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Does anyone know where I should start if I'm gonna be a manga artist? I don't just wanna draw I also want to make the animations for them. If I go to college for it what am I going for? Or what school would I go to? Anyone have school recommendations? Or know someone who went to school for the same thing. I am so confused about where to start
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>>101293413
Sauce is "Michiko to hatchin".
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>>>/ic/
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Are you Japanese?
If not don't expect to get anywhere.
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See if you can find a Japanese woman willing to do unbirthing with you because if you're not born Japanese the best you can hope for is to be ShindoL.
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Hmm, you have a point there...well I could still look into working for a company like funimation or something
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>>101293766
Hold up; ShindoL isn't japanese?
The author of TSF Monogatari is gaijin?
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>>101293830
>wants to be an artist/animator
>guess I can work for funimation

Nigger, what are you doing?
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>>101293413
You just won't make it outside japan, because everywhere else the market is too scarce and everything worth writing home about is imported.

If you move to Japan, Learn Japanese, and get anywhere with this dream of yours....
Yeah... Your chances of getting serialized are slim.

One can only achieve everything, by being able to abandon everything. Nothing is ever guaranteed.
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>>101293872

Shindo L is Japanese American, you know, one of those asian-looking people who were always playing Pokemon. Even then, I hear returning students from abroad can still be teased.
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I've been studying Japanese for a year and I have a really good understanding about it. I've also thought about living in japan. If all else fails I'm going to be a translator.
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>>101293413

http://comicsworthreading.com/2013/09/02/wannabe-mangaka-learns-theres-no-american-market-for-manga-style-art/
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>>101293989

Yeah, you technically "can" make it, but it involves more than just being an artist in America. You also have to abandon any single idea of shaking things in the industry up, Japan doesn't work in that fashion in any capacity, anywhere. They abhor trouble makers and will ignore and isolate you from their lives. Otherwise, you've got OELs, which no one reads, and tend to have ugly art.
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>>101294191
Yes, that also sells well in Japan, but you will need to know language in depth.
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Just give up on the idea now. There's plenty of people who want to be mangaka but don't realize what it takes. Unless you're Japanese, it's probably not happening.
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>manga artist
This is when you realize being a comic artist is the same thing. Going to Japan and trying to get into their industry is just going to be suicide. Learn how to actually draw instead of making OEL tier garbage and you won't have a problem in the west.
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>>101293872
Yup.
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>>101293413
>ITT: an OP who has no frigging idea what they're doing, and a very tenuous grasp of reality.

As someone willing to bet everything on becoming an artist; this thread honestly insults me.

When's a mod going to come by and delete this?
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>>101293413
No.
Let me just tell you to stay on the ground and don't get shot down on this sortie.
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Hmm..maybe you're right. My plan c was always to be a chef so I guess that's a lot more in my reach
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>>101294395
why does it insult you specifically? It insults me because this shit can be googled pretty easily
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>>101294395

At least Japan has a good market for aspiring artists to make a name for themselves; America has nothing like the independent publishing scene Japan has. I'd say aiming for that is a somewhat attainable goal, of course assuming you still move to Japan, have decent art, and speak/write Japanese at a fluent capacity.
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I know I could Google this but I like hearing people like you bitch about it.
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>>101293413
Technically, OP, by /a/ standards you can't be a mangaka if you're a gaijin. Anything you'll make will be filthy /co/ tier shit regardless of style.

But yeah, that's just /a/. The standard isn't unfounded though. I mean, by definition, mango are made by japanese people.

Anyway, study animation I guess? There are courses specifically made for those. Then just draw and draw. You won't get anywhere telling everyone you want to be a mango artist.

Then there's the issue of getting into the publishing scene. To be honest, you'll have more fun going on by yourself.

