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>yfw Sabo was foreshadowed back at Enies Lobby
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What's really gonna blow your mind is that when, in one of the first chapters, Captain Morgan while glossing over a couple examples of devil fruit powers, mentions Ace and Whitebeard's powers.
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>>101422057
post it?

>>101421437
in what way does that foreshadow sabo/
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>>101421437
or his grandfather
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>>101422094
It doesn't. What OP probably meant is that Luffy's referring to the time the world government burned the city he lived in aka the story in which Sabo is introduced.
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>>101422136
What is this poll about? Best straw hat?
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>>101422094
Actually it just foreshadows that Luffy has experience with such a ruling power, back in the Gray Terminal.
Not really Sabo at all
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>>101422094
It's not mentioned in the manga, but in the anime Morgan says, "The power the breath fire, the power to create waves".
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>>101422228
thought as much
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>>101422228
Not really, Luffy could've just meant it from his own viewpoint, that being there are people hurting Robin so he wants to kick their ass. He understood Vivi's enemy the same way.
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>>101422202
Yes.
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>>101422456
I didn't know we had that much people loving Zoro here
Also, Sanji with 24 votes?
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>>101422528
Zoro became the best when NOTHING HAPPENED
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Daily reminder that Sabo wil eat the fruit
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>>101422528
Zoro is a total badass. But I love every member of the crew.
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spoilers fucking when
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>>101422592
Daily reminder that Sabo is going to be the one to tell Luffy that D's can eat more than one fruit, then present Luffy with the Mera-Mera.
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>>101422136
I'm perfectly ok with this
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>>101422648
There's no point in being rubber if he's fire
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>>101422648
Sabo already told Luffy that the fruit doesn't belong to him
Obviously he has other plans
>>101422686
Mera Mera doesn't transform you into a fire man, it gives you the ability to transform into one when you desire, it's quite different from the Gomu Gomu
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>>101422528
I'm a Zorofag, but I like all of them and I don't really bring up Zoro unless he's relevant to the discussion.
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>>101422796
>Bisoromi Bear
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>>101421437
Are you sure the translation is accurate in this case?
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>>101422825
>Tonjiahdo Lofulamingo
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>>101422057
I think that was just in the anime, though breathing fire isn't exactly anything special in terms of fictional powers, don't recall if he mentioned Whitebeard's.
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>>101422136
nice job excluding Buggy , he would be #1. in any poll.
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>>101422136
>135
that's cute
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I really hope Sugar joins the crew. The Straw Hats really need a loli.
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>>101423354
That's stupid and so are you.
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>>101423354
She'll fall in love with Usopp after he KOs her
Calling it
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>>101423354
>loli
FUCK OFF PEDOSCUM
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What will Green Bulls power be?

Green either mean something related to poison or nature, healing, plants etc. Since we already has poison with Magellan and plants with Usopp i could see some kind of tree type.

Either a tree zoan / paramecia which basically would give us a One Piece Hashirama or Mythical Zoan Tree of Life or something like that, some kind of healing / wolverine related thing.
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>yfw
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>>101423495
I would like that for some reason
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>>101422796
>Land of midgets
The Tontatta?! Holy shit that was 500 chapters ago!
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Who repaired the Going Merry in Skypiea?
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>>101423354
>>101423495
>>101423797
>another moeblob
No
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>>101422136
>chopper has less votes than nami
And I can't even disagree, he has become the fucking mascot of the crew
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>>101423637
Wind.
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>>101423776
>>101423802
>oda backtracking and doing the simplest thing
>pissfag: HOLY SIHET SO EPIC WOW AMAZING ODAS A GOD
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>>101423354
>>101423503
>implying she isn't at least 20 years old or older.
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>>101423865
I miss fat Chopper
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>>101423906
She still looks young.
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Whats /a/'s opinion of the theory that One Piece is a way to make one united ocean through the destruction of part of the red line?
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>>101423859
>another
She's the only one from One Piece that comes to mind
I really do hate moeshit most of the time though
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>>101423900
>acting like a bitch on the Internet
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CP9 are still unsurpassed as best villains in One Piece
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>>101424013
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>>101424066
>Blackbeard
>Doflamingo
>Crocodile
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>>101423853
Tom
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http://strawpoll.me/1107137

Who will fight Pica?
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I still maintain that Kinemon and Momonosuke would make good additions to the crew.
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>>101424231
Kinemon fucking left
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>>101424066

Really? I thought the CP9 were pretty mediocre villains by One Piece standards
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>>101424232
I still maintain that you're a homosexual.
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>>101424066
They had the best arc, but they aren't the best villains.
>>101423853
the klabautermann
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>>101423900

Even if that were the case, his obsession with details is pretty amazing.
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>>101424303
I still maintain my dick in your mom's ass.
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>>101424255
But she was always kawaii as HELL
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>>101424303
Second.

>>101424282
Didn't he leave to find his m8?
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>>101424414
It was never stated but that's probably the case
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>>101424231
zoro
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>>101424013

One of the bests I've heard, but for me uniting the ocean sounds more like the purpose of the Ancient Weapons than the One Piece. But, since Luffy has been shown to already have access to 2 of the weapons, I expect both to overlap somehow.

Another thing that intrigues me if that were the case is, why people like Rayleigh or Shanks didn't keep going on with Roger's plan.
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>>101424407
>and were the men called 'Brag Men' really liars?
Obviously not, they did Little Garden
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>>101424013

It's shit
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>>101424297

I think he was trying to bait us
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>>101424660
>I don't agree with it
>must be bait
Fuck you dweeb
CP9 are my favorite and I feel like they're still the best.
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>>101424618

Part of the stories could be bullshit. However, if Nami read that book before going to the GL, how come she didn't know about the log pose? She could pay some attention to what she reads.
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>>101424767
It may not be in there because they expect it to be common knowledge
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>>101424760

I like them, but I can't picture someone telling "CP9 are still unsurpassed as best villains in One Piece" with a straight face.

They were interesting, but their motivation was easily the most boring.
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>>101424914
>Common knowledge
>Grand Line
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>>101424922
I just really like them, I feel like none of the ones that came after them were that interesting. The recent batch of weirdos though might end up being better.
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>>101424914

Also, if the book is old, they could very well not know about the weird magnetic fields. Maybe in their times they navigated through the sun or the stars, begging to find some land before dying. Inventing the Log Pose must have been difficult as shit.
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>>101425032
I know I'm going to get yelled at for this, but I really had some appreciation for the New Fishman Pirates.
But I also understand why people think the arc was boring, and that the reason why I liked it was personal and not as relatable for other people.
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>>101424231
Wicca in my opinion, the dwarves are fast but she is the only one that showed tonnes of strength. She was smashing the ground made of stone. Who else is made of stone? Pica.
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>>101422648

No. This would be the worst thing ever.
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>>101425214
Do you have a hollow and irrational desire for revenge, anon?
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>>101422648
Luffy doesn't need the Mera Mera no Mi. He can already set himself on fire and he's resistant to most physical attacks not backed by Haki. The Mera Mera no Mi would be redundant.
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>>101424066

They were great as the "Its just my job, nothing personal" villans. I like those kind of bad guys, similar to the Turks in Final Fantasy 7.

However, I wouldnt call them the "best" villans. Blackbeard for me still has that title.
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>>101425377
No, but I grew up in the American south, so I know a lot of people who do.
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>>101425032

It seems like no one liked Moria. I liked his weird ass plan to get a zombie crew, and this is very ridiculous, but that little moment when he talked about how Kaidoh killed his previous crew totally changed his character for me, from generic villain to a complex man traumatized either by failure or by the loss of his friends.

Also, the incredible amount of nonsense he kept pulling with his fruit was awesome. I really like when villains keep making asspull after asspull. That's why I also loved when Blackbeard stole the Gura Gura power.
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>>101425481
That's funny because I live in Texas and I hated them.
You'd think you would pity them more than like them.
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Is there anyone who has a good post time skip design?
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>>101424013

Travel between the different Blues doesn't seem to be that big of a deal. Sanji came from North Blue and that experience wasn't notable enough that he ever even mentions it. Also, you would need to destroy more than one part, or it would only connect two of the Blues.
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>>101425377

Maybe he abuses drugs. That would explain how he can both enjoy and relate to Fishman Island. Just joking, I liked the arc as well. Queen Otohime is my waifu.
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>>101425553
Yeah, that.
I just get the feeling that when Hody said the humans never did anything to him, people thought they were stupid and pointless.
But I felt like I understood that, I recognized it more easily than people from less-racist places.
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http://shipoffools.wikia.com/wiki/One_Piece:_Ship_of_fools_Wiki

Click random until you get a random devil fruit power.
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>>101425598

It always struck me as weird how could people like Sanji travel so easily from Blue to Blue. However, the Marines have the technology to go through the Calm Belt without problems, and that's probably the same for rich merchants that can afford the seastone.

