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HOMURA DID NOTHING WRONG
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She spawned a bunch of retarded and obnoxious fanboys that are better off dying in a inferno.
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>>101282120
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>>101282120
That's right.
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>>101282299
>worst girl who embodies false, shallow "love"
>doesn't like best girl who embodies true, selfless love
all is in order here it seems
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It doesn't matter if she's right or wrong, morality is subjective. You guys should stop trying to put everything in boxes.
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>>101282625
Which Homu do you prefer?

Homulilly? Homummando?
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>>101282670
>It doesn't matter if she's right or wrong, morality is subjective.
>morality is subjective
I bet your one of them faggots that thinks QB is a benevolent guy too huh you faggot?
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>>101282871
I'm okay with Kyubey. I don't really agree with him, but I don't condemn him.
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>>101283007
>everything bad that ever happened is all his fault
>I don't condemn him
faggot confirmed
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What happened in the ending, I didn't watch the film
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>>101283178
everyone dies
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>>101283254
Wait what? Details please and how is Homura to blame?
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>>101283135
He's only striving to achieve his own goal. Unfortunately, people get hurt at his expense. He's a lot like your average person actually. I don't think there's anything wrong with hurting other people to get what you want. Go ahead and pretend that being selfless is the proper way to live though.
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>>101282805
Gothloli Homu is forever best Homu
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>>101283306
Homura lies
Madoka dies.
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>>101283178
Just watch the camrip if you want to know what happened, any explanation you get from some random dude on /a/ is most likely to be largely incoherent.
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>>101283404
Is it that hard for you to form a proper sentence?

>>101283435
For crying out loud, why is /a/ the only board like this?
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>>101283581
What board do you usually frequent?

You watching the movie will solve any doubts. The comments will NEVER suffice that.
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>>101283326
No no no you don't get to pull that bullshit and here's why

normal people sometimes hurt people on the way to seeking their goals. if the means is too drastic though, the goal is not worth it.

dysfunctional people seek their goal even if they knowingly have to hurt people to do so. the end justifies the means, all detractors be damned.

psychotic people's goal IS to hurt people, so there's no difference between the means and the end and no conflict therein, because the more people you hurt the better you are doing

kyubey falls into the last of these. fuck off faggot.
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>>101283581
Rebellion is fairly complicated, everyone has their own interpretation of it. It's for the best that you form your own idea of what happened.
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>>101283672
Real films and anime are much different

I don't even watch anime any more since it involves little development or actual plot itself, I only watch very few ones that are actually worth viewing like Love Lab, plus I never enjoyed this type of anime so I'm not going to lose out on anything.
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>>101283798
So, why in the fucking world did you ask then? What was the point of that?
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>>101283798
If you didn't care about it, you wouldn't be trying to find out what happened. Or in this thread in the first place.
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>>101283697
>psychotic people's goal IS to hurt people,
That is not true. His goal is to gather enough energy to sustain the life of the universe for as long as possible. It just so happens that the most profitable way to do this is to subjugate teen girls. If there was a way to sustain the universe that was as profitable as the Magical Girl system, he'd use that and you know it.
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question...

why does everyone agree on the term "madokami" but nobody seems to like "homurakuma"? is it because people could confuse it with homu being a grizzly bear? cause that would be terrifying.
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>>101283935
It's "Akuma Homura".
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>>101283844
Please just tell me, I'm at your mercy
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>>101283978
less aesthetic
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>>101283697
>Kyubey is psychotic, his goal is to hurt people
Let me help you out. The Incubators are working to fight entropy and increase the overall energy of the universe--replace energy with happiness and you get utilitarianism. It's not a complicated analogy, anon.
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>>101283935
Who the fuck care? People call her as they want to
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>>101283935
Akemi->Akuma is what makes it fit so well, but the aesthetics are lost in translation, so I completely understand why some people use Homucifer.
Therefore, why not just have them be interchangeable? I never complained about Godoka either. It works.
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>>101284052
It's a scant two hours long. I know you can do it.
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>>101282120
On the contrary, Homura didn't do a thing right.

It takes an extra retarded lesbian yandere bitch to fuck things up as bad as she did.
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>>101284270
Alright then, just throw me a link then
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>>101283978
But it's actually homucifer.
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>>101284164
>fight entropy
>creating energy from nowhere
>we are bound by thermodynamics so we are going to break thermodynamics that way thermodynamics will work
fucking half-assed bullshit-tier "science"
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Guys! Stop fighting! Sayaka is trying to get some rest.

Shhhhh!
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>>101284339
Not on /a/.
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>>101284415
I thought you liked Sayaka.
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>>101284381
Because it's not about science. It's about the characters. Look up Dramatism. Kenneth Burke is an intelligent man and you may find his writings very thought-provking.
>>101284321
look it up on nyaa.se
You want [Homusubs] translation
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Can someone tell me when the BD are going to be released?
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>>101284559
http://wiki.puella-magi.net
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FUN FACT: none of this tragedy would have happened in the first place if homu had just wished for breasts
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>>101284495
I do! That's why I want the fighting to stop and to let her get some sleep.
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>>101284778
That would make for a very boring story.
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>>101282120
愛よ
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>>101284381
Universe is running out of usable energy. Magic creates new energy by way of magic. Not complicated.
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>>101284923
Why don't they just build a machine that recycles energy?
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Yes she did
She kept time traveling for selfish reasons
Potentially killing others for her own selfish reasons
In the worst form of time travel ever
Also shes a bitch
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So what happened at the end?
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>>101284852
>what is SoL
i'll bet you didn't even like Wide either.
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>>101284415
Kevin, even though you are a Sayaka-fag, I like you. I just thought I should say that.
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It's funny in EVERY Madoka Thread there is ALWAYS One dude who just started to watch Madoka or want to watch it because he heard about it and then he asks for a torrent link
or he is watching it during the thread and post stupid thing
or there is always this same dude asking if he should watch the two movie or the 12 episodes serie and if they are different/if the movies are worth watching
or there is someone asking when the BD of Rebellion are going to be released
The worst thing is, these people have (most of the time) serious answer

There is always the same thing asked in every Madoka thread at least once
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>>101284954
Why don't YOU just build a machine that recycles energy, if you're so clever?
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not canon lol
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>>101284989
Thanks!

>>101285006
I did! That's why we don't have magical girls in our timeline.

Sorry. ;_;
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>>101285005
what's "Rebellion"? is it good? do i watch that first or the other stuff?
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Ok so Homura is keeping the Law of Cycles system purely for pragmatic reasons right? It's not in honor of Madoka's sacrifice because she's convinced herself that she should have worked harder to keep Madoka from ever becoming a goddess. It's purely because a Wraith system is better than a Witch system in terms of keeping Madoka safe.
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I really didn't get the ending, could someone explain it to me?
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>>101285005
>The worst thing is, these people have (most of the time) serious answer
No spoonfeeding has died. People give out links and sources all the time now.
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>>101285005
Right, but if we turned Madoka threads into generals and made an OP post that lays everything out for newbies, a lot of anons would throw a fit. Plus generals can become stagnant if people have nothing to talk about and so they talk about nothing.
You just can't please everyone, ha ha.
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>>101285006
>>101284954
"recycling" energy does nothing to affect entropy. stop pretending like you know what you're talking about.
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>>101285141
>Magical girls reverse entropy.

Why don't you stop talking about stuff you don't know.
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>>101285119
And fucking global mods said that spoonfeeding doesn't break any rules.


Fuck them, they posted that shit here on /a/. It's almost like they want to see /a/ dead. Kinomod is our only ally here.
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>>101285106
I didn't get the ending either
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>>101284923
>I need to torture this girl or else the universe will end in 1000 trillion years!
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>>101285075
Kevin once again confirmed for worse than Hitler.
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>>101285192
>no reading comprehension
stop responding, it just makes you look dumber
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>>101285205
Yes, that's correct. I'm glad you were paying attention.
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>>101285272
Everyday Kevin wakes up and thinks to himself: "Hmm, how can I make myself look stupid on /a/ today?" Don't mind him.
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>>101285257
Hmm well on one hand Kevin offers better pictures than Hitler...but then again Hitler did paint his pictures himself and Kevin just takes them from the internet.

Quite the conundrum.
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>>101285098
Eh? Homura agrees with the cause that Madoka fought for. She just doesn't think it should come at the cost of Madoka's happiness as a human. That's why, even as a demon, she still vows to fight the wraiths with Kyubey.
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>>101285272
Don't talk to me like that. I happen to know more about entropy than you'll ever know.
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The ending pretty much ruined the whole franchise for me.

Homura was a selfish fucking bitch, if you don't think she was then you REALLY need to explain to me how she wasn't.

In details too, not this retarded "HURR DURR HOMURA DID NUTHIN WRONG"
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>>101285378
Blame Shitbo
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>STILL NO LONDON SCREENINGS
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>>101285370
>titty monster corrupting the symbolic purpose of Madokami's 'window'
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>>101285378
No ones going to explain shit to a retard with a bad attitude. Fuck off you brain dead imbecile.
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How come magical girls don't know where witches come from?
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>>101285378
Confirmed for never having loved someone.
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>>101285435
Give up man. At least you're better than that anon reminding us that countries like mine didn't have a single show.
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>>101285470
>I can't explain anything, I'm a total fucktard

Thank you for proving me right, I knew the people who defended Homura's actions were retarded losers like you >>101285502 and you too
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>>101285349
I can't really get logic out of that. So she likes that Madoka is self-sacrificing but at the same time does everything in her power to make sure Madoka never does anything for anyone ever?