Seriously, all you need is to be good in what you do.
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>>101294611
which is unlikely, is there anyone not Japanese who's sold well to the japs?
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>>101294737
Freezing
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The only huge reason why I really wanted to be one was because its so easy drawing anime like I'd get paid to fucking draw and write a storyline and I got really good at drawing it
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>>101294800
He meant Asian, not Japanese.
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>>101294848
Wow, really. You should give up on it then. You have no idea how hard it can go.
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>>101293413
>Go to college
>To draw cartoons

I'm not sure if I would call you confused OP, I'd probably call you fucking retarded. Thankfully for you though, you don't need a lot of brains to draw pictures.
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>>101294848

This OP has to be a troll. No one can be this stupid.
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>>101294800
maybe should have specified that I meant is there any american/western author who's made it japan.

my heart raced thinking an american made Freezing
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>>101294548
>>101294611
Just the bullshit of "I guess I'll become an artist, if that doesn't work out I guess I'll become a translator or something," it's annoying when people think it's just that simple to become a successful working artist, or that having such a weak resolve will actually equate to success. You have to put everything you've got into becoming an artist, no matter the medium.

I'd argue that certain parts of the US have a very strong indie comic culture, and to assume non-superhero stuff has no market in N. America is to ignore stuff like Scott Pilgrim.
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>>101294848
>its so easy drawing anime
Someone clearly has no idea what being a mangaka in Japan is like.
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>>101294848
that's insulting. post some drawings
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>>101294848
Watch Bakuman to help your dreams along the way to being crushed.
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>>101294848
>confirmed for ruse if it wasn't already obvious.

Pack up guys, party's over.
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>>101294988
That or a 14 year old. I think it fits his delusional outlook in life based on his posts. Looks like a newfriend too considering he's doesn't know how to quote anyone.
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I can put work into something I'm just trying to make sure I know what the fuck I'm getting into before I go all the way.
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>>101294737
Far i was remember there one brazilian
descendant who have a somewhat selling manga.
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>>101294848
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>>101295206
And that manga was bleach.

HUE HUE HUE
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>>101295152
See
>>101295131

I'm only recommending you this because it will stop your idiotic dreams and you'll settle down in a desk job in the end.
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>>101295152
Look up a mangaka's working schedule to see how it will destroy your life.

Look at their average paycheck to understand it's a tough decision whethef you would make more money cleaning up people's shit.
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>>101295311
bakuman was pretty optimistic. At the end of the day artist wins at life
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>>101295206
I don't doubt it, brazil has a strange relationship with Japan
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>>101295418
Yeah, but as far as I got into it, it was pure hell.
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Post some of your drawings, OP. I hate it when people think drawing anime is "easy". I practice frequently and my work is still pretty terrible.
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>>101295206
Are you talking about Peepo Choo? That sold well?
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>>101295013

There was only one American that made it up the ladder to become a head animator, for a time, but then the anime bubble burst:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/anncast/2012-05-04

His/Her story probably would never be repeated again.
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>>101295469
Check out the books of Andrew Loomis, there's some free PDFs, and recently they've been reprinted.
Figure drawing for all it's worth is a great book, I just finished reading it last night, and am going to basically wring as much drawing practice as I can out of it.
It'd be useful regardless of your style or genre.
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i'm going to make a manga for shits and giggles
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Camera quality is a little shitty
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You probably should just make comics in your own country.
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>>101295703
This is ground breaking art you've got here. They should hire you.
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For someone who is 15 who has been drawing since 12 that's pretty legit. I free hand this I don't trace
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>>101295703
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>>101295494
Actually, Kamiya Yuu. Pic related.
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>>101295703
Drawing quality is a little shitty too.

Learn2anatomy
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>>101295805
>>101295703
it's ogre
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>>101295703
you have a future unlike all the untalented hacks before you
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You know I don't trace cause you can see mistakes its not perfect but legit
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>>101295805
>15

Suddenly everything's so clear! Underage b& pls mods
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>>101295821
>a little shitty
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>>101295805
>For someone who is 15
Haha. HAHA. HAHAHAHA

Show's over guys.
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>>101295934
It's a lot shitty, but then the joke wouldn't work so well.

