Which Madoka is softest?
Tough call. Sealdoka looks pretty soft but on the other hand Madoka's hair is probably fluffy like marshmallows.
I really wish I had a baby homuseal as a pet.
She's an otter.
You know what, I'm just gonna say it. I don't like Sealdoka.
Sealdoka and Homuotter 69ing. Sexy.
That should be obvious.
They're called megukas you ignorant sow.
You can only pick one.
Can i contract with kyubey to pick them all?
No, now pick one faggot, look at them all lined up for you, they all want you to choose them.
This guy knows.
>you should be able to solve this.
Fine, I pick Homu
Okay, here you go.
You can only pick one.
Why are mumi's mammies so delicious looking?
That's because you're a faggot.
Why is Kyouko about to fall over? Did she slip on an invisible banana peel?
I think she's failing a grapple check with Sayaka.
Momdoka. Not even a contest.
You've gone and done it now
She's trying to get out of the picture, you can see Sayaka holding her there.
Better question: Which Madoka is best to impregnate?
directed by christopher nolan
Oh boy it's Sayak
Same answer as before.
Sayaka has been improved upon.
Even loli Mumi is deliciously soft.
megucas can't get pregnant, everyone knows puella magi reproduce by nuzzling cheeks and then touching soul gems together. 9 months later kyubey brings them each a baby that looks identical to the other.
Too much Sayak now, posting more mumi-chan
>reproduce by nuzzling cheeks
This is even more lewd than holding hands.
>9 months later kyubey brings them each a baby that looks identical to the other.
The baby can't be "identical" to both of them
That image is heresy.
The only thing to comprehend there is your personal ineptitude
THIS IMAGE IS HERESY
Which meguka is the thuggest?
Who do you think?
It's entropy. I don't have to explain shit!
Homura and Kyoko.
Damn right. Magi fo' lyfe, yo.
Sayaka can beat any of them in a dance-off
I think you meant "suck-off", anon.
Jealously is unbecoming, anon.
All hail Mitakihara's Dance Queen
Well, she does look like she's fairly limber and accustomed to spreading her legs like that.
I just came back from watching the movie.
Damn, the transformation sequences alone were worth the $40 I paid.
What the hell? Did you pay for three seats?
called dokes u nerd
No, priority seating + poster/mini shiki/booklet
So what would you do with a gaggle of Homus?
Hide from them.
Take photographs with them and brag about how I hung out with Homus on /a/.
All of them.
B-but Homus belong to Madoka
Look at Mami, she loves it.
If I could have your attention for a moment, I'd like to post a picture of Homura playing whack-a-mole
Sic em on Madoka
Is... is this a metaphor
Thank you for your time
What about the other three?
I'm sure Madoka is the type to share.
W-WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN AGAIN?
So I just came back from Rebellion.
Why is Homu such a bitch?
>Which Madoka is softest?
Youmu if she were a maguca
Ok. How about a flock of Mumis?
I only paid $13 for my showing, and ended up selling the board I got for $70
The way that corset is drawn makes Youmu look fat. This displeases me.
Some retard bought your board for $70?
>What about the other three?
Put in the appropriate recycling bins?
She might be alone, but at least she has herself
What's next, a congress of Sayakas?
Call me when you've got a drove of Sayaks
they still playing it?
There's plenty of Sayaka left to go around, so yeah.
You'll never guess where I sold it either.
Sure, why not?
One Sayak is already too many.
You can never have enough Sayaks.
Whoever edited this forgot to remove Kyoko's tooth.
Anyway, why does Madoka's eyes look blank?
One of those Mamis is horribly under-nourished, she'd deflated.
That's hilarious. How does that make you sayakafags feel? Granted the nips normally have shit taste.
One of those Mamis is Homura
Mumi gangrape mindbreak. It was videotaped and sold through discreet channels. How else do you think Mumi affords that apartment and all that cake?
The pachinko game, which also adds this to Homura's arsenal.
That image isn't new. It used to piss of Sayakafags but they don't care about it now. I remember posting it and getting five+ angry responses. Doesn't work anymore unfortunately. Also nips have good taste in megucas since they love them all.
Or maybe someone lost their mammies.
I didn't figure it to be new. I've been trying to avoid most meguka threads for a while, however. Trying not to be spoilered about Rebellion and I've been trying to hold out for the BD rip.
Why do you try to get people riled up? That's not nice.
Homura confirmed for leader of the air force.
Blame Sayakafags for being so easy to bait. You literally just call her a bitch and they start white knighting.
That doesn't answer my question.
>why do go out of your way to upset people
Are you new to not only /a/, not only 4chan, but the internet in general?
Because 4chan, easy/gullible targets, and a plentiful amount of them.
Well, she isn't a slut, so she probably was able choose the father. Unlike others
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. You should try to be nice to people.
So what's going to happen now? Are they going to make a season 2?
>You should try to be nice to people.
Where's the fun in that?
there's another one tomorrow
Virtue is its own reward?
>You should try to be nice to people.
>not terribly desperate for any companionship
>Virtue is its own reward?
That's a shitty reward.
You see there is a big difference between those two terms.
I actually tried to make peace with Sayakafags before. But then just just told me to fuck off and started calling Homura a bitch. So fuck them. /sp/ Kyokobros are the best though.
>and started calling Homura a bitch
Well, she fucked over the other megucas in Rebellion, what do you expect?
Doujins say otherwise!
What does a soul gem taste like? Does the taste differ between the megukas?
fucked them over with their restored, happy lives and friendships?
This was way before Rebellion. Also, Homrua didn't fuck anyone over except Kyubey and possibly Madoka. It depends on how you look at it.
>that one taking a bath in the teacup
That's too cute. Cute enough that I ignored the headless mini mumi and the mumi about to be fed to charlotte.
Now that's just silly. That sort of thinking will only lead to an endless cycle of vindictive shitposting. I know you don't actually think that's reasonable.
>letting homura AND kyoko taste her soul
sayaka a slut, only kyoko should be doing that
Do you really have to ask?
>fucked them over with their restored, happy lives and friendships?
