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Is it true that girls like shounen such as SNK and death note more than actual shoujo stuff?
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>>101434803
I don't know about them, but I love shoujo for some reason.
Even if I'm a guy.
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>>101434803
Some girls may do.
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Fujioshits do, normal girls like shoujo and stay away from shounen. But SNK was always normie stuff.
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replace shoujo male with shounen male and the pic will be accurate.
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I personally love shonen. I can't paying attention to shoujo~
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Jump often panders to female audiences by bishounenifying their characters
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>>101434803
The examples of shounen you gave were pretty "unisex" stuff, having both female and male attractive characters. Try with a more shounen series and you'll notice grills ain't much into it.

Also, just like with "gamer gurls", some females pretend to like shounen in order to get attention.
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>shoujo
>no gigantic sparkly eyes and MASSIVE HANDS
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>>101434803
according to >sankaku
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>>101434803
the girl on the left looks like a mirrored antoinette
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>>101436073
Those are yaoi hands.
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>>101434803
Women liking male-oriented stuff has been a thing for years. Both Star Trek and Gundam had pretty good female bases.
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>>101436253
it explains Gundam Wing
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Is there such a thing as Shoujo Shounen
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>>101435331
Funny, I've known a fair amount of women that liked shounen (Kenshin especially) and weren't into yaoi or anything.
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I can't think of a shouen protag that looked that buff excluding pre-00s stuff
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>>101436500
>Kenshin
Normie shit just like SNK.
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>>101436658
Don't say normie it makes you look silly anon-kun.
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>>101435331
No, normal girls don't read manga that's for sure and shoujo is full of fujoshits
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>>101436818
>>101436954
Manga is just as mainstream in japan as movies and TV.
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>>101437140
we're not talking about japan
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>>101437200
90% of the manga public is in Japan, if you are discussing manga demographics you are talking about japan.
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>>101437571
ok you win
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Well there are a lot more girls who like shonen than boys who like shojo, at any rate.

Of course perceptions in the West may also be a little skewed because frankly most girls who are nerdy enough to like animu and mango tend to also be tomboys to a certain degree.
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Femanon here. I've actually never read shoujo. Can anybody recommend me one?
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>>101434803
Girls mostly get into it to ship male characters together.
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>>101437877
I knew I should have saved all those thisisbait.jpg that are so popular these days.
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>>101437877
Host club, that's about all I know for good shoujo.
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>>101437974
No, I genuinely want recommendations.
>>101438018
Thanks, I'll check.
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>>101436071
Yeah pretty much. It's unlikely any girls are going to be into JoJo, DragonBall or Kenshiro stuff unless they happen to be bara lovers.
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>>101437877
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>>101437877
>Btw I'm a grill

Fuck off
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>>101434803
I think it's just that the most popular manga happen to be shounen. And the majority of either gender like what's popular.

Then there's stuff like Prince of Tennis and Kuroko No Basuke...
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>>101438036
And that is why you should fuck off.
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>>101438075
I trust /a/ more than random google links.
>>101438118
Why?
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>>101438134
It's an /a/ recommended chart.
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>>101438036
>No, I genuinely want recommendations.
Boku No Piko

Or so I wish. It would have been a good shoujo shit like other yaoi manga, but no. Jews have to put it up as hentai, and 2 just threw 1's good story out the window.
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>>101438134
Guess what faggot? >>101438075 is pointing to /a/'s wiki for newfags. Go there. be ashamed by your failure. Never post again, bitch.

You are not prepared.
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>>101438177
>>101438237
Oops. I just saw google and didn't bother to check the rest of the picture. Embarrassing.
>>101438220
I already watched Boku no Pico.
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>>101438134
>I trust /a/ more than random google links.
Did you actually look at that image?

Anyway, you've already gotten a good recommendation. Go watch that first.
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Fujoshit like shounen because the men are better for shipping.

Normalshit girls like shojo. Both have shit taste.
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>>101438075
Why would she search for anime recommendations when she was asking for manga recommendations?
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>>101438334
It's the principle of the matter.
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I really like shoujo for some reason btw i'm a guy.
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>>101438324
No one insults Candy Candy on my watch.
>>101438334
Google manga recommendations.
4th fucking result, no excuses.
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>>101438318
>This was nearly 8 years ago
>over a third of my life
I feel old, it hurts
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>>101438134

No one gives a shit whether you're a girl or not. Stop the attention whoring, and keep on lurking.

