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Bit of a rant, bit of a review, mostly I just need to fucking vent. If you're up for a long read, this is for you. For everyone else:

tl;dr: sat through oreimo. didn't like it. don't know why the fuck it's such a big deal.

From start to finish I sat through this whole series. Mostly out of curiosity because of how big a deal it was to people and I wanted to see what the fuck it was about besides the incest. Honestly I don't understand why people like tsundere-themed series, because you're stuck watching the same beta lump berated by....well let's face it a total bitch for however many episodes a series is, this being no different.

The only episode I actually enjoyed was at the start of the series where Kyosuke spent the night at Manami's place because it was funny and had characters that had different persionalities. Even Kyosuke's changed. He was fucking happy for once! But sadly we return to the adventures of "Hey, let's watch this bitch treat her brother like shit because hey, he likes to fucking chill and she just can't have that!". Yes I am aware of the flashback episode. I'm also aware of the "altered" ending because of the incest issue. But that doesn't excuse shit writing. That also doesn't excuse the absence of a directors cut for those who really wanted to see Kirino get the D. Pretty sure there's doujin out there as well.

What started as a guilty pleasure turned into a chore, mostly because I got my hopes up that hey, maybe this could be interesting. Sadly all I got was 20-something episodes of a bitch sister bossing around her beta brother.

Your thoughts? Or should I say let the shitstorm begin?
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oh boy here we go
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>>101395648
like the calm before the storm isn't it?
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Please stop.
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Daily reminder that best girl won!
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Seems like OP has yet to do some mandatory reading.

Hop to it.
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>>101395701
Not really. No one cares what you think.
Oreimo was shit. The girls were cute and the doujin are great, but it's still shit.
I wouldn't blame anyone for enjoying it though, I sure did.
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Yes the worst girl won.
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>>101396001
By worst girl you mean the goddess that is Kirino?
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>>101396132
why does she have that stupid tooth thing
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>>101396989
it's supposed to symbolize that she's a mischievous kid. I honestly expected that thing to come flying out when Manami abortion punched her
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>>101396989
Nips are known for having bad teeth.
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>>101395768
But that's wrong you fucking retard.
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>>101396989

Plebeian.
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She wasn't a tsundere because there was no tsun. She was just a cunt.
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>>101396989
It's called moefang, newfriend.
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>>101397152
So you're saying she was 100% dere?

That's stupid.
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>>101397152
theres a difference?
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>>101396132
>>101395768
Do you all happen to have the picture that shows Kirinofags licking the tears of the Kuronekofags?
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>>101395578
OP you are a faggot
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>>101399177
we're on 4chan, the word faggot is a synonym for a person here. So whatever weight you hoped that insult had is nonexistent.
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>>101395578
The whole LN and thus the anime are just an elaborate fanwank by the author that was serialized.
Maybe the publishers were testing the waters to see what sells.
I just can't believe that this shit sells and is gobbled up by so many otaku in the west.
I can understand the japanese otaku, they're already totally bonkers, but not the western otaku.
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>>101399560
>fanwank
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>>101399560
people pay good money to see micheal bay movies here in the u.s., how could you be surprised? lol
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>>101395578
>I hate when people like what I don't
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>What started as a guilty pleasure turned into a chore
Because the first series was good and the second was shit.
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>>101395578
I've been putting off reading the novel because the little sister is too annoying. I'll probably never read it since I've been too spoiled about the ending anyway.
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>>101399560
>KlKfag
>Fanwank
>Implying you've read the novels
>Implying any fan of the series says the anime as a stand alone is good
Nah fuck you.
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>>101399965
>>101399965

>>101400066
Although it didn't end well, I enjoyed the second season almost as much as the first.
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>>101400876
>there are people in this thread who want to get stabbed
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>>101399951
But explosions are awesome no matter how stupid the movie they are in is.
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>>101396989
>Not liking fangs
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>>101399771
The author's a fan of siscon, so it is fanwank.

>>101399951
Oh, I forgot that fact.
And there are rednecks and other incestoids too in the US.

>>101400191
I never said I was a fan of the series, but I did watch the first season and was disgusted by the story, Kirino and Kyousuke.

Now I just enjoy the meganekko trio of OLEV Oreimo brought us through the capable hands of Hiro Kanzaki.
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>>101400930
She's fake yandere. Manami is the real yandere.
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>>101401258
So unless you write what you dislike, your writing is fanwank?

>Great Gatsby - Fanwank
>Plato's The Republic - Fanwank
>The Sun Also Rises - Fanwank
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>>101401081
true but for $12 a ticket and having to sit through shia le douchenozzle as the main character? yuck
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>>101401415
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>>101401440
Good point.
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>>101401415
Yes that is correct.
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>>101401415
>Comparing a shittily written siscon pseudoharem fanwank to great classics of literature.
You're worse than Tomoko Kuroki, you festering piece of otaku rat.
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>>101401258
No need to try so hard to prove you're retarded. We gather that much from the KlK image.
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>>101395578
>tl;dr: sat through oreimo. didn't like it. don't know why the fuck it's such a big deal.
hawt incest tsundere, that's why.
also i want do stick my peen into kuroneko
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>>101402374
try yosuga no sora. better story, better characters and sex scenes
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>>101402493
Yosuga no Sora would have been better if it wasn't in the omnibus format.

I mean, it had a bit of overlap so you can appreciate their relationship the most after you gain the knowledge from the other routes, but still.
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>>101402598
>In conclusion: this series is pretty DEEP for a porn

i couldn't have said it better myself
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>>101395578
>model
>top athlete
>she gets her own anime
>ayase loves her
>kuroneko envies her
>manami just wants whats best for them
>lol nope imouto is perfection lets have a freakout in public every damn episode and spill a bucket on her head for no good reason

idont care anymore fuck you kirinofags
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>>101403379
I-I don't get what you're trying to say here, anon-kun.. Do you hate Kirino or not?
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>>101403379
>manami just wants whats best for them

See, that's where you're wrong. She doesn't want what's best. She wants to have Kyousuke be a beta, bored loser all his life, dependent on her, amongst other things. She's a really nasty piece of work.
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>>101395833
Fffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkk yyyyyyyyyyyyoooooooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

I know all about why Kirino acts the way she does, I know the backstory, I know the history. An unlikeable bitch is an unlikeable bitch. There are tsundere girls I like, but Kirino was a little shit. The whole show fucking sucked the light novel sucked, and I've been so sick of seeing it around /a/ for the past year and a half. Fuck you.
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>>101403693
thank you. if i have to read a pamphlet on why a show is supposed to be good, it makes it suck that much more. although i apologize to you for feeding the fire on /a/ that i wasn't aware of till i saw your post
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>>101403693
Kyousuke is a tsundere shit too, you think they don't deserve each other?
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>>101403693
>Fffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkk yyyyyyyyyyyyoooooooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

Reddit pls go
You're in violation of rule 6 and may be banned.
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I remember that Kirino got a lot more support after the LN revealed that Manami was a super normalfags of the greatest order. Before that she still had a following but nothing like the "miracle of the universe" type.
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This thread is great, I love seeing people getting constantly angry at Kirino. The more you people hate her the more I love her.
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>>101403827
My problem isn't that I "have to read a pamphlet on why a show is good" it's the fact that even with the backstory she's unlikeable. You can have a billion reasons why a character behaves shitty, but it doesn't mean they're any more likeable.
>>101403939
Please don't bully.
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>>101404143
>typical kirinofag
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>Pretty sure there's doujin out there as well.
Before she won the oreims, before there even was an oreimo anime, /a/ already knew kirino as the "Global Warming in my Pussy" doujin line.
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>>101404184
>You can have a billion reasons why a character behaves shitty, but it doesn't mean they're any more likeable.

See that's where you're wrong dude. Why do you think there are people who like Kirino in the first place? Because they realized without "having to read the pamphlet" why Kirino did the things she did. It just means that you didn't pay enough attention to the story itself, and I caught on to it with the anime itself and not the LN.
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I may give this a shot, best girl seems cute and I wanna read the to aru Oreimo xovers
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>tfw Kirino is my waifu
>tfw I can accept that people don't like her
>tfw I like all the other characters too EXCEPT MAN-AM-I-SHIT
I wish I could be hateful and get into fights about waifus.
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>>101404512
I may give this a shot.

Remember, there's only one season.
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>>101404248
Oh my, how observant of you!

Should I suck your cock now for stating the obvious?
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>>101404475
Why are you replying to someone with no reading comprehension. He's of the school that "Oreimo is shit, let's plaster it on /a/ until everyone hates it." The threads the actual fans make are great and people discuss the story. Don't feed the retarded trolls and maybe his thread will die.
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>>101404541
There's two seasons, and the second one is the best one.
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>>101404360
im not sure i follow, could you elaborate please?
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>Love incest
>Just read the incest doujinshi
>Don't watch or read the actual series
>Never have to deal with the negative personality points
>Only pure incest love

Yes, this is how Oreimo was meant to be enjoyed.
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>>101404579
Well, he did at the very least sit through the entire thing without dropping it like most Oreimo haters.

I feel that we should at least point him in the right direction.

But I guess that's too much to ask for.
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>>101404702
It's common knowledge the LNs are required reading. If they're not going to read them and pay attention, just ignore them.
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>>101404819
Well alright then, I'm out
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oreimo was a painful disappointment because it had so much potential and possibilities AND IT WENT FOR THE WORST FUCKING ONE.
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>>101404645
Before the oreimo anime even got greenlit, a line kirino says to kyousuke in a doujin was constantly posted in "crazy lines from hentai" threads. The line was about vagina global warming.
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>>101404475
I said that I knew the backstory, and did the reading because people often bring it up as a reason why everybody who doesn't love Kirino is wrong.
It seems to people who like Kirino it is impossible to dislike Kirino and that if you do, you are completely wrong and desperately retarded.
>>101404579
Maybe if you little shits didn't always act so smug, insulting, and superior towards people who just happen to not like a character you like, we would all get along better.
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>>101404976
Ah. Wow. Don't know whether that's hilarious or just weird, but thank you.
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>>101405010
>I said that I knew the backstory, and did the reading
Reading a short summary instead of actually reading the novels doesn't count. She puts up with a lot of shit in the books, they're constantly thinking about each other, and she's way more dere and supportive to him.

>>101404917
>My favorite girl should win
>Not the one with the most development and romantic interaction with the MC
This is what's wrong with most "romance" series now.
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>>101405136
/a/ history nigga.
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>>101405222
>Reading a short summary instead of actually reading the novels doesn't count. She puts up with a lot of shit in the books, they're constantly thinking about each other, and she's way more dere and supportive to him.

At least you didn't label me a drooling nitwit. I can respect you for that.
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>>101395578
Face it anon. Most fans of this series are perverts who have the hots for little sister incest or sex with a tsundere lolis. The story was shit. They watch it for Kirino/Kuroneko alone. Those who watch for "good plot" or "believable characters" walk away sorely disappointed.
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The only thing I dislike about the oreimo fanbase is their over defensiveness. You can't call that cop out ending shit without a million people screaming at you that it wasn't the author's fault, as if that somehow excused the ending.