Homu said herself earlier in the movie, to try to artificially create an ideal world is squandering Madoka's gift.
I get season 2 ending will be four meguca vs Homu-devil
>endless cycle of vindictive shitposting.
This is the way it will always be. It's not reasonable, certainly not. But it's the only way we can do things. I'd be damned before I accept to someone else's interpretation of Rebellion, or anyone else's taste in megucas. Mine is the only one that makes sense. Everyone else is retarded (accept those who agree with me).
>all that lardfat
enjoy your landwhale
Please break in half.
Such is the /a/ way, no such is the way of all of 4chan
And so sayeth anon. As it was, is, and shall be. Forever "my taste > your taste". Amen.......faggot.
That's a sad way to look at things, anon. You should try a more positive outlook from time to time. Plenty of people are willing to be reasonable if you just give them a chance.
>Homu said herself earlier in the movie, to try to artificially create an ideal world is squandering Madoka's gift.
homura is bonkers now, I have no idea why she thinks she did a bad thing. She saved Madoka from existing outside the universe, so she can just be normal and happy now. She didn't break the law of cycles, or ruin anything.
Can't stop the Homu
Rot in hell, you little shit.
She did, actually, literally speaking, "break" the Law of Cycles.
She's a clumsy pumpkin, she said it herself
>She didn't break the law of cycles, or ruin anything.
You can't honestly believe that tampering with things as she did will have no consequences whatsoever, do you?
Don't mind those with lesser tastes. I bet her lap pillow would be the softest and comfiest of all the megukas.
>homura is bonkers now, I have no idea why she thinks she did a bad thing. She saved Madoka from existing outside the universe, so she can just be normal and happy now. She didn't break the law of cycles, or ruin anything.
But that's not what Madoka wants. Madoka wants to be with Moemura in yuri heaven, that's why she was brading her hair on the grass field. Homu won't accept that, so she ended up doing exactly the same thing as Homulilly did with her labyrinth with the new world.
Oh Mami, you died as you lived; morbidly obese.
Normally I'm strictly a DFC-fag. But Mumi does funny things to my penis.
inb4 "Stop masturbating to me" image.
Man Madoka is short.
Pretty sure she's crouching.
I think she's just slouched a bit and has her knees bent in that image. But even taking that into consideration, yeah. It does seem like she's a bit shorter than the other girls.
That's not really 'bad' so much as it is kinda selfish. She wants to have madoka on her own terms, in accordance with her original wish to be someone madoka can depend on for protection.
>go get drink
Oops, didn't notice that. Still, standing up she'd be at like what, neck height to Sayaka?
Yes and that fucks over the Law of Cycles with unpredictable (and mostly likely bad) consequences for other magical girls. Seems pretty bad to me.
Seems about right. I think she was a bit shorter than Sayaka in the anime. And the images of all of the megukas together show her as being shorter than everyone else.
Found a decent enough comparison shot in my folder.
BEWARE THE GIRL WITH THREE FACES
Anyone remember this speculah?
Yes, it was stupid. It was always pretty obvious that she was Charlotte. Pixiv picked up on that right away.
It's pretty obvious that she's charlotte, what with the crazy eyes.
How are Junko and the teacher that short?
That's the one I was thinking of. Thanks, anon. So yeah. Madoka confirmed for shortest meguka.
Yeah. The oddly multicolored eyes should have been a damn near dead giveaway. Same eyes witch Charlotte.
Also, after watching the movie, I don't hate Homura. In fact, I like both Sayaka and Homura more after watching the movie, both of them and Kyouko got great development but mumi still the bes. And Nagisa is great too, shame she has so little screentime.
anyone who didn't relate her eyes to charlotte is retarded
Welp, at least she's taller than Yuno.
I wonder how many ex-witches put up their hand to go with Madoka into Homu's dream world.
If it was me I probably would've picked someone more useful like Gertrud
Wonder why they didn't go with Walpurgisnacht. I mean, the strongest witch of em all oughta be a cincher
There needs to be more WIDE megukas. They just seem to go well together.
walpurgisnacht is a bunch of witches rolled up in one.
But Walpurgisnacht is made up of many witches. If Madoka, Sayaka and a whole fucking witch army infiltrated the dream world surely QB would realise that one of them is Magical Girl God
What am I looking at here?
Ah, Nagisa may be useless, but she's so cute that no one would ever suspect her. It's the perfect crime!
Is he not japanese? Have I missed vital cannonic info?
Meguka oral sex.
but does Meguka go with Wide?
Yes it does
It's not about drafting a team of strongest witches, Madoka had to hand over her memory to the others so that she can stay under QB's radar. The people she bring must be absolutely reliable. If you get one or both of them going "you know, it's kind of nice in here, let's not wake up" then she will be fucked.
Sayaka is white knight and her secretary and best friend, so she's probably reliable. Nagisa just want cheese so she's easy to handle.
>tfw filtered Madoka/Homura/everything pertaining to the series since October to avoid spoilers
>Finally see Rebellion in Sydney yesterday
>Can take part in these threads again
It's nice to be back. Also does /a/ think we're getting a sequel?
I just saw the movie earlier today.
The series was Act 1, Rebellion is Act 2. There has to be an Act 3.
Perfection. Why does this crossover work so well? And in both directions, no less.
SoL megukas when??
It seems inevitable, although they seem to insist that there are "no plans" currently.
In our dreams ;_;
>Also does /a/ think we're getting a sequel?
With that ending, of course.
Also, too much of a cash cow not to milk.
There's something terribly worng with their arms
And probably, though there are no plans at this time.
Sayaka Magica Sayaka Magica
I'm impressed that you avoided spoilers for this long, even with a filter. I flat out left /a/ until I saw it in December.
There is no way we won't at this point.
For sure. I reckon season two would be:
>four meguca vs Homu fight ending
>bawww I just want us to live happily ever after
>Search your feelings Homu, this isn't what you want, become who you really are
>space lesbian scene with Godoka and Moemura
>GEN PLOT TWIST!
>open ended ending for more sequels
A little girl can dream.
