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Jesus, just finished Utena, it was glorious.

Utena discussion? Utena discussion. I'm going to miss all the FABULOUSNESS and ALLEGORY and PLAIN WEIRD BULLSHIT, in this show. It was a pretty wild ride.

JIBUN WOO
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>>101443421
You just saw your waifu leaving a hotel room. On the other side of the door, inside of the room lying on the bed, is Akio. What do?
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>>101443565
The only possible, sane, answer.

I jump into a '55 Chevy, challenge a high school girl to a duel, and steal her girlfriend so I can revolutionise the world.

It's all so simple!
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What does it mean to "revolutionize the world"?
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Yuri Bear PV when?
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>>101443987
Change/grow up. All the character's are trapped inside some childish past that's literally become their whole world in the form of the academy. They have to bring about a true change and move on, i.e. smash through the shell.
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Have you seen the film yet?

Because it's absolutely amazing.
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>>101444344
Pretty much a giant allegory for not succumbing to easy delusion and fantasy, that existential angst is a fallacy if you keep on breathing.
>maybe that's why /a/ never discusses this show.

I guess I should watch the movie next. I've heard it's almost more insane than the series.
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>>101443565
Nothing, Akio is the god of sex and it is impossible for me to be the pimp daddy he is.
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>>101444344


What was the allegory for when Utena fucked that nigger
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>>101444610
...I'm suddenly even more compelled to watch it, it better have even deeper symbolism than the series.

>I hated myself when it took me a half dozen episodes to notice the rose garden was a gilded birdcage.
At least I figured it out before they blatantly spelled it out.

Does /u/ have constant Utena threads, like we have constant Eva threads?
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>>101444675
>I've heard it's almost more insane than the series.
It's basically the whole show turned up to 11 and makes no goddamn sense. It's brilliant.
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>>101444735
Last I checked a good half or so of /u/ hates Utena.
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>>101444727
Don't deny the Akio, if he fucked my waifs I wouldn't even be mad.

I'd be jealous that he didn't show me the "end of the world" and take a topless car ride with me.
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Why the fuck would anyone want to crack the world eggshell and then become a dildo car?
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>>101444727
This is why /a/ never discusses it, they're too immature and emotionally stunted to actually accept a character having sex. The sexless world of anime is much more appealing to faggots who've never been laid and are so jaded that they can't even consider sex in a literary context.
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>>101444776
>Hates /u/tena?

What the fuck is wrong with /u/? They thrive on barely a whisper of homoeroticism and they get pissed at goddamn Utena? Are they just mad Akio totally opened her rose gate?
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>>101444812
Because you're stuck in a world ruled by a nigger cock mobile, literally coming out the walls and floor.
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>>101444826
Dude, Utena is 14.

And who knows how fucking old Akio is.
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>>101444874
Yes
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>>101444826
I'd tone down the vitriol personally, but I'd agree.
I mean, they glorify Shinji having a wank over Asuka, then go "icky" when Utena loses her virginity?

And not because of how discomforting Akio's corruption and consumption of the young, naïve girl.
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>>101444957
>they glorify Shinji having a wank over Asuka
T-they do?
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>>101443565
>You just saw your waifu leaving a hotel room. On the other side of the door, inside of the room lying on the bed, is Akio. What do?

Do Akio.
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>>101444874


Pretty much, /u/ to this day is still ass devastated
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>>101444874
Do you even have to ask?
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>>101444992
More like /a/ laughed its collective asses off when betamax wanked it right then and there while NERV's spooks were watching.
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>>101445004
Finally someone posts the correct answer. You were next the entire time, anon. Akio knew you were listening from behind the wall.
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>>101444957
>they glorify Shinji having a wank over Asuka
It's just one hell of a way to start a movie, I don't think anyone "glorifies" it.
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>>101445009
I'm guessing that image alone is enough to cause a category 2 shitstorm there
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>>101445009
I'm liking RGU more and more!

>>101444992
I mean all the threads that often start with that image, and how much it's mentioned otherwise.

RGU miiiiiight get a mention in an "anime classics" barely disguised rec thread, but I can count the times I've seen it mentioned recently on one hand.

It's a good series, are people just too afraid of Shoujoshit and FABULOUSNESS to give it a go?
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>>101444764
I fucking love this scene, one of my absolute favorites in all of animu:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwOSYhikdjM
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What did the swords represent?
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I first saw this when I was fifteen I think..? Horrible quality files streamed through realplayer. The only anime I had really watched before that was Slayers, Dragonball and Gunsmithcats.

I staggered out the other side of episode 39 like a shellshocked POW. What the fuck did I just watch? Why did it upset me so much? Why did I want to watch it again? Why were all the characters so complex and why was no one what they seemed and why couldn't I hate any of them and why did everything mean something except when it didn't?

