Just got one of these. Found out that CCCP is for windows only, what should I use for macs?
Better go buy a new computer, then.
MplayerX now get out
A return slip.
Stream off crunchy roll. You're already enough of a faggot to get a mac anyway so why not just go all the way and get their membership.
Oh right I forgot about VLC
Bootcamp and use windows.
>not using Mac
>buying any other laptop than the 13 inch rMBP
Mplayer X. The VLC mac is also really swell.
Oh fuck my Mac isn't detecting my harddrive
You best be trolling with that gimmick.
>high res screens
>high res display
what does it feel like living a lie
Of course not, you idiot. Macs don't use NTFS for their hdd.
Have fun reformatting your hdd to a mac acceptable format.
It's not unique to mac, faggot. But sure, keep thinking that macs are special snowflakes.
I hope you're installing Windows on it, cause Mac developers have to pay to get the DPI access to make use of that resolution.
>Not using terminal as a media player.
I'm not agreeing with him or anything, but I can't get behind the retina display thing. Their DPI isn't as high as most hi-res displays but they charge SO much extra for it. I like apple and all, but they really overcharge.
what kind of fucktard buys a mac
>It's not unique to mac, faggot
>implying 13 inch rMBP doesn't actually beat the competition in terms of price
>living a lie
Uh, you do realize that you can get the same level of quality for a non-mac machine right?
DPI scaling is a joke on other OSes.
>paying more for Windows 8 and a shittier trackpad and worse battery life
Why does /a/ hate macs so much?
Yeah, keep telling yourself that.
Face it, you macfags only think they're wonderful and oh so worth the price because you're too retarded to do some reading up on the other products available on the market.
>w8 is the only OS other than mac
Same goes for you, retard.
Why would we like it?
>Why does everyone with an IQ higher than 120 know not buy macs?
Because they're horrendously overpriced just for the apple logo slapped on it
A dragon dildo
>all these fags still getting angry at macs
It's like 2007 all over again.
Fine, tell me a laptop with a screen as good as the 13 inch rMBP and just as good trackpad and battery life.
I don't know, I just have never understood the hate they get. To me they're just another hardware manufacturer.
>Why are mac owners the only people who like macs
Because they are butthurt they spent a bunch of money on shit so they have to make it sound good by using the big words from the mac commercials.
So that's the only reason. You're saying you'd use a Mac(book) if you could find one for a reasonable price. And I don't mean a shitty 5 year old one, there's some decently priced MacBook Airs on eBay and such. Even some Pros.
why do idiots like macs so much?
If you use anything but Lenovo Thinkpad, you are a faggot.
I came to this thread to laugh at you filthy pleb mac fucks.
Wannabe hipster macbaby detected.
Not even once.
You mean, every sane being on this planet?
Because you're overcharged. People think that it's dome super special line of computers when in reality the parts from a Mac and Windows both come from the same source: some Taiwanese firm.
Mac in itself isn't a bad OS. I like the OS BY ITSELF. It's the marketing and the pricing that makes it retarded since if you're not an idiot, you can get the same level of quality at a lower price. But people can't be bothered to do their own research.
>the only reason
That's a pretty big reason.
Because the cancer that killed /g/ has not metastasized yet.
I have also been using windows sense 3.1 and macs are just hard to use. Linux is even easier to use over Mac OS.
>being this new
More like - its 1980 agaom/
Samsung is the way to go when it comes to notebooks.
>implying Lenovo hasn't ruined the Thinkpads already
Latest Thinkpad that could be called good was the X220. Then they had to fuck up the keyboard and a bunch of other things.
I understand that, but my point stands. If that's the only reason, then would you consider one when buying a new laptop if you could get it for a comparable price?
This is why
Really? That's... well, I won't say it's unusual, I hear that a lot actually. I just don't personally understand it. Maybe I'm just some kind of retard savant with technology, because I picked up a MacBook and it was simple as shit. Not MY MacBook, just messed with one at Best Buy
>buying a Mac desktop
Who the fuck does that, the value is in the laptops.
I own a 13" 2013 MBA and I think it was worth the price for the battery life alone. The touchpad is also miles ahead of anything else I've used, I have not found one as good even on laptops 2x the price.
Bbbuh muh firepro much wuurrkstashun muh new trashcan mac
/g/'s imaginary 'hatred' for Mac does not stem from any reasonable arguments that Macs are intrinsically bad but merely because they are either too poor to afford one, or are upset because everyone uses them and they want to keep themselves elitist.
Face it, Macs might be expensive but they are pretty amazing for what they're worth. They offer better security than Windows, have slick designs and have phenomenal capabilities. I won't recommend any other brands for laptops.
Short answer: yes.
Long answer: it's not just the price. It's the marketing. That's what's really obnoxious about the brand. They've marketed it as some kind of really special luxury good. Mac isn't special. It's just another fucking PC manufacturer.
I work in corporate development.
Every bussiness/manager clueless faggot in every company no uses Macs. Its retarded as fuck, since infrastructure in companies needs to be changed to support their useless shit now.
Every engineer, developer, anyone who actually works on their PC - Thinkpad.
Its amusing comming to corporate meeting with 3 large company and seeing everyone using the same T series Lenovo Thinkpads, after meeting confusing which belong to whom.
/g/ was wrecked by you macfags and your retardation.
Stay out of /a/.
>and have phenomenal capabilities.
We're not talking about desktops. At least TRY to read the thread before you post.
Now that I can get behind. They're far up their own ass, to be sure. The things themselves aren't BAD, but they're far from luxury items. I personally use a MacBook Air for my work stuff and some light anime (at work) and I can't complain about it. But I bought it off a friend who got a new one, so I only paid about $400 with a new battery. I could never afford an SSD in my desktop, so the speeds on this thing are retarded by comparison to my old 5400RPM HDD
That's pretty neat.
Muh trackpad gestures
Muh battery life
>better security than Windows
if you're a fucking retard and can't just remove viruses etc
>have slick designs
so did blimps
name one thing it does that even linux doesn't do
Does this exist? Could someone point me in the right direction?
>name one thing it does that even linux doesn't do
>better security than Windows,
Did you perhaps miss the news about the malware that hit mac?
>have slick designs
Opinions, so I won't knock on that
>have phenomenal capabilities
Like what? Bear in mind that it has to be something that's unique to Apple.
Shitty build quality
Shit battery life
>Muh battery life
You can get that in a Samsung notebook that uses Windows
Seriously? Are you guys that behind times?
Don't Airs all have SSDs?
god damn it.
You'll see, 2014 will be the year of the Linux desktop after they reveal all those NSA backdoors in Windows and OS X.
Sorry for not being up to date with the latest Mac buzzwords.
12 hours? Really?
>after they reveal all those NSA backdoors in Windows and OS X.
But they already did that with Windows.
I get ~14 hours of battery life, try find me another laptop with similar performance for the same price
>Not realising this is mega bait
>Falling for Mac vs. PC troll
I tried to warn them, no one saw it coming
is image swapping still a thing?
GET THE FUCK OUT
I've gotten mine up to 11 hours
Can you run madvr with spline and frame blending?
The 2008 models had an 80GB HDD option, but they've moved entirely to SSD by this point. Mine's got a 64GB SSD, so it's still a pretty old model (2010) but I can't bitch. It responds quickly, handles most anime that isn't 10bit, and the battery is fucking amazing (as opposed to my old laptop. Somewhere around 6-7 hours versus 3-4)
Yes. I have windows on it too.
>vmware gives mac laptops because less vulnerabilities
>mplayerx is complete shit
>friends berate me because "hurr mac"
or format and install archlinux
No you can't because your piece of shit isn't powerful enough
Stop lying faggot
since this thread is here, i figure i'll ask what I should be getting, cccp + what(some codec or something i see posted)? I've been a VLC pleb but figure its time to upgrade.
his mac is his waifu
Also, I've had laptops with 12 hours battery since 2010. I could get a new one today with over 20 hours battery. I bet you actually think macs are magic.
As someone with a Thinkpad X220 and a Macbook Air 2012, I much prefer using my Air because
>Much better UI
I still miss a lot of things from Windows, but god damn, Windows has fallen so far behind Mac in recent years it makes me sad.
mac > PC
Deal w/ it nerds >:^D
MPC+CCCP (CCCP is the codec pack)
Get CCCP + MadVR
Stop sullying the good name of s4s with your Mac faggotry.
HP Master Race reporting in. Best of performance, battery life and durable notebooks that rival Mac and Vaio in terms of quality.
Only peasants use DELL and Lenovo
Why so fanny flustered?
Which laptop gets 20 hours?
I have both a PC and a mac, so I can't participate in your PC vs Mac debate.
i don't have a reaction image folder so i googled loli angry. my mistake. ;_;
Battery slice. Also known as making your laptop heavy as hell.
>using Mac or PC to watch animu
>not watching it on tv for free
Sure, you could get a laptop with 12 hours of battery but it would be 12 pounds. It kind of defeats the purpose of a portable computer.
mpv with VDPAU or opengl-hq is the best player for Unix-like systems.
VDPAU is a bit better, but it's only for Xorg, Mac OSX uses Quartz. So use opengl-hq video output.
You know you can install Linux, BSD, or Windows on a Mac right?
High resolution IPS matte screen is not a gimmick.
"Retina" is a gimmicky marketing buzzword itself, but what it means is certainly not.
In fact no one is producing high resolution IPS matte screens on laptops except Apple. There's a select few other laptops that have them, like the Google chromebook pixel, but they're worse, even from a price/quality standpoint.
Format it to HFS+.
>Have fun reformatting your hdd to a mac acceptable format.
That is not hard.
Yes it does. It's called libcaca and mplayer(2) or mpv.
What kind of fucktard uses Windows?
I'll agree that OSX probably has a win on this. Linux is better than Windows at least with it.
They're the only other company producing workstation grade laptops since IBM stopped making Thinkpads.
You guys are just a bunch of babbys about this for no good reason.
Lenovo completely removed them. They're just consumer trash now. Check this garbage out.
Replying to more posts as a I read on.
I am not a Mac user but here is my 2 cents:
1. Apple spends asston of cash on advertising to specifically create a brand image. They sell their products not based on quality, but on prestige, fashion statement and bragging rights
2. Many companies do this, designer clothing, sports cars, liquor and whatnot. This is a marketing stunt designed to instill a false image in the mind of consumers to make them believe they are getting something extra-ordinary
3. Most of these companies price their products extremely high to cover the multi-million dollar advertising and marketing budgets plus the markup for brand name and goodwill.
This exists in all consumer brands, you have three levels of quality, Shit, Regular, Luxury. Most people who are smart can custom build their PC's or mix and match between regular and luxury parts to get a better product for less price.
It requires effort, and some research, that's all.
CCCP, use the included MPC-HC, then additionally install MadVR and xy-subfilter.