Is it worth watching the first 2 movies, or is it really just like the Gurren Lagann movies where everything is shortened down into basic story form, but looks prettier?
All things considered, he could be part American.
It's pretty much that, but you should at least watch the OP because of symbolism.
As far as "the transition from TV series to movie" thing goes, it's worse than Gurren Lagann.
Madoka 1 and 2 are really best as a sort of refresher and/or "spot the differences" game.
Things start to make sense...
It does at first, but when you put it into context it starts to get weird.
They said they need a good "plot" for another sequel.
>Homu rapes Sayak pasta
I don't know what Miyako is saying in the bottom-left panel, but it's probably something like, "Woah, Yunocchi! I like the new look!"
Context aside, wide megukas are cute. I don't want to think of the hidamaris having their heads bitten off. ;_;
Someone needs to hurry up and translate all this guy's stuff.
Especially if they're military vehicles.
>Madoka's mom is now Hiro
>Hitomi is now Sae
How does this work out?
His Madoka is a cute miracle.
I can see Junko as Hiro.
I can't see Hitomi as Sae. I guess they have a few things in common, like being overachievers. But their personalities are pretty different.
>Madochi, here we go too!
I'd be depressed if Junko was anyone but herself. She's like an indirect role model for Homura. I'll be completely blown away if they don't have at least one scene together in an eventual sequel.
The only one who isn't a lesbian.
The twist is that she is Homura. The final act of the series will tie it all together in a stable time loop.
As a Sayakafag, I did like all the break dancing and white knighting and "that's what you get for dating Captain Oblivious", but I feel empty that there's no suffering Sayaka.
What's wrong with me?
Suffering makes you feel alive
Maybe it's like Doublas or Chuu2 bullying? I love them. But seeing their distressed faces is lovely.
Homu will probably fix that later, don't you... worry?
Not a True Sayakafag.
The only consequence is the new homu makes my dick harder.
If it makes you feel better she'll probably be the one who'll destroy Homura's utopia purely for moralfag reasons.
She'll be their Rorschach and Homura will be forced to kill her.
Homuficer wouldn't want to make Sayaka suffer. The more Sayaka enjoys the new world the more she forgets about the old, thus less likely to stir up trouble.
Smug is pretty lovely too
He's my absolute favorite. I've been in DJT for only a week now, but if he keeps making comics and holds my attention up 'til I can translate shit, I'll totally do it.
Agreed. I go nuts over Madoka when she has twintails but no ribbons--it makes her hair rather reminiscent of a big-eared puppy, doesn't it? It's a very docile and tender look.
And then you have his Homura. She's determined, caring, and most of all--doomed to abject suffering.
Dude, I just watched it today and as soon as I got home I deleted all the filters I had.
But she's suffering now within Homu's new world.
You don´t deserve Sayaka
I kind of understand what you mean. She doesn't quite feel like Sayaka without suffering.
But she's dead now. She already paid for her ideals. She's earned a break.
I can't imagine that Urobuchi didn't consider Junko while he was writing Rebellion Homu. You have the whole episode 6 spiel, as well as the episode 12 talk, where Junko's like, "Haha, those ribbons wouldn't suit me. If I had a daughter, I'd want her to wear them." which is interesting in retrospect because Homura is thinking the same thing. "Yeah, these ribbons don't suit me, I also want your daughter to wear them."
>But she's suffering now within Homu's new world.
Wait wait, so it's only Sayaka, Nagisa and kinda sorta Madoka who still has lingering knowledge of old world right? Kyouko and Mami don't know.
So is it really Puella Magi Sayaka Magica time?
>She'll be their Rorschach and Homura will be forced to kill her.
If Sayaka is Rorschach, then it doesn't really help Homura's utopia that she's Ozymandias.
Yes because Mami and Kyoko hadn't died yet in Madoka's universe thus they weren't a part of the Law of Cycles yet.
And yes Sayaka's the last hope of feeding my moralfaggotry that refuses to accept nothing is wrong with Homura's world.
Homufag here, I understand your worries. It might feel a bit vapid in the sequel if any of the girls get along too well.
Yes, Super Sayaka and her bumbling sidekick Sweets Girl will save the fair Princess Madoka from the evil clutches of Lord Homura.
I can't see that. We had morals win the day in the TV series, and Homura's nihilism won Rebellion. It feels like the sequel should be a compromise between the two.
That's what I understood. In the next movie, Sayaka should be the MC and will be tasked with slapping some sense into Homu so she releases Madoka and make again the- hopefully- final new world we saw at the end of the series.
Don't seriously expect any sequels.
Gen is probably out from madoka franchise.
Iwakami (aniplex producer) said on US screening they have absolutely no plans for now.
Nagisa could be completely separated from her memories. She doesn't have a ring in the movie or manga ending even though she has a ring in one of the posters for the movie.
Wouldn't it just be "Madoka slowly gets her memories back and must fight for control of the universe against Homura".
Though, that's really alot like Rebellion. Wouldn't want to use the same story twice.
the fuck am i reading
>Gen is probably out from madoka franchise.
Part of me wonders if "out" just means "five to ten year break"
Could still just be an artist oversight, they forgot the ring plenty of times in the series.
Of course their would be a sequel maybe a 4th movie. But will have too wait for a long time for that.
>end a series with nihilism winning out with no consequences as a result
Why did I start hearing the opening strains to the song Prince Ali from Aladdin when I saw this pic?
Wasn't there talk about a season 2 of Gargantia with Gen still involved?
Is the Rebellion manga translated/worth checing out?
why'd I laugh so hard at this?
I wouldn't put stock in Urobuchi going either way. He thinks the series has become much bigger than him, but at the same time, he's never explicitly said he's done with anything except for saying that he finished Madoka's story with the series and finished Homura's story with Rebellion.
Iwakami's statement can be taken at face value. At the time he was asked, he had no plans to continue the series. That is all.
Now, don't forget Shinbo. He's the gung-ho one who has gone on record multiple times as saying basically the same thing, "If we can, we want to."
