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New chapter of Saki manga is out.
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>>101448182
>Haruto in the last panel
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>>101448154
>Saki was subjected to this shitty show
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Last page.
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This is where the show went wrong. We could have had more Saki and A-Drei but instead we got to watch Haruto act like a faggot.
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>>101448919
>blaming it on Haruto instead of Shoko
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>>101449074
This
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>>101448902

So there'll be a last chapter coming?
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>>101448902
>chapter 9 confirmed
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>>101448919
>>101449074
Both are to blame.
Shoko was unwilling to question Haruto and he was so obsessed with normalcy because of her.
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>>101449541
>he was so obsessed with normalcy because of her.

So basically its still all her fault.
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>>101449541
daily remnder that Shoko a shit
>tfw when Haruto and Saki will never have immortal babies together
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>>101449762

Shipperfag pls. Nobody liked that pairing.
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>>101449792
why ;_:
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>>101449843

Someone post the fanart list.
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>>101448393
>>101448432
>>101448469
Literally fuck off to the one who had the brilliant ideas. Crazy mother, child porn, rape, experiments. Really? It is like she is a punching-ball for the staff's stress.

>>101448902
Wish we got scenes like that in the anime, last part sort of lacks of that "coolness" it had in the first 3/4.
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>>101449843
Give me a moment, mine's outdated.
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>>101449792
It was the best non-homo pair.
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>>101449875
for>>101449854
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>>101449879

/a/ poll of pairings was:

1) LieselottexL-Elf
2) HarutoxL-Elf
4) A-dreixSaki
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>>101449879
Try harder.
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>>101449792
Actually, I liked it. I mean, at least it wasn't just a hugbox , they were fun to watch, had a little chemistry together and, well, when Haruto wasn't in full-brain damaged mode, Saki managed to force him being a man.

Saki x A-Drei is way better though.
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>>101449913
>4) A-dreixSaki
>Haruto getting NTRed in his death
that's horrible man
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>>101448919
What? No. I'd say the whole Saki and A-Drei arc is wrong. Saki was pushed to the side, that whole arc served only to resolve the useless dorama between A-Drei and L-Elf.
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>>101449762
Daily reminder that Shoko lived.
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>>101450010
at least he didn't die a virgin
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>>101450011
>that whole arc served only to resolve the useless dorama between A-Drei and L-Elf.

SSSSH. Pay attention to your words, fujoshi can kill you for less.
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>>101449873
Remember anon, being best girl is suffering.
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>>101450054
>Daily reminder that Shoko lived.
it wasn't supposed to be like this
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>artist wants Saki to be happy
>forced to write mindbreak doujishi stuff because of staff's lack of creativity

Man, I wouldn't be him for even a second.
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>>101450011
>Saki was pushed to the side
But that's what I was saying, we barely got to see anything Saki was doing. The Shoko/Haruto plot needed to have ended when it looked like their relationship being damaged beyond repair so the show could move on.
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>>101450187
>when it looked like their relationship being damaged beyond repair

Unfortunately, the show was giving us the false hope that Haruto would change and stop being a faggot.
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>>101450302
But he wasn't so much a faggot, I think we got way worse. I mean, his problem was just that the staff never cared a lot of him and made him go back and forward for plot convenience.
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>>101449854
Valvrave main tag: 4557

Characters:

L-Elf: 2872
A-drei: 1260
Haruto: 686
Lieselotte: 369
Saki: 357
H-neun: 266
X-eins: 258
Q-vier: 251
Shoko: 243
Akira: 150
Jewbro: 131
Thunder: 106
Marie: 74
Cain: 74
Aina: 42
Kibukawa: 38
Takahi: 38
Pino: 35
Kriemhild: 35
Nanami: 22
Satomi: 25
Otomaya: 10
Prue: 9
Iori: 2
F-6: 2
Amadeus: 2

Pairings:

Haruto/L-Elf (and L-Elf/Haruto): 711
A-drei/L-Elf (and L-Elf/A-drei): 602
L-Elf/Lieselotte: 245
H-Neun /X-eins (and X-eins/H-neun): 165
A-drei/Saki: 50
Thunder/Dog (jewbro): 50
L-Elf/Shoko: 33
Cain/L-Elf: 30
Haruto/Saki: 28
Q-vier/A-drei: 26
Haruto/Shoko: 23
Jewbro/Haruto: 18
Jewbro/Aina: 14
Shoko/Akira: 12
L-elf/Q-vier: 12
Satomi/Akira: 9
H-neun/L-Elf: 7
Cain/Kibukawa: 4
Thunder/Akira: 4
Cain/X-eins: 4
Satomi/Tahaki: 15
H-neun/Kriemhild: 6
Cain/Prue: 3
Cain/Kriemhild: 3
L-Elf/Saki: 3
L-Elf/Akira: 3
H-neun/Kibukawa: 2
Prue/Pino: 1
Haruto/Pino: 1
Kibukawa/Nanami: 1
A-drei/Kriemhild: 1
Cain/Mirko: 1
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>>101450464
>Lieselotte: 369
They sure loved those few frames in the OP.

Is there a way to know how many fanarts without pairings every single character has?
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>>101450527
She was L-Elf's waifu and her death guaranted his purity for the rest of the show.

Of course they love her.
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>>101450734
It was a joke, come on...

However, does anyone need a mediafire mirror for the chapter?
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>>101450766
I know anon. It's just that I'm frustrated at how the female characters were treated in this season. I waited all that time for her introduction, only for her to be killed off the next episode.
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>>101450837
>only for her to be killed off the next episode.

At least you got a big Liz in the BD box, it could be way worse. But yeah, it was very disappointing and unfair to play with watchers' feelings this way ;_;
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Can't read moon and haven't read the manga yet.
Does it continue the story?
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>>101451126
We don't know, we have to wait for next chapter, but it will probably stop where the anime stopped just adding a bit of stuff like they were doing till now.
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>>101451204
Goddamnit. I wanted to know what happened after, you know, the 200 years later scenes.

Who was the kid? Did Shoko get in unit 01? Who are the Golden Seven? Were the Valvraves rebuilt and new pilots chosen?
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>>101451268
Then wait for the last drama CD, I think they will explain something there, even though it is not a continuation of the story, since it is supposed to be placed before the 200+ years later epilogue.
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>>101451268
>I wanted to know what happened after, you know, the 200 years later scenes
We all do, anon, we all do.
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>>101451268
>Did Shoko get in unit 01?

Yes, in episode 22.
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>>101451315
>implying I can understand moon except the few words I've picked up.
Guess I'll wait. Student Council president (forgot the name) become a pilot too, right?

>>101451355
But she didn't become the pilot. I meant did she revoke her humanity to become a Magus.

>>101451340
Hold me, anon.

Also Shoko best girl
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>>101451401
Satomi is not a pilot as far as we know.
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I'm 5 episodes into the second season. Is it worth watching the last 7, or should I just drop it?
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the important thing about Valvrave is that the entire franchise is a complete failure and Sunrise will forget it just like Buddy Complex
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>>101451579
Give me a good reason to drop a show which you've almost finished.
There are none.
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>>101451579
Drop it now, the good part has ended with Marie's death.

>>101451581
Are you from the future?
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>>101451579
You're so close to being done, might as well finish it. Also, be prepared to rage from episode's 21 until the end.
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>>101451567
Weird, because the Valvrave wiki (I know) said he's a pilot.
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>>101448902
Thanks for sharing. Would you mind posting a zip of it and the BC chapter too?
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>>101452059
What are their sources?
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>>101452120
No idea, but the front page states:
UNIT 01
PILOTS:
Haruto Tokishima
Marie Nobi (Test Pilot)
Shoko Sashinami (Future)

And Satomi Renbofuckwhydidn'tIcopythename's profile:
He became the second person that his future is shown. Together with "the prince" and also Saki, he seems to be immortal because the future takes place more than 200 years after the setting of the original story.

Species: Magius (future)
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>>101452120
I think they're assuming it because he was shown alive in the future.
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>>101452296
Even if the future one is him, all we know is that he became immortal. He's not piloting anything as far as we know.
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>>101452428
They called him someone who resembled Satomi in the radio so it might not be him at all.
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>>101452095
https://www.mediafire.com/?kz71tonycv2esir

I will post the BC one soon.
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>>101452543
>second season 2
So... Season three?
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>>101448182
これまでのあらすじ
What happened so far
人気テレビアニメ「革命機ヴァルヴレイブ」のヒロイン流木野サキを主人公する、スピンオフコミック!真暦71年、秘密裏に「ヴァルヴレイヴ」という武器を作り出していた中立地帯はドルシア連邦は奇襲を受ける。その混乱の中「ヴァルヴレイヴ」に乗り込んだ時縞ハルトや流木野サキは、消して死ぬことがない「神憑き」となり、襲い来るドルシアと戦いながら、世界の宿命に抗って行く・・・。ドルシアに捕われ、人ならざる不死身の生命体でありことを知られたサキ。世界を敵にした彼女らの運命の運命はー。
This is the spinoff manga of the popular anime, Valvrave the Liberator featuring Rukino Saki as the main lead. In the 71st year of the True Calendar, the neutral Jior was developing weapons named "Valvrave" when the Dorssia Federation staged an ambush. In the midst of these attacks from Dorssia, Tokishima Haruto and Rukino Saki staved them off by boarding the Valvrave. Which, in turn, made them the "Kamitsuki", people who will not die. They now bear the fate of the world. However, Saki has been captured by Dorssia and has been used her as proof of undying creatures. Now that the whole world is against them, what would be their fate?
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>>101451606
>Are you from the future?
or they could revive it by revamping the entire thing and make all the girls into pilots and dump the main writer
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>>101452606
見ての通り我々が戦ってきたのは不死の軍勢だった
As you all can see, what we have been fighting against are an army of immortals.
これがモジュール77の真実である!
This is the truth behind Module 77!

