This guy thinks you guys are ruining anime.
Is Miyazaki the Alan Moore of anime. Old fuck who served his purpose in the past and is no longer needed or relevant
>bitter old man upset new talent has become more popular
OP, continue watching your relevant and avantgarde late night anime, if that makes you feel better.
I hope he dies soon, everything he made is shit. And on top of that he's annoying as fuck.
He is as idealistic as his movies.
>He said people in the industry "don't spend time watching real people" and can be characterized as "humans who can't stand looking at other humans." He then called the industry "full of otaku."
Why else would someone watch anime other humans suck
I generally like other humans and I still watch anime.
How new are you to anime to spout that shit?
The people on /a/ are nothing like the japanese otaku he's hating on.
He's referring to the people who buy anime.
Anyway this guy is gonna die soon who cares. Otaku are the only ones buying anime and his movies suck.
But almost nobody in here is an otaku working in the anime industry
He also thinks Shiro Masamune is ruining anime, he's a shit talker.
>appeal to authority
>new talent has become more popular
Like who? He never competed with TV anime and the only real competition when it comes to anime movies is Makoto Shinkai, who is still seen as inferior to Ghibli.
They aren't. The people he hates are buyfags, and it is physically impossible to be a true buyfag as a westerner.
Exactly. He's saying that otaku working in the industry are ruining it, not otaku keeping the industry going by buying its products.
Man, I seriously feel pity for you.
>Do I fit in yet?
ITT: buttmad neckbeards with autism
Yet it still better than 95% of the anime out there.
He didn't say otaku are ruining anime; he just said they are shit animators
confirmed that powerlevel autist ruining the industry
>He said people in the industry "don't spend time watching real people" and can be characterized as "humans who can't stand looking at other humans." He then called the industry "full of otaku."
That's bullshit but I honestly believe it.
No, but add some more meme-arrows and maybe next time you will.
I think his point is that people working in the industry should be actual artists and not just fans of anime. Artists who observe the world and the people around them are vastly superior talent than artists who are just copying the anime shows they like themselves.
To be fair, when the industry is filled with nothing but fans who want to please other fans, instead of storytellers who want to create stories for people to enjoy, it does create some issues.
"Reality is for people who lack imagination"
He also said cyberpunk shit like GitS lacks imagination.
Heh, wasn't this the guy that had to take his animation team to the vet because apparently they had never interacted with a dog?
>appeal to le trashman
>GitS lacks imagination.
Further prof that he doesn't know jack shit of what he is talking about.
It doesn't matter because I am a baka gaijin white piggu in home.
Myazaki is just a failed Al Gore wannabe whose only good movie is Lupin III and The Castle of Cagliostro. Everything else is just a IPCC and Amnesty International propaganda video. If I wanted to see that, I would watch Captain Planet.
Isn't that a sign of him being good at what he does? Instead of telling his team "just look up some youtube videos of dogs and wing it", he decided to make them observe dogs from life to gather more experience in drawing them and make the animation more life-like and genuine.
Alright. You convinced me, OP. I'll proceed to write his name on the Death Note.
Not only because he is against his own people, but also because he was the true perpetrator of the Sayama Incident.
>Being so closed minded you can't appreciate art with a different political viewpoint
Don't get out much, do you?
>This guy thinks you guys are ruining anime.
And he is of course, correct. See >>101411761
And all of them make paintings of colored squares and say they are too superior for common people to understand.
>Everything else is just a IPCC and Amnesty International propaganda video.
Or you are just an autistic, exaggerating retard.
Seeing as this guy has seen more developement, and has more experience than most others out there, I'd take his word over any of you guys on 4chan.
Plus, you'd have to be pretty fucking blind to not understand that anime today is just fanservice, moe, "le epic deep plot" and escapism. I'm not saying it's bad, but don't pretend for a second that it's the "best" shit out there.
It's like he says.
It's kinda like incest. If your entire family is built up by generations of the same people fucking each other, and their children doing the same, you will wind up pretty bad.
I'm not really one to talk though, as I like todays anime myself, but i can atleast go as far to say that Myazaki is pretty much right about waht he says.
>IPCC and Amnesty International propaganda
Hold on, Nausicaa clearly is PETA propaganda, mate.
C'mon anon, really? Every fucking movie is "muh enviroment" or "muh world peace" or "muh strong female that it's a prostitute or was fucked by a giant wolf".
Never said otherwise. I think it's even related with what that other anon quoted
> "don't spend time watching real people" and can be characterized as "humans who can't stand looking at other humans."
So we get flat characters having a 'personality' deined by something silly like craving for X snack...
Uh, what? I'm talking about artists, not postmodern weirdos. The animation industry used to have a lot of seriously dedicated and skilled artists. And it still does here in the west at least.
He's right, just look at the amount of neckbeard pandering moeshit ad fujoshit produced today.
Haha wow why do you guys get so easily buttfrustrated? You sound like 15 year old kids. He's completely right, but why do you give a shit so much? Just shut up and keep enjoying shitty shows, I know I do. I bet this is also why you can't shut up about Yamakan.
It's odd, I don't think I've seen anything he's made. Also why should I care what he thinks of anyone?
I love his way of thinking
Oh look, it this thread again.
It's not that I can't appreciate it. The problem is that it's too idealized and it sounds and looks too much as preaching. It's annoying and boring.
He's a smoker subhuman scum without soul.
god, those fucking desks. They should be tilted up,
Apart Gendy Tartakovsky and Craig MacCracken, there isn't anyone else.
He's complaining that anime creators are only doing it for self-gratification.
I don't think the thought of environmental messages has ever even crossed my mind when watching a Miyazaki movie. You sound pretty damn paranoid and everything that as much as resembles a message is somehow blatant propaganda in your eye.
Humans vs nature is a VERY common storytelling archetype that has been around for way longer than environmentalists even exist.
You could try watching them out of obligation, that's what I'm doing. They're really good, but I don't like them the same way I like anime that he probably thinks are shit.
Kate, please go.
hes upset about the porn
How many Human vs Nature stories has he written?
So according to him the people who support anime kill anime. Okay.
How many movies he has made?
I think that he is truly a keystone in reestablishing a new paradigm for animators. Central to his thesis is the philosophy of shitagi chiramise, which infuses all of his work with a special kind of life and elan. This spirit is something that works in layers, emulsifying various elements on a socio-cultural level and causing the so-called closed circuit enthusiasts to subconsciously reject their chosen path.
