Born of the Boobs: Banlist edition.
>Deathrite Shaman banned
We m/a/gic now.
pretty sure that's vanguard
He's still legal in Legacy.
Bitterblossom unban. I'm fucking bitter
I know that feel.
I wonder what cards can I combo with this.
I'm considering a black green tokens deck and I want something that's fast. I'm a new player too. Can anyone give me recommendations?
I'm just picturing Jund with BB instead of Deathrites. I hate Wizards so much right now.
Wait, Wild Nacatl unbanned? Excuse me?
Glad I don't play modern, but standard kinda sucks and limited is awful right now.
YOU CANNOT FATHOM HOW UPSET I AM AT DEATHRITE SHAMAN BEING BANNED
THE MOST POWERFUL DECKS IN THE FORMAT AREN'T EVEN JUND
ANY OF THOSE U/W/X CONTROL DECKS
DEATHRITE SHAMAN BAN HURTS NONE OF THOSE LISTS, AND THEY'RE THE MOST PREVALENT IN MODERN
JUND IS LITERALLY JUST A PILE OF GOOD CARDS JUST LIKE JUNK IS
THEY'RE JUST GONNA REPLACE DEATHRITE SHAMAN WITH ANOTHER SUPER RETARDED CARD
LIKE FUCKING BITTERBLOSSOM
Praising ain't easy.
Bitterblossom, say hello to my little friend. He doesn't even die to t1 thoughtseize :^)
Yeah fuck them. Other decks like gifts still need Deathrite. But I'm far more upset that they unbanned BB. If BB doesn't get a reprint at least, I'm probably going to quit this shit.
Oh man, someone's going to have to introduce you to Scion of Oona
>My butt when BB unban
Maybe we can get decent aggro decks in there now, and i love it since control is my worst match up.
I was expecting a Pod ban, afinnity isnt that bad, Urza while unfair it just doesnt get the numbers.
People aren't going to have 3 mana open all the time m8.
everything is legal in legacy
Someone is going to introduce you to Faeries and you're not going to like it.
I was around in Lorwyn standard, RG ramp and GW kithkin did just fine against faeries then.
I listed those decks because I'd consider them to be decks that are the most oppressive to the format right now. Jund is extremely resilient to the bans that are directed towards it, and always finds new cards to shove into its decklist to compensate. Remember Bloodbraid Elf? Banning that didn't suddenly undo Jund, and banning Deathrite Shaman won't either. This time, however it hurts a bunch of other decks, but not a lot of the ones that are very well positioned at the moment.
Anyone pimp out their decks with kawaii uguu animu sleeves? What would be a good source to buy them from?
Japanese Yahoo Auctions or Amazon. I'm still butthurt they unbanned Bitterblossom.
Surprisingly good tast-
To the anon who posted a 2hu custom set in a thread like this a few weeks ago:
I managed to get a custom set -> Cockatrice sets file thing working, and did a bet of playtesting. I fixed a couple of glaring issues, like Mini Hakkero being near-mox tier broken, and the wording on a couple of cards being a bit off, so if you'd like an updated version of the MSE or want to play a game, let me know.
I've got F/Z Saber sleeves, F/Z Rider command seal, and Suzuha.
Thanks for reminding me to check the import sites for any good additions to my weeaboo arsenal. Those Amagami ones might still be up...
Either way, I can't wait for F/SN 2.0 to flood the market this fall. Gotta get all mai servantos so they can join Saber in making all the other neckbeards jelly.
I wonder where that desudesu showoff went, he kept posting his obsolete RDW in these threads.
What's fucking amazing is he got all the bans and unbans correct.
19 Jan 14
Can someone explain to me why Gideon Jura is a good card. I don't get it.
Because ___it isn't ___
Ex-Eggs player here.
Quit your whining, it's not like they banned out YOUR PRIMARY ENGINE OR ANYTHING JUST BECAUSE FUCK YOU.
>Cogwork Librarian (4)
>Artifact Creature - Construct
>Draft Cogwork Librarian face up. As you draft a card you may draft an additional card from that booster pack. If you do, put Cogwork Librarian into that booster pack.
You can double-pick from pack2 or 3 if you put back your Hill Giant back in the booster
I hope it's uncommon
That's because your 20-minute long turns were giving everyone grief.
It's the only deck that I could afford in the format. Particularly when they also hate storm too.
GW hatebears is a good deck that doesn't need no fetches and 100-dollar cards.
>4X noble heirarch
I really can't afford this hobby. I can't even afford standard. I don't know why I even attempt to play anymore.
It's just disproportionate the amount of hate it got. And it is probably due to the fact that it was a legit combo deck rather than it dominating or being obnoxious.
It won ONE PT and was forever banned.
They didn't do anything to Jund for a long long long time before taking away Bloodbraid.
Wizards just doesn't like combo. And they will do anything to stop it.
No storm, no eggs, no dredge.
Creatures all day errr day.
I know how you feel.
I substitute the hierarchs for birds of paradise and the horizon canopies for basics and it still does good. The rest of the cards are $10 or less, besides the voices of resurgence, which are a necessary evil.
This new set is boring as fuck.
Either that or I got too spoiled by Innistrad + RTR
It's Kamigawa 2.0, at least Kamigawa was interesting.
I don't understand it. what's the difference between taking that card and switching it with a second card and just taking the second?
Were Egg players going overtime? That's also why they banned Div Top.
>Open pack 1
>pick Cogwork librarian, put it on table face up
>Open pack 2
>Rare and foil rare both on color
>Shit, can take only one
>pick both, put librarian in the booster, give booster to right
Essentially, if I read it right, if you're drafting, and you open a pack with it, you can take it like normal, but you have to display it faceup when you take it.
When you get passed another pack, you can take two cards from it instead of one, and stick Librarian into that pack instead.
There are still plenty of OTK decks in modern, melira pod, splinter twin and mono-green devotion starring G-wave. If you're against creatures for whatever stupid reason and just want to sling spells at each other, pyromancer storm is still a thing.
Both of those were incredibly boring flavour-wise, if you care about that sort of thing. This is just the other way 'round.
Someday they'll follow up on New Phyrexia.
Egg players were going overtime in 2 conditions. The first was if they were bad or ptq grinders that heard it was good and did 20 minutes of playtesting with it. The second was they were going against blue based tempo or control strategies.
>pyromancer storm is still a thing.
Barely, since they killed ponder, preordain, and seething song.
Why is /a/ suddenly /tg/?
Because somehow we are the best board at the game.
it's a bi-weekly occurrence. Anyone got good pulls in the pre release? I got kiora and got her ult off and still lost. Idk how she's worth 20 dollars right now.
She's just bad. If only she had one more starting loyalty. Her +1 makes no sense flavorwise to me.
I picked red, then opened Ashiok, Tromokrasis and Shipbreaker Kraken as my pack rares and ended up playing blue black completely. Still got 3-1.
I got some really good limited pulls but nothing amazing value wise. Too bad I went 1-2 drop because green blue is just so bad in that format now that everyone has removal but that color.
/tg/ is bad at magic
No es fake
I like it
Commander 2014 never coming to a store near you unless you want to shell out 60 dollars for a deck. Honestly though it does look cool
It's not Commander 2014, it's most likely a cube set called Conspiracy.
That's Conspiracy, which isn't a Commander set. It's from the same set as >>101445603
Looks like a small set to draft with only 210 cards.
Maybe next time they won't print bullshit non-commander format damaging cards like True Name Nemesis next time.
Oh shit really? God damn and here i was going to buy a pauper cube.
Guys, why is Force of Will such an expensive card? You're essentially getting 2-for 1'd while losing 1 life too.
It's a free counter, it's really that simple.
Pretty sure this is bait but
Because it's a zero mana counterspell. Because it's an answer when you don't have answers.
Because it's "No. Fuck you." when your opponent thinks they're safe.
Nacatl does literally nothing in the meta right now.
/a/ is so much nicer than /tg/, they called me a retard and laughed when I asked them there, yet they're worse at mtg than /a/.
>opponent has two cards in hand, which you know aren't FoW
>Start to combo
>you see him reaching for his Top
>slowly tapping it
>drawing one card
>putting his Top on top
>trying to combo out when they have top in play, know what the top of their library is, and they're down to 2 cards in hand
admit it, /a/non, the game has gone on too long - you already lost
What is your favorite tribe /a/ and why is not the myr?