>What kind of fucktard uses Windows?
The only fucktards here are the Mac users.
Cool rebuttal, try again.
>That is not hard.
I don't think you quite get the point I was mocking him about.
Try google next time
>that "b" on the Thinkpad keyboard
It drives me nuts every time I see that. Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
Sorry, I'm impervious to your Reality Distortion Field™.
>believing advertised battery life
And least post an anandtech review or something.
>Lenovo completely removed them. They're just consumer trash now. Check this garbage out.
You are an idiot. Thinkpads are still the most uses work-notebooks by most proffessionals. They are great by all means. The "rough" feeling, design is one of their main appeals as opposed to Mac trash.
Its laptops for proffessionals actually working on them, requiring high performance and durability. There is no other like that. As opposted to show off useless toys which are macs.
I got my T series Lenovo thinkpad with i7 processor, 16gb ram, 2 SSDs and 20h batterly life. (And also able to use it as body cover if someone shots at me with a gun or fight off hooligans by hitting them with it)
No thanks. It could last for a week and I wouldn't put myself through that.
Never been really a /g/ person so I don't really care about any of those as long as I can use it with what I do. Unless it does that, it's shit. Which isn't the case since everything can do what I need nowadays. Hell even a small netbook would be fine by me if I come down to it.
On a related note, I've always thought /a/'s hatred towards Macs where founded on being hurr hipster. I mean, come on, overpriced? You guys buy hundred, hell thousands of bucks worth of clay model of your waifu.
Also I have this impression I got back in college that macs don't get viruses. Is that true?
You're proving my point. My MBA weighs less than half of that, gets better battery life than it, has a better screen, better build quality, a SSD, a better processor, and a better trackpad.
>20h battery life
I call bullshit on this on. On regular brightness with applications, games or video running, notebooks only go as far as 5 hours. It shows an inflated 8-10 hour initially when you full charge, but that is a software error incorrectly detecting charge stored in Lithium batteries.
I've had the laptop for 4 years. I think I would know.
Years ahead of its time.
They're PVC, not clay, nerd.
>You guys buy hundred, hell thousands of bucks worth of clay model of your waifu.
A GSC figure is worth the 100 bucks I paid because they're actually good quality. The same can't be said about a mac.
> Is that true?
They get viruses, but not nearly as many due to viruses being harder to write and a smaller user base. Virus writers go after the most people possible, hence most viruses being on Windows.
Extended battery. Lenovo are used for actual work, so extended time is actually needed. Some people find even that little and carry spares.
>oh no, someone is willing to spend $100 on product A but not product B, what's going on?
You should go back to college at take at least Economics 101 or something.
>Also I have this impression I got back in college that macs don't get viruses. Is that true?
No. They do typically get less viruses, though this has to do with most viruses being made to target windows because of the larger market share. Macs can also be harder to fix when something does go wrong though.
Released in 2009 douchebag. The iPad didn't even exist let alone "muh retina".
>Reality Distortion Field™.
It weighs 3.7lbs you gigantic retard. That's back in 2009. For an $800 laptop in 2009.
That is different. I was referring to regular batteries that come standard with notebooks.
My HP G6 initially advertised 5 hour battery but when applications and anime are running constantly, it is 3.5 hours max with reduced brightness. When it's fully charged it shows 8hr time, which is a glitch.
Overtime all batteries degrade and time is reduced even further.
W-well, you too!
Again, I'm not a /g/ person so my criteria for using them is as long as they do what I want. I understand where you're coming from with the b-grade thing. It's just that I've never seen it as one before. Again it's mainly ignorance in my part.
That makes sense then. I just had lots of people telling me to get a mac everytime my PC breaks down so the impression stuck somehow.
There were much better displays even in 2009. 1366x768 is just insulting, anyone who would willingly use that is a dumbass.
What is wrong with 1366x768? I find it quite easy on the eyes and comfortable to watch anime and gaming.
A desktop will always be the best option.
Only normalfags buys laptops.
Resolution doesn't really impact video or games. Try writing a paper or programming on a res that small, it's a terrible experience. You can fit ~50 lines of code and 1/2 of a document if you're lucky and use tiny, eye-cancer inducing fonts.
I use a trackpad on the go. I can't be bothered to bring along a mouse and plug it in and out.
>cannot bring it with you to lecture or the library
>Apple spends asston of cash on advertising to specifically create a brand image. They sell their products not based on quality, but on prestige, fashion statement and bragging rights
Except Macs actually are not over-priced.
If you look at a Quadro nvidia card that cost 600 dollars, and an nvidia card that performs better for 200 dollar less, why would someone buy that quadro card?
Why would someone buy a workstation motherboard and a Xeon instead of a gaming motherboard and an i7? Why would someone buy a SAS drive instead of a normal SATA one? Why would someone use ECC RAM?
Why would someone want a laptop with workstation grade hardware, excellent build quality, a high-resolution screen, top-of-class battery life, aluminum body, etc. Rather than a cheaper but "more powerful" plastic Alienware laptop?
I use an IBM made T43p thinkpad as my main laptop. Look at your screen? What do you see? 1366x768 glossy reflection of your neckbeard. Mine is a 1600x1200 IPS matte TFT screen. Look at your keyboard, what do you see? You see absolute garbage, I see THE best keyboard ever put on a laptop. Your lenovo chinkpad's plastic would break to pieces used as a shield for bullets, superior IBM thinkpad material would reflect the bullets.
Macs are hardware, hardware does not get viruses, operating systems do.
You could install Windows on a Mac if you want. But if you're asking whether or not OSX (default OS that comes with a mac) is less susceptible to malware, yes that's true.
This is not really true. Most every important server is running Linux, and these have bigger rewards than home PCs. Yet viruses for Linux practically do not exist. OSX is a Unix-like (technically Unix, period) system too. A lot of it has to do with the design of that OS inherently being more secure than Windows.
Why not both? I have a upper-tier desktop that I remote into from my laptop when I need the power. I guess if you're a super hikki that never leaves you're room that works.
>still being in school
>not having an e-reader for your library needs
Wow who fucking cares. Find me a better laptop in 2009 at that price/performance point.
Here's a hint: You can't.
Why would you need access to a computer every time you leave your home? Unless you wanna update facebook with your latest adventures of course.
Ok, degrading. Is that more accurate? You seem pretty upset about this whole thing.
>Except Macs actually are not over-priced.
Of course not when you're deliberately using stupid comparison.
>Rather than a cheaper but "more powerful" plastic Alienware laptop
Seriously? Using alienware as a comparison? Of course the other shit looks better.
>honestly believe that OSX inherently being more secure than Windows.
I give up.
If you just wanted to update Facebook on the go, you would use a phone.
>still being in school
>not being good enough to know the lecture beforehand
im fine with ~96dpi. my eyes are bad and increasing text size in windows on leretinaview causes issues with other stuff getting scaled and looking like shit
>I use an IBM made T43p thinkpad as my main laptop
pfft hahahahha oh wow
That's because Windows is dogshit at DPI scaling.
For 1080p movies, I use my desktop with CCCP.
For 720p shows, I use my macbook with mpv.
That's all there is to it.
>implying I'm still in school
>implying you have even one braincell after totally missing that point
All your arguments are now invalid.
>every time you leave your home
Have you considered the possibility that some people have this thing called a job? And that it's the sort of job that you need to be on the go?
>calls people dumbass for their choice
>then be curious as to why the person is upset
Watch anime on the go in public.
>>honestly believe that OSX inherently being more secure than Windows.
>I give up.
>pfft hahahahha oh wow
I don't see what's funny.
>Why does /a/ hate macs so much?
Because /a/ is founded on trolling.
I need it for work, and I like being able to play games / shitpost on /a/ on the bus.
>I use an IBM made T43p thinkpad
IBM makes no Thinkpads for many years already. Lenovo produces all of them, even those under IBM brand. IBM and Lenovo are basically one company length. Lenovo just bought Motorolla too to have material base for next IBM mobile devices plans.
No you're just projecting. That laptop saw me through 3 years of university and several programming jobs without any problems. Gave it to my parents and they still use it today.
But hey it's like you're going to admit that you're wrong, so keep upgrading that mac every year like a good goy.
You never know when you'll need it. What if all of a sudden aliens landed and demanded someone fix their spaceship using jQuery? It's a matter of saving the world or living, man.
>watching anime outside
Dear God I hope you joke.
just use some media player thats compatible with a mac nobody fucking cares a fuck what you use. Only fucking retards that foam at the mouth over some pixel being a slightly different color on some player care.
It costs maybe $100 to upgrade to a new macbook. They are one of the few laptops that keep their retail value for years.
>what should I use for macs?
A 10 lb sledgehammer for the macFAIL, and a 45 caliber for your head for having a macFAIL.
>I use an IBM made T43p thinkpad as my main laptop. Look at your screen? What do you see? 1366x768 glossy reflection of your neckbeard. Mine is a 1600x1200 IPS matte TFT screen. Look at your keyboard, what do you see? You see absolute garbage, I see THE best keyboard ever put on a laptop. Your lenovo chinkpad's plastic would break to pieces used as a shield for bullets, superior IBM thinkpad material would reflect the bullets.
You are forgetting people have varying preferences and budgets. A standard notebook for work and gaming does not have the fancy features that you mentioned. Obviously you get what you pay for. The argument is with Apple where you don't get what you pay for, just like Beats headphones for suckers who just put them on without any music playing in stadiums and outdoor events just to show off.
rolf n1 m8 gr8 b8 i r8 8/8
>Most every important server is running Linux
Unix, not Linux. Most important servers are running hand developed operation systems to support them. Linux is consumer shit. And no, Windows Server is strong. Only reason Linux is ever used since its cheap, or unix based system if need complete customization for the task.
>Yet viruses for Linux practically do not exist.
>But if you're asking whether or not OSX (default OS that comes with a mac) is less susceptible to malware, yes that's true.
>Why would someone want a laptop with workstation grade hardware, excellent build quality, a high-resolution screen, top-of-class battery life, aluminum body, etc. Rather than a cheaper but "more powerful" plastic Alienware laptop?
Global rule six.
You as well.
Which actually is the point since he asked /a/ who actually go ballistic over the smallest artefact in their not-mkvs.
Enjoy your banding. And your eye cancer.
I do it all the time in my uni library. Sometimes even play Dota when I have good Wifi.
Most every important server is running Linux, and these have bigger rewards than home PCs. Yet viruses for Linux practically do not exist.
Are you sure this doesn't have anything to do with servers just being inherently harder to target than home PCs?
This level of argumentation is too high for me. Also, you might want to rename your files.
Wow dude your greentext sure showed him sweet argument
But the display size is the same small so with bigger resolution you have smaller fonts. What are you even talk about, 17+ inch notebooks?