What it essentially amounts to is growing pains, and results in new synergies between classical and neo-Heisei elements of sakuga and douga. All in all, it's both subtle and brilliant.
Yea, he is talking about worship and putting it on the pedestal.
The only ones that come to mind are Mononoke and Nausicaa.
Your point being?
>Oh, this person doesn't like what I like
>Oh, he isn't american like me, he actually considers the enviorment
>He must be a huge faggot
>Why is he trying to wake us up, muh escapism
>Why isn't he clapping?
It get's better in the manga.
Also Nausicaa pretty much kills everyone on earth.
Im wouldn't fit into his criterion of otaku-- I live in the west and don't buy anything otaku related, I'm not fueling the creation of moeblob anime by downloading it off AB and Nyaa.
>I hope he dies soon
Only Yesterday has a little bit of it in it aswell
(not him but) Tales from Earthsea aswell.
My point is that he didn't write many.
>We need to pander to people who don't buy anime
Studios tried this and it failed almost every time. There is great danger in listening to the voices who don't buy anime. Artists hundreds of years ago did work on commission (like they do today). The reason you get pandering and "unrealistic" designs is because that's what the people who are willing to pay want. And the people want these things enough to go into the business and create them.
There is already a medium for bitter old men who want realistic non-otaku works, and they can sell them too. It's called photography and film.
Now you are trying a bit hard here. None of those movies has any kind of environmental message in the focus. If you can see an environmental message there, it's your own interpretation.
>Alan Moore of anime
He thinks masturbating makes him a wizard?
His quote was about
1. Animation, not story, chacraters, etc
2. People working in the industry
Also, >you guys
Foreign fans have practically no influence.
>Miyazaki's stuff is shit and I hope he dies soon. I only like adult anime for adults such as myself.
In japan, liking anime makes you an otaku. You cannot make anime that isn't pandering because you'd be appealing to technically nobody.
That's Aleister Crowley, mate.
>muh family values
>every Miyashitki movie ever
>all children who watch the pokemon anime are otaku
stop talking retard
Makes me feel bad bout this guy I know
>The nature (in form of the sea) attacks humanity, flooding the earth (Noah, anyone?)
>It's not in focus at all, but she does go back to "tradition" and "living with nature"
>One scene comes to mind, where she and that guy with the good "sucking on teeth" and "clickign with tongue" sounds guy is on a mountain
>He says "Human made all this. Without us, no rivers would be here"
Tales from Earthsea (Not Hayao)
>The dragons who chose nature and freedom shits on Kumo, who simply didn't want to die
>he defies nature.
>Nature in form of Therru kills him
I don't know about the two last, but Ponyo certainly has the "Nature vs Human" as a theme.
He was talking about animators.
You fail to see that Miyazaki is not writing this statement out of spite because he's jealous of other people.
He already has an established place in this industry and his own name is pretty much synonymous to the highest quality of japanese animated movies. His movies are internationally compared to Disney and Dreamworks masterpieces, not to some shitty 2AM moeblob show that is made to sell figmas and body pillows.
Animators tell stories.
Yes, and Alan Moore stole his gimmick.
And so did Grant Morrison.
But that's all good stuff unless you are an edgy asshat.
>and his own name is pretty much synonymous to the highest quality of japanese animated movies
To people who don't know shit about anime.
And I can hardly like every film he ever made, so his opinion is irrelevant in my opinion.
The way I took it was that the Otakus in the anime industry itself are the ones ruining anime.
Those super fans that jumped into creating anime without any real world experience and have only enjoy watching anime itself and base their creations on that instead of real world shit.
I don't see the point in blaming the viewers for the problems in the industry.
Otaku is just a term for an obsessed fan of something, there are military otaku, model train otaku, gardening otaku and so on.
Because there is a lot of shit.
I mean I'm not the biggest Miyazaki fan, I think he's okay, but he's half right about what he said.
Anime and manga artists only watch anime and read manga, so they just recycle old ideas.
But although I think there's a part of the audience that's maybe a little too traditionalist, most of us like change and new ideas and know that shit gets old after a while.
And then you could say that some genres are more into cliches than others, like romcoms.
How the fuck is Nisekoi seriously this popular?
It's just generic bullshit.
Yeah it's kind of hard to create realistic characters and relationships when you have only lived in a basement watching anime all your life and think real people act like they do in anime.
>I don't think the thought of environmental messages has ever even crossed my mind when watching a Miyazaki movie.
Not even Princess Mononoke?
You make it seem like talking about those things are bad... remember, he primarily makes children movies. Teaching them values such as having a good family, being at peace with others, protecting nature, etc. are a good thing.
Only an edgy 14 year old would think that is somehow a bad thing.
What do you think would happen if he tried to criticize KyoAni?
He's attacking the viewers because they have no voice to respond.
Miyazaki doesn't really have any room to talk. He recycles themes and characters as badly as the rest of the anime industry does.
You're taking "fan" differently than what the japanese are, and don't understand the market structure. It has nothing to do with "us" and has alot to do with end party domestic sales, and how ever minor anime studio funds itself on those sales numbers alone.
Person in the industry with ideas who can fundamentally change the pace of things and bring us into a new entertainment era are stinted because the stagnated economy means loans can't go out for projects that won't make guaranteed sales.
The fans are the rampant NEET useless losers in japan that do nothing but inflate the end user sales for fanervice grabage like K-on and Monogatari. No studio can create anything but copying that model because the fans dictate funding.
1)You guys are losers because you're obsessed with loli fanservice instead of the anime. You'd do better than to watch 8 year old girls at the playground for free then buys 3 volumes of every SHAFT BD set.
2)Miyazki sucks. Nature and Magic little kid shit.
I think I'm going to watch a Miyazaki film on some 2c-e today.
>Fry: But that's not why people watch TV. Clever things make people feel stupid, and unexpected things make them feel scared.
>[Lrrr crackles onto the screen.]
>Lrrr: [on TV] : Attention, McNeal. Your unexpected marriage plan scares us. You stole our hearts as a single female lawyer, and so shall you remain -- or else!
>Fry: You see? TV audiences don't want anything original. They wanna see the same thing they've seen a thousand times before.
And there is your answer.
Did anyone of you actually read the original interview? Miyazaki wasn't criticizing the viewership, he was criticizing otaku animators. All he said was that they didn't understand human movements enough to correctly draw them, its not like he was ranting about how much he hates your favorite harem and ecchi shows.