The only reason things aren't more clear is because as far as we know Homura was allowed to get away with this without fucking up the universe. If we actually learned that witches would return or that Magical Girls no longer have an afterlife I'm sure less people would support Homura's actions.
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>>101285378
She did everything for Madoka, though. Just like in the series. It makes perfect sense given her character.
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>>101285524
>he thinks he can goad people into explaining simple shit to him
Keep trying, one day you'll get it.
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>>101285125
>Implying I want Madoka General
This would be the worst thing ever mad, I hate General more than anything
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can someone explained to me why sayaka remembered madoka?
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>>101285615
Explain to me how it was simple, just defend the ending like a normal human being, unless you're just trying troll and have any lack of intelligence in your worthless mind.
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Do you think we'll ever get an atmospheric OVA recounting Bowmura's journey, giving us a greater worldview of the Madoka universe and presenting an episodic look into the many aspects of humanity?

It would play out somewhere in between Mushishi and Shuumatsu no Laughter.
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>>101285745
No.
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>>101285745
No, who gives a shit about that Judas.
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>>101285378
Please don't blame homura.
She is obsessive and mentally unstable.
She is not fit to make decisions.
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>>101285617
All I'm saying is that newbies want to be spoonfed and people who aren't from the 'Golden Age' of /a/ (I use that term a bit chidingly) want to spoonfeed them. Why not be pragmatic and make the process efficient?
A general isn't needed, but I'm thinking of making a pastebin that answers all the questions at once.
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>>101285378
Well it's lucky it's not an ending
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>>101285874
>She is not fit to make decisions

Funny, Homura thinks the exact same thing about Madoka.
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>>101285874
>She is obsessive and mentally unstable.

but that's because she has ____love_____
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>>101285875
There's pastebins about Gundam, Eva and Haruhi (both pastebins and images explaining everything you need to know) and sadly that solves nothing.
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>>101285875
Why does everyone keep spoiling pragmatic

Is this some running joke of which I am unaware
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>>101285681
Homura did what she did for Madoka's benefit (in her mind), even if it meant hurting Madoka. This is how she has always behaved, even back in the series. She feels strongly about this obligation because of the promise she made to Madoka before killing her. Also, after Madoka's wish, she began to feel as if Madoka never even existed at times and that perhaps she just imagined the whole thing. She was lost, afraid, lonely, miserable, and going insane. After learning that perhaps it may be better for Madoka to reverse her wish and remove her from godhood, she jumped on the opportunity (possibly because she never accepted Madoka's wish in the first place). Boiling it down to "she's a selfish bitch" is asinine and it's probably the reason no one was interested in responding seriously to you.
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>>101285952
DUUUUUALISM
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>>101285745
>episodic look into the many aspects of humanity?
Why would humanity matter? Wouldn't they be oblivious to the whole magical girl business?
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>>101286086
Bam, I got a response of how it ended without seeing this garbage.

Thanks for being my bitch, I'm out
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>>101286206
>i was only pretending to be retarded
Cute.
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>>101286206
Congrats man. You realize you could have just looked up a summary online.
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>>101286115
>they'll use this cliche as fuck ending
>Muh deconstruction of magical girls!
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Madoka and Homura can never come to a compromise because they are fundamentally different in philosophy. Fight me.
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>>101286341
What if one or both of them changes their mind?
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>>101286056
No big running joke, just a reference to a thread from not too long ago. I like to use it to see how many people follow Madoka threads regularly.
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>>101286382
Maybe Madoka, but Homura probably won't change after all she's been through. She's at least somewhat concerned with her efforts not being wasted.
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>>101286056
http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/96354803/
Homu a pragmu.
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>>101286206
After 1 hour and a half. Congratulations I guess.
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>>101286450
>Madoka goes too far into selfishness and becomes a bitch that only cares about herself
>Homura dies inside

Ok I don't really want that but fuck Homura for making Madoka so worthless. Makes me look forward to her suffering if a sequel ends up happening.
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>look up this show
>it's like a sentai series but using magic instead of science
>also they are all little girls
>pink
>red
>yellow
>blue
>purple

>no green
not even worth its salt without green, why do you force yourself through this suffering?
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>>101283798
>I only watch very few ones that are actually worth viewing like Love Lab
oh god I'm laughing so hard right now
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>>101286546
I feel kind of sad for missing all those threads in October to December when I was avoiding spoilers. Worth it though, seeing it in theaters not knowing what was going to happen was amazing.
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This is boring. Let's play L4D2 together.
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>>101286625
Green a shit.
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>>101286198
Because humanity has always been a central concept to the series. The curses of men that wraiths feed on could provide an interesting premise, if they work anything like witches' kisses do, but on a larger and more subdued scale.
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>>101286587
Homura is kind of like an overprotective parent. She doesn't deserve to suffer anymore after everything she's done for Madoka, but Madoka should make it clear that she can take care of herself.
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>>101286270
>>101286569

Yeah I know that you feel bad about being dominated but life is like that sometimes, I'm the alpha dog. Also it wasn't even 30 minutes to get my response.

Now I'm officially out, enjoy feeling butthurt about this. You were my sissies that got their boypussy pounded. It felt good too
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>>101286796
Enjoy your perceived sense of superiority.
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>>101286796
Man, /b/ fucked up your mind.
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>>101286796
>hey guys explain something to me I don't get it
>fuck off retard
>you only won't explain it because you're stupid
>no, were not explaining it because you're a literal retard
>faggots i knew you don't know what you're talkng about, i'm right.
>explanation
>haha got you
Is this why people avoid explaining shit on /a/?
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>>101286715
No one wants to play with you because you're a fag.
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>>101285745
>Shuumatsu no Laughter
Fuck yes. This is a must-read, and extremely relevant to anyone who is interested in Homura's inner struggles.
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>>101287299
Well to be fair, you guys were huge assholes to him first
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>>101286715
Today's my day to catch up with the week's anime, but... what's your steam?
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>>101287299
>Someone asks nicely about an ending
>Insulting them like autistic retards
>Think they're in the wrong

I see that your social life must be wonderful with tons of friends
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>>101284381
>fucking half-assed bullshit-tier "science"
Actually the whole deal is based on actual scientific theories, do you see the pic? magical girls are A and our universe is B, entropy is decreased on B, see? entropy is bound to increase and never decrease inside a closed system, as we know until now our universe is supposed to be a closed system, but it can be proven false with advent of multiple universes, in case of any sort of energy interaction between said multiverses happening, thermodynamic laws can be bent, actually witch mazes from Madoka magica are like miniature universes created with magic, thus not bound to any kind of energy conservation, the very fact matter appeared out of nothing means entropy decreased in Madoka Magica universe, delaying the moment max entropy level is reached, the heat death .
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>>101287299
We should still explain shit regardless of 12 year old retards like that. When the anti-spoonfeeders are the only ones in the thread it's atrocious seeing legitimate discussion topics disappearing due to them screaming "no faggot if you didn't see it our way then you're a retard, what you want an explanation of the general accepted view? Too bad find out on your own, I don't care if you don't have access to the movie again because you're stupid!"
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>>101287547
>asked nicely
>>101285378
okay.
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what is kyubey saying here
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>>101287607
"To see more, make a contract with me!"
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>>101287483
Back in the day it was a way of weeding out the crowd. If you couldn't find something yourself, you simply weren't good enough for /a/ and were expected to either lurk and learn, or leave and come back when you figured out how to find shit on your own.

That said, I understand spoonfeeding now because /a/ isn't as nearly niche and that mentality is a minority opinion so it doesn't work any more.
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>>101282628
>doesn't like best girl

But Sayaka does like Kyouko.
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>>101287592
Posters like >>101286796 discourage discussion. Why should someone feel like providing a well thought out responses if it's just some retard pretending to be retarded?
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>>101287573
Maxwell's demon is QB, the actor able to release the energy flow from A to B.
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>>101287635
what a conundrum

i could only make a contract with it if i was a little girl

but if i was a little girl i wouldn't care about mami's mammies anymore

what do
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>>101287607
Nothing. you can already see that delicious armpit.
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>>101287699
>Hoboshit best girl.
Ha
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Technically speaking, could a guy become a meguca?
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>>101287753
>wishes only for people to listen to her fathers words of wisdon
>fights for her wish and will continue to fight for her father
>not the best
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>>101287523
http://steamcommunity.com/id/BraveAsANoun

I'm getting kind of sleepy.
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>>101287607
holy fuck she's got this big fucking PIMPLE on her elbow! someone get rid of it ewwwww disgusting ewwwww
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>>101287753
Yeah, that's what the post is saying. Kyouko is the best girl. Looks pretty clear to me.
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>>101287709
I agree, though to be honest in all the threads I've been part of this the first /b/ level retard who brought up discussion on false pretenses.