Seriously. You "Care more about /a/'s opinion" but haven't been here a week. See the irony?
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>>101438334
Anime is fine too, actually.
>>101438582
I've been here since 2007. Believe it or not.
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>>101438646
I don't believe that for one second, fag.

Unless it's on other boards. But that's not really relevant.
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>>101438646
And you still act like a newfag.
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>>101434803
>shojo image
>male isn't super tall and handsome with super long legs, more defined lips and wider eyes
Nice try, but try again.
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Girls can like shonen because of any combination of the following reasons.

1. Shonen is much more likely to be set in an interesting new world, while shojo tends to take place in school/the real world.
2. Once romance happens, it's not as interesting. In other words, it's the journey that's interesting. With many shojo, you know from the start that the guy and the girl are going to get together. In shonen, it's not as obvious, and thus every scene implying guy/girl have feelings or are developing feelings for each other is much more exciting.
3. They aren't into pretty boy love. Granted, this happens in both genre's, but from what I can tell guys sparkle and are feminized much more in shojo.
4. Shojo is boring.
5. Who the fuck wants to watch/read about misunderstandings and coincidences for 200 chapters. Action and asspulls are a lot more entertaining.
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>>101438361
>>101438454
I know, I was just saying that the picture was faulty .

Also, the /a/ manga recommendation is kind of lacking if you're looking for shoujo manga. There's one chart that lists some shoujo/josei manga, but doesn't really differentiate them. Just saying. She's probably be better off looking elsewhere.
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>>101434803
Feminine normal girls like shoujo. Femanon hambeasts are the only female type that read shounen shits but not just any shounen shits but the kinds with many "good looking" male leads.
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>>101438760
Don't forget about odd proportions and flexibility.
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>>101438237
These recs are shit, they don't even have Madoka Magica.
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>>101438070
>It's unlikely any girls are going to be into JoJo

Ahaha get the fuck out. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>101438134
you shouldn't
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bump
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>>101434803
switch the male roles and you got it right
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>>101435331
Normal girls don't like anime or manga to begin with.
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>>101439889
The male on the left doesn't really look like a shounen male, though.
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>>101439962
look
>>101437140
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>>101440158
He's weak and undesirable, he's a lead shonen character.
The guy to the right is pussy magnet that will fall in love with a humble girl even though pussy is constantly being thrown in his face, shoujo character
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>>101440344
Assuming we're talking about shounen romance, he shouldn't be weak and undesirable, just as generic and average as possible. Also, the female should really look less mature and more cutesy.
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>>101439146
it's pre-madoka, obviously.
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>>101438646
>I've been here since 2007. Believe it or not.
not.
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>>101438646
yeah well ive been here since 1989
what now
huh
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My favorite shoujo is catogorized as shounen. get on my level...
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>>101436658
But the difference is that Kenshin is actually good.
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>>101437877
Kare Kano
fuck off
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>>101440678
Honestly to me it looks like left is anime style and right is western style.
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>>101445530
PFFFFFFT
Kare Kano is fucking awful. The ONLY slightly good thing associated with it were the episodes of the TV show that were directed by Anno. Until the mangaka threw a cunt fit and made him quit because he was telling it better than she could.
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>>101437877
I read Ema Toyama's "I am Here".

It's short, it ends, it was pretty noob-friendly.

I usually just read cute-girls-doing-cute-things.
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>>101434803
Pretty sure this picture is more accurate.
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>>101436459
That's like asking if there's such a thing as girl-boys.


Wait, fuck.
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There are a lot of ostensibly shounen manga that try to appeal a lot to female readers like Kuroko no Basket and Black Butler. What are the shoujo equivalents of those manga, though?
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>>101446395
Immortal Rain is a shoujo with a lot of shounen influences. Other than that, maybe shoujo with male leads, like Last Game.
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>>101436459
Kono oto btomare.
It's supposed to be a shounen but it gives a very distinct shoujo feel except when it comes to the character design.

I really really like it.
One of those rare tsunderextsundere romance. It melts my heart.
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>>101446395
Sabagebu. Getting an anime directed by Minami-ke/Love Lab's director. It's nearly indistinguishable from your usual cute girls doing fun things story.
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>>101446339
What I got from this picture
>Girls like noses.
>Boy hate noses, but they like mental retardation..
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>>101446563
>>101446395
I think it's more common for shounen to have shoujo influences (art style, tropes, etc) than the other way around. Probably because there are more women writing shounen than men writing shoujo (I would think anyway).