It's like if I said DtB2 sucked and someone then intervened with "it could have been different, stop hating".
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Oreimo:

>kirino's love and support pushes kyousuke to be all he can be
>kyousuke's greatness inspires kirino to become ambitious too so she can keep up with him
>kyousuke faces an impossible situation with sakurai, and gives up trying to solve it
>kirino tries to intervene, scolding him for giving up
>kyousuke hits a low in his life, and becomes pathetic

>kirino's life counseling pushes kyousuke to become ambitious again, causing him to >help and support kirino when she needs it
>kirino faces an impossible situation with ayase, and gives up trying to solve it
>kyousuke intervenes, scolding her for giving up
>kyousuke goes out of his way to help her solve her problem at his own expense, making himself look like a fool in front of a girl he likes
>kyousuke's love and support push kirino to beat her rival in a race
>kyousuke faces an impossible situation with kuroneko, and gives up trying to solve it
>kirino intervenes, scolding him for giving up
>kirino goes out of her way to help him solve his problem despite how it hurts her, hoping to make kyousuke happy again
>kirino's love and support push kyousuke to try his hardest to get an A on his mock exam
>kyousuke realizes he never solved his situation with sakurai
>kirino's love and support help kyousuke to resolve it after all the time that has passed

(1/2)
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>>101405559
>They watch it for Kirino/Kuroneko alone.
I tried to watch it for that and got a male MC.
Walked away sorely disappointed.
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>>101405384
>At least you didn't label me a drooling nitwit
I'm not here to fling insults like a retard. I'm telling you that the anime did a bad job at fleshing out characters and it skipped a lot. If you don't read all the LNs, you won't know what's going on.

I don't care if people don't like a series, but don't talk about the characters like you know them if you really don't know how the story goes or missed some things. Just come to a fucking thread and ask.

People shitposting about things they either didn't understand or didn't read is one of the biggest issues on /a/ right now.
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>>101405729
>kyousuke faces an impossible situation with kirino, but doesn't give up trying
>kyousuke becomes Super Kyousuke, accepting that his child self has always been a part of him, and confesses his love to Kirino
>kirino and kyousuke become lovers
>kirino faces an impossible situation with kyousuke, and tries to compromise by dating temporarily
>kyousuke intervenes, refusing to throw away his feelings for her

>kirino and kyousuke face an impossible situation with their love
>instead of giving up, they resolve to continue with their life counseling to overcome the obstacles they face

Firstly, the anime was shit, even Oreimo fans agree on that. The story is only told well in the light novel series which most people here haven't read. There are these themes and developments present in the LNs that just aren't there in the anime because it wasn't well done.
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>>101398804
Kuroneko is such an irrelevant character it's hilarious, and combined with how manipulative she is of Kirino and Kyousuke I don't get why people like her. I guess it's because she had a lot of non-canon stuff and some of her flaws from the LN were completely cut out. She's practically a fanservice character.

Super cute though.
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>>101404682
>do this for years
>watch the show
>read LN

now I can't enjoy the dousinshi
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>>101395833
http://pastebin.com/VixaBZ8F

http://pastebin.com/MWLcYrqv
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>>101406025
You brought it on yourself.
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>>101405862
did kirino cum in his face?
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>>101404682
You are smarter than most
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>>101397152
Firstly you don't know what tsun means, and secondly there is plenty of dere, mostly later in the series.
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I don't think I hate any character as much as Kirino. Holy fuck I hate that bitch. Just look at that entitled dumb face
I would hatefuck her though
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>>101401258
My little Anon can't be this dense.

It really blows my mind that things like pic related went completely over people's heads. It's as is if they thought Oreimo was a harem series and didn't bother paying attention to anything.
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>>101404579
Are you serious, right now?
>Manami a shit
>Kirino best girl
>Manami a shit
>Manami a literal shit
>Kuroneko is a whore
>Kirino best girl
>Manami a literal shit
>Fuck everyone that doesn't think this is the GLSET
>Manami a literal shit
>Manami a literal shit
>Manami a shit
>Kirino best girl
>Bump limit, okay guys, new thread
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>>101403379
To be fair half of what you just said is non-canon. The anime staff was delusional and thought they could pull off a Kuroneko end, so Fushimi stomped them into the dust for leading people on like that.
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>>101406347
What does your pic related have to do with anything?
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>>101406422
That's not the fanbase. The people trying to start shitstorms aren't the real fans. The real fans dump artwork, upload BD extras and discuss the series quietly while happily educating people who aren't familiar with the source material.
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>>101406441
People who think Kuroneko or even Ayase ever had a chance are the same kind of people that think don't think Yozora will win in Haganai. They let their own feelings get in the way of common sense.
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>>101404184
I'm going to post a few nice excerpts where you can see how much their relationship has changed and how much they have grown, especially Kirino. Of course most of these were cut from the anime.
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>>101406653
There was a girl who was leaning against the gate.

"— You’re here."

It was Kirino.

"How was your exam? Did you fail?"

That was the first thing she said. Was that how you greet your aniki who just had an important exam, someone who you haven't seen for a long time? This was the same as usual, but I couldn't help but smile when I heard that.

So I deliberately put on a confident attitude to respond to her:

"There is absolutely no problem — don't forget our bet."

"Yeah, yeah, it's just as you say."

Kirino was leaning against the gate, both of her hands in her pockets.

Today, she wore a wool cap and a jacket — I rarely see her in such boyish clothes.

Looking at her clothes, I realized that it’s now winter.

"So, why are you here?"

"Ayase told me that you’re hurt."

She didn't seem to be very concerned.

Hey Ayase, you don't have to tell Kirino everything.

"Hurt? What are you talking about?"

"Don't play dumb with me. Are you idiot? Still trying to put on an act…"

"Ugh…"

She’s so good at making me angry.

"Does it hurt?"

"Nah, I'm fine."

I showed her my bandaged right hand. She immediately gripped it.

"It hurts!"

What are you doing!

"So it does hurt."

"You, you…"

Kirino took a few steps forward then turned to face me and said:

"What are you standing there for? Shouldn't you go to the hospital?"

"………Yeah."

I grit my teeth and walked side by side with my little sister.
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>>101395578
pastebin time!

http://pastebin.com/VixaBZ8F
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>>101406422
Saved for future use.

Thanks.
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>>101406578
This. I can vouch for this. I've been in many Oreimo threads with tons of discussion. If you don't believe me I will post archive links.
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>>101406653
Or you could just let people look at this pic and pretend this is how the series ended
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>>101404702
In case nobody has read the pastebin posted earlier. Which you all should.

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/?title=Ore_no_Im%C5%8Dto_ga_Konna_ni_Kawaii_Wake_ga_Nai
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>>101406777
Is that redhead Manami?
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>>101406769
I wouldn't go nuts over it. There are people who don't approach things with an open mind and buy into pre existing bias started from shitposting.

It's best to ignore those people.
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>>101406769
I can honestly say that I don't believe you.
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Kirino and Manami didn't say anything — then Kirino did something unexpected. She suddenly bowed.

"I'm sorry. I was a non-sensible kid back then."

"It's okay. Actually... I'm not in any position to talk down to you anyway."

"Thank you very much."

"It's fine. I wasn't bothered by that."

Manami smiled and replied. Kirino looked up, her temple twitching.

"Ah right, you did forget about it. By the way — are you still angry?"

"I'm still angry."

"Not because of three years ago?"

"No, because of something right now."

"I see. Looks like we need to be honest with other."

"Yes. Else, we would never be able to make up."

— Can you two pay attention to me? What should I do?

Sparks flying when their eyes met, Kirino glanced at me and slowly said:

"Three years have come to pass before I once again received help from aniki — he has helped me time and time again since then. Little by little we started having small talks with each other. I finally understood what Manami meant back then. My aniki is not an invincible superhero. He can only do normal things. He is a normal student. He felt happy when he got a girlfriend. He felt lost and frustrated when he was dumped. He got angry when someone played with him. He cried when he was hurt — just like me, he is a normal human being."

"…Kirino."
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>>101406865
That's Sena.
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>>101406946
We'll, where's redhead Manami?
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>>101406944
What is going on… Damn… what the hell is going on.

Now… I really… want to apologize to my little sister.

But that would upset her, so I stopped myself.

I'm sorry. I'm not a good aniki.

I'm sorry. I can't become your invincible superhero.

I'm sorry for being a normal guy.

"My 'aniki' who loved to take care of others was actually just forcing himself, showing off, risking everything."

Something so simple, yet back then I couldn't understand —

Kirino gritted her teeth and looked down.

Then she looked up at Manami.

"So now, I will say this for three years ago — Manami, thank you for taking care of aniki."

I have a feeling there would be a lot less Manamifags if the SUPER IMPORTANT things like these scenes weren't cut.
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>>101406865
>Implying Kyousuke puts his dick near worst girl
Nah.
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>>101407028
There are no real Manami fans left. All the rape and shit comments by Kirinofags scared them off.

I hope you are all proud of yourselves.
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>>101407023
Who wants to fuck manami? she is ugly anon.
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I would have liked Manami if she looked this like instead
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>>101407023
actually on the next page she's stuck washing all the stained clothes.
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>>101407102
"I plan to visit Sakurai."

"Why?"

"Because I haven't apologized to her."

"…Even if you apologize now, it might just cause her more trouble."

"You are right. This is to satisfy myself. I'm not doing it 'for someone else.'"

"Even in that case, how are you going to meet Sakurai-san? She changed her phone number and address; it won't be easy finding them."

"Still, it's not totally impossible."

Where there's a will, there's a way. That's what I believe.

"…You are so stubborn."

Manami shook her head.
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>>101407163
no thank you! stil ugly.
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>>101407102
Don't pretend like this was an oreimo fanbase thing. /a/ was flooded for at least three days of hate for Manami because the situation at the time presented itself as "incest vs normalfaggortry".

It was just vicarious hate.
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>>101407219
"— You should know that better than anyone else."

Someone interrupted Manami and me. Only Kirino would call Manami 'you'[2]…Since when did she…

Kirino was wearing sportswear which allowed easy movement. Her arms folded across her chest.

Still… not 'Tamura-chan' nor 'Manami-onee-san.' Just 'you'… that much showed me that both of them had a change in their relationship.

"When he is like that, he won't listen to anything we say. So just leave him be."

"— I knew that."

Manami smiled wryly.

"Even if he was worried about Sakurai-san, he wouldn't admit it, right?"

"Didn't he become that way because of Manami?"

"He was originally like that."

You two didn't bother hiding huh. I'm standing right here, you know?

After joined in with Manami to make fun of me, Kirino suddenly turned to me.

With a serious tone, she said,

"From your story, I think that what you are about to do will be very difficult — you really have no intention of giving up?"

"Thank you for your advice. But I have made up my mind."

"I see."

Raising her chest, Kirino scratched the back of her head and said:

"Really, ah… this can't be helped."

She sighed and walked to me.

Then she shoved something into my chest.

"How about using this?"

"…This is… my cell phone? What are you going to do?"

"Just like you said, 'granny's bag of wisdom.'"

That's what Kirino's aniki usually said.
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>>101407163
So, if she had Grade S hair and wasn't a meganekko?