>thinks Linux is not vulnerable and has no malware/viruses
>does not know difference between Linux and Unix
>still tries to shitpost pretending he knows what he talks about
Why are you assuming some sort of samefag and (still) shitposting with no actual arguments?
Are you serious mate? Did you just use this trash of a computer as an attempt to shit on my notebook? My one year old HP Notebook 13.1 inch i3 2GB DDR3 Ram and Intel HD 4000 can shit all over your t43p anyday. I can't believe I fell for your bait.
>IBM makes no Thinkpads for many years already.
I am well aware of that. IBM has not made Thinkpads since around mid-2005 to be specific.
>even those under IBM brand
They stopped using the IBM brand on them shortly after Lenovo acquisition.
> IBM and Lenovo are basically one company length.
Not even remotely close. IBM is making mainframes, servers, and supercomputers, and developing Linux and AIX for them. Lenovo is making crap PCs with Windows8 to be sold at best buy and various other retailers.
>Unix, not Linux. Most important servers are running hand developed operation systems to support them. Linux is consumer shit. And no, Windows Server is strong. Only reason Linux is ever used since its cheap, or unix based system if need complete customization for the task.
No, that's not true. Remaining Unix systems like Solaris and AIX are actually minority. No one is making "hand-developed" operating systems for servers either, they use existing ones.
>Linux is consumer shit.
Yes, this is why pretty much every supercomputer and companies like Google, Intel, or IBM use Linux. They certainly have far more than enough money for whatever system they want, and they choose Linux.
The _majority_ of all servers, from VPSs to large computers running Google's heaviest loads, are using linux.
>Windows Server is strong.
It has some usage share, it's the minority though, and mostly found in environments where people have no clue what they're doing, or it's just one or two boxes in an enterprise for compatibility with something legacy.
/a/ was the last place I expected to hate the mac.
this sure is a nice friendly thread about the hottest anime shows were watching this season
Face it, if you own a mac you're probably an elitist faggot who runs around shouting about his retina screen Mac OSX bullshit.
Now excuse me while I go back to my wonderful custom-built Windows machine with an i7-3930k 3.2ghz processor and 2x Nvidia Geforce GTX TITANs to watch Aku no Hana.
>an i7-3930k 3.2ghz processor and 2x Nvidia Geforce GTX TITANs
Now stop posting
This thread is probably better than half the threads on /g/.
Who wouldn't want to be a cute little girl socializing online with her friends who are also little girls
>does not know difference between Linux and Unix
I do obviously, I don't know what is making you think I don't. For proof I will even bring up this quote before you ever replied to me
>OSX is a Unix-like (technically Unix, period) system too.
>>thinks Linux is not vulnerable and has no malware/viruses
I never said it has no malware/viruses or has ever suffered vulnerabilities. You're using a strawman argument.
I said viruses for Linux practically do not exist, and that is true.
I kno rite <3
Does this mean that using windows will transport me into the matrix?
Also what kind of shitty crosshair placement is that.
Ok faggots, tell me which is the best brand of laptops of else I buy a tablet and connect a kb/mouse to it and use as a desktop.
well make this thread in /g/ then
It depends on your usage and preference.
Students and casual users go for Dell and Lenovo
You want better hardware which is widely supported, go for HP and Acer
You want to impress your butt buddies, go for Mac and Vaio
You want a gaming rig, build your own customized dekstop
>HP and Acer
Don't buy a laptop, make your own home grown super rig out of organic parts.
Serious question: If I want a really light and portable laptop for linux, what should I get? A chromebook?
So Acer is good in power or what hardware property? The one I had died twice in 2.5 years. What about Toshiba?
Acer chromebook is pretty nice and only $200.
>Why you hate Macs?
>>Overpriced hipsters shit
>Well if that's the only reason...
So, aside from that sucking chest wound, how is your health these days?
holy shit I 100% thought this was /g/ til now.
Used X series thinkpad off ebay or Macbook Air.
I am using HP Desktops and Notebooks for last 7 years. I have put them through all kinds of environment and abuse, they still working with original parts. HP has the decency to provide you with updated drivers for all your components. Acer tend to have better battery life than HP and also great support drivers and hardware. My friend bought an i7 Dell, the built-in speakers blew up, there is no recovery disk, partition and he still can't find drivers for his built-in webcam when switched back to Win7
Linux can even on a toaster, get anything that fits your budget and looks respectable.
From what I understand, drivers can be a bitch. I'm not linux veteran, so I'm looking for something that lots of people have already used
If you said this a year ago it would've been right. Now /g/ is full of asshat shit eating mactards and doge may may spammers. Half the people with sense have left.
Acer and Dell tend to have stability issues. I have not used Lenovo so can't say. Personally using HP my whole life, never had any issues. Only have to replace notebook battery around every 18 months.
My current HP Notebook came empty without any OS. I wanted it that way as I hate pre-loaded garbage software. All I had to do was use my dekstop to search for my model, download all the drivers listed for audio, video, wifi, bluetooth and Bios. The wierd part is the drivers are meant for Win8 but they run fine on Win7 which I discovered recently. So I am quite happy with the performance.
But I must warn you, HP is not very good when it comes to linux mainly due to broadcom and ralink wifi which does not work on most linux distros. You are better off with a Dell or Lenovo
/a/ - /g/
>They stopped using the IBM brand on them shortly after Lenovo acquisition.
No, some products are still produced by Lenovo under IBM trademark.
>Not even remotely close. IBM is making mainframes, servers, and supercomputers, and developing Linux and AIX for them. Lenovo is making crap PCs with Windows8 to be sold at best buy and various other retailers.
Once again, you are ignorant idiot. IBM did not just sell the brand to Lenovo. IBM and Lenovo are a partnership, and IBM holds big shares of Lenovo (possibly control share through other finanfial fonds). They develop and produce notebooks together, as well in future there will be whole new breed of Lenovo mobile devices -developed by IBM.
>o, that's not true. Remaining Unix systems like Solaris and AIX are actually minority. No one is making "hand-developed" operating systems for servers either, they use existing ones.
Your ignorance knows no bounds. Linux and Windows operation system share the same share on Server market: around 30% each. The rest is mostly Unix based systesms like Free-BSD, Solaris, HP-US, Aix etc.
Mainframe and Supercomputer is pretty much dominated by Linux though, since there is only couple of companies that develop specific software and market is dominated by Novell.
>in environments where people have no clue what they're doing, or it's just one or two boxes in an enterprise for compatibility with something legacy.
Yeah, right. That ignorance. Confirmed for jobless wannabe IT specialist.
/a/ and /g/ has always been sisters, albeit problematic
/g/ touched me in my special place.
>HP and Acer better than Lenovo
>putting Dell and Lenovo on same level
Idiocy knows no limits. Only Lenovo there actually can be named as someone doing anything differently.
HP, Acer and Dell are just brand names you stick on shit Walmart PC assembled by north koreans from stock components. You can switch the Logo and nothing would change.
Your /g/ spot?
Our ties with /g/ ended when they stopped having Techloligy threads.
All of these so called 'brands' are manufactured in China using same Intel or AMD processors and having similar hardware. The real difference is the quality and integration of hardware with software.
Most companies can't get this mix right and put hardware that don't compliment each other and fucks up performance for the user.
Again subjective issue, I am talking based on my own experience.
Since when do men have G-spots? Prostate does not count.
>people bitching about Macbooks
If you're using Windows, you're just as much of a fag as the OSX user. At least you don't need to dualboot/VM a UNIX OS or use a terminal emulator if you want to program on a MBP.
GNU's Not Unix, mactard.
As Lewis Black put it so gracefully, most of the time we have to choose between two bowls of shit, the only difference is the smell.
>not having both a Mac and PC with Windows
This topic is full of pleb
>No, some products are still produced by Lenovo under IBM trademark.
Name one. There's no such thing as an IBM name on a Lenovo product today.
>IBM and Lenovo are a partnership, and IBM holds big shares of Lenovo (possibly control share through other finanfial fonds).
They are two mutually exclusive companies, they are not buddies, they do not work together, they do not produce products together. They bought the brand, and development went under Lenovo control.
>IBM has steadily reduced its holdings of Lenovo stock. In July 2008, IBM's interest in Lenovo fell below the 5% threshold that mandates public disclosure.
>Linux and Windows operation system share the same share on Server market:
Linux and Windows do not share the same usage share on servers, not even remotely close. And actual Unix on servers is even more of a minority than Windows server.
By the way, since you like to nitpick, FreeBSD is not Unix, you ignorant idiot.
The significant majority of all servers run Linux, this is a fact.
There is 34% unknown on the first one, most of which are almost undoubtedly Linux. The second one sites Linux share as 58-78%.
>They are two mutually exclusive companies
Do you not know what the fuck partnership means?
I forgot to mention that you're equally autistic if you think rMBPs are horribly overpriced. Go find me a laptop with equal resolution, a good trackpad, better build quality, and amazing battery life. Don't forget to factor in the $100-200 student discount.
I group GNU and Unix together; I don't give a shit about what RMS thinks. Also, I don't use any Mac products and my current laptop is an ASUS N550JV.
Is a resolution that high really necessary on a screen that small?
>GNU literally stands for GNU's not Unix
>yeah whatever its Unix
Stupidity knows no bounds
Perhaps "mutually exclusive" was not the right term.
In this specific case "partnership" really means IBM has some old Lenovo stock lying around.
You can buy stock in Lenovo too if you want.
And WINE stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator.
>grouping together means the same as equals
I don't recall ever saying GNU = Unix, and I only mentioned it in my first post as a comparison because Macs are Unix-based.
What's the best .MKV Player?
Its not dumbass
Its a compatibility layer
So fucking stupid
Not him, but the high res screen is fantastic if your read frequently on it. I'm really miffed that Apple is the only one that offers it now, everyone else offers this touch screen bullshit instead.
VLC or crunchyroll.
Why would you download anyways? Just stream, man. You can get 1080p streams these days.
>Its a compatibility layer
That emulates a fully working Windows environment for applications.
WINE even stood for Windows Emulator in the past.
Does it really make that big of a difference for reading compared to a 1080x1920 or even 1600x900?
>wants to use a trackpad mouse instead of buying a real one
Just use crunchyroll, retard. You won't support the industry any other way.
I find I get a lot less eyestrain from it. But that might just be unique to me.
I'm sorry this board is for under 12 year old girls only.
You do not know how computers work
Apple is one of 4chan's biggest allergens. Just never mention it on 4chan if you don't want your feelings to get hurt.
What a great argument.
Yes. Hell, even my HTC One's 1080x1920 display is significantly better than my Nexus 4's 720x1280 screen.
And the difference between a regular 1600x900 and a 1920x1080 monitor is as clear as day.
Mentioning Apple gets everyone's feelings hurt.