Consider how well Rebellion was received and how any new figures they make are going to sell like hotcakes (Expect like 3 different Akuma Homura figures, ha), I'm sure the "If we can" isn't an issue.
The first volume is translated, we have raws for the other two. And yes, it's very interesting. Hanokage has a very unique take on the movie.
>Everyone posts the fuel sources
>No one posts Kyubey
Otters have been known to rape young seals. This is a fact, and has been observed on numerous occasions. They are still the cutest things currently in existence.
>The manga/tv series are separate from the movies; don't be mad guys we want more of your $$$!
I know it's an ambiguous term that just sounds edgy, but I mean it in the Nietzschean sense--"Gott ist tot". In the absence of godly values, humans should create their own. Homura exemplifies two of these that Nietzsche really likes to go on about: 'amor fati' and the 'will to power'.
I could go on but at risk of sounding like a broken record (just like homulilly!) to the other regulars in these threads.
>a broken record (just like homulilly!)
Hah. I remember old speculation that the record on her hat plays "Inevitabilis" non-stop in her barrier. The reality turned out to be far more soul-crushing.
>And yes, it's very interesting. Hanokage has a very unique take on the movie.
Gods, I love DFC Homura.
>inb4 Why does he want to give up Madoka for THAT?
Frankly I'd rather see him take a break from Madoka and try to improve that series. Maybe let him write the whole series instead of several people. (Was that why he didn't write all of Gargantia; he was too busy with Rebellion?)
>there will never be another madoka as anime as epic
We know anon. You gripe about it every other thread. We're sorry. But there's nothing that can be done for your interpretation. It died, just like Homura did on that fateful day in the desert.
I could see a season 2 with Sayaka as MC. Remember how the movie started with Madoka meeting up with Kyouko and Sayaka walking to school? That didn't happen in Homu's world, it was just Sayaka alone walking to school when she noticed Homuficer. They could've easily showed Sayaka and Kyouko together in that scene and use a time freeze on Kyouko to signify that Kyouko wasn't in on the Homuficer thing. But they didn't.
Even if Sayaka end up forgetting everything, her fate is too tightly weaved with Kyouko and they will run into each other again in Homu's world. I can imagine they go together in search of some vague lost memory that they feel they share in between them and go back to the church. Then they get all their memories back.
then say "Nietzschean sense", not nihilism
nihilism means that any fighting for anything at all is pointless or meaningless
generally what people who hate homura argue for
Stop this, Homura doesn't want attention leave her alone!
You're confusing me.
Nope, at the end of the series, my imagination runs wild. Rebellion who? What? No such thing.
No fuck that, as much as I like Sayaka as an MC that's a low blow to Madoka.
Madoka needs Madokami back SO she can slap some sense to Homura.
Thread isn't complete without a sad Mami.
Sayaka still has that ring right? Pretty sure I saw it in one of the last shots.
They wouldn't make a series with the same basic plot as Rebellion, only with Sayaka swapping place with Homura trying to wake up from the dream world. That's just too predictable.
I can't really see them doing another TV series unless it's with a new cast. If they're going to resolve this, it's has to be a movie, if anything.
and there went my plans to not cry today
Yes Sayaka still have her ring. In fact she's now super powered and can switch between Sayaka and Oktavia von Seckendorff at will if Homu isn't blocking her power.
That's fine anon you just don't know you got clapped from reality.
Why is gothloli Homu so cute?
Don't be sad, you have a loli now.
Why not have Sayaka be the source that gains her memories back first and works to get Madoka's memories back as well?
>that's a low blow to Madoka.
Meh, I'm sick of waiting for Madoka's choices to have any value. The writers are pretty clear that attaining godhood was as worthless as when she wasted her life on a fucking cat in timeline 1.
You're too endearing to ignore, Homu.
Movies are supposed to be a trilogy.
They can resolve this problem but with new cast.
that's surprisingly a lot
Nah anon, that's a really rigid and fatalistic subset of nihilism. Many nihilists would argue simply that the universe does not give us any intrinsic value--that we must create it ourselves.
Movieverse yes this.
What comes to mind to me is that the final part will at last have Madoka as the MC, just as the fucking name of the series. I hope they're thinking of that, I'll give them 2 years before I begin to despair because of no sequel.
>The writers are pretty clear that attaining godhood was as worthless as when she wasted her life on a fucking cat in timeline 1.
That's stupid. How is her wish in the final timeline worthless? It's one of the most important aspects of er character and one of the driving points of Rebellion, and most likely the next installment as well.
>The writers are pretty clear that attaining godhood was as worthless as when she wasted her life on a fucking cat in timeline 1.
I really want to hold it, but I'm too much of a faggot to ever deserve it.
Guys, you know how everyone berates the term 'deconstruction' (as we use it to refer to subverting genre tropes) for having strayed away from its original meaning?
Well, look up the original meaning.
>"Due to the impossibility of pure presence and consequently of intrinsic meaning, any given concept is constituted and comprehended linguistically and in terms of its oppositions, e.g. perception/reason, speech/writing, mind/body, interior/exterior, marginal/central, sensible/intelligible, intuition/signification, nature/culture."
e.g. order/desires, am I right?
Homura did nothing wrong.
Kyubey did nothing wrong.
See one thing I don't get. To attend godhood you need to have a lot of karmatic burden, like time loop powered Madoka.
So how the hell did Homu become a god? Was it always in her or was it just because she saw Madoka do the "blow up your own soul gem" trick at the end of the old universe that she figured out how to do it herself?
Or did she ascend purely on stolen divinity?
She didn't become a god, she became a devil. Those are totally different things.
She didn't wear her cutest dress long enough.
She had it in her since she made her wish to be strong enough to protect Madoka in timeline 1. She'd been stronger than Madoka ever since, but didn't know it or couldn't use it yet.
Didn't she mention the fact that she also went through a gorillion universes?
So stop posting this then if she's so innocent.
I believe all those time loops welled up her emotions, like Madoka's power increased.
And she became a demon thanks to the power of love.