I admit, that is quite pretty.
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>>101407269
Exactly. Who read the novel. It's not about incest and normalfaggortry. Manami basically destroyed the normal sibling relationship from the beginning. If it wasn't for her. Kirino and Kyousuke would have become just normal siblings.
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>>101407284
Even in this crowd we're quarreling.

Really… Our relationship is still the same.

We always cause so much commotion but in the end there's no progress.

Even without progress, the oath remained unchanged.

"Hey."

"Yes?"

"…….."

"What did you just say?" asked Kyousuke with a wry smile on his face.

Ah, it seems like my words were drowned out by the crowd.

I could just repeat myself once more, but for me, using my words to express my feelings is a difficult challenge, not to mention that this wasn't something I could just repeat.

So at the very least.

"Hmph. It’s nothing!"

I held his hand tightly.

Hopefully I will never make the mistake of letting it go.

This one is hard to see the significance of without context. Kirino is narrating here. If you read Oreimo, you'll soon realize that Kyousuke is extremely dishonest with himself. This is even evident in the anime. Most of the time, when Kyousuke narrates his thoughts on something or guesses someone's motivation, in actuality it's the completely opposite. He straight up lies to the reader on numerous occasions. With this chapter it's easy to see that Kirino is the same way. She isn't honest with herself at all.
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>>101407109
>not making love to redhead grade s no-glasses Manami
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>>101407474
>If it wasn't for her. Kirino and Kyousuke would have become just normal siblings.

I love the irony of this, and it's much more evident in the LNs. Kirino knows this. She loves this. Manami shot herself in the foot with her manipulations and scheming. They would have never ended up together without her butting in.
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>>101407542
Kirino is mean
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>>101407542
Whe have to thank Manami for that. If she didn't do the manipulating stuff. This wouldn't have become the greatest love story ever told!
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>>101407542
Manami created a monster! in you're face!
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>>101407727
But Toradora is the GLSET!
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>>101407542
Manami, don't fuck with imoutos. Or else.....
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>>101407163
I hate her actual design, but I don't like that one either. It's real similar to Kirino and Ayase's hair.
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When Moot makes the 'Anime - Forbidden Love' board, will Oreimo threads disappear?
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>>101407607
Yes she is.

But Manami and Kuroneko are 10x the bitch Kirino is. Ayase maybe 5x. Unfortunately you're too dense to see it though, so you'll insist that Kirino is mean because her harshness is on the surface and anyone can see it, while the the things that the other girls did to harm Kyousuke and Kirino in the relationship are harder to see. But you're not willing to read into it which is hampering your enjoyment like everyone else shitposting ITT.

It's funny, people shit on Manami while Ayase, Kuroneko, and even Kanako all did the exact same thing that she did. They wanted to tear apart the sibling relationship that Kyousuke and Kirino had, subvert their happiness for their own selfish reasons. They had no regards for their feelings and even tried to blackmail Kirino into confessing.

Of course this was cut from the anime though. There are no breaks on the waifufag pandering train.
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>>101407486
>Cut from anime adaptaion: Mikagami being best side character.

A few minutes later, I told Mikagami about 'how Mom misunderstood my relationship with Kirino and forced me to live alone outside'. He just smiled without saying anything.

After a moment he said,

"…I see. So you must feel a little lost right?"

"….How could you know?"

"You aren’t exactly lost - but rather you are paying attention to trivial stuff. You are not honest with yourself, so you will definitely not admit it. However, I have to say it; you feel troubled because you don't want to leave your dear Kirino's side."

"It's not like that!!"

In short, the answers I received from everyone were all nonsense.

"In order to become one with your little sister, your parent's reaction is a tough challenge for both of you."

"…Are you listening to me?"

Why did you make the base assumption that I wanted to marry my little sister?

"Of course I'm listening. I think that you are too anxious right now. Do you think that your choices are that limited?"

Limited choices? Did you think of something?

"Well…maybe that's because my body does not feel very well."

With a mountain of problems, I was lost. Not to mention that I didn't even know why I felt like this.

So he meant that I shouldn't and couldn't worry about it?

"You have good intentions, but sometime it's better to stop, right? That's my advice for you - don't pay too much attention to those trivial matters. Look, the weather is nice today."
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>>101407910
Let's hope he doesn't do it. Because /a/ is the only place for Oreimo.
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Oreimo confuses me.

On one hand, I love tsundere.
On the other, I hate Kirino.
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>>101406938
Okay. Scroll down.

http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/100903018/#100939985

I have more too.
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>>101408274
"Cheer up!"

Kirino said in a gentle voice and warmly stroked my head.

Ah, a long time ago, when my little sister was ignored during the offline meeting, I also comforted her like this.

“----You've already put forth enough effort.”

“I'm on your side.”

Until now, our positions have been reversed.

The little sister was comforting her elder brother.

“No matter how useless Aniki is, even if everyone else abandons you, I'll still be here with you. I will worry about you and scold you until the end.”

Even if it was extremely embarrassing, even if my face felt hot, it gave me strength. I felt more at ease than anyone.

"--- That’s why… cheer up, Aniki."

The bonds between us were those of family. Blood. Siblings. No matter which way you say it, it doesn't matter. My ineloquent self can not express the feelings I have right now.

Only… Only.

"… Thank you, Kirino."

I have been saved by my little sister.

Tears began to flood out again, but they were another kind of tears.
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>>101408180
Not if /afl/ becomes a board.

Wouldn't you like that? A board consisting entirely of Kirinobros? No Kuroneko, no Manami, no Ayase? There wouldn't even be people that dislike Oreimo as a whole. It would just be Kirino-filled Oreimo threads, YnS threads, and also Sakura Trick because yuri is also not Hitomi-friendly.
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Though she was clearly overly embarrassed, Kirino continued hugging me from behind.

She hugged me tightly; until she had warmed me.

In the dark, we siblings were stuck together.

I still couldn't stop my tears. It was great that she couldn't see my face, I thought.

… It’s already too late.

I've already shown this girl how useless I am, I've shown her my weaknesses and she held me up in my time of need. I won't be able to rid myself of the shame for the rest of my life.

I am already beyond help.

How long have I been like this...?

My tears finally stopped, and Kirino said:

"Hey."

"Eh?"

"You… didn't you already say it? If I really had a boyfriend… you'd cry."

"… Ah."

“So, if I found somebody that I loved… and went out with him… then got dumped by him before he disappeared without a trace… and if I cried…”

“You… what would you do?”

Kirino asked me in a warm voice.

"That…"

“Ah… please don't say anything. I know how you would feel even without you saying it, since we're siblings. Yes --- you'd also feel the same way, right?”

"Ah, really, it can't be helped."

Kirino seemed to imitate that tone, and made an intentional complaint.

She separated herself from me, and turned in front of me.

Like the way we parted at that time --- she made an intriguing and fresh smile.

"Kyousuke, leave it to me."

Okay I'm done. But I hope you guys didn't just hide my posts and insist on continuing being ignorant. At least TRY to see the obvious theme here.
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>>101408293
When does that archived thread stop being shit?
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>>101408555
I had linked it to the post where a discussion starts. Are you retarded?
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>>101408500
The last thing /a/ needs is to become more normalfag friendly.
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>>101406494
>being this retarded
>seriously being this retarded
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>>101408274
> After half of the light novel being posted i understand nothing!
Can you feel human emotions?
Can you understand hardships ?
Can you understand trauma?
or can you even understand the reasons in psychology you do the things you do in your everyday life?
anon to say this clearly you are a faggot with out a mindset or emotions to go with it if you can't understand the things kirino does.
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>typical manami fan
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMU0fgdzFGM
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>>101406777
That doujin is great.

But if you wanted a shallow, pandering ending like that you shouldn't have watched the show in the first place since it's obvious you're dense as fuck. To quote the author, Oreimo is Kirino's story.
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>>101406777
Are you a retard? DId you fucking pay attention to the story? The author said it himself, Oreimo is about kirino and not some cheap harem story.
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>>101405729
>You never cared about me my whole life and only now you're trying to act the big brother part?

You don't even have to watch Season 2 that Kirino's tsundere attitude has a reason behind it and is rooted in their childhood.

Holy fuck, why are anime viewers so stupid?
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Why is it every time /a/ declares something GLSET it's completely overrated and forgettable?
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>>101409065
Kare Kano is not forgettable.
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>>101408984
You need some good working brains to understand Kirino and her actions. Those fags think she does that just for fun. And they hate her for that. But they don't fucking thake some time to think about her actions.
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>>101409116
>Kare Kano
I don't count it since it predates /a/
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>>101408627
Too late. Posting tumblr shit and saying you go there doesn't get you yelled at until you leave anymore.
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>>101408406
Why is she so perfect, /a/?
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>>101409137
I honestly find it hilarious that peple conveniently skip over all of the times where Kirino expressed her true feelings whenever thinking about how much she abuses Kyousuke. They also refuse to remember the times when she supported Kyousuke and helped him.

I'm reminded of the time in Volume 2 where Kyousuke is worried that Manami hates him because she stopped talking to him. He goes to Kirino for advice on what to give as a gift to her. Kirino hates Manami, and as you see in Volume 7 is depressed because Kyousuke hangs out with her more than Kirino. But regardless of her feelings she sees how depressed he is and helps him out. This is the same as what she does with Kuroneko, because she cares about Kyousuke's happiness more than she cares about being with him.

Yeah, what a complete bitch. 110% tsun.
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>>101408984
your guess is as good as mine...
I try to look at the psychology behind most
anime character's actions.
>>101409137
I know but it makes me sad that there are only a few people able to have a brain.
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>>101409472
Have you read the LN? You better have.
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>>101409422
Because she isn't a stupid bitch for no reason who gets shipped with the MC for no reason and actually has romantic development, build up, backstory and proper exposition.

Basically the opposite of shit like Bitchzora or that cunt silver.
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>>101409513
>yfw the bitchzora wins
I can't wait for the butthurt. It'll be beautiful.
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>>101409546
>Enjoying shitposting

I bet you're one of the faggots that perpetuated the shitstorms after the Oreimo TV ending went up.
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>>101409472
Hey guy, can you start capitalizing your letters correctly from now on? My OCD can't handle your posts.
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>>101408293
>>101408555
>>101408589
That isn't me!
I haven't finished reading the archived thread yet.
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>>101409065
I don't understand the question.
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>I've been forgetting to sage

Goddammit. Sorry, people.
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i wish it were easier to find out what happens in animes i'll never watch. reading the plot summary it seems like it could be a happy ending but they always do that shit so ambiguously there doesnt even seem to be anything sexual about it
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>>101409856
>Declaring your sage

Isn't this reportable?
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>>101409501
I have been in these threads for over a year and a half
I finished the light novel the day when the 12th vol was posted baka-tsuki.
and has reread it about 100 times.
I am the great dutch guy and gg killer
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>>101409656
Sorry, but read from the post I linked though, but I think there is more discussion in that thread too. Here's some more if you want some. Varying degrees of discussion but all of them have constructive Oreimo contributors who post with logic and legitimate discussion. This isn't even all the threads I have bookmarked but some aren't oreimo so I don't want to sort through them.

https://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/101058135/#101116597

https://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/98932709/

https://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/100903018/#100913287
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>>101409893
In the anime, loosely implied incest fucking.

