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>Acclaimed director Hayao Miyazaki let audiences know how he really feels about the anime industry in a recent television interview. According to the recent retiree, anime suffers because industry staff is made up of otaku who "don't spend time watching real people" and are "humans who can't stand looking at other humans."

>Miyazaki explained that animating people can only be done by those who spend time observing others, something he feels the industry lacks because it's "full of otaku."

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2014-01-30/miyazaki/the-problem-with-the-anime-industry-is-it-full-of-otaku

What do you think, /a/?
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The only ones that support it are the otaku.
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He's right and everyone knows it.
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>>101456700
It's the only ones they are catering to anymore.
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>>101456721
I would like to see even 1 (one) example of deficient animation due to shut-in animators.
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Oh boy here we go again.
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Stop posting this shit.
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I wonder if OP will get banned if I report him. Well, let's try it.
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>>101456787
As they're the only ones buying it.
Space Dandy won't do over 10k at most a volume, same with KLK. Same with every other show where they try to get non-otaku to buy something. P&S sold, what, 2k a volume for a series that Gainax wrote as something directly influenced by the west and made for Japan.
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>"The problem with people these days," said the 73 year old man, "is that people just don't do things the way I learned to do them when I was younger." He then went on to ask me which respected print publication this interview would be appearing in, before telling me to stay off his lawn.
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>>101456913
Are you talking about sales in Japan or sales internationally because it's pretty apparent that they could care less about sales in the former.
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Why the fuck does Colonel Sanders care about the anime industry?
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He has won two oscars so he must be right.
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>The Problem With America Is It's Full of Niggers
He has a point.
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Col sanders pls go. Popeyes is better anyway
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Jesus Fucking Christ.
>Here we go again.
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>>101456895
>>101456848
>>101456811

the original interview was posted less than 10 days ago, how many threads has it really had
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The greatest thing about the anime industry is that its staff is made up of otaku who happen to cater to my tastes. If it makes them money then I'm completely fine with this.
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>Says the creator of many series that had people and creatures that were less life-like than most otakupandering shit made today.

I love all his works and I love a lot of anime, but you can't be a pot and go around calling all the kettles black, especially when most of those kettles are fans of your work as well as the stuff you dislike.
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>>101456913
It wasn't like this before the 2006 crash, they saturated the market, then folded on safe otaku fodder.
After 7 years of mostly crap bad prejudices have encroached and keep non-otaku away.
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>>101456997
But does Popeyes use 11 secret herbs and spices?
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>Anonymous members of 4chan let audiences know how they really feel about the anime industry in a recent post on /a/. According to the hacking collective, anime suffers because industry staff is made up of directors who "spend time pandering to otaku" and are "humans who want to make money as fast as possible."

>Anonymous explained that making money can only be done by those who pander to current market interests, something they feel the industry lacks because it's "full of edgy attempts at making true art."

What do you think, /a/?
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>Caring about the opinions of an old hack that keeps recycling the same old shit without letting anybody express their opinion.
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>>101457068
This has been going on far longer than 2006.

In fact, what Miyazaki has said is just him parroting shit from the late 60's and 70's.
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>>101457038
>the original interview was posted less than 10 days ago, how many threads has it really had
Almost non-stop threads since it was posted.
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Of course he is correct. For the most part otaku only want to buy anime that panders to themselves regardless of quality.
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>>101457185

Christ, I'm sorry

should I delete this thread?
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>>101457038
To put it simply, a fucking LOT.

Please check foolz before posting news like this.
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>>101457134
Not true. Before 1996 it was mostly pandering to children.
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>>101457210
Even if you do, someone else will probably make a thread.
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>>101456659
I think I've seen this exact same thread atleast 500 times.
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> Kyoani body language > Ghibli

There, I said it.
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>>101457210
Pretty sure you can't even delete your threads anymore.
Thanks moot.
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>>101457230
>Before 1996 it was mostly pandering to children.

And then came the Beepboops and Evangelions.
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>>101457210
Just stand idle and watch what happens when a faggot like you doesn't lurk more.
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>newsgroup_posts_from_1994_kawaii_is_ruinin_my_animu.jpg
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>>101457233
>>101457261

>you cannot delete this post.