>Kono oto Tomare
This looks promising, thanks anon.
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>>101446395
Aria has cute butts.
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>>101446683
Pretty sure a good number of shoujo authors are men writing under a female pseudonym. While shounen manga are the most popular manga in general, the shoujo sphere is the most prolific with the highest turnout.
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>>101434803
>Shounen side has slightly more accurate proportions but even worse anatomy and posing
>shounen side has no auras nor retarded mascots
>shoujo side male cannot crush a watermelon between his palms
>shoujo side is not plastered with unreasonably insane amounts of tone
How unrealistic.
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>>101439158
Did you perhaps miss out the part where he says
>unless they happen to be bara lovers.
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>>101446952
Shounen side female doesn't have giant red pimples on her exposed skin either.
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>>101447021
That's seinen, for otaku exclusively, from my experience.
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>>101438646
And yet you still behave like a fucking newfag. Congrats on being the cancer that's ailing /a/.
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>>101437877
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>>101434803
Why is shoujo girl such a modest lady of great virtue while shounen girl is a slut?
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>>101446395
Natsume Yuujinchou seems to have quite notable amount of male fans.
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I read both, mostly shounen and seinen but i do read shoujo occasionally, I used to read mainly shoujo when I was younger though. I used to not like all the unneeded fan service in the majority of shounen. Now I hardly notice it half the time and fine some manga and anime hard to tell whether it is created with males or females in mind for the target audience. For example I thought that Engaged to the unidentifyed side note I am 70% sure they are going to be ninjas was aimed towards girls but then the start song is kind of raunchy. I think my taste in manga is pretty varied some of my favorites for each category are:
Shounen/seinen
>Franken Fran
>Berzerk
>Oyasumi Punpun (still reading)
>Parasyte
then for shoujo
>Kaichou wa Maid-sama
>Ouran high host club
>fruits basket
>kimi ni todoke
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>>101446683
>>101446792
It makes sense that it would go both ways. Series that reach a certain popularity level tend to draw in other demographics regardless of who the intended audience is (SnK, Basugay, Sword Art Online, etc.), so I can understand if there are authors who want to expand their sphere of readers by incorporating elements from more than one demographic.

Saikano comes to mind as a good example of a manga that succeeds in using elements of more than one demographic to convey its plot elements properly.

>>101446952
>>101447021
Both sides are completely unrealistic because they're intended to pander to a certain demographic's preferences. I won't say one's better than the other because they're both problematic in their own ways. I don't particularly want my men and women to look like delicate twigs, but I'm not really into making high school kids look 21 when they're really 16.
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>>101447092
Oh fuck, I was reading that yesterday and I forgot it was shoujo.
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>>101434803
>SNK and death note
>Shounen

2/10 made me respond
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>>101446395
Maybe shoujo with male mcs?
Otomen looks like made for guys who like reading shoujo like me, 3d Kanojo as well, Ore Monogatari.

>>101447224
They aren't shounen?
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>>101436459
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>>101436174
Shoujoshit has them too.
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>>101447224
They are absolutely shounen, or are you just being retarded?
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>>101447265
Oh shit, I completely forgot about Durarara. That shit appeals to both genders.
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>>101447238
>Otomen
>Latest Release(s)
>c.15 by S2scans (473d ago)
FUCK
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>>101447265
Aoi Bungaku was great.
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Fujoshits do who are a minority. Normal young girls enjoy shoujo.
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>>101438946
>Feminine normal girls don't like anime and manga. Femanon hambeasts are the only female type that read shounen and shoujo shits but not just any shounen or shoujo shits but the kinds with many "good looking" male leads

Fixed, hambeast.
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>>101447265
beck? ttgl? cool story..
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>>101447331
It's released in my country so I'm buying it.
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>>101446339
No wonder the left slut is so ugly.
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>>101447224
They both ran in Shounen magazines. Remember, it's a demographic, not a genre.
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>>101437877
Fuck off, you cancerous whore.
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>>101447429
U wot
Gou is incredibly cute, much better than moeblob Rikka whose only qualities are the butt and the feet.