In the light novel, incredibly blatant implications of incest fucking.

Truly, this must be the greatest love story ever told.
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>>101409893

See:

>>101405729
>>101405862

For a good summary of the important stuff that happens in Oreimo.
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>>101409916
>I am the great dutch guy and gg killer
let me rephrase that i am the killer of dutch guy and gg.
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>>101409898
I was declaring the fact that I wasn't saging.

It's the opposite.
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>>101408730
Pardon?
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>>101409916
Thank's dude for your hard work. I hated those basterds
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>>101410104
Just read the thread. There's been a lot of things posted that will help you and other people understand what Oreimo is about.
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>>101408293
Okay. Finished the thread. Not convinced.
>>101409943
Maybe these will be better.
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>>101409916
I wish you would drop the name, but I've been posting and contributing as much as I can in every oreimo thread I see since a couple months ago. Since I finished the LN I've realized how misunderstood the series is and trying to point out the things that make it great.

It's really all the fault of the anime adaptation being bad though.
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>>101410161
I read the thread.

That post was just strange.
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>>101410232
>Not convinced.

What are you even trying to be convinced of anyways? I'm just showing you that there is plenty of constructive discussion and posting in Oreimo threads exactly like >>101406578
says. I don't care if you don't believe me, but I thought I'd humor you and provide the relevant proof anyways. It's there, take it or leave it.
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>>101410154
>wanting innocent posters to be killed
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>>101410290
You're strange
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>>101410327
Hey, I'm reading! I'm reading!

I'm trying to be open-minded, here.
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>>101410356
Why are you so polite when you shitpost?

This has been bothering me for a while now.
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>>101410384
Now, that was just uncalled for.
>>101410452
What do you mean? This is just how I've always posted. Am I doing something wrong?
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why do they love each other?
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The problem isn't that it is a horrible story or it has incest.

The problem is that the mere fact it ends in incest has hordes of fags running around screaming "OMG greatest love story ever told!!" "best anime everzz!!" "I LIEK PICKLES RON PAUL 2012!!!!!!!!" and they drown out the more normal fans.

It is an average story at best and without the incest no one would care about it this much.
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>>101410805
Are you trying to imply that Ron Paul NOT 2012?
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>>101410698
see
>>101405729
>>101405862
>>101406056
>>101406191
>>101406347
>>101406706
>>101406944
>>101407028
>>101407219
>>101407284
>>101407486
>>101408119
>>101408406
>>101408523
>>101408984
>>101409439

The entire series, no, their entire lives, is an ongoing back and forth process of the siblings helping and supporting each other. It's called development.

>>101410805
You obviously neglected to read the thread full of people pointing out why it's a good love story.
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>>101410920
To be fair to anon...

Would you care this much if there wasn't incest?
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>>101410805
If it wasn't a great anime, you fag wouldn't have come here to complain about it. Please name me an anime. That had this most attention for a very long time?

This is the greatest love story ever told and you know it fag.
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>>101410805
I fully agree that if this weren't incest I wouldn't care as much. Or to put it an other way, if Lamune, for example, had been an incest story I'm sure I'd rank it much higher.
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>>101411058
Toradora.

This is an answer to both halves of your post.
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>>101410978
>Would you care this much if there wasn't incest?
I'm not him, but having a romance series where everything is so properly developed, foreshadowed and not a string asspull events to ship the main girl with the MC (someone already mentioned Haganai and Oreshura) is a treat. We don't get those often and even if they weren't siblings I would appreciate a well done romance.
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>>101410978
You mean if they weren't really related? I still would.
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>>101410805
And get the fuck out with that Rika pic. That anime is the most stupid anime ever created. I don't know why people like that shitty anime.
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You know, Toradora didn't need to use incest to make it the GLSET.
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>>101410978
I can honestly say yes. I don't like it for the incest, I like it because of the way the siblings interact and grow alongside each other. I just think it

But the thing is the fact that Kirino and Kyousuke are siblings is central to the entire conflict that drives the story. If you read the posts I linked you'd understand more.
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>>101411058
>If it wasn't a great anime, you fag wouldn't have come here to complain about it
By that logic Coppelion is the best anime of 2012
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>>101411176
Toradora GLSET? are you retarded?

Please get the fuck out anon. Taiga can't compare with kirino. Toradora is for elementary schoolers.
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>>101411206
>I just think it

Fuck me I forgot to get rid of that, my bad.
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>>101411058
>Please name me an anime. That had this most attention for a very long time
Yuyushiki, K-On, SnK, KLK.

You know what these show's threads have in common? They are all 50% people-who-think-the-show-is-the-second-coming-of-Jesus and 50% people-who-think-it-is-the-worst-shit-ever-made. Margin of error of +-3%
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>>101411058
>If it wasn't a great anime, you fag wouldn't have come here to complain about it.
KnK confirmed best anime ever made
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>>101411375
To be fair K-On! fans have never claimed that it was the best show ever.
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>>101411213
What the fuck is coppelion? You know even if you say the name, a bunch of anons would say: What's that?

You wouldn't get that reaction for Oreimo.
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>>101411273
Have you seen /a/? This board loves Toradora.

It even got a fancy 4chan banner. Granted, so did this.
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>>101411473
They don't have to because it should be obvious
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>>101411375
There are plenty of people ITT who are praising it with logical arguments instead of spewing "GLSET".
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>>101411522
>correction

You wouldn't get that kind of reactions if you talk about Oreimo
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>>101411375
Truth!
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>>101411544
117 of the posts in this thread are either directly discussing incest or replying to someone who is with an opinion on incest.

If you remove the incest you remove 70% of the fans and 98% of the trolls
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>>101411428
Come back saying that again, after 1 year has past. Whole fucking /a/ woudn't talk anymore about that shitty anime.

until now, people are still talking about Oreimo, even after 6 months. So fuck off please.
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>>101411680
Define incest, because I don't think you're using that word right.
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>>101411543
HNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG

Saved
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>>101411697
>we never talk about things that aren't coming out this season, Oreimo is special
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>>101411697
>6 months
>a long time
What are you, 5?
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>>101395578
Go read the new story of Tsukasa Fushimi kirinobros. It's really great. Believe me, he did it again.

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Ero_Manga_Sensei
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I don't really get some of the higher-than-thou denial going on. Are you people seriously going to say a lot of of us don't just like this show because of the incest?
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>>101411697
6 years and counting you pathetic nigger, go play in your sandbox
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I'm still trying to understand why people defend kirino for her actions? i do know the "Backstory" although kyouske didn't really do anything aside from grow up, how DARE he grow up and his personality and interests change. i fucking hate myself for actually sitting though this shitfest
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>>101411943
I like it and not (only) because of incest. The thing I like about Oreimo the most is the dialogues between characters.
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>>101411890
I'm still on a high from finishing Ore No Imouto and plan to reread it later after NanoDesu finishes their translation, if they do.

>>101411943
This series has fans of all kinds, and lots and lots of haters.

There are plenty of people who like it because of the incest, which is fine. But to say nobody would like it if it wasn't incest is ridiculous.

Just like there are plenty of people who hate it because of the incest. But there are still also those that hate it for legitimate reasons. There's on Anon who doesn't like to watch it because his little sister died at one point in his life. I've met another who loves the series because Kirino and Kyousuke's interactions reminded him of his own family's behavior and tried to be a better brother because of the show.

So really, it's just nonsensical to try and categorize fans of Oreimo. This is true for most things though.
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>>101411992
yes, 6 years indeed. For me I discovered it in 2010 after watching the anime. And after reading the novel. It became my favourite story.
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>>101412104
It's obvious you either didn't actually read it or you did and you just don't understand it, either way you're a retard. It's been explained several times in this thread. I won't bother saying what's already been said if you won't listen to it and provide actual counterarguments like the people defending Kirino's actions are.
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Is this what I think it is?
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I like the oreo mostly because of Kirino and Kyousuke. The incest just happens to be a part of it.
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>>101412327
>"they are soulmates!"
>"incest is the purest form of love!"
>"imouto is best love!"
-are not "actual counterarguments"
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>>101412115
I agree. Oreimo has really entertaining characters that have stuck with me for a while now. They are relevant in their own way as well, none of them really serve as simple comedic relief or entertainment without any other actual purpose. You seriously can't name one that doesn't at least do something to help the story along.
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>>101412373
I like Hitler for his moustache, the genocidal psychopath just happens to be a part of it
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>>101412208
>I'm still on a high from finishing Ore No Imouto

Same feelings here, it's hard to let go of Oreimo.......
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>>101412445
Nice, you made it even more obvious that you're ignorant and didn't bother to read the thread. Thank you for saving me time responding to you.
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>>101412208
>I'm still on a high from finishing Ore No Imouto
Well that explains it, I thought you were a retard but it turns out you just have shit taste. Sorry about that
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>>101412591
Sorry for the misconception.
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>>101412500
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OreImo is what you get when you let otaku ruin pop culture with their diseased ideas of how relationships SHOULD go, as opposed to how they are in reality.

Bring back anime where characters talk issues through, learn to grow the fuck up, and have real relationships.
Is your otaku readership annoyed that girl X has kissed a boy? FUCK 'EM, they're not worth your money.
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>>101401415
>>Plato's The Republic
That fucking piece of shit?
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>>101412924
b-b-but muh kuroneko
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>>101412924
Epic post mate

10/10 would spread everywhere
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>>101412924
Do you know what really is retarded:

- Sakura Trick
- Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai
- Other shitty anime this season

If you think this is the kind of anime we need nowadays then there is another retarded one, it's:

- YOU!
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>>101404475
>Why do you think there are people who like Kirino in the first place?
Because they're omegas who love her being a cunt and want to be abused by women.
They're the same pussies who like Louise.
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>>101412924
>Bring back anime where characters talk issues through, learn to grow the fuck up, and have real relationships.

That's funny because Oreimo is literally what you just described and you'd know that if you gave it a chance.
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>>101413261
>Even comparing the two
>Implying you're read the LNs to know Kirinos actual personality
Nah.
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>>101412924
Just give me an example anon? if you say we need Sakura trick kind of story. Then seriously fuck you.
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>>101413326
I have.
Just because she has reasons to act like she does does not mean I need to like her.
Fuck off with your shitty excuses.
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>>101413261
>Omegas
Oh you.
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>>101412534
But you did respond to him.
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>>101413261
>Omegas

AHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

Also, Louise a qt
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>>101412924

needs obligatory pic of Miyazaki and Yamamoto
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>>101413359
No you haven't, because her actions in the novels are more to internalize her own strife or to genuinely look out for Kyousuke and her friends.

You're saying
>She's always a bitch and her reasons are bad
That's how I know you didn't read them.
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>>101413407
Louise is a nice lady.

