So does it get better at some point ?
Because right now, the anime is slow, boring, cliché and just unfunny.
Even SHAFT can save it.
Manga is boring, don't know how you say that shaft would save it.
feels uncliche to me, it's not normal for the mc's of a romance show to be apart of the yakuza
>Even SHAFT CAN save it.
I like this attitude
Dude, it's shaft, don't expect more than a "meh tier" anime.
Get out while you can, OP.
That is, unless you like straight lines a lot, in which case SHAFT may deliver some nice backgrounds.
But the story is shit, it would need a 90% anime original route to be saved, and it's already not possible anymore.
It become worse
>slow, boring, cliché and just unfunny
So is the manga.
>that fucking ribbon
Who cares about the plot?
This show is awesome.
Shaft can't save this. God couldn't save Nisekoi.
There will be dozens more girls added and they all could have been the girl from back then and it's not going to get better
b-b-bu-bu-bububu-but SHAFT is the only studio to produce two 70k+ shows in the past decade!!
I don't see any of the things you complained about in the anime at all.
It might help if you saw the show, then you'd know exactly what he was talking about.
It's all clichés. All of it. Look up any random romcom trope you could ever think of and it will be in Nisekoi.
I was getting physically ill from watching it so I'm reading through the manga to get it out of my system and it has not surprised me at all so far.
Forget anyone besides Chitoge 'first girl' Kirisaki winning. That or a harem stalemate.
Tsugumi who should appear in the anime soon is really cute and so is Onodera but Maiko is a useless fucking cockblocker and so is Onodera's sister.
>tfw Kosaki imouto will never show up in the anime
Are you retarded? This is one of the best shows of the season. All the characters are likable and the visuals are exceptional, as expected of SHAFT.
This joyful comment on the bottom side makes me almost sad that I hate his stupid manga and even stupider anime so much.
If you don't like toast in mouth you should just kill yourself
>The courage to samefag your own thread
It's cliche as fuck but I like it.
Maybe I'm desensitized?
Also, fuck Chitoge.
>it becomes a harem with an imouto
I take it back, it's actually shit
I watch the show for Ruri
It's both good and bad to me. Cliche yes, but it's just entertaining, and the art style has grown on me.
I can see dropping it soon though, the key thing is starting to wear on me.
Fuck you, she's one of the best tsunderes in years
>hating best imouto
>talking shit about Shu
Why? He's the bro-est bro character I've seen in a while. Nice seeing a Sunohara character that's pretty smart and might actually get a girl by the end.
Why, you're absolutely right.
And she's absolute shit, go figure.
The character wasn't fun in Ranma and she's not fun in Nisekoi either. Her whole existance revolves around cockblocking and then getting flustered but forgetting about it the next time she appears.
As expected of SHAFTfags
Okay, I agree that the show is slow, boring, cliche, and unfunny, but if you don't like girls running late to school with toast in their mouth, you should light a fire and die in it.
>Even SHAFT can save it
>SHAFT is the one ruining it
It's a mediocre slapstick romantic-comedy and SHAFT is trying to turn it into some fucking big HEADTILT HUGE DRAMA anime, which it clearly isn't meant to be. Parts of the manga have the tiniest hints of drama but that's all.
>Thinking Chitoge is a good example of the tsundere archetype
You're the cancer that's killing the anime industry. Do the world a favor and kill yourself.
This shit is selling only for shaft.
Why didn't they animate medaka instead of this piece of shit?
You forgot to mention that she fell on the clueless MC and later turned out to be the new student in his class.
Nisekoi was shit with the first chapter in the manga, how could shaft save it ?
People liking this shit should kill themselves.
Don't worry they'lll eeeeehhhhh some more once the reverse trap arrives and then later again when the third childhood promise girl appears.
Don't forget the part where they try to unlock the locket and the key breaks.
>Shit talking based Shuunohara
Haha, SHAFT animating Medaka, good one anon.
We're not good enough to deserve such a beautiful sight.
>starts as full tsun and slowing becoming more and more dere every episode
>minimal physical violence
>actually has a personality and a heart underneath
I don't know what is bad about her.
Alright in the beginning and gets stagnant too soon.
This is your typical "Oh I kinda have a girl friend and how unfortunate another girl is top of me" Of course, this goes on while they are interrupted inevitably by something/someone.
Save yourself some time.
>minimal physical violence
If minimal physical violence means getting naru punched atleast once in every chapter she's in then sure.
Physical violence is irrelevant, really. The fact is that she's not tsundere, she's that generic bipolar-tsundere. She has a binary switch that flips her from one extreme end of the spectrum to the other
only thing worth watching in this show is Chitoge's butt
it uses the cliches straight and honest with none of that pretentious "better-than-thou" meta commentary trashing on cliches in an effort to somehow say it's better
it's far from a master piece, and some chapters can be better but it still delivers in some good old romcom fun
She only actually hit him a couple times in 4 episodes, as opposed to someone like Taiga who tried to beat MC to death in the first episode
She's getting more and more dere already
Has there been any kissing in the manga?
