My brother said he "grew out of" anime/animation, in favor of "realism".
What has kept you, /a/, captivated by anime for so long?
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I just started watching anime last year.
'Cause I fucking hate reality.
Much more entertaining than real life.
I watch both jdrama, too.
Because Akagi is motherfucking badass.
Stuff that could not be done in live-action media. Plus the sheer shittiness of most live-action media.
Any shows about "real life" are complete horse shit in America. Despite anime being "fake", the shows about reality in America are even more fake.
Also 3d girls, pig disgusting, etc.
The women are hotter and never say no when I want sex.
American animation is sooo bad. Nothing save pixar, and they're just finally catching up with Japan in tone (at least somewhat).
because it is...interesting and fun?
Because I don't want realism, so I like a medium where taking full advantage of it means being completely unrealistic. I like animation.
I am so fucking sick of these cookie cutter CG animations that Disney and the likes are pumping out
I have not seen a western mainstream hand animated movie in a long fucking time
not all of it, Samurai Jack rates higher then most anime on my favorite animated show list
I find animation to be much more aesthetically pleasing. You could also present an argument for the fact that I find myself to emotionally connect to fiction and be entertained by it compared to reality.
In layman's terms, colors and lines > real life.
Also, real women are 3d pig disgusting, would rather fuck 13-year-old pink haired girls, etc.
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>Stuff that could not be done in live-action media. Plus the sheer shittiness of most live-action media.
This in addition to the shittiness of American animation. Good stuff stopped being produced years ago (eg, the original run of Johnny Bravo, which I still watch at 10:00 every night).
I agree, this goes with the separation and distancing of science-fiction and fantasy from "high lit" in book stores as an example. People limit themselves horribly, why ever do that?
Last one was Lilo and Stitch.
Also, I like animation. The original Batman animated series is one of my favorite things ever.
Because it is better than anything on tv. Except maybe for Discovery Channel and National Geoghraphic.
the emperor's new groove was suprisingly fuckwin even though it came from disney. made me lol a few times and did not have any corny moments
Plus the fact I can share thoughts about anime with /a/
Oh, and you should know that Disney recently opened up their animation studio. No more 3D shit. (Or at least 2D shit along side it).
Their first project is about a black princess. Seems shit. I won't be seeing it. But at least it's a start. Their newest animated short was pure gold, both the humour and visual aspect.
Anime spoiled me. Can't think of any recent real-actor movie I saw that had good character evelopment or "Hoooooly shit!"-moments.
Also, romance shows. Can't stand them with live actors, entertaining to watch in anime.
Also, take, uh, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann's final battle for example. Shit was epic. Will any live movie recreate something like that? No, because it's too expensive to create CGIs for all that, and thus, the director cuts it out.
One of my favorite movies of all time. No joke.
Bruce Timm and DCAU is pretty great overall, but Batman:TAS was a great example of pulp fiction, film noir and all sorts of stuff brought up in a cool cartoon.
Because they actually have overlying plots to them (most of the time) unlike animation in the US and also i fucking hate reality.
An animation professor I had told me that when making an animation, the first question you ask is "why animation?" Asking that reminds one that animation is a special exception in the world of film: capable of creating things beyond our wildest dreams, but extremely costly and time consuming.
Right now, the potential of animation is just beginning to be tapped. Film has hit most of its limits, with screenplay, scripting, and casting having hit highs years ago. But with every year there is another animation (usually Japanese) that sets new standards for imagination, reach, and maturity.
escape reality, its not that reality is that bad but losing yourself in an animu is better. its also low cost and easily accessible.
Yes! Another person who understands the medium exists to test the boundaries in every way imaginable.
You are my friend.
US animation went downhill once the 3D shit came in. I always liked animation because of the creativity and just overall space there is for whatever the hell you want to happen... Which is why I'm curious to see what the hell they'll do with Akira live action.
Also, The Lion King is my favorite movie ever.
OP here. Man I have to applaud that post, that captured it pretty much perfectly for me.
It's because every time I start falling out of it I consult a list of awesome anime that I've never seen. Last week, I watched Princess Tutu for the first time and so I'm back for a quite a while.
I still like looney tunes/merry melodies.
lolis and the same reason i like anything else
Thanks, have a Ginko.
Funny thing is, my older brother has the same mentality as yours. Just replace "realism" with "maturity" and that's what I heard from him every time I try and recommend something. Always "it's too childish" without remembering that he still rewatches Animaniacs once in a while (on top of having memorized half of Countries of the World).