According to the theory, the plan is destroying both Reverse Mountain and Fishman Island, which would also make Luffy fullfill the prophecy about him destroying the island.
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>>101425749
Report and hide
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>>101425672
It just made me hate them more. The only thing that gets under my skin more than racists is racists that don't have a reason.
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>>101425862
So racists?
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>>101421437
Most likely Luffy just understand that WG is a big organization.
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>>101425862
Most any racist doesn't have a reason, they're just taught to hate and rewarded for it from an early age
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inb4 we meet Zoros parents on Wano
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>>101425862

I don't want to come out as some kind of faggot, but racism never has a logical reason. You can hate all the people from one country because your country was at war with them 30 years ago, but that wouldn't really be logical.
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>>101425957
There are a percent that actually had something done to them by a person of their particular race of hatred.
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Guys, call me crazy but I think Paulie is going to join as the carpenter.
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>>101425498
If Jinbe didn't remind Luffy that he still had his nakama then Luffy probably would have ended up like Moria.
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>>101425957
>>101426062
>>101426086
A lot of racism comes from stereotyping. Person has a bad experience with Mexicans, then lashes out at all Mexicans as a result.
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>>101426082
>Yfw they fall down a flight of stairs
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>>101426145

Yeah but it's still illogical holding that grudge against every member of their race/country/gender. It's understandable, but illogical.
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>>101425672
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>>101426249
I never said it was logical. It's still stupid.
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>>101425862
If that pissed you off then that means Oda did a good job writing them.
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>>101426175

Nah man, I personally have my bets on Kaku. He seems like a bro
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>>101426402
He definitely did.
I still feel like the arc was all-around pretty boring and the Sanji-nosebleed plot point was retarded.
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>>101426212

I kinda wish that he comes back as an ally at some point. Though I have to admit I always found weird that Absalom was still alive instead of dying with the Shadow Asgard.
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>>101426402
Not particularly, I get set off pretty easily.
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>>101426410
>two long-nose strawhats
pls no
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>>101426473
I thought it was hilarious.
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>>101423900
Even if that is really all Oda does it still makes him a shit ton better than hack writers like Kishi and Kubo who can't even retcon stuff properly.
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>>101426394
Of course it's stupid, racism is stupid in the first place, no matter how you want to justify it
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>>101426476
Appearantly, Absalom isn't a shadow in someone's body. He had animal parts embedded to his own. In fact, the lion was, I think, his or has something to do with his past.
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>>101426249
yeah its completely illogical to go inside a cage with a tiger just because 9 tigers before ate everyone who came inside,

i mean fuck stereotypes its not like they ate YOU.
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>>101426764
This was addressed in an SBS. Absalom was a normal guy that had animal parts transplanted onto him by Hogback. Whether or not that lion had his face, Oda wouldn't say for the sake of his female fans.
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>>101425862
I kind of liked that he didn't have a reason.
Why does every villain need a sob story about their life and unfairness?
Can't they be bad just to be bad?
Can't they be racist just to be racist?
It is a villain...
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>>101426559
Kubo is the worst at that shit.

How is it possible that Rukia (or any of the other shinigami who go to Kurosaki's house) doesn't recognize Isshin if he was a goddamn captain only 20 years ago?
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>>101426878
Lion has whose face? What female fans, for what reason? Absalom, the guy, just had Hogback take the mouth of a dead lion and slap it in his face.

Just look at his childhood picture Oda drew.
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>>101426802
That's a pretty valid comparison m8
>>101427000
Most of the time you are supposed to hate a villain.
But I felt sorry for the New Fishman Pirates because I know people who are really like that.
you can find them on /pol/
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>>101427000
That's not what Oda was doing and what you're asking for is something hacks do.
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>>101427000
I really liked how the chapter before implied that Hody gave some kind of revelation about his past after he was asked about it. Then, when we finally see his answer, it's just "nothing."
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Do people really want Rebecca to join? Kinemon is a much better contender
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>>101427222
Rebecca got a sad flashback
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>>101427222
>Do people really want Rebecca to join?

Anyone who seriously wants Rebecca to join isn't a real person, on the same level as you and I.

I'd wager they have more in common with the gunk you see in a gutter, than a bona fide Human.
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>>101427117
You fuck, now I have to find the page.
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>>101427222
Why are people still on the new nakama shit? What you said or want to say have been said millions times before. And you even read those comments. On here, Reddit, Mangafox, whatever crappy website you went, you saw all those comments on Rebecca, Kinemon, or fucking Doflamingo himself joining.

And yet here you are, still making posts like these.

Just, stop. Please.
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>>101427000
>not getting it

Did you ever see a generation inherit the gatred of its elders?
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>>101427222
I haven't seen anyone who does.
I like Kinemon but he has a son, he should stay with his family.
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>>101427327
Yes, please do.
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>>101427356
*hatred
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>>101427327
This lion.
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>>101427222

For me, this would be the order of next nakama preferences:

Rebbeca < Violet = Kinemon < Wicca < Caesar < No one
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>>101427222
I'm not really a fan of anybody in this arc joining.
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>>101427222
the next nakama is a toy!
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>>101427534
come to think of it, hasn't it kind of been a while since luffy just randomly asked anyone to join him?
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>>101427222
I mentioned earlier that I wanted him and his son to join.
>>101427563
I doubt it because their goal is to break that spell. I could be a dwarf though they haven't had one give a backstory.
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>>101427310
He'll obviously get one too

>>101427372
Robin was a villain, Luffy hated Franky and he had his bros to protect, Brook had to go back to Laboon. There's always a reason why they can't join but then twists happen
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>>101427563
It's Pica
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>>101427479
Oh come the fuck on, that's obviously Absalom.

In any case, what girl fans were you referring to? Surely there are male fans of One Piece who like animals?
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>>101427343
Sounds like you need to stop being in these threads, then. The Internet doesn't revolve around what you get tired of.
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>>101426802
>implying tigers who act by instinct are the same than people who act differently from each other based on a ton of factors
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>>101427610
No, I think he asked Kinemon's legs or something
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>>101427356
I get it perfectly, I lived in the South.
He doesn't have a reason, he just does it because that's how he grew up in the FIshman district and he doesn't have a personal reason, he was just taught to hate.
>>101427131
I bet you just love how Naruto villains always have sob back stories or stupid reasons to turn evil. It's not as if the concept is dependent on the story or author, it's always bad no matter what for a villain to be evil without motive.
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>>101427643
>There's always a reason why they can't join but then twists happen
Name one reason why Nami, Zoro, Ussop, Sanji, and Chopper couldn't join.
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Why doesn't One Piece just stretch to the treasure?
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>>101427507
I still don't trust Violet. We haven't gotten an explanation yet for why Doflamingo said she wanted to break up the Luffy/Law alliance.
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>>101427643
twist is that Momo dies because the artificial DF is lethally poisonous
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Does Luffy really still not realize the Sogeking is Ussop yet?
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>>101427696
They all sorta declined the offer at first. Usopp's really the only one that joked about it.
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>>101427647
Oda said in the SBS I mentioned that he didn't want to ruin Absalom's image for his female fans. It's implied that it's because the face on the lion is ugly.
By the way, it WAS confirmed that that is the lion that Absalom's lion face was taken from which is why the issue came up.
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>>101427691
Naruto's tragic backstories are thrown on at the last minute with no though for muh feels.
Real mature, by the way. You disagree with me so you must like Naruto.
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>>101425498
>Also, the incredible amount of nonsense he kept pulling with his fruit was awesome
Funny, that's the very reason I don't like him. Oda added a huge swath of shadow mythology just to make this one villain intimidating and set up the arcs theme. It's not nearly as bad as Sugar's though.
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>>101427869
Meadows is Kaidou

r-right guys?
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>>101427651
Oh, a reaction picture. I sure feel dumb.

I know there are lots of other people who are sick of post about new nakama or who's the new warlord.

However I'm not calling you guys out and want you to leave. I'll be staying, and so should you. My whole point is that what you're saying is said in every single thread, it's not funny anymore saying Ace is the new warlord.