Good thing they're moving through the second year. Unless the pacing slows down there's only like 100 chapters left of it at the most.
Gorilla is the worst girl and most violent
No,it's a VERY VERY generic Harem so don't expect anything outside Status Quo
The manga doesn't count, it's garbage
>memory loss chapter
The anime is even worse
not even remotely
Hardly. She'll still "get caught" being nice and then start blushing and stuttering and she'll call him a baka
You must be extremely new to this anime/manga thing.
Why would anyone even like a violent Gorilla, I don't know
All of Nisekoi was solved in akame ga kill in a pan of 6 pages.
It's become self-aware
You could appreciate it if you stop sucking Shaft's dick
Now the protagonists only have to make their own cliche filled manga in the manga.
Prove him wrong then if he's so new. Frankly, I don't see the point in everyone complaining about Nisekoi being generic since they rarely ever show why or how it is, let alone how it's any more or equally "generic" as anything else in the genre. The fact that posts like >>101419443 even exist is just embarrassing, since it claims the show is so full of romcom tropes, and yet it can't even mention one.
I'll take the bait. Try reading Ranma 1/2 but remove the supernatural and martial arts and you've got Nisekoi.
ITT: Shaft Fags trying to defend generic shit
ranma 1/2 had interesting side characters though
this has nothing
So you have one manga that essentially helped define the harem formula created over 20 years ago to prove that Nisekoi is "generic?" And you're saying I'm posting bait?
lol at "cliche and unoriginal". Yes you've watched hundreds of romcoms so you're able to spot similarities but overall I think this is okay.
>B-but I read the manga and best girl doesn't win!
Enjoy the ride and stop being a faggot. Do people seriously root for a girl to win like this is some type of reality show? If doesn't matter.
I'm only watching it for SHAFT at this point
How new are you if you don't know what shipping wars are? Of course people want the "best" couple to win.
just stop being a faggot and accept that not everybody can be as lowbrow as you
Yakuza romance is very common. I just Googled it and came up with plenty of titles.
I also just finished a drama that was a high school yakuza romcom. Not anime, but that plot is everywhere.
Stop blaming everything on how new someone is. Just because it's established doesn't make it any less stupid.
>Of course people want the "best" couple to win.
But watching the show for only this reason? Go watch a drama faggot.
>strongly hinting at a 4th key-girl
What's the fucking point. The winner has been decided since the first chapter.
Jesus, this place is beyond saving.
I want more Koyasu and his character getting a grill.
The only possible "winners" are Onodera or Chitoge.
That is not to say the girl is one of those two.
In a universe somewhere I'm drawing a manga where I'll introduce a love interest halfway through the series only to make her the winner.
See, Ranma was primarily comedy and martial arts. Ryouga was more important than any of the girls but Akane. It really wasn't a harem by the modern standard at all.
Nisekoi is just shit.
SHAFt isn't a good fit on this show, J.C.Staff could do a better job if they handed it to the people who did Heneko.
>his lock has many keys
what a shitty lock
It's a nice change with the gangsters setting but Chitoge is really keeping me watching it, Onodera i a boring shy girl who is too scared to do anything.
Chitoge is a cutie tsun.
It would be cute and little else, nothing can save it.
>Mc-kun, kiss me.
>Eh? I randomly fell asleep so I couldn't hear you
I would have dropped this early on if Onodera wasn't so damn cute.
fucking this. i wish MC would drop onodera already. shes getting way too much screentime.
As generically bad you guys seem to make the manga out to be, I'm enjoying the show so far. Say what you will about SHAFT but their fast paced style works great for stuff like this.
Raku is not pretending to not notice though. He seriously is dense. Don't group him together with Kodaka.
They're taking a boring series and fucking with it. I'd rather that than a loyal adaptation of something undeserving of one.
Yea sorry, I usually like tsundere's but she's awful. All she does is complain about how horrid it is having to fake a relationship with him all the time, bitch and complain some more, then tell us all how much she hates MC for the 500th time. Her dere consists of writing in a journal about how much she doesn't like him then adding he might have a few good qualities. Onodera actually likes him, unlike Shitoge who starts to like him but continues to verbally shit all over his face constantly. It's not even just her, MC does the same shit too. It's getting old of them bitching about how much they hate each other every episode, with like 2 minutes of them actually talking to each like normal human beings without acting like they're mortal enemies. Onodera best girl.
At least with Chitoge you get something other than "hurr should I show him the key or not?"
Onodera is most boring of all girls, and has zero character development of all girls. Only her imouto is shittier since she annoying.
Chitoge may be bitch and cunt but her design is delicious.
