Is there any other studio based enough to put their big ass glowing name in the OP?
you mean is there any studio so desperate ?
Like an angel gainax
Shaft and Trigger are the only stylistic studios left.
How can a studio be so based?
I don't think I've ever seen an OP where they have the credits be part of the opening rather than simple text that can be removed later.
Same for the the rubble with blood on it that forms the title.
Is there another studio making commercials for multibillion dollars car manufacturers?
Is there anther studio keeping 100% hand drawn movies a thing still?
Is there another studio making more originals?
Is there another studio taking more chances?
>reminder that end of eva and FLCL would have looked like shit if not for I.G
>end of eva and FLCL would have looked like shit if not for I.G
Figures. Does Gainax even take credit for FLCL? I have the blu-ray of it and I.Gs logo is all over it. Gainax is nowhere to be found.
Its there first real anime as a new studio so I'm sure they're proud of it.
Is that the dog from Innocence?
>not the evangelion of anime
>inb4 it's important to the plot
Yeah, a lot of stuff Mamoru Oshii directed feature basset hounds in some, way based on his own. Most of the films he directed were made by I.G., hence the hounds I guess.
>Implying Inferno Cop wasn't made before Eva
>Implying Eva wasn't made as a tribute to Inferno Cop
Trigger is fast becoming a top-tier studio. But only time will tell whether they will be able to stand among the likes of I.G., Madhouse, and old Gainax.
Some even put them in random frames inside the episode.
Wait, what are they doing next to Bobby Rubio's booth?
>Zoom into monochromatic display
>TRIGGER in heavenly, big fucking letters
>EVERY OUTFIT SLIDESHOW
>Ryuuko and Satsuki "scissoring" and students flying all over the place
>Blood splatter on the show's tittle (also big fucking letters carved from rock)
>Life fiber rape
>Show's tittle squeezed by scissors
I couldn't care about anime at this point, my boner is saved.
Servant x Service had a crazy dynamic OP.
Imaishi is so fuckin swag
Just now finding out how amazing these guys are. Watched a lot of their late 90's and early 20's movies. I see why Tarantino chose them for his Kill Bill adaption now.
It'd be nice if they actually make a profit on KlK and can afford to animate better in their next show.
I'm buying the BDs partly for the nice extras and partly because I like the show, but also partly because I feel sorry for them.
It looks like it's going to decently enough. First vol has almost sold 10k and the rest are doing above average. I guess they will have aniplex's attention now.
The only thing is it might be another year or 2 before they make another anime. They're a really small studio.
All that and they can't make a TV show sell more than 25k even, worthless.
Can you name an actual good series that has gotten more than 25k?
Go away. Your prime time is over, and you're just slowly becoming more of a withering corpse. Hurry up and die so that you can give birth to new blood to this industry.
Doesn't mean shit. Less than 5% of anime these days sales that high from year to year and out of that percent less than 1% of them actually deserve it.
Also I.G has had a shit-ton of success in the last 2 years actually. So you should do your homework before spouting shit.
KyoAni doesn't bother to put their name in their shows at all as far as I can tell (then again I just quickly checked around the OP and ED of a couple episodes of KnK and Chuu22).
All better than any TV show that IG has ever made barring Fuujin Monogatari.
>market leaders in military equipment, non-euclidean interior design and gothic inner city architecture
>anime is produced by their marketing department
Mobile Suit Gundam Seed
Kira is #1
If sales are that matters then I guess that makes Infinity ward the best gaming studio on the planet.
KyoAni is the only studio that has TV ads to advertise themselves.
here comes irc
They do matter of course, studios are a business. The best studio from a studios point of view makes the most money and the best anime is the one that sells the most.
robo geisha anime never
When did /a/ start caring about sales? I'm sick of this cancerous dribble all the time.
>tons of success
3 huge flops, 4 moderate to good and one big success.
Fall 2006 - Code Geass
Spring 2009 - K-On!
Summer 2009 - Bakemonogatari
Spring 2010 - K-On!!
Winter 2011 - Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magicka
Fall 2011 - Fate/Zero
Winter 2012 - Nisemonogatari
Spring 2012 - Fate/Zero S2
Filter as you will
>3 huge flops
Name them. if their adaption is doesn't matter because they got paid in advance for them. All their originals minus one in the last 4 years have sold above average and made them money.
