A while back today, there was a thread about Hitler being a servant. In that thread, there was some discussion on Link being a servant. I decided to photoshop in some stats for Link, based on what I think he'd be like. I only managed to finish the first stat page for Saber Link before the thread died, so I'd like to post Saber Link, Berserker Link, and Archer Link. Please tell me what you think, and if there's anything I should change. My editing of the noble phantasms is especially shitty, because everything on the page in the VN was integrated, so shopping it was outside my skills. Saber and Archer are mostly Link to the Past with some Ocarina of time mixed in. Berserker Link is from Majora's Mask. Anyway, I'll be dumping Saber Link first.
I think Link would have a higher riding stat.
You're making him way too weak..
just wait for the noble phantasms...
>Link's Noble Phantasms
I swear to god, if a bottle isn't one of them
I'm sorry, I thought being to completely recover and revive from death 4 times (yes, I know about hercules) was overpowered, and it isn't in all of the games anyway, so... Perhaps I'll put them in if enough people want me to.
>D rank magic
I'd say at least C rank.
Thus concludes saber link. Perhaps I did make him a bit too weak... I made add in bottles later. I also might make the mirror shield reflect higher rank magics.
Strength seems too high, unless you're considering the Goron gloves.
Magical energy should be C.
What are you basing his luck from? Seems way too high.
What is the point of this?
Most servants are not (supposed to be) evil.
Link could be summoned for Rider or Archer, but those were never his strong points in the games. So Saber is his best. Which means that others would be even weaker than what you've already posted.
Not sure EX is appropriate. Doesn't seem superior to Excalibur really. A+ seems fine.
Holy shit at all this autism. Almost as bad as those fanfictions
Gah, meant to quote this.
Yes, strength is that way because of the power bracelet. Same way with agility, due to the pegasus boots.
>what is the point of this?
>most servants are not supposed to be evil
Quite a few in the VN have an evil alignment, and that's all that matters, alignment.
And the luck stat? I don't remember Link ever being lucky in the games, unless you count being the chosen hero as "luck".
Quite a few in the aforementioned Hitler thread seemed to agree with me.
Could you say Saber was ever lucky? She has B. Lucky just seems to fit Link, I can't explain it. I may lower it, but I doubt it.
While I admire your effort, this is approaching bad fanfiction-levels of autism.
If /a/ will not tolerate my autism, where will I go?
I just wanna go ahead and point out that the spin attack would not be considered a noble phantasm. It'd be a skill, like Tsubami Gaeshi.
Are you joking? It was autism from the very first post. Really though, judging from the fact there's also an archer and rider version with the same horrible upscaled Link images it surpasses 4chan tier autism and becomes actual, clinical, CWC-tier autism.
I mean seriously, what the fuck.
When I saw Tsubami Gaeshi, I also thought that, but then I realized how much fucking work editing the fucking noble phantasm page was, and decided it simply wasn't worth changing it.
Biggest pain in the ass in all of this was the noble phantasm page, easily.
Yeah, I mean from the start. Everything about this is near-god-tier levels of autism.
Who in their right mind would bother doing this? And with who would be a boring-as-fuck servant no less.
This concludes Archer Link. Even if nobody is even paying attention anymore, I'd might as well finish my autism.
Don't bully OP ;_;
He tried hard, which shames me as a non-try-hard-person, and I must insult his effort and demean him to feel better about myself.
That's more Caster territory, isn't it?
That's not a fucking alignment.
Other classes can use magic.
I thought I understand the stigma of autism on /a/, but I guess I was wrong.
Yeah but typically not as their primary noble phantasm.
But why, OP?
What the fuck is this /v/ermin garbage doing here. Why.
Obviously I'm a Zelda fan. It's interesting to mold Links from different games together. It's really interesting to make made-up servants and see how they compare to "real" ones. I went overboard with the photoshopping. What I really wanted was input. As cheesy as it sounds, instead I got labeled.
Fuck it, just skipping to last one. All of berserker Link's abilities are the same.
why dont you fuck off back to wherever you came from
That's not Saber, that's Zelda.
>I went overboard with the photoshopping
I couldn't keep going after this. Thanks for the laugh man.
Nice try, but that's too old to work, or /a/ is full of even more newfags than I thought.
Madness would prevent him from changing masks, I think. He'd be stuck with just Fierce Deity.
In Fate/Zero, Lancelot was had enough cognizance to pick up items and form them into weapons. Putting on and taking off masks is simple enough.