Wtf happened? Admittedly I haven't been to /tg/ since 2011 but back then they were the broest of bros and it was amazingly chill.
I got some sleeves with my waifu on them, but they were in poor shape after one fnm and clearly unplayable after two. Of course I bought a second set for display.
Zombies because I enjoy old crappy horror movies. It's why I loved the flavor of the first two Innistrad sets, before AVR came in and threw it out the window.
Based Bitterblossom, now I can fuck with people using the most annoying species.
Guys I just quit Yugioh.
Should I pick this game up?
Sleeve your sleeves yo.
Mah nigga. Bird-ant-robot-gnomes are the shit.
Enjoy buying those at $90 each.
It really depends if you like to keep your money or not and what type of format your local game store plays.
Look at it this way, it's kind of like someone coming to /a/ and saying "Why do you guys like LOGH so much? It's all talking, the animation quality is shit, and the battles suck. "
Will Stax ever come back? I had so much fun being the fun police.
I agree that Deathrite didn't need to be banned, but it will be extremely hard to replace in the Jund and Junk lists. There is no other turn 1 ramp in the format that is consistently useful, no matter what stage the game is in. Deathrite is essentially un-replacble for what he does. Junk and Jund are going to take a really big hit due to this unnecessary banning.
I also want to say that I don't think Bitterblossom unbanning will make a big splash. I mean, the card never even saw play in modern, it was preemptively banned as soon as it was printed. There are plenty of cards that are much more effective that aren't banned.
Also, Wild Nacatl is back. Guess all other aggro decks get to lose to fucking Zoo.
>Implying I don't already own a set
how expensive is this game?
I'd argue it needed the ban. Deathrites piss all over any deck that does anything in the graveyard.
So does ooze.
Less expensive than fancy Yu-gi-oh if I believe friends.
What sleeves did you put yours in? Are penny sleeves big enough? Is it tournament legal? I would love to play with my waifu sleeves all the time. They match my playmat.
a standard deck that is competent can range from 200 - 500 dollars if you're playing standard. A modern deck and legacy is going in the thousands. If you're playing casual then it doesn't matter
There are lots of cards that do that. That isn't why Deathrite got banned. However, lets look beyond Jund and Junk for a minute. Gifts is going to be hit the hardest by the collateral damage of the Deathrite ban. There were other decks that relied on Deathrite, in which he was not OP.
Are those flips?
Standard may be that expensive for a top end deck, but you can play a deck like rakdos aggro for $20, 60 if you need the shock lands.
>spend $200 on the current winning deck
>play it for six months, until it rotates out
>toss it and buy the new one
Why do people do this, again?
ONCE I'VE BEATEN YOU I'LL HAVE ENOUGH STARS TO FIGHT PEGASUS
What's with all the "+1" "-8" shit? And 4/what?
Damn, I just wanna get into if there's cute grills on my cards. Will I do fine with a budget deck?
Welcome to Planeswalkers
You've been away for a long time haven't you?
>pay $1000 to play modern
>1 year later the banlist changes and you're fucked
>toss it out and buy a new one
Why do people do this again?
oh yeah that's right rakdos is really cost effective now with minotaur tribal being a thing now.
It's because of people who net deck and expect to win.
I was wondering what the hell, then I saw his glove.
This Rakdos Aggro deck came first in a GP a couple of months back. It's extremely cheap and I've had a lot of luck with it on MTGO. Good for new players that don't want anything too complicated and still want to be able to win.
Planeswalkers. A legitimately bad mechanic that Wizards released, and the kiddies gobbled up so they're never getting rid of.
If you have friends to play with, there's nothing wrong with being a casual. It's more fun that way, even, and you don't have to worry about raping your wallet (well, not as much).
There's rather a shortage of cute girls in MtG, though. For that, you could try Weiss-Schwartz, although it's less well-made and enjoyable as a game.
Face it, Superfriends is the new face of Control.
Why do I keep seeing this as a toned down version of Akari from Nagi no Asukara?
Because they can't into EDH.
>not spending at most $100 a year to upgrade your deck
>spend $300-400 tops to make a new EDH
>not having waifu sleeves and cases for this shit
I've been considering getting a custom art for my general. Not sure if I should get one of mai waifu.
I wasn't implying that Modern is any better, you know.
You're totally right, I completely forgot about ooze. I retract my statement.
I'm not too familiar with modern, I just lurk MODO streams for it. I quit after worldwake and now I just watch streams and wish I had thousands of dollars to burn on brews.
Every format is that bad.
Every CCG is that bad.
It's like buyfagging figures of your chinese slut girlfriends, if you're worr at all about how much it costs, it's not for you.
>Using the same EDH for the past three years
>change at most two or three cards per expansion
>none in Boring of the Gods
>play in casual EDH so I don't have to worry about meta threats and uber OP decks like Zur or w/e
Playing Momir vig is cool.
I'm partial to getting funny custom art like the classic sub-sculptor but I play with normalfags. If your circle is cool I'd get my waifu.
Ooze is easier to deal with because it comes down turn two and needs G for it to work.
Mtg could be so awesome but wizards is literally the shittiest company ever at managing it.
Mah nigga. I've been wanting to put something together with him for a while, probably abusing his ability to stack the top card of the deck with polymorph effects or something. Currently running some recursion-heavy Teysa, Orzhov Scion. Gotta pick up some janky stuff from Theros, but I really can't be assed right now, since I don't really have anyone to play with.
Fuck yeah I just looked it up right now. Weiss definitely looks like fun, albeit I don't have any friends that play cards anymore. I also feel like if I move to NipLand, there will be a lot of Weiss players there(obviously).
I just need some cash dammit.
I just rebuilt mine. I was using a toolbox Brion deck. Everyone hated me late game. A good amount of games ending as the following:
>everyone else is tapped/no counters
>play phyerexian metamorph
>pay all but 1 life
>Brion throws, get life back, kill player
I got tired of always winning like that, so I made a Soldier Aggro with Tajic.
It sucks playing with people who can't into toolbox.
But you can have more fun and spend less money by not playing any of the stupid-competitive formats. There's no benefit to spending hundreds of dollars every year unless you're really trying to win a tournament with a respectable prize, unless I'm missing something.
Yeah, I get that, and that's why I play EDH and the occasional game of archenemy, if I can get my group together, but then you're a scrub and you need to get good.
Nipland surprisingly has quite a large population of mtg players. Anyone have the pic of Yuuya's Azunyan tokens?
Deathrite Shaman needs either G or B to fuck with your opponent's graveyard, depending on what they're doing.
>If you have friends to play with, there's nothing wrong with being a casual. It's more fun that way
This so much. I'm playing only with group of my friends, I print themed decks that I construct that revolve more around the gimmicks than effectivnes and have so much fun. I have normal decks that I bought, but I got bored of them and don't want to spend more cash on mtg, I have spend too much already.
My friends are so cool that they even allow me to play with decks I myself designed with Magic set editor, currently thinking about the way to create working themed deck around Arpeggio Blue Steel.
MtG is at its the best when people use themed/gimmicky decks or during drafts.
Sorry for the blogshit
>Bitterblossom unbanned and jumps to $80 immediately
I'm gonna beat the shit out of somebody.
>Deathrite Shaman banned
I'M GONNA BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF SOMEBODY
Do you play EDH? It really sounds like you'd enjoy that. You can play some really far out cards if you line up your deck right.
>>spend $300-400 tops to make a new EDH
I'd have to spend almost as much as that just on lands for my Prossh deck if it weren't for the Chinese making proxies.
Speaking of, you know what's great? Getting a few guys together and doing a mini-draft out of a booster box. It can be surprisingly exciting, despite the more relaxed atmosphere when compared to a real draft.
There's a way to get sets made in MSE working in Cockatrice, so you could theoretically play them online. A couple of anons were talking about making an /a/ set a while ago, complete with joke cards like this.
Penny sleeves are too small. I use these http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10123190
And yes, they're tournament legal.
I'm saying after the first one. It's usually the lands that are the hardest for people to get on the first deck they make.
Do those go over regular character sleeves? I've been dying to find some so I can protect my current sleeves.
He also came down turn 1 and ran by anything that played those colors. I'm not sure what lists ran ooze but I'm sure you ran into deathrite more often.