When it comes to 3D, I don't mind it... If it's been done by Pixar. Dreamworks can suck my dick. Shitsux.
I like anime/animation because of the aesthetics. It looks nice. Story-wise, I don't make much of a distinction between live-action and animation, but when I'm watching something, I find it more interesting watching it drawn from an artist's point of view or in an artist's "style."
The thing I don't get is, how do you grow out of anime and towards realism?
Is there some kind of barrier that means you can't watch both?
I mean, I don't have much trouble watching and episode of anime, then switching to tv and watching an episode of something live action.
They're entirely different things. I'm not going to get an anime equivalent of House, the same way I'm not going to get a live action equivalent of Noein.
>I'm not going to get an anime equivalent of House
I wish. 2x the lulz. Maybe...
Photographic film and animation aren't mutually exclusive. I think there's a lot of untapped potential still in live-action film as well.
But certainly animation hasn't been mined as profusely, there's a lot of room to grow still, which is strange, because the medium is effectively older than photographic film.
I'd really like to see animation take on the incredibly powerful and versatile role it's built to take in film. There are only a handful of really notable (powerful) animation film makers though, it's a pity.
So are photographs now more "realistic" than drawings? That's the silliest thing ever, but sadly it is a common perception. I swear to God some of the most incredibly visceral and realistic things I've seen on film or on paper has been drawn.
for some reason, i read that as Pornographic film. Many lulz ensued.
So are photographs now more "realistic" than drawings? That's the silliest thing ever, but sadly it is a common perception. I swear to God some of the most incredibly visceral and believable things I've seen on film or on paper has been drawn.
A Scanner Darkly was a movie that literally blended animation and live action. I'm sure the movie could've worked as an anime(with some tweaks) or pure western live action.
too bad it was shit sux... cept mr. reeves
Because, I want to see things that are nightmare impossible in real life. Because I want to forget about reality and boundaries of human life for 20-25 minutes every now and then.
Sure, I do play games for the very same reasongs, expect I can usually forget about reality and boundaries of my own life for few hours if I want to.
In animes, Ive seen vampires, werewolfs, A FUCKING CHOPPER SHOT DOWN BY A TORPEDO...
In games, Ive become half-god, Ive become supreme commander, Ive become ruler of the europe, Ive become normal GI joe, Ive become tank crewman. In games, I can become pretty much everything I probably wont be in real life.
>The thing I don't get is, how do you grow out of anime and towards realism?
You don't. If you want realism, you use actors and film. Animation exists to render the impossible in rich artistic fidelity: robots the size of galaxies, time-traveling high schoolers, space operas, batshit insane criminals with televisions for heads. Take a look at any serious top ten list for any form of animation and nothing on it will be possible with straight film.
And since it's been mentioned a few times, 3D/CG animation. It's powerful stuff, but it really exists to partner with film. The uncanny gap is rarely bridged, making it much more feasible to have human actors with rendered scenery.
There are some 3D animations I've seen that are quite good: Fifty Percent Gray, Destruct, and just about all of Blur Studio's works. The problem is that it is treated by big animation studios as a replacement for 2D animation, trying to fit the aesthetics of 2D into 3D. Stretch-and-squash is NOT a good choice for CG. Quote me on that.
Film renders what is. CG renders what could be. Animation renders what will never be.
Excellent movie, yes. But what would it have been like if they were freed from the constraints of actors? Melding the two lowers the potential to the lowest common denominator - film. The actors limit the characters, and the scenery is limited by what can be set up.
>So are photographs now more "realistic" than drawings?
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Shit, I can't disagree with anything in your post.
what kind of stupid question is that?
Awesome. Can I get a tripcode and be one of the cool kids now?
Lion King was a ripoff of Tezuka's Kimba the White Lion.
Man I denied this for so long when I was younger. Then when I saw the proof, I felt empty inside
Don't blame yourself, blame Disney for not giving credit when it was due.
Lion King was actually a rip off of Hamlett.
Only cosmetically. It resembles Hamlet more than anything else.
>>I'm not going to get an anime equivalent of House
This. Your brother is a fucking retard if he thinks live action shows are any more "realistic" than anything animated. Sure it doesn't have robots bigger than galaxies but even shows like House has to dramatize everything to make it a watchable show. I mean come on, no hospital would get a person with a rare disease every fucking time like in House.
Or get it wrong every fucking time like House and figure out an insta-cure at the last minute almost every single time.