これはどういう事だね!?
I demand an explanation,
差南総理!!!
Prime Minister Sashinami!

私にも何が何だか・・・
I also have no idea about all this.
ねえハルト・・・?
How about you, Haruto?

モジュール77の住人は人間ではない
All the residents of Module 77 are not humans.
人に在らざる化物のだ!!
They are monsters that look like people!

・・・っ!!
!
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>>101452542
That would be dumb as fuck.
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>>101450464
>Haruto: 686
I get the feeling this is L-elf's fault.
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>>101452642
I think there is a tweet from the official account where they asks the audience to submit possible names for future!Satomi, or stuff like that. However, it heavily implied it was not Satomi.
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>>101448215
・・・これより国際法に則り
モジュール77の居住者を特定危険生物7号とする!
In accordance with international law,
I hereby designate the inhabitants of Module 77 as Class 7 Special Hazard Organisms!

待ってお願い!
話を聞いて!!
Please hold on!
Listen to what we have to say first!

そうです!
こんなの何か間違いなんです!
She's right!
This is some misunderstanding!
だから俺達の話をー
I beg of you. Listen to---

きっ・・・
No...
きゃああぁあぁあ!!!
NOOOOOOO!!!

奴らは人ではない
故に慈悲など無用!
They are no humans!
Don't waste your compassion on them!
一人も逃すな!!
Do not leave any of them alive!
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>>101452095
Buddy complex chapter 1 https://www.mediafire.com/?b2ewee59de7ei13

It's just the episode 1 and will probably follow the anime so not really need for translations.

Also, I don't like the art much.
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>>101451401
>she didn't become the pilot
I think you skipped the epilogue.
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>>101452642
Why?
We know that Satomi is married and has probably descendants and Renbo did not act like an old Satomi.
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>>101452698
Me neither, though it doesn't look that bad once anuimated.

I do like the storyline though. The lack of retarded twists and brain damaged characters is soothing after the vulvarape.
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>>101448258
やめてぇええええ!!!
STOP!
ダメだショーコ!!
No, Shoko. You shouldn't!

あれはー!!
That's the---!
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>>101448289
6号機!!!
Unit 6!

ショーコちゃん!
Now's your chance,
今のうち!
Shoko-chan!

行こう!
早く!
Come on!
Let's go!

うん
O-
Okay...
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>>101452714
I think you skipped reading comprehension in school.
I asked if she became a pilot after the show, pre-200 year time skip.
She didn't become a pilot in episode 22.
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>>101452751
I meant the art of the manga. The anime looks fine to me.
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>>101448329
彼女は、世界に囚われたー
And the whole world turned against her...
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>>101452604
Season 2, Volume 2.
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>>101448393
ピーッ
*BEEP*

はっ
Haa
はっ
Haa

肺活量などは平均的なそれでしかないようだ
Her lung capacity appears to be normal.
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>>101448432
もう少し続けてもよかったのでは?
Maybe we should we conduct a little more testing?
不死身とはいえどこまで大丈夫のか明確に判明していない
過度の実験は禁物だ
Even if we consider that she is indeed immortal, we don't know to what extent that it would still be fine for her.
Which is why we shouldn't be pushing the limits.

切断した部位の再生はどうだ?
How about cutting her open again?
再接着からの創傷治癒は確認できた
We already know that she can regenerate from her wounds.

では致死量の失血は?
Should we try letting her bleed profusely?
そちらはまた後日詳しく調べよう
Let's look closer into that after a few days.

トキシマレポートによれば何をしても死なないというわけでは無いようだ
And according to the Tokishima Report, it isn't conclusive whether or not these organisms won't die no matter what we do to them.
ああ
処置には細心の注意をはらえ
True.
All the better for us to be careful with this subject.
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>>101452606
>already translating
Based sazy. What would we do without you?
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>>101448469
それでは本日の実験を再開する
Resume today's experiment.

噛みつかれるのには注意しろとの事だ
Colonel Cain has ordered us
なんでもカイン大差直々のお達しらしい
that we shouldn't let her bite us no matter what.
  フム・・・
あとで体内抗体を調べるか
  Oh
Looks like we need to find some of antibody from here.

うぐっ・・・!
Ugh!
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>>101452905
>How about cutting her open again?
>again
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>>101448500
これより記録No.0019
被検体SRの調査解剖を始める
Entry No. 0019
We are now about to perform dissection on the sample.

んーっ!
っ・・・っ!!
Mmm!
Mmmmm!

暴れるようなら麻酔を注入しろ
If you don't stop resisting, we'll be inject you an anaesthesia.
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>>101448533
・・・特務大尉
困りますよ
This is troubling,
Captain.
大事に検査中に・・・
We're in the middle of a test here and---

検査だと?
Test, you say?
私には拷問にしか見えんがな
But all I can see is you torturing someone!

捕虜への不当な扱いは国際法で禁じられている!
International law prohibits such treatment towards a prisoner of war!
しかし
この被検体はすでに人間ではなくー
But
we're conducting this experiment on a---

ひっ・・・!
Eek!
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>>101452543
>>101452698
Thanks for the zips. I gave the BC chapter a quick look and it adds things not present in the episode like the Saki manga does. I don't like the art much either though.
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>>101448565
だとしても!
Even so,
誇りあるドルシア軍人が行う所業ではない!!
this isn't an act that the proud Dorssia Forces will conduct!
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>>101452953
Cain did it the first time, but yeah, it sounds very odd.
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>>101448599
ん・・・
Mmn...

気がついたか?
Are you awake?

これで二度目だな
同じ事を尋ねたは
This makes it the second time
that I asked you that.

・・・あなたに助けられたのもね
Also, the second time you saved me, right?
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>>101448154
>valvrave the liberatir
Read that as "Vulvarage the vibrator" while scrolling quickly.

That is all.
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>>101448619
勘違いするなよ
私は私の矜持に従ったまでだ
Don't get the wrong idea.
I'm just following what my pride dictates me to do.
別に貴様を助けたわけではない
It doesn't necessarily mean that I have to help you.

まったく・・・
Geez,
とんだツンデレね・・・
what a tsundere.

ツン・・・
デ・・・?
Tsun,
what?
  ううん
なんでもないわ
  No
Don't mind me.

・・・辛くないのか?
Does it not hurt?

辛くない
・・・わけじゃない
Of course,
it hurts.

“実験”は死ぬほど痛いし・・・
The pain these "experiments" can really kill someone.
まあ死なないけど
Although I won't die from it.
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>>101452960
>If you don't stop resisting, we'll be inject you an anaesthesia.
Jesus, fuck off, at least show some kind of kindness...
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>>101453101
>saki calling a-drei tsundere

What?
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>>101453101
>Blitz-tsundere-degen!
I won't be able to unread that, damn you.
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>>101448636
捕虜に対しあのような処遇が許されるわけはない
This treatment to a prisoner shouldn't be tolerated.
・・・だが
カイン大差はそれを黙認していた
But,
Colonel Cain's turning a blind eye.

カイン・・・
あの男・・・
Cain.
That man.

だとすれば
貴様はまた実験室の住人になる可能性が高い
That said,
it's very likely that you'll be living in that laboratory.

・・・でも生きていればチャンスはあるわ
But, I still have a chance to live.
・・・私は必ず私達の国に帰る
I will go back to our country no matter what.

・・・その国がもういないとしたら?
And what if that country of yours is no more?

えっ!?
What!?!
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>>101453092
VALVRAPE THE PENETRATOR
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>>101453101

Calling the Saki manga will have A-dreixSaki ship-teasing ending for the fans like the A-drei manga had L-Elf and A-drei teasing ending.
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>>101453101
>Geez,
>what a tsundere.

Best girl, now and forever!
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>>101448667
モジュール77の住人は全てバケモノ・・・
All inhabitants of Module 77 have been labeled as monsters.
貴様がその証人となり
全世界はすべてに貴様ら敵視している
And, as you can see,
the whole world can only think of all of you as a threat.
ヴァルヴレイヴやあの女総理も
行くアテもないままモジュールから逃げ出したとのことだ
The Valvraves. That prime minister.
All of them are running away from the module with nowhere to go.

ハルト・・・
Haruto...
ショーコさん・・・
Shoko-san...

・・・未来もなく永劫その苦しむは続くくらいなら
いっそ潔く死を選べ
If an eternity with a future nothing but ongoing pain awaits you,
you better choose a glorius death.

言ったじゃない
死なないってー
Didn't you tell me
not to die---
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>>101448690
喉奥まで差し入れ上下の歯でしっかり固定しろ
そうすれば銃弾が貴様の脳髄を後ろの壁にぶちまける
If I placed this gun right inside you and shoot you,
the bullet will blow your brains right through the wall.
どんなに治癒能力が高かろうとそれなら死ねるだろう
It will kill you regardless of the regenative abilities you possess, won't it?