Post whatever the fuck you want, but please admit it's pointless. You seriously can't be enjoying this. If you really do, perhaps you should go to /r/OnePieceCirclejerk or something.
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>>101427924
I've never seen an Ace is a warlord post.
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>>101427924
I agree.
Shit gets old after a while, like the DF roulette that gets posted every fucking thread
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>>101427754
He saw him unmasked at the end of Enies Lobby, didn't he?
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>>101425498
I loved Moria, too bad Oda made him look like shit in the Whitebeard war

Can't wait for him to join Luffy against Kaidou as thanks for defeating Dofla
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>>101427816
A minor character's image on female fans? Why does he even give a shit?

I mean, the guy's face is taken out of his head via surgery, you can't except him to be Cavendish.
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>>101427992
He didn't see him take the mask off, he just saw that he was there.
He said something along the lines of "Usopp, you were here too?".
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>>101427970
Me neither. Thanks for avoiding my point completely.

>>101427981
Couldn't he just ask what DF power people want? Or maybe make a roll?
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>>101428046
Jokes, anon. Jokes.
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How did Pell survive?
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>>101428046
You are being really anal about this. Have you ever read the SBS?
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>>101428053
Always thought he said that jokingly.

I mean sure, Luffy is dumb. Often too dumb to be real for comedic cases. But he does have slightly smart comebacks from time to time.
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>>101427924
Agree with what you said, but I don't mind new nakama posts when they provide decent evidence. In my opinion Rebecca will get the Mera mera no mi, because of the foreshadowing. Look at pic related and you see fire in her eyes. I'll post another example in a second.
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>>101428157
Not that part, no. Excuse my rather angsted style, I'm not that bumped about this.
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>>101428148
He is inspired by Horus. And also, his survival wasn't an integral part of the arc, it was tacked on at the end. Unfortunately this invalidates a chunk of the arc, but ultimately. Whatever. He's alive because you never saw him take the fatal wound.

Unlike dead as fuck Monet.
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>>101423637
Plasma
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>>101428221
Snow magic.
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>>101427729

I don't remember she saying that. Are you sure it wasn't some mistranslation? I remember that Doflamingo was sure Violet was betting on Luffy/Law defeating him.
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>>101422528
Sanji is actually popular, only people trying to hate him are underaged faggots joining what they think is a trendy bandwagon
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>>101427924
I honestly have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Are you asking if I get enjoyment out of having conversations about one piece, despite the fact that the majority of the subjects of our conversations have been discussed on other websites?

The answer is yes; people who AREN'T you have obviously not seen or had the same number of conversations that you have. Just because you may have seen a lot of these subjects repeated across several different mediums doesn't mean I have, or anyone else who isn't you. What makes you think you're so special that just because you've seen and had a conversation that no one else can have it? Don't ask us to change our subject just because YOU aren't enjoying it. When you get tired of the conversation, that's the point when you need to fuck off.
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>>101428168
That's fucking reaching, nigga.
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>>101428269
Heart explicitly stabbed and bleeding.
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>>101428168
and in this one the crowd wants to throw Rebecca into a fire, if that isn't foreshadowing then I don't know what is.
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>>101428357
I'm not trying to hate him, I'm succeeding.
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>>101427917

That was an awful theory.

At least this one has better credence.

Doflamingo talked with the leader before the time skip (right after the end of Luffy's flashback story) who had requested Gecko Moria being eliminated. I don't see any reason they'd include that scene other than to put it in to play much later on.

Sabo is a Revolutionary with origins of nobility. Becoming a plant in the World Government is not impossible, in that regard.

Furthermore, he's certain of his ability to keep the Mera Mera Fruit away from the other finalists. Strength is key, especially when you're someone within the CP ranks.

And then you have the fact that Sabo looks like he has a giant scar/one eye missing, which is in line with the mask on the leader.

One final point, Sabo's "coming out of nowhere" is mysterious if we haven't already been shown that he's landed (CP0 arrives).
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>>101427924
>Ace is the new warlord

Please, it's obvious that the new shichibukai is Sabo. Dragon needs a new spy.
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>>101427315
>so ebin XD
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>>101428403
Is this a joke?
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>>101428376
Don't act like the only posts in this thread are about new nakama. There are other discussions going on and I'm enjoying them.

As for the same posts, I saw them in various One Piece threads here on 4chan AND on other websites. I'm pretty sure people who say Rebecca is going to join have already said it before in some other thread and enjoyed the shitstorm caused by Rebecca haters or something.

If you seriously don't frequent here, I'm genuinly sorry. But you'll see what I mean after a while, unless you're just someone who likes to start fights and assume that's attention being given to him.
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>>101428324
Actually, I think you're right. I hate not being able to understand the raw.
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>>101428380
Sounds like it. If anyone's going to eat the Mera Mera, it's either Sanji, or Sabo leaves with it.
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>>101428392
She can still get better and join the crew.
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>>101428528
No but when she gets the fruit your tears will be glorious.
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>>101428617
Sanji doesn't need it, he doesn't even need to spin to make the fire anymore.
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>>101428557
Did you... mean to respond to me? Because I was arguing against the guy who was talking about repetitive posts.
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>>101427479
1000 hours in MSpaint.

If someone with better skills wants, they could do this much better.
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>>101428449
That's some Kubo level twist right there

That's a dumb theory and so are you
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>>101428617
I actually wouldn't mind Sanji getting the Mera. I know it won't happen, but he's one of the few people I wouldn't hate to have it.
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>>101427000
WE absolutely have, it's refreshing that Oda writes villains to be villains, to be something for the audience to love only at the moment they swallow their own teeth. Breaks from the shonen mold if nothing else.
>>101427131
That's exactly what Oda made and that made for a memorable villain.
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>>101428669
I'm that guy. And I'm not against repetitive posts. They help the thread stay alive after all. I'm just pointing out they are tasteless.

Ok, we get it. You want/think it's reasonable that Rebecca joins the Straw Hats. She is a female and has a sad story. We get it. Move on. We heard it millions of times before.
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>>101428770
>Hody
>memorable villain
top kek
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>>101428734

What's so far fetched about it?

We've already seen a mask-related set of shenanigans in Water 7. What's so unusual here? In fact, I'd be more surprised about a random Sabo appearance.
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>>101428726
why is it so big
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>>101427643
Brook accepted as soin Luffy asked
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Zoro is going to get the mera mera.
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>>101428726
Pretty sure the mouth is smaller...

>>101428762
I don't mind whoever gets the fruit. I trust Oda won't pull of anything stupid so I'm fine with whatever happens.

This is why I'm against repetitive posts by the way. People are saying they will drop the series if a certain character gets the fruit? No, you fucking won't. You didn't drop when Ace died, you didn't drop when Sabo showed up, and you won't drop even if fucking Toy Soldier eats the fruit.

On the subject, can toys or people who are made into modern art can eat fruits? Can the toy-loli turn objects into toys? Then have them eat Zoans?
(Now that's a fresh subject right here.)
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How likely is that Diamante is going to get instantly knocked out by Sabo and Jesus?
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>>101427356
crocodile didn't have a sad story
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>>101428829
I'm having a really hard time following your tone, but I think agree with you for the most part (I think).

I'm not a fan of the constant speculation either, but what I'm saying is saying "move one" is assuming that you're talking to the same crowd of people, which you aren't. A stale conversation to you is a fresh one to someone else, despite whether you've had the conversation here or somewhere else. Maybe someone didn't have access to the Internet for the last thread where a a similar conversation was going on, and they decide the talk about it in the current thread.
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>>101427310
kinemon had to protect his son from doffy and flee while some guy sacrificed himself for them
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>>101429051
People who threaten to stop reading when shit doesnt go their way are narcissists and liar, or Naruto fans.

And I'm sure if a sword can eat a fruit then a toy can. Also, I'm pretty sure Thunder Soldier is gonna die.
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>>101429108
>wanted to be pirate king
>got tossed around by whitebeard and losing all motivation and becoming a shell of a man
>not sad
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>>101429108
Well, he did give up his dream of becoming the Pirate King. There must be a sad story there.