There's a difference between "pick up big thing, swing" and "which mask is best for this situation?"
But he puts thought into how to change the weapon.
Besides, there's only 4 masks. One of them involves water, and if it's not clear when to use that one, then fuck me silly. Deku mask would never get used, goron mask would be used for raw strength, which, again, would be so obvious I think even berserker Link would know when to do it. Fierce diety would probably be activated whenever there was any danger at all.
I was thinking that Link would probably just switch masks at random, since he's insane.
I don't give a shit, that's still not a fucking alignment, I don't care how many examples you can give me.
It's an alignment in fate, that's all that is really important even if it's retarded.
The point is that he's fucking insane and doesn't have an alignment.
Everyone has a fucking alignment, that's why they exist. That nigga would probably be chaotic neutral or chaotic evil.
"insane" is a god damned personality trait, not an alignment.
He would be able to switch masks, but only with a command spell. Otherwise he'd be stuck, ideally with the Fierce Diety mask.
Go back to deviantart, you fucking faggot.
While I appreciate the effort, I just wish you had done with with someone more interesting than Link. He doesn't even have any space/time/destiny manipulation or anything, which is basically standard for any servant.
I sorta went overboard with the photoshopping too.
I don't really feel like doing the rest but I think this is a good start.
I think it's funny how /a/ claims to be "so ronery, nobody understand me and my chinese cartoons, they make fun of me because they think i am a le nerd, lol, fuck off to reddit casuals"
Yet, they hate "autism".
Don't worry, I''ll be out soon.
Akari~n as assassin class. Make it work /a/.
Come on guy, it's lawful evil.
Are you trying to make me mad with those paint skills? Jesus Christ.
>pure aryan race
>Pure Aryan Race
Who? Why'd you post a picture of hearts anon?
>presence concealment: EX
The berserker class has no alignment. Everything thing they do is based on instinct. They are basically animals and animals have no alignment.
Animals are Neutral.
Is FHA still at 96.7%?
It's 100% translated. They're still checking all of the lines though, so the final patch isn't out.
That said, is this really the thread to be asking that? Most people just seem to want it to die.
Animals have alignments.
Stop being retarded.
After thinking about it a bit, I guess instincts would be consider neutral after all.
I admit that they are neutral, but you seem to be implying that they can have multiple alignments... I'm sure we can all agree that animals aren't good or evil
Far too high. He doesn't have a natural strength that's ever been boasted about. His feats of strength come from his tools, not himself.
>END, AGI, MGC, LCK
All very fair.
Actually low-balling him by at least a plus sign, but okay.
>Eternal Arms Mastership
...Fuck, that's actually impressive. No complaints.
>Eye of Mind (True)
You sold the Lens of Truth Short.
Nothing really overpowered, if he's Saber currently then of course he'd be in the form that the Master Sword was also in it's full form, and thus it's the sword of greatest legend.
It's not like his other NPs are really that broken so far anyway, so of course this would be the strongest as Saber.
Depending on the setting (IE D&D's "alignment is a tangible force and not a moral setting) animals can be aligned, unicorns are usually the prime example. Usually nature stuff is Neutral though, as are druids.
Animals can be chaotic or lawful.
Master sword in Hyrule at least is the sword of whom legends are told, the ray of hope that will always banish all darkness when evil reigns. It's almost hope itself in Hyrule where this sword is the Bane of All Evil.
The sword is also forged by gods or something probably, it is the master sword after all. It's all in the name.
>Eternal Arms Mastership
He literally just ripped the defining ability of another Servant, and it's not suitable at all for Link who only uses a sword or a handful of other tools.
>Not Fierce Diety Link
Although if it was then his stats would most likely be higher. Still he might or might not be a god at that point, but it's hard to say since he might just be Demi since he's a human wearing a mask.
Fierce Diety is probably EX
After all it's stronger than even Majora, and Majora can bring down the Mon upon the Earth with ease. Still it's an odd situation since Majora gives you the mask of the gods. Seems like Majora is a pretty big time curse that can destroy the world.
>No Independent Action
>Bombos, oh and the spin attack earlier
You're better off calling out his bag of holding as a Noble Phantasm, and setting his skills accordingly in the skill section. Things like the Gloves, Pegasus Boots, and other weapons that aren't the Shield and the Master Sword should be left without detail. Just saying he has a Bag of Holding should be enough. People have seen Link get around and act, that alone should be enough to make it valid as a point of fame for him.