SnK has reached a level of success and popularity that only eva knows.
What is this supposed to be? There are all these above 25k.
(2009) *78,671 化物語
(2011) *71,056 魔法少女まどか☆マギカ
(2004) *68,732 機動戦士ガンダムSEED DESTINY
(2006) *61,633 ウサビッチ
(2012) *60,580 偽物語
(2002) *58,589 機動戦士ガンダムSEED
(2007) *53,230 ウサビッチ シーズン2
(2011) *52,133 Fate/Zero
(2008) *52,016 ウサビッチ シーズン3
(2008) *46,147 マクロスF
(2012) *45,804 Fate/Zero 2ndシーズン
(2006) *45,367 コードギアス 反逆のルルーシュ
(2013) *44,606●<物語>シリーズ セカンドシーズン
(2011) *44,544 ウサビッチ シーズン4
(2009) *43,883 けいおん！
(2008) *42,690 コードギアス 反逆のルルーシュ R2
(2006) *42,525 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱
(2010) *39,385 けいおん！！
(2013) *39,101 宇宙戦艦ヤマト2199 (※2012年4月に上映・発売済)
(2003) *36,511 鋼の錬金術師
(2012) *35,879 ソードアート・オンライン
(2012) *35,235 ガールズ&パンツァー
(2008) *34,601 機動戦士ガンダム00 セカンドシーズン
(2008) *34,274 ファイアボール
(2010) *34,108 Angel Beats！
(2011) *33,813 IS <インフィニット・ストラトス>
(2013) *33,520 うたの☆プリンスさまっ♪ マジLOVE2000％
(2007) *33,481 機動戦士ガンダム00
(2011) *31,524 あの日見た花の名前を僕達はまだ知らない。
(2011) *31,019 Persona 4 the ANIMATION
(2007) *29,146 らき☆すた
(2004) *28,537 頭文字D Fourth Stage
(2013) *28,255 ラブライブ！
(2011) *27,829 TIGER & BUNNY
(2006) *26,047 Fate/stay night
(2002) *25,644 あずまんが大王
I responded to the wrong post.
The list wasn't exhaustive because mania was down and rather than search for another source I just grabbed a handful of series from an excel sheet I had lying around.
The SnK anime isn't half as popular as EVA.
(1995) 111,559 新世紀エヴァンゲリオン
56,175 進撃の巨人 (6巻/9巻)
>They do matter of course, studios are a business.
Not him. But if sales are so important then why does I.G contiune to destroy shaft and Kyoani from year to year in Revenue and Operating income?
>contiune to destroy shaft and Kyoani from year to year in Revenue and Operating income
Where do SHAFT and KyoAni report their revenue and operating income? Please go ahead a link to the sources showing this information. You won't.
I bet Trigger team could beat up KyoAni
SHAFT and KyoAni are private corporations.
They don't report their revenue to the public.
KyoAni directors do look weak in comparison to the Trigger guys >>101331456
How? It's not like KLK is anything special; it looks like it was animated by a highschool kid in flash.
So what you're saying is they're small time and and economy along with the Nikkei 225 doesn't care to see how well they do? Alright
Are you trying to say that the quality of a studios work depends on if they are listed on a stock exchange? Thats absurd.
If they're so good, why didn't they go public?
Kid, I.G is on a whole other level of businesses then kyoani or shaft. The have 9 sections 2 of them market products and make commercial for other companies. 1 makes animation for video games. The other 6 make anime.
I.G shits on both year to year in success. Simply because they do much more then just make anime.
Why would they go public?
Publicly traded companies are whores that sell their freedom of creativity
Good companies go public, kid.
As far as I can tell your point has nothing to do with the discussion. I said they can't make a TV show that sells over 25k and are therefore worthless. Nothing to do with how much they do. I couldn't care less.
Fuck off la
IG is more creative and has more freedom then shaft and kyoani
You have no idea what you are talking about. The best answer you could give is
>'its what companies do!!!'
More output = bigger studio
bigger = better
IG is better than SHAFT and KyoAni
>IG is more creative and has more freedom then shaft and kyoani
You got a source for that? You sure seem to love pulling things out your ass.