Do you like Louise?
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>>101413442
>>She's always a bitch and her reasons are bad
But I didn't say that. You just said it and claimed I said that.
Is this how Kirinofags argue?
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>>101412532
just finished the anime, god damn that made me feel somethin i've never felt before
Idk what it is though anon
But I don't want to stop feelin it[/spoiler[
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>>101412924
>learn to grow the fuck up
>talk issues through
>have real relationships

Oh man, the ignorance of Oreimo haters is something to be amazed by. The LN has an entire volume to exactly that, and it happens all the time in other places in the series as well, even in the anime.
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>>101413359
So you're just here to hate her then?

We're giving you reason as to why her attitude is the way it is.

But if you can't understand that her attitude towards Kyousuke was actually her own suffering.
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>>101413507
You'll soon find that, yes, this is how fans of Kirino argue.
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>>101413489
I Love her.

I love her so much, it's unhealthy.
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>>101413519
Make sure you read the both FAQ sections in the pastebin. And also give the LNs a read if you want more. Every character gets more time, there's more humor, the plot is much better developed, and I guarantee you will cry at least three times.
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>>101413586
You know the author died?
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>>101413586
Good man, good man.

She's a pretty great tiny tsundere.
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>>101413261
you like mixing water and oil do you?
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>>101413631
Yeah, I was angry when I heard.

But I guess all good things come to an end.

>>101413642
She sure is man.
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>>101413631
God damn it all...

Well, dead authors and mangaka. That's what this thread needed.
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>>101413530
>We're giving you reason as to why her attitude is the way it is.
refer to
>Just because she has reasons to act like she does does not mean I need to like her.
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>>101413507
>But I didn't say that.
Ok then, please imply what you meant with
>Just because she has reasons to act like she does
When it's obivous what you're saying, don't feed people bullshit like "Well even though that's what I was saying, I didn't explicitly say it so it doesn't count."
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>>101413615
Forgot to link it for you

http://pastebin.com/VixaBZ8F

Happy trails Anon, and welcome.
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>>101413615
Thanks anon, I'll give it a look and see how it is.
I still don;t understand why there are so many people who hate Kirino, but I guess people will hate anything to be edgy
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>>101413730
And we understand that you just want to hate her for whatever the reason. You don't care for the story and you don't care for her at all. You're just here to shitpost.
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>>101413721
Fucking hell...
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>>101413761
Yeah, I don't understand why people don't like what I like either.
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>>101413761
Don't worry, there is lots more emotion and logic behind it in the LNs. Everything she does has an internal reason. You'll see her hate Kyousuke and him hate her. You'll see them fight, yell, and abuse each other. And you'll see them grow closer and closer because of their love and support.

The people posting right now are arguing that, because it's evident in the material that haters neglect and refuse to look into.
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>>101413838
Remember, folks!

Disliking Kirino and shitposting are the same thing!
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>>101413732
You're just making up a whole conversation in your head here.
She has reasons for acting how she does. You're just taking that and creating your own twisted interpretation of it because god forbid someone doesn't like Kirino.
She has reasons for acting how she does throughout the story, some arguably bad, most pretty reasonable. But I don't need to like her just because she had her reasons.
That's it. That's all there is to it.
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>>101413956
Remember, folks!

Making it clear you haven't read something by not being able to actually discuss the content and making grand sweeping statements in line with shitposters is indeed shitposting!
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>>101414060
>this is what non-kirinobros beleive
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>>101413956
You can dislike Kirino, but all you're doing is just hating her and calling her shit.

You're not looking into what we're trying to tell you. You're just hating Kirino and we're giving you reasons as to why we like her. You're ignoring everything and you're just brushing everything off.

That's shitposting.
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>>101395578
fucking suberbowl!!!!
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>>101414182
I'm not him.
I was just butting in.
>>101414186
FOOTBALL!
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>>101413956
>>101414060
The interesting thing about the oreo is that every girl is a bitch if you overlook their reasons for doing things. Yet I see little complaints about them.
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>>101414060
>You're just making up a whole conversation in your head here.
No, I interpreted what you said based on your own words and now you're claiming "That isn't what I implied". You clearly don't like her character or care to get to know it. You're claiming you know how she acts and thinks when in reality it's clear you don't. Why do you insist on talking like you know anything about the series?
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>>101413956
No, coming into a thread with no other purpose than to hate a character irrationally is the same as shitposting. We're done here.

>>101414060
That's fine. I don't care if you like Kirino. To each their own, you can think whatever you want and it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is that you don't want to listen to people's logical arguments against what you think and have no purpose to be in the discussion other than to shitpost. There are animes I choose to hate and they get discussed on /a/ all the time. But what I don't do is go into the threads just to express my discontent, because that is shitposting.
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>>101414271
Ayase's the only other one who physically abuses Kyousuke.
And there's nothing bitchy about Saori.
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>>101414304
So what you're saying is that if someone has an opinion that's different to yours, it's irrelevant shitposting?

>>101414300
So we're back to "no you don't know anything about her because if you did it would be impossible to not like her". Great.
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>>101414271
Indeed. All the girls in the series are mean at one point or another. All of them have reasons for it. Some are good reasons, some aren't. Willful ignorance is the primary enemy of Oreimo discussion.

>>101414300
I'm not that guy, but I think we should stop now. He's clearly shitposting and trying to make it seem like you're misinterpreting him.

He's basically saying

>It doesn't matter if there are logical arguments against what I think, because I can think whatever I want even if it's irrational and I have no reason for it
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>>101414330
Kirino, Ayase, Kuroneko, and even Saori physically abuse him.

>And there's nothing bitchy about Saori.
I like how you can tell when someone doesn't read the LN. She specifically mentions some flaws of hers and that she has a thirst for revenge and even acts upon it in one of the chapters.
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>>101414417
Great reading comprehension. Yeah, we're definitely done talking about this.

Can we stop replying to this guy now? Post Kirino.
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>>101414463
>She specifically mentions some flaws of hers and that she has a thirst for revenge and even acts upon it in one of the chapters.
Wow, what an irredeemable cunt.
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>>101414417
>So what you're saying is that if someone has an opinion that's different to yours, it's irrelevant shitposting?

No the part where you don't want to listen to people's logical arguments against what you think.

You're not here to contribute, you're just here to hate.

That's shitposting, can't you understand something this simple?
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>>101414543
>You're not here to contribute, you're just here to hate.
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>>101414521
>Wow, what an irredeemable cunt.
That's my point. If you remove reasons from actions then actions are simply black and white and most of the time fall under a "black" perspective. This goes for every single character in Oreimo.

But no, none of them are truly bad when you consider their reasons and state of mind.
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>>101414304
>We're done here

I'm not even part of this conversation. This is just obligatory.
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>>101414515
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>>101414515
I agree, here we go.
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It's time.
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>>101414515
I'll be lurking for now, I might post Kirino a bit later.
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>>101414515
Okay
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>>101414515
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>>101414417
>no you don't know anything about her because if you did it would be impossible to not like her
No, it's still that you aren't actually discussing anything that happened in the novels with any level of detail that would make us think you've actually read them. It's the same as it's always been.

>>101414436
You're right, my fault for encouraging him.
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It's been around 7 months, don't you get tired of talking about this?
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>>101414771
So we can all agree that Kirinohaters are all manchildren who can't accept that Kirino won, right?

They're hopeless.
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Remember when volume 11 wasn't canon? Me neither.
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>>101413956
This is more or less how it always goes. The people who like Kirino are so utterly closed to the idea of anyone possibly not liking her no matter what that anyone who claims to not like Kirino must be some bandwagoning troll who has never read the novels, because it's utterly inconceivable that you can understand a character and not also like them.

I mean, we all like Suzaku, right?
And Akane?
And let's not forget Shoko. It was perfectly explained why she betrayed Haruto. We can't possibly dislike her when we consider her circumstances.
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>>101414902
I agree!!!
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>>101414918
But how much did the ending hurt you?
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>>101414172
Remember, folks!

Using a fan-translation of a visual/light novel you know very few others have bothered to read for canon gives you the right to ignore all the problems of an anime adaptation!
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>>101414918
No one's suggesting it's impossible to dislike a character, just that your ignorance bleeds from your posts and you make no attempt to address it.

>>101415023
Never will you find anyone defending the anime adaptation. Is this really what you're falling back to?
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>>101414463
Not that guy, but I've read the LN and I don't remember Kuroneko or Saori being physically violent with Kyousuke. I agree with you about Saori though, she has her own set of flaws but is a good enough person to try and get past them by turning into her Bajeena persona and playing the support role for her friends.

>>101414595
You're right. None of them are 'truly bad' and they all have good reasons for their actions. Every romance character is genuinely manipulative and inconsiderate at one point or another. Kanako, Ayase, Kuroneko, and Manami all try and tear the siblings apart by trying them to get rid of their love, primarily because they want Kyousuke for themselves.

Kirino as well, but it's not so much manipulation as it is hate that's rooted in her emotions that she can't get past. She idealizes Kyousuke unfairly and misunderstands the kind of person he really is, and isn't willing to accept it. But unlike the other girls, she supports him consistently throughout the series, and she apologizes and comes to love Super Kyousuke, both sides of him.
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>>101414902
No, we can't all agree on that.

It was obvious from the outset that the only options were 'incest end' and 'no romance, but a repaired family'. It just happened to be the former.

I still don't like her.
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Remember, folks!

Incest is weird
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>>101414918
>inconceivable that you can understand a character and not also like them.
It's not that you hate that they dislike, it's the arguments you use that bother them. Because when they address them, you dismiss it as denial on their part.
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>>101415087
Kuroneko and Saori hit him multiple times. The girl that hits him the most is Ayase and after that it's Kirino but it still doesn't change the fact that they do.
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>>101415023
>gives you the right to ignore all the problems of an anime adaptation!
Except no one ever said the anime wasn't full of issues. In fact it's been started countless times that if you didn't read the LNs you aren't getting the real story.

Also,
>Admitting you haven't read it but still shitpost
Excellent.

Also part 2,
>日本語が読めない
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>>101415017
It didn't. We all saw it coming from the very beginning, and the people who didn't must have by the time America happened.
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>>101415099
That's great anon, you can let this series go now.

You don't like it, so there should be no reason for you to be here other than to hate. Why go to threads of a series you hate when you could just go to threads you enjoy instead?
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>>101414918
Shoko is a shit, get the fuck out, SHOKO FAG!!!.

I'm an kirinobro for your information
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>>101415311
Well, sometimes these threads can turn into Taiga or Louise threads, which are nice.
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I don't know anyone could like the anime that much. It was a shit adaptation.
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>>101415465
I wouldn't want to spam Louise on a Kirino thread though, it wouldn't be fair to the Kirinobros.
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>>101415511
*how anyone
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>>101415099
>but a repaired family

Oh the ironing. You're completely wrong. The Cold War was a result of Manami turning them into regular siblings, Kirino sinking her life into track and repressing her love and Kyousuke trying to be "normal" for Manami. Kirino is basically suffering the entire time, and their relationship devolves into what you see in the first few volumes.


>Kirino moves to America to try and forget about her brother
>Kyousuke can't stand being without her
>Kirino isn't herself without him
>Kyousuke inspires her to beat Ria, then brings her back

>Kirino plans to move to Europe for modeling work
>Wants to confess her love before she leaves so that she can get over him
>Kyousuke stops her

The entire point of the series is that they can't go back to being regular siblings again, each time they have tried it results in both of them being miserable. With life counseling, they become an extremely not normal pair of siblings, yet are happier than they have ever been. Kyousuke says this a lot in the LNs, that he's been changed for the better by his sister and that he wouldn't take any of it back because of the friends he's made and the growth he's had in his relationship with her. Pic related.