せめても情けだ
This is the least I can do.
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>>101453170
We have still two scenes with Haruto and Saki, unless they plan to ignore them - which wouldn't surprise me TBH -.
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>>101453170
One can hope.
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>>101448717
・・・おほほありお
Wai wewyuse.

・・・何?
What did you say?

お断りよ!
I refuse!
どんな困難があっても
たとえ見返りのない未来だったとしても
私は諦めない!
No matter what hardships I face
or even if I don't have any assurance of what the future will hold for me,
I will never give up!
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>>101453186
I think in the last panel she was saying she won't die no matter what he does.
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>>101453177
>>101453170

Incoming threesome in the last CD drama.
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>>101453231
Sadly, they won't ignore them.
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>>101448746
私はもう
I will not let

>>101453251
Yeah, you're probably right.
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>>101448776
世界に殺されない!
the world to kill me!

それにあなたも言ったでしょ
どんあことをしても生き延びるのが一番大事だって
You said it yourself.
The most important thing is to keep on living.
・・・・・・!
!

・・・そうか
I see...
君の意思は・・
That resolve of yours...
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>>101453279
... well, actually it is not sadly, but fortunately for me.
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>>101448803
今の音はー!?
What was that noise just now?

大意ー
Captain.
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>>101448824
大意
何をー
What are
you---

  おや
それは被検体SR!
  Oh
Isn't that the sample?
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>>101448843
実験再開の申請をしてまだ間もないが・・・
I know I requested for the resumption of the experiment but there isn't a room ready yet.
なんでもいい
取り急ぎラボに運んでくれ
It doesn't matter.
Just bring that thing to the laboratory.

・・・了解しました
Understood.
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>>101450357
Well, yeah. You can pretty much write off every character's problems as "the staff never cared of them". Haruto and Shoko especially. For supposedly being the protagonist and main heroine they sure didn't feel like it.
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>>101448902
みんな
Hang in there,
待ってて・・・!
everyone!

仲間のもとへー!
Going to where her friends are!

次号につづく
To be continued next issue
4月号2月27日(木)発売!!
April Issue - To be sold on Feb 27 (Thu)!
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>>101453272
I'm okay with that.
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>>101453424

They are just dull.
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>>101453424
>You can pretty much write off every character's problems as "the staff never cared of them".
Nope, you can certainly say it for Haruto (and Shoko), just look at his meeting with his father, it hurt for the QUALITY, they clearly gave shit of it. Meanwhile Saki, A-Drei, L-Elf etc. got some good treatment.
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>>101450151
It's his punishment for having shit taste.
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>>101453324
Your taste is shit, but I respect it.

Harutoxsaki is the one ship I can't tolerate.
>Haruto getting rewarded with Saki's love for no good reason
>rapes her
>Never really cared about her that much because muh Shoko
>Wasn't a very worthy husbando to begin with
>now she's bound to mourn him for eternity because 2D girls are never allowed to move because it would make purityfags buttmad.
>That whole romanceshit was completelly barren plotwise, and didn't even serve for character development

Really it does rub me the wrong way.
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>>101453272

Please do it, Okouchi.
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>still using jacking ability
>using Doc's data and research
Based manga.

>>101453457
Thanks a lot for your work.

Selfish question: will you work/summarize the drama CD with BD06 when it comes out?
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>>101453457
Thanks as always.
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>>101453457
Thank you for the hard work based Sazy.
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>>101453498
Haruto was pretty dull, but I thought the direction they went with Shoko could have been interesting. Too bad they forgot to develop it and the actual execution was so horrid it ruined her entire character and their fanbase.
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>>101453513
>HarutoxSaki is the one ship I can't tolerate.
It looked like it could have gone somewhere in season 1, but then they had Saki get captured and ignored for the rest of the show.
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>>101453513
I think you are a bit biased.
He cared of her from the beginning, not only he was willing to help her, but he also called her a friend (and saved her different times).

>>Wasn't a very worthy husbando to begin with

When he was inside the robot and fought to save/help her and the students, he was worthy. It surely isn't a fabulous husbando like Nobunaga, but he is not even a piece of shit.
He is just a bit retarded, that is.
I think Saki's motherly instinct was at work when she fell for him.
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>>101453620
They stopped caring for PM Shoko after episode 15.
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>>101453135
That was like an official joke. Granted, it's "Blitz-tsundere-gen!" but still.

>>101453547
Depending on my time and schedule.
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>>101453513
>>That whole romanceshit was completelly barren plotwise, and didn't even serve for character development

You could say the same for almost every character interaction though.
The drama between L-Elf and A-Drei, the romance between Lieselotte and L-Elf, X-Eins and Cain marriage, Nanami and Kibukawa ship-teasing .
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>>101453735
Ah, I see. I didn't get around to watch the Summit yet.
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>>101453811
>X-eins and Cain marriage
Huh.
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>>101453105
>adults
>kindness

Not in Valvrave.
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>>101453967
Good point. Saki was right from the beginning.
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>>101454458
Saki was always right.
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>>101453944

Cain truly broke his heart. ;_;
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>>101456501
X-Eins was a bitch and was cheating on him, he deserved more suffering.
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>>101456561

And Cain wasn't? MUH Masterpiece! MUH Mirko! MUH Space Gay Fairy!
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>>101456605
Cain is old and can do it, his rank allows him it.
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>>101453664
It was never going to go anywhere. She named her rave Carmilla, the vampire who can never be with those she loves.
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>>101456654
Didn't Carmilla die at the end of her tale?
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>>101453499
Definitely feels like they based their priorities off of the poll at the end of season 1.
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>>101456862
How? Shoko was 3rd.
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>>101456926
They can't count to 3.

That's why sunrise shows only have 2 seasons.
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>>101456862
>Definitely feels like they based their priorities off of the poll at the end of season 1.

if that were the case, Sunrise would have dumped Haruto and made L-elf, A-drei, and the girls far more important main characters

seriously, they clearly failed on who to give importance to
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>>101456967
If that were true they would only care about L-elf and Saki since they were 1st and 2nd. That poll was a ruse.
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>>101457010
They also wouldn't have had Saki get captured and pretty much do nothing for the second half of the season.
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>>101456926
She also won first place in the 'shitty boss' poll. It really feels like they changed her character to match up with that.
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>>101457167
>Implying Shoko was not a questionable boss
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>>101457131
>and pretty much do nothing for the second half of the season.
Like everyone else who wasn't H-Neun or L-Elf?
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>>101457269
Your implication detector is off.

In S1 she at least had an idea of what she was doing, could keep the students controlled, and even when she failed didn't immediately throw in the towel and stop trying. In S2 she was the one being controlled, did nothing to help or correct it, and just gave up after she realized she made a mistake. It's like she's a completely different character.
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>>101457668
Gross.
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>>101457668
Makes no sense.
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>>101457643
>had an idea of what she was doing

Neither her whole "independent county" notion nor the decision to become the PM of her module were thought-out.

>could keep the students controlled

By giving them what they wanted.
Of course, it did not work out every time.

>when she failed didn't immediately throw in the towel and stop trying

Neither did S2 Shoko till the last two episodes.
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>>101458160
Implying she tried to do anything til them.
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>>101458194
Doesn't trying to reach a cease-fire, helping the wounded and getting into the Valvrave not count?
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>>101458366
She just went along with those students, not anything herself.
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>>101458482
S1 Shoko was the same.
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>>101458619
She wasn't.
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>>101456561
>tfw even X-eins' internal struggle was more developed than Shoko's
Poor X-eins, his choice was pretty tough too. He would have to choose between the man who saved him (and to some extent trained him to be who he was) or his best friend.
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>>101458692
She at least had initiative is s1.
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>>101458800
Oh, come on, X-Eins' drama was a bit stupid, H-Neun noticed he changed and there something really wrong 10 years ago and he couldn't even suspect a bit of him. His whole drama was really pointless, especially dragging it for the entire season.
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>>101458692
Yes, she was.
Shoko is not strong enough to be leader who makes unpopular decisions and defends them, unless they are related to the person she trusts the most.
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>>101458953
At least we got to see him contemplating his decision on who to believe, rather than Shoko's MUH CAVE PROMISE which made her quickly go against Haruto. X-eins wasn't also the only one who didn't notice the changes; Amadeus, who was with him for years on end, didn't even notice either.
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>>101459095

I can forgive Amadeus, Cain was working in Karlstein and was then stationed in space for most of those 10 years. They probably rarely interacted. Even with X-Eins after being saved by Cain he didn't see him again until 2 years later, he never really knew the guy well.
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>>101459095
Yeah, not giving Haruto a chance to explain what had happened was the dumbest thing anyone did in the entire series including JINGU BERUS.
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>>101459095
I wasn't arguing about Shoko, but about it being a "tough choice". I mean, it surely was for him - but well, actually, H-Neun was covering X-Eins' ass at the Karlstein and at war, not Cain, so the choice was quite simple... but whatever -, but it was also drama which amounted to nothing for both X-Eins and Cain.