>(2013) *39,101 宇宙戦艦ヤマト2199 (※2012年4月に上映・発売済)
This makes me happy.
>bigger = better
Evidently not seeing as they can't make a TV show that more than 25 thousand people like, where as SHAFT and KyoAni have no problem.
But you're acting like they're more relevant. That's not true. The studio, I.G is a bigger player in the anime industry then most studios. Them, Sunrise Toei and Ghibli are the biggest in the industry.
Shaft and Kyoani are in the secondary .
IG's creators don't care about the sale numbers.
They just do what they want.
A creative project like Kick Heart could have never been done at SHAFT/Kyoanu.
When is Kill La Kill going to save anime? I'm on ep 10 and it's still poorly animated shonen shit with some half ass messaging about socialism or something
I.G. is big business. Big business is certainly relevant, but they're also creatively bankrupt.
SHAFT and KyoAni are more relevant for TV anime. Who makes popular and well liked TV anime? Certainly not I.G.
Companies go public when they don't have enough money to cover their goals (large projects, staying afloat, expanding, acquisitions, etc) while staying private.
By being a public company, you can pitch products at your own lines of investors and potentially gain enormous amounts of money for projects you otherwise couldn't. Being a private company means you have to front all of your operating costs internally, or you have to get loans or sponsors.
Madhouse did in the Tatami Galaxy OP
>look at me I'm so smart I just read wikipedia XDDDD
[ ! ]
Except literally every show has the animation producer in the OP and ED.
wait until jew king, ancient aliens and rape.
When will they announce there next work?
Why are people arguing over Shaft/IG etc?
IG is a large studio with many divisions, Shaft and Kyoani are smaller outfits with one studio. That doesn't make one any better than the other, it just means that one makes more shows than the other at once.
Don't ever type like that again. Even if you're upset about something for reasons no one can understand.
>You got a source for that?
Here's just a few things I see that makes them more creative then anything shaft or kyoani has done.
>Kick-Heart. An anime short made to sponsor the talent of Japanese animation to the rest of the world.
> A 100% hand-drawn movie they are distributing world wide in the next month or 2.
>More originals then anyone in the industry. Each completely different than the last. No reused school settings, no reused high school hi jinks.
Shaft and KyoAni are scared to go out of that comfort zone of what makes them money. I.G doesn't fucking care.
Kyoani's staff is full of women so they'd obviously lose.
Production IG is too large and faceless. It lacks an identity.
>scared to go out of that comfort zone of what makes them money
But they've done lots of different shows because they liked them. For example all of the arty animation they pulled in Zetsubou Sensei.
No sources what so ever than? I guess it must all be bullshit not that any of what you have written is in support of the claim that they have more creative freedom anyway.
Trigger is fucking shit.
SHAFT has just repeated the Shinbo formula ever since he got there and h was doing it before that aswell.
It's because they aren't one single studio.
Shaft and Kyoani shows have a single identity because it's almost all the same staff working on all of their shows.
Larger studios like Toei, Sunrise and IG have many different teams who work on many shows at once and so each show feels very different.
muh based xD this nigga right here xD
Free was leaving Kyoani's comfort zone...It could have went horribly wrong with a group of all male characters but it sold really good and something they haven't done before.
Zetsubou sensei had parts of episodes animated in entirely different art styles just because SHAFT felt like it.
You mean animation DO.
>IG is a large studio with many divisions, Shaft and Kyoani are smaller outfits with one studio
I'm pretty sure KyoAni has more employees than IG does and has more than one studio but whatever.
It's funny. I come here and I see trigger, shaft and kyoani getting publicity. Outside of here no one really talks about them. I.G Sunrise, Ghibli and Gainax seem to be the only studios people actually know the names of and identify them.
AniDo is Kyoani's Osaka branch. They're credited for animation assistance on every Kyoani show except Haruhi.
Plus the main staff of Free! were all main Kyoani except the director.
You think that is the only SHAFT show this has happened in? Sudden switches in art style are a staple of Shinbo direction. Given there were some more extreme examples in SZS than usual but it really isn't something uniquely creative they did for that show. Its part of Shinbo's style.
That's because Kyoani employs their animators instead of hiring freelancers on a show by show basis.