Even with those idiots the questions can sometime bring up legitimate discussion about more ambiguous moments in Rebellion and the series. Not that there are many secrets that remain in this show, we've nearly picked it bone dry now.
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What's the point of a contract when the incubators are practically space jews and there's no galactic police force around?
Just skip the magical girl business and turn the girls into witches straight away.
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>>101287803
Yes, but apparently it's not worth the Incubators time to unlock their potential.

Because you know, it's not like men have the biggest karmic potential through their leadership throughout history, or you know its no like important male leaders haven't been emotional as fuck (Alexander the Great for example)
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>>101287397
You are a sayakafag, so your shit taste ought to match.
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>>101287573
Yeah, the 'm-muh thermodynamics' is just a bunch of anons who think their high-school level knowledge of science and what they gleaned off of wikipedia make them objective experts who know everything, when the entire premise of science is that nothing is certain, and we're just trying to find patterns within the world we live in. Any of these patterns can be disproven at any time with the inclusion of new discoveries.
>>101287687
/a/ is rife with teenagers nowadays.
Which is fine. e.g. I've been a 4chan regular since I was 12. But back then I shut my mouth because when I said something it was stupid and I was proven wrong. Nowadays when kids say dumb shit, other kids stroke their egos.
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>>101287997
you said it anon, there's no such thing as gravity, the earth is flat and the sun revolves around it, we're just waiting on the new scientific proof that will make that happen! aaaaany day now...
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>>101286625
Yellow alone makes it worth it, faggot.
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>>101287997
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>>101282120
Homu is fucking garbage.
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Homura did some things, but not everything wrong
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>>101288119
But with magic and miracles everything is possible, anon!
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>>101283798
>like Love Lab
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>>101287973
I'm surprised they didn't try it at least once as an experiment.
>Be the only boy meguca
>Madoka comes to take you away to a paradise filled with thousands of eternally youthful girls
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HOMURA DID NOTHING WRONG is my favorite meme post-rebellion, we need to create more.
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>>101288381
I like _____ai yo______ more.
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>>101286715
>L4D2 was for free during Christmas or something like that
>mrw I lost that chance for being playing NMRIH that whole week
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>>101288438
No that's dumb, your dumb.
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>>101288119
>strawmanning this hard and using wildly fallacious analogies
We assume these things are true in the absence of evidence otherwise--there's no reason not to. That's why science fantasy works, because the probability that scientific laws are right is 99.99%, not 100%.
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>>101288468
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>>101288448
Yeah, it was free for a day--I got it that day. It's a neat game, especially after replacing the characters with 2hu MMDs.
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>>101288448
>that image
lol i get it, it's cause she's FAT
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>>101287803
Yes since all you need to make magic happen is emotions. Girls are more emotional though so incubators harvest energy from them instead.

When you think about it humanity is the only species in the madoka universe to possess emotions so they'd probably be a major threat if they could weaponize it.
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>>101288606
You are fat
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>>101288607
>When you think about it humanity is the only species in the madoka universe to possess emotions so they'd probably be a major threat if they could weaponize it.

There might be some other sentient life that is like the Vulcans in Star Trek, only their lack of powerful emotion coming biologically rather than culturally.

Which reminds me, so the lack of emotion among the Incubators is a biological trait or a cultural one?
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>>101288606
I swear it, anon.
Someday, I will find you and fight the shit out of you.
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>>101288607
>When you think about it humanity is the only species in the madoka universe to possess emotions
We don't know that, and there are at least two instances that imply aliens magical girls.
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>>101288607
Do you think there's some weird time fuckery parallel world where that could happen? (not trying to sound like some fanfic shitter)
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>>101288163
>unable to refute literally any of the points posited
>avoid the entire argument by posting a reaction face
You're not going to your high-school anime club's session today, anon?
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>>101284415
Kyouko is there to care and tend for the body. I'm sure she'll be okay.
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>>101288734
What scenes? All the girls Madoka purified in her apotheosis were human girls, one of them was in a futuristic earth but anything non-human about her was probably just the magical girl costume itself.
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>>101288758
I'm not trying to refute your argument, I'm taking note of your faggotry.
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>When you think about it humanity is the only species in the madoka universe to possess emotions so they'd probably be a major threat if they could weaponize it.
That can't be true. Kyubeys knew of emotions, they just thought of it as an illness among their people, and if it's possible for them to feel, they probably don't produce nearly as much emotion as humans do. Plus in a utilitarian society like the ones the advanced aliens are all implied to have, the individual doesn't matter. An Incubator meguca would be ridiculously weak because they don't have the power to change anything in their society like humans do because individualism.
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>>101288699
>Which reminds me, so the lack of emotion among the Incubators is a biological trait or a cultural one?
I'm not sure but QB mentioned that where he came from incubators sometimes get emotions and emotions are treated like a mental illness.
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Homura is olev.
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>>101288853
Because you can't.
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>>101288947
>projecting
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>>101288940
>side-pony Homura
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>>101288940
Wow I ususally love one tailed ponytails, but that makes Homura look slutty.
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>>101288835
At the beginning of the movie there is a scene where they say "All the magical girls in the universe" and not only the earth, and Itzli in the game. Besides that you have to keep in mind that Incubators have always had emotions and can make contracts if they want.
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>>101288940
Why am I so turned on by this picture?!
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How badly would Post-Rebellion Homura screw up a date with Madoka?
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>>101289067
She isn't?
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>>101289165
Not really, just autistic.
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>>101288714
>spoilering something that obvious
i thought you were going to say something funny, oh well.

you don't stand a chance in hell though, my internet buddy is a navy seal and whenever someone talks shit about him on the internet he gives them a violent warning and then goes and beats the shit out of them. you could end up the same way.
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>>101289149
I've saved some pictures of Homura that barely resemble Homura, but this is extreme.
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>>101288979
You have no arguments to refute. If you post your actual opinions on anything, people will pick them apart. But you don't want to learn anything here, you just want to appear invincible and get your ego boost for the day. By posting reaction images you can appear superior to other people without ever exposing your own weaknesses.
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>>101289149
She wouldn't even go in the first place, too busy hating herself.
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>>101289245
That's part of her charm.
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>>101289304
>missing the point
>projecting even harder
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>>101289342
I don't think autism is attractive.
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>>101288835
There might be alien equivalents of magical girls, but they don't count under Madoka's definition of "magical girls" because aliens aren't people.
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>>101289424
>I have shit taste
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>>101289455
>implying it is
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>>101289326
aw come on, any sequel will have Homura at least pretend to have a good time around Madoka even if she's dying inside.
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>>101289364
It's not projecting when I'm right, dear anon.
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>>101289441
I don't remember the part where Madoka made her wish specifically for human ..
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Oriko did nothing wrong.
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>>101289569
She wished to destroy witches. If aliens have a similar system, their final forms might not count as "witches" because they're...alien.
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>>101289441
Well at least Itzli made the sacrifice to get rid of the space Jew influence from her people.
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>>101289364
This is what they call 'pleading the fifth,' anon. It's really quite detrimental to discussion. What's the point of being in a discussion thread if you aren't going to participate?
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>>101289552
You're not even trying anymore, are you?
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>>101289493
Homura wouldn't wear such a stupid hat. I like to image that she's very fashionable.
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>>101289624
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>>101289755
I don't understand Itzli

What would an alien witch be doing on earth
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>>101289754
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>>101289644
Maybe you haven't realized that I was indeed participating on a different topic.
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>>101289821
>hipster lesbians in their natural habitat
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>>101289821
That one looks much better.
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>>101289821
Excellent fashion, I'm sure she and Micheal Scott watch the same reality dating show.
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>>101289896
>says the one who is most likely to be a hipster from the series.
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>>101289795
She saved her people anon, even from herself. So what if a few apes from another planet become her food?
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>>101289876
What topic was this, and exactly how did you participate in discussion thereof? What counterpoints did you present in opposition to the argument you were addressing?
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what do madoka fans feel about precure
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>>101290126
It didn't have have anything to do with that thermodynamics bullshit, I'll give you that.
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Post drunk megucas.
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>>101290135
Haven't seen any of it, but it's Toei, so the animation must be good and the budget impressive. Plus it's a franchise encompassing multiple series with various characters, so I may find one season boring and enjoy the next one. It doesn't seem like the sort of thing you can write off as "the best series ever with no flaws i love them all fapfapfap" or "its total shit that panders to the lowest common denominator".
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Homura glanced down beneath her feet at the destroyed ruins of Earth below. As she looked back up at the city lights, the memories of her precious Madoka filled her mind. Those days were long gone now: what she thought would be an unending romance ended in disappointment and pain once she turned against her and fought her, only to destroy Madoka in all corporeal and spiritual forms forever. The blissful memories and dreams that Homura held so dear were now locked away in the past, swallowed up by the pain and hardships of life. Homura no longer could look forward to finally being able to take her beloved in her arms and give herself to her. Her life now consisted of forever presiding above the smashed, burned-out rubble of a ruined planet, and she only made enough money to barely pay her rent. A few tears rolled down Homura's cheeks as she realized how foolish her thoughts were, but were quickly swept away by the cold night wind. Homura took in a deep breath, her last one in this miserable life, crushed her Soul Gem, and awaited the final darkness that would swallow her pain and misery forever.
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>>101290341
http://exhentai.org/g/663848/f31b588882/
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>>101289149
>How badly would Post-Rebellion Homura screw up a date with Madoka?