Amadeus was surely stupid, but I think Cain was his right hand, but not a, let's say, close person for him.
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>>101459184
She gave a man you just came back to life and was probably disoriented and clearly distressed about not being able to remember it two seconds to give her a straight answer, that was plenty time.
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>>101459184
Except she did give him a chance, multiple in fact. Haruto just refused and either gave her the silent treatment or misleading apologies.
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>>101459159
Exactly, so X-eins can't exactly be blamed for not being able to notice the difference specially when he was only 9 when he saw him again (even if H-neun did notice something off), and after that was shipped off to some cave.

>>101459184
JINGU BERUS
That was the best part of that episode.

>>101459233
I mentioned Shoko from the beginning, which is why I brought her up again.
>H-Neun was covering X-Eins' ass at the Karlstein and at war, not Cain
That's like saying L-elf carried A-drei through Karlstein because we saw them helping out the "weaker" partner one time. We don't know everything that happened during those days.

I do agree that their drama amounted to nothing since the three of them ended up dying, but at least we saw that he ended up choosing his friend over the man who saved them.
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>>101459397
>and after that was shipped off to some cave.

But even A-Drei said something was really wrong with Dorssia, and L-Elf, when he talked with Shoko, used words that looked right for the old Dorssia, not the new one.
X-Eins was the only one who didn't notice anything (well, maybe Q-Vier too, but it was more tanoshii to play at the Karlstein). It sounds a bit stupid for someone who is supposed to be smart.

> We don't know everything that happened during those days.

We saw them fighting in a chapter of the manga. I wasn't implying X-Eins was weak and H-Neun strong, just that they were together on the battlefield, and Cain surely wasn't there to save them.
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>>101459233
>>101459582
>It sounds a bit stupid for someone who is supposed to be smart
X-ein's feelings toward Cain have been described as "admiration close to worship" in articles. He saw Cain as his savior and had been too blinded by that admiration to hold any doubts toward him until he discovered proof that revealed Cain had wrongfully killed H-neun.
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>>101459582
>X-Eins was the only one who didn't notice anything

He wanted to be an ideal soldier like his idol, not change the system.
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>>101459582
>It sounds a bit stupid for someone who is supposed to be smart.
I can't say much to this since we never got to see or hear his thoughts on Dorssia's political system or anything of the sort, so it's really hard to know if he supported it or was against it.

>Cain surely wasn't there to save them.
Yeah, but it was the act of saving them when they were seven years old that left an impression on him. If Cain hadn't shown up they would have died, which means he wouldn't have gotten the chance to enter the battlefield.
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>>101459755
>>101459765
But Cain saved them and 2 years later said clearly they were going to a death camp. He could worship Cain for saving them and want to be an ideal soldier, but not noticing that huge contradiction is something I would expect from a really really really really dense person.
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>>101459939
Love made him blind.
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>>101459939
He probably thought it was going to make them tougher or something like that. He's a person who cries during animal movies, don't expect him to be more than just book smart.
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>>101459095
I don't understand why people act like the cave promise was the only thing that set her off. Her doubting him was spread out through the entire episode from the second he failed to explain the Phantom. She was desperately clinging to her trust in him even after the fact, but then he shattered that trust on top of his incompetence with words making it look as though he was confirming all of Dorssia's claims.

I mean yes the drama was pretty bad and poorly handled, but it did make more sense than people give it credit for.
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>>101460116
More people are mad at the fact that it took just some random cave promise to set her off. Like you said, she trusted him the entire time, yet because he didn't remember one thing she turned her back on him.
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>>101460211
The cave promise was the last straw. People have killed for lesser last straws.
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>>101460297
It just feels weak drama for the sake of drama, just like the rape.
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>>101459939
>said clearly they were going to a death camp
But he didn't "clearly" say that. They had already been at Karlstein for two years. Then Cain came back, becoming their instructor and saying that their training regiment would be completely altered in order for them to become ideal soldiers. He did in fact say that the weak wouldn't be shown mercy but you forget that X-eins blindly worshiped Cain and was told this new strictness was for the sake of becoming a better soldier, which was his goal.
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>>101460389
The rape was handled well, I don't know why people keep complaining about it. Were anyone really expecting a whole season about it, abortion or stuff like that?
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>>101460583
It felt like it was just swept under the rug.
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>>101460583
Remember when people were saying that Saki would have Haruto's child and that that child would become a pilot? They were expecting that, so it was just shipperfags thinking that their relationship was going to go well because of that.
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>>101460461
> He did in fact say that the weak wouldn't be shown mercy

You are proving my point. OldCain saved two weak children who tried to fight and almost got killed. Something was clearly off if NewCain's motto is "death to the weaklings".
I understand X-Eins worshiped Cain for his strength, but then again, sounds stupid to not noticing something like that because blind, being so easily deceived is not a good thing for a soldier, it is a sign of poor attention to details.
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>>101460664
Just like L-Elf killing Marie or Shoko selling out Haruto. Drama in Valvrave is done purely for shock value and dropped once it's served its purpose.
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>>101460869
Just like in real life. Shocking, I know.
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>>101460761
>You are proving my point.
You are ignoring the rest of my post, as well as this >>101459747
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>>101460664
We got episode 11 that was half about Haruto and Saki dealing with it together. Episode 13 again had a big part about them taking decision thinking about the what happened and could happen in the future (two times for Haruto).
Episode 22 again had Haruto thinking again about it.
I don't know, what could they do? Spending more episodes on the stress caused by the event? I don't think it was something that would have fit. Honestly, it was treated like a pretty big and important event, compare it for example with Shoko's father death, F-6' death, L-Elf killing Marie or something else, the rape wasn't really swept under the rug.

I agree the whole seizure stuff was a bit ridiculous and written stupidly, but, well, the rape wasn't really more forced than tons of other situations and it rightly got more attention. I would be more disappointed by the way they treated L-Elf killing Marie or Shoko's father death, that was sweeping something under the rug for plot convenience.
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>>101461170
Its treated as "that event with Saki" rather than rape. It it was just a physical attack, that would still have the same effect on the story.
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>>101461484
Another physical attack wouldn't have "worked" because Haruto had already almost 10 of them, another physical attack would have been "that event with Saki" whit low relevance on him.
And it is not just "that event with Saki", it is an event when he goes out of control and someone gets really hurt because he knows nothing about himself, and in fact he remembers Saki's face every time, but not Inuzuka's or L-Elf's face when he attacked them.
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>>101461170
>the way they treated L-Elf killing Marie
They were busy dealing with Marie not staying dead when killed, then the cave in and the escape, and then with the revelation that Hito killed Marie (and she stayed dead) after eating all her memories and that it would do the same with Haruto. After all the shit that happened, why would they go back and dwell on L-elf shooting Marie when it wasn't even what killed her?
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>>101461651
By physical attack I mean cutting and slashing her, or brutally injuring her. She would be fine and regenerate but Haruto would still be bad about it,
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>>101461719
It's weird that Haruto later claimed that he admires the guy who killed his classmate.

>when it wasn't even what killed her?

L-Elf killed her, but she did not die for good.
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>>101461719
Because it pissed Haruto off and L-Elf could do the same thing to someone closer to Haruto, like Shoko, Saki, Inuzuka etc.

>>101461755
Saki would have been "fine" and hide it, just like what happened in this chapter of her manga. A-Drei had to question is it hurts being tortured, and A-Drei is not as dense as Haruto, torture hurts way more than a single physical attack.
The attack wouldn't have left a scar on her and Haruto, evident or not, the rape left one non evident scar on both.
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>>101462012
>like Shoko, Saki, Inuzuka etc.
>Implying L-elf would waste his bullets on confirmed bakemono
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>>101462125
Gun-kun is useless, knife-kun would do the trick.
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>>101448393
>>101448432
>>101448469
Dang....
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>>101462194
Knife-kun can't do anything either. Look at what happened with Amadeus. L-elf should get tips on how to ARUS them.
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>>101462009
>L-Elf killed her, but she did not die for good.
In this case I meant "killed" as in "staying dead". I judged that it didn't need to be explicitly specified a third time in the same post.
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>>101448690
Dont bully Saki!
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>>101462289
Chop their heads off, put them in a bag and throw them away.
With knife-kun you can.
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>>101448776
>>101453316
Glad somebody remembered that line, even if the anime staff forgot it.
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>>101461719

It was really weird for Haruto to think of L-Elf as a friend when he had no problem putting a bullet in Marie's dome. Haruto just seemed to forget that scene for the sake of the plot.
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>>101462377
He never got to test to see if that worked. OVA when?
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>>101462009
He knows L-elf is right deep down and does what needs to be done regardless of the consequences. That's why he admires him in the first place.
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>>101462407
Their friendship was pretty unconvincing either way.
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Would you be her boyfriend, /a/?
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>>101462518
>He knows L-elf is right deep down

Yeah, sure, not killing Q-Vier ASAP but killing a close friend of your butt-buddy who is helping you (/you are using for you plans) are certainly right things.
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>>101462617
No.
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>>101462617
She wouldn't remember me, so no, I wouldn't.
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>>101462659
Marie was hindering their mission, he did what Haruto couldn't (get rid of her).
Showing compassion to his former buddies would only serve to rise Haruto's boner for him as well.
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>>101462733
Q-Vier was endangering his mission, his loved girl and the lives of his new comrades. He was way more dangerous than Marie.
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>>101462826
I don't see how that affects Haruto's feelings for him. He didn't even know who Q-vier was.
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>>101462826
Fuck you. Q-Vier did nothing wrong.
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>>101462617
I can't date a potato.
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>>101462889
He didn't know Q-Vier, but IF (a big if) he knew what do you think he would think of L-Elf?
And Haruto actually saw this side of him when he said there was no need to kill H-Neun.
I have no problems with L-Elf sparing the lives of his former comrades, but killing Marie was unneeded and could (ans should) have broken their so called friendship.
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>>101462617
Too pure for love.
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>>101462659
Killing Queer would have been more efficient but L-elf has been shown to spare the lives of Hitler Youth, and judging by his simulations he didn't think killing him was necessary. L-elf was raised to believe killing is how you solve problems and so killing Marie was the most efficient solution in his mind. L-elf felt attachment toward Queer, the same couldn't be said about Marie.