The only studio I have ever heard anyone mention the name of outside of the internet is Ghibli. Nobody else normal knows who the fuck any of any of those others are.
>forgetting based DEEN and Sakura Trick
forced circle jerking and hype from the minority fan base that resides here
>I'm pretty sure KyoAni has more employees than IG does
>Kyoani Employees 129 (April 2010)
>Production IG Employees 120 (as of December 2012)
Production IG are huge company though!?!!
Speaking of, I am assuming they've released BDs for KLK by now.
It doing okay?
Almost all studios use freelance animators on contract whereas Kyoani animators are paid proper salaries and are actual employees.
Nah, I have seen a shit-ton of blogs and anime websites talk about the 5 I just mentioned. Maybe not gainax as often anymore but I.G has an article about them every other day on ANN.
>outside of the internet
>blogs and anime websites
About 9k too high if you ask me
None of those contain Kyoani. Notice how >>101329871 >>101329956 >>101331905 >>101333853 all clearly have the studios name written out.
KyoAni has 160 employees as of October 2010.
It still makes me laugh, that they are people that actually believe this.
Someone is spreading misinformation.
Kyoani is a public company not a private one.
Shaft is (or was?) this
>None of those contain Kyoani
Is this bait?
>Being THIS stupid
Go back to wherever you came from.
>he cant even read nip
Your opinion counts for nothing all your knowledge comes from regurgitation of the ignorant opinions of other westerners.
It still makes me laugh, that they are people that actually believe this isn't a joke.
This whole thread has been misinformation from the small minority fan bases that resides here. I.G is not comparable to shaft or kyoani. It's more reasonable to compare them to sunrise toei etc..
It still makes me laugh, that there are people that don't think any studio is taking risks in creating its first Original anime.
Except Production I.G cant compete with SHAFT or KyoAni on TV shows.
It was an original production by them so yeah sure. Popular manga artists have their name flashed hugely in the anime adaptions plenty of times.
SHAFT always put their name on stuff for a laugh.
KyoAni just aren't westaboos, they only write their name in their magical moonrunes.
Big names is about all of the good in the show.
IG normally has multiple TV shows airing at once.
Right now they're doing Kuroko no Basuke and Diaya no Ace at the same time.
We KNOW they're capable of much more, they just don't have the budget... yet.
Well, that's the studio's name.
Coincidentally, SHAFT (as far as I know) always uses シャフト in credits.
What is your point supposed to be?
They can't compete in terms of the popularity of their shows.
You know shaft has only made 2 shows to reach high popularity has success right? In the last decade they have only had 3 shows break 10k. I.G has had 7. Hell just last year I.G beat both kyoani and shaft. With PP, Garaganti SnK and Kuroko 2. Shaft had to rely on the only 2 shows to have made them real money to be successful. Madoka movie(which doesn't count because it's a movie not a tv anime) and mono season 3.
And? Are you implying sales=quality?
Yes, Anpanman is the greatest show ever made
SHAFT makes money on Hidamari Sketch too. Each season sold 9k and it's really cheap to animate
I'm implying that SHAFT and KyoAni are more important, relevant and better at making TV anime than Production I.G.
That was for you, obviously
SHAFT isn't one of the producers.
Hidamari is produced by Aniplex, Houbunsha and Movic. SHAFT is only getting paid to animate it.
>more important, relevant and better at making TV anime than Production I.G.
Then why can't they put out as many shows out as fast? Why did both get raped>>101337411
by I.G last year in terms of success?
I.G come nowhere near SHAFT just look at the post above yours.
>SHAFT is only getting paid to animate it.
because of 2 shows. You might as well put on that as a side not that they have only made 3 relevant shows.
I hate generalising studios as being good or bad
Personally I think all three of Shaft, Kyoani and IG have put out some great shows and also some complete shit.
It's hard to say who is more relevant too. IG makes more shows, but they generally sell less. They also do more mainstream shounen adaptations. Shaft only really has two big hits (one of which is an adaptation). Kyoani are pretty relevant but their sales have been largely mediocre recently.