>>101447388
Mononoke and Mushishi aren't female aimed either, I guess the idea was to present good works outside the usual "for girls".
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>>101447331
It's published in my country. I have read it all to the very end.
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>>101447238
Otomen is so great, I've actually only read the first volume because mad man had a huge sale and sold a bunch of manga for $2-5 so I brought a shit load and otomen was pretty much the only one I liked. Asuka is such a qt 3.14
>>101447265
>princess princess
that shit was so gay.
Also I never noticed Angel beats! was directed towards girls. No kyou kara maou?
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Is it gay to read shoujo and self insert as the female lead if you're a guy?
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>>101447496
I'm sorry for your shit taste. Rikka is much cuter than that ugly whore.
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>>101447537
Otomen is made for you anon. Just read it now.
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>>101447537
Self-inserting as the girl is never gay.
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>>101447578
Not even in a yuri manga?
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>>101447537
Homoromantic maybe. Shoujo is rarely sexual, from what I've cared to see.
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>>101447599
>Shoujo is rarely sexual

Huh? I thought it was either sparkles and rainbows or smut borderline H. At least that's my experience.
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Pretty sure the demographic label doesn't make a damn difference 30% of the time.
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>>101447537

The nature of fiction is to imagine the perspectives of different people. Putting yourself in the perspective of a young girl should not challenge your own gender and sexual identity, and in fact if you have trouble relating to a character who isn't similar to you, that's when you have something weird about you.

On the other hand, if you get REALLY excited about being a young girl falling in love with cute guys, well maybe you're a bit LGBT.
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>>101447599
You've care to see the wrong stuff, then. Shoujo smut is a genre unto itself.
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>>101447707
That's also how I get it, either super duper pure : they take forever just to hold hand, or just downright smutty. A bit like breats size in shounen either flat of gigantic with nothing in between.
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>>101447728
*On the other hand, if you get REALLY excited about being a young girl falling in love with cute guys, well maybe you're a bit of a humongous faggot
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>>101447728
>On the other hand, if you get REALLY excited about being a young girl falling in love with cute guys, well maybe you're a bit LGBT.

I-I see...
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>>101446161
>I am Here
Fuck that manga. She keeps saying she's 'just' your normal highschool student who has no 'charismatic' appearance yet I see her as the most beautiful in her class.
Dem self-insertion.
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>>101446161
I love that the "nice" guy won for once. Too bad the author went on and made some shitty smut manga with generic badboy #13634
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>>101447395
>>101447511
>Manga is literally dead and looked down upon where I live.
Feels bad man. I've yet to come across a place selling manga.
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>>101447961
Nice guys are boring (except Makoto).
Manchildren are the best..
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>>101448035
Lucky you cannot purchase things upon the intert.
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>>101448055
My nigga.
>>101448065
Internet, shit fuck.
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>>101448065
I live in the middle of nowhere. Shipping is a bitch.
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>>101447331
Have you actually checked online?
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>>101448055
>>101448105
Makotofags please leave. He's more boring than your average generic nice guy.
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>>101448110
I live is fucking rural Australia, my toilet is out fucking side. Get over it and buy in large amounts at a time.
>>101448158
He's also a huge dork, you forgot that. Absolute perfection.
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>>101448262
His huge manly figure combined with his maternal personnality turns me on so much.
I wish he's going to inspire some quality husbando in future shoujo works.
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>>101448379
Put the mc from Nyaruko aas shounen.
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>>101448396
And shoujo?
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>>101448386
Couldn't agree more. In a way Gamagoori kind of reminds me of him. I don't know what it is but there is something about big guys being cute that just hit's me straight in the kokoro.
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>>101447429
Fite me. Gou is cutest KyoAni girl.
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>>101447496
>Free!
>Aimed at girls

Anon, its obviously for the gays
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>>101448527
It's ok, there is nothing bad with liking things for girls.
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Can we have a shoujo recommendation thread*

I recommend Ao Haru Ride
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>>101448725
I'm looking forward to the anime.