>>101429122
If a person in this thread hasn't seen a post about Rebecca joining or eating the Flare-Flare, then that means that person hasn't been to any One Piece related discussion website for more than a month.
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>>101429122
>*"Move on"
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>>101429108
He did, it was just easy to miss since there was no flashback. He originally set out to be king of the pirates, realized just how impossible it was, then resigned to being a Warlord.
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>>101429108
Iva has dirt on him we still don't know, though. His back story really hasn't been revealed
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>>101429278
But these are not regular toys, are they? In any case, I also stated, what if that girl can turn objects into toys? Better yet, what if the modern-art lady turns you into a work of art, then the toy-loli turns you into a toy, and you eat a Zoan?
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>>101429108
He's Luffy's mom and for some reason had to leave his son behind and become a man.
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>>101429448
So original. Ha friggin' ha.
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>>101428403
Sabo wins fruit and eats it. Plans with Rebeca to go and fight Doflamingo. She starts fighting and grtting beat bad. Sabo has turned into fire and is chilling out in the corner. Dofla kicks Rebeca into the fire and Sabo stays in fire form. Sabo makes it look like Rebeca ate the fruit by flying all around her while still being fire. Dofla is shocked. (sabo doesnt want to show himself because he is a recolutionary) BOOM.Luffy flies in after being sent flying previously by Mingo. Gomu Gomu no jet storm to finish off Mingo.
i am nigger
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>>101429443
Choppers powers seemed to stop working when he was turned into art, so if you became a zoan while art, you'd probably lose it when you turned back.

Or Oda just forgot Chopper has different forms again.
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>>101429323
It's possible, isn't it?
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>>101428918
Don't worry baby, it'll only hurt for a second.
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>>101429620
if that was so wouldnt brook have like fallen over dead?
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>>101429323
>flare-flare fruit
looks like we have a huge fag here
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what would elephant storm look like?
or better yet grizzly storm?
>too much
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>>101427000
Oda writes senseless villains all the time. I do find it amusing though that the one villain with a legit full backstory was just mindless hate. Like, he could have had a good reason but Oda said, "fuck it, I don't play by your rules" and took all of highground away.

I'm really hoping though that Doffy has a good justifying backstory. He's the only true villain with King's haki. This arc isn't hjs last.
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>>101429996
We did elephant gatling and that was fucking awesome
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>>101425245

All of the dwarves showed incredible strength. Not just her.
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Why exactly does Chopper's human form gain muscles?
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>>101430002
who said he has king's haki?
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>>101430130
he works out
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>>101427563
I really want this to happen. Like Oda pulls a Facebook and one of the revealed toys has been on the crew since Fishman Island but they landed 1st on the island and got Sugar'd away. Then Oda shows a montage of them fighting at FI and PH alongside the SH. It would be so cash and a little fucked up.
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>>101430171
He used it when he found smoker
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Has Oda explained why Chopper got a new hat? It makes about as much sense as Luffy getting a new hat.
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>>101430071
storm is better than gatling
>launches himself with a twisted, giant balloon and comes at Doflamingo with the power of 1000 suns
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The more I think about it the more it makes sense. This guy is Sabo.
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Why did she insist that doffy break their alliance?
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>>101430254
It's a cover on his old hat. It goes on top. The old hat is underneath.
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>>101430254
He addressed this in an SBS as well. It's a cover, he still wears the old one under it.
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Pic related.
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>>101430389
Pro-tip:[Spoiler]You read a shitty translation.[/spoiler:lit]
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>>101430254
D: Is two-years later Chopper's "Hat" a fusion of his original one and a blue one on top? If I'm wrong, answer me clearly, please. P.N. Oonuki = π Down

O: You are not wrong. I just fused the two. Since the pink hat is Chopper's treasure, so it didn't necessarily change.
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>>101430415
>>101430432
>>101430455
That's good, as long as it's the same hat.
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>>101427869

Why are you comparing a guy who's wearing a fucking mask to Sabo?
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>>101429397
>Iva has dirt on him
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>>101430482
I thought I could trust mangastream. What does it really say?
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>>101430171

Read the fucking manga, retard.
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>>101430504

Refer to

>>101428449
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>>101430580
it's bait nigga
cpcha short-lived rage
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>>101430523

It specifically says she was betting on the SH and Heart Pirate alliance to bring down Doflamingo whereas Rebecca and the King just wanted to get the fruit to try and defeat him.
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>>101428449
>Sabo's "coming out of nowhere" is mysterious
>>101428897
>I'd be more surprised about a random Sabo appearance.

>more surprising if it's random

And that, gentlemen, was the fucking point.
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>>101430504
Because they both have scars under their eyes
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>>101430595

Both of those theories are shitty, man. Besides the mask, that guy is way fucking taller than Sabo.
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>>101429996
>Red Grizzly Storm

FOR MOTHER RUSSIA
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>>101430668

Except it's hamfisted and Oda doesn't tend to do that shit to important plot points.
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>>101430679
Oh my god. The head of CP0 is Garp or Luffy. It all makes sense.
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>>101421437
hey moron

I know this might be hard for you to understand

but what the author is doing is rereading his own old comics and using some shit he said randomly as material to make future material. So, he'll open up issue 3 or someshit, pick out some word bubble that says something usable, and then work it into his later story

It's nifty and all but it's not some god like ability and it wasn't foreshadowing when he wrote it
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>>101425498
>blackbeard
How is it an asspull when it it was shown to be a part of his fruit's ability?

Same with Moriah.
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>>101430732

Where's the height comparison next to a commoner? Sabo is taller than Luffy, for one.
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>>101430795

And yet most mangaka don't do this.
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>>101430795

No one said it was unique or godly or that he didn't do it. I'm just saying that the method in which it's delivered is NOT hamfisted.
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>>101430814
Blackbeard stealing another person's power was never stated to be part of his fruit's ability and was in fact stated to be completely impossible multiple times.
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>>101430795
The point is he does it really well.
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>>101430722
Goddammit, how could mangastream fuck up the translation so much? They completely changed the meaning of the text.
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>>101430969

But it's never stated that it's NOT a part of his fruit's power. It makes sense because when he touches you you lose your power. But that's really the only part that does make sense.

When he took Whitebeard's power all of his crewmates thought he would die so the process is definitely dangerous for him. Or maybe they just said that cause they assumed it was true you die if you eat 2 devil fruits.
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>>101431088
Mangastream translates what they think Oda 'means', not what the characters are actually saying and prioritizes readability over accuracy. Which normally works out okay and sometimes actually makes it read better than regular translations but most of the time leads to horrible fuckups.
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>>101430795
Go away.
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>>101430969
That isn't an asspull.
That's not what 'asspull' means.
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>>101431129
>But it's never stated that it's NOT a part of his fruit's power.

This is not an argument. If Luffy revealed that he could fly and breathe in space because of his power would you just wave it off with "Oda never said he couldn't?".
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>>101431129
Marco's line about Blackbeard's body must not be forgotten. From that line we can assume that his ability to sustain multiple powers comes from something he had BEFORE he obtained the Yami Yami Fruit.
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>>101431306
That's what he did with Enel. Although I theorize that One Piece's moon has an atmosphere.
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>>101431327
The part that isn't understood is how he extracted the fruit from Whitebeard's body.
Some people think that he had a fruit with him, and since he was so close to Whitebeard his fruit became the Gura Gura no Mi instantly.
And then he ate it under the curtain or whatever.
I don't really know, but I don't think that's right
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>>101431306
If he did it by being made of rubber I wouldn't bat an eye. Nigga made his legs into extra hearts.
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>>101430969
>stated to be completely impossible multiple times.
This may surprise you, but people in One Piece don't know the full extent of how devil fruits work
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>>101431502
And Gear 2 and 3 are ultimately also bullshit.
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>>101430814
If he can steal DF powers as a result of his yami yami no mi, we don't know it yet. So far we only know that his power can cancel out another DF users powers through contact.

I will say that it would be reasonable to assume that if he maintained contact long enough he could assimilate their powers. Just speculation at this point though.
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>>101431583
Gear 2 is fine, 3 is bullshit. Balloons aren't heavy.
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>>101431306

I know that I'm just saying that it's not 100% either way.
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>>101431503
Vegapunk does
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>>101431665

Haki balloons.
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>>101431503
We'll learn all about them when they finally fight Kaido.
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Robin's backstory is a shitty Nami ripoff with more death in an attempt to make it sadder.
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>>101431765
You really don't understand why Gear 3 is so stupid, do you.
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>>101431665
The amount of CO2 that he blows into his bones to expand to that size would weigh enough to deliver the larger impact.
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>>101430814

The Yami Yami was a very well known fruit, so, if it had the power to steal another DF, people would already know. Blackbeard had the same info about the fruit than everyone else could get. His Yami Yami only negated the powers, otherwise he would have also stolen Ace's power when he got him.

Having 2 DF powers, and, more weirdly, stealing the power from another person, was so impossible that everyone in Marineford fell back on their asses.