>If you use anything but Lenovo Thinkpad, you are a faggot.
I'm a faggot for having a desktop?
please don't respond
I want to go right up in there and smoke a cigarette all over everything.
I haven't even smoked for years.
Reply for you.
I've got Macbook and I regret nothing
Besides the stupid pricing, marketing with "lifestyle", and genuine lack of reason to ever buy a mac?
Because Apple is a terrible company that abuses its patents in the most ridiculous ways and attempts to completely control the user experience. It should not be illegal for me to use a piece of hardware I buy for non-criminal purposes, even if the product was not intentionally created for said use.
Also, Apple never invented a piece of hardware in its entire existence. They even fucking patented the magnetized charger thing that had existed in China for over 20 years before they began using it. But when Motorola tries to use its patent for mobile hardware used to access wifi? Not fair, according to the justice system.
The desk reminds me of my childhood bedroom, but I like your stuff nonetheless.
the reality is that macbooks are the best on the market and only in the last few months have pc laptops started to attempt to compete with apple.
yes you pay the mac-tax but it's worth it. the kids on here only see $$ and spec and ignore the user experience.
so kiddies keep buying your $400 chinkpads that fall apart after extended use.
2D girls don't use facebook.
They're too busy being moe and preparing for the school festival.
>not buying a mac for price retention and selling if for $800 3 years down the line
>buy a mac like a moron
>sell a used mac to an even bigger moron
What the fuck do I do for three years? Not enjoy things?
Looks like the key that creates capital letters is broken on your mac.
It's cmd+67+switch right?
>Yes, I hide the fact that I'm a giant faggot paying for overpriced laptops from my parents.
Apple is a cult, right? That's the only way anyone could explain such blind devotion to a product that's so utterly inferior in every respect.
They're pretty good as heaters.
Yeah, it literally is
>The neuroscientists ran a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) test on an Apple fanatic and discovered that images of the technology company's gadgets lit up the same parts of the brain as images of a deity do for religious people, the report says.
The thinkpads I used in elementary school were far better than any mac I had to use since that time.
Too often I hear complaints about their warranty and customer service. Everything on Apple devices is inferior to other products.
Keep forcing your cult habits on other people should be illigal.
What actually happens in the world:
Marketing > Quality
Fanboy-ism > Reality
Opinions > Fact
I should be a philosopher
So in other words, Christians and Muslims are all macfags.
>what should I use for macs?
The store's return policy.
There are certain setups that are only really possible if you get a Apple laptop. Of course, all of these setups are utterly worthless and totally outclassed by similar setups from sane manufacturers, who know that their consumers are informed, and don't need 16GB of ram in a fucking netbook.
I think the customer service is pretty good, because they'll solve any issue you have. Which is to be expected when you're paying such a premium for the honor. You could buy a whole new PC instead of lugging it all the way to an Apple store for cheaper.
And Apple haters are reddit atheists
Atheists are edgy hipsters that use Linux because GUI and UI makes them feel inferior. Command lines easily convince other people that you are a super hacker.
You've got it backwards there, bud. they're saying that Macfags treat Apple products like religious people treat their gods.
>what should I use for macs?
The store's return policy.
>Mac shills on /a/
Who the fuck cares if it's overpriced?
Also, overpricing is relative when it's less than 1 month worth of your salary.
>capitalizing on the internet
Hipsters are worse than Atheists and Religious people combined. They fucking piss me off so much.
>because GUI and UI makes them feel inferior.
Or, you know, they're not so stupid that they can handle system settings beyond on/off, brightness levels, and wireless settings.
Stay mad you greasy faggot
Good to know that moot dumped his shitty Thinkpad for a MacBook Air :3
Two words to everyone who buys a MacBook: Think Pad.
>Who the fuck cares if it's overpriced?
People who know their shit and want to get the most out of their product.
>Who the fuck cares if it's overpriced?
>Hey, I just bought a 97 Chevy pick-up for $50,000. Wait, why are you calling me stupid? Why are you laughing at me? Ch-chevy haters!
Or if the Linux cartel is paying for your life.
Please tell me what you think constitutes a hipster. I'm dying to know.
That's the joke
Linux is like an undercooked pizza. It fucking sucks no matter what distro topping you put on it.
It's like halfway between Windows and Mac, with a clusterfuck of distros and incompatible drivers. If the linux community wants to win over people, lets start with improving the user experience for everyone, not just CS professionals.
>Who the fuck cares if it's overpriced?
>Buy a mac
>Buy some other PC
>Buy an additional 3TB external drive
>buying overpriced shit when you can buy a better product for the same amount of money
I have a drobo with 3 2TB and 2 3TB disks.
Silence, design and stability and the lack of cables worth more for me than a lower price tag
Find me a better product compared to the rMBP (15").
So get something else with the money? Are you thick?
All IMAGES and resulting discussion should pertain to anime or manga
but when i do it my thread is deleted but if someone else does it. it stays.DOUBLE STANDARD
>moot is a technotard
This is not news. Plus isn't 4chan hosted on mac servers?
Aren't we all use apple right now?
You do realise the strength of Apple has been that they integrate both hardware and software to give smooth experience right? That is basically, it because now beside Intel processors, they are using hardware from other manufacturers in iPads, iPhones and MBA. So it's no longer 'unique', you can breakdown the hardware specs and level it with PC benchmarks.
You dodged the question. son
Not even the price tag, just overall functionality and software support.
>lack of cables
Mindless consumer confirmed.
What servers do you think elder tales are hosted on?
What kind of database are they living in?
I'm liking a mac for the simplicity.
That's really it.
>issue with functionality
>halfway between Windows and Mac
That makes absolutely no sense, and it just sounds like you learned what distro meant the other day so you're trying to namedrop that term in order to sound like you've tried Linux.
Really, it's not anywhere between Mac and Windows, it'd be on the side opposite of Windows if we're using a scale or meter type distribution from very to little. It allows for more user modification than both, code/hardware access than both, requires more understanding of the system than both, gives you more freedom than both, has less driver support than either, and is less expensive than either.
You've obviously never even touched a computer running Linux, much less seen what it's like apparently.
>lets start with improving the user experience for everyone
Why the fuck do you think I want to win over people? So we can lose core features in favor of a "user-friendly" experience? Fuck that, I'd rather do the cool shit I'm allowed to on a Linux than use a restricted OS just so idiots going to college for shit like basket-weaving start using it.
Fucking shit mods 3 hours later and this is still up.
He most certainly did not, Macs are inferior to PCs in the same price range.
It ran on Mac servers. Subscriptions were starting to drop off, so Apple decided nobody could leave the game any more. Should have read that licensing agreement more carefully.
Apparently you are, if you don't know that having a Unix-based OS means DRM isn't restricting you in every possible way.
Not really. You just refuse to believe that your cherished company is using the same 'inferior' technology used in Windows PC's but selling it to you for a higher price... because well Aluminium casing... Retina display is a fancy word for compressing a higher ppi display into a smaller frame, which combined with anti-aliasing gives you the illusion of a better display.
So the final boss is the uploaded consciousness of steve jobs?
In what? Benchmark scores?
For everything I use it it works fine while I have to reboot it when a major OS update is coming, silent as fuck and works well with all my other device without any sync hiccups. More than enough for me.
Even if we're talking about laptops, you can't seriously think Apple laptops are the only quiet ones right? Even taking a grand off the price tag, there would still be cheaper alternatives just as quiet.
Design is your second quality in looking for a computer or laptop? Really? Not performance, software compatibility, battery life, but design?
>lack of cables
I'm not aware of any laptop that requires you have to any cable plugged in at all times.
That's a really shitty list of criteria for a computer.
>Why the fuck do you think I want to win over people? So we can lose core features in favor of a "user-friendly" experience? Fuck that, I'd rather do the cool shit I'm allowed to on a Linux than use a restricted OS just so idiots going to college for shit like basket-weaving start using it.
You don't represent the Linux community.
>high DPI IPS
>illusion of a better display.
It isn't even the best DPI IPS on the market.
>Even taking a grand off the price tag, there would still be cheaper alternatives just as quiet.
Please, tell me the quietest laptop you can find for 99 USD.
>mfw trying to use a linux repository
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea, just make a GUI for fucks sake
Stop using words you don't know.
Awesome backpedaling skills, brohannes.
Fact is my Asus completely floors your ricecooker.
Can you even play 1080p anime without lag?
This thread degraded into a general mac vs pc shitstorm, not a macbook vs other laptops. So those are for desktop macs.
Performance is a given (I use a maxed bto imac), softer compatibility is also ok, battery life if the best on macbooks, if we want to go there.So, since those are given, I can look for other factors.
Anyway, I wonder when will mods find this thread.
>Y-you're opinion doesn't count!
>You don't represent this metaphysical concept of a community around a product!
I don't give a shit, I never said I did. What does that have to do with the comparison between Mac OS and Linux? You can't handle basic system functions and I can.
For desktops sure, but for laptops macs aren't really any more overpriced than any other manufacturer.
It plays 1080p Hi10 shit with 5-10% avg load.
And? You say it's not better than your average laptop display because it's Apple?
>Can you even play 1080p anime without lag?
That isn't even a feat.
The only thing that's even semi-relevant is the fact that watching anime on laptops is stupid. The only thing worse is watching it on your telephone.
You are just a butthurt loser who can't stand Linux expanding to other users. The whole idea of open source was to involve everyone and provide an alternative to proprietary software.
You fucking ass bandit that is the goal of promoting open source then what is the point if only a selected few are able to actually use it? Have you ever been to a Linux community forum?
That's even worse, you think Macs are the quietest desktops? That's a fucking joke.
>Performance is a given
Except it isn't per dollar.
>software compatibility is ok
It's inferior to other products.
>battery life is the best on macs
Every comparison I've seen puts the latest VAIO series as the best in battery life performance with over 14 hours.
>since those are a given
They aren't, the only one you can argue about there is battery life because no one is going to get it objectively correct. Different tests ran by different people in different conditions. Performance it's worse per dollar, and it has shittier software compatibility than its competitors.
Then why the fuck are you paying extra for something that isn't even the best?
>who can't stand Linux expanding to other users
Can't stand? No, I don't give a shit how many people are using Linux as long as its core features remain.
>what is the point if only a selected few are able to actually use it?
>what's the point in using open source software when you get to use it?
Fuck no. Why the fuck do I need all this activism attached to me for using a fucking computer? Fuck off.
Not a single shit given. I earn money to grease the gears of capitalism.
quite enough for me
Also, explain that shittier software compatibility part, because I can run any mac or windows software without issues or any notable performance loss (and no, I don't have to dual boot for that). It's funny, because I can also run VNs that caused issues for Win users.
I'm an anything-but-windows person myself. OS X, GNU/Linux, and BSD all afford the user much more control over his system. You can cry hipster-this and douche-that all you want, but at the end of the day a Mac running OS X is a much more technologically-capable device than a machine running a Microsoft operating system.