The luck stat is defined as the ability for a person to overturn their fate. That's pretty much the core of Link's person and life.
Except OOT Link if you believe the MM=>TP Grief Theory, anyway.
>Implying you fuckers never did this before
>Implying this wasn't part and parcel of /jp/ before they lost their minds years ago
>Implying people haven't taken pen to paper in /tg/ to determine just these kinds of stats
Please, summer child. You try too hard.
Someone do this, I can't into photoshop
True Name - Sora
Class - Saber
Alignment - Neutral Good
N. Phantasm: EX
Battle Continuation: A+++
Double Summon: Saber & Caster
Magic Resistance: A
Synch Blade: A++
Noble Phantasm: Light & Darkness
Maximum Number Of Targets: N/A
Can use the essence of light and darkness from any source to change or improve attacks, can also unlock the light or darkness in anyone's hearts causing them to change alignment.
Noble Phantasm: Keyblade
Maximum Number Of Targets: 1
A weapon of light most effective against darkness, It can also be used to lock or unlock any lock. The Keyblade can also be used as a conduit to cast and enhance magic. It cannot be used by others without the owner’s permission and its appearance and abilities can be modified with Keychains before battle. In addition a second Keyblade can be used due to the Synch Blade skill.
>Stats not all E aside from LCK which is EX and MGI or NP
Guy's most notorious ability was getting lucky over and over again, until his luck finally ran out. The guy made some pretty shitty decisions that just kept working out somehow.
Holy shit, the autism gets deeper.
Christ's sake, anon.
Why isn't a thread like this on /v/ or something?
Fuck you don't mock my autism, i'm pretty sure nothing in there is wrong based on what i've seen.
Your problem is the how to justify Link as a Berserker. Think in the Nasu system, here.
Berserker is reserved for the heroes who are known to have gone bugfuck insane and gave in to sheer battle lust at one point. If you're doing Link as a Berserker, then it'd just BE the Fierce Deity Mask for him.
And the exchange on his stats would include skills like Monstrous Strength (at least rank B), Survival (Rank B), and that Mental Pollution skill that Gilles had to compensate for the fact nothing would be able to get through to his brain stem.
No, fuck off back to /v/ where this kind of autism is appreciated.
Except think carefully about the many things you're allowed to kick ass with in the games. If I could remember the exact youtube, I'd show you the speed run that involves Link killing Gohma with nothing more than a Deku Stick.
Eternal Arms Mastery in this case actually works. Whatever Link picks up, he can fight with. Even the masks.
Frankenstein is Berserker in Apocrypha, but she's not always in Berserker mode. Madness Enchant is something servants or masters can turn on and off as Ilya showed. Lancelot just kept it on all the time as atonement.
LInk would have a system similar to Frankenstein, as he turns it on when he puts on the mask and goes wild, and it turns off when the mask comes off.
That is perfectly within the system of Nasu here; it's exactly within the system by what we've seen before.
EX isn't appropriate. It has no excess charm to overcome conceptual reality itself. Though the sword puts Gannon in his place, it's usually higher arcane spells that end up sealing or resealing Gannon.
There is a difference in a being whose ability is invulnerability, and a being whose abilities are extreme levels of black sorcery. It's in the application. Link was able to deal with Majora with and without the Fierce Deity Mask. The power to summon a moon to drop on a town is irrelevant to that fact.
Back to livejournal with you.
While your effort is somewhat impressive, this hurts for me to look at, and while not quite /v/, and I don't feel it belongs on /a/ either.
Slightly justified. Though in this case it'd be that the mask itself is still the Noble Phantasm, and you would have to work out what stats are gained and lost with its activation.
Further, because it's an item and not the Master's discression that activate the Berserker state, it's likely three things are going to happen:
- He'll take a considerable (but not serious) stat hit while not in Fierce Deity Mode.
- Madness Enhancement as a class skill would be lost or undefined (-), similar to Li Shuwen in Fate/Extra not truly having Presence Concealment.
- You would, again, have to explicit mark the circumstances in which Link would be able to use that mask, keeping the spirit of LoZ and Fate in mind. That godly power wasn't available until bossfights. Greatest challenge, greatest danger, whatever the qualifications may be.
In sum total, Link actually makes for a very shitty Berserker. Kinda like how Gawain cant logically function at his best except in the Moon Cell's Holy Grail War.
Lots of monkeys go out of their way to be assholes. Even cats and dogs have varying personalities, stop being a baka.
Since Ganondorf was a hero of the Gerudo, could he be a Servant?