As with Moriah, by asspulls I refer to how he suddenly would be able to use his shadow powers to replicate Luffy's stretching, swapping places with his invulnerable shadow, and using his own shadow as an additional body. Those things came from fucking nowhere. Of course, it's possible for a fruit to have that many unrelated abilities, and because we don't know Moria's backstory we don't have any reason to know all of them, but in general DFs grant a single, generally simple ability, that can be stretched to a certain degree. Had Moria not pulled all those weird powers, he would have died at Robin's hands.
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>>101431822
I disagree. Robin being the last of Ohara is different from Nami being blackmailed into working for arlong.
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>>101431956
The basic powers of known fruits might be listed, but some fruits can expand their power with bizarre mechanics, ie gear 2nd and 3rd and Brook's spirit powers, and I guess Kaku's craziness.
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>>101430679
>different scar
>one is a mask
go fuck yourself
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>>101431866
Try pumping blood to an arm that size with veins stretched proportionally. Oh wait, you can't.

>>101431956
>The Yami Yami was a very well known fruit,
No, Blackbeard knew of it, we don't know who else did.

>Of course, it's possible for a fruit to have that many unrelated abilities
Moriah set the precedent. Sugar's taken the bullshit to a plot related level.
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>>101423354
I wouldn't be able to handle the hnnnng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekg5npndIMI&t=0m34s
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>>101432177
nigga hes rubber
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>>101431866
>>101431854
>>101431765
>>101431665
Please stop debating the logic behind a rubber person.
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>>101431503

The rule says "one person can only have one DF power".Of course, the rule can be broken, but it's a rule deeply ingrained in OP's universe. Depending on the way the breaking is managed, it could come up as a good twist or a bad asspull. Personally, I prefer when this kind of things are done by a villain. If Luffy were to eat the Mera Mera right now and become a rubber/fire man, wouldn't that be awful? But Blackbeard is an unknown character that could very well have gathered some info other people doesn't know.

I called it an asspull but I shouldn't, I didn't want it to come as insulting. In general, breaking such an important rule in your own universe counts as an asspull. The way Oda did it was pretty good, it's obvious he was going for a good shock with Blackbeard so I'd say he used it pretty well.

My point here >>101425498
was, I prefer when the universe's rules are broken by villains
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>>101426473
> the Sanji-nosebleed plot point was retarded.
Yeah, I agree.

Instead of drawing that shit, he could have been focusing on developing Shyarly and Den's relationships with Arlong and Tom and show us the god damn Fishman Dojo.
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>>101432221
her voice holy shit
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>>101432221
>>101432451
Daily reminder that she's a grown fucking woman.
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>>101432177
>Blackbeard knew of it, we don't know who else did.

If BlackBeard had some way to get the info, other characters should be able to get the info as well. If BB had info about the Yami Yami, it's because there was a previous user who died, and there's no reason for BB to be the only person to know about the previous Yami Yami user.
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>>101432504
>she is perfectly legal
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How exactly does Miss Goldenweek work if she doesn't have a DF ability?
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>>101432177

The amount of blood he lost against Crocodile made his heart an inhumane pumping machine.

Besides, he's never in Gear 3rd mode for a time long enough to start suffering the lack of blood in the inflated limb.
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>>101430795
actually it was shown in a japanese show(of course i don't have the youtube link with me, as it was posted here years ago) that he actually has a huge chart of what he has planned for the future and what he has already shown, in other words while there may be things he is doing with the method you mentioned or adds new plotlines out of his ass, most of the main plot is indeed planned out more than most mangaka(especially weekly mangaka) do.
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>>101432587
Some form of hypnotism I think it was
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>>101432587

hypnotizes them i think. because why not
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>>101431956
> Yami Yami was a very well known fruit
Wrong, it was just documented in the devil fruit book that rarely anyone has read.

>if it had the power to steal another DF, people would already know
Absolutely retarded.

>As with Moriah, by asspulls
They weren't asspulls, time and time again the strongest devil fruit users are often those who are the most creative and trained with their devil fruits.
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>>101432587

She doesn't? Well, maybe it's a weird form of Conqueror Haki that can only be expressed through paint? Or, more seriously, a weird form of hypnosis. There are other two characters who use that ability.
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>>101432596
>>101432177
Your logic means nothing in this manga. It's a big fucking arm. Not even Oda takes that shit so seriously.
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>>101424388
Is that eminem ?
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>>101432257
>>101432254
Jesus fucking christ you guys, suspension of disbelief only works to a certain degree. You can say "this fruit makes him made of rubber" and that's suspending it. You can say "he pumps his blood and effectively oxygen dopes" and that's suspending it, but it also has real world implications, so sure. Then you go from that same powerup to a gigantic balloon arm and try to emphasize that it works and I'm sorry, no, you just established one thing, you can't go against that for another thing.

>>101432505
I know, moron, but Blackbeard said he read it in a catalogue and only he and Sanji have ever mentioned such things, we don't know how complete or rare this catalogue is so we can't assume everyone else just knows the basic shit.

>>101432596
>he's never in Gear 3 long enough
What is Elephant Gatling for 200, Alex, while he was bleeding out the shoulder too. See also: it takes blood 1minute to do a round around the body. 1 Minutes is all it takes to kill the Lufes.
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>>101432672
Not everything is Haki. CoC doesn't work that way, to begin with.

Psychics and hypnotists are canon in the One Piece world (Disco, Shyarly, Nami, etc).
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>>101432666
>Wrong, it was just documented in the devil fruit book that rarely anyone has read.

That means that even people like Sanji could know about it

>Absolutely retarded.
Delightful resort, full of wonderful arguments. No one knew about it, BB only had a hunch about how would the Yami Yami work, a hunch that none of its previous users had. His special body doesn't have anything to do with it.

>They weren't asspulls, time and time again the strongest devil fruit users are often those who are the most creative and trained with their devil fruits.
Swapping places with his shadow isn't a creative use of his power, it's something totally unrelated to the shadow manipulation he was doing until then.
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>>101432587
The colors she uses are pure essence of emotion.
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>>101432769
>I know, moron, but Blackbeard said he read it in a catalogue and only he and Sanji have ever mentioned such things, we don't know how complete or rare this catalogue is so we can't assume everyone else just knows the basic shit.

Well, but at least the higher ranks among the Marines of someone from ALL THE PEOPLE in Marineford would surely know something about a fruit that could potentially steal other fruits. It's a book anyone can have access to.
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>>101432587
Same thing as Django
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>>101432899
>even people like Sanji
>even someone raised by someone who had charts and logs from up to the New World
Nigga do you even thinking
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>>101432769

Do you realize you're reading a manga where you can survive 100000 volts if you train hard enough right?
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>>101432769
I'm not saying any of that shit you listed. I'm just taking it at face value that he somehow puffs his arm up and punches shit. That's all I need to know about how it works. There are no established rules about how puffed up bones work, so damnit it is what it is. You already know Oda wouldn't even bother giving a serious answer to a question like this.
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>>101432899
I was going to say Sanji also read it, but that does not mean the text is rare.

His devil fruit has nothing to do with gaining two powers, there are all kinds of factors, his unique body, him having the Will of D, him possibly gaining knowledge from Drum kingdom (since doctors or scientists have shown knowledge of devil fruits, Choppers rumble, or Vegapunk's artificial fruits. The fact that you completely claim that it his devil fruit alone is like I said, absolutely retarded.
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>>101433102
isn't rare*

Also no one else knew of the ability to gain devil fruits, your theory is stupid.
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who is more alpha, Pink or Doffman?
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>>101432820

I was kidding with Haki, if Miss Goldenweek turned out to have CoC I'd be so mad.

>>101433025
I don't care about unimportant people, but the world is filled with people, and practically anyone in WB crew and Marineford or any part of the New World should have access to the same info about the fruit BB had. The point was just that stealing another power isn't just something particular to the Yami Yami, but something particular to BB. Otherwise, people would know the fruit can do that and no one would be that surprised at Marineford when BB did it.

I don't know why do I keep argue, the original point I was talkng about was forgotten long ago.
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>>101433202
Lao G
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>>101433202
Pinku

Doffy is betamax
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>>101424407
>If it's not, then I'm gonna go ring someone's doorbell and run away.
Holy shit, hardcore.
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>>101432976
>would surely know something about a fruit that could potentially steal other fruits.
Meaning it isn't the fucking fruit that's doing it and it's his body that makes it possible to hold 2 and that they have some method of stealing them and giving them to other people.

>It's a book anyone can have access to.
Again, son, we don't know that shit.

>>101433044
That only means that Oda has no understanding of measurement, which we've seen before. He can't into proportional heights between people too often.