She's just trying to create the perfect world for the girl she loves. Is the heart that wished for a thing so sinful that it needs to be judged?
And she tore Madokami from Madoka, and taking a part of LoC.
What would have happened if Homura never escaped her barrier (Effectively killing herself), and was never freed by Magical Girl Sentai Group?
It's not safe outside, take this with you
Her soul would be lost, unable to be touched by the Law of Cycles.
Homura did everything right.
Love must come first.
Ok so how are you suppose to reason that Post Rebellion Homura is running on the Timeline 3 promise to not let Madoka make a contract/help people while she somehow still can hold on to the Law of Cycles as a concept. How can you honor a sacrifice yet go completely against it.
This is made all the worse by the fact that we're told that nothing happened to the Law of Cycles.
>Hey Jesus, I love you for being willing to die for Mankind but I'm going to knock you out and smuggle you out of Jerusalem so that doesn't happen.
That motherfucker is cute.
Incubators take over the universe on their terms again.
She suffers eternally never to be saved , repeating her funeral again and again and again.
You just had to do it, didn't you?
Sayaka is a fucking hypocrite.
>"Creating a world where everyone is happy is not such a bad thing"
>"Yeah, I guess you are right"
Because she mastered both hope and despair.
Normally witches go berserk because their despair is based on curses.
Homura's pain and suffering was done out of love. She doesn't curse the world--she uses her own despair as a tool to accomplish her goals.
How do we know this? Well, Homura envelopes the world in a labyrinth, her familiars are everywhere, the world is secretly tripping balls (music box, green sky, purple tang, etc. that all appear before Homura claps things back to normal), and most importantly, Homura is still wallowing in her own self-loathing a la Clara Dolls.
Simply enforcing the sad Mami quota, officer.
Let's have a thought experiment:
It's the far future, and you've saved up enough karma to reincarnate into a perfect world for yourself. But you have two choices:
To live on a paradise world, with a loving waifu and daughter and all the other niceties in life. The catch is however that your waifu and daughter are actually soulless automatons following programming. Though the mimic is perfect so you won't be able to tell.
Alternatively, you could live in a more modest world, where you will live in an average apartment working average jobs and have to budget your spending. However you will still have a loving waife and daughter. In exchange for materialism however in this world your waife and daughter are real sentient beings and they genuinely love you.
Which world would you pick?
Homura doesn't love Madoka for sacrificing herself to save megucas. Madoka could have been literally Hitler and Homura would still love her.
>I understand that you love the world, but stop fucking killing yourself
Is Utena a good watch for a Madoka fan?
I need something to tide me over until Rebellion BDs.
he's saying if the Dualism theorists are right, Madoka will become deconstruction in the original sense of the word.
Kawaii as fuck! Someone shop Homurakko.
Utena is a good watch for anyone.
But prepare to rage at certain points.
It's a good watch for any anime fan with good taste. It's nothing like Madoka though. So don't go in expecting more Madoka.
So then what is the reason that the Law of Cycles still exists? Was it simply out of Homura's power to destroy it? Does she keep it around simply because dealing with wraiths is easier than witches?
Because anyone who says its to honor how noble Madoka's attempts were can get a big "no and fuck you".
That's enough. Don't force me to lock you up for exceeding the allowed limit.
She just needs some love.
>if Homura never escaped her barrier (Effectively killing herself),
HA! To that anon who argued with me for hours on end, I told you Kyubey's words are easy to interpret this way.
That said, I don't think Homura thought things through at all. Why the fuck would everyone just leave her barrier?
Spin off series... 4koma... OVA special.. Anything..
>Law of circle is nothing but mad system which ramming all puella magi's despair and curse to Madoka eternally.
Welp. Did Homu really think like this?
Is my daughter cute and non-slutty?
She respects Madoka's achievement and didn't want to undo all the good that Madoka had done. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if Homura decided to completely destroy the Law of Cycles if/when Madokami fully reawakens.
Gen has finished writing Rebellion by July, 2011.
Never, enjoy your nihilism.
Missing the point completely. The point of that little speech was to tell Homura to not be so hard on herself. Wishing for everyone to be happy is fine. It the way Homura accomplished it in the end that's the problem.
The Law of Cycles is still a good thing to have around. Homura's new world is still built on the foundation of "no witches". She just doesn't want Madoka, the person, to have to suffer to do it.
Homura knows her new dream world is doomed. That's why she tells both Sayaka and Madoka that she will be their enemy at the end of the world.
Her dream world is just her way to be with Madoka as they were for a little bit longer.
... what happens when Madoka dies for good and Homura loses any and all hope? Homu goes full witch? Homu goes insane and destroys the universe?
She didn't care if she broke the law of cycles or not. She couldn't have known what would happen when she ripped Madoka in half. Maybe she could have pulled the entire Madoka out of Yuri Valhalla and buttfucked the law of cycles completely, creating a world with both wraiths and witches.
For now. She'll later become the devil and wear a very indecent dress.
Homura is broken, she needs a huge rest.
>are actually soulless automatons following programming
>are real sentient beings and they genuinely love you
>implying these are different
Aren't humans just very complex machines, anon? Well, assuming there is indeed a difference, I would pick the modest world, of course. Happiness is a result of working hard for your things. The first world sounds like it might result in stagnation if all of my needs are taken care of. A human has no purpose if not to care for themselves, in my opinion.
Oh, shut up, you.
And still expect Madoka to be happy after that? I don't think Homura has such a shallow understanding of Madoka's character.
Did Homura actually kill herself after the credit sequence?
Maybe, maybe not. If the artist is anything like me, he's probably changed his interpretation of Homura's Rebellion like 30 times already.
Which is probably the case because his recent stuff has been much less depressing.
Yeah, totally. She's dead. That's it.
It's fine as long as Madoka doesn't regain her memories.
See most people would pick an imperfect real world over a perfect dream world draped over their eyes.
Except Homu I guess
>if Homura never escaped her barrier (Effectively killing herself)
>Why the fuck would everyone just leave her barrier?
You might want to rewatch the part where Homura says that she wants to have Mami and Kyouko kill her, not sit in her barrier forever.