Miyazaki is shit anyone that likes him should fuck off to /v/
People on /a/ don't buy anime, they have nothing to do with this.
>People on /a/ don't buy anime
you have buyfags and funded 33% of LWA
He's right anime will never be taken seriously because it only attracts fat unwashed neckbeards
It's not just anime and manga, it's the entire Asian state of mind in art. You spend your whole career studying to paint the same damn scenery in the correct way without ever actually seeing it with your own eyes.
He is absolutely right.
More like says truths nobody wants to here about a stagnated industry.
He talks a lot of big shit for someone who really has no clue.
He's got a name already made for himself, he's got a large studio with tons of funding (30 million for the wind rises), he's got tie-ins with disney and other big names. And yet he has the gall to ask "gee why isn't anyone else producing shit like me?"
Maybe if the other studios had his money, maybe if they had his fame, maybe if they had his connections, then maybe they could actually break out with success on a level remotely similar to his. But it's not like that at all. They work in a niche industry relying on a dedicated fanbase to keep themselves alive.
Otaku are the people making anime because they're the only ones willing to actually get into that fucking horrible industry. The animators get paid shit for the work they do, the shows aren't making blockbuster dollars and the funding groups are all jews who keep most of the money made for themselves. The only people willing to throw themselves into that kind of shithole is people who actually love it and want to be there because they actually fucking like making anime.
Even if they tried to branch out, it isn't even guaranteed to work. Look at the most popular and well known anime, it's stuff like anpanman, shin-chan, kids and family shows that are safe choices. The general populace is just not going to go crazy for an adult oriented anime series, no matter how well made it is.
And if he's suggesting people just make cute stuff aimed at all ages for broad appeal then he can go fuck himself. I'd rather the industry continue to be poor as shit then see everything turned into watered down crap made to appeal to a general audience.
Mostly all I see is the ramblings of an out of touch old man sitting on a pedestal and looking down on everyone else far below him.
What he says in that interview is common sense to any artist, it's a basic and important practice for an animator to draw observationally.
But you guys don't understand that and think you're being insulted and get mad.
>Industry is motivated by profit
>Otaku willing to spend $$$ on anime
>Normalfags unwilling to spend $$$ on anime
>Otaku willing to work the shit hours and shit pay for anime
>Normalfags unwilling to work the shit hours and shit pay for anime
And then Normalfag Miyazaki cries and whines that the industry doesn't fit his tastes when he hasn't made an exceptional movie in over a fucking decade.
>Maybe if the other studios had his money, maybe if they had his fame, maybe if they had his connections, then maybe they could actually break out with success on a level remotely similar to his. But it's not like that at all. They work in a niche industry relying on a dedicated fanbase to keep themselves alive.
You got it backwards, he have all these resources because he makes decent movies instead of comedy slice of life harem school moe waifu simulator #293749823
>He talks a lot of big shit for someone who really has no clue.
Yeah, you can totally become as successful in a medium as he is without knowing shit about it.
This. Can you idiots please stop talking about an interview you didn't understand at all?
People are so quick to jump to conclusions.
They read 2 lines taken out of context and assume it's an attack on them.
>he makes decent movies
More like generic movies with generic safe themes, nothing controversial or intelligent.
Oh man, this was awesome. When did we grew out of fun?
That's your opinion and I respect it, it doesn't matter how fucking wrong it is.
What he's saying is reasonable - it seems clear that to animate lifelike people you should spend some tim observing life. It's not that he isn't correct, it's the attitude with which he says these things - totally ignoring the reality that animators are otaku because the industry is hellish and no one else will stick it out for long hours and little pay. Instead of directing his efforts toward improving the industry and fostering new creativity and talent, he bitches about it from his ivory tower.
Oh man, Happy Negro.
>This guy thinks you guys are ruining anime.
I think anime is a wonderful medium that has incredible diversity. I can watch any genre as long as it's done well.
I think the current business model and the fact that haremshit romcoms with bad writing and self insert MCs are selling well is bad, but on the whole I'm ok with things.
I don't think he's talking about me.
When the userbase decided that memes like that are reddit or tumblr tier.
I think you're missing the point anon. Princess Mononoke was supposed to be a reflection on how our species interacts with the natural environment, you the viewer were supposed to figure out what aspects were negative and positive based on your own morality.
why would i spend time watching "real" people?
Because it helps you grow as an artist.
>You got it backwards, he have all these resources because he makes decent movies instead of comedy slice of life harem school moe waifu simulator #293749823
Do not try to support his argument if you can't even comprehend it. It's fucking embarassing anon.
as in character designs? that comes from imagination and creativity.
>Old fuck who served his purpose in the past and is no longer needed or relevant
Pretty much. Same deal with Tomino and Anno.
>Old fuck who served his purpose in the past and is no longer needed or relevant
I love the phrase "He has outlived his purpose"
>a legit topic gets ruined by shit posting.
sure we talked about it earlier in the week but seriously this topic was straight up bait
Irrelevant old hack why can't understand not everyone wants realism. The guy's a dinosaur, hates technology and doesn't even understand the market for the very medium he's selling.
The majority of the people who watch his work are normal fags that probably won't watch other anime. People who are actually fans of anime don't watch it for realism, hopefully he accepts that before he kicks the bucket.
He's not bad. The problem that happens when he shoots his mouth about the industry is that he's utterly disconnected from the reality. He hasn't been in the trenches for far too long.
He shouldn't be hated; his creative talent is amazing.
If anything, he should be pitied. The only thing I think you can hate about him is what appears to be a willful ignorance.
You can't just imagine up a cute girl from nothing, what you can imagine up is a cute girl based on what you know personally about cute girls.
When an artist knows nothing about cute girls but what they know from anime you end up with shit like Nisekoi.
>People who are actually fans of anime don't watch it for realism
Like people who watch horse shows?
>People who are actually fans of anime don't watch it for realism
that is wrong faggot
How does this end up being an anti-moé debate, Gihbli films are moé as fuck.
Alan Moore is right though. Whenever he says that comic fans are immature they proceed to act like giant crybabies.
/a/ hates anime though
True this is happening now, but honestly how long can the current business model hold out given the small target audience?
I'd love to see a crash followed by a change in paradigm where prices and marketing changes.
It would give me more time to work on my backlog as well as changing things up.
>and doesn't even understand the market for the very medium he's selling.
In fairness, I think this is true for most anime producers and directors. A lot of them have a stereotypical otaku in mind when they make a series, aim it towards that stereotype, then get surprised when it doesn't even break 1k sales and everyone talks shit about it.