>Except it isn't per dollar.
>It's inferior to other products.
You can run OS X applications native, Windows applications with Wine and POSIX applications usually work natively without too much issue.
>Then why the fuck are you paying extra for something that isn't even the best?
Because it's still above average. And what has a better display? Those piece of shit chromebooks? Have fun dealing with google's information theft.
>Anime & Manga
CMplayer. It's a front end for MPV.
There's probably a mac version
>I don't care if I waste money!
Okay, waste your money to use your inefficient computer that does less than others. That's fine, don't pretend it's sane.
>i-its good enough for me!
That's a really shitty defense, if you can buy the best available product for less but you don't out of brand loyalty or complacency then you're a moron. People will continue to laugh at your stupidity.
>I can run any mac or windows software without issues
You can't even watch anime at 1080p with madvr with spline and frame blending.
>It's funny, because I can also run VNs that caused issues for Win users.
You're probably stupid enough to think because it has issues, it must be because it's being used on Windows. If you're running a windows emulator and it works fine, then it isn't a windows issue.
If you're stupid enough to limit your VN catalog by how few have mac versions, then you're a low-level faggot.
It's not just Apple; all commercial OSs are based on the idea of creating a system of belief. To paraphrase an astute observation by Stephenson: commercial OSs are about constructing a Disneyworld-esque environment that the users hold faith with a "Want To Believe" they're getting something of value. A company's most valuable asset is its marketing division.
I open up a 1080p (4:3) video and it opens up a 400x300 sized video?
Yeah, nope. What a piece of shit.
>because its still above average so I'll pay for more than the best!
>complaining about that when you have a Mac
Google bases their business on data collection for ads, and they're open about it.
Apple? Not so much, they pretend they don't. And when they get caught doing it with one piece of software, they don't tell you if they're doing it with others. So users have to try and figure it out on their own.
>Have fun dealing with google's information theft.
This is what I mean, though. You're too stupid to figure out how to install your own OS on a laptop. I can run Linux on it.
>If you're stupid enough to limit your VN catalog by how few have mac versions, then you're a low-level faggot.
Apparently you have serious reading comprehension issues.
Apart from that, your claims weight nothing. You'll never have the very best of everything nor should you aim for it, because it's fucking pointless apart from e-peen waving. Also, a mac is not inefficient in any sense, unless you're again, weighting everything per dollar. Which is retarded.
That video playback claim is also retarded. It's very possible. But I use XBMC on a htpc because of easier streaming capabilities and better library management.
>Google bases their business on data collection for ads, and they're open about it.
Like the time they drove cars around cities just to snatch Wi-Fi data?
What? That doesn't happen at all to me.
You're barking up the wrong tree anon. I only came here to laugh at you, not to discuss PC specs.
That wasn't a question.
>Don't watch anime, just kill yourself
I don't give a shit about music I listen logged. I'm very bothered when my location is logged and reported (in which case, it turned out that Apple didn't send that data for processing and keeping) or when my face appears in web-ads or when my mails are skimmed by bots.
>I only came here to laugh at you, not to discuss PC specs.
So, you don't actually know a laptop better than the rMBP (15")?
>Apparently you have serious reading comprehension issues.
Apparently you do, I'm saying that if you're using a windows emulator, then your claim about macs running WINDOWS BASED software better than a windows machine is retarded because it's impossible. If that isn't the case, ie you're not using an emulator, then you are severely limiting your catalog with entry-level shit.
>You'll never have the very best of everything nor should you aim for it
>You can never buy the best product, nor should you try.
What? Of course you can, and you should try to get the best product for your dollar. If money isn't an issue, and according to you it isn't, then just buy the best product. Unless that's too hard for you? You know, reading.
>Weighing how well your product performs to how much you paid for it is stupid.
Right, let me pay $20 more for a toaster that can't toast my bread half the time. It's silly for me to compare how well my toaster toasts toast to how much I paid for it.
>It's very possible.
Not unless you dual boot!
>Not unless you dual boot!
Why would you limit yourself to single-boot?
>music I listen logged.
>Apple had installed software that was monitoring and reporting back to them about files on our local networks. It did it without asking, without telling us what information was being reported, without telling us who the information was being sent to, and without telling us what the information was to be used for
The problem is that you don't know what Apple is logging because they won't ever say anything unless they're caught red-handed. And you can disable location identification in google settings, for crying out loud.
Everything else you said has nothing to do with PC's, but with software that you don't need to use.
>this is completely relevant to desktop
Good job at being retarded, maybe you should refer to the part where I mention that you can uninstall Chrome OS and use something like Linux now that freedom and privacy is suddenly a concern in the Apple cult.
>Good job at being retarded
Good job at making retarded statements.
>Also, explain that shittier software compatibility part, because I can run any mac or windows software without issues or any notable performance loss (and no, I don't have to dual boot for that). It's funny, because I can also run VNs that caused issues for Win users.
>and no, I don't have to dual boot for that
Why use the mac part of the boot at all? There is nothing you can do on a Mac OS that you can't on any other OS. Only windows really has that claim when it comes to most games being actually playable.
I can't go back to watching it on anything else after I got my 50" plasma.
>Google collects information for money and is open about it being their way of making money.
>Like that time they collected information for money!
tl;dr: Macs are for posers and retarded normalfags who think they're cool by buying utter shit
Because I prefer to use the tools that are there for osx.
Refer to my statement again, either you're using an emulator, which makes your statement about running windows software better than windows retarded, or you're severely limiting your catalog of available VNs.
Here's some comparison: http://vndb.org/v/all
>There is nothing you can do on a Mac OS that you can't on any other OS.
There's nothing I want to do on Windows or Linux that I can't do inside OS X.
I can do the shit I want from Linux inside OS X since OS X is UNIX and I can just easily install POSIX software on it and at the same time, use Adobe's suite of programs. Then maybe if there's a single piece of software that Windows has and that I actually need to run, I can just use WINE. Not that I've had to.
Also, what's this Mac OS you speak of?
Epic post, brah. You showed them.
It was completely legal at the time, and you should not be surprised about what they found. Radio wiretap law in the US, which is what wifi currently falls under, considers listening to a public electronic broadcast to be legal. All the data Google captured was public and unencrypted, so they violated no laws in doing so - though the ongoing lawsuit will probably change that. Lesson to be learned is that if you don't want people to see what's on your network, don't leave it unencrypted.
What is exclusive to osx? I have never encountered a reason to dual-boot osx, but almost every mac user finds one to dual boot linux or windows.
Why do it from inside a Mac? It's inferior hardware to dollar wise. Again, what can you do on a Mac's OS that you can't on anything else?
The way they install the software and drive partitions at the factory is shit. My rescue and recovery partitions don't even work properly, recovery disks don't either, and my w530 has bricked itself almost three times from known power-related issues.
It's sad that I have to choose between this and a super hot MBP that I'd still have to download and install Windows on if I want to be able to use a laptop for home and work.
Or people who like OSX and the look of the laptop and are willing to pay extra for it.
It is a windows emulator (well, more like a virtual machine that has a coherence mode) but it works with minimal resources. And the part where I could run some game that caused normal windows users an issue is true. Too bad I forgot the title but it was some loli eroge. But that's not saying it runs win apps better than win itself. But it's not worse either.
>It was completely legal at the time
Doesn't mean that they're actually being open about it, which they weren't.
When caught, they basically threw their hands in the air and said "we didn't know our cars were collecting Wi-Fi data! They've must've done it by themselves!"
Am I on /g/?
>Again, what can you do on a Mac's OS that you can't on anything else?
Have POSIX and Photoshop at the same time.
>But that's not saying it runs win apps better than win itself. But it's not worse either.
It's saying the user has hardware issues or incorrectly installed the VN. It has nothing to do with windows and is pointless to bring up.
Now go back to pretending like paying more for less is somehow reasonable.
Omnifocus, Tweetbot (yes, it's awesome to follow your favorite artists), Instacast, Alfred, Hazel, etc.
I'd have a coalgirls release in vlc, but I've moved them all to an external hard drive.
The thing is, all you 'MPC-HC masterrace' types haven't watched half the anime I have.
While I'm masterrace macbook pro watching raw anime. Have fun waiting for duwang to come to the rescue
Nice argument, sheep.
Is there anything exclusive that isn't for tweed jacket wearing hipsters sitting in Starbucks?
Everything on that list.
You talk as if watching anime raw is difficult.
You're yet to expand on the less part, apart from benchmark scores. Mention any use-case that you can do on a win machine and not on a mac with parallels.
The more part is obvious in cases. The new macpro, on the other hand, is not overpriced compared to its' innards.
So, you mean running a windows emulator on linux?
>B-but you need an emulator!
You mean like most of the shit I do would require on a Mac?
Read my post again you imbecile. And no, I'm not a macfag.
Funny you should mention DUWANG, your post looks like it could've been written by them.
But I don't want to run Photoshop on an emulator, since it's heavy as fuck and I want my Photoshop to work all the time. Crashing is a pretty shitty thing to have when you're trying to work.
>You mean like most of the shit I do would require on a Mac?
I do not give a shit about your use cases. My use cases on OS X involve no emulation. None at all.
A to-do list.
Obviously you need a mac to follow artists on twitter.
>a podcast app
Yes, no one using windows or linux can create podcasts. Instacast isn't even the best software for recording them.
>searching for files
This is getting stupid, I think you missed my point completely.
>there are no automated sorting programs for windows or linux.
This really just captures how fucking stupid you people can be.
i don't know which is worst
>The new macpro, on the other hand, is not overpriced compared to its' innards.
Unfortunately, it's an overpriced piece of shit for anything but actual professionals who need a rig like that.
At 10 grand, it's utterly worthless to 99.99% of people who own a PC.
windows can't even support japanese characters, let alone japanese anime!
Watching anime with madvr and frame blending.
Playing most games.
>benchmark scores which capture with objective data how well your PC is performing doesn't count
You're an idiot.
>A to-do list.
>searching for files
Shows how short-sighted you are.
Anyway, I'm enjoying this too much to stop.
Yes, every software is equal to every software in the same category.
This just in, Call of Duty is the same as Half-Life.
>"we didn't know our cars were collecting Wi-Fi data! They've must've done it by themselves!"
Correct on the first part, hyperbolic on the second.
The original intent of the data gathering was to identify where open wireless networks - like at restaurants and other public locations - could be found, mapping broadcast data in the same pass as geographical data. But the program which gathered the data contained an unintended segment of old code which also stored fragments of data which open networks transmitted. When the data collection was discovered, they reexamined the program and removed the old function, then sent the collected data (~600GB) to a third party for impartial deletion.
