What are /a/'s thoughts on incest as a key plot element?
>Koi Kaze - Long drawn out drama with semi-realistic depiction
>Kissxsis - lewd fuel, non-related total fantasy depiction
>Yosuga no Sora - lewd fuel, most erotic scenes, semi-realistic depiction
>Oreimo - lol
wow I should have really put the kirino image first so people would actually look at the thread
Oniai was somewhat interesting because it was over the top.
Oreimo was poop.
What about Salami-san?
I can't really think of a series other than Koi Kaze that really intended to be a serious treatment of the subject.
As you say, pretty much all of the others are either comedy or fap fodder, and most of them take the "they're really just step-siblings" cop-out.
I remember hearing that in the manga of Usagi drop she eventually becomes the guys lover or something but the anime doesn't go that far
its been on my back list for a long time though.
It's sort of weird that the most you usually get are bro-cons considering all the mangas and doujins out there which take the step over the line repeatedly.
Then again I guess its kinda hard to pitch these sort of things for funding
>I remember hearing that in the manga of Usagi drop she eventually becomes the guys lover or something but the anime doesn't go that far
But that would just be so wrong. Sometimes the anime version really is better.
>It's sort of weird that the most you usually get are bro-cons considering all the mangas and doujins out there which take the step over the line repeatedly.
>Then again I guess its kinda hard to pitch these sort of things for funding
Well, Shaft did give us the toothbrush scene.
yeah, but you couldn't pitch a show about that toothbrush scene, it was just sorta written in
theres lots of stuff you can 'leave out' when applying for the funding of course
remember human centipede? investers were pretty surprised to find out it was about ass to mouth
um, may I just interject to ask: which toothbrush scene?
Nisemonogatari. Tsukihi Poenix, Part One.
its not entirely unrealistic, just unlikely
Thank you, kind sirs. Been really meaning to catch up with that series; reckoned I'd start from the beginning again, seeing as it's been so long...
But, about incest more generally..yeah, it's inherent interestingness (not a word, but wtv) is kind of obscured by its use as a bog-standard ecchi standard. We don't get to explore all the meaty angst and stress which would result from it in real life. But meh. Suppose we can't expect that, from an entertainment medium primarily aimed at young adults...
>Arion - I'll wage war on gods so I can marry my sister
15 years later, I still like the OP song.
And the suicide contemplation in the end...
There needs to be more. The more there is, the more Japan will start to accept incest, and the more likely they'll let siblings marry.
And then what? Invite your to a trip there? She still wouldn't marry you.
nothing but pure fucking LOYALTY
I changed their diapers when they were babies, and quite frankly a dirty baby diaper is probably a level of hell. I deserve every right to be married with one or both of them.
did you wipe up or down
Spoken like a true older brother.
Deserving it has nothing to do with it. They still wouldn't marry you.
He deserves to be able to, if he manages to get married or not is another issue.
I would pay for a remake of Koi Kaze with good art/animation.
Don't force me to remember repressed memories. Both.
>one doesn't want to date boys and doesn't have any booys that are friends, yet she is in 7th grade
>the other is too violent, a bit selfish, and doesn't wash herself regularly. Probably won't get a boyfriend
>they still wouldn't marry you
I don't know who else they would marry. They even are decently fond of me. Signs are looking good.
Go and ask them, post results.
you wiped poop into their vaginas
you are a bad onii-chan
I never finished Koi Kaze. I should try to get back into it.
Yosuga no Sora was amazing (only the Sora arc though)
the thing I found interesting about Koi Kaze was it was more focused as an incest story and not a pedophilia story despite the massive age difference. Everyone in the manga was like "you're fucking your sister!" and not "you're fucking a highschool girl!".
Koi Kaze is really an interesting watch even though the art is pretty sub-par
Yeah for sure
except during the sandbox scene
You must have never changed a diaper before. Its all over the inside of the diaper. The ass cheeks, the taint, the vag. It can't be helped.