I hope Touma gets a decent amount of screentime. ;_;
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I just wish shoujos could have manlier looking husbandos as opposed as the usual underfed ones.
I wish they could look like in sengoku basara or even Gintama...
But maybe that makes me an entry level barafag ?
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>>101448725
I recommend :
Otomen
Kono Oto Tomare
Crimson Hero
The beginning of Kimi Ni Todoke
The beginning of Skip Beat
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>>101448812
I know what you mean, I prefer something in-between bara and bishounen myself.
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Girls have liked shounen for decades.
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>>101447777

Oh...
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>>101437930
I typed something to search for a certain image with Google, and I got a lot of other results. I wish I didn't do so.
Here, have one of the findings. Share my pain.
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>>101448812
Why would you need them manly when they are absolutely fabulous?
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>>101448520
Shinka is the hottest, cutest and bestest KyoAni girl.
That slut has got nothing on her.
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There's been quite a lot of shoujo threads recently.
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>>101448947
Sengoku Basara have them manly and fabulous.

That's why SB has the best husbandos and is a fujo favorite.
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>>101437930
No, they really do not.
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>>101448158
But he makes my dick erect.
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>>101435646
This

Every time I watch a slice of life or a romantic comedy it's incredibly easy to tell whether a girl or guy wrote it
Girls always write more competent and manlier men
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>>101448725
Finished
>Lovely Complex
>Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
Ongoing
>Akagami no Shirayuki hime
>Inari konkon Koi Iroha

I should've kept a list, because I've forgotten over half of the stuff I've been reading.
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>>101438070
>>101447005
My sister isn't into bara and she loves JoJo. There's more to this stuff than sex appeal, you know.
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>>101449181
Ignore him, he's obviously autistic if he believes that people need to have sexual reasons to like something. A good story is a good story and will appeal to everyone.
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>>101449136
Your list is missing Fruits Basket.
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You gotta have dat omnipandering, which most successful stories have. Male oriented stuff in general, like in movies or videogames, tends to reach a broader demographic, has more genres, etc... . I don't think it'd be too inaccurate to say that there's much less male fans of female-oriented series, than female fans of male-oriented series.
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>>101449104

Well, a girl wrote Toradora
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>>101438070

That's like saying a guy can only like a show with a female main cast (whether it's seinen, shoujo, or josei) if they just want to bone them or make them their waifus
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>>101446395
>Black Butler
>Shounen

Oh god it's true
I don't think that has any male fans at all, though
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>>101449458
Don't forget EH? NANDATTE?
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>>101449104
You can't generalize like that. There are a lot of male authors writing competent male character just like female ones for girl characters.
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>>101434803
In relation to op's picture I don't think art style really varries that much apart from some shoujo stuff looking more old school. I do get that art style can change depending on what target audience you are making it for. Pic related, it's my own shitty example, left being directed towards girls and right being directed towards guys.
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What a quality thread.
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>>101450069

Are you a girl?
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>>101450145
I am a gril
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>>101434803
Little girls like shoujo and dream of a prince to come and rape them. Then they either become fujoshi and read shounen, become megasluts who want daddy's cock in their ass and read Josei, or become megasluts and want to molest schoolgirls and read yuri hime
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>>101435331
Womens fucking LOVE shounen. See Kuroko no Basuke and HXH
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>>101450069
>That shota
Come on, you can do better. He looks like a young Chris from RE. Also, pick a better pose.

>Dat loli
Fix the lips, blush and eye and she'll be passable
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>>101450251
>loli
But she has tits. That's not a loli.
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>>101450249

Even things like Jojo too. Part 5 especially has a huge female fanbase in Japan.
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>>101450251
I only chose these too because they were similar is pose expression and to some extent, style, not because I think they are my best work.
the boy was a cartoony version of a character I have been drawing a lot (pic related). and the Girl was only a 20ish minute practice with a new brush on sai because it was a recommended setting for an acrylic brush.
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>>101450310
>But she has tits. That's not a loli.
http://exhentai.org/tag/female%3Aoppai+loli
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>>101450069

Both of those artstyles look the same to me

Try drawing both a boy and a girl in each artstyle
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>>101450501
Not sure if you can see the differnce but I can. Oh well I tried.
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The best selling manga magazine among nip teen girls is WSJ
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>>101451084
>Kochikame
Males confirmed for gre-
>Nisekoi

Japan a shit
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>>101443040
Because it isn't a shoujo, demographic is not a genre,
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>>101451084
I laughed at Nisekoi thingie. Goddamn, I cannot hold all that shit taste.
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>>101451171
Why teen girls would be interested on haremshit?
In fact, WSJ wants more high school rom-coms for attracting male readers. It seems action/adventure is for girls and romance is for guys
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>>101451266
Well, if Nisekoi's success results in actually good WSJ romance manga being made in the future, I'm cool.
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>>101451266