(2013) *4,232 よんでますよ、アザゼルさん。Z
(2013) *8,936 翠星のガルガンティア
(2013) **,857 げんしけん 二代目
(2013) *1,388 ささみさん＠がんばらない
(2013) 44,606 <物語>シリーズ セカンドシーズン (3巻/12巻)
(2013) *3,684 たまこまーけっと
(2013) 29,433 Free！ (5巻/6巻)
(2013) *6,524 境界の彼方 (1巻/7巻)
No matter which way you want to split it IG is the loser there.
Am I being tricked here or am I just hugely fucking dense. I've been staring at this image for five minutes, where does this say anything about Bones?
>leaving KnB S2 off.
They have made 50+ shows. only 3 could even break 3k.
You're using absolute values when you should be using a relative scale. Production I.G. is all about volume. Shaft has a much higher rate of success, especially so in the past 5 years.
The yellow block with the black < thing is the BONES logo.
>not including Shingeki
SnK is basically IG.
>being this retarded
It goes squarely under Wit Studio according to nips.
Not counted that way by the Japanese. You might aswell start putting all the Xebec shows on there aswell then right?
>no pp, no snk, no kuroko
Fuck you and your bias ass
>>being this retarded
KnB S2 is a 2013 IG show and it's going to sell at least 15k.
>my bias ass
They come straight from the nip wiki for sales listed by studio PP is 2012, Kuroko 2nd only went on sale 29/1/14 and SnK is under Wit Studio.
IG made Wet happening, it wasn't just people running away and doing their own shit. And the main studio ended up playing part in the making anyway.
might as well. Since they're I.G port and they make them money. I.G was the reason the they sold so well. They provided the extra content with every bundle.
Its not had any data published yet we cant exactly compare its sales.
Well thank you kindly, I was unaware.
Not so soon I guess.
They'll most likely move on to Little Witch Academia 2 while still doing some KLK related works and other miscellaneous comissions like video games or anime OP's/animated sequences.
Then probably some new Inferno Cop and then they will have a new big project.
These things take time and alcohol after all.
Those are references to famous older shows apparently from before you discovered anime. Just saying.
Ah right. I thought it had data already.
The fujoshi will make it sell 20k or something even though the second season has been shit compared to the first
I think they will most probably work as a normal studio and adapt some shit someone pay them for.
They made a trailer for one painfully generic manga some weeks ago after all.
Lets try 2012
(2012) *9,795 氷菓
(2012) 15,466 中二病でも恋がしたい！
(2012) 60,580 偽物語
(2012) *7,416 ひだまりスケッチ×ハニカム
(2012) *7,475 新テニスの王子様
(2012) 24,459 黒子のバスケ
(2012) **,*** シャイニング・ハーツ ～幸せのパン～
(2012) *8,474 PSYCHO-PASS
(2012) *1,080 Robotics;Notes
Looks pretty close between SHAFT and IG there.
This Tuesday I think.
you fags make me laugh.
Can't wait till I.Gs Volleyball vs Shafts Mekaku City Actors goes head to head this spring. Plenty shit will be flinging both ways
>Then probably some new Inferno Cop and then they will have a new big project.
HOW? How can they top the greatest anime ever made?
It is currently ranked #1 on the daily oricon ranking for anime sales. So it will probably be a decent number of sales.
How does your math even work?
Maybe if you ignore costs and only count revenue.
Every year shaft has to rely on mono or madoka. Pathetic.
>Having a fanbase
Hahaha, oh wow.
I meant to type KyoAni.
Except this very year when Mekaku.
They make shows that people like and want more of. Fucking monsters.
Guess you haven't seen this thread then. Talking about those anime sales thread too.
But I like both Haikyuu and Kagerou Project and will be happily enjoying them both.
Plus Haikyuu is mainstream shounen sports that'll be airing airing at prime time so I doubt SHAFT will be able to compete with it.
It's as if they thought they did a good work.
I still like them
>One faggot samefagging
Not even Yamakan is this delusional.
Glad they don't. It doesn't make them cancerous and I can actual like the studio
>2nd best selling LN in Japan
>unable to compete with shitty sports manga
Everytime I see Yoshinari, I get a boner
Meant to quote this one
It's the difference between a late night show and one airing at 5pm on Sundays.
Kagerou project's anime will likely sell more discs but I doubt it will be more popular in general than a WSJ adaptation will be. And after all, adaptations can easily get by on source material sales boosts as IG are just being paid by Shueisha to animate.
yes when it hasn't proved how well it can sell yet. yes.