>tempted to go to Born of the Gods pre-release
>cancel at the last minute because honestly the entire set is fucking boring
>put my money towards Bravely Default and Vanguard instead, maybe a few drafts here and there
Fucking BNG. I was not excited at all during spoiler season like I was for Theros.
Oversleeves are meant to go over regular sleeves so they should.
The dimensions of my sleeves are 67x92 so if they're that or smaller, you're good.
If MTG got an anime, who would be the main character?
Jace's need not apply
>mini-draft out of a booster box
Wait, what? I thought that was how draft went normally. At least, that's the only drafts I've been in.
You know who it's gotta be.
I wouldn't mind a Tezzeret one though. Tezzeret was interesting. Ajani would be battle shounen as fuck.
Any other TCG that is quite popular or at least have healthy number of community other than Magic or YGO?
I think Ravnica could work. Everyone loves the guild shenanigans.
MC would be some new boros recruit and his search for his best friend who vanished.
He joined the dimir
But he would be the MC
It'd sell a billion copies on fangirl's wet panties.
/a/ would whine for years about how much wasted potential it had.
Nig Mizzle would be a great MC
I hope people around me still value foreign cards highly.
I want to trade the Portuguese one in my cube for an English one so people new to MTG aren't confused as hell.
Cardfight Vanguard is getting up there.
Last episode twist:
MC was Dimir all along.
SoL Ravnician Girls School when?
I'm gonna get:
Since I believe I use some larger Broccoli sleeves. I don't think being a little oversized as a double protection will matter much, anyway.
I've been dying to find these for ages , thank you guys so much! I've asked in buyfag threads before but they don't know too much about MTG, sadly.
Does anyone know a good place to find "older" character sleeves for not rape prices?
I actually ended up paying extra for a Russian path to exile for my EDH deck so I could refer to it as "Path to Gulag".
Jund doesn't want BB. Jund as it is loses a lot of life and its 2drop section is stacked as hell.
And with DRS being banned, Jund is even more limited in the lifegain options to offset Confidant, Thoughtseize, and lands doing work. I'm predicting that Jund just shifts to Junk for Lingering Souls.
Bravely Default is really good. Turn on the jap VA as soon as possible because GNUNRUNGU is the best sound you'll ever hear.
>mfw the episode where they introduce the izzet love interest
Big Niv doesn't do shit except sit on his ass and bark orders to his subordinates most of the time.
You want Izzet MC, you roll with Ral Zarek.
>Does anyone know a good place to find "older" character sleeves for not rape prices?
eBay. Whether or not your wallet will be raped depends on how old the sleeves are and how popular the character/series was.
You remind me of this one guy I would cube with that always asked for the guy providing the cube to get all english cards because he could not read what half of them did.
Simic-tan is mai waifu.
May I suggest building a cube with friends? It's much more fun than any constructed format, really.
>you will never pet Gruul-tan's fluffy tail
Actually when I was saying draft I meant minidrafts with like 8 players. I was going to some prereleases and while they were enjoyable I don't have time to go for something bigger.
To be honest I've never heard about it, I rarely am a part of bigger communities. Thanks for the info, I will check it out later
I don't like joke cards. They are effectively just funny pictures. The same goes for most of the sets created using MSE. People tend to think about singular card not about whole thing. That's why I create only decks, it's easier to manage. Also most of the time cards are either OP or complete unplayable garbage. Not to mention that some people don't stick to the gramma that is used by wizzards and the artstyles usually don't mesh. Also legendaries everywhere problem.
There are some great sets on MSE, but most of them are fantasy, not themed around one franchise. I'm excited for the Arpeggio because it's easy for me to get decent art and while mental models have to be legendaries, I can use basic ship types as the standard creatures. Oh well... everyone has something stupid to think about when they are bored right?
Melira Pod uses DRS also and you must have no idea how Jund works if you think it wants BB.
Jund with BB has been tested extensively and it's terrible.
You can scour amiami for older ones, their website organization sucks, but I got some yuru yuri ones for ~3$ a pack which is like half price.
nacatl isnt even that powerful, and deathrite is probably one of the most broken cards printed since jtms.
I have a "Junk tower"
5 cards, a big stack of cards for everyone in the middle, unlimited mana. Always attack the guy with the highest HP.
If, during spoiler season, a card makes me think "into the tower it goes" I know it's trash.
We play lots of stupid old cards and very few counterspells / removal.
>She's not actually truly a loli, but a Christmas cake that fucked up experimenting with time.
Of course. Fuck buying rare and foils, I need to pimp out my deck first.
And a lot more other decks in Modern need DRS banned to even operate.
That said, I'm a bit sad to see DRS go. Probably healthier for the format though.
Right, that wasn't very clear. Like, get three or four other people in one it, all pitch in to pre-order a booster box, then spend release day doing a mini-draft and pack wars and shit, rather than going to an official event. 'Mini' only in the sense that there are few players, and you can set your own structure and prizes and so on.
Unfortunately I'm looking for Maki Nishikino from Love Live! and she's one of the extremely popular girls. I'm seeing $16 per pack on eBay. Not as bad as the $40-60 I'm seeing elsewhere.
>and deathrite is probably one of the most broken cards printed since jtms.
Good taste. I want more OTT support. Until then, I play Revengers and Nouvelle Vague.
I'll always be here advocating making a Cube. An commons and uncommons cube is extremely cheap and still loads of fun and tweaking it occasionally feel great.
I just want bushiroad to make Battle Sister breakride or crossride. An 8K vanilla or G1 10K attacker would be nice too.
If you are looking for specific ones you are most likely fucked unless you preorder them, I was just looking through looking for ones that had stock still.
>got her ult off and still lost
How the-- Oh right, I'm guessing you you got wrecked by some sort of voltron abomination?
I really don't like how Theros limited plays out.
I could always wait for S2's merch before I order anything. It's pretty much inevitable, anyway.
Has anyone gotten any card art done before? I'm curious if anybody specializes in anime ones and how much it costs.
That's hilariously wrong. Zoo is going to be the default deck to play for the moment.
Unknown meta? Side with aggro. There are no wrong threats, only wrong answers.
>opponent goes for a voltron abomination
>2 griptide and 3 voyage's end in my deck
Slow death by unblockable 3/2 is the best death.
I havent tried BNG limited yet, but it has a bit more remoal than THE.
Same. Hexagonal Magus is okay but not really what any of the Oracle Think Tank decks want other than Magus.
Gotta love Break Rides.
I feel like they went too far in making removal weaker so you don't feel like shit when your Voltron dies.
>Not playing Cube.
Best bang for buck easily.
I've been dying to try cube. Is there a good site for that like EDH has it's own site? I might start compiling a box with some friends.
Kawaii card sleeves, you say?
I'd argue that Deathrite is stronger than Jace. 4 mana is pretty difficult to manage in Legacy nowadays.
mtgsalvation has a great forum for people trying to get into Cube. You could find a lot of sample cubes on sites like tappedout or cubetutor to get an example of what people like running.
precure cure rhythm 2x
chitose (yuru yuri) 2x
but I dont really play anymore so they are just sitting unused. Most are 2x cause I was going to use them for my edh decks.
Yeah, to be frank deathrite is broken as fuck in eternal formats. For one hybrid mana you get a dork that gives graveyard hate, mana acceleration, reach to end games, life to prolong games, 2 toughness and he is a fucking elf to top it off. In-fucking-sanity.
Seriously, what were they thinking when they printed that thing. Really did deserve its ban.
Dies to removal though.
I hate you, /tg/.
Ahaha, man I love hearing this.
This. Why do people spend $100 on Tarmogoyfs when they die to Doom Blade?
Yeah, that's the only reason Dark Confidant is a good card and worth its price tag.
Holy fuck i need to know where i can find card sleeves like that. (Preferably without costing an arm and a leg.)
RIP Deathrite Shaman
Wonder if the price is going to plummet.
Sees no play in standard so the only format that wants her is really Legacy and Vintage.
Hoping to pick up a cheap one for my cube.
Definitely will, good thing I held back on buying it for my Ravnica collection.
So, what format are you guys playing and what's your favourite deck? EDHfags need not apply.
Went to 3 pre-releases
Midnight prelease I pulled a planeswalker Xenagos and Flame-Wreathed Phoenix. Played U/W and sadly went 1-4
Next day I played twice at a different store. Picked green both times. First time I went 2-3, but everyone participating received a pack and I pulled the G/W god.