She'd do fine up until Madoka confessed to her / tried to kiss her, whereupon she'd panic, run away, and then pretend to go full villain in order to push Madoka away from her unworthy self.
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>>101289265
>i thought you were going to say something funny
>implying I am here for entertaining you

You seem to don't understand the meaning of the sentence "fight the shit out of you". I though it made pretty clear that I just hate you and wish you nothing but suffering. In case you didn't get that part, there it is.


>being in 4chan
>having buddies

There is something inherently erroneous in this, anon. I will let you think it for yourself.
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>>101290341
What's each one's favorite drink?
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>>101290472
My semen.
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>>101290030
Appreciating classical music doesn't make someone a hipster.
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The ending was like End of EVA and I bet the movie is like Rebuild
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>>101290472
Sayaka is probably one for fine wine seeing as she's so refined and classy.
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>>101290341
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>>101290530
Appreciate unknown artists does.
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>>101290446
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>>101290563
She's fine for semen.
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>>101286796
>You were my sissies that got their boypussy pounded. It felt good too
>tfw no bf to pound mine
>tfw literal faggot who only likes yuri anime
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>>101290341
mammies
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>>101290575
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>>101288367
>Be the only boy meguca
>Madoka comes to take you away to a paradise filled with thousands of eternally youthful girls

BUT THEY'RE ALL LESBIANS!
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>>101290637
Goddammit, moot.
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>>101290637
Like...Debussy? You sure about that one?
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>>101290712
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>>101290699
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>>101290712
rape em, Madoka doesn't care nor will she punish you because she doesn't judge anyone at all even if they were a murderer or tore her in half once.
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>>101290690
Mammies rape.
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>>101287803
what if he wished to become a girl?
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>>101290824
You don't seem to comprehend how morality works in megucaverse, so I'll spell it out for you.
If Madoka purified you and took you into the Law of Cycles, you would recognize your own grief, see past it, and become enlightened. You would be purified of your sins and become angelic.

Not saying I subscribe to that interpretation of morality in the real world. I'm just saying that's how megucaverse works.
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>>101290819
>pimples on cheeks, boobs, and knees
spoiler that shit
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>>101288367
>implying boy meguca wouldn't be gay anyway
it's qb's trickery, makes them all gay. homu didn't wan sum fuk until after she made a contract
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>>101290955
>Become a magical guy
>Beat the shit out of girls and take their rewards.
This makes me one happy chum.
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>>101290959
>Nubile young girls everywhere running around in the paradise you fapped to every day as a mortal
>You've been turned into a sinless eunuch by Madokami and can't feel desire anymore
Screw that noise. Homura is the true goddess.
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>>101291055
>only guys can be forceful and strong
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>>101289149
she'd have to reset the universe again
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>>101288735
No unless you step into fanfic territory. I would like to see a fanfic done with this premise though.
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>>101291199
silly bitch your weapons cannot harm me ect.
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>>101291199
>implying she isn't a guy
>implying she doesn't have a dick
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>>101291323
WPN pls go
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>>101291055
If magical guys are possible then surely kamen rider girls are possible too.
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>>101291557
Forgot my pic.
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>>101291557
You say that if it's a bad thing.
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>>101291355
l-lewd
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>>101290444
>molesting Mami

Dropped it faster than Homura lets friends down
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>>101291211
Well considering that Homura could exist in a world where QB had no clue how she contracted, it's not too far off to have a dude exist as a magical abnormality.

It could be explained somehow.
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>>101291783
They aren't molesting Mami, they are showing their love for her, anon
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>>101292001
if you want trap hentai that badly just go fap to this http://exhentai.org/g/594976/a28bb48418/
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>>101290444
I don't get the joke? All I see is a picture of a panda and a flower of some sort.
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>>101292064
Fucking lesbos
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>>101292295
old charlotte was cuter than bebe charlotte
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>>101292295
Hitomi pls
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>>101292245
Just google "exhentai"
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>>101292164
I find it pretty funny this is my favorite Madoka doujin, even though they are guys. They are really cute though, so it doesn't matter.

Second favorite is
>Might get pregnant? I'm gonna make you pregnant!
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>>101292164
But anon, I don't even like traps.
I'd be hurt more if you accused me of being a self insert fag.
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>>101292406
Some tummies are gonna get punched.
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>>101292538
Then forbidden love time?
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>>101292648
I didn't know it had a continuation.
Priceless
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>>101292757
I didn't have the first one.
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>Homura
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>>101293005
Go suck a dick, Kyubey

Still best girl
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>>101293005
deal with it you little shit
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>>101293130
kyubey can't be a girl, then there'd be two girls whose personalities are "eats all the time"
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>>101285435
HAHA, i AM WATCHING THIS TOMORROW IN MONTERREY
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>>101293193
>Enslaving a race that did nothing wrong
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>>101293222
Kyubey is clearly a girl.

>>101293740
Homura is like Kyubey turned up to 11.
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why didn't they name this show as Puella Magi Homura Magica?
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>>101294063
i unno
why did they pretend it was going to be a nice normal mahou shoujo thing at first?
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>>101294063
The same reason they don't name the movie National Treasure to Nicholas Cage: Treasure Hunter.
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>>101294156
Does suffering fall under "cute girls doing cute things"?
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>>101294063
Why would they? The show is about Madoka.
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>>101293193
all this cam rip quallity.
The wait for DVD/BR is killing me
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>>101291621
>Kaixa gear
Oh she's gonna die alright and get NTR'd too while she's at it.

I'm curious on how Mitakihara's Smart Brain rider gears would work.
>Photon streams generated by the driver would be the result of converting hope to despair instead of Orphnoc DNA shenanigans
>Color of the photon streams would be the same as your soul gem's if you were to contract
>Extended use of the rider gear lead to the same symptoms as a magical girl suffering from soul gem corruption
>To prevent the wearer from witching out, failsafes are programmed into the rider gear (depending on the gear, the driver would either kill the wearer or forcefully disengage)
>Teenage girls can use the rider gears more extensively than other people
>Credens Justitiam is now Credens Justiφ's
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>>101290959
>If Madoka purified you and took you into the Law of Cycles, you would recognize your own grief, see past it, and become enlightened. You would be purified of your sins and become angelic.
Just like your parent clean your shit for you, you just realize but do nothing about it and unable to solve any problem by yourself
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>>101292648
Here comes...
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>>101294451
>BR
huehuehuehuehuehue
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Homura did the wrong things for the right reasons. To her the ends always justified the means.
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>>101293193
He got Ai Yo'd
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>>101296075
Meguca Hitomi when?
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>>101296353
>mfw she wastes her wish on kyousuke and becomes a witch in exactly the same way as sayaka
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>>101296075
...Tummy Punch!!!
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Sydney madoka soon
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>>101296353
Now
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Hitomi just needs a gimp.
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>>101285952
That's the irony of it.
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>>101296732
>this post
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>>101295744
Yes, exactly, you get it. Compared to that, Homura, who realizes her own flaws and doesn't just accept them, but becomes the master of her own demons, is a much stronger character.
God is dead, /a/.
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>>101296818
there's nothing wrong with saving someone you love from a terrible fate. It's not like she undid madoka's sacrifice, the law of cycles still exists in the new homuverse.
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Oh, boy.
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>>101296924
so basically all the incubator's shenanigans in the rebellion story did was allow homura to learn to live with her pain and.. well.. grow up and stop being a teenage girl, instead of dying?
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>>101296924
It's like you faggots completely ignore the point of Yuri Valhalla and what Sayaka says about accepting your inner witch,
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>>101297035
Hitomi was conspiring with Homura all along to tummy punch god
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>>101296987
>the law of cycles still exists in the new homuverse.
Except we don't know that.
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>>101297035
>"Yuri Valhalla? Don't make me sick. Girls can't love girls, you freak."
>"Queer-o... FINALE!"
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>>101296987
I have suspicions Homura broke something. She noted that Sayaka and Nagisa can't go back anymore. That doesn't seem natural.
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>>101297249
Urobuchi and even Homura confirms that in the movie. Also Wraiths are a result of the LOC.
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>>101297329
>Urobuchi
[citation needed]
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>>101297329
It still exists, but it's obviously been altered in some way that might lead to complications, like Sayaka and Nagisa being stranded, for example.
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>>101297261
maybe that's because they had broke off and taken physical form when homu ai yo'd everything?
Besides- they're all her friends, of course she'd bring them back to life. Even if she's a few slices short of a cake now, she's still a good person.
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>>101297180
What does "accepting your inner witch" mean?
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>>101297035
Madoka is Hitomi's punching pet.
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>>101297514
growing up, learning to accept your grief and move on from a childish worldview?
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>>101297503
>Besides- they're all her friends
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>>101297586
What's the point of that if you are dead?
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>>101297503
>they're all her friends
That's arguable at best.
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>>101297700
just because madoka is more important to her than anyone else doesn't mean she isn't friends with them. If she isn't friends with any of them it'd be mami. Somebody trying to murder you would probably sour your view of them.
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>>101297661
What's the point of anything if you're dead?
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>>101297661
Because they aren't really dead, magical girls don't die even if you kill them.
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>>101297180
Escapism isn't good. Madoka, Sayaka, and Nagisa need to wake up and face the real world.
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>>101297503
>Homura
>friends
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>>101297814
Sure thing, Homurafag, Homura is love and rainbows that cares about everyone.
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>>101297878
Do you think this escapism meme is funny? Why do you keep spamming it?
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>>101297597
>>101297700
Labyrinths reflect the inner desire of the witch. No one entered Homura's world. She invited them in, because her idea of a happy world includes Madoka, Sayaka, Mami, Kyouko, and even Nagisa.
Now get wrecked.
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>>101297035
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>>101297586
>learning to accept your grief
Learn that bad things make you feel bad?
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>>101297978
I'm pretty sure nagisa just showed up as back up, or maybe homu had a desire for mami to be happy and have a friend of her own
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>>101297503
Would Mami and Homura actually get along in the real world if it wasn't for the others?
They are always at each other neck without neither showing it or just terrible suspicious of the other. I can't imagine it.
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>>101297814
>Mami
>Being friends with a wretch like Homura
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>>101298066
I think to homura mami is like that one annoying friend of a friend who you always end up hanging out with even though they get on your nerves, but they end up growing on you anyway, even though they're still irritating.
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>>101297878
She invited them because they are important to Madoka, is the same reason that she don't kill Sayaka in her new world, "let's get along or that girl is going to cry".
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>>101297973
Justicefags misuse Marche when Madoka, Homura, Mami, and Kyouko are the only ones who face reality and work with the hand they were dealt in life.
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This Sydney screening is the most autistic event I've ever attended
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>>101298236
>>101297978
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>>101298066
Nope.