Realism sucks. Nobody can light it right ever. Plus there's all the Bloom and Brown going into other shit from it for REALISM. tl;dr: "realism" is for nextgen fags.
Can't do this live
you can use movie magic to make it look somewhat live
I like anime for its difference from the realism in Western media. I'm a fan of the weird and quirky, anything something different from the mainstream. Of course given the current state in anime these days (rehashed genres over and over again), I'm getting bored of it as well. At least I have time to take some series off my enormous backlog.
I think you're missing the point. House gets a rare disease every episode because he is one of the best diagnosticians in the nation. I don't dispute the fact that the show is formulaic though.
I think it's the same thing as with fantasy/sci-fi books. When you read/watch it, you delve into new world created by author and you can forget about everything else. It's possible with movies, but animation makes it much easier for your own interpretation to grow, just like with book. Countless possibilities, limited only to peoples imagination - that's what I like.
Too bad my younger (!!) brother doesn't understand this and moans about me watching anime. Parents too.
ITT, /v/ invades and spreads it's AIDS.
hurr if people complain that you watch anime then you're doing it wrong.
they dont moan because you watch anime.
they moan because you're a faggot who cant keep anime from affecting his daily life.
i bet if you were hooked on books and wore a harry potter sweater and talked to all your friends about how the book of anything is better than the movie, people would complain about you.
All im picking up is that you're a huge weeaboo that constantly talks about anime to people who dont want to hear it.
I've only liked anime for less than a year
lol you must act like the sandbox kid.
IT'S ALL ABOUT ROAD TO EL DORADO
Honestly, people tend to favour fantasy as long as they can't handle life as it is. Too bad that like fucking 98% of all the awesome literature is somewhat realistically orientated, while next to all fantasy is utter shit.
Oh Miguel, it's so good to be a god! Shall we make this thread godjacked?
this thread went from worthless to some lower level i cannot even comprehend.
Your brother is retarded, you can enjoy both.
But Tulio, whatever happened to the plan about hijacking a boat in the dead of night?
Kuzco fucking rocked. We need more of these.
Noting an El Dorado can't fix.
This thread is fucking idiotic.
Never got into the realism or real-world stuff, that's all. And I admit, anime is pretty kiddish at times compared to other media such as novels. That doesn't stop me from enjoying it though.
Such is the power of daytime /a/ combined with Meru Otonashi's raw talent for failure
Oh god Chiel was in that movie right? What a faptastic month that was.
Go back to bed!
Change of plan, we make this people worship us by making this miserable thread awesome.
ALL RIGHT. CUBA!
BUT TULIO...what if we get caught?
Hi Anons, do you like me yet?
It's a fact that some people like to shelter themselves away from the cruel reality. When your life sucks I'd say that it isn't exactly the most pleasant experience to read stuff that comments and deals with the actual reality.
It appears mods like us, seeing how they haven't banished us yet, but still we must be prepared. Do you have something we can bribe them with?
Most of /a/ loves Kaiji, so there's something horribly wrong in your reasoning somewhere.
How about i seduce the mods with the sultry sound of my penis?
meru, you have been browsing some fucked up /a/.
yesterday you say that pedophilia is wrong and now you claim that we run away from our sad sucky life?
please. troll seriously next time.
HEY GAIS WHAT'S GOIN' ON IN THIS THREAD
because it's different from all the other crap that gets put out in the US. I don't think I've seen the US put out an animated film that dealed with any mature content at all and wasn't aimed mainly at kids under 12.
Plus as >>10141558 stated, we don't want realism all the time, anime is a good change of pace.
i think the misstatement is that he grew out of the types of anime he was used to watching. not that he grew out of watching anime. to most american temporary anime fans, anime is the intermediate stage between childisnish and adulthood.
most western cultures tend to view animation as child stuff, so its socially less acceptible to continue watching it into adulthood, even if its some pretty mature and thoughtful stuff.
Psst Miguel, do you hear it? It's the sound of the ban.
Get a better plan!!
Okay how about we sacrifice this bitch?
Sounds like a plan. Let's do it!
anime is simply another thing that is entertaining for me. i watch live action shows/movies as well, probably even moreso than anime. also, as much as i hate to admit it, moeblobs.
Well I don't talk about anime at all with other people, just with one /a/sshole I know and that rarely. My brother moans about everything related to what I do and parents are parents. They think it's strange that 22yo watches 'chinese cartoons' mostly.