>HP Master Race
The people who use a mac are the same kinds of people who have a fucking facebook account. Minor "convenience" for pointless social media garbage, and a massive lack of anything an enthusiast would actually need.
I'd tell my mom to buy a mac, but I sure as fuck wouldn't tell my buddy who is interested in computers to get one. They're a cut down experience for old people, and tons of hipsters have bought into the marketing hype.
Does Windows still do C:¥?
No, /g/ actually likes OS X
So you watch shittier anime, don't play games, and don't read visual novels? What are you even doing on this board?
There is nothing special about Hazel or Alfred. At all. They're very basic programs. I'm not even going to bother spelling out how ridiculous it is to pay several hundred dollars more for a to-do list app.
Install the iteration of Windows that best suits you, then you can use any program you'll ever need.
>The people who use a mac are the same kinds of people who have a fucking facebook account.
I hope you never see the OS breakdown of Facebook users, since it might shock you.
I meant old /g/, not the reddit tier den of hipsters it is today.
I need to use bash.
/g/ is still liking OS X though.
>So you watch shittier anime
Sorry, can you list all the Windows exclusive anime?
The majority of them are 40 year olds accessing Facebook from their work computer. If you factored in the smaller market share of macs, it'd be more.
But you CAN dual-boot these days if you feel you do.
You could use Cygwin.
You also could stuff broken glass in your penis.
No True /g/-man.
Sorry, shittier quality video for anime. Unless, you're dual-booting. And you still haven't explained what kind of POSIX programs you need to run while using photoshop. My computer runs it fine when using it through emulation, but I've rarely had to with dual-boot.
Why are people mentioning /g/ ITT?
Don't they all browse reddit now? I mean, home/lockscreen threads are actually a thing there now.
>Sorry, shittier quality video for anime.
Oh look, the madVR propaganda machine is here once again.
You can tell the clear difference when half of the board doesn't know a single language.
>Watching anime with madvr and frame blending.
As mentioned, I'm watching anime on a HTPC (still a mac though) and a projector.
They might be basic, but I just enjoy that once utorrent downloads my shit, they can push it to a script for renaming, sort it into the appropriate folder, refresh xbmc library and send a notification for me that the ep is available for watching.
And Omnifocus is pretty far from a simple todo list, but if you don't have to manage 10+ projects with 40+ people, you'll never understand
>but if you don't have to manage 10+ projects with 40+ people,
Oh, you're such a busy go getter!
What are you doing on the NEET board, faggot?
>Don't they all browse reddit now? I mean, home/lockscreen threads are actually a thing there now.
Sadly, you're correct.
>What are you doing on the NEET board, faggot?
This isn't /jp/, faggot.
Have you never seen a buyfag thread?
>No-cost software and proven results
>My computer runs it fine when using it through emulation, but I've rarely had to with dual-boot.
Runs what fine? POSIX?
You do realize the CLI is a user interface right?
You also realize Linux has a GUI, it's called Xorg + a DE/WM.
>with a clusterfuck of distros
There is actually really only 9 distros. Everything else is just basically the same exact thing as one of these internally, or a specialized distro for a specialized purpose, or just plain irrelevant. (e.g. Pyramid linux, for embedded systems)
Debian, Ubuntu (Significantly different enough fork of Debian), Fedora, RHEL, Gentoo, OpenSUSE, Arch, Slackware. That's it, and even then the world of linux can be boiled down mainly to Debian or Redhat.
>and incompatible drivers
I've only seen this problem on Windows. Never once saw hardware that wouldn't work with linux, but for example I've dealt with Windows8 machines that did not have NIC drivers for Windows7 though. Essentially making it a useless brick if Windows7 stays on it.
> If the linux community wants to win over people, lets start with improving the user experience for everyone, not just CS professionals.
Been happening forever now.
Macs are PCs.
>because I can also run VNs that caused issues for Win users.
Feel when something works in Wine and someone can't get it running on Windows.
>Oh, look. Facts.
Awesome, enjoy your shitty quality.
>As mentioned, I'm watching shit quality!
I bet you even throw it on a wall.
>They might be basic, but I just enjoy that once utorrent downloads my shit, they can push it to a script for renaming, sort it into the appropriate folder, refresh xbmc library and send a notification for me that the ep is available for watching.
There are programs on both windows and linux that do the same exact thing. It isn't even the first program of its kind, let alone the exclusive one for its functionality. This is beyond stupid.
>but if you don't have to manage 10+ projects with 40+ people, you'll never understand
Here's 11 other alternatives, some of which by the description actually has more functionality while others are lighter and less resource intensive. You can find an option better in either flavor, functionality or resource use.
Saying something is a fact doesn't turn it into a fact.
Macs sure create a lot of butthurt
>They might be basic, but I just enjoy that once utorrent downloads my shit, they can push it to a script for renaming, sort it into the appropriate folder, refresh xbmc library and send a notification for me that the ep is available for watching.
The fuck did I read? Why can't it just download normally, a little pop-up box says it's done, and you watch it.
typical windows user writes 'lol'
It's because the supporters are just mindless drones who can't even express a single feature that makes them worth owning.
If they had even a single fucking point, at least we could just agree to disagree. But it's such a horrible company, designed entirely to milk money out of morons by providing an extremely overpriced service.
Can't see the support for perspectives which is the key feature in Omnifocus for me
>who can't even express a single feature that makes them worth owning.
Nothing wrong with libass.
>I can do the shit I want from Linux inside OS X since OS X is UNIX and I can just easily install POSIX software
OSX is Unix, but not all Linux software works on OSX. They are different systems.
>I can just use WINE.
Wine, not WINE, and you probably can get it running on Wine.
A fucking search tool? I'm afraid you're going to have to explain what makes this garbage even worth installing, let alone spending double the price on a computer for.
>A fucking search tool?
It's not a "fucking search tool". Use Google.
I have a Windows PC and Mac. They both suck.
Chromebooks are the future as soon as some Chinese hacker makes it open source.
Madvr is objectively the best way to process images for videos, denying it as such is just feigned or real ignorance.
I doubt lifehacker summarize them completely, and perspectives sounds like just a term that would be swapped out in different programs for legal issues. But if you're paying several hundred dollars for an inferior product just so you can use a glorified to-do list, then I have no words for you.
This is the one not-so exclusive program that is apparently worth all that money.
It just looks like a search tool on your desktop. I seriously don't get it, I can set up any of a million different solutions to have a window containing all my most used shortcuts, or create key combos for opening applications.
Do you know what a "fact" is?
>Using a keyboard shortcut chosen by the user, Alfred provides a quick way to find and launch applications and files on the Mac or to search the web both with predefined keywords for often-used sites such as Amazon.com, IMDB, Wikipedia and many others, with the ability to add users' custom searches for the sites most applicable to them. In its free version it also serves as a calculator, spell-checker and a convenient interface for controlling the Mac with system commands
So this exclusive program allows you to search things on your computer, the internet, create keybinds, and gives you a fucking calculator and spellchecker.
Amazing. Definitely worth the money.
I'm looking forward on replacing muh ThinkPad X200 with the 2014 rMBP 13"
why can't they just make newer thinkpads instead of crapping on it
Because those who like Apple products are usually mentally challenged.
For instance, a friend of mine decided to spend all his savings to get an iPhone 5S.
It's not a matter of boycotting, but rather a matter of common sense. I wouldn't buy something so overpriced when there are other products which do the same thing for like half their price.
But I got myself a nice iPod classic. Feels good to have a whole music library in your pocket.
You should refer to MODS MODS MODS.
Mac users don't really have a lot of content, so exclusive search apps are about as good as it gets. So you can search through your empty hard-drive.
I don't think you know what madvr does.
I really did laugh out loudly at your stupidity
>It just looks like a search tool on your desktop.
Look harder and you'll see why it's great for productivity.
What fucking productivity? What the fuck are you doing all day? Writing your goddamn novel in Starbucks?
Notepad is great for productivity.
Notepad is great for getting users off Windows.
Aside from a select few fanatics, /g/ only likes OSX because it's better than Windows and relatively "closer" to being linux.
I want to use GCC, NFS, bash, ssh, OpenVPN server, Openbox, tint2, thunar/caja, rtorrent/rutorrent, Apache + PHP/MySQL, Unix-like file permission system, standardized disk encryption with dm-crypt/LUKS, Xen, Gedit that doesn't look/work like shit, software that actually works with the command line, Deadbeef, proper GTK/qt/icon/font customization, a package manager.
No, coding in my room.
Enjoy your hunched back.
Why can't you just get a tablet or some shit?
Macs cannot be riced, don't support NTFS, don't support Windows programs, interface looks hideous.
Windows, on the other hand...
I'm watching a video overviewing Alfred because I seriously can't believe you morons will defend it to this extent.
>It can search your files.. It can search your apps.. It can do custom web searches..
I'm still fucking waiting for something, and I'm 1/4th of the way through the video.
gcc and emacs.
Then get to the part when it goes through file organisation.
Okay, wow. I fucking got to it at minute 4:40.
That's it? Fucking really?
Forget reading visual novels, fuck watching anime, and who needs videogames?
It's called fucking Launchy on windows, and it's the same exact shit. Oh my fucking god, you retards know no bounds.
Is even worse?
OSX has read access to NTFS too btw.
You want to talk about file-system support and Windows? Now that's a joke. Here, try this flashdrive formatted to anything other than FAT* or NTFS, like ext4 or btrfs. Wait, you mean Windows only supports two filesystems?
I've never actually seen a consumer product use something other than FAT or NTFS.
That's probably because of how ubiquitous windows is on pc.
Okay, I'll listen to you since you're such an expert. After all, you watched ALMOST FIVE ENTIRE MINUTES of an introduction video to Alfred.
Fuck me and my years of using Windows and Launchy.
Pft, this guys voice. Are all mac users homos?
>I'm going to pay several hundred dollars more for inferior hardware so I can use this specific quick launch software
>Launchy is bad!
How was it any different, and if it was, there are about 20 different alternatives to try before dropping >$100 for a mac.
Launchy is only usable for launching applications. That's it. You get shit when you try to search files let alone interact them in any meaningful way.
And then not to forget everything else you can do with Alfred.
>Forget reading visual novels
Wine, if not compatible with wine it will work in a VM. There's also been a few VNs ported to Linux/OSX through rlvm and onscripter. Notably Tsukihime, and some Key games like Clannad work natively.
>fuck watching anime
Even you know you're joking.
>who needs videogames?
Native steam games, native non-steam games, emulators for consoles, and gaming through Wine. There's games that won't work through Wine, and oh well. Yes I realize game devs do not care as much for Linux or OSX. Been getting better though as there's more push for devs to use OpenGL and cross-platform tools.
On Linux you can use Windows through Xen, which is a VM that can play very demanding 3D games with full compatibility. Xen is not easy to setup though.