Anyways, this probably doesn't matter to you anyways, but I figured I'd post this for my own sake. I enjoy getting my feelings out there.
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>>101415087
>Kanako, Ayase, Kuroneko, and Manami all try and tear the siblings apart by trying them to get rid of their love, primarily because they want Kyousuke for themselves.
But Kuroneko did the exact opposite.
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Wait a minute...

THIS was the thread that was supposed to convince me that Kirino fans are nice?
https://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/98932709/
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>>101415511
Some scenes were animated nicely. This scene for example. I had no reaction when I read it but listening to her scream was something else entirely.
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>>101415665
Not in the LNs
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>>101415311
>You don't like it, so there should be no reason for you to be here other than to hate. Why go to threads of a series you hate when you could just go to threads you enjoy instead?
>>101414585
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>>101415511
There are a lot of people that have only watched the anime and don't know what they're missing. Thankfully, with every one of these threads we have, more and more people are convinced to read the source material or at least read up on the differences.
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>>101415665
No, Kuroneko actually tried even when knowing that they loved each other. It was very similar to Ayase.
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From the OUTSET. As in, when the series began, it was obvious that the story would be about the progression of their relationship. Before watching, before reading.
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>>101415717
You're the cancer that's killing this board
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>>101415812
I'm just sayin'.
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>>101415812
He's just on my side! Don't say mean things to my friend!


Are we friends, other anon?
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>>101415812
>It's ok to shitpost and yell about things you don't like and you don't know anything about!

Yeah it's pretty fucking bad these days. I don't understand the need to go argue about shows you haven't watched or books you haven't read.
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>>101415638

>pic

I love how Kirino's head pops up after he first starts talking about her.
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>>101415812
>>101415909
I think you should probably go back to MAL.
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>>101415909
But anon, it's cool to be a spiteful edgy faggot.
Don't you want to fit in?
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kirino haters fucking recked
late to the thread but nice to see how well defended she was
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All I can say is: Once you have seen pantsu, they are no longer pantsu
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>>101416053
Kirino lovers confirmed to not have command of basic English grammar or punctuation.
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>>101415665
Yes, it's because of kuroneko dating kyousuke that Kirino could tell her true feelings. And after that Kyousuke realised he fucking loves kirino.

Kuroneko knew what she was doing. And most retards still don't get it why she dated him at that time.

Yes, we kirinobros need to thank Kuroneko. Because of her (help) this two siblings ended up together.
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>>101416053
How do you mean?

And it's spelled 'rekt'.
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>>101415692
>that Kirino fans are nice

I'm that guy, still here. I never said Kirino fans are nice. I said they have constructive discussion of the series.

>>101415665
Read the Volume 12 prologue, and the Volume 11 epilogue. That's what I was referring to.

Ayase and Kuroneko basically say "Confess to him soon so you can get your feelings out, or else we will first, and steal him from you." They aren't willing to consider her feelings or wait until she does what she needs to, as she plans to confess right after graduation.

You can argue what their intentions were or if they were being truly manipulative or not, but the fact remains they wanted to turn them into normal siblings because they believed they could win Kyousuke over. They were delusional and not willing to understand their love which led to them thinking they could hold a candle to Kirino's undying love for her brother.

As for Kuroneko in Volume 8, I would agree with you if not for her confrontation.

>Now that you know your sister's feelings, will you still choose me?

Kuroneko is the most deluded. Her motivation for that entire arc is that she wants to achieve her 'Ideal World', where she can be best friends with Kirino and lovers with Kyousuke. Ayase is similar in this way too, but of course without the Chuunibyou theme.

>I thought if I married Onii-san, I could be Kirino's sister for life.

Manami was also deluded in the sense that she thought she could have Kyousuke as a husband without Kirino whatsoever.
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>>101416032
>this is what kirinohaters actually beleive
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>>101416139
my fucking sides wrekd fagets trying to find anything to save face
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>>101415994
>/a/ is about shitposting and arguing about things you don't understand!
I think you should go back to /v/.

>>101416032
>But anon, it's cool to be a spiteful edgy faggot.
Oh shit, I forgot about that.
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>>101416219
And THAT thread is exemplary of the fact?
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>>101416250
It's 'believe', Mr. Anon.

Try again.
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>>101415717
>>101415994
I think you need to go back to /b/ with you "4chan hatemachine XD" antics. Or lurk more, whichever.
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>>101416396
>this is what kirinohaters actually believe
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>>101416506
>I've been here for three whole months!
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>>101416219
So a girl trying to get into a relationship with a boy before his incestuous little sister does is a bad thing now?
I'm talking about Kuroneko here, not Manami.
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>>101416604
It is if the two girls are friends.

Or worse, best friends.
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One day, there will be no Kirino threads, no Manami a shit jokes, no incest-baiting, and no blind defense of Oreimo.

One day.
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>>101416219
That we are siblings part? I don't fucking believe it. Especially when the author used it again at the ending: Kyousuke kissed Kirino (after the ring part) and he said, but we are siblings to the reaction of her?

This are a strange pair of siblings.........
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What if, instead of talking about OreImo on 4chan...

You just go out and fuck your sister?
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>>101416697
We're talking about incest here, you redneck!
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>>101416853
Plothole!
>>101416884
Even Shizune and Misha are against this thread's antics.

Apologize to Shizune and Misha.
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>>101416604
It's really not even that, you may as well take the sister part out of it. They're just rivals in love giving Kirino her chance because they're sick of waiting for her. It was more than fair of them to even give her that much before talking to Kyousuke themselves.
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>>101416955
eye cancer!

beware! eye cancerrrrrr
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>>101416178
>Because of her (help) this two siblings ended up together.

Sure she helped, but she didn't intend to. Howabout you read the fucking source material, it's even in the anime.

>Will you still choose me?

All of her actions are trying to achieve a perfect world for herself and for her friends. She has good intentions, but she acts badly on them. She intentionally hurts Kyousuke, and hurts Kirino more (She basically asked Kirino when it's okay to have sex with him). The core idea of her ideal world is that she wants to be Kyousuke's girlfriend. She thinks she can achieve this while keeping Kirino happy, which is why she is forthcoming with her feelings and asks her permission before she confesses to him.

Look at the contrast. Kirino is willing to let Kyousuke date someone else even if it hurts her. She even supports their relationship and encourages them.

On the contrary, Kuroneko isn't willing to accept the fact that Kyousuke doesn't love her. When she realizes that she has lost to Kirino in the competition that she started, it blows a hole in her plans and she isn't willing to deal with it, stopping him from giving his answer. Kirino sacrificed her own happiness for Kyousuke's, while Kuroneko continuously pursues him while knowing that the siblings are in love, all until she is directly rejected. Kuroneko won't admit the fact that she doesn't belong with Kyousuke while Kirino is prepared to be rejected when she plans to confess to her brother.
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>>101416976
If Kirino would be a cousin or even less related, ok, then I understand.
But letting siblings have a shot at the incest route?!
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>>101417184
I actually don't care much for incest, I wouldn't even mind it in my chinese cartoons.

But why do people find it disgusting? It's not about you or your siblings, so why? Are you some kind of self inserting faggot?
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>>101417184
>title of manga (pic related) KISS MY ASS!
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>>101417112
Also compare rejections.

>Kirino is rejected by Kyousuke when he chooses to date Kuroneko
>Kirino sucks it up, accepts it, and encourages them for the sake of his own happiness

>Kuroneko is rejected by Kyousuke when he tells her he loves Kirino
>Kuroneko cries bitch tears and vows revenge by placing a curse on him

This is just more evidence that Kirino is the only one that truly ever supports him and wants him to be happy. The other girls are just obsessed with winning him over by forcing their feelings on him with no consideration for Kyouske's feelings or the fallout it will cause with Kirino.

>>101416766
Congratulations, mate. You are starting to understand Oreimo.
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>>101417184
Normalfag please go.
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>>101417320
Misconceptions about the health consequences for incest babies and ingrained moral conditioning that leaves people unable to think for themselves or on a personal basis.
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>>101417184
There are stories where people get anally fisted by their mothers but it doesn't upset me.

It's fiction. Who gives a shit? Quit crying.
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>>101417333
Are you feeling alright?
>>101417397
You are on the Japanese cartoon section of 4chan, and your conversational partner has been at this for hours, as have you.

The normalfags are gone.
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>>101417112
>Kirino is willing to let Kyousuke date someone else even if it hurts her. She even supports their relationship and encourages them.
Hardly. She acted like a vindictive little shit throughout and was especially bad during the short arc where they tested each others' feelings about dating other people.
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>>101417379
Why are they so perfect?
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>>101417420
Pedophilia has even fewer health consequences.
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>>101417356
>true meaning epilogue, pic related:

But, we are just normal siblings?
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>>101417356
Yes this explanation of the confessions is pretty spot on. Kirino always sucked things up and gritted her teeth.

The others, not so much.
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>>101417577
Except that both parties aren't mature, informed and able to consent.
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>>101417815
It doesn't mean that she was a nice person.

And she didn't even do that all the time.
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>>101417884
>normalfags on /a/

What happened?
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>>101417959
What does it have to do with normalfaggotry. He didn't say that we should crucify all pedophiles. He said children are immature.
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>>101417959
Because today: super bowl.

/a/ is dead..........
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>Best girl will never win
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>>101417906
>And she didn't even do that all the time.
Didn't she?
She always had to be pressed for her to show how she felt.
For the Ayase thing, dad thing, her novel being stolen, America, Kuroneko dating, etc, she always gritted her teeth and left it until Kyousuke intervened to help.
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>>101417505
>She acted like a vindictive little shit throughout

Except she doesn't. Where are you getting this from? I seriously think you didn't even watch or read it if you think that. She was completely supportive and didn't interfere with their relationship at all until Kyousuke got hurt. Kuroneko even came to her with a guide on romance and tried to get her advice on when she does what with Kyousuke, kissing, touching, holding hands, saying "I love you", etc.

The only time she acted harshly was when she tried to incite jealousy in Kyousuke by pretending to date Mikagami, but do you know why she did that? I'll let you explain it to me. And additionally I never mentioned that part of the arc to begin with, so your insinuating that I thought she was in the right, when I never mentioned that part to begin with. I never said Kirino is a perfect snowflake that can do no wrong. She wrongs Kyousuke plenty of times, and he wrongs her. All I'm saying is that they both support each other when it matters.
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>>101417959
>Normalfag
You implied 2D loli and 3D pedophilia are the same thing.