Homura probably would have killed Mami if it wasn't for the whole hurting Madoka thing.
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>>101298199
If only Homura stopped acting so angsty and distant with any other besides Madoka.
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>>101298066
All they need is a common goal, and I think Nagisa filling in the hole in Mami's past of being alone probably wizened her up a little bit, if her status as Quintet leader, ability to see through Homura, and her calm but aggressive nature during their fight are any indication.
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>>101298319
>Homura probably would have killed Mami

>Homura
>Killing Mami
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>>101297937
Yeah, kinda. Her perfect world apparently involves more than just Madoka. She specifically seeks out the others and builds a happy dream for them too.

The new world though, it's obvious she's keeping distance.
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>>101296672
which one of these retards are you?
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>>101298432
>stop time
>shoot Mami's soul gem when she's not expecting it
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>>101298505
spoiler, anon: you are one of the retards
If you weren't, you wouldn't reveal your power level by going to a public screening of animu.
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>>101298565
>It's a ribbon decoy
>Homura gets wrecked anyway
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>>101298565
Which she never does even when it would benefit her, hence why that anon is laughing at the notion.
Homura has 9 days between getting out of the hospital and starting school. If she ever had a mind to kill Mami before she met Madoka, she easily could.
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>>101298461
The time that Homura cares about others is long gone, for Homura they are only means to an end, they are there because they make Madoka happy which ultimately makes Homura happy, she has no problem getting rid of any of them if the situation requires.

Don't know why Homurafags can't accept this fact.
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>>101298565

>shoots her
>ribbon decoy
>wraps homura like a christmas gift
>???
>rape
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>>101298392
To be fair after all those timelines I would rather deal with anyone but them.
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>>101298565
>Shooting a bunch of ribbons

Underestimating Mami is silly. She's the strongest magical girl after Madoka. Homura wouldn't beat her in a fight.
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>>101298801
>mami is a pervert who likes tying up girls
I am OK with this

>>101298883
Homura isn't a meguca anymore, she's a devil.
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>>101298599
>being this beta
>Not accepting your niche hobbies as a part of yourself and something that shaped you into the person you are today
>Using anime as an escape instead of taking advantage it as something to develop you as a person
Have you learned nothing from Homura's example?
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>>101298883
Doesn't she use way too much magic per fight? I remember QB mentioning that at the beginning of the series before she lost her head.
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>>101298764
I wonder why she never did.
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>>101298883
Homura would beat Mami if Mami doesn't do the little ribbon thing before hand.
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>>101298939
Are they trying to troll us?
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>>101299111
Shaft? Russing us? Impossible.
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>>101298764
>she has no problem getting rid of any of them if the situation requires.
She never has, never would, and never will. She had a myriad of opportunities to and could reset time if murder didn't work out, and yet she never did. She threatened Sayaka, was called on her bluff, and left. She even could have killed Oktavia herself with a few bombs so that she would have Kyouko to help her face Walpurgisnacht.

Prove me wrong. Protip: You can't.
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>>101298939
The wait for Animate USA is painful.
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>>101298936
I watch anime for the purpose of escapism and wish fulfillment.
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>>101299077
Moemura did, at some point, but after this all her dreams and hopes were destroyed.
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>>101299236
>was called on her bluff,
>it was a bluff because I say so
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Homura would just have to remind Mami about her loneliness and she'd not even have to fight.
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>>101298939
Haha, oh shit, what is this?
Who ever sees this poster before they see Rebellion is not going to get rused softly.
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>>101298928
I want Mami to wrap me up really tight
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>>101299424
Go away.
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>>101299424
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>>101299360
The cover to the limited edition BD set.
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>>101299336
>Homura has never killed anyone just to further her own agenda, even though she could just reset time and undo their death if it didn't work out
>"Homura would kill anyone if it benefited her because I say so"
Kyouko held Homura for less than ten seconds and Sayaka was stumbling away like a zombie. Homura stopped time when using the flash grenade--why didn't she take the ten seconds out of her life to end Sayaka's?

Because she was never going to. Deal with it.
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>>101299236
>that she can't kill any of the girls proves that she cares about them!
Whatever let you sleep, Homurafag, it's not like Madoka is going to be sad if she learn that or something.
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>>101299342
Friendly Mami might be more dangerous than unfriendly Mami.
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>>101299236
She can't even kill HERSELF without something getting in the way and giving up on it
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>>101299630
Homura was pretty close to snapping at that point.
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>>101299630
Getting rid of someone =! kill them.
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>>101299630
Maybe she just changed her mind, anon. Sounds more reliable than your half-baked fanfic that you keep pushing as canon every thread.
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>>101299546
Everytime I see this image in the thread is directed to me
Maybe I need to "loosen up" for a bit.
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>>101299798
>Maybe she just changed her mind
Then she has no resolve.
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>>101299906
She makes a decision and upon thinking about it decides that it may not be the best course of action. Perhaps maybe she was acting too rashly. Seems logical to me.
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>>101299894
>"loosen up"
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>>101299894
Maybe you need to stop seeing Mami-san as a sex toy, you fucking pervert.
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>>101300063
>upon thinking about it
>Homura
>thinking
Ahahahahah
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>>101300175
Oh, you little... She was the purest till I came to this threads!
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>Madoka and Homura can rewrite reality
>Mami's parents stay dead in both
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I want to fuck Homura in the butt HARD without ever letting up
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>>101299630
Because Kyouko was still right fucking there and would have continued to try and stop her? You are such a moron.
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>>101300392
>worst girl lives to suffer
Nothing wrong here.
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>>101300392
Kyoko's parents too. It's fair for them it seems. Those whores ;_;
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>>101291211
I am writing a fanfic where Homucifer accidently pulls a genderswapped Madoka cast into her world from another universe

It's only two chapters in though
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>>101300267
Making bombs and using modern weapons requires a little more effort than just "Magic bullshit"
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>>101300509
>shitposting this hard
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>>101299798
And I'm saying if Kyouko wasn't there she would've changed her mind anyway. My argument is as simple to comprehend and supported by precedent as it ever has been.
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>>101300392
Madoka couldn't save them, Homura could but she's a bitch.
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>>101300622
She would have changed her mind when she was literally seconds away from lasering Sayaka's face off? Why? It would serve no purpose.
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>>101300622
>And I'm saying if Kyouko wasn't there she would've changed her mind anyway.
You have zero evidence to support this claim.
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>>101300602
You don't need to be intelligent to use firearms, just look at Republicans!
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>>101300726
Keep that political shit out of here.
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>>101300692
Well there's the part that Homura can stop time whenever she wants to, so if she really felt like it, she could've easily put Sayaka down.

And then she didn't, and let Kyoko hold her back.
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>>101300602
Sure it does
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>>101300666
Such is the life of Tomoe Mami.
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>>101300392
Maybe they were terrible parents. How the hell did they get into such a ridiculous crash that kills fucking everyone? Were they drunk?

Mami only wished to save herself for a reason.
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>>101300761
>waste all that time stop on killing sayaka who is already on the path to destruction
Nice. You're pretty dumb.
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>>101300761
Except Kyouko was still right there and she had other shit to do.