Action/sports/etc has lots of guy characters and romance/harem has lots of girl characters. So it makes sense.
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>>101451590
Sports also have a lot of male bonding so it's probably another reason why people cry fowl that series like Oofuri and Yowamushi Pedal. But most of the time they're good series in general.
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>>101448520
my nigga
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>>101438454
My nigga.
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>>101434803

>Imitation japanese art

No. The art style isn't even right.
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>>101450249
>KnB
Foujio shit.
>HxH
Normie shit.
>Jojo
As much as it hurts, normie shit.
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>>101449709
yeah but it's not that very common
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What would Natsume's Book of Friends count as?
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>>101437877
I'd recommend Bitter Virgin.

It's very shoujo but very short.
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>>101434803
I'm a grill, I like shoujo more than shounen. Shounen a shit.
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>>101437877
Zettai Kareshi.
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>>101446395
Maybe Natsume Yuujinchou?
Or any shoujo without a romance focus really
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Hey look guys, a Shoujo manga with a properly established relationship!
The couple even has sex too. Plus it's a girl (who is sometimes a reverse trap) dating a trap (who occasionally dresses as a guy).
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>>101461974
Shoujo. It runs in a magazine full of romances
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>>101451590
I hope WSJ won't alienate kids that just want to live their power fantasies through chinese cartoons in favor of otakus like JRPG did
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Seinin>Good Shounen>Josei>Shounen>>>Shoujo
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>>101463500
That manga is great, /a/ would love it if it got an anime.
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>>101463588
>seinen
>actually good in any possible way
They're all tryhards that try to be more mature than the medium allows it.
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>>101463500
That, uh, wow actually that is kind of a unique set up. Picked up.
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>>101463774
Go read Kuragehime, right now.
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>>101434803

This division is old as fuck and incredibly outdated.

Shonen series aimed at girls are common these days. Even in WSJ.

While traditional shojo became very rare.
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>>101463770
Imagine the unholy mix of trapfags, yurifags and fujoshi it would attract.

>>101463831
It also has some side couples like pairs of twins dating each other and a really tall girl dating a shorter guy and things.
Plus crossdressing and other stupidity.
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>>101463879
But that's Josei.
>>101463831 should read it though.
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>>101459847
>Normie shit

Like almost every shonen.
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>>101463936
And now for reverse trap x Guy cover
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>>101463932
>While traditional shojo became very rare
98% of shoujo mangas are about an asshole raping/sexually harassing an average school girl until she likes it. Isn't that traditional shoujo? Plot-driven shoujo mangas have moved to shounen/seinen magazines
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Femanon here. I've actually never read shoujo. Can anybody recommend me one?
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>>101464014
Define shoujo.
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>>101463945
>Seinin
Dammit, I'm sorry. As for seinin, OPM is seinin though.
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>>101464014

This shit is ultra niche. Always was.

If anything tsundere female abusing and harassing a weak male is 20 times more common.
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>>101464063
Mangas aimed to female audience under age 16.
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>>101459847
>As much as it hurts,

You're only hurting yourself using that retarded term.
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When OP said SNK I was thinking HnK and got confused, then understood and was finally disappointed.
Girls wouldn't like manly men.
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>>101463932
By traditional, do you mean the stuff from the 70's and 80's?

The only active mangaka I can think of that stubbornly clings to the old school style is Tamura Yumi.
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>>101464014
Nah, there's lots of shoujo that go far from the shitty standard set up.
Like having a University set up or a strong female lead.
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>>101464258

Nobody likes manly men anymore.
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>>101434803
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>>101464347
>Shoujo male is only 5' 8"
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>>101464258
I like manly men, not roid monsters.
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>>101464281

Old school shojo and it's artstyle are dead. It's a relict of the times when girls were only supposed to like romance and dominant men.

These days young girls watch PreCures punching the crap out of monsters and homoerotic bishies cutting each other with swords.
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>>101464447
>Old school shoujos
>dominant men

How wrong can you be. Old school have husbandos more on the beta side. See André from RoV. I don't remember the dudes in Candy Candy to be especially dominant either. Most of them were good natured ouji-samas with maybe one brooding edgemaster.
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>>101464133
>If anything tsundere female abusing and harassing a weak male is 20 times more common
On male-aimed works, except they tend to be way more popular than female-aimed works. The top 50 of best selling mangas is dominated by shounen/seinen titles, with only 3 or 4 shoujo/josei titles on the entire list
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>>101464414
Is that tall?
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>>101464601
Old shoujo titles were writen by men or with men having a lot of creative control. As a result, the prince charming was the star
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Considering how big shounen tends to be, it'd be easier to find girls into shounen than girls into shoujo.
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>>101464637

Women don't collect tankobon manga. They have too many magazines to go through.