Not even close, normalfag.
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>>101417356
Those situations aren't really comparable. When Kyousuke chose to date Kuroneko things were STILL fairly rocky between him and Kirino. They'd gotten closer but there was nothing romantic between them at all. Kirino begrudgingly accepts the relationship and then we go on to see how it destroys her relationship with Kuroneko, which is why half of why Kuroneko then ended things.
On the other hand, Kuroneko sacrificed her relationship with Kyousuke for her friendship with Kirino and Kyousuke's relationship with his sister, and then finally wants to get an answer again. After having dated her and led her on for so long, Kyousuke then turns around and rejects her, leaving Kuroneko alone, and he does a pretty fucking shitty job in that scene of being decent about it.
It was far more emotional for her, and she had more to deal with in that single discussion than Kirino's attitude when Kyousuke chose to date Kuroneko. She was fully within her rights to hate Kyousuke at that moment.

You just can't take separate events with entirely different circumstances from different characters and simplify and compare it like that. It doesn't work.
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>>101418171
I was going to reply but, this. She never forces her feelings on Kyousuke or asked Kyousuke to magically swoop her up and save the day, that as all Kyousuke's doing, and it's why she fell in love with him in the first place.

I bet you are replying to an anime viewer. Volume 3 is so HUGELY butchered.

>Anime: Kirino acts like a stubborn entitled bitch after she is rejected by the company

>LN: Kirino works hard nonstop and gets her novel finished, so much that she gets sick from fatigue because she refused to give up modeling, track, and school at the same time
>All her work was for nothing, her novel gets stolen
>She says whatever, that it's okay and she will just write a new one
>Kyousuke steps in and gets it back for her
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>>101418177
Vindictive was very much the wrong choice of word there. That was my bad.
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>>101415158
your mom is weir too, and we fuck her every day
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>>101417884
>both parties
I don't think we consider it paedophilia when both parties are of similar age.
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>>101418374
You can't really compare Kirino's 4 year old suppressed love to Kuroneko's ~year long crush either.
You're saying Kirino losing Kyousuke to Kuroneko was less emotional to her than Kuroneko being rejected?
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>>101418613
I'm saying Kyousuke did not date Kirino and lead her on for months about his feelings for her before then turning around and saying "actually, I love Kuroneko".
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>>101418527
Well that's not the message that person gave. They made it sound like actual 3D pedophilia.
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>>101418374
>and then finally wants to get an answer again. After having dated her and led her on for so long, Kyousuke then turns around and rejects her, leaving Kuroneko alone, and he does a pretty fucking shitty job in that scene of being decent about it.

But that's bullshit. Kuroneko postpones the answer and knows that they're in love with each other. She crashes and burns after all her stupid books get fucked by Kyousuke. Kyousuke wasn't so much of an asshole either.
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>>101395578
You're a newshit and you should get the fuck out. Your opinion is not wanted, nor needed. /a/ has had this discussion many, many, many times since the show was over. Now please get out, newshit.
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>>101418766
What's bullshit about it? Kuroneko's suspicions don't change the events that happened.
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>>101418699
>Lead her on for months
Was the indecisiveness and awkwardness not a clue to you? Kyousuke had feelings for Kirino while he dated Kuroneko and Kuroneko knew it. One of the reasons Kuroneko dumped him was so he and Kirino could address those feelings.

It wasn't "actually, I love Kirino" to Kuroneko, it was Kyousuke confirming what Kuroneko had already suspected. She wasn't blindsided by it.
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Oreimo is literally the worst anime ever. Anyone who says it's good is either a faggot who wish he had a little sister to bang or is just autistic. or both
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>>101395578
Nice blog mate, go back to MAL and spread your shit there
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>>101418878
And if anything that made his indecisiveness even worse.
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>>101418374
I disagree.

>there was nothing romantic between them at all.
Completely wrong.

>After having dated her and led her on
>led her on
No, wrong. Kyousuke tries to give her an answer many times, but Kuroneko refuses to deal with the truth. He does not lead her on at all. She didn't want to accept it the first time, and when she's ready, she takes it hard. It's understandable. She loves him. But he was not leading her on.

>It was far more emotional for her
This the biggest heap of bullshit I have ever heard.

Do you know why Kuroneko fell in love with Kyousuke? She says it herself. Because in a period of three months, Kyousuke was very nice to her, hung out with her, helped her make friends, and was compassionate towards her. Ironically, he was doing this partly (but not entirely mind you) because he was using her as a replacement for his little sister.

Do you know why Kirino fell in love with Kyousuke? Because over a period of ten years, Kyousuke loved her, inspired her, supported her, and played with her. Only during the Cold War did this truly change, which happened because of Manami and Sakurai. She pushes her love down, covers it with resentment for him, and tries to forget. But when her old Onii-chan starts to come back and help her once again, she lets her love slip out, and starts to love the new Kyousuke as well as the old one.

Kuroneko's shallow crush does not compare to Kirino's 10+ years of undying affection for her brother.
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>thread conclusion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6-CsUP9WsU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxNMpnoBdjk
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>>101418458
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>>101418890
>Oreimo is literally the worst anime ever.
You can't have an opinions on /a/ if you've only watched 30 anime.
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>>101418983
By it being more emotional I was referring to the events of the conversations and circumstances under which they occurred, not trying to make any kind of statement about who loved who more.
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>>101418890
Great analysis anon!

You sure know your stuff!
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>>101418867
Read this >>101418983

Kuroneko fucking knew it from the start and writes the first ending based on that. She deludes herself, just like Ayase into believing she has a chance. In fact, Ayase can be considered worse since Kyousuke did ask her plenty of times to marry him and such.
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Hey, guys.

What do my fellow Kirinobros like doing in their spare time? Any activities?
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>>101418766
>Kyousuke wasn't so much of an asshole either.

This. You guys seriously need to make sure you have the right idea of what actually happened.

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"I, can't go out with you! Because I have someone I love!"
Afterward, I slowly, very slowly conveyed my feelings to her.


"………"

I told her everything, all of my truest feelings.

From the beginning until the end, Ruri didn't avert her eyes. She kept listening until I finished talking.

"…………"

She kept listening to me in silence.

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Kyousuke was open and honest with her. He had no bad intentions and no harsh words. It's just that Kuroneko had been putting off her tears for so long that she couldn't help but be upset.
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>>101419234
I like playing first person shooters.
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>>101419239
I'm the guy you're quoting but what may make him seem like an asshole is that he screams everything out. That's Super Kyousuke though and the only way he would be able to say it.
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>>101419239
>Afterward, I slowly, very slowly conveyed my feelings to her.
Really, this was a shit move on his part. Why would anyone want to hear you gush about how much you love someone else immediately after you reject them?
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Why aren't you guys watching and discussing OniAi?

It's also got older-brother-younger-sister incest, and it has a similar naming structure. It's short for Onii-chan dakedo Ai sae Areba Kankeinai yo ne, thus OniAi. That's like how OreImo is Ore no Imōto ga Konna ni Kawaii Wake ga Nai.

It's all you'd ever wanted. Look, even the covers of the light novels look similar!
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>>101419501
I liked it a lot more.
Deredere > tsundere.
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>>101419501
>it has a similar naming structure
Wow, this bait.
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>>101419323
Well yeah, it's a book, and what's more a translated one, so inflections can vary from reader to reader. I think what made Kyousuke yell that though is he had trouble saying it. He loves Kuroneko, he doesn't want to let her go. But Kirino is more important to him. This was the hardest rejection he had to do. Well, Sakurai could be a contender there.

>>101419424
>Why would anyone want to hear you gush about how much you love someone else immediately after you reject them?

Because they are friends who want to be open with each other. And Kuroneko knew it was coming. She knew he loved his sister but wouldn't accept it.

Really, he's just being clear. He tried to be honest in the past but didn't get through to her.

You have to understand that Kuroneko had been thinking she had a chance from the beginning. Even after he tries to reject her she keeps trying.

Kyousuke loves Kirino. Those are his truest feelings. He has to get them out now, he has to close this door once and for all. His passion for Kirino is what drives him, and he can't get those feelings out unless he ties off this loose end. He does so reluctantly.
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>>101419424
>Really, this was a shit move on his part. Why would anyone want to hear you gush about how much you love someone else immediately after you reject them?
Probably what hurts shippers the most but it was Kyousuke's way burning down the bridge. It's something he had to do.
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>>101419424
Kyouououousuke and Kirikirikiri really deserve each other, I suppose.
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>>101419501
But I don't read Oreimo for the incest.
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>>101419574
For me, it'll always be Tsundere>All Deres

And if you disagree with me, well then that's like your opinion man.
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>>101419583
What? Is there a term that I'm missing?

It's a really long name being abbreviated in a specific way. It's the first half of a word for 'sibling', and another word that's there for grammatical purposes, rather than conveying strict meaning on its own.

OniAi. OreImo.
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>>101419650
>it was Kyousuke's way of burning down the bridge. It's something he had to do.

Yeah, it's quite sad. I don't blame Kuronekofags for being bitter. You can feel his reluctance in the narration, but at the same time, as Super Kyousuke, he's determined to see this through to the end.
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>>101419628
And that's why Kuroneko broke down and cursed him, and why it's not comparable to Kirino getting told that they're going to date.
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A reminder that opinions are bad and you should not have them.
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>>101419851
A reminder that I still don't like Kirino and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>101419851
I laughed.
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>>101419893
I respectfully disagree with your taste in women and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>101419234
I enjoy playing video games, eating while I watch anime, and masturbating.

What about you, Anon?
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>>101419976
Oh, nothing of interest. I just like learning about you guys.
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>>101419501
>>101419774

I did watch OniiAi, but it didn't feel even close.

I mean for how bad Oreimo really was at the core being a shounen harem, it is better than most harems especially involving imouto. Maybe pacing, maybe slightly relatable characters or genuinely funny situational humor.

People always pick on Kirino but honestly it was fun to watch.

OniiAi was barely a step above your average harem and the humor wasn't really that gold, the characters were pretty OE dimensional and such.

Plus the MC doesn't have shit on Kyousuke, because his inner-monologue is pretty enjoyable.
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>>101420020
Shitposter-kun, why are you so tsundere?
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>>101420034
>Oreimo
>harem

My sides.
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>>101419893
I agree.
>>101420054
Gah!

I wasn't even doing anything! It was research!
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>>101420118
Remember how every girl suddenly wants Kyousuke's dick in S2? And it was the same shit in the novels too.
The only difference is that Kyousuke picked one.
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>>101420133
You're really bad at this, aren't you?

But I still love you. I genuinely look forward to seeing you when I go into Oreimo threads. You, the Kurospammer, the dead imouto Anon, the Anon that every time makes the exact same argument as me but says it way better, I love seeing all of you. Even if you don't like Kirino, you guys are my Kirinobros.
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>>101419837
Kuroneko ends up making things worse for herself due to her own selfishness and that is why I don't feel that bad for her.

It's not comparable because Kirino does the opposite.
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>>101420223
>A chapter
>Defining a twelve volume series
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>>101411880
Fuck the generic tsundere ends, this is truly the greatest love story ever told.
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>>101420314
Your welcome.

I do have some fun with this, but clearly nowhere near as much as you do.
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>>101420223
You obviously don't know what you're saying because if you did, you'd understand why the other girls were there and why they are thematically important to the plot and Kirino and Kyousuke's relationship.