I was not ready for that shit. But still some of my favorite mindfuckery to this day.
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>>101445230
I-I'm really tempted to cross board, but they'd find this thread immediately and mods are too asleep to contain the possible drama

Plus shirt posting is bad, m'kay?
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>>101444826

/a/ does discuss Utena, I saw a thread last week, stop bitching jesus christ.
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>>101445263
The hatred of the masses.
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>>101445263
Dicks.

Anthy was raped by million dicks.
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>>101445263

Both the angry mob's swarm of swords and the duellist swords represented their anger at not having their dreams fulfilled.
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>>101445284
The complexity of the characterisation in Utena was amazing, it really does lend itself to rewatching. The box sets are so nice I might consider picking it up after I watch the film.

I mean, with Ruka, and the end of his arc, it went completely different from where I was expecting it to go, you know, classic villain of the week territory. Instead I wanted to rewatch the entire arc just because his conclusion utterly recontextualised every single one of his actions.

They used the duels masterfully, each time a character challenged Utena we delved deeper and became even more involved. I can't even really be that critical of the pacing, even if it dragged a little in places, the character interactions were totally worth it.
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>>101445345
>>101445372
Same thing.
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Ikuhara's commentary/explanation of episode 39:
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/70227574/#q70245962

Also for the end of the Black Rose arc, which is important for the end as well:
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/70227574/#q70243836
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You should watch the movie. It's like a bonus present for finishing the show.
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>>101445520

Because really, you just can't stop Utena's wild ride.

>>101445409

You do kind of need to rewatch the show to see everything in their real contexts.
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>>101445520
I will when this thread 404's, unless I baby sit the thread on my phone as I watch it.
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>>101445520
It makes no fucking sense unless you see the series first, and even then it goes off the grid a few times (consider it a psychedelic AU.) But years later it's still some of the most beautiful shit I've ever seen.
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>>101445553
The melancholy and saudade that permeated the end of the series was pretty much amazing, it was a perfect juxtaposition to the fairy tale themes and Shoujo stylistic choices.

Was that merry-go-round yet another reference to The Catcher in the Rye?

>>101445471
Some of those points in the black rosé thread are interesting, SJW stuff aside, I felt sick when Akio tried to force "perfect, feminine princesshood" onto the poor girl, the apex of all the slimy, predatory bullshit Akio inflicted upon Utena.
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http://pastebin.com/Ati3b0MN
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Want a bite?
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>>101445823
>dat foreshadowing.

Oh Ikuhara, you magnificent bastard.
I'm almost compelled to finally give penguin drum a go too. Almost.
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>>101445982
IMAAAAAAGINE
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>>101446044
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm2dynx7Fwo
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>>101446068
I'm not going to laugh at that. Much.
Some people can really fuck up an injection and others can have a pretty light touch.
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I'm starting the movie now, I'm so excite. Let's start this wild ride.

Other anons, rev up those movies, let's watch and discuss.
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>>101446617
I'm not even two minutes in and my mind's already been blown. How? How is he so good at composition and visual rhythm? How?
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>>101446617
Damn. A watchalong would be fun. but I'm fading fast. Have fun, all.
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>>101446664

Oh, you just wait, it's just starting.

Those shots of the school and all the moving parts are truly amazing though.
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>>101446702
Some other time anon, but this intro is amazing

I almost forgot to mention, how good is the sound track to Utena? It's perhaps one of my favourite soundtracks to date, and I often somehow miss the music in shows. I could listen to it just on it's own, but it'd be a shame to separate it from it's in sync visual accompaniment.
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>>101446664
How come people aren't puking from airsickness? Everything's floating and shit.
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>>101446801

The music was definitely great, one of the shows strong points. I wanted to download the OSTs but there's just way too much.
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>>101446801
>how good is the sound track to Utena?
It's pretty damn sweet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbQ5KOLJcnk
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What's up with Miki's preternatural obsession with keeping (apparently arbitrary) time?

Is it just an extension of his obsession with his fleeting past, his lack of that Je ne sais pas in his piano playing, his fear of time moving forward?
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Do you know? Do you know? Do you really know how to slap a bitch?
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>>101446997

That describes all the characters and their issues, really

I think the stopwatch recorded how long the last scene or piece of dialogue lasted.
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just post pic of perfection
seriosly, this type of women makes every animu better
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>>101447187
I'll have to time it myself next watch through then.