Onodera has a great design too, especially when they do closeups on her face.
Has best girl shown up yet?
How could anyone not love such a perfect angel?
the hell are you on? Are you talking about Mein?
It's cliche but enjoyable
Should appear in ep 7, she first appears in ch 15 and they've been doing 2.5 ch/ep.
But I want her now!
Yeah, that's exactly the reason why I can't root for her. Her interactions with Raku infuriate me. She could win easily if she just did SOMETHING. Chitoge on the other hand has to fight against the image she built and her own tsun tsun.
Well, guess who's more sympathetic?
Don't get me started on Marika. She's an useless extra that shouldn't exist in the first place. Reverse Trap is okay too, I guess. And Onodera-imouto is less insufferable as of late.
Fuck the main cast of this show. All I want is for the supporting cast to get together.
You should hear her voice and get a silhouette at the end of ep 6 if that helps.
>promise from ten years ago
Does she have a key too?
Just read the manga or wait.
I'm still betting she does
No it was something else, but I don't remember.
Also for anyone wondering when Marika will appear it probably won't be till the second cour.
the manga was created to appeal to the lowest common denominator, shonen jump readers
/a/ likes it cause it's pretty and nicely animated (sasuga shaft) but the plot isn't only horrible but full of cliches as well
Oh come on it can't possibly be anywhere near as bad as you're making it sound
I mean yeah the episodes have been pretty bland so far but at least we've got gangsters
I'd take a simple girl over a bitch any day.
the harem grows and grows and grows and even at the current chapter its showing no signs of slowing down
>so cliche blabhblah
That's like me going up to you and saying.
>Anon, why are you fucking eating that cake. You've eaten that cake before.
>B-but I enjoy cake
>Fuck you've had that same cake before just made by a different bakery. Just stop. This bakery should fucking stop selling cakes.
>Go away, I'm trying to eat my cake.
>She could win easily if she just did SOMETHING
I hope Raku infuriates you just as much, because the same applies to him. One bit of honesty towards Onodera and he'll have the girl he longs for.
And hey, at least Onodera has tried. Author's act of god to stop her whenever she does though, like the baseball smashing the window, or Raku magically dozing for the duration of a single line.
I can't recall Raku working up the nerve to do anything other than the one time he asked her if she was the girl from 10 years ago. (And then he ate an author's act of god via an interrupting phone call from Tsugumi)
Yeah I heard there gets to four girls eventually
Stupid yeah but there's been bigger harems out there
Isn't anyone watching it because it's so painfully generic and predictable?
If that cake is bland as fuck and tries absolutely nothing new to spice up the taste then yeah. Fuck that cake.
Also were now at Donald Duck tier plot.
If anything I think shaft did a good job at getting the art style down.
At least you tried.
Your taste buds probably can't tell the difference between good cake and shitty idol cakes.
its up to 6 or 7 right now with another one about to be introduced
So /a/ doesn't like this show? It's probably worth picking up then.
Seto No Hanayome - A boy has to marry a mermaid girl, who's dad is part of the yakuza.
There's also a manga I read recently where the guy falls in love with a girl who's dad is part of the yakuza (will look up the manga).
Also, you have the usual, girl or guy in the relationship is a gang member, or part of the yakuza themselves. The only thing separating this from the others, is that there both part of a dangerous group.
Well there's Chitoge and Kosaki for starters. Then Tsugumi and Marika joins in shortly after. Most recently Onodera's little sister joined the harem and then there's the heavily implied 4th key girl hiding somewhere.
Ruri is strictly in bro-tier.
Who the hell are all these sluts with Chitoge and Onadora?
Maybe the author is going to do this. Maybe the last arc will break every harem convention. Maybe he's been conditioning us all just so he can watch and laugh at us shitting bricks.
yes at the end of romeo and juliet play arc
it's also when Chitoge realizes she's in love with Raku
Wait did they actually kiss?
For some reason all I can remember about that arc is being pissed off because everyone was stupid
Orange is Marika, third key holder.
Girl laying on Onadora's ass is Ruri, you already know her, strictly her wingman, not in harem.
White is Paula, Tsugumi wingman, not currently in harem.
Girl behind Chitoge is Onodora's little sister, Haru, is one chapter a way form officially join the harem.
Red, behind Haru, is her best friend, Nothing known.
Blue, Tsugumi, Send by Claude to kill Raku if he's unfaithful to Chitoge, part of harem, Only one of main four not known to have a key.
Ichigo 100% nigga
Yes but in all fairness it wasn't planned that way at all
Mangaka just had a sudden attack of common sense
Onadora's imouto wants to NTR her?
What a shit imouto
Kosaki is the only sane Onodera woman
her mother and sister are nuttier than squirrel poop
I don't get why people keep calling this shit. It's pretty enjoyable and the characters are cute. It does have a pretty bad plot, but then again I'm not reading it for the plot. Who reads a harem for the plot anyway? It reminds me of Love Hina which is the only other harem I can stand.