Every character, no matter how minor, down to Akagi or even Rock, they all serve their own purpose to move the plot forward and relate it back to the relationship between the siblings. It is always about Kyousuke and Kirino, it always has been, and it continues to be. What's more, it was only a harem for about a chapter, and that chapter serves to show how Kirino is different from the other women. They all represent different facets of Kirino.
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Kirino: Worst female of Oreimo.
Kyuosuke: Worst male of Oreimo.

Manami: Best character of Oreimo. I ♥ her!
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>>101420695
Proof that Kirino is actually Manami.
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>>101420848
Hello, friend.

It probably isn't safe here.

If you're the type that filters posts, then just add 'a shit' to your filter.
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>>101420848
Scat fetishes aren't that common anymore, but I'm glad to see people are still honest about it.
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>>101409966
Fuck off incestfag. My Kirino doesn't do that with her brother because she doesn't even love him like that. You don't even understand the story, I bet. It's about siblings getting closer and a new otaku tragically falling for his perfect sister because he's retarded and mixes 2d and 3d.
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>>101421083
He's back!
Why do you keep coming back?
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>>101421083
Hey, I'm not condoning it. It's just what I'm seeing.
>>101421113
Once again, Kirino feeds upon the sadness and despair of her peers, feeling no remorse.

Kirino is mean.
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>>101421113
I laughed
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>>101421199
Well, the first thing Kirino did when Kyousuke confessed was ask about Kuroneko.
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>>101420861
That's weird and impossible, how can that blonde devil be the brunette angel?

>>101420936
Thank you for the tip.

>>101420985
The only scat-fetishit is you, liking that turd Kirino.

Manami is OLEV!
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>>101421274
Why does silver look more glum than bronze in that image?
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>>101421083
I remember you. Welcome back.
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>>101420848
>>101420861
>>101420936
manami a shit
>>101421083
are you just shit posting to be funny?
incest is wincest.
kirino loves her brother
not you anon.
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So guys, this happened not that long ago.
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>>101421366
That's just how Kuroneko looks normally. She inherited that facial expression.
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>>101421392
I'm sorry, what is that image?
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>>101421417
First time I saw that I was so happy. Based Swedes.
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>>101421436
Kinda like Ryuuji always looking threatening?
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>>101421337
>kirino
>blonde

pfffhahahaha
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>>101421528
Yes, that was the reference, good job.
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Who cares, Oreimo is shit anyway.
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>>101421417
Oh ok wow shes confirmed
the best of the best.
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>>101421598
I didn't know that you were making a reference!

I thought it was coincidence!
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>>101421199
>not condoning incest
>also people who complain about satsuki getting fingered by her mom

please tell me /a/ isn't this far gone
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>>101421764
>please tell me /a/ isn't this far gone
I've got some news for you, anon.
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>Thread quiets down
>Resolves into quite discussion and lurking

I like it like this. It's peaceful. Are you guys still here?
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>>101421764
Which Satsuki?

It isn't an uncommon name.
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>>101421392
I don't get it...
This should only work against Kirino and for Manami...

>>101421394
You and Kirino a shit.

>>101421454
Yeppers, Manami is true OLEV!

>>101421540
Well, she normally would grow brown hair, but like the dirty slut she is, she dyes it blonde.

Ah, how can anyone resist such perfect breeding material like Manami?
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>>101421840
What discussion?
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>>101421843
The one that fondles her daughter in a currently airing anime.
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>>101421883
>kirino's hair
>blonde colored

pfffhahahahaha
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>>101421840
Yep, I'm lurking.

Also that Manamifag is pretty annoying.
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>>101421843
you know which one
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>>101421764
I love incest, I just hate Satsuki.
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>>101421910
Just say which one
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>>101421931
You must be (color)blind and/or crazy.
Anything is possible with Kirinofigs.

Why isn't Manami a real girl?
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>>101421941
I have seen much worse manamifags in my time.
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>>101422134
But she is anon

She comes out of my rectum every day but doesn't talk much.
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>>101421840
>I like it like this. It's peaceful. Are you guys still here?
Always.
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>>101422134
>Kirinofigs
Somebody draw that.

Anyway, she isn't real because, alas, the world does not like us having pretty anime girls in our lives. Manamibros are relatively lucky, however, as Manami has a pretty simple appearance that shouldn't be all too hard to encounter. She's a short-haired brunette with glasses. Appearance + personality might be hard to find, though. Sorry.
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>>101421883
you a butthurt
dutch
stop promoting your cow crap factory on /a/
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>>101422134
Colorwise her hair is clearly 'orange'. However it's stated to be "light brown". You could take it whatever way you want but it's definitely not blonde. Blonde is 'yellow'. Oh wait

>replying to a manamifag
>using logic with a manamifag

What am I doing? Sheesh, glad I caught myself there.
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>>101421840
But nobody's discussing anything. We're just having our normal arguments, but at a slower pace.
>>101422294
Pls no bully Manamibro.
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>>101422215
Glad you guys are with me. I feel like some of the old people that used to post and contribute back in December/early January have gone away. It's a bummer.

But I'm just glad I'm not the only one still taking the time to toss out a few arguments here and there.
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Hey, guys! How about we discuss Oreimo for exactly thirteen posts!
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>>101422476
As bad as /a/ can get., just remember that you're not alone. You're never alone.

Even when no one is posting someone is lurking and appreciating the time you took to post some images or links to music, or took the time to write a proper explanation of something for people that don't understand.

The few times I let the shitposters get to me, a few people who appreciate the effort some people still put in asked me to not leave as they like having someone who can explain things they didn't get. Not just for Oreimo, but for anything.
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>>101421941
I'm annoying?
How come?

>>101422187
Like whom?
Us Manamibros have splendid behavioral records.

>>101422200
I think you are talking about Kirino.

>>101422278
But I want the real Manami Tamura, I won't settle for anyone less.

>>101422281
I am not butthurt!!!!
Manami is the finest woman there is.
Kirino is the shit that the rats living under you in the sewer produce all day long.

>>101422294
Light brown is a different color, google it you stup...
Oh yeah, almost forgot I'm dealing with a Kirinofig here, only a few of you understand basic logic...

https://www.google.nl/search?q=kirino+kousaka&client=ubuntu-browser&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=vd7uUrikLoeS0QWgk4DADw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=666
[look at that 666, clearly Kirino will become the mother of he antichrist in the whole anime/manga realm.]

https://www.google.nl/search?q=light+brown&client=ubuntu-browser&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=euHuUs-_MOWu0QWr1YEY&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=666
[Seems brunettes are also antichrist.]

Compare the colors, they differ significantly.
I feel like I am a kindergarten teacher here.
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>>101422726
Yep. That just about sums it up.
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>>101422476
Been on break since the last BD was released. Been here for years but you'll notice that people take breaks like that and come back. Even the shitposters.
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>>101422960
>Even the shitposters.
Too bad new ones are always here to fill their places.
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>Oreimo thread
>Up until the end, Kirinofags had to spend the entire time defending their waifu
>Anons didn't allow it to go beyond that

HA! Success!
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Am I late to this?

Twintails? Wouldn't that make Kirino look a lot more like that girl from Fushimi's next series?
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>>101422700
Thanks, I take solace in this a bit as well. Every so often someone seems to understand or agree with me which makes me think it was worth it. I just hope that kind of discussion continues.
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>>101420509
my fucking nigger

HF anime when

CAPTCHA: suffered fishing
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>>101423095
>Anons didn't allow it to go beyond that

Are you referring to the shitposters or the kirinobros?
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>>101423373
The former.

The thread was mostly non-kirinofags talking, and kirinofags on the defensive.
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>>101423451
Okay. I don't understand whose side your taking or if you're post has a negative inflection towards Oreimo discussion or not.
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>>101423451
Kirinofags post for discussion, and in this thread there has been discussion. So sure, success.

The Kirinofags are the only ones doing any discussing, but that's nothing new.
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>>101423373
>>101423451
But the Kirinoshitstainfigs are the shitposters.
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Dammit. We hit bump limit. But I only just got here!

Oh well, hopefully we'll have another thread friends.
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>>101423245
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/97375060/#97379714

This anon, and several others I ran into gave me hope.
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>>101423675
Ah, see I knew someone was missing this whole time. That's a shame Anon, though thankfully we had enough kirinobros to get some good discussion going.

Give the thread a read. We'll have another one soon I bet.
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>>101423615
Hey, I'm not on their side. I'm calling them Kirinofags. That should be proof enough that I'm on your side.
I'm assuming 'Kirinofig' is here to stay with you?
>>101423675
You can have your next thread tomorrow or the day after. That would be best.
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>>101423835
>Implying 'Kirinofag' is derogatory
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>>101423753
The shit was kind of distracting while I read that post but that's pretty much what /a/ is lacking now. I like to think that the more of these types of logical posts I make the more people it will produce who do the same. It's part of why I made that pastebin for newcomers to Oreimo.

I hope you have a good night Anon. And I hope I see you in the next one.
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>>101423835
Well, some call themselves Kirinofags.
But no offence meant.

But the thread is dead with regards to pictures?
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>>101423974
I used HS when I watched Season 2 and it was okay, but I kind of got turned off to it when they started translating 'aniki' as 'bro'.

Is there a consensus on the best sub group for Season 2?
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>>101421417
>>101421497
That was beautiful.
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>>101424006
>It's part of why I made that pastebin for newcomers to Oreimo.
You're a good man.

>I hope you have a good night Anon. And I hope I see you in the next one.
You too anon. お休み。
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>>101423790
Or we could even go and take over the other related thread right now and fill it with Kirino pictures.

I'm kidding. Read it in Ayase's yandere voice obviously. I'm happy to wait a while for the next good thread.
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>>101424048
that picture

kek
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>>101424170
This would be a good idea if it wasn't for the fact that that thread is full of people that hate Oreimo. I'm pretty fatigued already anyways, I don't think I have the endurace to go on the defensive again. I probably typed a few thousand words in this thread already.

I'm okay with waiting until tomorrow or the next day to have the next thread.

But you guys better be there! I mean it.
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>>101424320
Yeah, we can't make a nice unbiased discussion about Oreimo without some anons shitting up the thread. They're pretending to be Kirinofags because she won according to canon and we're the type that is easily rused by the "your tears are delicious" meme.
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>>101424320
There's already two more whining threads anon.
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>>101424493
I must have skimmed past them on the catalog. Link?
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>>101423790
I wonder if giving the thread a read will make me mad.

That's why sometimes I don't bother.
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>>101424568

>>101422640
>>101424146
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>>101424568
I should mention that I was referring to >>101405311 when I said it was full of haters, didn't notice the others.

>>101424633
Thanks.

>>101424606
I understand that feeling, but honestly I don't think there was anyone ITT defending the show or Kirino that got their shit wrecked or that got proven wrong. Pretty much everyone was forming pretty good arguments and the shitposters left after discussion peaked. I think you'll be okay reading this one, a few of the posts will probably give you some thoughts as well.
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If you guys post in the other threads do you mind saging? I don't think it's worth kicking off another one just to talk to a few Anons that weren't here.
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>>101424786
>>101424633
It's just bait threads. Usually when one of the threads reaches bump limit the shitposters post another to continue until they've had enough and they have to go to sleep cause mommy said so. Just ignore them.



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