Well, sorry anons, even if I commit sudoku this thread will still be up
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>>101456659
Yet Miyazaki doesn't do shit to stop it. All he does is sit back in his rocker and spout the same bullshit while rehashing movies.
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>>101457230

You know, LoGH, Ranma, Grave of the Firelies etc. were all way before that.
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>>101456787
Yeah and what happens to noitamina when they do things not for otaku? Oh right, it flops.
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>>101457095
Popeye used khat he got from a voyage to Somalia, and disguised it as spinach
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>>101456913

KLK selling pretty well. Also, Madoka isn't aimed solely at otaku, and it sold quite well.
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>>101457210
Quit rubbing salt on my wound. You know damn well you can't do that.
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>>101456797
Wow he's not talking about the animation you dumb fuck.
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>>101457292
It's tragic how Evangelion, despite being the masterpiece it was, doomed the industry for the following decades. Anime industry wasn't prepared for Evangelion.
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He is the problem.
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>>101457423
>Khat contains a monoamine alkaloid called cathinone, an amphetamine-like stimulant, which is said to cause excitement, loss of appetite, and euphoria.

But Popeye rarely if ever wore a fedora.
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>>101457065
Wow its like you cannot comprehend anything beyond the non-literal. He's not talking about being surreal hes talking about otakus not writing realistic characters
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>>101457507
>doomed the industry
Fuck off.
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>>101457462
Gen Urobuchi is a skilled writer. He is the reason that something so bland as mahou shoujo could be turned into the wild ride of desperation, desolation and redemption that Meguca was. Being Meguca is suffering.
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>>101457503
>Miyazaki explained that animating people can only be done by those who spend time observing others, something he feels the industry lacks because it's "full of otaku."
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>>101457547
Fedoras were cool and manly back then. That's why he used an edgier sailor hat.
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but Otaku are the japanese market.

Miyazaki, regardless of its work quality, is pretty much adulated by normalfags.
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I don't see how Miyazaki is qualified to talk about the anime industry. He has been in his own category away from the rest of the industry since, what, the early 90s?

It's like listening to the President of the United States talk about labor rights in Singapore
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Enjoy your no Oscar, grandpa. Frozen was better than your crap about airplanes anyway.
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>>101457671
>otaku are the japanese market
Not true. Otaku are only a subset of the Japanese market. Profits will be always made, since it is a niche market.
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>>101457588
>realistic characters
What about his characters were realistic? In Laputa, fucking little kids save the world from certain doom when the entire army couldn't do a thing. How the fuck is that realistic?
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>>101457257
KyoAni relies to much on your "typical anime acting".
It's okay for most of the anime they've done but in an anime that requires a more realistic acting like Free!, it feels off.
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>>101457671
What is Anpanman, What is Golden Eggs.
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>>101457693
>no nomination for Madoka
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So, he's saying that to do proper animation of humans, you need to study human movement and most animators for anime are otaku who just study other anime? That it becomes increasingly less human looking due to this like the effect of a game of telephone?

Makes sense.
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what a giant faggot. literally all ghibli movies are for fucking kids. of course otaku dont watch that shit, just like tumblr-audience watched adventure time instead of disney.

but otaku-material doesnt even air on prime time TV in japan, only at night, when successful people are asleep or outside, clubbing. its not like it is taking away attention or anyting.
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>>101457734

You're complaining about the story, not the characters.
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>>101457732
Normalfags give strong sale numbers for the popular crap, like everywhere, but the core market is otaku and fujoshi. Don't forget BD and DVD sales aren't solely where the profits come from but also the related goodies like figurines, scrolls, CDs, etc...
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>>101457676
>you are now aware why the world hates the US foreign policy
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>>101457409
Exceptions. They are the Madoka Magica of their days.
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>>101457855
US read:Jews hold your economy, better listen to them.
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>>101456659
We've had this thread every time a bitter old has-been like Miyazaki or a hack like Yamakan says something retarded about the anime industry that fits with ANN and /v/-tier retardation.

Miyazaki gets angry whenever anyone in the anime industry is successful besides himself. He's even bitched about the creator of Akira at one point. Anime is doing fine, and there is plenty of great stuff being made whether you think so or not. Everything you don't like about anime has been around for decades, so don't bother with that argument, either.

There are countless charts and examples to prove the "moe is killing anime" mentality wrong, I could post them a 1000 times and the doom and gloom manime kiddies will still disagree, because they deny truth and facts more than libtards.
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>>101457693
>Frozen
>incredibly popular
>neckbeards love it
>waifu-tier girls
>tons of fanfics
>lesbian undertones
Disney just discovered the neckbeard/tumblr audience.
>next Disney film
>no men
>cute girls doing cute things
>official pillows
>even more lesbian undertones
It's over.
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>>101457855
Republicans seem to get all the shit for it, but as far as I can tell (I live in a blue city in a blue state), Democrats are the primary ones who want to regulate the fuck out of every little thing -- whether or not they have any real life exposure to it.

Republicans mostly seem to not give a shit about anything as long as they have muh guns and muh freedom and muh bible.