>what you can imagine up is a cute girl based on what you know personally about cute girls.
no it's based on what you want a cute girl to be like.
He can't expect much more, being animator is a shit job.
Beside, things were never better than now, there aren't that many outstanding pieces of characterization in the old days.
Well he's goddamn right.
Go back to /v/ and take that stupid joke with you.
There's an awful lot of luck involved when it comes to anything art related.
fucking christ man. ghibli films have substance where as typical "moe" doesn't let's not fucking talk about this.
He is absolutely right about the "watching real people part"
Even the most deformed moe blob comes from the human simplification and stylization of the human figure, to be able to develop your own art style with perfection you need first to understand how the body work, and if possible, to draw realistic looking people. The same work for the plot, they are all based in real life events at some level, the more experience you've got, the better is your potential to write something unique instead of a copy of a copy of a copy.
He's totally right.
We would go back to the pre-ovas from the 80s era, which means mecha, anime for girls, magical girls, and some sport anime.
"I wish I spent less time observing real life and experiencing different things myself"
-No artist ever
meanwhile on the NHK
we aren't ruining the industry, money is. like every fucking other industry.
>Humans are destroying the environment, upsetting the natural balance, causing suffering for the animals of the forest and those who enjoy the beauty of nature. Look at all this gorgeous greenery being defiled by human encroachment, we must learn to live in harmony with nature before it takes its revenge upon us
>That's not an environmentalist message though
You failed literary class, right?
He means the animators and people in the industry, not the otaku.
It was just badly translated.
I use anime to escape reality. I don't want to see mine or anyone else's miserable life story animated.
Is that supposed to be Ronja the Robbers daughter?
No, in animation, seeing how the characters act and react is a huge indicator of good artistic creativity.
Facial expression, body posture, and how a character's body moves regarding the scene is hugely important in animation. Animation is being able to breathe life into a character's design.
It's hugely important to display what a cute character acts like in regards to how people act, not in how previous anime productions display those characters. If you don't, and you base all your ideas of how characters act through previous productions, you end up with a self-replicating form of artistic incest, repeatedly using the same character archetypes and creating an industry where that lack of imagination creates smash hits.
If we had another OVA era I'd be thrilled. Seeing how Yozakura Quartet has been getting released makes me happy.
I'd love the 80's OVA era and a change in target audience for a while.
Moé isn't a genre of anime
>Improper use of periods
Typical moé hater.
And no, he hasn't seen half of this shit. He owns (expensive as fuck) Fate/Zero and so much of Ippo for example, and hasn't even started either.
It's too easy to do that, it should from him to make being animator a job people want to do.
That's not even remotely related to what he wrote.
Why would anyone even want to become an animator unless they like anime for being anime? They're not doing it for the money.
Vote with your wallet etc etc
Too bad we don't have any say in that industry though.
3DCG monstrosity. RIP anime.
>I use anime to escape reality.
I don't like this attitude. I think getting immersed in a story and empathizing with characters is great, but just self inserting and escapism is really limiting what the medium is capable of.
He here, I can confirm this right
To tell a story
OVA era won't come back, if the market crash there wouldn't be enough money.
We would be getting what we used to have before, and those were the anime I mentioned.
>caring about grammar on 4chan
I skimmed it.
but alan moore is both relevant and needed
Airing this fall.
The industry isn't ruined?
You're probably right.
I want to dream, though.
If I wanted to listen to old pretentious hacks and their dinosaur opinions I would
yeah, i guess your right. in forming imagination and creativity you need something to base it off of.
Go watch Howl's Moving Castle, the themes are shallower than any SoL's and 90% of it is cute grannies and cute boys being cute and silly.
I don't care.
Perhaps he hates the panty shots?
I feel the non-mainstream anime market needs expensive BDs to live on, assuming they're not getting enough from manga/LN/other merchandise sales. Anime could never survive on some kind of net subscription setup, and the latenight market really is just the OVA market, except you get full previews months ahead of time.
Moore made TLoEG: Century, AKA, "cantankerous old fart who loathes everything new and over idolizes his youth: the comic". He tanked the story just to go batshit about how much he hated Harry Potter, and this was after the poor reception of Black Dossier, which he also tanked to go go batshit about how much he hated James Bond.
After that meandering abomination, I'm pretty sure he lost it.
HMC is based off of a novel. not even a ghibli original.
Do plot heavy series sell at all these days? Those who pander or use some kind of gimmick don't count.
Is it written like this in spic countries to not confuse it with the bartender character of The Simpons show?
Thank you for trying to diminish the range of a medium I enjoy.
I wish Miyazaki himself would mention those examples of great anime we used to get back in the days, because honestly I grew up with 70s anime and as much as I love it Yatterman isn't a masterpiece of realism and characters.
Memorable and influential, but they not special in themselves.
>Miyazaki hasn't started a liberal democrat party yet
What's taking him so long? I'm sure if he entered politics he'd win all the NEET votes.
>tfw manga isn't dead and probably never will be
Some do, some don't. Psycho-Pass did quite well, like 8-9k or so if I recall.
I have never spent a single penny on anime. Whether I watch it or not doesn't contribute to the industry. I don't exist to them.
Define plot heavy and gimmick?
HMC is based on a novel in the same sense that Fate/Stay Night is based on Arthurian Legend.
i want to see more shit like psycho pass. hopefully S2 will be good
>I feel the non-mainstream anime market needs expensive BDs to live on
Yes, and they wouldn't survive in case of a crash.
Hence why we would get things that sell outside the otaku market: magical girls, mecha, sports, for girls.
But he's right.
It's like Pokémon.
Completely forgot about it. Brilliant show but suffered from a huge amount of QUALITY. I should rewatch BDs.
I'm pretty sure you can call every anime produced in the last decade or two gimmicky or pandering in some way.
no it isn't
Not sure how I feel about that, I did pop my first boner at loli 3D Ronja though.
No. He hates the people who only know to do panty shots.
But I'm pretty sure they don't pronounce the tone were the accute is.
Good point, I guess.
I'm just praying that Kogami isn't made out to be the bad guy. His ability to draw a line between completely anarchy and total compliance made him my favorite. He's the only one who acts like a human.
>things that sell outside the otaku market:
How much pocket money do you think 10 year old girls get?
Anyone who thinks this is about moe or any sort of particular genre is literally retarded.