Second time I finished 2nd place and I pulled the G/W god again from my seeded pack.
Also, a friend of mine who went with me pulled a foil Brimaz.
That's cardboard dosh.
He'll drop soon enough, I'm holding out before getting a few copies for my token deck.
Cube exclusively, and I like drafting some sort of UB tempo deck most. I p1p1 Bloodbraid Elf over every other card though because that card's impact is ridiculous.
If I had the funds to play a constructed format, I would probably be playing UB Faeries in Modern.
>mfw opponent has a ridiculous amount of card advantage but can't do shit with it
Limited extensively. I don't like Sealed. Sealed honestly feels more luck-based than Draft. In Draft, you have more control of what your deck will be, and have more opportunities to get a bomb. In Sealed it's more like, you get what you get and if you didn't get what you needed in the right amounts then you're probably going to have a bad time.
Favorite deck has to be Prossh EDH currently. Everyone plays cunt-ass decks like Zur, Derevi, all this draw-go-counter shit around me and it's satisfying to just combo out, leave them unable to do shit, and murder everyone at the table all at once.
Depends on format.
Just play pauper. It's a viable format with many archetypes spanning all the way from pure combo to aggro combo, to control combo.
All commons, so it's not extremely expensive, and it's a non-rotating format, so whichever deck you buy can last a decent amount of time till bannings/meta switch.
I used to play Pauper but then they nerfed Infect and I don't know any other ways to be a dick in that format without Cloudpost also banned.
Is Storm still banned?
Pretty much all the good ones. Grapeshot, Empty the Warrens, Temporal Fissure.
Sorry I'm not caught up on Pauper. Don't follow it much.
My favourite thing to do was Blink an evoked Mulldrifter, but I didn't win much.
This looks interesting.
>So the way this deck works is you get your Forest out with Land Grant.Then you cast some rituals to get out your Balustrade Spy and target yourself. Now that your library is in your graveyard, you Conjurer’s Bauble the Haunting Misery and it pops into your hand. You then shoot your opponent with a lethal Misery.
>4. Get to 5 mana, use Balustrade Spy on yourself, cast Songs of the Damned getting like 20+ mana, flashback Morgue Theft targeting Anarchist, flashback another Morgue Theft onto a Simian Spirit Guide, exile Simian Spirit Guide to cast Anarchist, and have it target Haunting Misery, which you use on your opponent for the win.
>5. Get 5 mana, have a Conjurer’s Bauble in play, use Balustrade Spy on yourself, then Bauble the Songs of the Damned on top of your library, cast the Songs, and then complete the combo with the Morgue Theft and Anarchist stuff.
That's surprising, I didn't know there were people who play Limited formats exclusively.
Standard and Modern is ridiculously expensive to play if you intend on staying on the tournament scene with a high tiered deck. People can go "It's just three or four hundred" but that's three to four hundred dollars spent on paper with ink that I will most likely see little returns on (this part is more concerning Standard) unless I win tournaments consistently and get prize payouts.
Legacy, pfft, don't even get me started on how much of an entry barrier there is for that format. You'd have to climb over a fence to get within walking distance of that barrier.
Limited is best for me. It's cheap, it doesn't require me to buy anything other than to enter, and there's a chance that even if I lose I can walk away making more money than I walked in with if the pulls are within my favor.
Used to play Modern last year (post-BBE bannings Jund) in prep for Modern Masters but kinda lost any and all chances to play due to work. Been playing EDH lately and it seems more fun to play but I've had some run-ins with 1v1 builds (my Kaalia deck is slow in 1v1) and so far I haven't won much. Planning to make a multiplayer Exalted-themed Derevi/wizard deck because of that stupid 1v1 banlist. Musing on whether or not I should invest on a 1v1 Erebos control. Minako Kotobuki isn't related to my post but do I love her a lot.
Is monoblack control a thing in Modern?
Is battle of wits viable in EDH?
Is it minimum 100 or exactly 100 cards.
>Is battle of wits viable in EDH?
>exactly 100 cards.
give link for the 2hus
Do you like ruining cards?
I think it's a good thing I never sold my playset of Bitterblossoms and I'm probably planning not to do so as long as I'm alive and/or in no need of quick cash.
Probably lurking in the buyfag thread
Urza and Mishra obviously.
Most effective was my affinity deck.
Favorite was my sunburst/bringer deck that I cant find. By turn 2-3 I was bringing out 5/5+ monsters
I was mirrodin block when I started playing so my cards are a bit old now
Current fav is a blue control deck.
I tend to not have multiples of the same card very often since i don't usually buy individual cards.
Vendalken shackles everywhere Synod sanctum and safe haven to combo with them.
Thieving magpies(dont have alot of long term drawing options that i can abuse for several turns. if you have better PLEASE tell me so that i can look for em)
Quicksilver fountain and Illusionary terrain for manalocking
Vedalken masterminds for bouncing, preferably my own permanents like the terrain to reset the cumulative upkeep, but once aether is in town I can just shut down any new attackers.
Wall of Vapor to block anything too big for shackles to steal.
Isocron scepters and lots of 2 man counterspells/boomerang/echoing truths.
And a sharding sphinx and Memnarch to hold onto for once I've built up enough land to afford them.
I notice that planeswalkers tend to rape me since they were slightly before my time so I need to adapt alot of my decks so that I can stop them.
There's a couple janky way to do it, my favorite being spawnsire and 200 of any one of the legendary eldrazi
But it says exactly 100 cards. Which makes battle of wits instantly non-achievable.
Seeing as I'm a poorfag I got myself a Balustrade spy dredge deck and Opaless affinity starring Ravager and disciple, for EDH I got my Ruric punisher and Azusa of no fun.
Working on getting myself a Death&Taxes.
If you're playing without established sideboard rules, Spawnsire of Ulamog and 100+ copies of either Kozilek or Ulamog will do the trick, you should probably go read Spawnsire.
Just a brief thought about what you're saying with both Planeswalkers and Thieving Magpie, the general strategy of cards has changed a bit since they started printing Planeswalkers. We used to get incrimental card advantage in (blue) control decks by using cards like Thieving Magpie, Jushi Apprentice, or most classically Ophidian. However that form of card advantage now generally comes from Planeswalkers. The most obvious examples usually have been called Jace (in particular Jace Beleren and Jace the Mind Sculptor) but other Planeswalkers can generate incrimental advantage in ways that isn't as obvious as just drawing an extra card each turn. If you are willing to work on trading with people or maybe purchasing some singles and updating your decks you could almost definitely get your hands on a few Jace Belerens (you can find them for about $6 cash or trade apiece) which could easily replace your Thieving Magpies.
Cubing is way cheaper in the long-run and its variety and interaction is unparalleled. People should really give it a try.
>mfw trying to decide pack 1 pick 1 between Tangle Wire, Wurmcoil Engine, Demonic Tutor, Cryptic Command, Wrath of God, and Koth of the Hammer.
In what universe is that not just a snap DT pick? The only other card there I might consider taking is Cryptic Command.
Windmill slam the Tangle Wire. Most of the other cards are nice but Tangle Wire goes into like everything and is gamebreakingly strong.
Cryptic Command is a trap. 1UUU is difficult and you want to be flexible with p1p1.
Koth and try to go Mono red.
Clear Demonic Tutor. What is wrong with you?
You haven't gone DEEP in cube until Azure Mage is playable.
I don't think you two understand how broken Tangle Wire is.
What the fuck /tg/, you've got a whole board in which you can rant
I know exactly how good Tangle Wire is. It's fantastic but it's not a great topdeck and doesn't really do anything except extend the developmental stage of the game a little bit (and if your opponent has things on the board too, it's really mediocre)
Demonic Tutor is 2 mana worse than the best card in your deck at all times. In your opener it helps smooth out development, in the mid-game it can get your best card and let you get to the endgame in the best position, and in the endgame it's fucking ridiculous as a top-deck.
Extending the developmental stages of a game is all you need to win the game in a proper deck. Even if the opponent has things on the board, the effect is not symmetrical at all and drafting around to break the symmetry is really easy.
Demonic Tutor is great but mtg has gotten to the point that using up 2 mana is huge. There has been so many times that Demonic Tutor has been a terrible topdeck for a player since that player is getting beaten down by a large army of creatures and can't afford to pay for both the tutor and the answer. That said, Demonic Tutor is still ridiculous and my second choice here.