>1400 miles away
I do remember some childhood promise, when we were playing house, that we would marry each other. I more or less just went along with it at the time as to not make them sad.
what the fuck were you feeding them
I have two kids
So you got hung up on what they said during a phase that every little girl goes through despite the fact that you don't even have close interactions with them anymore.
best brother ever
I can't believe it's a year ago already
watching oniai right now, starting episode 3
its pretty meh so far, kinda generic but still over the top
I think its because that sort of age gap isn't as uncommon as the whole incest thing.
It's really a well written story, if only it had a bigger budget
I think that's attributed to Japanese culture in general.
>Oreimo - lol
Maybe if you where watching it as a harem, yeah its pretty silly, but if you actually pay attention to the siblings relationshit it makes perfect sense, it's realistic enough without becoming a heavy drama.
Incest /= depressive drama
>total fantasy depiction
>doesn't have twin step-sisters that lust for your cock
Get a load of this guy.
>oreimo being realistic
Absolutely disgusting, especially if worst girl (usually the sister) wins. Has there ever been a yuri/yaoi incest animu, or one where the MC is in love with his Christmas Cake onee-chan?
Waiting for the arguments...
How would that even work?
the parents being all for their kids fucking is the fantasy part
I had a friend who cock blocked me because he wanted to get with his stepsister
his jacked as fuck step brother beat the shit out of him so at least I got that out of it
isnt that the storyline of boku no pico and its various spinoffs
I've never actually watched it
girls with dicks
>girls with dicks
That'd be Futa on male, not yaoi.
Terrible if half assed. Like Oreimo. Only the porn was good.
>implying that hormone filled teenagers living on their own who find each other attractive aren't going to get carried away and fuck in every place imaginable
did you even go to highschool
>how to make an anime about incest that is not a joke full of fanservice.jpg
>Defending retarded 'so taboo' fap material
Its been almost 10 years since Koi Kaze. I don't think we'll get another incest show that isn't hentai/ecchi/harem. There probably isn't even a studio willing to take a chance on one.
its not like it even matters that they were brother and sister since they sure as shit don't act like it
>oh hey a cute boy let's fuck in the first date
>implying anyone here watched any of YnS aside from the Sora arc
>the art is sub par
Fuck you, the art is very good.
>oh hey our parents are dead, wanna fuck?
>there are people on this board who think Oreimo is a realistic depiction of siblings relationships
My favourite is Akira-chan.
I liked the art but it doesn't make it not subpar
Maybe you mean the animation and the QUALITY but the art itself was good.
yeah you got me
I never said that, i just said their relationship makes sense, but i'm still waiting for your arguments.
theres nothing to argue you're just an idiot
I meant that as 2 different things, but yeah it can work.
>Onee-chan gets ftm sex change
>MC more attracted to his Onee-chan now that she's a man
Kazusa's arc was my favorite, eat shit.
>if you actually pay attention to the siblings relationshit it makes perfect sense, it's realistic enough
Seems like you really said that to me.
>Oreimo is a realistic depiction of siblings relationships
I never said that.
I don't know what it was, but I just couldn't listen to Koshiro's voice. It was painful, it sounded like what my best attempt at an impression of someone that has been smoking 2 packs a day for 40 years would sound like.
Incest plot elements are fucking dumb and disgusting, stop this bullshit.
Isn't that the brother's friend?
Yup. That entire manga was absolutely retarded.
I don't even know how I remembered that when I haven't even read it. I just recognized the pic.
Like I said, they were babies, their digestive systems are still developing. Go google baby poopy diapers on google images.
>don't even have close interactions with them anymore
I now see them for for at least 3 months every year. I lived with them and grew up with them for 8 years before I moved out.
More like I'm just waiting for things to take their course. I'd never marry/date a 3dpd anyway, but if it is what makes my sisters happy, I'm more than willing to walk the extra mile.
What would you guys do if you were the brother?
Shes underage, she is(was) your pure sister that you love, your friend not only defiled her/took advantage of her, he could have killed her in the process.
all greatest love stories ever told
>willingly discussing Mon Seul
captcha: eepbudy standards
And this is why I don't have friends.
Kana little sister genuinely made me feel sick in some of the scenes. I only ever managed to finish the Yumi route then I uninstalled it.
wow just starting to read this and ohgod
Is she an elf or just a really ugly eleven?
