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One of the things I hate in anime is the classical hotheaded "shonen" main character/character.
They piss me off every time. Sadly since most of the people who watch shonen relate to that kind of person, it's so common.
I love it when the protagonist is cold-blooded, rational, intelligent, young and ambitious.
The truth is that this kind of individual usually plays the role of the villain (or the helper, like in Valvrave).
So there aren't too many shows with such a protagonist. There's Death Note, Code Geass, LOTGH there are also the less serious ones, like TWGOK and that's despite the enormous success of the forst two.
I heard about guilty crown being similar to Dn and CG, but I have the feeling that It's the kind of anime that I would get angry about
So I don't understand why there are so few anime like that, /a/. CG might not be a masterpiece, but at least it's miles better than other things, and you don't hate the mc
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*tips fedora*
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>>101350617

>Reinhard-fag

Who Yang here?
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>>101350747
Op here, actually I liked Yang Wenli more than Reinhardt, but he's a better example of the character I was talking about. The best example actually. Yang is more like L just less evil.
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Yeah that trope (sorry) is very annoying. However, when done correctly it gives the audience someone to relate to and fires up their emotions, like you said.

It's always refreshing when there's a shounen without a rage-fueled protag though. Yozakura quartet comes to mind, the newer one.
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>Death Note
>Light
>rational
>intelligent

Sure lost like bitch for a cold-blooded guy
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>>101351558
Mary Sues are bad you know.
The ending showed how human he was.
But he kept being cold for most of the anime, even in situations where that was difficult.
>>101351509
You might be right. but rational and cold characters can occasionally become emotional and that's really a wonderful thing.
Lelouch and his hate for britannia is the prime example. The way he said "I will destroy britannia" wasn't all that different from "I will destroy the titans", but he usually executed his plans with calmness and intelligence. He only occasionally lost due to emotions.
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>>101352077
You don't know what the term means -- just because you win doesn't mean you're a Mary Sue.
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>>101352243
A Mary Sue is a character that is perfect at everything. Like Light, if he had not shown his flaws in the last part of the series.
>Beautiful
>very intelligent
>Is very sociable
>has many friends
>is popular
>self-righteous asshole
>is good at sports and everything else
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>>101352589

>A Mary Sue is a character that is perfect at everything
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>>101352730
>Mary Sue
You are actually right. I forgot. Kirito is a mary sue, because the author self inserts as him.
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You are a terrible human being.
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>>101350747
Yang is pretty much my favourite LoGH but I'd follow Reinhard-sama given the chance.
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>>101352589
Light's flaws were constantly shown. You sort of ignored it because he usually won, but his flaws were evident.

-Became psychotic when he got the notebook.
-Thought he was so perfect that he could become a god. This is a flaw you know.
-Was initially really smug about his so-called "plan" until he got tricked by a broadcast.
-Got outsmarted by his opponent occasionally.
-Threw a fit whenever he got outsmarted.

Basically, you shouldn't focus too much on his victories. He struggled too you know. And with his brilliant opponents, he struggled hard.
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Does anyone have the essential legend of galactic hero chart?
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>>101355106

I'd follow any of the Admirals. Except Fork.
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>>101355320
It was pretty sad that almost every single Alliance admiral was a dimwit compared to even the shittier Imperial ones.
At least the Alliance had superior ground troops. Well, one detachment.
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>>101355111
Maybe I didn't notice them because I always made a comparison between him and Lelouch. Lelouch made many more mistakes, which made me notice light's ones less.
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>>101355572
Also Lelouch was shit at chess.
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>>101355512

>Alliance had superior ground troops. Well, one detachment.

The Rosenritter felt so out of place. Especially in a system so corrupt and broken as the Alliance.
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>>101355512
that was only because they were ready to lay a trap.
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>>101350617
I completely agree. I wish there were more characters like that.

Oberstein is my favorite LoGH character.
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>>101355696
Compared to who? Every single honorable and more sensible commander felt out of place there because the government was so utterly shit.
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>>101355572
Lelouch wasn't psychotic, at least. He knew when his actions crossed the line of morality and felt really guilty for it.

Light felt guilty for his actions once. And that was it. You could clearly see that his brain was messed up.
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>>101355966
It was just his ideals. He wasn't doing anything bad, he disposed of human trash after all. And from his point of view that was a mission important enough to justify minor sacrifices.
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>>101355966
>psychotic

psychopathic*
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>>101355734
>you will never lay a trap with schenkopp
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>>101350617
These characters you're talking about are pretty hot blooded in my opinion. Reinhardt's motivation had a lot to do with his anger at his sister being taken away (Kircheis often lectured him for being too rash and reckless) , and Lelouch's motivations was the humiliation both he and his sister's suffered. The difference lies in them being intelligent, clever, rational people. Hot bloodedness has nothing to do with it. Now is this type of caracter superior to your regular all brawn and no brain shonen protagonist ? It depends. One Piece for instance certainly would be boring if Luffy was clever enough never to put himself and his crew in danger.
>>101355665
>shit at chess
The only opponent we saw him play against didn't know the rules of chess.
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>>101356163
Yeah and Lelouch ran away instead of calling him on that.
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>>101356228
>Lelouch ran away instead of calling him on that
But he did call the emperor out about it. Twice.
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>>101356369
I have no idea man, I only saw the pictures. I've never watched Geass because I bounce right off the artstyle.
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>>101356163
Light and Reinhard were not hot blooded in the general sense, but yes, they were less calm than their rivals (L and Yang).

As for Lelouch, his declaration of his intent to destroy Britannia was a moment of hot bloodedness. I'd go as far as to say that he's more hotblooded than Suzaku, who chose to go along with the flow in hopes of changing the system.

tl;dr: Light and Reinhard: not hotblooded. Lelouch: Quite.
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>>101356452
People like you should be culled at birth.
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>>101355746
Oberstein is a spiteful dick on top of being calculating and cold.
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>>101356689
How was he spiteful? Maybe you're just spiteful towards him.
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>>101356452
>Not watching code geass
You are the cancer killing everything.
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>>101356766
He always went for the most "offensive" way of dealing with things, even if a milder approach would be better in the long run. Clearly to stress that he's Machiavelli 2.5, but still.
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>>101356854
It wasn't a particularily good anime to be honest.
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>>101356689

>Oberstein is a spiteful dick

Oberstein did nothing wrong.
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>>101356980
It may not be a masterpiece but It's still the most entertaining thing I have ever had the pleasure to watch.
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>>101356163
>One Piece for instance certainly would be boring if Luffy was clever enough never to put himself and his crew in danger.
Azumanga Daioh would be boring if Osaka was clever.
>These characters you're talking about are pretty hot blooded in my opinion.
Well, I forgot one of the coldest of all,
Oberstein.
And i included L-Elf from valvrave in the "list".
With Cold-blooded I mean in executing their plans and fighting. Also them "losing their cool" was something that always appeared as exceptional. Just compare them to Eren or Haruto.
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The art style really changes, it was distracting especially in episode 26 because the eyes looked different on the red hair guy.
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>>101356980
>>101356854

It's better than a lot of things, so yes. It's good enough.



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