Probably an easy wurmcoil, unless he cube is very combo heavy. Most gets either cant pass a wurmcoil, or cant beat one
A format where there are far more efficient ways of mana ramp.
>Extending the developmental stages of a game is all you need to win the game in a proper deck
It also can help your opponent, there are a bunch of ways in which Tangle Wire isn't that insane. Tangle Wire's can be a much better card than Demonic Tutor, but its P1P1, I have no idea where my deck is going and whether or not the cards will be available to draft the tangle wire deck or not. Too many questions, Demonic Tutor does one thing: turn into your best card.
Wurmcoil is my second choice. I can't imagine the deck that doesn't play Wurmcoil. Few cards answer it, and if you attack once you're ahead. Tangle wire is a very close third, and in all honesty might be the pick over Wurmcoil depending on the cube.
Good luck--the perfect Faerie deck is close to $900
Comparing the two, I think Tangle Wire has a higher ceiling but also a lower floor. I imagine the stronger the cube is, the more correct Tangle Wire is over Demonic Tutor, as the mana gets tighter.
And as for the Tangle Wire deck, you don't have to build around it. You could put it in nearly any deck and have the non-symmetrical effect do wonders.
And no aggro deck would want to play Wurmcoil.
The "stronger" the cube, the better DT is, it's always slightly worse than the best card in your deck, so it gets better and better.
The lower the curve, the better Tangle Wire is, unless they put permanents out too, in which case it's really only OK.
And plenty of aggro decks can get to 6. I think the cube you're used to is really weird, it sounds like it's a tap out cube.
No aggro deck goes to 6 mana unless something has gone terribly terribly wrong. A proper aggro deck runs only a few 4 drops and maybe a 5 drop in Thundermaw Hellkite or Zealous Conscripts but most of the time, those are too slow to even make the cut. That's how most cubes nowadays are like anyways. No aggro drafter would even think about putting Wurmcoil into their deck. They win through a critical mass of 1 drops.
The stronger the cube, the more efficient you have to be with your mana, which is why Tangle Wire allows you to snowball out of control earlier and wins you the game. Tutoring for a Sol Ring for example isn't the strongest thing to do in a strong cube, even those Sol Ring is easily the strongest card in cube. As cubes get stronger, it's less about the strongest card you draft but how well and efficiently everything comes together.
This isn't true in MODO cube.
Sol ring is only good turn 1 and maybe turn 2. DT is the best card in your deck, and that card changes. You wouldn't DT for Sol ring, but you might for supreme verdict, or a land or really anything.
It is also the only answer to turn 0 sneak and show.
It's not 100% complete (missing card art here and there) and I can't guarantee balance, just that it's a bit more balanced than it was.
MODO cube is terribly designed and laughed upon by basically every cube community. It's a "dragon cube" slanted way too much toward late game haymakers and isn't really representative of most cubes.
And Sol Ring is easily the best card in any cube and most pro's agree that it's above even Black Lotus and Ancestral Recall. At worst, it's mana and at best it's unbeatable. It's win rate on turn one is even higher than turn one Library of Alexandria.
>People are bitter that Bitterblossom got unbanned
I started Magic during the Innistrad Block so I dunno any of the cards before that. So what's wrong with Bitterblossom?
>plenty of aggro decks can get to 6
Statistically speaking, given 16 lands in an aggro deck, the average turn by which you get 6 lands is turn 10. If the game is still ongoing by turn 10, the aggro deck already lost. If the aggro deck is aiming to get to turn 10, then it's probably not a good aggro deck.
6 drops don't belong in aggro decks.
it dominated standard and block during its time, and shortly thereafter some 4-c and 5-c faeries decks were extremely popular in Extended. The card was banned at the outset of Modern because the memory of its dominance was fresh in everyone's minds and everyone who's angry about it being unbanned are either still hung up on it and dont realize how strong other decks in modern are, or they just wish they owned more copies than they do because its going to shoot up to $50 or $100 very quickly unless it gets a reprint very soon.
Bitterblossom makes a 1/1 flier every turn at the cost of 1 life. 1/1's are a bitch to deal with if you aren't running pyroclasm or have trample. They will stop your 4/5 tarmogoyf flat, so you essentially prevented 3 damage, and they can switch to being on offensive with a dangerously low clock at will.
Because there are so few notable enchantments in modern, there is not a lot of ways already in people's boards to hit Bitterblossom itself, even if your deck can kill the fairies it spawns. And when you do try to snuff it out, your removal gets countered by mana leak / spellstutter sprite (which is powered up by bitterblossom's tokens) / or scion of oona (because bitterblossom is itself a "Tribal Enchantment - Faerie", so it now has shroud)
It's already 90$. ;_;
>card sells dirt cheap because nobody is gonna play it on said format
>card price suddenly skyrocketed and people regretted why they didn't bought all 4 of these card when it was still cheap?
I guess that's what I get for falling asleep for half a day. I guess I'm making more money on Standard speculation than Modern these days anyways, even a trash set like Born of the Gods has a couple cards I think are worth picking up 5 or 6 playsets of while they're cheap.
I love wizards for printing Abrupt Decay.
Just like anywhere else, price is based on supply/demand. after the release of Modern Masters, Modern has become an extremely popular format (high demand), and more players are trying to play modern than ever played Standard during Lorwyn Block, meaning fewer bitterblossoms are around than can possibly meet that demand. The most interesting swing was the day after Modern Masters was released, Tarmogoyf went up in price by $10, because the increased interest (demand) for Modern staples from the MM hype far exceeded the actual number of new Tarmogoyfs put onto the market.
>/a/ talking about MtG
Now I've seen everything.
How do I gut gud in draft?
/a/ has always been the best place on 4chan to discuss MtG.
If you're a fan of /ck/ you can try drafting BREAD.
Or since you're obviously one of us, try drafting (neck)BEARD.
For a bread strat, you want to try to play a slower game where you keep your opponent's threats under control and your life total in a safe position, then start playing larger creatures than they can handle and overwhealm them. For the beard strat, you want to draft a large number of cheap and efficient creatures to get as much damage through early as possible, with a small amount of removal, tricks, and burn to reach the last bit of damage once they try to stabilize. Bombs (gigantic usually rare/mythic creatures) are top picks for either decks because they always demand an immediate answer or else win the game by themselves, and in a format where everyone is limited by the resources available in the drafting phase, demanding that kind of response is a very reliable way to steal a game.
To add to the other anon, knowing the set / card pool is very important as well. He listed BREAD, but if you're in triple Theros limited, there's very little removal to draft. To further that example, this is what lead the the whole 'voltron' style, because people knew they could get away with all in on one big dude. There simply aren't the usual cards to answer it in the set.
There's also knowledge of things like the average P/T of most creatures. If there are many 2 power dudes running around, your x/3 size blocker can prove very effective (this was the case in M14 limited.)
I'm barely average, though, so try to get advice / knowledge from people you know or streamers.
And what cards would those be, anon?
Other than trading Xenagod for Brimaz (White Weenies ho), I had no idea what acquisitions to pursue yesterday.
Right now I'm excited about getting Spirit of the Labyrinth and Courser of Kruphix at their current market price. I think Spirit will go up and down with the popularity of Death and Taxes in both Modern and Legacy, and Courser of Kruphix (especially foils) will be in high demand for Azusa-type EDH decks, and since this is from a small set that's drafted TTB, the supply of these cards will be lower than equally demanded cards from Theros (say like Swan Song).
>Playing R/G beats & burn with my partner running W/U evasion, buffs, & tricks
>every single opposing team has a black component running multiples of Grey Merchant, Scholar of Athreos, Fate Unraveler, and Servant of Tymaret - all of which have 4 toughness or regen
>drown in doubletap life drain and curse our failure to open countermagic for the W/U while futilely going 2:1 with my Lighting Strikes and Magma Jets
Ugh. Nothing makes me hate this game like a degenerate metagame in a casual limited format.
Oh yeah. Spirit looks like sideboard utility at the worst, and can probably be plugged into a regular white weenies build. Speaking of which, I need a playset of Acolyte's Reward to putz around with.
My first impression of Courser wasn't too strong, but it does have the feel of an EDH piece.
Courser also has a very outside chance at Constructed play, especially if there's a Theros Block Constructed GP, because he goes perfectly into a GRx midrange deck with Anger of the Gods and scry lands. In another Standard format he'd also be excellent but with so many over-the-top devotion decks running around he's probably not quite what the green decks are looking for in Standard, but even that could change once Journey comes out.