>>101463062
L-elf was already shown to have been willing to do similar to Shoko if he deemed it necessary, and that would cause even more damage to his contract with Haruto.
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>>101463430
Haruto did not know that L-Elf almost shot Shoko.
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>>101463062
>if he knew what do you think he would think of L-Elf?
He would like him even more for being a dumb softie.
I repeat, L-elf did what Haruto couldn't: try to get rid of her instead of indulging her curiosity and further endangering everyone. He didn't care about L-elf killing him, using him as a meatshield or baiting Thunder and Jewbro to become pilots a couple of days after it happened. Haruto calms down when he thinks the situation through and realizes that, even if they're not the best methods and go against his morals, L-elf always does what's best to ensure life loss. He knows he's willing to kill one if it that means more will survive.
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>>101463818
>L-elf always does what's best to ensure life loss
Freudian slip aside, I meant "to avoid life loss".
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>>101463818
Marie did not endanger anyone, Haruto did.

>He didn't care about L-elf killing him

Of course, he did.
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>>101463806
That much was obvious. My point is that L-elf is willing to take actions that would damage his contract with Haruto if he believes it to be necessary.
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>>101463818
There were plenty of ways L-Elf could have handled Marie without putting a bullet in her head. Not sure why you think he's some kind of dark hero when the show made it clear he never cared for any of the students and only put in (minimal) effort to keep them alive because it kept Haruto and the Valvraves under his thumb.
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>>101464538

He shot her purely for plot purposes, what he should have done was send Haruto off and then take care of her.
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>>101464506
He cared at first but he stopped caring later. It stopped being important when other things were at stake.

>>101464538
I'm not saying he's a dark hero and I never said he cared about them either. I said that
>he's willing to kill one if it that means more will survive
Because that means more military power and not because he cares about them.
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>>101464732
Haruto would ignore him like he always does until someone got killed.
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>>101464827
>He cared at first

You mean half of the first season.
He only allied with L-Elf because there wasn't a better option.

Killing someone from his own side should have alienated him from L-Elf.
Instead he chose to decrease L-Elf's suffering by not feeding from him anymore.
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>>101464538
But he cared of Saki.
I think L-Elf's characterization different times was used for plot purpose, because it makes no sense to try to kill Marie, leave Akira falling during the landing and then leave a Valvrave on Earth for Saki because she has skills. Those are inconsistent actions, and actually L-Elf saying Haruto is a "sentimental fool" is really bullshit, given how later he acts with Q-Vier (and even if L-Elf said he couldn't avoid her death, we all know leaving Q-Vier alive was a mistake).

>>101464827
>>he's willing to kill one if it that means more will survive

Only if that "one" is not directly related to him.
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>>101448154
just a question why did Haruto die/lose memory drom rune consumption didn't the feeding sessions supply him with runes to operate the valvrave ?
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>>101465426
Maybe Haruto talked him into leaving Saki's Valvrave behind. It did not endanger their mission and the team not as much as trying to save Akira.
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>>101465724
Because the RAVE engine consumed far more runes than he got via one injection.
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>>101465724
It's implied he stopped feeding after the investigation of the first Phantom they found. And in the final fight Cain also fucked up Hito's engine, which made him leak runes continuously.
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>>101465726
Oh, well, I really don't know, both were really hard situations. I just find a huge difference in the way he dealt with Saki's and Akira's situations and one of the two is a bit out of character (or at least forced for plot purposes).
True that Saki could betray them if she fell abandoned by her team, though.
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>>101465426
The ones he's not attached to but still contribute to his cause earn his concern and respect. The ones he's not attached to and are obstacles to his cause earn bullets and stab wounds.
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>>101465997
But Akira saved his ass from a laser ;_;
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>>101465960
Saving Akira meant all of them dying at first and that's why he refused. He had no problems with it when he realized there was a chance of survival.
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>>101465960
There was not a huge difference.
In both cases, he was willing to leave a Valvrave and its pilot behind.
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>>101466220
One he was trying to help, the other he was planning to let die. The difference is night and day.
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>>101466425
He would die if he tried to help one, the other didn't. Why is this hard to understand?
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>>101466830
Cause he's dead now, right?
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>>101466940
He would be if they tried to save Akira without Satomi's last minute plan that L-elf didn't have.
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Speaking of saving Akira, why the hell didn't she whack that Ideal with her stick instead of destroying it? That way she could have captured another heat shield for them to use.
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>>101467028
L-Elf didn't even start th8inking about a plan, though. He was not even willing to try to help Akira in that situation.

>>101467405
I think it was because the Ideal would have shot to her.
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>>101467405
They forgot her more interesting combat hacking in favour of the beam claws.
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>>101467722
>having the Ideal self destruct instead of bringing it back to the module for L-Elf to use

Akira you are a terrible hacker.
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>>101467804
That was a good decision on her part. The one time they did bring an enemy unit back with them it nearly got them all killed.
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>>101467592
>L-Elf didn't even start th8inking about a plan, though. He was not even willing to try to help Akira in that situation.
How do you know? We have no idea what he was thinking. And if he was so against it as you insist he wouldn't even bother risking his life for a plan that might work. Don't try to play the "he only saved them because Haruto was there" card either because when L-elf refused Haruto was already with her. Only after Akira hacks the control stations and Satomi ensures he can understand them L-elf approves of the idea.
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>>101465726
If that were the case, then that would mean Haruto also made him write her the letter or at the very least knew the contents of the letter, which is doubtful since he went against the orders of said letter. You know, capturing the Phantom rather than destroying it.
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>>101468004
I don't understand your post, that is actually what I am saying. He didn't want to help them, period. He was ready to lose two pilots and two Valvraves (actually all the Valvraves, since he knew how much Hito was important).
In Saki's situation he came up with a plan, but we haven't seen people asking him for help on that and he even says Saki is important for the team, when he can easily replace her with another student. And his plan was plenty of risks since he knew she was with A-Drei and leaving a Valvrave on Earth means to risk to let your enemy know everything about your weapons.
That is completely different from the way he acted before with Akira.
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>>101467804
>L-elf gets an Ideal
>each space battle is A-drei chasing him around the battlefield, screeching at the top of his lungs
>Q-vier gets screeched at every time he tries to fight L-elf himself
>L-elf ignores everything and gets shit done
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>>101468248
Haruto and the others changed their minds after they learned about the number of produced Phantoms.

>>101468386
>when he can easily replace her with another student

He does not want to replace his Valvrave pilots which makes sense because new pilots lack experience.

>he knew she was with A-Drei

He did not know whether she was still with A-Drei.
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>>101468900
>He does not want to replace his Valvrave pilots which makes sense because new pilots lack experience.
... but few days before he was ready to lose all six machine? Naaaaah, it doesn't really make sense, even because he proposed turns for piloting Hito.

>He did not know whether she was still with A-Drei.

IIRC K-wolf was able to find the ship thanks to A-Drei and Cain, not by himself, because he couldn't know where L-Elf left it (maybe I remember wrong this point though).
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>>101467924
Only because L-Elf was too depressed to drive the Phantom.
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>>101469095
>... but few days before he was ready to lose all six machine?

???

>proposed turns for piloting Hito

Haruto rejected it and remained Hito's sole pilot despite causing trouble in previous episodes because L-Elf did not really want to replace him with someone else.
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>>101469389
>???

Akira's situation, as you said, he was not willing to help until Satomi shows he can secure a path. Which means before that he was ready to lose Akira and Haruto + the other Valvraves because without Hito they can't move.

> because L-Elf did not really want to replace him with someone else.

Haruto was with him, he was not with the most dangerous enemy, though.
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>>101468386
For the last time, saving Saki didn't pose a threat to his life. The plan was risky because Saki could get caught and they'd lose a robot. Period. He wouldn't die if the plan failed, it was her own problem. Saki saved his life, was an asset and trying to save her would not endanger him. He had faith she would not screw it up or maybe had a backup plan in case she was caught. Maybe a royalist would pay a visit and help her out or something. But the thing is, trying to save her would not get him killed.
Saving Akira and Haruto would get him killed. Then Akira and Satomi came up with a plan that could save them without getting him killed.
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>>101470938
The risk of giving Cain a Valvrave with a pilot wouldn't totally have put his life at risk.
And as I said, letting Akira and haruto go would have put him in life danger, because without Valvraves he can't fight Cain or even Dorssia.
The risks were really high in both situations, but he dealt with them in totally different ways just for plot convenience.
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>>101469519
L-elf had a plan to change Dorssia without the Valvraves. They don't mean more to him than his own life.