The man is complaining about all late night anime being made by Otaku. Every single series can have derivative idealized character designs regardless if its "moe" SoL or whatever shounen-shit you love. Because both kinds of series are made by the same exact people, Otaku.
The problem is the Otaku making this shit make it because its what they like. If he wants new people and an outside perspective then maybe instead of complaining he should work towards making the industry more lucrative and not so misunderstood or stigmatized by mainstream society (good fucking luck with that).
How new are you?
>The man is complaining about
He's complaining about the lack of understanding of human movements.
Precure is a money printing machine, and Italy is going to buy the magical girls anime you make for even more profit.
Mahou shoujo is one of the 2 pillars of the industry.
If most comedy/harem/Slice of Life are based on Manga, VNs or LNs, why is he attacking the people who animate? Is animating anime because you love anime so wrong?
>Mahou shoujo is one of the 2 pillars of the industry
Which one is the other? MEcha?
If he wants to save TV anime he should make some fucking TV anime that will sell 100,000 copies and change the face of the industry.
Because attacking anime is much easier than attacking manga.
I guess there is action shounen as well, so make that 3 pillars.
kyoani is shit and killed anime
Miyazaki needs to check his privilege. He works at a fucking wonderland with the top well-paid staff, has no hard deadlines, and he is the boss. He hasn't had to deal with TV anime in 35 years, and that was a different world with different expectations.
and now guess, why he can do that
KyoAni is the only studio keeping anime alive, and even they have succumbed to CG dancing idols.
FAK U ANIME IS THE ONLY THING I HAVE IN MY LIFE AND WHOEVER SAYS BAD THINGS ABOUT IT IS OLD AND OVERRATED AND SHITTY AND JEALOUS WAAAAAHHHH
Because he got lucky working on those shows back then, culminating in Nausicaa and then eventually to Ghibli.
Seriously. He's not paid by publishing companies to adapt trashy LNs or endless shounen battle manga like 99% of the studios out there.
>Tfw Anno watches Giant purple robots eat aliens
If you read the interview instead, he is not actually criticizing what they animate but how they animate it. He's claiming that most young animators are antisocial otakus who have learnt to draw merely using anime as reference and they don't know a shit about real people, so their characters' facial gestures and anatomy are shit and completely unbelievable.
Miyazaky is saying that people should try to make his human characters look like humans, and that's only possible when you watch other human beings from time to time.
Hyouka was a masterpiece.
Maybe not in the west, but a man that holds ideals like this was and still is against the current in Japan
wrong. Anime studios that attempted to copy kyoani killed anime
He's making the assumption that they don't understand other humans because they are Otaku who only understand anime. Thus they only know how to make works and characters that are derivative from the anime they watched, not from other human beings they interacted with.
My point was that if he didn't want Otaku like this to be making anime, then he should do something about it. Make the industry lucrative to work in for people who aren't huge Otaku. No one is going to want to work in that shit unless they actually really fucking like anime. Or better yet make it so that society is actually interested in adult oriented anime, maybe then you'd get new people interested. But that would take work, and it's much easier to complain.
Making them look realistic would destroy the whole point.
>their characters' facial gestures and anatomy are shit and completely unbelievable.
Yeah, when I think of cartoons I immediately think of natural gestures and realistic anatomy.
>kyoani will never make another hyouka tier anime
This guy isn't even making anime. He's making cartoons.
Yurifags are the cancer killing the industry.
Just wait for all the otaku to grow up and/or die. Some new-age audience is bound to fit in.
But I still want my moe.
Otaku saved anime once, they can do it again.
If I wanted to sleep I would take a nap.
a shame, not even KyoAni themselves seemed to understand that. Everything following was just a series of "let's just make all our old mistakes again and add a few new for a change" shows. Well, as long as people buy it...
>Only studio to treat its employees like humans and show you can have high sales and keep a good business running
anime = cartoons
Maybe if they get enough money through their own IPs they will be able to afford it.
It's not about looking it's about feeling, moving.
you are, what's wrong with anime
They just need to make Haruhi S3.
>. Some new-age audience is bound to fit in.
They are more social than male otaku, so will be able to have kids and money to spend.
I hope you like cute boys, anon.
Imagine if Ghibli sponsored something akin to Anime Mirai, and recruited young animators to come work on short films?
What if he set an example by paying those young animators a living wage instead of the grains-of-rice-per-drawing that those poor otaku get to animate panties?
Then Miyazaki would actually be a force for change in the industry, instead of a grumpy old man whose only successor is his talentless son.
as long as japan as a whole doesn't change, otaku will never die out.
is that the Kyoani formula?
>make a selection of pandering shows to build up their budget to make a quality piece of animation.
fucking sasuga Kyoani
>Damn, I sure hope that cutesy stuff dies out soon!
Good animation ain't cheap.
They made Kyouka, Nichijou and the Haruihi movie which are all amazing. I also enjoy most of their other works.
If they never make anything God tier again, it'll suck but I like their average works too.
If they make another super anime, it'll be a good day.
When I watched Hyouka and thought "People on /a/ actually find this boring" that was the momeny I stopped giving a shit about what most people on /a/ think.
The man's first directing debut was a fucking Lupin III film. Lupin III is a super goddamn popular series amongst the general population. The man was very lucky to get that kind of debut.
I'm not saying he isn't talented at all, but it is way easier to get fame starting directing that kind of stuff over being forced to direct some random popular an completely shit LN novel with a shoe string budget.
i like this idea.
>otaku will never die out.
Except that they aren't reproducing.
I'm ok with that. I like most of their in between stuff.
Miyazaki defends that animation is a pure and stylistic way of representing the reality, the same way that fantasy is a tool for pinpoint certain aspects of the real world.
Their formula is to make money through pandering (Free!, Chu2) to pay for what they like to animate (Tamako getting another season).
But the way Japanese people act is completely forced and unnatural even in real life, and "realistic" interpretations of how Japanese people are supposed to act are even more painful. Have you seen any of the lower-end live-action shit in the past 10 years? It's simply uncomfortable to watch.
I much prefer the acting in anime, which is closer to theater or comedy routines than those "natural and realistic" works.
they don't need to reproduce, japanese society creates them
Miyazaki is speaking from a place of privilege. He has no idea about budgets, deadlines or anything else modern animators suffer through. I'm sure the major studios would just love it if all their animators up and vanished for a few days to gawk at people on the streets. The biggest reason the animation is poor is budget, plain and simple. Hell, half this animation he is complaining about is outsourced to Korera. Must be nice to be so high and mighty after Disney's been sucking your cock for the past decade.