So like, what is a realistic alternative to the current universe Homura has made. What would be a better way for Homura to have gone about it?
It's not worth it
It would have been better for Homura to just go to Yuri Heaven with Godoka.
The three of them risked their necks to rescue her from the isolation field just to see her fuck it all up at the last moment.
There's no fixing her.
She could fly at the end of episode 12. Then she grew wings.
Think about it.
How do you respect the achievements and think with the mindset "I should have been strong enough to stop you before you became a goddess."
I don't believe it's possible to hold both these views.
Accepted that Madoka is happy enough being a goddess and just let herself be taken away to yuri valhalla where she can Luminous with Madoka every day?
Do memories really matter? She sacrificed herself a hundred times before, she will do it again. Only way to stop her is to free world of misfortune.
What? The viewer's left, obviously.
This is where we fundamentally differ. I see Homura as someone who has worked very hard to make her dreams into reality. Hell, she's not even done yet anon. The night is still half-eaten.
Not to mention it's a complete lack of faith that Madokami and her legion of magical girls can't handle this new Incubator threat of isolation barriers.
Basically Homura doing the same thing she always did blocking Madoka from doing anything or taking any responsibility.
Don't worry, I have a lot of catching up to do on this season's anime so I won't be hosting any circular arguments tonight
Can you blame her? She has seen too much shit and she wasn't even able to change anything, she even killed Madoka in timeline 3. And she didn't even succeed in accomplishing her own wish.
She's just making her wish come true now even if it will all tumble down in the end until she can.
That isn't the Homu we know and love.
That's like her saying in timeline one, "Oh well, Madoka died. I guess I'll go back to school and be autistic in the corner."
She's so far gone that she can never stop fighting for Madoka no matter what.
That's obviously Homu's next order of business. Make every possible effort to shield Madoka from the harsh realities of the world. She can send her Clara Dolls to intercept any wraiths or whatever that Madoka might notice. use her Clara Dolls as agents to squash any problems that might arise. Mami, Sayaka, and Kyouko should be more than adequate to defeat all the wraiths.
So, if Godoka implanted her memories into Sayaka and Charlotte/Nagisa so she could go commando-under-cover in Homura's barrier, why wasn't Kyuubey suspicious of the two used-to-be-witches?
Or at least the Kyuubey's on the outside?
It's like she's only working and living through fight everything, until she really dies.
The threat was only because of her. Homura was the only one who knew of Madoka's existence. If she died, the threat died with her.
Kyubey didn't know what a witch was. Only Homura, Sayaka, and Nagisa did.
So you're saying that all of the magical girls should just continue to be sacrifices for the Incubators' utilitarian furnace and that Homura shouldn't worry about the threat of them trying to take over Madokami? Obviously if Homura could do it, it's reasonable to believe the Incubators could.
Homura not only took care of the Incubators, but intends to fight the wraiths. In what way is she not working toward a world much less filled with suffering than it was before her Rebellion? How is a world that she creates with her own love, blood, sweat, and tears just a dream?
But her fight for Madoka should have been over. It was all her suffering that allowed Madoka to make her wish, after all. Her efforts weren't in vain. Being together with Madoka is her well-deserved reward. She just didn't think she deserved it.
They were too focused on the girl in there that the world had no record of. Sayaka and Nagisa were dead, but at the same time, they had existed in the past, so they probably just assumed that Homura dreamed them up or something rather than actually invited them in.
He doesn't know what witches are, and that Sayaka and Nagisa where anomalies in that world.
>That isn't the Homu we know and love.
She would be fighting by Madoka's side, she could have been another of her angels. Maybe even the one targeting Incubators who try to set up isolation barriers. But no, instead she lone wolfs it taking the entire burden like always.
This, this is bullshit
>Madoka is a force of nature now. I guess that's fine... I'll fight on for as long as I can in her name!
>Holy whit, QB trapped me in an isolation field to trick Godoka to appear so they can learn to control her and revert her work. I'll rather suffer in eternity as a witch than let them touch her!
>You guys came back to save me? I'm so happy. Madoka, we finally meet again.
>Actually lol I changed my mind. Fuck all the other magical girls and their Law of Cycles, I want to play Madoka like a puppet in my own dream world
Magical girls are still sacrifices for the Incubators' utilitarian furnace. The wraith system is still intact, that hasn't changed.
>Homura shouldn't worry about the threat of them trying to take over Madokami? Obviously if Homura could do it, it's reasonable to believe the Incubators could.
Please, the Incubators don't have emotions, they could never master AI YO.
More like Say-Yakka, because she never shuts up.
Her efforts where in vain
She didn't want what Madoka did, sacrificing herself for the rest of humanity and to be tottaly gone from the world.
She even said that what Madoka did was morse than death.
Yes, but when you consider the symbolism present in Sayaka's fist, the literal meaning of the words becomes unclear. Besides, what if the viewer is upside down or looking at their monitor through a mirrored surface?
He didn't know what the hell Bebe was, but Homu's barrier was full of trippy things, so he didn't notice.
What is AI YO?
You're a laugh riot, anon.
If she gives up, she will die. It nearly happened in episode 12.
She probably doesn't need to fight wraiths anymore. She apparently has the power to alter the universe with a good clap.
She didn't want to be one of anything, she wanted to be Madoka's only thing.
movie 4 in a nutshell
So tell me anon, what is the significance of this scene? Why does Homura need Kyubey? Why does she imply that she intends to destroy the wraiths?
Baby don't hurt me
Ah, I thought so - thanks anon.
That filename is also silly. Sayaka isn't unsure of herself because she has no regrets. We see that in the theater scene as well as when she is a bitch.
She needs Kyubey to keep making magical girls and collect Grief Seeds so that the system keeps running. But she might be planning to replace it with something else.
QB was trying to run away and completely abandon humanity. Homura wanted him to stay so he could create magical girls and take care of wraiths. Pretty simple.
>Why does she imply that she intends to destroy the wraiths?
She said she may destroy the universe after the wraiths are destroyed, not that she'd do it herself.