I always thought the repubs were the lesser of two evils, but having lived under a demo administration I'm starting to doubt that.
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>>101457940
>no men
Enjoy your feminist fantasy, westerners.
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>>101457830
How am I not complaining about the characters?
I'm saying that you have an entire military of incompetent thieves and a little boy who is some expert acrobat/pilot and who has absolutely no fear of death.

The fact of the matter is, anime has rarely had realistic characters and his works were not some amazing exception.
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>>101457984
>yuri
Oh I will enjoy it.
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>>101457940

Didn't Disney do that with the Tinkerbell movies or something?
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I WILL REPEAT

THE INDUSTRY

NOT THE FANS

THE INDUSTRY

OTAKU ARE THE ONE MAKING ANIME ITSELF

THAT'S THE PROBLEM
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Again?

Report and move along.
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>>101457897
I don't have a problem with moe existing, I can even deal with shoehorned-in moe characters (I thought Mayushii in Steins;Gate was awesome, for example).

I just wish every season wasn't like 90% moe harems.

My tastes line up with the subject matter that was popular in the late 90s/early 00s and I just wish there was more of that.

But looking at the amount of 80s blowback currently in the market, we'll probably see lots of 90s/00s homages in the near future.
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The problem isn't otaku so much as laziness, unwillingness to experiment and a lack of creativity.

Sure, being insular doesn't help with those, but it's not specifically what is destroying things.

Pedobait gotta go though
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>>101458069
Watch live-action films. They are better anyway.
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>bad translation of an interview with a guy who has only done the occassional movie.
>still shitposted
irc pls.
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>>101458024
Miyazaki's works are very traditional, basic stories told very well. They're like Zelda -- nothing original or mindblowing, but a classic story told very well.

His characters aren't realistic so much as they're so archetypical that anyone can relate
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He is completely right. People just want some cheap forgetable fun with cute sexualized girls to forget about their lifes. Anime is losing all its artistic side if there was ever one
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>>101458069
>I just wish every season wasn't like 90% moe harems.

It's a good thing that's not the case.
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>>101458075
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>>101458058
THERE IS NO PROBLEM

I WILL REPEAT

THERE IS NO PROBLEM

MIYAZAKI IS A NIGGER
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>>101457842
You have never gone to Japan, haven't you? Normalfaggotry has way more market and profit than otaku shit. Wherever you go, there's a One Piece or Naruto figurine about the touristic attraction you have just visited, be it a Kyoto temple or Asakusa in Tokyo. It doesn't stop there, you go to a random electronics store in Kobe and there are alarm clocks with the characters of your favourite mainstream show. You go to Miyajima and there are posters with Luffy and Chopper running through the temple gates. In Hiroshima's train station they give you a sticker album about the newest Pokemon movie with the purchase of your train ticket. You go to whatever Uniqlo you want and they have t-shirts with Nami, Robin and Chopper printed on them. This applies to every place, from Kyushu to Hokkaido.
However, Akihabara is also shocking. There are buildings devoted to figurines and merchandise that you can only get there, as well as similar places in every major Japanese city.
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>>101458124
I agree, I have nothing against his characters or his stories. I enjoy them. But he can't go around calling the industry 'unrealistic' with stories and characters like his.
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>>101458123
Post proof that it's a bad translation.
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>>101458155
Maybe not harems, but pretty much every show is about cute young girls or cute young boys.
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>>101458058

So? People who make a thing are typically the party most interested in the thing.

This really seems more like an old man grumbling because his time is past and a new generation with new expectations and sensibilities is taking over.
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>>101457885
Madoka is the cancer that is killng the industry(right after Eva) and everyone knows about it.
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>>101458110
Live action films suck at dealing with stuff like erratic psychology, humans coexisting with androids, parallel dimension shifting, alternate histories, etc.

I initially got into anime because it had the balls to tell stories like that, while most live action films are either too populist or too low budget to pull it off right
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>>101458209
>new sensibilities
Yeah, sensibilities of a fucking log.
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>>101458069
>I just wish every season wasn't like 90% moe harems.

And each season isn't. The people that share your opinion don't watch anime, they judge it from the sidelines and act like it should belong to them. It's fine if you like anime on a casual basis. The problem is you idiots treat anime like an ex-girlfriend that betrayed you and you just refuse to move on. Fuck off if you don't like it, no one is making you watch it.
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>>101458198
dude, your talking about the manga industry, we are talking about the animu industry. which is dominated by Otaku.
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>>101457671
so is SnK, KLK, and a host of other anime /a/ glorifies.

It's galling that vile people are permitted access to Miyazaki films, but it doesn't diminish my appreciation for them.

Also, his statement about the state of the industry is correct, but unalterable(since it's a business first and foremost).
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>>101458209
>Hollywood gives a shit about it's movie other than how much money they make



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