Winner was introduced right at the start of Ichigo 100%.
Well, she wanted to protect her sister because, not knowing that Raku isn't really dating Chitoge, she thinks he is a two timer who is trying to take advantage of her sister.
She just learned the truth, and she wants to support the two of them, but it also turns out that she's grown to like him. We don't know yet whether or not she'll bury her feelings for her sister's sake or push forward on her own.
oh come on how crazy could they be if sweet innocent little Onadora grew up with them
>Who reads a harem for the plot anyway?
Apparently a lot of people do.
She'll bury them deep, deep down if she knows what's good for her.
It's complicated, and the current active plot of the manga. This is the last page of the most recent chapter.
And if she threatens to out Raku and Chitoge's secret?
If he says the fireworks drowned out what she said I'm going to break something
Something cheap I don't need, but still something
As usual anime only fags are shit. I didn't even like the manga much, but reasons anime fag hate this include:
It's a harem
The plot sucks
I hate misunderstandings (aka I want the manga to be 2 chapters.)
>Sorry the firework made me fall asleep, what did you say?
Unlikely given that card was burn uselessly on the previous page.
If you read the manga he's been telling her that it was him for a while, but she just didn't believe it.
Am I the only one who enjoy this. I suck for romance and teenage love ;_;
So, what, he's asking him to say it again and she'll just believe it now even though she never did before?
I love shitty harem manga and anime and I always have. I'm reading this to the end.
very, Onodera only acts like her mother when "drunk"
I only read it for the Tsugumi and Onodera chapters.
There's a lot to enjoy here with the characters, dialogue, the setting, etc.
Unfortunately there's also a lot that gets in the way of everything we like which makes it frustrating as hell
Because now she got to know him more. She used to think he was a bad person and that he couldn't have been the person that helped her.
Guys, I figured out the ultimate plot twist to save Nisekoi.
That girl from the past is YOU[/spoiler}
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But now she ready to believe now that she knows that he's not a shitty two-timer who's trying to have her sister on the side.
Her mother's a slut?
>getting drunk on 1 piece of chocolate
This shit also happened in the Chuuni ova. Atleast have some balls and make them actually drink something.
I am too
I love these types of animu/manga
ctrl + s
That isn't allowed
Minors drinking is a real easy way to get the censorship board jumping down your throat
I'm loving it.
Though I'd suck anything with Shinbo"s name on it.
I don't know what people are complaining about.
The writing is just as good if not better than anything else airing this season.
They can't all be bakemonos guys.
I'm the 4th girl?
Wow it so deep and meta.
I'm going to search my key maybe I just forget it.
It also explain why is MC such a faggot.
her mother is pretty forward and tends to do and say what she feels...so yeah, by anonymous' standards she is a slut.
her mother actually wanted her to get together with Raku and have his babies
You need to turn keybinding on in 4chanX and refresh the page first.
It only gets worse.
The mangaka made it as terrible and cliched as he could as a fuck you for Double Arts getting canceled
Wasn't she teasing the imouto over that as well?
/a/ hates this but somehow loves Witchcraftworks when it's just as shittty if not worse than this. Dammit /a/ why are you guys so easy to be fooled.
I love you anons
/a/ doesn't hate this. It's just a vocal minority.
I've been putting this show off for the longest time but now my backlog is finally empty and I need something to fill the void.
Best sub group?
/a/ doesn't hate anything
we are just tsundere
Well, people see Madoka and Bake and think Shaft is a studio that is consistently good, but they've made more shit than good.
This is just a return to the norm for them
>they've made more shit than good
Nigger, the fuck you say?
Every single thing they've ever touched has been solid gold.
>Upside down lips
Finally got in touch with my Polish roommate from student exchange, and he explained that "zawsze in love" to me.
Firstly, "zawsze" means "always", not "forever"(that would be "na zawsze"). So people translating it as "forever in love" are wrong.
Secondly, she thinks that the author just tried to use same structure as in english, which would be "zawsze w miłości"[za-v-sheh v mee-uo-shi-ci?], and then realized that they woudn't have Polish fonts in the typesetting department(I actually copypasted that as well), and changed it to "zawsze in love".
Thirdly, while that apparently is gramatically correct, she said she'd just say "zawsze zakochani"(apparently same thing in meaning, just using a verb instead)or something similar. However Polish verbs change based on gender and person(including singular/plural) amongst other things, so the author could've just said NOPE, as Japanese verbs apparently don't change at all, or she didn't want to spoil something.
what exactly are you getting at?
Some /a/nons asked about that, so I deliver.
Late, but still.
This made me laugh a lot harder that it should've
Then they threaten to throw the yakuza/mafia at them. It's very simple underground politics.
Is this manga ending soon?