Suffering has to go somewhere.
Sayaka had one regret.
Why would Homura want a world with magical girls and witches? Wouldn't she rather a world where everyone is just normal 14 year old girls? Having the megucas acquire unpredictable powers in the new world by contracting seems like it would be a destabilising factor.
Sayaka is a special case, since she starts off in the new world as a magical girl / witch hybrid. That's why Homura is particularly antagonistic towards her.
Remember that Wraiths arise just from humanity's negative emotions. There's no reason to believe that they would cease to exist just because magical girls went away.
Well wraiths are going to be a thing regardless of whether magical girls exist, won't they? They simply arise from the curses of humanity. Also, there's the whole living in caves thing.
Reminder that this is what a true sacrifice looks like. She even left her home planet so that none of the Incubator's taint remained on it.
Why would she want to create magical girls? You guys seem to be making motives up.
That's not how karma works. If the girls stopped making wishes, the wraiths would have no curses to feed on.
I don't think there are magical girls, Homu made Kyubey go collect despair instead.
She explicitly said she needed the Incubators to "deal with the curses that appear in our world". The way they do that is by creating magical girls, that is their entire purpose. You can speculate on motives all you like, that doesn't change what she said.
I just realized something...the wraith system is kinda worse in the long run huh?
I mean in the witch system there is at least the possibility that say if the Incubators left Earth the last remaining Magical Girls could potentially exterminate all witches on the planet and then commit suicide so that they don't turn into witches.
However in the wraith system, once the last Magical girl dies humanity is fucked.
Remember how karma works. Curses don't come from nothing, they come because wishes and curses are two sides of the same coin. There's a reason why wraiths didn't exist until witches were removed from the system.
There won't be a last magical girl until humanity is gone anyway though, the Incubators will keep contracting. And it's better because it's in the Incubators' best interest to keep the girls alive to keep hunting, rather than try to get them to despair and die.
Sayaka and Nagisa are the only magical girls in S2.
Would you watch it /a/?
Wraiths might still be dependent on the presence of magical girls too, somehow. That's pure speculation though because they really haven't gone into it at all.
No, I'm a massive Homufag.
>Remember that Wraiths arise just from humanity's negative emotion
so where were they pre-Madokami?
That wouldn't make much sense
I would watch it though yes
Did Mami and Kyoko have their soul rings on their hands?
To answer your question, I guess as long as the other girls get SOL moments too.
>There's a reason why wraiths didn't exist until witches were removed from the system.
They both feed on human despair, witches will simply out-compete wraiths as long as they exist. Or something.
Again, Homura said she needed QB to deal with the curses that appear in their world, obviously referring to the wraiths. That must mean that wraiths will exist whether or not the Incubators contact humanity.
But Homu a devil now, she can't be a meguca.
Sayaka best onee-san.
We didn't get to see Mami and Kyouko, I'm betting no though. I don't think Homu with her new god-like power will tolerate QB lurking around trying to lure Mami, Kyouko and particularly Madoka into contracting.
Sayaka and Nagisa get special carry over powers as well as old world memory. They can turn into witch mode whenever they want.
>They both feed on human despair
Their birth is what is important here anon. If wraiths are born from negative emotions of normal humans then it's different compared to witches who are born either from a Magical Girl or from a familiar that feeds on enough humans.
I'm a Homu Kyoukofag, if both of them is not there I won't.
Unless the plot of that is good.
>They obtain grief seeds in order to maintain the balance of the world in ruins
Again, karmic cycle dictates that the hope created by a wish must be offset by the despair sown by a curse
QB is just Homura's puppet though, I doubt she has to worry about what he does.
Yes, both of them.
The exact life cycle of wraiths is not exactly clear, but it's not unreasonable to think that they simply arise as a natural consequence of a lack of witches, since it's not like Madoka's wish implied their existence at all.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
Kyouko would be like a key to Sayaka's old memories once she loses them. Homu would do everything in her power to keep the two of them apart.
Calm down Mami don't lose your head
I'm saying if girls don't make wishes, then there is no need for wraiths to balance the world by spreading curses. It says right in their production art that they're balancing the world.
Wishes aren't the only source of hope in the world though, they're just an extension of humanity's hopes by magical means.
It would be relatively easy too. In order for Sayaka to run into Kyouko a specific chain of events have to happen, first being Kyouko have to contract and mess up her family. With her new god like powers Homura could just make Kyouko's dad successful so Kyouko don't need to contract in the first place.
>keep the two of them apart.
But she didn't, even in the last part of the movie before the credits rolls.
>A devil propping up a heretic's work
I never said they were. They're just the conversion of hope into magic, just like curses are despair into magic.
How else do you propose all wraiths can be destroyed, anyway?
>How else do you propose all wraiths can be destroyed, anyway?
Once humanity is gone, wraiths will no longer be produced.
>I wouldn't watch a show unless it featured my favorite characters
Why watch any anime ever?
Actually I retract this statement. The details of soul gem magic are not this exact and I think the argument we're having can't have an end because of the ambiguity.
It's more Madoka that Homura is wary of Sayaka being with. She even makes that threat that if Sayaka doesn't play nice, the new Madoka might not like her.
Isn't "the wraiths are starved and wither away" totally different from "the wraiths are destroyed" ?
Silly Homu, she should know by now that threatening Sayaka only make things worse.
They still have to be destroyed, it's just that "all" of them can't be destroyed until no more are being produced.
If humanity was dead, why would the last wraiths need to be killed? Would they even survive without despair to feed on?
Homura implies being Sayaka and Madoka's enemy once the wraiths are destroyed, and I really doubt she expects Madoka to live to see humanity's extinction, being human and all.
For their grief cubes? Magical girls still gotta eat.
No matter which way you slice it, wraiths won't be around forever, is really the salient point here.
She only said that to Sayaka specifically. And they're both only pretending to be human anyway.
Is there anything softer than Jellyfish?
Akuma Homura has the sofest skin?
Now you're getting it anon.
Sealdoka flapping her flippers to keep up with Sayakolphin is the most adorable thing ever.