Inferno Cop: The Second Patrol
True,but we are talking about.Original anime without subscribing to what is heavily selling right now.
I'm not a big fan of SnK,but Wit studio was taking risks with it and that was an adaptation.They got lucky in the end.
Trigger is doing the same with KLK and so far they are doing well too.
Kyoani's case is a bit different but they were still taking risks by getying out of their comfort zone with Free!.
>Wit studio was taking risks with it
>Trigger is doing the same with KLK
>it hasn't been proved
>top selling albums
>most viewed videos on nico
>sell out live concert events
>2nd highest selling LN franchise
Come the fuck on if it doesn't get 20k at least its a flop.
I just want Kyoani to do a full 180 and do a fully fantasy action show with an unusual art style one day.
I miss KyoAni's nifty English logo, and when Shaft actually used 'SHAFT'. Things were better then.
>if it doesn't get 20k at least its a flop
Source material sales often mean very little though.
There's a huge difference between the number of people willing to spend 500 yen on an LN and 7000yen on two anime episodes. Many adaptations flop whilst their source is very popular.
More like Inferno Cop 1.11: You Can (Not) Convict
Nothing about what Wit did with SnK was risky, unless you count terrible schedule management as "risky".
>when Shaft actually used 'SHAFT'
When was that?
>There's a huge difference between the number of people willing to spend 500 yen on an LN
What about the number of people willing to spend 2-3k yen on albums or more on event tickets?
As late as 2005, at least.
they have done it trust me I have seen every SHAFT show I just cant remember which though.
I though it was Tatsunoko?
>has an extremely high budget, fully animated intro like Kill La Kill
>the actual episode is still piss poor flash
Make this happen Trigger.
KyoAni still uses it.
But not as early as '87, presumably because they didn't have much of an identity at that point.
I've definitely seen it, now I'm going to have to search through my archives to find out when.
Adaptation with 50/50 chance of being succesful.But you know,I think I should rethink what I said,isn't studio Wit a part if I.G?
Look at them.Like Wit,the are new,but they don't have a lot of budget,not adapting from any other other source like a manga or VN and not pandering to moeshit.Sure,it has fanservice but it aren't the previously mentioned reasons risky enough for a first long anime?
This, just look at snk.
Before it aired it was ranked 15th in the top selling manga. All the higher selling manga before it had anime adaptions already. Most only sold around 5k. Yet somehow snk broke away and sold 50k+.
Nothing is guaranteed anything and stuff you don't even suspect to be successful can break away and become successful.
WIT's Hoozuki has been outperforming Niseko for 2 weeks now. It looks like it will sell better than shaft's manga adaption this winter. Which I'm not surprised by since shaft is overrated. At least here.
Shingeki no Kyojin adaptation had funding up its ass. WIT wasn't taking any sort of risk.
Trigger is not investing any of its own money into it. Instead Papa Holding Company is investing in it and Papa Holding Company has money pooled from four different animation studios as well as from outside investors. Also, Kill la Kill is also funded by Aniplex and various others.
>not pandering to moeshit
Man I'd fucking work for trigger. We can nerd it out all day.
Hahahaha. Good one.
>WIT's Hoozuki has been outperforming Niseko for 2 weeks now
Based WIT. This will probably be I.Gs best port and best decision they have made to make a new studio.
This isnt just a random manga or LN though.
Its a multimedia project selling extremely well and performing extremley well in music, video, live events and light novels. It would be more surprising if it failed than if it did ridiculously well.
Whoops, Rec is actually '06. PPD was '05. Guess I've got brain problems.
Sorry, I can't help myself.
>this isnt just a random manga or LN though.
yes, and those manga that had their very own adaptions that were out selling snk weren't any random manga's either. Yet they couldn't break 5k in sales. Nothing is guaranteed is all I'm saying. If what you're saying is true it might have a good chance of selling but there's no way to know for sure. I thought nisekoi would be doing a lot better. But it isn't
The point is though those were just manga or LN adaptations this is a hugely successful multimedia project it's nowhere near the same.
Reminder IG wouldn't even exist if it weren't for KyoAni
>Kyoani is a public company not a private one.
Hahaha. Please share their ticker symbol then.