Good animation does not necessarily mean more frames, it might just mean a pose is drawn better.
Think about all the anime characters who walk perfectly straight with no character.
He has been saying that for decades. I don´t see why the surprise.
He should instead try doing short movies.
>If they never make anything God tier again, it'll suck
>If they make another super anime, it'll be a good day.
Being an anime-loving nerd isn't genetic, its a choice
Women are becoming an increasingly large force in the industry, both as consumers and creators. If Miyazaki had time or inclination to look down upon the peasants scratching at the dirt around his feet, he might notice that.
>Except that they aren't reproducing
Did you even think before you posted this? Are you implying only otakus can have otaku kids?
No, it wasn't at all.
Tamako Market is only getting a movie. i think they will do it justice if it is a romance.
>yfw feminism comes to Japan
Except they will change because half of the country is old farts.
Rev up those Boku no Pico sequels.
Oh man, now I want to see someone claim in media that being an otaku is not a choice much like being gay just for the shitstorms it would create.
>implying they didn't like animating Free!
Why don't you talk to Utsumi about that.
I sure hope that neighbor childhood friend wins.
It's means I'll be bummed out, but live if they don't make another truly great show, and that if they do I'll be very happy.
My point is that if the whole country is physically not having kids, there will be no one to become an otaku when the current generation dies.
He wasn't fucking attacking YOU, he was attacking artists who don't have a diverse background. I'm not sure I agree with him, but stop misinterpreting him.
And Japanese society is dying. Because they aren't reproducing.
okay let's stay serious here folks
They always were.
Please to god shut up.
and most young people seem to think exactly like those old farts. They will die out, before they change
how the fuck wouldn't he nigga.
Read the news sometimes. No one there is reproducing.
>the kyoani apologist tryhards are here
Time to prepare some popcorn
That also takes more time and money.
Haha, no. They're just becoming more popular because they're women consumers. Like many other industries have already realized, they're an easy target and ideal consumer because most of them have been brainwashed into the idea of wasting their money on lots of shit.
The most social they get is whoring themselves out to a sugar daddy to get him to buy more shit for them.
They have tried to expand the Studio Ghibli several times and recruiting flesh blood for the company. However, Miyazaki himself is both the best thing and the worst thing they have.
He's just too much personality, and everybody at Ghibli has ended doing everything as he does or has left. That company is the worst place for recruiting new talents.
He is so right.
>b-b-but muh high school comedy pandering to underages and otakus
>They always were.
Yes, because there were so many female directors 20 years ago.
>Randomly shitposting about Kyoani in an attempt to start pointless studio wars
Back to /v/ with you, people like that kind of shitposting there.
For the last time, he was misquoted.
Miyazaki was talking about character animation and how movements don't look realistic. Blame ANN for the bad translation, don't get your panties in a bunch.
Eh, women were always relevant, the 70s were shaped in style and themes by them, and the fujoshi is a relevant force since the middle 80s.
That's an ignorant post, no offence.
Women were in anime&manga industry soon after it was born, there is nothing "feminism" in it, and it's not something that happens only in Japan.
Beside, Japanese feminists have more important issues.
It wasn't my intention to imply that.
At least you could make the argument that his themes leave room for thought an discussion about the state of the world around us/how we treat and judge others as people. Most anime nowadays is the same rehash of awkward romances, boring cliche scenarios and bland cut out character types.
>Facial expression, body posture, and how a character's body moves regarding the scene is hugely important in animation.
Good luck getting any of that to look decent when your animation budget is less than a hobo can get begging in the streets.
Wrong. Wrong and wrong. The west is extremely polarized in definitions. One is acceptable and the other is EVIL. Pic related.
>and most young people seem to think exactly like those old farts
. Hopefully those godawful censorship laws get reformed.
It's going to spread and is already spreading to the west. People are realizing that having a child is just too expensive and a massive waste of your own time.
Nah, fujoshi do straight up prostitution, they don't have the social skills necessary to seduce and bullshit men and milk their wallets.
Much much more social than the otaku.
People are delusional if they think normal people who aren't "otaku" will ever care about the majority of anime enough to produce or consume it.
Pixar makes billions with the most accessible movies ever made and with a tinge of "dramatic maturity", and people still don't give a shit about animation at all. Superhero movies are huge blockbusters that everybody watches, and people still don't give a shit about comic books at all.
It's not more expensive to draw something a different way and neither will it take longer (unless you're overcomplicating things).
there are other talents at Ghibli, but they are either unproductive as shit(Takahata needed 14 years for one fucking movie), or tend to die early(Yoshifumi Kondo, that should've repaced Miyazaki).
The cartoon industry is degenerate, kids should be reading non-fiction books, and be studying math, not looking at weird japanese devil cartoons. Yes, two can play at that game, though he does have a bit of a point.
>implying he isn't criticizing Kyoani, Shaft and the horde of late night anime made for and by otaku.
Fujoshi also act great tools for promotion and viral marketing, as they're generally the ones who spread word of mouth through their fan art, fanfics, doujinshi and whanot.
Otakus don't really do that as much. They consume but they don't exactly create or promote.
Merchandise for kids is always bought with money from parents. The industry would have more income if there were some more dumb series for young children, like it was in the earlier decades
>It's not more expensive to draw something a different way
The entire reasons cartoon characters look like cartoon character is because they're easier to draw that way.
It's always funny to see how one of the best creators in a media, and probably the most widely known one, says that the industry is basically composed of untalented social retards.
It almost as amusing as when Anno says that the problem with the anime industry is that most people working on it are autistic.
"Anime is ruined because whats popular isn't what I like to make"
So basically, Miazaki thinks that anime needs more funding?
Why would he complain about otaku being paid next to nothing to animate what they love, or about low-budget seasonal anime not looking as good as his own films?
Clearly this man wants more importance and money to be placed on this medium
Fuck didnt upload other part
If he wants to save anime why doesn't hire Milky Holmes director and make a third season of it?
Or they chase them out...looking at Hosoda Mamoru here.
There's a reason Comiket was always majority female dominated, in both producers and consumers
They pump out shit like crazy and go crazy over merchandise
Don't bring Miyazaki into this anymore, please. It's been mentioned multiple times that he was misquoted blatantly by the retards at ANN. He was talking about animating realistic movement, not themes, content, and what not.
If you want to argue about Otaku interest in anime production, go ahead, but don't bring him into the fold when clearly he wasn't commenting on that.