>let Kyouko hold her back
Seriously nigger? Homura is taken by surprise and tied up all the damn time, that instance was no different.
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>>101300761
>she could've easily put Sayaka down
Kyouko was touching her, so stopping time wouldn't allow her to get free.
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>>101300811
>no drills
0/10 would not mami
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>>101299243
Is it better to get it from there or CdJapan?
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>>101300840
>Homura is taken by surprise and tied up all the damn time
You'd think after 100 timelines she wouldn't be such a moron about it still
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>>101300850
Oh, forgot about that part. My bad.
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>>101300887
Depends on what bonuses you want. Usually Animate has the best so I'm waiting for them.
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>>101300800
Heh, that's funny because Urobuchi consider Madoka and the magical girls as terrorists.
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>>101300910
That's Homura for you.
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>>101300923
Isn't the bonus this time a 10mm x 10mm sool jim paperweight?
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>>101300910
>the same thing happens every timeline
topkek
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>>101300869
Not even a little?
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>>101300910
Homura is clearly an M.
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>>101300484
Yeah, it's not like Homura broke free from Kyouko and activated her timestop.
Maybe if you throw around the word 'moron' a little more carefully it won't come back to bite you in the ass when you make retarded posts like this one.
>>101300692
Again, precedent. Homura has never killed someone out of cold blood even when she had the opportunity shoved in her face, as has been the case countless times with Mami.
>>101300688
>implying that lasering Sayaka's face off serves a purpose
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>>101300923
CD Japan has a Homuposter which looks great, so hopefully they list it soon to know which one to get. My wallet is ready.
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>>101300937
I believe he compared to Kyubey tricking the girls into it in the same way that terrorists go about recruitment, not that they were exactly the same thing.
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>>101300869
I don't know, limp is nice too.
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>>101300910
>mfw she secretly likes being tied up
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>>101300850
Except for the part where she breaks free of Kyouko and uses timestop to escape the flash grenade before it goes off in her face and blinds her. But go ahead, rewrite the episode to suit your personal canon.
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>>101301028
>looks great
Blech, too much forehead. It looks like she's balding.
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>>101301020
Kyouko will continue to interfere with Homura as long as she tries to kill Sayaka at that point, Homura doesn't need that kind of trouble. Killing Sayaka isn't important enough to get into a fight with Kyouko over.

>>implying that lasering Sayaka's face off serves a purpose
She wanted to put Sayaka out of her misery so Madoka didn't have to watch her destroy herself. It would be a damn mercy killing.
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>>101300978
Animate USA has different bonuses than the Jp site I think.
>>101301028
I would like more than just a poster, but that does look nice.
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>>101301123
Why are her eyes five miles apart?
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>>101300822
If she was going to kill Sayaka and needed to conserve her magic, she would've pulled a gun on her instead of threatening her with purple magic.
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That's just like saying Senator Armstrong was right
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>>101301190
because wide
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>>101301120
Nice reminder that she is, in theory, older than everyone. Imagine all that stress.
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>>101301157
If Homura actually cared to really know Madoka she would know that such an event would only spur her to action. But, again, Homura doesn't think.
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>>101301221
Either one works, she has plenty of grief seeds. Stop grasping at straws. The laser beam is less conspicuous than pulling a gun out.
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>>101301221
Conserving timestop and conserving magic are different. She has a and hour glass that determines how much timestop she has left. She can't replenish it.
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>>101301120
>>101301262
I want bald Homura to dip her head in oil and rub it all over my body
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>>101301285
Sayaka is doomed to become a witch or die anyway, nothing Homura can do will change that. Dying is preferable to becoming a witch on all accounts.
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>>101301357
>Dying is preferable to becoming a witch on all accounts
Tell that to timeline 3 Homura
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>>101301357
>Dying is preferable to becoming a witch on all accounts.
Even when the only thing that it will do is jump start Madoka into a contract? For someone that's seen everything already, Homura is incredibly short-sighted.
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>>101301415
You mean the Homura who thought she had literally no choice but to become a witch?
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>>101301358
I want to luminous with Homura.
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>>101301052
Nah, he compared Madoka believes that wishes can bring hope and love to Al qaeda...

> Urobuchi: For example, Al-Qaeda brought down the Twin Towers due to their self-righteousness. Justice for some people is an evil for others. Good intentions, kindness, and hope will not necessarily make people happy.
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>>101301480
So you're saying that Sayaka's death will spur Madoka to make a contract, but her becoming a witch somehow won't? What? Madoka was seconds away from making a contract just to help Sayaka even before either of those things happened anyway, it doesn't make a difference.
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>>101301296
I was rebutting an anon's point, and your reply doesn't help his case, so I don't see why you're targeting me.
Not that there's any validity to your point. That Homura needs to conserve her magic is why she doesn't solve any of the problems presented in episodes 1 and 2 with timestop. This only changed once she got Charlotte's grief seed.
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>>101301578
see >>101301342
She has plenty of magic, she eats witches for breakfast. Timestop is an especially precious resource.
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>>101301552
I'm saying Homura doesn't think about any of the consequences. She only wanted to off Sayaka then because she let her emotions get to her, not because she was thinking with anything that even resembled logic.
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>All this arguing about an insignificant point that is inconsequential to Homura's characterization

Perfect world, Ubermensch, new goddess, etc.
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>>101301488
>no choice
She could have killed herself. But living as a witch is fine for her--as long as it was with Madoka.
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>>101301677
She wanted to off Sayaka to spare Madoka the trauma of seeing Sayaka complete her self-destructive downward spiral and become a witch. She literally said as much. Everything she does is for Madoka.
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>>101301096
At which point Sayaka had already gotten away and probably putting in any great efforts to pursue her would get Kyouko up her ass and she doesn't want that. She didn't break free, Kyouko let go of her because she saw Homura was apparently packing heat with the grenade. Stopping time wouldn't have gotten her free any quicker, she only bothered to after she broke free.
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>>101301578
I don't know why you keep discussing this in the first place, that Homura isn't capable of killing Sayaka doesn't mean she cares about Sayaka as a person or any of the other girls for the case, she only cares about Madoka.
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>>101301704
It's fun to talk about stuff that isn't set in stone. And this actually is kind of important to Homura's characterization. If she was really going to kill Sayaka (she was) it makes her a completely different person than if she wasn't (she was going to kill Sayaka by the way).
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>>101301677
She was probably still terribly jealous of how close she is to her. Homu's petty as shit.
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>>101301704
She looks kinda sophisticated with her hair up like that.
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>>101301704
Well theoretically it ties into the larger point of whether Homura is cold-hearted enough to kill off the other megucas if it serves her purpose. Despite the fact that the entire purpose of that scene was to show that Homura was willing to go that far, this one guy is apparently convince that it was all a clever ruse because of reasons.
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>>101301342
The hourglass represents the amount of time left in her loop. She stops time by flipping the hourglass on its side so that sand stops pouring.

That's why it always runs out in the during Walpurgisnacht no matter what. When did you see the series, last week?
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>>101301871
>That's why it always runs out in the during Walpurgisnacht no matter what
We saw that happen exactly once.
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>>101301742
No, she wanted to off Sayaka because Sayaka called her out on her bullshit. Homura hates nothing more than being confronted with who she really is, just look at her downward spiral in Rebellion.
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>>101301871
Same shit. She has a limited amount of timestop and she can't abuse it.
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>>101301936
>No, she wanted to off Sayaka because Sayaka called her out on her bullshit.
You are a retard.
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>>101301936
That's utterly inane. Nothing in the series supports that idea. Homura is not some petty murderous sociopath who will kill anyone who upsets her.
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>>101301942
Time stop literally stops it from running out.

Thing is she can't hold it forever like that, time needs to move forward eventually anyway.
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>>101293705

m-me too
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>>101287607
"Kimitachi no negai wa nandai?"

What is your wish?
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>>101301772
>Stopping time wouldn't have gotten her free any quicker, she only bothered to after she broke free.
This is the premise of my point that you keep ignoring. Homura had time stopped. Why didn't she just take the five seconds out of her time to walk down the hallway (recall that Sayaka had stumbled slowly away only ten seconds ago--she didn't get far) and end Sayaka with time stopped and no one in her way?
>>101301794
Great fanfic you've got there that ignores her happy world that includes all of the megucas. She created it this way not once, but twice.
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>>101301832
Nah, if Homu was like that, she would have killed her the moment she saw her instead of offering her a grief seed.
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>>101302126
>>101302126
>Great fanfic you've got there that ignores her happy world that includes all of the megucas.
See >>101298764
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>>101302126
She makes a happy world that includes all the megucas because Madoka doesn't want to be separated from her friends. You know, like she explicitly says multiple times. Also, she didn't even intend to bring Sayaka and Nagisa back, that was accidental.
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>>101302126
Because Kyouko was there and Homura realized that killing Sayaka would mean picking a fight with the only potential ally left. Had Kyouko not been there she would have either greatly incapacitated Sayaka or killed her.
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Airing here in a little under 2 hours. There are still tickets available. Worth putting up with the general anime fanbase to see it?
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>>101302030
So you are positing a theory where she actually runs out of timestop faster if she doesn't use it? Like that makes any sense at all.
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>>101301804
Weird how they removed that scene completely, if it's so important.
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>>101302283
Do it.
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>>101302283
Yes.
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>>101301162
http://www.madoka-magica.com/blu-ray_dvd/tokuten.html#aniplex

Both Neowing (Cd Japan) and and HMV Japan offer the same bonuses on their english sites. Animate lists a fabric tapestry of ultimate Madoka and Homura.
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>>101302296
It isn't any faster. It's a fixed rate.

