"Why aren't you falling in love with your sister if you always call her cute?", says Oreimofags defending using the title argument.
Why aren't YOU?
Incest aside, Kirino is just a horrible person. If she weren't blood-related to MC, she'd barely have a fanbase at all.
I think the point is to draw attention to the fact that the story is about the siblings, not the side characters. Even if it wasn't romantic in the end, Kirino still would've won, and expecting someone else to when the entire story had revolved around Kirino and Kyousuke is absurd.
You know I always did wonder why they decided to become a couple when 99% of people would just continue to be close siblings.
Somehow this doesn't seem like the next oreimo thread I was waiting for.
Pretty much. Some people just want to side with Kirino because her victory is Word of God despite the fact that she has a lot of personality problems. I wouldn't blame the light novels, though, but I would have liked it if we actually saw Kirino trying her best in what she wants to do.
They are a pair of weird siblings. That is all.
Side characters are not just cheerleaders that exist to root for the main pairing. They are also there to create relationships other than that of the main couple, and they can be used for conflicts that would test the main couple's love for each other.
We didn't have that in Oreimo.
Ruri's love for Kyousuke stemmed from her love for Kirino.
Ayase admired Kyousuke because she herself wanted to be a sibling figure for Kirino.
Manami didn't do enough to test their relationship. She was just an arbiter of sorts during the start of the series and only made her move when it was too late. No wonder she lost.
Saori was the greatest cheerleader of all. She gave in at the slightest sign of the sibling's love for each other.
You get the pattern, I'm sure.
There's 500 post threads nearly every day where articulate individuals discuss this series and you faggots actually believe this shit?
Discuss? More like shitpost anyone who has a different opinion than that of the "Kirinofags".
>if we actually saw Kirino trying her best in what she wants to do
We did see tons of that though, you're just dense as shit. I'm not going to stick around to explain, so I'll just link you to the thread we just finished.
Agreed, I just wanted to pop in and see what's what. Goodnight.
Fighting the good fight Anon. You better be on tomorrow and tuesday for the next time we have a proper thread.
Yes, I see many posts of reasonable arguments and citing the source material while those with a different opinion spew "nah its shit" over and over, and then attack Kirinofags because they don't know enough about the series to discuss the actual characters.
Did you make this thread because you were chased away from that one? Do their well founded opinions hurt your feelings?
Those are not enough. I don't want things seen through Kyousuke's filters but in a less biased POV.
>those with a different opinion spew "nah its shit" over and over
Hey, that's not solely my fault.
>attack Kirinofags because they don't know enough about the series to discuss the actual characters.
You guys refuse to deal with the "false Kirinofags" in Oreimo threads.
>Did you make this thread because you were chased away from that one? Do their well founded opinions hurt your feelings?
No on both accounts. I have been looking for the thread where Oreimo can also be criticized without being shat on. All I'm seeing are anons, reasonable as they are, supporting the story and the canon and none of said reasonable people pointing out possible flaws in the story.
My search is elusive to this day, and I'm sure none of you will give the shitposters even the littlest fuel to feed their "arguments".
Oreimo's flawed in that it's back-loaded and its direction wasn't crystal clear in the first 5 volumes. Despite that, all the pieces fit surprisingly well if you look at the whole picture, and since previously so few people did, more time is spent in these threads explaining things than criticizing what's left.
You need to understand the series to properly criticize it, but in pretty much all cases, those who criticize it aren't willing to try and understand it. You're not going to find such a thread until the anime-audience and shitposters die out, and that isn't going to happen any time soon.
So again it boils down to you Oreimoists trying to spread your damned Oreimo-religion by telling everyone to read the Oreimo novels.
It actually dangerous when its called Scientology.
>You need to understand the series to properly criticize it, but in pretty much all cases, those who criticize it aren't willing to try and understand it.
The interest for Oreimo will also die out soon, leaving a lot of people raging, the rest obese in the tears of others.
Well, I got to hand it to Oreimo for a ballsy ending, but the "burning bridges" thing would have been done better—and I have already read that part of the light novels, mind you. Shutting down their "routes" in a relatively quick succession felt like Fushimi is rushing to finish the series. I would have liked the "shutdown" to happen throughout six months, not a span of a few weeks.
The thing with the losers helping the siblings get together was too unrealistic, though. I can't imagine them just helping the two get together after having rejected that much.
>Oreimo's flawed in that it's back-loaded and its direction wasn't crystal clear in the first 5 volumes
LN reader here. I agree with pretty much all of your post. But while I understand what you're saying here, I'm not sure I entirely agree. It seems obvious Fushimi starts working towards something after Volume 2. This is likely because the first 2 volumes are fairly self contained, and I'm willing to bet Dengeki Bunko as well as the author wasn't sure the series would take off and become popular at that point.
Though I get what you mean.
I do agree that the rejections were sort of rushed, but I guess it's expected of a medium like this to have all aspects of a major decision rolled into one volume. It's unfortunate that it's the way it went, because more insight to Kuroneko and Ayase's reactions would've been nice, as well as an expansion on Kirino and Kyousuke's time spent dating.
Regardless, it's fitting of the traits he'd established for Kyousuke, in that he rushes into things haphazardly when he's passionate.
As for the losers helping thing, though Kuroneko's assistance was a little over the top, it's not really that unusual for her character. It's also pretty clear that Kuroneko is sore towards Kyousuke following the rejection, though she doesn't really have any reason to be upset with Kirino.
Ayase never really helped them get together and made it seem more like she wanted them to get over it when she confronted Kirino in volume 12's prologue.
I don't mean to be defensive. Just my thoughts.
>three volumes for a major battle in Toaru Majutsu no Index
I suspect that Miki hates handling romance, seriously.
>As for the losers helping thing, though Kuroneko's assistance was a little over the top, it's not really that unusual for her character. It's also pretty clear that Kuroneko is sore towards Kyousuke following the rejection, though she doesn't really have any reason to be upset with Kirino.
This is why I hated Ruri more than Manami during the finale. Hell, I didn't find any of the girls fappable after what happened. Ruri was overly tragic, and she reminded me too much of Tsubasa Hanekawa in Nekomonogatari White—both have their aspects of beauty, but the presence of an overwhelming psychological baggage makes her unlikable in my opinion.
Before finale: Kuroneko > Manami
After finale: All the girls in Oreimo are shit.
>Comparing suggestions on the best format to follow a series in to a scientology
Certainly as oreimo fans we seem to be ideologically motivated (it's why we're persistant) but we're not a cult.
Really. All we ask is that sibling marriage be allowed.