. I mean, us oldfags eh?
I wasn't counting that fight, that was great. Fucking bait and switch bullshit.
Isn't that how it always goes? You can try and point out valid problems and irregularities about a show to someone else, but that doesn't mean they will understand the circumstance if they are an avid fan of the show. In fact, its more likely the opposite happens; they will believe you are not there in good faith to discuss the show and will assume you are there merely to "ruin fun." Fuck, I tried pointing out how horribly paced the first two episodes were in a thread once and was pretty much shit on by everyone because they couldn't take any sort of opinion that may state that their favorite anime this season may not be perfect.
So much shit taste. Seriously, just go back to watch K-on or IS if you can't handle these shows.
>Can block a hail of bullets
>Can't block a cigarette which somehow hit him in the face after travelling across an entire train car AGAINST wind pressure
rule of cool
yeah honestly, everyone is within acceptable parameters but cecil is honest to goodness turning into some prime mary sue shit, like she wasn't already, but even moreso now
No, it was the giant fighting wizard robots
I'm all for legit criticism but if you're gonna cry about the same things in every thread then drop it already. I'll never understand this "I can't drop it or might miss out on something" mentality that goes on here.
I did drop it. This is the first time I was here for an active thread. It's not always the same people every time.
>if you're gonna cry about the same things in every thread then drop it already
I don't join every thread to shitpost, unlike you would probably believe. If you keep hearing it, then its from other people, which then only reinforces the things I'm saying since other people find it to be true as well.
And why should I drop a show simply because of how others react in a thread? The "discussions" that one has in here doesn't effect the quality of the show what so ever. Just because I have a gripe about the show that has valid points behind it doesn't mean that the show is immediately trash. This is what literal criticism is, and it is supposed to promote well thought out posts so as to have a conversation.
>"I can't drop it or might miss out on something" mentality
Nice assumption based off of a single post.
I thought lawyers could reject the cases they don't want in real life
Boss lady can reject any case she wants, but at the end of the day she has a business to run and needs the money. Cecilscrub has to do what she's told or her career is over before it hardly started, and then her mom gets executed for sure.
Also she said she doesn't accept any case. She made Cecil work in the case in order to gain experience.
It was a magic anti-mage cigarette.
If only her boss would also force her to dress appropriately.
I havent, I cant drop it the spells are interesting and so are the visuals,i'll put up with the shitty writting
>it was the giant fighting wizard robots
Thats what made the show great
>You can try and point out valid problems and irregularities about a show to someone else, but that doesn't mean they will understand the circumstance if they are an avid fan of the show. In fact, its more likely the opposite happens; they will believe you are not there in good faith to discuss the show and will assume you are there merely to "ruin fun."
Every Kirino thread.
I dropped it too, I barely ever see any threads for this show in the first place so this was the only chance I got to post.
I dunno why but I am going to stick to this show and hope the direction changes beyond a badly-introduced case of the week that gets solved by catching the bad guys. I am probably going to be let down, but I would like to think that the first half of episode one indicates that we can have a second shift in focus in this series.
This show would have been AOTY if it was about muggle police tracking down wizard criminals.
that girl used magic
>Quinn should have been the MC
+1 I thought the female officer would be the MC than minute 4 arrived...
>How much longer until the rape?
Until the frog familiar can't take being with Cecil's delicious body and her pushing off his advances you mean?
You took your time /a/non. How did you last this long?
I cant find the hate inside me to finally drop this series,its not a really bad series but its not that good either. I guess ill see this week episode too.
Maybe t will get beter
But if they had done any research at all, we wouldn't get to rip our hair off in frustration.
That's half the fun, isn't it?
I heard this show has Kermit and Ms.Piggy is that true?