What's the MTG equivalent of this piece of shit?
>cannot be special summoned
>remove from game and special summon 2 copies of it anyway
I have no idea how the YGO rules lexicon works, but my best guess is probably this guy.
Birthing Pod is even more prone to abuse, since it's reusable and way more flexible, but it's not a creature itself.
Because you're gonna go LoGH on this and make the Brothers' War a film and then adapt the Weatherlight saga to series format.
If you make it to a spinoff chronicling Time Spiral then you get to just go apeshit with spinoff shows for the different planes. I for one want to see the merry adventures of a bunch of Zendikar explorers as they gradually end up in a Lovecraftian tale.
Its not as strong as it is in YGO because it can't attack the turn its dropped
> the merry adventures of a bunch of Zendikar explorers as they gradually end up in a Lovecraftian tale.
Sorin eats them in the last episode just to piss off Nisa.
How can it not attack when it has haste.
What is haste?
You know what.
This could totally be a card.
Not so much as is (a green flier for a single pip of colorless lolwat), but an aggro weenie that denies draw step.
It's like playing with fire. You shouldn't, but you want to.
nevermind i'm tired
Yeah I guess a somewhat more balanced card could work, this one is green because Wind is green in YGO and it's colorless because you don't need to sacrifice anything due to its star number.
went to three with friends, who are far better that I am. one of them went 1st 4th 1st, and another second. I managed to place 3rd the third one.
those are my first events, and I managed to do 3-3, 1-2-2, and 2-1.
Pulled a B/W god, two temples, and a foil Elspeth. with like 50 packs or so
is Kiora gonna go up or down in price? Got her in a price pack and Im wondering if it's best to hold onto it.
It does need to say THAT Bird From That Other Card Game is green if you want to make it have a colorless casting cost yet still have a color.
Since its very unlikely you pulled an Atheros out of a Theros or Born of the Gods pack, you should probably make a mental note that for Magic players, the color Blue is abbreviated to the letter U, and Black uses B. This will help your MtG Jargon literacy immensely.
She will go down, probably to about $10 for her duration in Standard and then to about $5 after that. If you aren't going to put her in an EDH deck you should probably bail out ASAP.
figured. newwalkers are all doomed to the bargain bin
Eh, Pyromaster is seeing play in Modern Jund lists.
That's not really true, Kiora's major issue is that even if you use her +, she still dies to Lightning Bolt, which substantially hurts her playability in Modern. She's not looking great for Standard right now because even the creature decks are playing a pretty unfair game, and other cards that cost 4 mana (Master of Waves, Desecration Demon, Polukranos) just tower over her in board impact. Both of her abilities are good, its just not the right time for her right now.
Yeah but that's just exploiting the existing rules structure.
Technically the game uses a color marker now instead of the text reminder, so that'd be a nice little green circle on the left end of the type bar.
yes, I meant black/blue
Phenax, God of Destruction
Ive only been playing for a month
Yes and no.
While LiliVeil is pretty much the sweet spot mix of early game playability and functional utility, there's a smattering of other walkers that are no joke.
With Nacatl back on the scene I'm going to bring Ajani Vengeant back into the sideboard of Boros as additional means of fragging 3t bodies.
Its all good, I'm just trying to help make things clear, when you make an error like that in a text post its hard for anyone to know what you really meant so its important to know how to write in MtG-speak.
I also got a Phenax in my sealed pool, he won 4 of my 6 matches for me.
How about Proliferate/Rings of Brightearth/Doubling Season tricks?
Do you have the image on that mat?
>Aggro kiddies mat at kikerite shaman getting the axe.
You got nactal and bitter.
>Being THIS pleb
True eternal players play like men.
They use furry trap mat and bara sleeves.
This way, the gayfag/furfag of the group is distracted and can't think, while the rest cringe out and can't think either.
>caring about losing DRS
>ever playing BB
If you were an aggro player all you saw was that Nacatl's back and life's great.
I don't play Modern anymore but you guys think Jund will still be the deck to beat after this change? I mean, Scavenging Ooze still exists and there's more graveyard hate out there. Graveyard hate might be sided out for some better Jund tricks IMO.
It's free on OCTGN
Jund wasn't the deck to beat before the change, large Modern tournaments have featured a lot of Birthing Pod, Splinter Twin, Control, robots, and Junk midrange as well as Jund, even though its still been the most popular deck. Jund will probably survive the loss of DRS since the deck can just find the next most powerful card it wasn't playing before, and we'll also probably see the revival of Tribal Flames Zoo and UB and 5-c Faeries with the unbans. The modern format is going to be even more diverse than before, and there probably wont be one clear 'deck to beat' that just owns the format more than any other.
>bought a set for less than a dollar the day before
Time to buy a playset myself before some people jack this shit up. I also hate myself for impulse buying when banlist bullshit like this happens but hey, at least I didn't sell off my Bitterblossoms when nobody was playing them anymore and it kind of makes me feel smug.
You're worse than /tg/ at magic.
Any of you do 1v1 EDH? I kind of find the concept weird since EDH was built and meant for multiplayer in the first place anyway IMO.
I'd like to but all my friends are multiplayerfags and griefs anyone with a competitive EDH deck.
I've got two decks I'm working on, a mostly complete W/B recursion ETB/LTB for multiplayer, and a U/B nofun with Dralnu, Lich Lord for 1v1 that I just started.
Vaguely related, but I kind of just resent how Japan makes AKB48-based card sleeves while Sphere doesn't get any. I'd totally buyfag on 100 Minako-themed sleeves.
welp, time to buy a playset.
For what purpose.
legacy a shit
>Pull foil Elesh Norn from my first pack back when Innistrad was just arriving
>2.5 years later, still fiddy bux
In other news, I should really get back to trying to make my Horizon set not shitty.
>implying that's possible
I've had a playset since last year and not planning to sell it ever.
You're telling me that I'm paying 6 mana for removal that dies to removal. Why?
I think hope that's an older version of the cards and that I remembered to add it to an updated one. If not, that'll be my first change.
I need to figure out how to not have every card be legendary, as is always the falling down point of every custom set based on something else.
AT LEAST IT DOESN'T DIE TO DOOM BLADE AMIRITE
holy shit, I have those deck boxes and I love them. If that gundam back there is one of those plastic model kits, you are my black compatriot.
You could always run a bunch of fodder creatures with a couple of keywords or effects similar whatever archetype your legendaries fill. For example, if you're including the Tres Espana sports team captains as legendaries, make a few cards like "pinch hitter" or "backup pitcher" with similar (albeit weaker) mechanics and/or colors so they would conceivably go into a deck centered around the legendaries.
The most likely thing would be each block getting its own season/OVA set telling the story of the block, because that way they can show all the spells and events on cards and hype up previews a whole new way.
Invasion block anime never. ;_;
Go away Josh
>implying legacy isn't the best format
Oh, that's not bad. I'll be sure to do something similar.
I don't know why I thought these were a good idea.
I don't think I will remember it again, but other day /tg/ wrote down their personalities and I totally agreed with. iirc:
>Tsundere, more tsun
>Tsundere, more dere
>Ara ara milf
This is where I don't remeber well:
>Playful(?) hyperactive type
>Quiet Ayanami type
>Clingy and moe
Rakdos bad end:
Rakdos kill you for fun
Rakdos good end:
Rakdos and you kill for fun, together
Azorius good end:
Azorius and you kill the fun, together
I feel like there's gotta be some infinite combo with Aspida, but I can't think of it at the moment.
Equip to Crypt Rats, make Crypt Rats indestructible, have more life than opponent, add one black mana to start off with, win game.
Pestilence and any indestructible equipped creature work just as well.
T1: Land, Llanowar Elf.
T2: Land, Crypt Rats.
T3: Land, Aspida.
T4: Land, Equip, swing, answer with Withstand death.
Still it needs 4 cards and 4 lands while having effective 11 cards if you played second.
There are some other ways, like using Stuffy Doll with untap combo, or Reckless Embermage with Doubling Season.
>Reminder that MTG Student Council will never get a continuation or an anime.
It hurts to live.
I'm getting this on a playmate, should be arriving any day now.
Boros is also a GET FIT athlete-warrior with a weakness for cute things and a raging ladyboner for hunting Dimir.