She can't live in time stop forever for obvious reasons.
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>>101302283
Why are you even doubting? Just go. You won't regret it.
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>>101302301
Yeah, it's strange. They removed shit in the movies that should have stayed.
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>>101302301
Not quite as retarded a decision as removing Mami's wish, but it's up there.
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>>101302235
Your claim has zero evidence to support it. You're simply pulling shit out of thin air and positing as canon.
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>>101302538
>You're simply pulling shit out of thin air and positing as canon.
>OTP.gif
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>>101302538
Homura ALWAYS acts to try to maximize Madoka's happiness, as she sees it. That has always been and, in all likelihood, will always be her main motivation. She doesn't care about her own personal happiness one bit.
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>>101302237
>Implying Homura would tell Sayaka, "I've actually grown to empathize with you as a person and recognize your right to a normal life like the other girls."
Nah, she was just trolling Sayaka, like when she mentioned destroying the world.
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>>101302642
You can come up with any stupid theory you like and justify it as "well of course she wouldn't SAY that, she's just fucking with them". That doesn't change the fact that such things are out of line with her character and you're just making them up.
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>>101302448
I don't think you understand the power of Homura, she has a month worth of time to spend, if she don't spent it is not consumed, is only consumed when she used timestop.
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>>101302604
brotp, actually. As in, not an actual romantic pairing, and also completely canon.
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>>101301990
>>101302018
>Homura is not some petty murderous sociopath who will kill anyone who upsets her.
She went from begrudgingly offering a grief seed straight to exactly fucking that the moment she was exposed.

If she was going to do that from the start, she would have threatened her from the start.
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>>101283978
Akumura
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>>101302397
Is it on Animate's US site yet? I want the translation guide like last time.
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>>101302742
She was killing her because of the perceived threat to Madoka, not herself.
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>>101302703
>Homura's self-loathing is out of line with her character
. . .
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>>101302742
She was going to kill Sayaka because Sayaka was going to turn into a witch. If she wanted to make Sayaka suffer, she could have actually accomplish that better by letting her live.
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>>101302818
Saying that she cares about the other girls at all is out of line with her character, since there's nothing to indicate in the series or in Rebellion that that is the case.
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>>101302704
>She has a month worth of time to spend
That makes even less sense. You're implying she could spend a full month with time stopped to prepare five minutes before WPN actually hits, or something.
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>>101302731
Yeah, just like SayaKyou is also canon.
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>>101302948
She probably couldn't actually use it all at once because it still drains magic, but other than that, why not?
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>>101298461
Daily reminder that Nakazawa was invited into Homura's dream world both times.
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>>101302529
Mami's wish is only important to her own characterization (and she's the least important of the girls) and as foreshadowing for Kyuubey's sketchiness (and we get enough of that elsewhere). Basically, Mami moments are expendable, like her.

Homura attempting to kill Sayaka is a very significant moment for the character who is arguably the central one of the whole story. It being cut shows that it wasn't considered critical and thus might not be true to the creators' vision of Homura.
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>>101302884
except for.. you know.. all the things that you choose to ignore. We all know that homura isn't evil, and she doesn't hate the other magical girls, she's just pragmatic
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>>101303020
I'm not saying she hates the other girls, nor is she evil. Do you have anything else to add or are you just saying random words?
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>>101303020
>all the things that you choose to ignore.
Like what?
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>>101302981
>implying it isn't
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>>101303002
She's had to listen to the teacher call on him to screw around with him on the first day of class nearly a hundred times now, the same damn conversation most of the time. That tends to leave an impression on people, so now she wants to bully him as well.
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>>101303002
He's just the teacher's pet, and he's always providing just the right answer to deal with the teacher's issues.

He's earned his place.
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>>101303020
There's nothing pragmatic about rewriting reality to suit your own desires just because.
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>>101302751
No, it's not. Hopefully will be soon.
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>>101302884
Except for, you know... everything that indicates it.
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>>101303174
Actually, that's as pragmatic as you can get. With pragmatism, you want whatever useful, whatever isn't useful can piss off. Having the ability to rewrite reality on your personal whim is quite useful.
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>>101302981
>starting this again
Can't we at least have a week's respite before having the same argument all over again?
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>>101303282
Welcome to /a/.
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>>101303215
Pray continue, I'm very interested.
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>>101303004
It's because Sayaka killed those people on the train. But then she didn't(Shinbo), so that scene where Homura strikes back at the arrogant witch killing innocents makes no sense, so it was removed.
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>>101303097
This is the gayest part of the movie.
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>>101303177
Agreed, I'm getting a little nervous. I may just go AmiAmi if Aniplex keeps this wait up.
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>>101303080
both times she created a new world, everyone is there and happy. Do you think that's necessary for madoka's happiness? She could have just wrote them out of reality since they might threaten her, and madoka would have different friends.
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>>101303002
Now that Homura has taken QBs system and fucked it in the ass, does this mean that Nakazawa-kun can become a magical boy?
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>>101303174
>There's nothing pragmatic about being the only magical girl in history so goal-oriented that you master your own despair instead of letting it consume you
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>>101303002
Rest of this please. I ship NakaHomu
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>>101303356
>Do you think that's necessary for madoka's happiness?
Yes, because fucking Madoka says they are important.
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>>101303356
>She could have just wrote them out of reality since they might threaten her, and madoka would have different friends.
That would have simply been unnecessarily cruel. Madoka would really never forgive her for that. She has no reason to feel threatened by anybody as she is now. And again, Sayaka and Nagisa coming back to life was accidental.
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>>101303329
How can Homura "strike back" at Sayaka for a scene that hadn't even happened yet?
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>>101303449
>Madoka would really never forgive her for that.
she wouldn't ever even know
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>>101303327
Well, this here is the third picture that shows Homura is comfortable enough with Kyouko to smile around her and show skinship.
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>>101303380
Madoka, Sayaka, Nagisa and every girl in Valhalla.
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>>101303478
minority report starring homu homu
>>101303516
having to go to the afterlife and get god to help you accomplish it kinda invalidates the achievement.
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>>101303485
Homura acknowledges at the end that it's inevitable that they will come into conflict one day.
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>>101303410
ID: 40312158 on pixiv.
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>>101303505
Yeah, it's not like she was trying to pretend that everything was fine and normal.
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>>101303097
that was platonic lesbian hand holding
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>>101303650
Exactly anon, she wasn't. She was trying to prove to Kyouko that the entire world was just a dream. Thank you for seeing reason.
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>>101303505
A means to an end, like they always have been. Again, not saying she hates them or anything, just that she doesn't care about them.
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>>101303567
Having to pull out bullshit of AI YO level does as well.
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>>101303688
Kyouko brings a smile to her face because they were bros in the absence of Madoka and Sayaka.
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>>101303505
Don't forget pulling her close. Although I'm sure Homuhaters will rationalize this as some kind of method to use Kyouko as a tool or whatever.
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>>101303706
she ai yo'd the universe after becoming a witch, mastering her despair, and getting better. Did you even watch the movie?
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>>101303621
Do you have le translation?
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>>101303650
She was pretty empathetic to Kyouko when Kyouko sacrificed herself to stop Oktavia in the series. The tone of her voice and the way she looked back really seemed to show that they understood each other in some small part in that moment due to their similar goals. Although If I recall the TV series kind of had more impact there on that end while the movie just didn't hit the same note.

You don't really scream out for someone like that if it's just "This person is a tool".
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>>101303793
So? It still is the most bold ass pull I have seen in my life.
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>>101303785
That's not something you do to bros
That's totally fucking gay
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>>101303785
Not even Homura can resist a chance to pull a kyoko close.
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>>101303867
>scream out
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>101303867
>similar goals
Their goals couldn't be further apart. What's similar is the devotion.
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So, /a/

was getting caught part of her plan?
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>>101304017
>protect the girl you love
vs
>protect the girl you love

yeah I see what you mean
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Guys do you not even remember when Homura told her Clara Dolls to reject both Mami and Kyouko and even proceeded to tell Sayaka off?
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>>101303764
Yes? I feel like you're misunderstanding my point here. She is not emotionally invested in anyone but Madoka. That doesn't mean she's a robot incapable of feeling happiness or enjoying anything.
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>>101303977
They're not gay for each other! They're just wingmen in each other's respective relationships.
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>>101303804
Nope! You could upload it to danbooru with a translation_request tag.
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>>101304095
No.
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>>101304123
>Kyouko loves Sayaka
>>>/u/
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>>101303977
>being afraid to hug your bros
what's it like, not having any real friends?
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>>101304095
No, because Madoka is not a big guy.
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>>101304191
did you even watch the show or do you just like coming to threads to argue with people?
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>>101304191
>sexual love is the only type of love in existence
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>>101304123
>Kyouko sacrificing herself to stop Oktavia = protecting the girl you love
What
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>>101302341
>>101302452
>>101302360
I decided not to go.
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>>101304095
>Homura as Bane
>"Do you feel in charge?"
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>>101304276
Yes, Kyouko doesn't love Sayaka, she simply admires her for her ideals.
>>>/u/
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>>101304218
That is no mere "hug", that's an unusually intimate chest-to-back embrace
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>>101304340
you're big girl
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>>101304323
If it was like that, Kyouko would've let Homura timestop and bomb Oktavia with zero fucks given.
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>>101304323
She could have killed Oktavia at any point if she needed to; but she tried to awaken her, to get her to regain her senses, and when all else failed she chose to accompany her to the other side since "It's lonely to be by yourself. Don't worry, I'll come with you".