Jesus Christ, this kid talks like he fucking knows something.
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why do you keep needing to say you didn't trace?

did you trace and fuck it up?
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>>101295805
>for someone who's 15
Top HUE
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>>101295703
>>101295805
>>101295905
Holy fuck. Give up now you fucking faggot. Your art is shit. Every time we get one of you faggots it's always the same. Hope you enjoyed us giving you the hard cold facts.
>15
Hope you enjoy getting banned.
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Unless you're as talented as Paul Pope or luck out like Felipe Smith don't bother. If you want to become and animator go the computer graphics route.
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OP, please go to animenewsnetwork instead. They can give you, em, proper advice that you won't find in /a/.
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>>101295905
You're not tracing, but you're still copying other people's work and your original stuff is terrible. The only hope for you is that you can legitimately pick out faults, but then you fuck that hope in the ass when you still think it's good enough to show to other people rather than re-fucking-do.

I don't care if this is a ruse by this point, if that's your drawing anon, go to >>>/ic/ and read their fucking guides and realise you've got an insane amount of practice in front of you, or just drop the pen and fail now rather than in a decades time.
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>>101295703
>>101295805
>>101295905
You're amazing, OP. You don't even need to learn Japanese, just fly to Japan with your pictures and start showing them your art. You'll become a mangaka in no time.
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JESUS I GET IT. Anyway I'll keep it as a hobby. Thank you guys who gave legit advice without being an ass about it even if you were trolling.
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>>101296275

Enjoy your ban turbofag
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>>101296275
JESUS, HE GETS IT!
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>this is now an art thread specially tailored to crush OP's dreams

You have to be at least this good to matter. And evern with that, your chances are still pretty slim.
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>>101296352
Okay wait, never mind. Resizing these pixiv stuff to fit the file limit is too troublesome.
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>>101294611
>America has nothing like the independent publishing scene Japan has.
Oh /a/, ignorant as always. Independent scene exists in America and it's pretty damn good.
What about manga? Doujin scene? Porn and fanfics?
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>>101296352
The perspective and foreshortening on that is kinda iffy, nice though.

I wonder if the kid can actually take the advice and go to /ic/ or read Loomis as was mentioned before.

Buuuut if he's just going to immediately give up and make it a hobby just because some people on the internet said nasty things then he was never cut out for it anyways.

I'll contribute a Huke
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>>101293830
No animating, only voiceover/sound, translating, advertisement, and actual buisness.
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>>101296624
Most doujins are non-h.
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>>101296869
I've always wondered about the ratio of hentai stuff to non-H at things like comiket, and on top of that, the ratio of original to derivative works.
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if you want to succed you need to know what pacing is

nobody seems to know what it is but its the most important gear that makes the whole meachanism working
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>>101297011
Is pacing something that can really be learnt to any degree though? I've always felt it was just gut instinct.
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OP's retardation aside, does anyone have those links/threads that used to float around about learning how to draw? Or the right keyword to look up in the archive?

I feel like learning to draw would be beneficial for my writing.
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>>101297217
>>>/ic/
They've got guides in the sticky; I found Loomis through it, pretty good.

At the end of the day, if you just practice regularly, and pick out all your faults and constantly try and rectify them you'll see an improvement. Still life stuff would probably be the easiest model you'll have on hand, unless you can con a friend into modelling for you for free.
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>>101297736
>Loomis Lite 4 furries

Not that it isn't right or anything
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>>101298042
I'm going to blatantly /r/equest that image of how to do skin, plus under different light and situations, in digital media.

The guy uses little spheres, that end up looking a little gross from uncanny valley stuff.

Anyone have it?
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>>101297736
Jesus Christ that 3/4 angled eye, what the fuck.
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>>101298394
Oh shit, I didn't even notice, what the fuck is up with that modelling?

In comparrison, there's this:
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>>101296991

Depends on the series. More popular franchises tend to get higher ratio of non-H doujin: Touhou, Madoka, etc. Half of the doujin in the Madoka Library torrent is non-H.



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