>>101433086
And that is entirely the problem. Gear 2 works, why? Because Oda explained it. Gear 2 has a scientific explanation, meaning Oda did some research on it. Then for Gear 3 it's just "fuck it, giant arm". That's why Gear 3 is so frustrating. He put all the effort into one ability and none into the next, which defies any natural limits of anyone with superpowers. Luffy's literal power is being rubber, and being rubber doesn't mean your body can survive without the oxygen it'd have if your blood weren't all in an arm the size of a turret.
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>>101433333
SBS is worth reading for the comedy alone.
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>>101433102

But I wasn't claiming that! My point was exactly the opposite! If stealing powers were something unique to the Yami Yami, then people would already know that, because people has already tested that fruit! BB obviously didn't take the book and read "the Yami Yami can steal powers" because then everyone else could know as well and there's no way someone like Sengoku would have been that surprised. Similarly, he can't just guess the fruit can do that, because the previous users should have been able to guess that too, since they had the fruit to test and all!! Therefore, there's something else that only BB has or knows that helped him steal the power, even if it's something related to the Yami Yami, other people wouldn't be able to do it!

How is it possible that retards always end up interpreting whatever they want in order to create a discussion!

>The fact that you completely claim that it his devil fruit alone is like I said, absolutely retarded.

Please show me where did I do that claim!
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>>101432587
Oda answered this already in an SBS

"R: I have a question, no introductions. Did Miss Goldenweek eat one of those fruits? [2]

O: No, she... how should I say this? She's kind of like a hypnotist. Those people use suggestion, and "color" in this case, to excite people and calm people, and when revved up enough can use these skills as attacks, but they do not have Devil Fruit Powers."
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>>101433403
>Again, son, we don't know that shit.
Sanji had access to that shit. Everyone in the New World should have access to it.

>Meaning it isn't the fucking fruit that's doing it and it's his body that makes it possible to hold 2 and that they have some method of stealing them and giving them to other people.

Yeah who said otherwise?
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>>101430130
Reindeer are mostly big and muscly
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>>101433526
>Sanji had access to that shit.
see
>>101433025


>Yeah who said otherwise?
>>101431129 here was.
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>>101422528
Sanji has some real fans and a lot of fake troll fans that just try to piss off all the people who hate him.
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>>101433452

>>101432666
>The Yami Yami was a very well known fruit, so, if it had the power to steal another DF,

My apologies, I missed your key word IF.
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>>101433526
do they? hell CP9 who works under the goverment didn't have that freaking book to know what the actual fruits Kaku and that secretary were given, most people in the East blue didn't even think devil fruits were real, neither did the Pirate King's crew
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>>101433609

Well, if Sanji, only by virtue of being raised by a pirate that WAS in the New Wolrd, can get it, then the wisest people from the New World should know about it. My point was that BB's info about the Yami Yami comes from a source that can be known among the marines and other New World pirates. I didn't mean "literally everyone has read this book". But seriously the original discussion has vanished so fuck it.
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When are we going to get the user of the Mizu Mizu no Mi?
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>>101433883
>so fuck it.
We at last reach an agreement!
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>>101433044
Are we all just gonna ignore Pell, cuz he seems like he'd be a prime target for this "discussion"
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>>101433876

I think the guy who gave the fruits to Kaku and Kalifa said that they were still unknown.
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>>101433998

I meant everyone who survived an attack from Enel, who would be impossible by any standards not matter how hard you train you can't improve your electrical resistance.

Pell was impossible even in universe, they had already made a tomb for him.
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>>101433876
Not every fruit is in the catalog.
>D: Hey, Odacchi! I got a question! About Devil Fruits!! If Kaku and Kalifa said they wouldn't know what their Devil Fruit were until they ate it, how come Shanks knew what Luffy's Gomu Gomu no Mi was before he ate it?? Tell me! Tell me now!! Pleeeease tell me!!! P.N. Shirogitsunekko
>O: Well, I think I'll eventually get to explaining more about Devil Fruits in the main story, but you see, there's a book of Devil Fruits. It has info about all kinds of fruit names and abilities, but few of the fruit can actually be identified by their shape. In the case of the Gomu Gomu no Mi, there was a picture and everything, but for Kaku and Kalifa, they were talking about how they wouldn't know until they had finally eaten the fruit. That was in Volume 40.
>Volume 45 SBS
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>>101433883
>>101434030
There is a theory out there that the world goverment possesses a devil fruit bank. Where they store fruits to prevent criminals from accessing them, and also using them on marines as an emergency. It's plausible because Kaku and Kalifi were given fruits, and so were Boa Hancock and her sisters, even though theyw ere given fruits purely to entertain their masters.
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>>101432769
Oh I see, you're autistic, that's fine then.
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>>101427222
Rebecca isn't joining.
Kinemon isn't either.
Violet will join
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>>101422648
NO
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>>101432254
HOW DID THAT HAPPEN
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>>101435010
Yo ho ho he took a bite of gum gum
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>>101434623
The character's home tends to label them as 'outcasts' if they're to join.
Zoro a supposedly evil pirate hunter.
Nami a greedy thief.
Usopp a liar.
Sanji a lovesick cook.
Chopper a blue nosed reindeer.
Robin the sort of orphan scholar, then later actual orphan I guess.
Franky the back alley thug.
Brook a living skeleton.

Violet/Viola was already the nation's royalty before Doflamingo took over, just acted as an officer after and thus would not be shunned by the general populace.
Kinemon we don't know much about, but as it is he has Momonosuke and some other samurai friends to return to Wano with. Rebecca and Soldier are the current outcasts, well Soldier perhaps not so much, he was able to move around and keep in touch with the dwarves, and his true identity was hidden when he became a toy. That leaves Rebecca, which apparently makes /a/ become the coliseum audience Oda is writing.
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>>101435363

You really think Rebecca will still be hated after her grandfather becomes King again, everyone regains their memories, and all of Doflamingo's acts come to light?

The ONLY character so far without a place to go and considered and "outcast" would be Bellamy.
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>>101435363
>implying based Barto isn't the true outcast.
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>>101435363
Sanji's out of place there and that throws the whole theory out.
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>>101435363
exactly, she won't be hated at the end just like how that girl actually believed in Zoro, the village actually liked Usopp, and everybody in Nami's village loved her?, how all water 7 loved Frankie by the end of the arc?
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>>101435617
>>101435363
Sanji fought with the other cooks all the time and they all didn't like him.
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>>101435617
So is Zoro, he was just passing through the town and really only Helmeppo called him evil.
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>>101435681
>how all water 7 loved Frankie
That's an exaggeration and a half.
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>>101435681

Too bad her dream is just to stay in her fucking Kingdom with the toy soldier.
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>>101435765
Somebody's never met Italians.
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>>101435526
They have few memories of Rebecca except as a gladiator, she wasn't turned into a toy. Bellamy is loved by the crowd, that's why they were really pissed at Bart winning B Block.
>>101435543
Ok.
>>101435617
The lovesick cook that annoyed everyone at the restaurant?
>>101435681
Regardless of how their feelings change at the end of the arc, which is basically how everyone's introduction arc ended, they were hated throughout their life among those people.
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>>101435802
>implying he wont rust and die like he hinted and her dream will change and she will follow her own path.
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>>101435854
I am italian.
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>>101435787
ok, but once they actually found about his relation to the Mayor, they didn't detest him or the franky family
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>>101435898
Sure.
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>>101435363
You are stretching those immensely.
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>>101435873
Rebecca seems to have been hated most of her life, Nami was never actually hated, and none of the straw hats were hated during childhood, atleast not as bad Rebbeca, except maybe Robbin
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how long will we have to wait before we see CP0 again?
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>>101436002
How so?
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>>101427869
So Koala is another one and that's what those clothes were when she ran to the tournament.
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>>101435363
Just because Viola isn't shunned doesn't mean she isn't eligible to join. Yeah she's royalty but she's been a pirate for a long time and she's presently helping overthrow a warlord, king, and celestial dragon. Fujitora himself said that the Marines would be helping him Doflamingo even if he felt reluctant. Seriously, she's the most likely one. She can't stay on Dressrosa after this is over.