Man, I'd love this to be a 2 or 3 movie series, the pacing isn't bad, in fact in really preferring it, I just wish they had more time to work with, some of the stuff in that first duel is only really weighty if you've watched the series. Otherwise it's be a bit left field. Still, it's great so far.
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>>101447404
Her arcs were always really strong; plus that story she told at the end was a perfect tone setting monologue. Her VA did a great job. Something about tortured, broken, gay girls trying to fight against their male peers and their own crushing inability to hope makes great viewing.
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>>101447412

The movie is a mix of recap, AU new stuff, throwing in some fun stuff for fans, and Ikuhara going all out where he couldn't with the show. So there is some stuff that seems "Oh this is just the same as the show but done like a million times faster", but there's plenty of new stuff too.
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>>101447990
It feels like I'm watching something a lot longer than it actually is, and I'm totally engaged, pretty masterful.
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>>101448224
FRIENDSHIP
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You should be an hour into the movie now
Now time for drowning in craziness
Almost time to rev up into top gear
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HA HA TIME FOR ZETTAI UNMEI MOKUSHIROKU
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http://www.gwern.net/docs/1997-utena

Some stuff from Ikuhara and the staff
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>>101444735
>>I hated myself when it took me a half dozen episodes to notice the rose garden was a gilded birdcage.
>At least I figured it out before they blatantly spelled it out.

Oh god, I did the exact same thing, I felt so dumb
When I rewatch this I think I'll feel even dumber for all the other things I obviously missed
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>>101448672
Ikuhara sounds like a chuu2byou
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>>101448419
A-Akio?! Wha?! WHAAAAAA?!

You won't find your keys down there!
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>>101448904
T-Touga? Touga?! TOOOOOUGA?! Miki, are you going to survive the film?!
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>>101449058

Miki thankfully turns up fine
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>>101449058
Jeeeeeeeeeeeesus Christ. Was the last 20 or so minutes directed by Dali? He's the only other guy with the gall to fuck with my head with pure animated glory that much.

Pretty sure I just found a new film to add to the favourite animated film list.

Wow. That was RGU turned to 11.

My keys! Where are my keys?!
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>>101449573

Miki is so cute. I want to shank his tender boypussy while he shivers with pleasure.
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>>101449573
His sister on the other hand...
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>>101449619
That went to weird places quickly.

>Not that I didn't think half the male population of the series wasn't hot.

It's not fair, the FABULOUSNESS was too much!
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>>101449589
Hope you watched it in good quality.

Because it's a one gorgeous looking film.
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>>101449589

I think the movie version made Aiko more pathetic as revenge for being such a scumbag

The ending was truly great. What a triumphant way to depict the whole theme of the show. Despite being so strange, I thought it was pretty straightforward in going over all the main messages of the show. of course, it would still be totally bonkers for anyone who hadn't watched the show, and still is to everybody else too.
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>>101449626
I'd put a load into that boot, if you know what I mean.

For a blue haired, sociopathic animal, Kozue was a babe. It's weird that they managed to do so well with so little for her character, her resentment and bro-con, her childishness and her utterly Lolita-esque sexual precociousness.

Kozue, died in child birth, Gray Star, Alaska. Age: 17.
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>>101449619

I thought he was a girl at first.
Then I learned he was a boy and was even more excited

>>101449589

Glad you enjoyed it
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>>101444675
>>maybe that's why /a/ never discusses this show.
That's an objectively wrong statement.
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>>101449685
Yeah, they really went to town on Akio; but I think it really fit his character, the illusion and utter failure of a prince, without morals or ideals, but trapped by his own fantasies. I thought poor old Saiyonji got off worst, they gave him some sympathetic moments in the series, but it was all lost in the pace.

Oh yeah, the allegory was simple, but it's was beautiful in it's simplicity, and perfect in execution.

Anno must've watched it and thought "Well fuck, it's a good thing I didn't make EoE because I /liked/ my audience."
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>>101444826
Typical degenerate. The day of the rope will come for you. Go back to whatever feminist shithole you crawed out of . /co/ or /lit/ probably.
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>>101449747
Was he voiced by a girl? I'll have to check that out, I think so anyways.

>>101449871
Discusses it once in a blue moon?
>meaning I probably just miss most of the threads.
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>>101445242
>RGU miiiiiight get a mention in an "anime classics" barely disguised rec thread, but I can count the times I've seen it mentioned recently on one hand.
Why do you newshits always make idiotc statements without any citation.

http://archive.foolz.us/a/search/text/utena/
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>>101449921

There was no way he wasn't voiced by a girl
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>>101449921
I know losers who just now watch old anime classics, tend to show off their non-browsing of the board and think they are euphoric, but the guy(unlikely) in this thread is fucking annoying. He probably woudn't even have heard of Utena if it weren't for the > faggots who've never been laid and are so jaded that they can't even consider sex in a literary context.
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Friendly reminder that Nanami was a bigger pussy-destroyer than Utena, Anthy, or Juri combined.
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>>101449958
...heh heh?
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>>101450061
What the hell are you rambling about?
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>>101450158
Nanami? She was a giant cow.



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