L-elf's mind during Akira and Haruto rescue was:
- Save two robots
- Lose life
- Lieselotte not saved
Versus:
- Lose robots
- Keep life
- Take more time but free Lieselotte
But then Akira and Satomi changed the first one to:
- Save two robots
- Might keep life
- Might keep robots
- Might free Lieselotte in less time
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>>101471186
>L-elf had a plan to change Dorssia without the Valvraves.

Before defecting and having Cain as enemy. Big plan now that he can't come back to Dorssia.
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>>101471149
>The risk of giving Cain a Valvrave with a pilot wouldn't totally have put his life at risk.
Yes, you understand it perfectly. Only modified students can pilot them and Saki, as the most loyal one, would never pilot it for them. The worse they could do is reverse engineer it, something they already did when they captured VVV 2.
His original plan didn't have the Valvraves and...

>>101471275
...by the way he hated Cain it didn't include playing along with him either. He'd figure something out like he always does.
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>>101471399
Never said she would have pilot it for them, but the scientist could reverse engineer her (which is actually what they tried to do) and have an army of people like Haruto and the students. That is a high risk for his life, not immediate, not direct as crashing on land, but it still is, and someone like him who plans and acts for ten years thinking about a future revolution is reckless and out of character, especially when he had literally no connection with that pilot.

>...by the way he hated Cain it didn't include playing along with him either.

Doesn't mean he can betray him and come back like nothing has happened.
If he was planning to get rid of Cain, he surely wasn't planning to do before having the means and some security for Lieselotte, which would happen only in the last stages of his plans. And without the Valvraves he is back to square one, probably behind schedule too.
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>>101448393
That's not how you test lung capacity!
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>>101473372
WHY?
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I wonder if we'll ever seen an official english release of Saki's manga.

I'd totally buy it.
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>>101473937
It makes no sense reading it without watching the anime first, though.
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>>101457010
>L-elf, A-drei, and the girls

Wouldn't that be Code Geass II: The Raving?
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>>101473445
Shut up, little fool.
This is your home for the rest of your life.
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>>101461719

Because then ask why was Haruto abandoning everyone to get a chat with Marie when they clearly needed his help?

There was no point to bring up Marie when he fucked up.
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>>101473445
Shoko x L-Elf forever
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>>101474780
Dat delusion.
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>>101474823
Anon pls
Shoko x L-Elf is canon
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>>101474823
It amazes me how people ever thought that could work out. There was nothing to that pairing.
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>>101474877
Prove it.
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>>101474823
Denial is not healthy.
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>>101474953
See >>101473445
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>>101474877
In your fanfiction, sure.

>>101474893
>There was nothing to that pairing.

There was the Shoko-jelly and a bullet in the head, the last is forever, like a diamond.
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>>101474893
Made more sense than Haruto x Saki at least. Which isn't saying much.
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>>101475000
Its not Shoko's kid, if it was they would have said something.
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>>101475084
Nah, Saki x Haruto was way better, at least none of the two tried to kill the other.
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>>101475109
Anon, just ignore him. He's always trying to start that shit.
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>>101475109
What is descendant
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>>101475109
Of course it's not her kid. Possibly a descendent though. The writers copped out and left it ambiguous so it can be anything you wish and the cause of arguments forever.
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>>101475084
At least with Haruto and Saki you have Saki liking Haruto. There is nothing like that between Shoko and L-Elf. Shoko was never shown feeling for L-Elf as anything more than a new friend. L-Elf never saw Shoko as anything more than at first a reason to keep Haruto happy and second a tool to keep his country for Lisorette safe.
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>>101475109
>if it was they would have said something
>VVV staff
>explaining anything
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>>101475140
The main pairing is of the S&M nature, though.
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>>101475270
They confirmed that is was Satomi's descendant.
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>>101475490
Source? And by source I mean a quote backed with a scan, snapshot or time frame.
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>>101475560
https://twitter.com/valvrave/status/423067442596683776
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>>101475814
That's not about the prince.
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>>101475990
We are talking about Satomi's descendant, not the prince.
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>>101475990
Not him, but he was proving wrong the
>>VVV staff
>>explaining anything
I think.
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>>101476097
We were talking about the prince being Shoko's descendant.
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>>101476101
It still proves nothing.
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>>101475560

【VVVラジオ第30回コーナー③】「はじめまして僕 連坊小路○◎です」未来のシーンに登場した連坊小路 の子孫と思われるサトミそっくりの少年、あの子の名前は一体…?皆さんで彼の名前を考えて送ってきて下さい 。名付け理由もお待ちしています。キラキラしたネームも大歓迎

upcoming VVV radio wants the listeners to submit a name for the renboukouji's descendant that looks like a Satomi. Also give the reason for naming him like that.
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>>101476552
>>101476173
>>101475109
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I think it was originally meant to be a L-Elf and Shoko's descendant because the producer initially wanted an L-Elf, Shoko, Haruto love triangle.

But they probably torched that idea along with the love triangle because of time constraints

With Okouchi being evasive about this, I'm thinking that it really is Shoko's descendant, but he doesn't want to say it because it will make a lot of people upset.
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>>101477154
How much control does the producer have with the shows writing and direction?
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>>101477154
he's waiting for vol 6 sales to confirm it
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>>101477154
>producer initially wanted an L-Elf, Shoko, Haruto love triangle.
You can spread that rumor all you want and it's not going to come true.
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>>101477154
>the producer initially wanted an L-Elf, Shoko, Haruto love triangle
Source?
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Haruto who?
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>>101477154
That producer said many different things in different times. He liked Saki and thought L-elf was OK. He never cared about Haruto or Shoko. Now suddenly he likes Shoko a lot and wanted a triangle. He doesn't know anything about details of the series either. He was just a spectator like any other producer is. He says a lot of shit but can't do anything and has nothing to do with the final product. Did you notice he's the only producer that speaks? No one else does. He's the guy who has nothing to do but gossip to magazines, that's his role.
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>>101477154
Just like the same producer said they needed 2 cour to develop such a large cast and expand the story. Yeah...
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>>101477196
He sits at a table and listens to the writers ideas and the rest of the staff. He only nods and gives his opinion.
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>>101477154
>With Okouchi being evasive about this
Actually, now that I think about it, did they asked him whose that kid is or WHERE he is?
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>>101477196

I get the feeling that Okouchi only wrote Haruto and L-Elf, and all the other secondary characters might be the producer's / combined staff ideas
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>>101477357
>He liked Saki and thought L-elf was OK
IIRC back in spring (like near the beginning of the series/before airing) Ikeya mentioned he liked them the most or how they were the most interesting.
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>>101477196

In order of influence I'd say Sponsor >>> Director > Scriptwriter > everyone else

If the Producer is representing Aniplex, then I'd say he has some influence
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>>101477572

mission accomplished.. for the better or worse
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>>101477529
It was Okouchi and maybe the other writer together with Hoshino and the creative staff. Anyone but the producer. Many times during the audio commentary Ikeya kept saying how this and that were Okouchi's ideas. Like Carmilla, that name for the mecha was Okouchi's idea. The seiyuu had to explain who Carmilla was to Ikeya because he didn't know. Ikeya evaded some questions the seiyuu asked and sometimes guessed the answers because he didn't know the answers himself.
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>>101477679
Ikeya works for the Sunrise studio which animated Valvrave CG.
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>>101477679
The producer is one of three producers from Sunrsie's side. There are other two like him.
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>>101476552
Seriously? So they teased 'Satomi' being alive in the future only for it to be his descendent who coincidentally looks, sounds, and acts just like him? This pretty much confirms Akira, Saki, and Shoko are the only ones still alive in the future too and kills the pilot rotation theory.
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>>101477734
It's been a while since that time, so those might not have been his words, but the gist of it was that he preferred them. Okouchi liked L-elf and Haruto (I think it was mentioned in one of the BD interviews); I don't recall who Matsuo liked, but I think it might have been again either L-elf and/or Saki.
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>>101477837
>Shoko
>implying it's not her daughter
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>>101477498
He mentioned in a tweet the identity of the prince is left up to your imagination.
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>>101477879
>Okouchi liked L-elf and Haruto (I think it was mentioned in one of the BD interviews)
He said he found fun to write them IIRC, nothing more.
Someone said his favorite characters were Satomi and l-Elf and that it is said in the pamphlet from the Summit. Saw no scans of that, though.
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>>101477972
>He said he found fun to write them IIRC, nothing more.
Oh, okay. Thanks for the clarification.