The art is just QUALITY
He, an already fully grown man, raised her since she was a baby.
Now they're fucking like rabbits.
>since she was a baby
No. More like since she was 6 or 7.
>Oreimo - lol
What's that supposed to mean?
I agree with you but I'm sorry that your post has fallen on deaf ears. It's to be expected. Sometimes I think Oreimo is just too deep for /a/.
It's pretty self explanatory.
how can you seriously consider oreimo to be deep
the deepest thing I remember is about people knocking things before trying it, pic related
I only saw the first season, seconds still on backlog though, but I know enough spoilers from /a/ that I haven't exactly bothered moving it up in my watchlist.
>watching the anime
You fucked up.
>commenting on it when you haven't even finished it
You fucked up again.
The deepest thing in that show was the vagoos.
This is exactly how I feel about it. The studio switch the fucking character resets (I watched the first few eps) and generally fuckshittery is not very encouraging
Go use that on the other Oreimo thread right the hell now.
>lol = lots of love
So there is lots of love in oreimo hence the harem whereas the others weren't a harem. So Oreimo has lots of love compared to the others.
has plenty of drama-fuel and life-ruining potential as long as the stereotypical "we're not blood related lol" bullshit doesn't show up
it also (the serious ones) tends to approach the relationship from a more realistic angle, which is a nice change of pace
Koi Kaze had a great OST.
It's already near the bump limit, I'll leave it for another time.
I'm sorry to see the plot went over your head.
Oreimo really isn't all that deep. There's just more to it than people think so it gets a bad rap because it's interpreted as a harem seriest with incest. So they rarely go into it with an open mind and don't even bother taking a peek under the surface. This is mostly due to the botched anime adaptation unfortunately. But that's fine if people don't like it, it doesn't upset me. I just wanted to post this image to maybe give you the idea that there could be some themes and development hidden inside that story.
>criticise oreimo to any degree
>don't even mention girl preferences
>savage kirinofags come in spouting the aame shit about "reading the novels" and "manami/kuronekofag tears are le delicious" etc.
I hate this damn show and any fucking discussion to do with it. Why is it so bad? Because the tame incest attracted a bunch of faggotcunts that can't think straight (probably due to being a product of incest)? Or is it just inherently fucking awful? I certainly hated the shitty character development that's for sure
I fucking hate that incest threads are now polluted by oreimofags.
I like you
I dont understand. Am I supposed to be reading this right to left or left to right?
>I hate this thing because I'm not willing to give it a chance or listen to any arguments
Willful ignorance is hilarious to see on /a/, it's so common. You hate things so you complain about them, but it doesn't matter because if someone gave you a reason to like it you wouldn't care, because you don't want to like it in the first place. Such narrow-mindedness.
op here, all girls are worst girl.
he's better off moving and meeting someone at college
Usagi Drop is vile, it makes Koi Kaze look so nice in comparison.
It just so happens that oreimo is a love it or hate it thing and thus generates the most discussion.
I'm not a lolicon, but I kind of liked the meruru idol and the loli track star. You were right in saying the other girls were bad though.
>oreimo is a love it or hate it thing
Spot on. There are a few on the fence people that get opinions from both sides and then default to one or another based on their state of mind, but there are always those 2 types.
Yet nothing in my post has hinted that I will not/have not listened. The show's been done for what 6 months or so now? I think it is fucking shit, it's not ignorance cunt nugget it's an opinion that has yet to be budged by all the discussions I've had on it. I had no idea what this show would be like when I picked it up at the start of the 2010 fall season and I've gone through 2 seasons withba bad taste in my mouth.
Oh and let's just crush the last point in your post by saying that I liked MC at times.
but, koi kaze -was- nice.
Yet nothing in my post has hinted that I will not/have not listened. The show's been done for what 6 months or so now? I think it is fucking shit, it's not ignorance cunt nugget it's an opinion that has yet to be budged by all the discussions I've had on it. I had no idea what this show would be like when I picked it up at the start of the 2010 fall season and I've gone through 2 seasons with a bad taste in my mouth.
Oh and let's just crush the last point in your post by saying that I liked MC at times despite being the typical beta nippon protag.
I think your russka intranet is exploding sir