You can format the drive and use whatever filesystem you want. I personally have an encrypted ext4 flashdrive I use.
I honestly don't fucking understand the purpose. Did your mouse break or something?
>Did your mouse break or something?
No wonder you don't understand.
>Launchy is only usable for launching applications
No, it isn't. It searches on the internet and on your local files. Programs do these things called updates.
>let's not forget everything else you can with Alfred
..keybinding? This is a big joke, right?
Oh boy, this is golden.
Seriously, why do you need to use a keyboard shortcut, type some bullshit, remember which operator actually extends the window you're using or whatever, then type that, to perform something as simple as extending a window?
Do macs not have mouse support?
Use homebrew to install mpv-player.
Also /a/ is pathetic.
That's the default, you kike.
>Even you know you're joking.
Image quality isn't really a joke, it's the most important thing in watching a video.
>a very small catalog of games in comparison to windows and choking your system's potential through emulators!
What kind of shit are you running through Wine? Minecraft?
>talking about Linux
I dual boot linux, we're talking about osx.
>You can use emulation and dual boot to do things you can't on the osx!
Or I can use the actual OS that accomplishes said things while osx offers nothing of value. There is no reason to buy a mac. I don't care if you just pirated osx and dual boot it with something else, but it seems pointless. It's negligent to buy an actual mac.
>You can format the drive
No shit, sherlock. I'm saying no one would ever run into a problem with file system compatibility on windows unless they're really trying by formatting store-bought drives to something like ext4.
As far as I can tell, the whole argument stems from the idea that running more than a couple of programs at the same time will make a mac lock up.
So they have to make all these pointless apps that just include the features from something that could simply be done with 2 or 3 applications on a real operating system.
Windows resizing is one thing that I don't use. But workflows can do much more, for which you'd have to do a lot of clicking.
Also, I prefer to use my mac with the trackpad to use gestures.
>create an OS
>it has serious usability issues
>third party creates programs to work around them
>Look at all these exclusive programs we have! They fix problems only our OS creates!
>There is no reason to buy a mac for me
Why are you jumping to Windows?
>buying a mac ever
Enjoy paying more for inferior specs.
BUT THEY HAVE AN EXCLUSIVE SEARCH APP.
DON'T YOU KNOW HOW GREAT THAT IS?
Enjoy being a specfag
There's no objective reason to buy a mac at all, it's extremely expensive in the short and long run, does less, and prohibits the user from doing basic things in the name or user-friendly experience.
4chan is 18+, guys. You shouldn't be here
OH MY GOD, A SEARCH APP?
Fucking hell m8, I'm taking out a loan on my house and buying ten of every apple product I can find.
There's no objective reason to not kill yourself.
At least it has a working search. Can't say the same for Windows.
>and long run.
I bought this mac 1,5 years ago and if I were to sell it and buy the new version with a bit better specs, it'd cost me 250 bucks tops. You don't pull that with custom-built shit.
>enjoy buying hardware for hardware's sake
Thanks, we will.
>jumping to Windows
But didn't you hear? I can maximize window sizes in Windows.
>to perform something as simple as extending a window?
I've not been following the conversation about whatever this OSX program does, but I'd just like to say that in Linux with normal WMs you can move the window by holding alt, clicking anywhere on the program's window, and them moving it around. To resize a window you can hold alt, right-click anywhere on a window, and resize it.
With windows you have to aim specifically for those little borders. This one feature has become second nature to me and I hate not having it.
>Image quality isn't really a joke, it's the most important thing in watching a video.
I agree. That's why I use either:
>What kind of shit are you running through Wine? Minecraft?
Minecraft natively runs on Linux, it's Java. I assumed you knew that though.
>a very small catalog of games in comparison to windows and choking your system's potential through emulators!
Good thing I barely use any Windows software at all, and when I do with what works with Wine, there's pretty much no slowdown because it's really a compatibility layer more than an emulator and what does work will often run just as fast.
>I'm saying no one would ever run into a problem with file system compatibility on windows unless they're really trying by formatting store-bought drives to something like ext4.
Or if some smug linux weenie gives you an ext4 drive. Ever thought about that?
>There is no reason to buy a mac
Hardware is good and the price is not unreasonable. No one else is putting high-resolution IPS matte screens like that in laptops. Great build quality, great trackpad, great battery life, etc.
Raw specs is certainly not what is most important when it comes to laptops.
It comes with another very mature search app too. It's just called "find".
Mac does not mean OSX.
No, you just buy the parts you need.
If I was to resell my graphics card and processor and buy new ones, I guarantee I'd be spending less. Of course, upgrading after a year and a half is something only a total moron like a mac owner would do.
>Can't say the same for Windows.
Really? Because I can.
>it'd cost me 250 bucks tops.
>You don't pull that with custom-built shit.
Are you fucking joking? There hasn't been enough change in same-level hardware in the past 1.5 years to warrant $250 of new hardware. That would jump an entire generation of graphic cards.
And you get it delivered to your doorstep, have renewed warranty for the whole stuff and continue exactly where you left of? I doubt that.
Swapping graphic cards were a fucking nightmare when I was on windows with the fucking gay-tier drivers.
>using branding as an argument
Dumbest tripfag alive.
>No one else is putting high-resolution IPS matte screens like that in laptops.
There's a reason for that. Putting an expensive screen in an inherently disposable piece of electronics is possibly the stupidest idea in the world.
Hell, I know a guy who is still using his old 24" CRT from 20 years ago in his current build.
>485 posts later
This thread still alive? Where are the mods?
But he didn't, he used resale value.
This is stupid even by the standards of this incredibly shit and embarrassing (for /a/) thread.
>Swapping graphic cards were a fucking nightmare
Absolute moron detected. I'm being totally honest here. You must either have no hands, or no brain.
It's a fucking screw and a clip.
Holy fuck, what.
Friendly reminder that laptops and computers are dying.
We should be discussing tablets instead, in which case Apple is far from the best.
You've got to be kidding.
These are the fuckers who bitch about VLC not having good enough upscaling and shit?
Please just admit you're trolling, and I won't cap what you wrote and repost it whenever appropriate.
As in software drivers, mang, not the physical ones
>Swapping graphic cards were a fucking nightmare
Apple users confirmed for being retarded.
You keep confusing different arguments with others, I suggest you learn to read posts.
>I agree that's why I use either this inferior workaround that is the equivalent of ducktape, or this one!
madvr isn't only upscaling.
>I assumed you knew about minecraft.
I don't play shitty games, that's probably why you're content using osx. The actual game title didn't matter, I was trying to get my point across with how low resource intensive the game is.
>what does work will often run just as fast.
That's just incorrect. In fact, earlier someone complained about running photoshop through wine on linux.
Anyway, here's a list of things that run on Wine: you'll notice not every game is on it, and videogames are notoriously bad on Wine. http://appdb.winehq.org/
>or if some smug linux weenie gives you an ext4 drive. Ever thought about that?
No, because I've never met someone who would seriously use an ext4 drive. There is no tangible benefit.
>Price is not unreasonable
>Mac does not mean OSX.
See, in that thread of conversation, we're discussing buying a physical Mac rather than custom building a PC and using windows/linux.
>mac is shit because it doesn't have MadVR so image quality is shit
>it's stupid to use a better screen with twice the resolution and better color-profile
Fucking decide it already
Ah, look at the idiots. A decent old CRT can still do 1600x1200 resolution. With better color reproduction than most LCDs. I think he's moving to 1440p on his next upgrade, though.
You uninstall, reinstall, reboot. How is it hard? It's a bit of a hassle, but you only have to do it once every 3-5 years.
The point is that the windows computer their parents forced on them is the best.
>And you get it delivered at your doorstep?
Every piece of hardware in my computer is under warranty with the manufacturer.
>continue exactly where you left off?
After I install it.
>swapping graphic cards were a fucking nightmare
It's ridiculously simple, and if you have driver issues then you fucking suck at life. Go to the manufacturer's website and download their latest drivers. There should be no problem when you're using windows for installing a new graphics card. Linux was notorious for being bad with nvidia and shit, but not windows.
mac do have better techsupport
>A decent old CRT can still do 1600x1200 resolution.
Too bad no resolution will look decent on a CRT.
Everyone shut the fuck up and go watch your chinese cartoons. At the end of the day we all know Windows PC's are the best and most versatile computers.
When in doubt, refer to the majority and guess what? Windows holds the largest market share, so you Linuxfags and Macfags can eat shit.
Sure is anime in here.
Says the guy who is probably watching 24 FPS anime on a 60hz screen.
>Mac laptops are the only thing with high resolution and better color-profile because it has Retina Display(tm)
Retina isn't even 4K.
>You uninstall, reinstall, reboot. How is it hard?
Way too hard for the average Apple user.
Which has what to do with laptops?
Oh, right, you're an idiot. Enjoy having your retardation remembered every time someone bitches about VLC.
>At the end of the day we all know Windows PC's are the worst and most locked down computers.
>When in doubt, refer to the majority and guess what?
So, we shouldn't watch Chinese cartoons?
I hope you're joking, or you're just further cementing my stereotype of mac users being morons when it comes to hardware.
I think you mean underaged...
you better sell that shit and get a real computer
I'm saying that the very concept of buying a laptop with an expensive screen is beyond retarded. At least with a desktop, you can re-use your retarded retina display. Even though you can get the same fucking panel for 400 bucks from Korea.
Not that guy, but what device do you think anime is intended to be watched at? Maybe, MAYBE, a television?
You could try to argue that Windows is the worst, but Apple's walled garden is the most locked down on consumers.
>you must use terminal to remove our first party software
>I failed at basic reading and comprehension
>When in doubt, refer to the majority
Facebook is good, guys.
So is Naruto
>bitch about how macs are too expensive
>"just get a laptop AND a desktop"
This is too fun.
We're not only talking about laptops, you fucking moron. Why do you need a laptop? For movability right? You can use a fucking tablet for the same shit you're going to be doing "on the go!" and get a real PC to get shit done.
>Putting an expensive screen in an inherently disposable piece of electronics is possibly the stupidest idea in the world.
I don't see why it's stupid. It's not stupid to me at all. They're not even that expensive. An IPS monitor with similar resolution like some of the Dell Ultrasharps can cost $1000 themselves. When you look at Apple selling rMBPs for a bit over a $1000 it's really not that bad.
These are for people who want the best laptops.
>Hell, I know a guy who is still using his old 24" CRT from 20 years ago in his current build.
I can see going CRT master race so long as you have a modern monitor next to it.
I wish. Get all the damn casuals off desktops/laptops, the core userbase will become more relevant them, and software trends pandering to them is sure as hell a lot better.
>madvr isn't only upscaling.
I know. What's your point? It's just a renderer. By the way VDPAU also does GPU based decoding if you want.
>The actual game title didn't matter, I was trying to get my point across with how low resource intensive the game is.