Also its not like Jinbe was an outcast (at least relative to his native Fishman Island).
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>>101435877

>one piece
>dying
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>>101436159
When did Jinbe join?
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>>101436159
Jinbe doesn't count until hes actually joined.
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>>101435363
Brooke was never an outcast for being a skeleton, he didn't meet anyone but Moria's crew until the strawhats showed up.
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>>101436096
Nami's was kind of a strange situation, if you've forgotten.
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>>101436096

Rebecca wasn't hated most of her life, in fact she was just another kid in Dressrosa before she entered the Colosseum and identity was revealed.
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>>101436162
soldier-san is based on a character from a haans christian anderson fairytale and the story ends with him melting in a fire with the girl he loves
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Why everyone seems to have forgotten the frozen adult giants in punk hazard.
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>>101436159
Jinbe has not joined, and that also proves my point, he's not an outcast, FI loves him, even the royalty.
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>>101436230
he said he would join after teh Fishman Island arch, he says he can't join until he does something but he'll be back to join later
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>>101436096

Except Rebecca wasn't hated during her childhood. Read the fucking manga. She had a regular childhood before becoming a Gladiator.
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>>101436331
>125x98
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>>101436331
I forgot most of Punk Hazard. A lot of shit happened.
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>>101436308

>one piece
>dying
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>>101436405
>I forgot most of Punk Hazard
I'm glad I'm not the only one, I also forgot a lot of Fishman Island but I think that was on purpose.
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>>101436148
Those clothes intrigue me.

Were they on the ground because she discarded her disguise?
Does she knock people out of their clothes Charlie Brown style?
Can she shrink people?
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>>101436368
Doesn't have to be the entirety of their life, but the major point of it. Brook for instance was a country's soldier, then first mate and replacement captain of a happy crew.
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>>101436331

They weren't just frozen giants. They were frozen prisoners.

It's not rally surprising since we know that before Punk Hazard blew up they were experimenting on prisoners.
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>one piece will never be as good, or have that sense of adventure as it did pre-sabaody
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>>101436368
you think playing with a toy soldier and being hungry a normal childhood
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>>101436331
I think those were experimental giants, like the kids. Not sure what you're referring to otherwise, it was something of extra research Caesar was doing for himself I guess to out-do Vegapunk or something.
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>>101430795

So mad
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>>101436331
The image
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>>101436331
Pirates whose organs were used by Law, same as the rest (most of whom looked to be Impel Down escapees judging by their clothes..
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Guys, Toy Soldier had both of his legs as a toy in the flashback. So it's possible that when Sugar gets knocked out, he's going to return to full limbed top fighting shape.

As long as he keeps up the soldier fashion, I want him to join so badly.
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>>101436517

You keep moving those goal posts for some stupid requirement that doesn't exist. Rebecca wasn't hated until she joined the Colosseum. Nami's village didn't even hate her, Usopp's village was just annoyed with him, the cooks didn't hate Sanji, again, they were just annoyed with him. And no village even hated Zoro.
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>>101436563
I disagree. There's still the entire New World to explore.
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>>101436629
They're in ice and have jail uniforms so maybe they were put there by Aokiji before he left the Marines?
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>>101436629
Only Aokiji could have done this.
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>>101436629
i dont remember this at all~
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>>101436724
No he didn't.
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>>101436762
stop being a fanboy, it'll never be as good as it was during water 7 for example
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>>101436751
I wasn't the one who said she was hated most of her life, rest of the posts in that line of replies should be recognizable as me.
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>>101436852
stop being a dick
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>>101436574

She wasn't hungry at all after the Toy Soldier started taking care of her. She was provided for and had a warm place to stay. She was happy. Read the fucking manga.
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>>101436852
I'm not being a fanboy, I'm disagreeing with you. Grow up and don't tell me what to think.
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>>101436908
didn't see her playing with kids, not going to school forced to train to stay alive, read the fucking manga
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>>101436946
>>>/apforums/
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>>101436751
Usopp's village misses him, for instance. They weren't even that annoyed with him, he was part of their routine.
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>>101436851
The page before has him with two legs. He lost it in the fight.
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>>101436908
dude she saw her Mom's dead body, people in the city wish she was dead
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>>101437035
He considers himself seen as a lying outcast.

>>101437101
Its a bit hard to say for sure, it could just be the grass under him, but plausible I suppose. Yet if he's Kyros it could be the one injury he sustained. Either way, I doubt it will come back when he stops being a toy, he's not Buggy or a logia I would think.
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>>101435363
1. Childhood backstory. Check

2. Tragic story, and loss of a loved one (not every crew member lost a loved one). Check

3. Has stated a dream, a dream that may even change, well technically two dreams, living peacefully with toy soldier and using the mera mera no mi to defeat Doflamingo. Check.

4. Befriended Luffy briefly, allowing him time to prove himself to her and make her respect him. Check.

5. Has the ability to fight. Check.

Rebecca confirmed for nakama. However her role/job on the crew is still unclear...
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>>101436908
missed the flash back saying "mommy I'm hungry" read the fucking manga
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This is purely speculation, but what if it was both Blackbeards body AND fruit that let him take Whitebeards fruit?
He has a special body, and his fruit can "drain" other devil fruit powers, maybe he uses the Yami to take the powers and stores them with his special body.
He could also maybe be using the Yami to suppress the fruit powers in his stomach until he needs them or something.
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>>101437297
Indeed, its pretty much as abstract as Robin, but well basically anyone would be at this point.
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>>101437305
That might explain why he was so dedicated to finding the fruit.
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>>101436966
>>101437203

>didn't see her playing with kids

Read the fucking manga. Kids even gave her love letters. You motherfuckers never remember jackshit about the manga you love so much. And again they didn't wish she was dead until her identity as the King's granddaughter was revealed much later.

>>101437301

That was for a short time when her mother was hunted down. She didn't go hungry again when the toy soldier was raising her.
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>>101437297
forgot to say 6. Seems like an outcast. Check.
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>>101437287
So? This is about what they are not how they see themselves.
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What exactly makes BB's body 'special'?
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>>101437415
He's Jewish
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>>101437287
What I am proposing is that if he had both of his legs when he was turned into a toy, the ability "remembers" his form from before and damage that he sustains as a toy doesn't carry over to his human form.
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>>101437415
D
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>>101437369
soldier chasing off kids, normal child hood read the fucking manga
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>>101437297
Vivi confirmed for joining strawhats.
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>>101437386
Its a bit of both, they were treated as outcasts, and saw themselves as such, with a few odd variables thrown in to the mix like Nami.
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>>101437506
I can see it happening.
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>>101436277
He drifted alone at sea for 50 years.
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>>101437506
Nope, her childhood story wasn't tragic at all. and she was never an outcast.
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>>101437369
remember when she was being attacked by some robbers but then the soldiers fought them off, and then he became a wanted man, so they were basically wanted homeless
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>>101437472
Slightly possible, but I would still say unlikely, that's more Law's ability, even after he cuts you, you can reattach your pieces just fine, ie Kinemon, but his fruit is literally part doctor-ish, a toy fruit wouldn't really care about the victim's well being.
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>>101437504

I'm getting trolled. How can "people despise her" when handing her a love letter? And you see her playing with kids on the right panel.
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>>101437369
she could have you don't know for sure
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>>101437620
Not because he was an outcast, because his friends died and then his shadow was stolen so he couldn't leave the fog bank.
>>101437631
It was and being an outcast was already proven to not be necessary.
>>101437687
He must be trolling at this point.
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>>101437297

Rebecca's dream is too shit/will be resolved this arc for it to actually count. Other than Brooke and arguably Usopp all the the Strawhats have worldwide dreams that affect/require the world's participation.

Shit dude, your checklist fits Viola. Is she going to join? I hope so. It'd be nice to have a girl with a big latin booty and lips on the crew.
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>>101437369
>ヒラ ヒラ
Oda!
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>>101437470
Zehahaha
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>>101437771
Chopper and Sanji could sort of achieve their dreams through other means.
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>>101437793
My Japanese is pretty rusty, but is that "hira hira"?
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>>101437793
Toy Soldier confirm for Diamond Squad.
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>>101422528
Zorofags don't push for his greatness. We act like
Nothing happened here .
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>>101437904
Yep.
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>>101437771
That's why I said her dream will change. Toy Soldier hinted and rusting, meaning he may die and her dream will have to change where she can follow her own path. That path will be with the Strawhats since she isn't needed as an heir to the throne because Viola is still alive.
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>>101437369
>it's the same kid that realized he had feelings
Oh god.
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>>101435765
Nobody liked each other at Baratie.
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>>101438276
They loved each other nigga.
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>>101430101
When? Their fighting styles revolve around speed, not muscle strength.
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>>101437297
>not every crew member lost a loved one
The exception is Sanji, but I'm rooting for the "his mother was a whore" theory
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>>101438261
How's that? The nose seems too different, I'll let you slide on him maybe getting thinner and growing out his hair.
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>>101436399
thatsthejoke.avi
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>>101438261
it isn't, the bully is the fat kid in the black shirt, the kid with the lover letter is on the right, under the giraffe
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>>101438531
Well it's not a very funny one.
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>>101438388

Read the fucking manga. You fucks are forgetting shit that's happening in this arc.
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>>101438388
You can punch someone 4' into the ground?
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>>101438430
I would imagine his family was on the boat he was riding, and that shit sunk
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>>101438261
Are you blind?
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>>101438606
Even if they weren't there, I think starving for 3(?) months makes up for it in tragedy.
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>>101438606
I hardly believe that this detail would be omitted in his flashback
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I think Kuina might be Tashigi.
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>>101438594
The pages are being turned into toys
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>>101438453
>How's that?
Lips, brows are the same. Nose s the same shape, it's just being bent in the first one. Since he lost weight, the nose got thinner too, and he's trying to be cool with the hair and glasses. Plus both of his shirts are (I assume) the same kinda gag, second one most likely meaning "I'm sorry"
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>>101438738
So Tashigi is a zombie? It's not like they didn't recover Kuina's body.
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I love One Piece but the blatant fanboyism is killing me

>author reread chapters from years ago
>oh I guess I'll incorporate this chapter and pretend it was foreshadowing all along!
>fanboys: HOLY SHIT ODASAMA YOU ARE A GENIUS

This kind of shit seems endemic to one piece threads.
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>>101436308
And Sanji is based off of Mr. Pink, is everyone on the SH crew gonna kill one another while Sanji gets out alive only to be arrested by the marines?