>pamphlet from the Summit.
Pamphlet scans never ;_;
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>>101478077
Based Reinforce will deliver. Believe it.
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>>101477910
Unless Saki jacked Haruto's corpse and fucked her, Shoko will remain a virgin forever.
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>>101477918
>He mentioned in a tweet the identity of the prince is left up to your imagination.
Jesus, everything about the last 1/4 of the show was an absolute clusterfuck. Did they really think they were getting another season, or was this just bona fide incompetence?
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>>101478297
Seriously? Of all the things you could complain about? Do you really need it spelled out to you who the prince is?
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>>101478422
L-Elf's descendant with some random chick we never met.
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>>101478422
I don't mean that specifically, but why tease all of the 200 years in the future crap if you aren't going to do anything with it?
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>>101478486
>L-elf
>reproducing with anyone who's not Lieselotte or Haruto
Doubtful. It's obviously L-elf's cousin's descendant.
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>>101478493
So they don't have to write a proper epilogue if they can say 200 years later it all worked out.
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>>101478550
>or Haruto
Fujoshit pls.
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>>101478486
>L-Elf
>fucking a no-pure blood Magius

Yeah, no, the kid is not related to him.
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>>101478493
Sequel hook. At least, it's not forgotten like the first flash forward.
>FutureSaki fights against the Cow Empire
>Final episode epilogue narration hints that humans are still on a witch hunt for BAKEMONO
>Suddenly, a different set of aliens from the Magius and Pino/Plue
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>>101478493
The 200 year later shit served its purpose. It didn't need to be a full arc.
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>>101478615
Cool argument bro.
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>>101478692
>Implying they would ever make a sequel without L-elf
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>>101478486
We met Shoko though.
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>>101478736
They enjoy losing money so they would try if they could.
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>>101478853
>implying Shoko would love anything other than Haruto.
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>>101478877
The staff has brain problems, but they wouldn't go full retard. Probably.
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>>101478853
We also met Haruto and Lieselotte.
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>>101478667
But Lieselotte wanted him to move on so he will. And L-elf is too loyal to fuck his tomodachi's woman (Shoko or Saki). Random chick that has blue eyes. Or Iori, she understands coexisting after a romp with L-elf.
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>>101478910
No one said anything about love. It was one lonely night and they both had a little too much youkan.
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>>101478929
>they wouldn't go full retard
>Valvrave 2nd Season
Are you sure?
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Anyone still bitter? I know I am still.

Damn the godly soundtrack.
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>>101478964
Moving on as in not letting himself die from lack of oxygen while hallucinating on the moon.
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>>101479005
Was never bitter.
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>>101479004
At least S2 had L-elf. Any other seasons that would take place 200+ years wouldn't have him to fall back on.
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>>101479069
>At least S2 had L-elf
Why is that a good thing?
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>>101479069
They'd just pull some bullshit to keep him alive. That's why he wasn't mentioned at all in the epilogue.
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>>101479069
>At least S2 had L-elf
Yes, S2 L-Elf, nothing as good as S1 L-Elf.
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>>101479151
So, like cryogenic bullshit of Gundam Wing Frozen Teardrop?
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>>101479189
Exactly. Or like Haruto passed the holy spirit to him.
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>>101479043
She said it in episode 19 actually, before the moon stuff. Told him he's still young, like move on and live your life. Widowers can re-marry, besides he's never even had a relationship. It's like Haruto was the first "friendship" he had, the other Dorssian boys were just comrades. Probably if there's an S2 it will be about moving on and protecting home whatever.
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>>101479183
Please no bully.
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Why did Haruto exist anyway?
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>>101479005
I'm healed of all bitterness and learned to accept (and even enjoy) the ending. I'm a bit used to having my hopes, dreams, otps and favorite characters killed or screwed over when watching cartoons. Thanks for the relaxing entertainment after a hard day at work, Japan.

The soundtrack is indeed godly.
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>>101479287
>Haruto was the first "friendship" he had
[citation needed]
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>>101479117
Because he's a qt3.14.
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>>101479287
Moving on and living his life doesn't imply he will be reproducing. I imagine him being the type that would look after a bunch of war orphans instead of running his own family.
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>>101479305
To make the other characters look good. Then they realized they had to at least make him look good for the finale, so they ruined Shoko to take the hate off him.
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>>101474071
>>L-elf, A-drei, and the girls
>Wouldn't that be Code Geass II: The Raving?

would be far more interesting to watch than Haruto
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>>101479305
Ōkouchi likes nice getting caught in way over their heads to grow up.
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>>101478077
There's already scans of at least some of the pamphlet in the archive.
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>>101479600
>Ōkouchi likes nice getting caught in way over their heads to grow up.

well, that decision doomed this franchise

they should get someone else to deal with Valvrave
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>>101479600
Haruto never grew up though. Every time it looked like he did he'd just revert back to his old insufferable self.
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>>101479378
He calls everyone comrade and just at the end calls Haruto a friend.
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>>101479563
Maybe we'll see K-12 and the loli at L-elf's orphanage.
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>>101479658
In your opinion. I like how Okouchi works. Valvrave was most likely conditioned by Aniplex meddling and bosses forcing him to add things last minute, like rape for shock value, entire Saki's character not present in the original script, etc. When you read some of his interviews it's clear he had different things in mind when he started it.
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>>101479798
Actually he calls everyone a pawn.
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>>101479287
>Haruto was the first "friendship" he had
Possibly a stretch.
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>>101479884
Haruto probably would have matured mid-way and helped L-Elf develop.
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>>101481129
That's where it looked like it was heading. But then all the progress their relationship had in episode 12 was dropped between seasons, Haruto regressed to a point he never recovered from, and they never had another moment where they were truly working together again. And yet we're still supposed to accept this homodachi crap they forced on us at the end.
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>>101479884
>entire Saki's character not present in the original script
[citation needed]

Her character always existed.
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>>101481877
>Her character always existed.
[citation needed]

There's a reason she never appeared in any of the pre-production materials with all the other characters.
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>>101481981
There is a reason why she is in the booklet with the sketches.

Also
>pre-production materials

A single poster and what else?
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>>101482063

From what I understood she was supposed to be a supporting character on the same level as Takahi originally.
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>>101481877
You're going to have to take my word for that because I'm not going to dig through the archive. It was mentioned somewhere Saki was a last minute addition, I think it was in one of the CDs with seiyuu talking or in Hoshino's comments. Or the lack of them for what that matters, she dedicated an entire section to Akira and Shoko but Saki was put together with assorted students.
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>>101482417
And Akira is supposed to be the other heroine with Haruto finding her instead of Shoko.
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>>101482417
Yeah, but her character existed from the beginning, and if they changed something about her, they surely didn't change it " last minute", since her character was used to promote Momoko's single. That is not something you change "last minute".

>>101482466
She had a smaller role, that is it. The sketches are from pre-production phase, and the planning-book is dated 2012/10 and her character is already there.
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>>101482670
Carmilla is not there for example, but this stuff is dated 2012/10, nothing implies a "last minute" change if they had already that stuff.
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>>101482670
I should have specified, a last minute addition to the main story as a love interest. She was probably as relevant as Thunder or Jewbro initially.
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>>101482830
You took "last minute" too literally. I didn't meant they waited until the evening of the first screening to sneak Saki in.
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>>101482670
>>101482830
Cool watermark. The drawings and text behind it make it difficult to enjoy thoroughly.
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>>101482670

Where are the rest of these scans?
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>>101482670
>her character was used to promote Momoko's single

You mean the one Haruto and L-Elf were on the cover of?
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>>101483110
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/95557559/#95575553

>>101483172
Yeah, the one which had her song + the ED.
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>>101482670
The scan only says she's a popular girl that doesn't get along with anyone, then later becomes a pilot. There is nothing about her becoming a heroine or being dragged into Haruto's drama which ended up being most of her role.
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>>101482670
Interesting bits.
Shoko is described as Haruto's classmate, not childhood friend.
Inuzuka treats well the ladies.
Aina liked Haruto and was supposed to be an operator.
Otamaya likes conspiracy theories.

Nothing about Saki being part of the love triangle or Inuzuka liking Aina. Everything else are things we already know (Akira being the founder of the Wired, Inuzuka wanting to be the richest and so on).
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L-Elf x Shoko will be my OTP forever.
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>>101484688
>Aina liked Haruto and was supposed to be an operator.
That is interesting, IIRC they even asked this to Okouchi when the anime was airing.
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>>101482830
If this says what I think it says, originally the Valvraves changed their pilots' DNA to make piloting easier. The equipment would also be added according to the skills of each pilot.

Nothing about runes or ancient vampires stuck inside them.
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>>101485850
And he denied it, didn't he? Those interviews can't be trusted.
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>>101480227
Not saying that like A-drei didn't regard L-elf as a friend, but he saw them as comrades. Like almost a business arrangement where they got along to get the job done. In the flashbacks it looked like the boys were friends, I just don't think L-elf quite made the connection it was friendship. Really he does it with Haruto because the guy has no memories anymore.
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My poor moon tells me they already had the concept that the Valvraves had a new and strong energy (hard-light) and they required an information-based life-form (magius) to boot it. The only way to get the pilots to pilot would be injecting them with the "information-based life-form" factor? I think. Additionally the pilots had to make a contract with the Valvraves to get their own particles (runes?) absorbed by them every time they start them up. Whenever this happened their bodies would become superhuman. It is speculated that beasts from ancient times such as vampires and werewolves were human beings that had a large intake of these information particles and became inhuman. They would literally become monsters if they kept on piloting, I think this is what it's implying. This page confused the hell out of me though, maybe someone else could provide an actual translation that makes sense.
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The students were left with a 10km university town from the country of JIOR after Dorssia took over. ARUS was called ARTO (Atlantic Rim Treaty Organization) and I think JIOR was part of it before being occupied by Dorssia.
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>you'll never cream in kriem