Selesnya believes in unconditional sharing within the community - and that includes your body, so get to populating before she knocks your block off with a watering can.
Gruul is a derp with no long term memory, but is crazy loyal if you give her good food, a warm place to nap, and regular exercise.
I'd rather have the Chandra manga continued.
Gruul also needs her daily raw play
and selesnya needs her daily wet watering
>wanting chuunishit instead of cool people playing mtg without HEART OF THE CARDS bullshit
If I wanted to watch nerds play a card game I'd go to my FLGS more often.
For someone like me who wants to get in to MTG, how would I go about doing so? I'm assuming buy a trial deck and then just lots of booster packs. Is there any way to play the game online to test out decks?
Cockatrice is free and is a pretty solid thing for deck testing. Honestly, once youve got the rules down, drafting is a decent way to build a collection, although your first couple of drafts are probably going to be shit.
>implying your FLGS has cute girls playing MTG doing cute things with cards
Cockatrice is down for ages, last time I played, I used octgn to play.
Drafting is also an option on Cockatrice, so you can practice there without sinking any money into it beforehand.
Probably the best way to get into the game is to go to your LGS (Local Game Store, normally a card-shop or hobby shop) and mainly watching games being played, while asking questions.
There are free-online MTG simulations or you can certainly go to Steam and pick up a copy of Duels of the Planeswalkers - 2014 if you want a taste of what different colours specialize in.
Buying trial decks is good for starting out.
Woogerworks maintains it now, so it's back, and they're keeping the sets up to date with per-releases.
Google "woogerworks", they keep a server up and it's pretty populated.
My LGS gives out the color-specific trial decks for free to new players, it should be the same everywhere else, I think.
There's various programs for deckbuilding and playtesting online, you just have to do some digging - Wizards keeps burying them with threats of legal action and such.
If you can find friends that play the game already, that's probably your best option. The rules are extremely intricate and take a bit of getting used to, but once you have a good grip it's like reading computer code.
Sealed events at local game shops are great for expanding your collection and learning to build an efficient deck from scratch, but inexperienced players run the risk of playing against tryhard regulars that might very well lie and mislead you for the sake of a match win.
Once you have a collection going, boosters are generally a trap. Buy singles online if you desperately want or need something specific, and go to scheduled sealed/draft events if you want to open packs.
Get an intro deck, find some friendly regulars to durdle with, and gradually build up your competence with the game.
Bonus points if you can find someone who's good at playing the game but not up their ass in the competitive scene to help mentor you through the more intricate stuff, but that's if you're like me and you're compelled to seek out games where people are playing as good as they can with their decks tuned as optimal as possible.
It could be casual jank shit but it's ok as long as it's the best casual jank shit you can conceive! Casual play is no excuse to not build a deck that functions like a well oiled machine!
Follow one of the decklists of your choice from this list
Order the cards off of Ebay or TCGplayer.com
Why are you trying to turn him into a faggot Spike so soon?
really? I didn't know that, I remember reading something about some legal issues, and they had to close because hasbro>cockatrice.
Nice to know, cockatrice was a hell lot easier to play with.
>implying he'll Spike before he just ragequits due to not knowing how to work a Standard tourneygrinder deck
But yeah, I hate people who do that shit.
I've got Cockatrice working now. I suppose now I have to learn how to deck build. Before that I should probably learn the rules as well. I've only played this once before about 3 years ago. I don't remember jack shit.
I could look into this, but I feel like before I put some money into the game, I should get a good grip of it by playing it online. That could take months though. It took me like three months to get good enough to become an admin on DN when I was in to YGO.
>I want to learn to play M:tG, how do
>hey, check out these SCG netlists, now go blow $400 on whichever one you like
There are so many things about this recommendation that are awful.
Netdecks don't do shit if the player doesn't know how to operate them, and a new player sure as hell isn't going to get advice from an LGS regular that has seen the deck and assumes they're either an idiot or a tryhard.
Not to mention that those lists are just what happen to be good in the very narrow range of RtR-Theros Standard - and, regardless of what effects BotG or Journey into Nyx have on the format, half the deck will be rotated out and obsolete a year from now.
Don't ruin the joy of starting up for him. Let him discover the hell that is local competitive play for himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GadqHggATe8 Here, have some awkward retards explain the rules of MTG to you.
Then what's it going to do for terminate, bolt, huntmaster, and chandra?
Holy shit, it's hard to focus on what they're saying because I'm to busy laughing. Thanks though.
Oh right, I forgot Huntmaster was a thing for lifegain in Jund.
Who is this semen demon?
reading the first few pages of the manga, stormtide leviathan, rewind, wtf, seriously?(How did she got to 12 mana? holy shit.)
Even if they were playing m13 block constructed, those cards are still bad.
If the rumors were true, the student council prez would be my personal bitch.
Control games are usually drawn out and long, also U/W miracles needs a big win-con after the temporal mastery, so it's not that far out. Don't forget, its main purpose was to showcase M13 cards. (I have no idea why Fagtusk wasn't there)
SHEOLDRED IS MOST KAWAII
Just kidding Elesh is 10/10 waifu
Question: Why is Guild Feud not a good card? Play it, fill your deck with fatties and win. I can't believe this OP card is 50 cents, it should be worth much more imo.
>magic the gathering in /a/
>magical girl quest in /tg/
I don't even know anymore
Sorry, but 12 lands is too much even for control. even that UWX control that used aetherling as main wincon doesn't last this long.
Even in m13, she could have cast omniscience with that much mana, also, in the same block there is rancor, thundermaw hellkite, swagtusk, vampire nighthawk, sublime archangel, nocturnus,krenko, primordial hydra...
Because you would literally play nothing for 5 turns. Most decks wins between turns 3-5. The only decks that goes beyond that are control, and they can easily counter guild feud.
-It too random (you could play around with scry, top & scroll rack, but still need to have more than 1/3 of your deck being big dudes...)
-It also let your opponent get a dude that may or may not kill yours
I use it in my Kaalia EDH, but there I play the two artifacts I said before and also have lots of protection with Avacyn, Gisela, Cauldron of Souls and stuff. To me is just another way to get free creatures on the board.
>No, UW miracles should run rancor, hellkite and fagtusk!
Guild Feud costs 5R. Good luck getting to turn 6.
If your deck is "full of fatties", then it's going to be lacking removal, disruption, or any other potential threat to keep your opponent from stabilizing while your ass is stuck waiting to drop a costly enchantment... and go back to waiting for another turn.
And the best part is, nothing guarantees your opponent won't flip something more useful.
>well look at that, I was wondering if I would get to Erebos this game
>thanks for the card draw m8
>Not playing Omnidoor Thragfire
I never thought I'd say this, but thank goodness for /a/. /tg/ is so fucking stale these days
what? i didn't even imply that. I just listed cards that are better than trying to risk your life with stormtide leviathan and rewind.
Also, miracles deck wasn't good iirc, there was no consistency in the deck(although it was a thing).
That was one of the most badass fucked up decks I ever played against. Even the name was badasss.
I really like Travis Woo's articles, he always brings interesting cheese decks to light and makes them more playable and fun.
>MTG thread on /a/, active for over 20 hours now
>Stays completely on topic
I fuckin' love you /a/, every single one of you...
But back to the topic at hand, is getting into modern worth it? The theros block feels really boring to me, so I haven't built a standard deck, and I don't have the money to competitively play legacy, so I've spent most of my time building modern decks for fun. But nobody in my area plays modern (there's only one shop that does a biweekly tourney, and it's very small), and all my coworkers play EDH. I know WOTC has posted a lot of news recently that they're trying to boost the format, but does the future of modern actually look bright?
Sure, it's pretty cool, and Modern season is approaching with the Pro Tours using the Modern format etc.
The only thing that might hold people back from playing Modern is the high price of some staples and fetchlands, but there are plenty of budget Modern decks that work well enough without them and cost around as much as a mid-high tier Standard deck, pic related. There are other pretty affordable decks like RDW, Pyromancer storm and GW hatebears too.
f you want to start EDH you have the 4 precons that should be still on sale right? (They are really 5, but the grixis one should be sold out everywhere for the damned true-name nemesis. Or you could find somebody that sells the rest of the deck)
I'm pretty sure at least a few people would play if they had the staples, so expect a big influx when the event deck comes out.