Big franchises aimed at girls like Precure are drowning in money despite the fact that their manga sell like crap.
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>>101464806
Precure was born as a Bandai brand so it has different standards. Besides, a good portion of the money come from pedo otakus
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I don't like how the girl in the Shoujo is looking nowhere.
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>>101464885
She's dead inside after all the rape and bullying
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>>101464014
This, I hate how the caring and quiet guy who is always helping the feMC lose every time against an aggressive shitter that act like a monkey, in romantic shojo the romance is supposed to be the major plot point and I hate the way they handle romance and the characters, also the side characters are always the best.
In the other hand with shonen I don't give a shit about who wins in a harem because romance in harems is barely a gimmicky to have a lot of female characters around the MC, the romance is so shallow that is impossible to take seriously and that's good because only works as plot device.
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>>101465171
>Not rooting for the asshole
Are you a guy or something?
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>>101463932
Actually shoujo manga is probably the largest of the 4 demographics (more than half of all manga turnout tends to be from shoujo mags)

Shounen is the most popular

Seinen is the most critically successful

and Josei has nothing
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>>101465171
Wat ?
Can you give us example, because right now, it feels like a nerd wishfullfillement hollywood flick reversed.

Kimi Ni Todoke : the nice guy wins (he didn't really have any rival though)
RoV : childhood friend beta nice guy André wins
Otomen : the beta girly dude MC wins his waifu
Skip Beat : It's clear Ren the nice guy (though he's still a bit edgy) is going to win against douchebag manslut Shou and creepy rapist Reino.
Chihayafuru ; poorfag megane nice guy is going to win over richfag former bully Taichi.

Only case of a douchebag winning I can think of is Domyouji in Hana Yori Dango. But only after the good guy MC was in love with ditched her for a better chick.

:
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>>101465573
Tonari no Kaibutsu and Reimei no Arcana were the last I read and they were infuriating.
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>>101465573
>Kimi Ni Todoke
I'ts one of the few exceptions, not the rule

>RoV
Classic shoujo and Ikeda was leftist

>Otomen
>Skip Beat
Never followed them

>Chihayafuru
Josei and still a very controversial move. Ask Taichifags

When people think in shoujo, they think in mangas like Itazura na Kiss, Hot Gimmick,
Kyou Koi Wo Hajimemasu, Mayu Shinjo's works. The lowest common denominator
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>>101465573

>André
>Beta

Are you legitimately homosexual?
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>>101466149

>Ask Taichifags

All six of them.
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>>101465912
Maybe am I too cautious when picking my shoujos.
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>>101466188
>Dat delusion
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>>101464258
You'd be surprised how long bara has been around for fujoshi.
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>>101436459
Shounen shoujo wa ni natte
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Doesn't Aria count as Shounen and Shoujo?
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>>101466608
They call that Seinen.

And it's a full on mess every time
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>>101466869
>Aria
>mess
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If gringos only watched Saint Seiya in their childhoods, they wouldn't have so much problems with girls liking their male adolescent power fantasies
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They watch both? That is, if they're straight. I know from experience that if the main dude is hot enough, they'll watch it no matter how shitty or what genre it is.
Btw I'm a grill, but I'm a dyke so all I watch is moeshit and anything where 99% of the cast is female.
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>>101466869

Aria's a Shoujo as said by wikipedia, although the original Aqua run was both Shoujo and Shounen.

I was expecting it to be seinen too, most of those kinds of series tend to be seinen.
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>>101466499
I love this series
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>>101435646
I tried guys
I really did.
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>>101465171
This reminds me of this one shojou about a reverse trap who goes to this all boys school to beat the dude who she gave her virginity to at soccer. There's this nice guy who goes out of his way to help her and she still goes to the asshole who fucked her and ditched her
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Is there such thing as a shounen drawn in shoujo-style art, and a shoujo drawn in shounen-style art?
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>>101468695
Sailor Moon could arguably classified as a shonen with a shoujo art style



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