Truly suffering.
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>>101482670
That Kyuma
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Haruto was a student in JIOR's experiment colony school. It's mentioned he ends up piloting accidentally but the reason isn't clear. The Valvrave contract is making him suffer.
L-elf is called the dark hero. It's mentioned he trained in a secret Dorssia agency as a child but there's no hints of a pink haired princess. He wanted to get revenge on Dorssia and teams up with Haruto, becoming their strategist. Fun thing is, they say he was sent to "Japan" for the occupation.
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>>101487781

well the anime confirmed that mythological folktale legends were Magius

Jesus was also a Magius

So that aspect didn't really change much

The only pronounced change is having Haruto be a special snowflake and take most of the burden for other other pilots

Hmm.. Do you think the show would be better if everyone paid the same price?
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>>101489668
I think it would be more interesting if they all suffered the side effects. As it is everyone got the goods and Haruto paid the price.
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>>101489668
Maybe Magius but not also aliens. Would have been interesting if L-elf tried to initially kill Lieselotte before realizing she was a prisoner too. If the part about revenge is true anyway.
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>>101490089
>If the part about revenge is true anyway.
Last sentence in the black box of >>101489624
>ドルシア軍邦に復讐するため、作戦参謀としてハルトと共闘する。
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JIOR was inside a glass-Earth suspended in space or something. Series information at the bottom confirms it was 2 cour (24 or 25 episodes) and planned to air between April-September, no summer break. Age target was old teens-30.
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>>101490855
Pretty cool. Wish we got a re-made VVV using this information instead.
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>>101489668
>Hmm.. Do you think the show would be better if everyone paid the same price?
Yes.
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>430 replies
I have no idea how we always manage to max threads like this.
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>>101496407
Setting aside that this is the newest chapter thread, it seems that everyone hasn't still gotten off the wild ride. Besides, it's always fun to discuss how VVV might could have been especially when you look at the side materials they're churning out. Like how this chapter shows how Saki actually escapes unnoticed and without getting attention.
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>>101497008
there's 4 more chapters of Saki manga.

I wonder what else will they show. Besides the obvious.
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>>101497223
>there's 4 more chapters of Saki manga
Source please.
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>>101479884
>In your opinion. I like how Okouchi works. Valvrave was most likely conditioned by Aniplex meddling and bosses forcing him to add things last minute, like rape for shock value, entire Saki's character not present in the original script, etc. When you read some of his interviews it's clear he had different things in mind when he started it.

whatever decisions they made, this franchise isn't going to be worthwhile and everyone will forget it within this year
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>>101497441
After a year or so, it will go into SRW just like Aquarion EVOL!
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>>101497357

1 tankouban is 4 chapters
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>>101497552
That's shaky reasoning. If there is only one more chapter, it'll be put into vol2.
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>>101497552
That argument was debunked with A-drei manga. The second tankobon is going to have 5 chapters.
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>>101497441

I haven't forgotten AGE yet. Even though I want to.

For a mech anime to be forgettable you have to be Olynssis grade of unimpressive.
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>>101497441
Speak for yourself, anon.
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>>101497441
And yet almost two months later, here we are.
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I said ARUS is on sale and I mean it.

We're removing the Reefs and the last bit of virgin forests from the Heritage listing.

Even if we don't have farms or fishes anymore. Don't worry, the free market will fix it. We can always eat bank notes.
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>>101498799
And uh- youtube, I recommend you stop going against our---I mean ARUS interest.

Even though we're a Elected Monarchy who pride ourselves on freedom of speech we do not like it when plebes dissent against us.

You won't like us when we're angry.
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>>101497008
There's almost no replies discussing the chapter though.
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>>101489624
>He wanted to get revenge on Dorssia
Oh, wow, the "revenge is useless" bullshit was a change.
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>>101499030

Bless you Abbot and bless you Rog.
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>>101448843
Even Dorssian scum becomes cute when Saki jacks it.
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>>101502178
Among the people Saki jacked so far, who's the best of them all?
>Haruto
>Thunder (Drama CD4)
>L-elf (Drama CD4)
>Akira (VVV Summit Picture Drama)
>K-zwolf
>Random Dorssian Grunt (Valkyrie of the Meteor Ch08)
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>>101502475
Haruto > Akira = K-Wolf > Dorssian guy > L-Elf > Thunda
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>>101502475
I want to cum inside Saki!L-Elf
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>>101502862
>cumming inside a male
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>>101502862
I want Saki!L-Elf to cum inside me.
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>>101489624

What the fuck is a 'dark hero', anti hero?

Superman and Batman?
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>>101477154

Specially because they send him threats if ShokoxL-Elf happened, because L-Elf is pure for Lieselotte/Haruto/A-drei.
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>>101503032
Heroes with dark past
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>>101479189

They conquered the Galaxy, there might be some alien immortality herb that keeps him a teenager forever.
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>>101503174

He loves Valvrave so much, he becomes a Valvrave like Setsuna became a Gundam.
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>mfw being a harutofag in valvrave threads
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>>101503640
>yfw being Shokofag
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>本日ジャンプSQ.3月号&JC『革命機ヴァルヴレイヴ』発売!!アニメで語られなかったパイロット達の物語。帯にはキャラクターデザイン原案の星野先生にコメントをいただきました。土屋先生が描くJC『Z/X』2巻と一緒に是非ご一読を!!/T pic.twitter.com/2vHFSFXsNI
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>>101503677
It's a good feeling.
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Afureru namida
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>>101502475
>>Thunder (Drama CD4)
>>L-elf (Drama CD4)
>>Akira (VVV Summit Picture Drama)
Wish I could hear those.
I guess Akira would be real funny, since her personality is night and day different.
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>>101507721
See master post for links.
All of them were uploaded by some nice anons.
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>>101502970
I'm sure he'll become a little girl soon. Probably.
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Looking at these scans I see this show could've went somewhere. I wonder how the writers and director feel when they see that the final product is not what they initially wanted.
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>>101508992
I think they don't really care as long as they get payed.
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Which threads did you migrate to?
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>>101513050
Nobunaga the Fool, Wizards Barristers, Sakura Trick and D-Frag. Not as good as VVV threads though.
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>>101513050
non-/a/ ones. I only really come back here for VVV.
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>>101513050
Hamatora mainly. A few Nobunaga, BC, and KnB threads.
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>>101513050
/a/ was good only during active VVV threads and Medaka Box threads when the manga was on going, so I just lurk /m/ now
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These sushi fanarts are making me goddamn hungry.
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>>101497962
The first A-drei volume debunked it by having only 3 chapters.
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>>101518755
Doesn't debunk anything because there was nothing to compare it to.
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>>101518755
A-drei first has 3, second has 5.
Saki first has 4, second has 5.
Deal with it.
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>>101518861
Saki's volume was released only a few days after A-drei's volume. The other anon said Saki's would have a 3rd volume simply because there was a 9th chapter and each tankoubon has 4 chapters.
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>>101519077
They are different series. You can't cross compare them. Though the other anon was still grasping at nothing since the page count in the Saki manga has been very inconsistent.
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>>101519220
That's true, they are different. I was just going by page count, and am assuming Saki's second volume will have 5 chapters.
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>>101520341
OTP
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If your plan was to max the thread and kill it, you're succeeding.
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>>101522850
Done.
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>501 replies
Now watch it die.
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>>101522902
Good job.
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>>101522850
This chapter finally delivered some A-Drei/Saki.
It's proper to end it with the fanart of Valvrave's best crack-pairing.
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>>101522968
Thanks.
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>>101523086
>crack-pairing
Why are you afraid of saying you like it?
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>>101523086
>best crack-pairing

It's even worse than L-Elf x Shoko and Haruto x Saki.
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>>101523150
I like it. That does not change the fact that it's "just" a crack-pairing.

>>101523217
>Haruto x Saki
>crack-pairing

Pick one.

By the way, can I expect a translation of A-Drei's last chapter in the next days?
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>>101453457
Thank you for the translation as always.

Editor here, I've already started (fast)cleaning. Should be done in 1-4 days from now. After that I'll take panel clean-up requests. (Where I clean them properly as picture related.)
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>>101523439
Calling Saki x Audrey a crack pairing is like saying you watch Valvrave ironically.
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>>101523535
>After that I'll take panel clean-up requests. (Where I clean them properly as picture related.)
Can I ask for these two pages >>101448746 >>101448902 and the Saki on the bottom here >>101448866 when you are done? ;_;
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>>101523569
Why? It fits the definition of crack-pairing.
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>>101523756
It doesn't. Pairings that fit the description are Shoko x Audrey or Hannah x Aina for example.
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>>101523982
Delusional shipperfag pls.
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>>101523569
Watching Valvrave unironically is what led to people getting upset at the ending.
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>>101523982
But H-Neun did try to flirt with Aina, didn't he?

What's your definition of crack-pairing?
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>>101524130
Personally, I watched it unironically and wasn't upset.
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>>101524140
I guess you're right and H-neun x Aina could be legit ship. Crack pairings should be pairings that don't make any sense because the characters don't have shipping inducing interactions or interactions at all.
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>>101524387
By that logic L-elf x Shoko isn't a crackship either.
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>>101524486
I never said it was.
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>>101524130
I watched it ironically and unironically.
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>>101523715
Added.
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>>101524539
Okay, nice to know.
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>>101524728
Based. I will give you a __kiss__ ASAP.
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>>101524796
A-an-anon that's a bit..
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>>101523535
Since >>101523715 already asked for the spread and last page I will only request for >>101448329

Thanks for your work.
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>>101525140
Me too. I really like the cover.
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