I'm thinking of making a damage negation and general redirection deck.
So far I''ve got
Eight and a half tails
COP (probably white but maybe a few others)
Awe strike and some other similar cards
Reverse the sands
The red redirection cards for both sorcery/instants and activated abilities
Your standard blue control stuff.
I got the idea because there's a guy with a goblin deck that usually takes everyone out with him if he's going to die whenever he uses it.(we play alot of multiplayer)
I would not be against turning this into a commander deck since the format seems pretty fun so far the few times i used the Derevi, Imperial tactician Starter deck.
Any suggestions on how to get past golgari leech lord? The fact taht he directly makes you lose life instead of dealing damage makes it a bitch whenever i have to deal with it thanks to my general lack of lifegain.
swords to plowshares, path to exile
>want to make a Splinter Twin deck
>tfw I have no fetchlands
I-It's worth a try, right?
So plenty of places to buy animu sleeves. But why is it deckboxes are sold out everywhere and a bitch to find?
>swords to plowshares
Oh god that card looks like a setup for a dick move with rain of gore.
Rain of Gore only works if the player controls the source that would cause lifegain. Discovered it while making a combo deck with Beacon of Immortality and it, to my eternal sadness.
I suppose so, you have stuff like Serum Visions to fix your draws.
I've put together most of my Modern RDW build.
Without fetchlands my Lavamancers are sometimes starved for fuel early on, but if all goes well they only really need to activate once or twice.
Now I've just got one last problem: is Goblin Guide absolutely necessary?
I could always substitute Rakdos Cackler, since Stormblood Berserkers want that bloodthirst trigger on turn 2....I'm just not sure what to cut.
That's what I was thinking. Use Serum Visions and Sleight of Hand to fix and "free" draw spells like Gitaxian Probe and Street Wraith and Mishra's Bauble to dig. I wish Ponder/Preordain was unbanned though.
I actually already have 2 EDH decks in the works, one's a BUG which is about 90% complete, and the second's a 5-color reaper king which is on its 3rd rebuild now...
>tfw you buy the last grixis commander deck you can find and give it to a coworker, and he gives you the true-name because it's not viable in the deck when he rebuilds it.
Don't fill your deck with too much chaff. Remember, this is a deck with a combo, a way to protect it and a backup plan to hit in with fliers and snapcasters.
I got that deck for a friend, at half the price from a guy that just wanted that merfolk.
I have several EDH decks, every one with animu sleeves. My first EDH was Ur-Dragon, but it was so comboish and easy to do OTKs that I disarmed it and built a Karrthus dragon tribal with the dragons and a Sliver Overlord aggro with the 5-color stuff.
I will keep that in mind. I am going to run 2-3 Remands, Spell Pierces, Spell Snares, and Turn Aside (to protect Pestermite/Exarch/Kiki) along with removal in the form of Pongify or Flame Slash (still deciding on that). Going to sideboard stuff for artifact destruction, bouncing permanents, and sweepers.
Divine Deflection along the new devotion deflection can fit well. I would use Serra ascendant and martyr of sands with felidar sovereign as wincons.
Also test of faith.
You can play the good ol' wards and circle of protections.
Cradle of vitality, vigil for the lost.
Moat, Worship, reverence.
What's good for playing drafts online? Im going overseas for a few years but I want to continue my weekly draft with my friend on fridays
I'm not sure what to do anymore. My friends dropped all non-casual formats (and rarely even play casual formats now either), but I've got so much invested in anime sleeves, Cube, Modern, and an almost complete RTR block playset that it's almost impossible to move to MTGO.
Cockatrice and drafts.in, cock for the client and drafts.in for the drafts.
I love me some BUG. I'm running a BUG +1/+1 counter deck that I've got a clear picture in my head of Mimeoplasm going TTGL should it finally get to take off.
im trying out drafts.in. how does it work? do I send my friend the link to the game I make?
Stick Pariah/Pariah's Shield on a creature with indestructible/Heart of Light and live forever until somebody makes you sac it/gives it -X/-X of course
thanks, trying with a friend but those ai are passing all the good stuff. I guess it's simulating real-life born of the gods drafters at release day.
Don't tell me you don't have a game store nearby.
That's the number of hit points it starts out with. The numbers next to the abilities modify the health of the PW by the given number, one ability per turn at sorcery-speed, and you can't willingly go into negatives.
Creatures can attack them just like a player and burn spells can be pointed at them to deal damage. Once it's got 0 or less health, it dies.
God damn this tread is still alive after a day?
planeswalker cards have been a thing for a while. when did you last play?
Yes, now fuck off if you don't have anything to contribute to the discussion.
Not a good one anyway.
It's loyalty, not HP.
Also you can't target them for burn unless the spell clearly says you can target a PW, instead you hit its controller and apply damage redirection.
This means that Leyline of Sanctity can protect a PW from Lightning Bolt, as an example.
This is also why the new retarded red rare in BotG says it can only target planeswalkers, not players.
LOL! That is exactly what my deck is well. All I can say is make sure you count everything carefully to get all the counters (I almost always miss at least 1 per turn), grab some d20's and look into some of the UG creatures in the bant commander deck.
I'm simplifying it to let anon get a feel for the rules. You didn't teach someone how Reverberate can counter spells the first time they saw the card; you give them a grasp on what's happening in general terms and then let them learn the rest through gameplay.
you can thank that new satyr that copies spells for that.
That said, if that Planeswalker happens to be Gideon, and he's animated himself into a creature, -then- you can aim burn at him.
Though, the problem with that is that both variants of Gideon ignore damage when going dude-mode.
You could, yes, but at the same time if you draw a Cackler later on it ends up being complete crap. Haste is a huge part of what makes Goblin Guide good. Fortunately Goblin Guide isn't (relatively) THAT expensive, and you might end up being able to trade for some. And even then a playset of $10~ cards can be gradually obtained.
Except you're misleading him with the burn comment.
Treating loyalty like it's hit points is somewhat excusable, but I will not let up on the fact that you cannot normally directly burn a PW.
Also lands are colorless with the current exception of Dryad Arbor.
So what does /a/ think of Woo's new (relatively cheap) deck?
What in the cunt.
Pretty sure BG still shits on it even without deathrite to give them reach.
Abrupt Decay is a very powerful card
>white bordered lands
Anyway, dies to the enchantment-wipe which people already sideboard whenever Hexproof comes around and has very few ways to recover from getting Nodes Thoughtseized. Interesting idea, but needs some mana sinks to go with the triple Nykthos.
I think a 1 of Cats Sun is what this deck wants.
I've pretty much got it 99% complete all the way down to the fetches and duals, only thing I have yet to get is a Kalonian Hydra. My only regret now is not having enough space for G->U mana changers like Leafcaller for infinite combos like Vigean Graftmage+Gyre Sage, Mimeoplasm eating Kraj+anything else big with Evolution Vat to multiply the process, Doubling Season need not even apply.
What about Entreat the Angels?
Entreat cannot be cast at instant speed with this deck.
Is there a relatively fun deck in Modern without the need to cast goyfs and other $100 cards? Combo is pretty much dead now. I took a look at that white deck >>101492335 posted and it looks pretty cool to play.
Mono U tron is the most fun deck possible
That's not Boros.
It depends. What do you exactly consider "fun"?
Being the fun police.
Charbelcher deck. I would actually be impressed if you could make it work.
It's a thing.
SLight correction here. You dont actually target a planeswalker for damage generally. You target the player WITH a planeswalker and then once damage is being dealt you can decide to allocate it to the plansewalker. It's a subtle distinction but exploiting rule loopholes can become very handy.
For example even if you give the planeswalker shroud or hexproof so that it cant be targeted by spells or abilities you can still damage the planeswalker via targeting the player with a spell.
What sort of Boros?
Are we talking Lightning Helix
Any sort of Sligh style list.
Fuck, simple Boros Landfall can get there.
Huh. So it is. And 7 lands at that. That... that's weird. I tried proxying one with Simian Spirit Guides, Memnites, Ornithopthers, Mox Opals, Lotus Blooms, and Reshapes along free cantrips and 3 Steam Vents. I didn't like what I saw.
Man I love Time Spiral block for trying weird stuff like this. I wish they would make another block instead of thinking up some new keywords every time.
Time Spiral was amazing in retrospect but a mess at the time.
Well, it's been a good thread. RIP;_;