Would it surprise you if I told you I can run Crysis2 through Wine?
>Anyway, here's a list of things that run on Wine: you'll notice not every game is on it, and videogames are notoriously bad on Wine.
I am well aware not everything runs on Wine. I have been sure to mention that many times.
>No, because I've never met someone who would seriously use an ext4 drive. There is no tangible benefit.
Let's see, better read/write performance, FAT can't handle files bigger than 4GB, works with dm-crypt/LUKS, ext4 is a better choice than ntfs for Linux systems.
>That's just incorrect.
>In fact, earlier someone complained about running photoshop through wine on linux.
Because photoshop doesn't work very well with Wine, if you even get it running. I'll reiterate.
"what does work will often run just as fast."
>You can use a fucking tablet for the same shit
Can I code on a tablet?
It would still be less expensive. You can get a tablet or laptop for $200, build a "gaming" computer for $700, and it'd still be cheaper than the cheapest mac laptop.
It'd also be better in the long run.
You don't type "on the go?"
You can buy a decent desktop and a cheap notebook for less than half the price of a mac.
>An IPS monitor with similar resolution like some of the Dell Ultrasharps can cost $1000 themselves.
The issue here is that the actual panels are way cheaper. Korean manufacturers put the exact same shit in a cheap case for under 500 bucks.
>get a tablet or laptop for $200
This is horrible.
Don't forget SAO
To be fair having both a desktop and a laptop is much better than having a mac.
Throw on a detachable keyboard for $50, and you are good to go.
And not really, I don't need my computer at my waist.
>It'd also be better in the long run.
What the fuck are you doing on the go that's so important? Maybe you need to sort your fucking life out.
>Throw on a detachable keyboard for $50, and you are good to go.
I didn't know detachable keyboards compile code.
>be a faggot and use twitter
>anything on the internet
What would you need to do outside of your room that a basic tablet or laptop couldn't?
Not that guy but I'm reading my hentai and mango
>talking about e-waste
Literally kill yourself, you retarded pile of shit.
Both of which can be done on the cheapest laptop around. Learn to read.
>What would you need to do outside of your room that a basic tablet or laptop couldn't?
Run Photoshop and process raw images.
Having a user experience that doesn't make me want to pull my hair?
Cheap chink tablets are beyond terrible, Nexus 7 is where it's starting to be usable
He is worried that his macfag friends will bully him when he goes to a cafe.
It's not a good fit for a lot of people. Some people just want a desktop replacement.
Write latex? Or run some regressions?
You can't wait until you get home, buddy?
Don't cut yourself on that edge
>There should be no problem when you're using windows for installing a new graphics card. Linux was notorious for being bad with nvidia and shit, but not windows.
Nvidia is the one that works the best with Linux. Their proprietary drivers are equal/better than Windows. AMD is the one that is worse. How well graphic drivers perform on Linux:
Nvidia proprietary > AMD proprietary > AMD free > Nvidia free
If you're wondering why Linux flipped nvidia off, it had to do with not being friendly to the open-source developers. Not that their proprietary drivers sucked.
>When in doubt, refer to the majority and guess what? Windows holds the largest market share, so you Linuxfags and Macfags can eat shit.
I'll go listen to my Justin Beiber and watch that honeybooboo show now, maybe drink a Coors light. They're very popular.
Guess you're just a moron, then.
You can do that on a fucking phone with a decent screen size.
>process raw images
Why? Do you need to be at the nearest coffee shop? Do you not know that usb drives exist to take data from home to work?
If that's really the case, it's still cheaper to buy a non-apple laptop to do the same shit.
Because I don't take pictures at home.
>Some people just want a desktop replacement.
Fair enough, is this why shitty gaming laptops are popular?
You're not even trolling, you're just making yourself look like a total moron. People aren't responding because they're mad, they're responding because they want to help you be less of an imbecile.
So pretty much all the anti-apple arguments boil down to the "but omg it's so expunsive muh parents won't buy it for me" crap and some myth that's so false only people who never even touched osx would believe.
Wonderful, I expected no less of /a/
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On excel? You're fucking joking, right?
>being bad with nvidia must mean he's referring to issues you'd only have with nvidia's proprietary drivers
Surprise, it doesn't.
>Because I don't take pictures at home.
With a camera where you store them and can then go home to edit them right? Unless you're out in sub saharan Africa taking pictures of lions and cleaning them up for NG on the fly, this shouldn't be an issue.
I'm honestly kind of surprised by how emotional they are about it.
Just stop. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
Don't tell me apple fags have invaded /a/
>so basically it only boils down to paying more for a device that does less but has gimmicky marketing terms
Thanks for proving my point.
Not particularly, no. It's still silly that you're going to buy something like that for mere placebo.
There is no point in doing quantitative data analysis on a laptop, dumbass. You obviously don't need to do it on the go, and it isn't impossible on any regular laptop. Students use excel to run that shit.
I hope you don't refer to the display.
No one has explained what they need a mac for yet, or why its worth so much more. Still waiting. Oh! There was a quick launch program though.
>I can't say any laptop that's better in that sector
>lack of videogames
>requiring dual boot to watch anime with madvr
>requiring emulation to play VNs
Basically you buy an OS to use programs that work around the fact that you're using that OS.
I thought I told you to stop?
>There is no point in doing quantitative data analysis on a laptop, dumbass.
Except for homework, research, etc, etc
>You obviously don't need to do it on the go,
Except when you have two hours in between class and need to do it on the go
>and it isn't impossible on any regular laptop.
which wasn't the question.
>Morons like me use excel to run that shit.
If display quality is actually what you need, you wouldn't be buying a laptop.
There are almost no high-PPI desktop monitors.
To be honest I think gaming laptops are much worse than macbooks and I don't really like macs.
>>requiring dual boot to watch anime with madvr
mpv is fine. Hell, even VLC 2.1 is pretty good.
Refer to >>101391692
I have a ps3 and ps4 for gaming and emulation is not even visible then I play VNs. I just click the game's icon on the dock
>I can't do homework in my room.
>I can't do research in my room.
>Except when you have two hours in between class
Good thing your tablet or laptop can do it.
>which wasn't the question
>What would you need to do outside of your room that a basic tablet or laptop couldn't?
>I use R or Statistica
Which can run on any fucking laptop.
Again, why do you need a $1000 mac laptop?
What's the matter? 2incredible4u?
>I have a ps4 for gaming
So you're a fucking idiot who just likes wasting money.
Sane people don't like throwing money in the toilet.
How long does the battery last during gaming? 20 minutes?
step it up to desktop masterace XDDDDDd
>For more than 30 years, only the most hardcore enthusiasts were able to take advantage of PC customizability. Convoluted hardware made it insane for the average person: knowing what does what, what works with what, and how to connect the pieces.
You must've mislinked me, because I know you're not trying to argue that you don't care about madvr when watching anime since you'll barely notice it on your laptop, which you are apparently buying for its display.
>I have a ps3 and ps4 for gaming
So you don't like playing games? Got it. Good to know you don't play most of the good games out there, really gives you perspective on the videogame catalog aspect.
I'm not going to link you to every fucking desktop monitor that has 3840x2400 resolution.
The game I spent the most time with in the last half year is a fucking browser game.
ASUS doesn't mention it.
>mpv is fine
Gee, I wonder why
mpv + VDPAU/opengl-hq > MPC-HC
Must be too INCREDIBLE to mention.
I bet most of the people crying about MadVR use a 22-24" uncalibrated TN-panel shit for a monitor.
Where's your smooth motion? Jinc3+AR / nnedi3 scaling? Proper subtitle rendering?
Disgusting, I have no respect for anyone who buys shit like that.
First, you need to choose whether you're arguing that you don't need to use a laptop or whether you do, but should use a shit laptop + desktop. You're arguing both right now.
The first is just false, and the second is wrong both because it's doubtful that a $200 laptop will work well for anything, really, and also because many people don't want to also have a desktop, for any number of reasons.
The rest follows, whether you like it or not.
There's no reason to buy a laptop without an SSD.
Besides running every multiplat game better with better graphics and better online support, I'll just say every single entry in the RTS genre, and what I've played this week alone like Europa Universalis or Civ series: CS, Banner Saga, Starbound, Wasteland 2, Football Manager, Risk of Rain, and I loaded up Quake earlier this week.
>animated on 2s and 3s
>m-muh smooth motion
Here's a basic tier list for you to understand.
Custom desktop>Custom desktop+cheap laptop>Half-decent laptop>>>>>>>>>>>Prebuilt PC>>>>>>>>Apple garbage=gamer garbage
Pans and zooms are 24 fps.
>First you need to..
I don't. I don't think anyone really needs a laptop, but if you want one for convenience sake then cheap laptop + desktop is better than just expensively shit laptop.
>First is just false.
>Second is wrong because it's doubtful that a $200 laptop will work well for anything
That's objectively wrong. A $200 laptop will work fine for any the uses presented, you just need to learn how to take care of your fucking computer, which you probably don't considering you own a mac.
The only one it would have issue with would be heavy image editing like someone mentioned above. You're fucking phone can write latex, and for convenience sake you can throw on a removable qwerty keyboard.
>Where's your smooth motion?
Built in. It makes your 4 key frames per second anime interpolated to 24fps look like it's being played back at 60 frames per second.
>Jinc3+AR / nnedi3 scaling?
Where's your vdpau scaling?
>Proper subtitle rendering?
>A $200 laptop will work fine for any the uses presented
A $200 won't work fine for anything since that's the same amount of money you should put in your laptop's SSD.
>in a laptop
You're beyond retarded. Seriously, a 10 dollar laptop from a garage sale will do everything you could realistically need.
>won't work fine for anything
But it will, for word processing (like writing latex), basic data crunching, watching videos without things like madvr which you're probably already used to, and browsing the internet.
You really don't seem to understand this concept of removable memory.
>You really don't seem to understand this concept of removable memory.
How will that help when traditional HDDs are crap for boot disks? Seriously, if you still use a HDD as a boot disk, you are doing this wrong.
Why not just eat food you find in a dumpster while you're at it.
Oh my god
Using an HDD to boot basic windows without bloatware and for the shit I mentioned would be fine, you really don't know shit about hardware apparently if you think using a basic HDD for that shit is a problem.
I bet you still fucking pay for food, don't you? I live a block away from a pizza place, and they throw out a couple of pizzas a night. It's practically fucking refrigerated for me overnight, and then I pick it up in the morning and eat that shit.
>Using an HDD to boot basic windows without bloatware and for the shit I mentioned would be fine
No, it's shit. Clearly you've never used an SSD if you think HDD is fine for anything but mass storage.
Oh, so pray tell how you enable it.
>Where's your vdpau scaling?
Want to do comparison between your vdpau and nnedi3 at 1920x1080?