Oda doesn't wantonly kill characters unless the death will have a huge impact on our MC or the world of OP itself.
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>>101438702
I hardly believe the detail of where is his family now is being ommitted but ok, what about his friend chefs that died? they were like big brothers to him
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>>101438849
this

for fucks sake in this very thread I said one piece will never be as good as it was in water 7 and you have retards opposing that
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>>101438738
Everyone has a doppelganger, I think Duval proved that.
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>>101438797
Both their lips are swollen from being punched, as it is weird face faults tend to share features for Oda.
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>>101438868
Explain how the death of Gol D. Roger impacted the world or Luffy.
You can't
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>>101438890
Let me guess, did you ever get something like a "parkranger pls go" type of response every time you criticized One Piece?
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>>101438931
>Explain how the death of Gol D. Roger impacted the world
>You can't
>It brought about the new age of piracy
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I say Rebecca won't join because she has yet to use a named attack. You have to have an exploitable fighting style to join the strawhats. Every other strawhat had a named attack by this point in their arc save for the Original 2.
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>>101438601
Oh shit never ntoiced they were actually punched to the point where they are stuck and underneath the ground. Thanks for proving me wrong.
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>>101438849
We saw you earlier. We explained no, he probably didn't remember he reread, that doesn't make it any less good writing.

>>101438890
>for fucks sake in this very thread I said one piece will never be as good as it was in water 7 and you have retards opposing that
Because that's an opinion you twat.
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>>101438931
>Explain how the death of Gol D. Roger impacted the world
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>>101438973
no, people here are probably too new to even remember porky of all people.

Seriously, the quality of op threads have deteriorated quite a lot
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>>101438890
Why are you agreeing with yourself?
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>>101438931
It gave him a dream to pursue, it left him a brother that was major part of his life.
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>>101438849
>>101430795
>>101423900

Stop reposting this shit. People like you get on my fucking nerves. You have to go out of your way to let everybody know how dumb they are for enjoying something you think is "so simple".

Take your pretentious opinion and fuck off, please.
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>>101438890
Because it's not true, maybe?
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>>101438985
The mera mera no mi is up for grabs, I don't recall Nami having a named attack before Usopp made her climatact. I'd really stretch it by saying Brook joined when he was introduced, sort of.
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Look mom, I samefagged again!
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>>101438849
There is two kind, there is the one you are talking about and the one that we often talk about. How to differentiate them? Well, common sense and the fact that things true foreshadowing isn't done only on minor details, but also on major and not so major plot points. But anyway, you have to give him credits for not retconing every arc.
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>>101439049
It's probably the influx of kids from forums like AP or mangahelper.

I saw aanother fucking strawpoll thread the other day, and said to myself "please don't be one piece please don't be one piece". And guess what? It was a fucking one piece thread
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>>101439058
>>101439036
>>101439099
>defence force mobilized
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>>101438890
Who the fuck do you think you are that your opinion is so special?
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>>101439118
The Original 2 are Zoro and Nami.
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>>101439131
I don't mind the strawpolls but what I do mind are the fucktarded power ranking and it's very clear from the way people write who's from arlongpissforums and who isn't

>>101439186
>>>/apforums/
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>>101439123
>>101439081
>>101439186
>>101439058
>this samefag

At lease change your wordchoice kid.
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>>101439196
Come to think of it, Zori didn't use a named attack before joining either.
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Stop giving him replies, fuckwads.
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>>101439131
>I saw aanother fucking strawpoll thread the other day, and said to myself "please don't be one piece please don't be one piece". And guess what? It was a fucking one piece thread
What the HELL kind of criteria is that? There are like thirty strawpolls made a day.
http://archive.foolz.us/a/search/text/%22strawpoll%22/
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>>101439118
A logia with incredible dodging ability is fucking retarded. Her fighting style being rewritten by the mera mera is the main reason why she isn't going to get it.

Now, the Firestorm of Dressrosa, Hakuba on the other hand...
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>>101439259
>I don't mind the strawpolls but what I do mind are the fucktarded power ranking

Well that's the thing, it was a strawpoll about power ranking.

It's usually that or "who's the next nakama" poll
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>>101424580
When Roger tried to utilize the power of the One Piece, it destroyed his body, because it's power was too much for him to contain. He spent his last few years traveling the world looking for the best way to utilize said power, realizing that the human body would need to be able to adapt to the immeasurable amount of power being poured into it. For that to happen someone's body would need to be able to break apart, or be made out of rubber... but how could that happen?
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>>101439323
A swordsman with a logia? Zori would murder him for tarnishing the sword.
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>>101439261
Wrong, and the two that I responded on were different posts.
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>>101438849
Oda doesn't plan everything ahead.

Armament Haki was pretty much planned out relatively recently. That's why people like Ace and Croc don't have it.
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>>101439413
>not using any 4chan apps
pleb
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>>101439413
>huurrr it's hard to edit html inline


You're more computer illiterate than my grandmother
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>>101439439
As they hadn't already conquered the world with their almost invulnerability I doubt it.
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>>101439439
Ace and Croc didn't have it because they were jobbers. That's why Croc still didn't have it in Marineford. He was always low tier.
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>>101439493
You are so much of an overwhelming faggot it's cringeworthy.
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>>101439272
And now you just realized that Anon made up that "must have a named attack" rule
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>>101439577
Well no shit, just thinking over these minor details is amusing in itself.
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>>101439439

Seriously, this.

I still remeber CP 9's "totally not a proto-haki" powers, which are all the effects of Haki by a different name. Haki is the one thing where it REALLY shows Oda hammered out the details as he went along.

I'm still mad that he reconnected Shanks scaring away that ell into magic bullshit. Ruined the moment for me retroactively.
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>>101439531
I mean did they needed it?, their attakcs dont need to make other people body solid, I mean Smoker used it but thats because he can't really hit people with smoke, but some like magma or fire would hurt regardless, its not like they are doing blunt damage, and why does Smoker have the most useless logia fruit ever?
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>>101439703
Smoker hits people with smoke all the time.
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>>101427479
Sorry to burst the bubble but Oda already revealed that that wasn't Absalom's face. The lion certainly was where he got his muzzle from, but the face on the lion wasn't Absalom's
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>>101437771
I unironically think Viola might join. Hell, she has better reasons to join than Rebecca.

I think Oda has hyped Rebecca so people will think she'll join, just to bait-and-switch at the last minute for Viola. Rebecca's dream is to stay on Dressrosa with Toy Soldier, Viola said she planned on leaving. Both are royalty but one is already a pirate and outlaw. Rebecca is a boring sword user, Viola we've barely seen fight but she's an executive officer and assassin in Doflamingo's crew.

We're not even getting to the fact the Viola is with Luffy near the climax of the arc and Rebecca is still at the coliseum.

I can't wait until we get to see Viola fight. If she has some fun/silly fighting style you'd expect of Oda (probably something to do with dance) then you know she's going to join.
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made a new thread.
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>>101439439
Oda didn't state that they didnt have it,they just weren't shown using it.

Perhaps it wasn't as refined since they were logias,but they should know about it since they are New World Regulars
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>>101439874
That's what I said like four times.
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>>101440006
Ace fought smoker but couldn't actually damage him. "A fight between our powers will get us nowhere."
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>>101439874
>>101440018
Oda didn't say it one way or another.



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