Honestly, this has been said over and over. I dunno why these threads keep getting posted. It's just gonna perpetuate the same misconception, I think these OPs just want to start shitstorms.
>not caring about grammar
Go back to /b/
Your right to like anime has also been revoked.
Why doesn't he buy KyoAni and force them to make 10 other seasons of Haruhi?
I'm not talking about redesigning the characters every scene you retard, I'm saying the only difference in drawing a guy upright and slouching is a creative decision.
If you want to go down that route then most anime characters are overdesigned shit that don't do the animators any favors anyway.
That doesn't make much sense. Specially when any of his movies blown up every other anime in sales terms.
Anime is ruined because retarded otaku rehash the same themes from the anime they like in progressively shittier ways instead of drawing from experiences they WOULD have through living life, but instead hide in the basement shunning said life
one could argue, if he ever really was "in"
When is he going to do a tv serie?
You're not on /v/ anymore.
>what is taste
No fuck YOU
KyoAni doesn't really decide whether they make more Haruhi. That'd be Kadokawa.
I don´t see what is the problem with that. His works will probably be remembered 100 years from now. Almost everything else mostly not.
He already did Digimon.
Why do you guys keep misquoting him?
I know /a/ bitches about his current take on moe and otaku in "his" industry.
Have you read the shit he spouted in the 90s? You know about Akira and Gits and the like? That's what deserves a good slap in a face.
>why doesn't everyone just make children's cartoons oh the horror they unleash
>oh the rotting of minds oh woe is this industry
>woe woe DARKNESS AND EDGY
Fuck him. Didn't stop Ghibli from chasing them dollars when Innocence rolled around.
And Miyazaki is rehashing the same themes from the anime he likes (the ones he made) and apparently stopped maturing around the age of 5.
Well he was working as a director on a major motion picture; I don't know how much more "in" you can get.
People love controversy..
I like how people forget Disney mass shutdown most of it's animation studios aside from big ones like Pixar in favour of "the in" live action garble years ago. The best western series I've seen for a while were Avatar and Wakfu, and they both had pretty tried and true plots, nothing special writing wise with the exception of Nox actually making me feel sympathy.
A generation has missed out on animation because of a cultural pressure for kids to "grow up." Twain was right.
>in progressively shittier ways
Prove that anime in earlier decades had less rehashed cliches form each other.
It makes for better arguments.
Luckily the world seems to love that idealistic little child.
And Avatar aired almost a fucking decade ago. What a disaster of an industry.
But it's not that much different in Japan either. They also only care about Pixar and Ghibli, and anime is mostly for children or manchildren.
At least anime manages to stay alive as a niche industry.
>reposting some retarded misquoted shit some moron said and talking about "the industry", and buzzwords like "moeshit" "fujoshit" "feminists!" thrown everywhere
It's like I'm really on a different board
From Up On Poppy Hill is a rare Gibli real world story, rich with authentic personal and historical observation, animated extremely skillfully with great charisma and featuring a superb sound track. Goro's next work also looks promising.
It's pretty stupid to make statements about process that take decades, some times centuries, of development.
normalfags don't really have that many grounded interests or obsessions when it comes to visual entertainment. They don't really care for it, it's just something else to get them through the day, or a side activity to do with friends, family; etc.
Hence why the comic, animation, game, anime, tv, movie, etc industries are in a major rut now. That and the global economy.
why would they think this is a good idea?
>Miyazaki words strongly affect anime-fans
>/v/ floods in
>Suddenly it's bad to have a 2D waifu and you need to get out and get a real girlfriend
>Only mainstream/shitty anime like Shingeki no Kyojin, Aku No Hana and One piece are acceptable.
Seriously, his words should be taken lightly, there's not much we can do to change the anime industry and if we do it'll end up like what I quoted above.
The biggest anime have always been family-oriented anyway. Doreamon, Sazae-san, Crayon shin-chan, maybe a precure thrown in etc.
>From Up On Poppy Hill is a rare Gibli real world story
Fake Incest: The Melodrama
>Goro's next work also looks promising.
He is right. Otaku who only buy what panders to them are ruining anime.
Goro next work sounds awful. I still had hopes in seeing his next movie, since he truly improved a lot from Terramar to From Up On Puppy Hill.
Why should I care what Japanese Colonel Sanders has to say about the anime industry?
Firework galas celebrating the 65th anniversary of the founding of the Workers' Party of Korea were held here Friday evening.
>At least anime manages to stay alive as a niche industry.
This. Say what you want about the state of anime, but at least we're still getting some variety across genres, and a good mix of kid stuff and late night anime. Western animation is pretty much dead in the water besides goofy high energy animation like Adventure Time and the Simpsons/South Park/Family Guy style of cartoons.
The bank of the River Taedong facing the Party Founding Memorial Tower and the plaza of the Mangyongdae Schoolchildren's Palace, the venues of the firework galas, and other areas of Mangyongdae District and different parts of the capital city were crowded with Pyongyangites who came to watch the nocturnal sky in October to be beautifully decorated with fireworks.
I wouldn't even say misquoted, it was a mistranslation posted in an inflammatory article to clickbait. He barely talks about Otaku in the actual interview.
I suspect OP is an ANN shill considering the mass-reposting.
This summed it up pretty nicely.
You're not helping the situation, go back to /v/, you are so easy to pick out, it's not even funny.
Speeches were made by Kim Ki Nam and Choe Thae Bok, who are members of the Political Bureau and secretaries of the Central Committee of the WPK.
>People who only buy things they like are bad
>Fake Incest: The Melodrama
For once I didn't like that it wasn't actual incest. I mean, that resolution killed all the drama the movie had built until that point. Even an open ending with the MCs being unable to face the possibility of being brother and sister would have been much more interesting that the sudden happy ending.
The speakers said that the firework galas would be a festival of glory in glorifying the long history and immortal exploits of the party and a grand canvas of victory stirring up the pride and self-esteem of the service persons and people of the DPRK working fresh miracles and exploits in the era of Songun as befitting the descendants of President Kim Il Sung.
he looks like the kfc guy
Where can i get some source about animators being paid shit?
Cuz i don't buy that for a second.
They noted that the firework galas would be held by use of Korean style modern means for displaying fireworks developed in such a unique manner as to ensure formative artistic effect as required by the Korean people's ideological and emotional desire and sentiment.
He's right, BUT:
I don't think he understands just how many great things there still are out there. I think he's too crotchety and old to see past his face so all he sees it the wash of derivative moeshit/romcomshit/wannabe evagundamshit, which is admittedly bad.