I doubt it, she doesn't take care of herself.
I'm sure she does, why would she want to be all stinky and risk Madoka rejecting her?
Her skin would feel the softest, just because it's hers.
She doesn't have the sense of self-worth it would take to ask Madoka for anything. She doesn't care how anyone sees her.
Then why does she make her hair look all nice
It does that on its own
So her skin must too.
She just wakes up and her hair looks fantastic? No washing, no styling, just, nothing?
No, skin's different.
>So there's no deeper meaning for your hairstyle?
Madoka's just not thinking DEEP enough. Poor, simple fool.
>about to ask where this is from
>stop my self, reverse image search
Why is Sealdoka literally so perfect?
>only new doujins are futa
This is true suffering
She's just is.
We're so proud of you, anon.
I hate you.
But futa is the only acceptable form to fap to megukas, anon!
He's all grown up!
Where does Sealdoka normally sleep?
I hate it.
Are you really proud of me, anon-senpai?
Sealdoka sleep with Homuotter, of course.
I wonder how we don't have a proper Homura rapes the shit out of Sayaka doujin yet.
Because that pairing is shit, just like your taste.
You're a little closer to its meaning, but allow me to post the copypasta I made anyway for people who misue the term -
Allow me to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as d̶e̶c̶o̶n̶s̶t̶r̶u̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ is in fact p̶s̶u̶e̶d̶o̶d̶e̶c̶o̶n̶s̶t̶r̶u̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ , or as I've recently taken to calling it, s̶u̶b̶v̶e̶r̶i̶s̶i̶o̶n̶. Deconstruction is not a specific attribute of a series itself, but rather another method of analysis using a fully functional post-structural system of signifiers, made useful by reversing a pair of binary opposites.
Many people use the concept of d̶e̶c̶o̶n̶s̶t̶r̶u̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events (I blame TV Tropes), the version of d̶e̶c̶o̶n̶s̶t̶r̶u̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ which is widely used today is misnamed s̶u̶b̶v̶e̶r̶s̶i̶o̶n̶, and many of its users are not aware that this version of s̶u̶b̶v̶e̶r̶s̶i̶o̶n̶ is basically an attribute of the text that subverts the expectations of that texts in relation to their genre, completely different to the deconstruction post-structural system developed by Derrida.
There really is a deconstruction, and these people are using it, but it's just a part of their arguments for or against a certain idea being present in the text. The post-structuralist philosophy of textual analysis - that there is no transcendental signifier in the system - is completely absent. Deconstruction is a process - the part of analysis that switches the allocation of the dominance of one signifier with another. The signifier is essentially part of a text, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete system of signifiers, endlessly deferring meaning to other signifiers. Deconstruction is normally used in combination with marxist, psychoanalytic or feminist criticism, though it can be used for other more broader philosophical, and less political, subjects of textual interpretation. All the so called d̶e̶c̶o̶n̶s̶t̶r̶u̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ of a text are really just s̶u̶b̶v̶e̶r̶s̶i̶o̶n̶.
Why is it that Mami's breasts are always drawn bigger than Sayaka's even though they are the same cup size?
Because they aren't, Mami is stronger.
Mami is always in a tight-fitting corset type of dealy.
Her corset don't push up her breasts, is only for her waist.
And even in normal clothes she has more than Sayaka.
Mami has bigger tits. Stop looking at fucking newtype charts are where ever the fuck you got cup-size data. Just look at the damn show.
Homu loves her Sealdoka most.
I love Homu the most.
There is not enough Sealdoka and Homuotter love.
She don't love you, she only love Madoka, go away.
That's okay. No waifufag is saddened by the embracing of inherently unrequitable love. I am no exception.
Me too, if Madoka makes Homura happy - I am happy.
I don't think she wants to be happy, anon. ;_;
Why is Mami so adventurous?
What that even means?
It means she has huge guts! Rip and tear!
Like, really depressed or something. Are you familiar with "I'm shattered"? I'm Australian so it might just be local slang.
In deep distraught.
She likes to play with hair.
She wants to look super elegant.
BD cover confirmed
That's a really shitty edit.
Live action confirmed.
big black cock
> She even left her home planet so that none of the Incubator's taint remained on it.
Maybe that's what will happen if Homura.
After she is defeated and all the happy world she made is undone Madoka will banish her to another planet/universe.
Homura hits puberty, what do?
>Madoka rejecting Homura
>implying love can be defeated
14 year old girls are already deep in puberty. They won't really develop anymore curve after 15.
But that's obviously Mami trying a new hair style.
That's why Madoka will use her love for Homura to defeat Akuma, she has always been top anyway.
Madoka is too kind to do that, but a slap and a sincere LONG conversation f for Homu would be pretty good.
They never had a good conversation to everything that happened anyway.
I don't know, she was so utterly torn apart in the first round.
I really want to see a vore doujin where Madokami devours Homura like a snake would devour a frog, while they declare their love for each other.
Which Meuga would you take out to dinner?
How would they behave?
Any of them. I love all five.
Homu's elite clara dolls.
Why do you all neglect her?
Because she's shit and waste of space.
Nonsense, Nagisa is the cutest.
She's the cheesiest
Madoka is the cutest, Nagisa is just shit.
>I'm the radish
Do megucas need to use the bathroom after eating?
Technically, they probably don't have to anymore, but they probably continue to do so normally out of habit.
Their bodies functional normally, anon.
Their bodies still function like normal human bodies. They just don't encompass souls and heal really fast.
That's what I meant! But they likely could suppress any need to "function normally" if the situation called for it from simple increases in stamina to more extreme feats, like magically teleporitng waste out of their bodies.
Oh, I thought you were asserting that they don't need to but do so because they want to. pic unrelated
DEATH TO HOMU
HOMU IS KILL
DIE HOMU DIE
[Spoilers] Like, the way that she loves Madoka enough to threaten her repeatedly in the hopes that she'll stay alive instead of letting Madoka do what she wants, and give her life for what she believes in. It's like a kid trying to protect their doll, y'know?[spoilers]