Also didn't help that she was hemorrhaging blood at that point due to trying to take the non-lethal path before that.
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>>101304331
What a faggot.
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>>101304400
For you.
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>>101304400
Speak of the devil... and she shall appear.
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>>101304414
None of that suggest that she loves her.
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>batfags spewing their stupid fucking meme
Fuck off.
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I'll just leave this image here without insinuating anything.
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>>101304506
captcha: love tingsima
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>>101304550
>refrences are more telling than what actually happens
That was just a bone for your yurifags to chew on. Nothing more.
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>>101304410
Like... what
No seriously what
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>>101304511
I wasn't aware any of that was a meme and I don't visit /co/. I watched the movie twice and thought Bane was a pretty cool and quotable guy. I'm sorry I've hurt and offended you, anon. What can I do to make it up to you?
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>>101304414
>>101304506
No, it's the "protecting" part that's not connecting here
That's not "protecting", that's... well it's something nice but I can't quite come up with the word for it.

And in any case it's still totally different from what Homura has in mind. The only vaguely parallel thing about it is the feeling for another person.
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>>101304640
If she really didn't give a crap then she would have just had Homura finish her off without a care in the world. However that's not who Kyouko wanted to be in the end, since she saw this as her last chance to do something right and to save someone.
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>>101304598
>That was just a bone for your yurifags to chew on.
This is the most ridiculous method of dismissing something I've seen.
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>>101304598
Huh, why do you bring up yuri? I just said I wasn't insinuating anything. You connected the dots yourself, and it looks like you think they're gay.
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>>101304511
But no one mentioned Shinobu.
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>>101304657
It's not really a /co/ meme. /tv/ made it. Anyway, to make it up to me, post more pictures of Homura.
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>>101304511
your punishment must be more severe
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>>101304767
>If she really didn't give a crap then she would have just had Homura finish her off without a care in the world.
Nobody said that, was only said that it wasn't for love.
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>>101304751
They're also the only two meguca who recognized the system of hope and despair and chose to accept their fate and do what they could with the hand dealt to them rather than fight the inevitable.
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>>101304789
It's true. When it has zero bearing on what actually happens in the show, it can be treated as just a little symbol mean for a specialized group of people to enjoy. Sort of like all of the pointless symbolism in Eva.
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>>101304133
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>>101304817
>Calm down, Sayaka. Now's not the time for fear. That comes later.
Sorry, now I can't resist.
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>>101304360
yes, Sayaka's... ideals.
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>>101304922
They've got a bit in common

Both pragmatists who put the goal before the means, both secretly have a soft side underneath it all, both raised Catholic, both devoted themselves and were willing to die for someone even if for slightly different reasons, and whatever else I'm not really thinking of here.
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>>101304922
> and chose to accept their fate and do what they could with the hand dealt to them rather than fight the inevitable.
Wait, what? This is literally the exact opposite of Homura.
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No one cared who Homura was until she ai yo'd the universe.
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>>101305031
>Sayaka calls up Oktavia
>"Oh, you think darkness is your ally. But you merely adopted the dark; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!"
>Claps Sayaka
>"The shadows betray you, because they belong to me!"

Dammit, now I can't unsee this shit. Why did that anon have to bring it up?
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>>101305051
>Sayaka
>Catholic
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>>101304950
So you're saying that symbolism is completely removed from the actual themes of the show? They're just neat little visual treats and serve no other purpose? They don't illuminate any sort of deeper meaning to the show?

How does it feel to go through life with a paper bag over your head? How did you even watch Rebellion?
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>>101305077
Huh? No. Once she learns how the karmic cycle works, she doesn't fight against it, she fights so that Madoka will never be a part of it to begin with.
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>>101305154
>So you're saying that symbolism is completely removed from the actual themes of the show?
No, not nearly. Just sometimes. An example is >>101304550
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>>101305142
Homura and Kyouko

Homura went to a Catholic school before transferring due to being in the hospital.
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>>101305230
Oh, only sometimes? Illuminate your research methodology for me, then. How do you decide which symbolism is important and which isn't?
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>>101305203
>Once she learns how the karmic cycle works
But that was in the very last timeline? And AFTER Kyouko died so she couldn't emphasize with her about that if it wasn't even on her mind. What are you even...
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>>101305256
I'm pretty sure Kyouko's not Catholic either, Catholic priests can't get married.
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>>101305282
Whichever supports my preferred interpretation.
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>>101305256
Kyouko can't be Catholic if her father was a married priest with a family.
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>>101305230
Scenes aren't put into books or movies for literally no reason

Even when people mistakenly think it's for no reason it's usually character development by showing two people during a less hectic time in order to convey that it's not just explosions nonstop in that world.
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>>101304950
NGE's Christian imagery was empty, yes, but the psychological influences are completely legitimate.
Rebellion's references to classical literature are all completely relevant, but of course you wouldn't know that if you haven't read the books, so you aren't exactly qualified to comment on the subject, are you?
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>>101305154
Symbolism is not as important in the series as it is in the movie, you can ignore it completely and nothing would change in the series, what the characters do and say is much more important.
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>>101305398
Symbolism plays a far larger role in Rebellion than in the series, yes, but that doesn't mean you should just ignore it in the series. Such scenes aren't added for no reason.
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>>101305333
>>101305351
I'm not trying to prove anything by it, but he easily could have started off Catholic. Either way he started preaching his own schtick instead of abiding by church B.S. and everyone labeled him a loser.
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>>101305282
Examine the actual happenings (plot) of the work first. I treat this as the basis as no amount of symbolism can change what actually happens. It can only act as a way to encourage alternate perspectives or to evoke deeper meaning. Examine how that symbolism applies to those happenings. If the symbolism contradicts the happenings or doesn't add anything substantial, it's safe to disregard. Shows where you can disregard symbolism all together and still maintain a strong understanding of the work are safe to disregard for example. I.e, Madoka. Don't get me wrong though, it's still interesting to look at and think about. Just don't put it ahead of the plot or characterization itself.
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>>101305425
The symbolism changes the meaning of a scene? No? Then it can be ignored.
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>>101305485
He was a loser.
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>>101305485
Or he was just Anglican or something.
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>>101305497
But the actual plot shows that Kyouko does indeed care about Sayaka.
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>>101305398
>what the characters do and say is much more important.
And now we've come back to this point.
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>>101305593
Who's trying to deny that?
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>>101305646
What the fuck are you arguing about then?
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>>101305593
And no one denies that, just not in a romantic way like yurifag try to make it look, see >>101305602
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>>101305672
That Sayaka wants to fuck Kyoko or that they're dating or some shit.
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>>101305676
The only people talking about yuri here are the anti-yuri people who get rabidly defensive at the mere thought of it. Love can be platonic.
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>>101303977
It's a brOTP thing. Personal space usually doesn't mean much.
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>>101305725
>Sayaka wants to fuck Kyoko or that they're dating or some shit.
Said no one in this thread.
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>>101305497
>Just don't put it ahead of the plot or characterization itself.
But Madoka has shown that it's often a part of the plot and characterization. That's literally the entire premise of the witches' labyrinths and familiars. Pretty much everything Inukare worked on holds meaning that helps you further understand the world of meduka meguca.
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>>101305762
What the hell is with Kyouko's arms
She's like some horrible spider creature
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>>101305676
>Holding hands
>"Read the mood, will you!?"
>They both blush

Please, anon. Read the mood.
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>>101305798
Can you maintain a strong understanding of Madoka without peering into the symbolism (witch labyrinth runes, familiars, scenes like >>101304550, parallels with classical works, etc)?
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>>101305739
>Love can be platonic.
Yes, shame that yurifags never see it that way though, their relationship is more interesting as comrades in arms than lovers.
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>>101305961
>more interesting as comrades in arms than lovers
It's more interesting because they're both.
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>>101305762
this
>lean over my best friend and type on his keyboard to look stuff up, pretty much just like in that picture
>sit crowded right up against each other if at all necessary, we don't care
>have cuddled when we needed to sleep in the same bed
i-it's not like we're gay for each other or anything
I'm just gay for him ;~;
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>>101305828
Probably Homura's fault. She's always responsible for everything wrong.
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>>101305961
Whether it's platonic or romantic is irrelevant to the plot and themes of the show anyway, getting all up in arms about it is pointless.
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>>101306005
Yes, anon, now go back to /u/ with your fanfiction.



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