He probably doesn't even know who Ikuhara or Nakamura are.
Part of the problem is that the resolution was ostensibly happy, but we didn't really get to see the results of it on their relationship - their feelings for each other weren't exactly developed or resolved, they just left it hanging.
Why the fuck are you spamming this thread? Let it fucking die.
Fireworks were displayed in succession in the air over the Party Founding Memorial Tower and the Mangyongdae Schoolchildren's Palace, gorgeously adorning the nocturnal sky of the capital city while songs "Long Live the Workers' Party of Korea" and "Under the Banner of the Party" reverberated far and wide.
BAAW GOD IS STONE COLD GONNA TAP
Language isn't defined by dictionary entries, and those dictionary entries are not great representations of how the English language use those words. "Humorously exaggerated" is a poor way of phrasing it, things that are generally agreed to be cartoons (like, say, Batman) are often not particularly funny. For something to be a cartoon is more about being stylized in a sort of way which is often humorous but not always. The purpose of dictionary definitions isn't to give a complete explanation of the concept, just enough to point at what it's supposed to mean. And funny drawings is close enough to get the general idea that that stayed in. But by the more fleshed out definition I just explained, anime totally are cartoons.
And the definition of anime is Japanese animation, with the rest of that "often having..." and "sometimes..." just giving the connotation. What you quoted absolutely does not say that anime are evil pervert cartoons and you need to get over yourself if you think that's what it says.
Get out you braindead idiot.
And that is common fucking knowledge, go fucking google it.
He's just an angry old man, like most of them. You're the one being really autistic about it and unrespectful, though.
The spectacular sceneries presented by fireworks in the sky represented the highest glory extended by all the servicepersons and people to General Secretary Kim Jong Il.
It's common knowledge.
An endless fire went up depicting the logo of the WPK to the tune of songs including "We Sing of the Party" and "The Care of the Party Is the House We Live in," "The Workers' Party Is Our Guide".
I still have to watch his Swan Song movie.
y do u get so mad at such insignificant things?
Fireworks were ceaselessly displayed in the sky presenting fantastic sceneries demonstrative of the high level of formative art, adding to the festive atmosphere.
Watching the firework galas were senior officials of the party, army and state, chairpersons of friendly parties, delegates participating in the national celebrations of the 65th birthday of the WPK, anti-Japanese revolutionary fighters, officials of the party, armed forces and power bodies and working people's organizations, servicepersons of the Korean People's Army and the Korean People's Internal Security Forces, officials in the fields of science, education, culture and arts, public health and media, heroes and heroines, those related to the anti-Japanese revolutionary struggle, bereaved families of the revolutionary martyrs, persons of merit and other working people.
Holy shit from the thumbnail I thought it was Duke Nukem with Anno
Invited there were members of congratulatory groups of overseas compatriots, delegations and visiting groups of Koreans from different parts of the world including the congratulatory group of Koreans in Japan, the chief of the Pyongyang mission of the Anti-Imperialist National Democratic Front, delegations and delegates of groups for the study of the Juche idea and diplomatic envoys of different countries, representatives of international organizations, members of the military attaches corps and other foreign guests here.
General Secretary Kim Jong Il was presented with a floral basket by Mahmoud Abbas, president of Palestine, chairman of the Executive Committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization and chief of the Palestinian National Authority, in congratulation of his reelection as general secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea and its 65th birthday.
Look at this retard who doesn't get the difference between late night anime and mainstream stuff like anpanman.
The floral basket was handed to Kim Yong Il, alternate Politburo member and secretary of the WPK Central Committee, by Palestinian Ambassador to the DPRK Ismail Ahmed Mohamed Hasan on Friday.
This thread is already dead, you don't need to keep bumping it
Dancing parties took place in different parts of the country on Friday to celebrate the 65th founding anniversary of the Workers' Party of Korea.
what happens in the third movie?
they turn them into sluts?
Dancing parties started as bands played song "Please Receive the Best Wishes of People" in such venues in Pyongyang as the plazas of the Arch of Triumph, the April 25 House of Culture and the Pyongyang Indoor Stadium.
Anything Miyazaki says will cause a shitstorm on /a/. Tomorrow he can say he took a shit that looks like Rei or he just finished masturbating to a Fatalpulse doujin and we'd have dozens of daily threads about it.
Youth and students presented dances with profound reverence and thanks to General Secretary Kim Jong Il who has developed the WPK into the eternal party of President Kim Il Sung and translated the desire of the President and the ideal of the people into a reality.
They danced to the tune of songs "It Is October", "It is the Pride of Our Party", "The Youth Shines Thanks to the Workers' Party", "Do Prosper, the Era of the Workers' Party" and other songs.
Similar events took place in various provinces, cities and county seats on the same day.
A performance of art circle members of the Mangyongdae Schoolchildren's Palace was also given on the same day to celebrate the 65th birthday of the WPK.
Pyongyang is now seized by a festive mood with the 65th anniversary of the Workers' Party of Korea (October 10) at hand.
How many fucking times are you neckbeards going to keep going on with these shitposts.
Seriously though, Hiyao points out about the animators being the fuck ups in the industry
and you guys cry as if he were referring to the western audience as well.
It's like /a/ is just full of underage outcasts with little to no reading comprehension who dwell
about what the godfather of japanese animation does to shit on their moeshit taste's. Now they're even
more autistic than ever.
Shit! This thread again!
And some anons still saying that Miyazaki is not relevant.
An increasing number of people, including servicepersons and students, have visited a statue of President Kim Il Sung on Mansu Hill with floral baskets and bouquets to pay respect to the founder of the WPK.
The streets are decorated with flags of the WPK and the DPRK and red flags as well as placards reading "Celebration", "Iron-willed Party" and "Invincible Party".
The Korean Revolution Museum, the Party Founding Museum and the Party Founding Memorial Tower have also been visited by a large number of people to learn about the glorious history of the WPK, which has successfully led the revolution and construction.
It's a misquote
I reported you, but mods are fucking useless anyway. They'd rather ban someone for just posting half a tit in an spoiler image than actually doing a good job at getting rid of shitposting and spam.
>This guy thinks you guys are ruining anime.
Not a moeshitter, try again.
>mods are fucking useless anyway. They'd rather ban someone for just posting half a tit in an spoiler image than actually doing a good job at getting rid of shitposting and spam.
He's right though.