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So, are the CR delays permanent?
Are we gonna have to rely on Daiz now?
Are we gonna have to get used to Godrobe and Ultima Uniform?
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>Are we gonna have to get used to Godrobe and Ultima Uniform?
Still better than kamooee and goku uniform
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Or you could drop this shit.
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>>101279956
Just fap to Satsuki and get on with it.
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Well SYD is permanent so I guess KLK is too.
Daiz is the hero we don't deserve.
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Probably. Thank god too, for whatever reason Underwater releases faster if they have to work from scratch.
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Oh no you will have to get used to superior encoding and actual typesetting and translators who actually translate things. You might actually start having taste.
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>>101280265
>>101280155
>>101280071
>>101280031
I just don't like those two terms for some reason.
If it wasn't for them, I'd fellate Daiz because Underwater is better in every other way.
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NO! DON'T SUMMON HIM!
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>>101280391
To summon him, you have to type his name wrong.

Diaz
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>>101280376
You can always open the script in notepad and replace all instances of godrobe if you are so anal.
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>>101280308

Go to bed, Daiz.
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>>101280308
>superior encoding

Pfff.
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>>101280485
>Diaz
>Ever posting in a thread about him or Underwater without his trip.
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>>101280479
I'm too casual for that, but I'm willing to learn.
Could you point to a guide on how to extract the script or whatever?

My knowledge of editing is exactly nil.
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I have class all day Thursday into the night, so I dont care if CR and Horriblesubs come out late at night.

What is getting annoying is the constant changing of times though, I dont think CR understands the meaning of 'Simulcast'.
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>>101280563

Meh, don't bother. It isn't worth it.

The process involves demuxing the file, edit the script, then remuxing the file again.

It's not hard, but very time consuming, especially if you have PoS PC, and the gains are very little.
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>>101280563
>Could you point to a guide on how to extract the script or whatever?
Google.
Sasuga HorribleSubs fans.
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>they delay it
>translation is still shit
>typesetting is still shit
pls shittyroll
pls...
I'd be more upset if I were paying
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>>101280660
Should have figured.
Thanks anyway
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>>101280563
1. Get MKVToolnix and MKVExtractGUI
2. Extract the subs
3. Edit them
4. Put the new subs back into the mkv

Congratulations, you now can work for Commie.
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>>101280660
Can't you just extract the script, edit it to .srt, change whatever you want, disable internal subs and enable external subs?

But I agree, doing all of this just because of a word is pretty ASS.
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>>101279956
>Are we gonna have to get used to Godrobe and Ultima Uniform?
>not wanting everything translated

Full pleb.
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>>101280660
>time consuming
The fuck are you talking about? demuxing an mkv takes less than a minute.
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When Diaz has translation errors like this week and in Gamagori's flashback in episode 8, does he actually go back and fix them and upload a new torrent, or is it just there forever? People of the future who might download the entire show won't be able to see the notes on the blog.
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>>101280872
They'll be fixed in the batch.
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>>101280872
They usually release a v2 patch or fix it for the batch.
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>>101280856

You can do that, but if the .srt uses a font that isn't in your system, then you will have trouble.

Remuxing everything back takes care of that problem.
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>[HorribleSubs] Kill la Kill - 16 [720p]
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>>101280910
>>101280914
Good, I have a friend who only marathons these kind of shows, so I plan on directing him to UW.
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>>101280660
I translate KlaK to my native language every week by extracting the subs from either HS or UTW (I pick whichever comes out first) and the process takes less than a minute

>>101280714
mknvmerge gui 6.60
mkvextract gui 2.2.2.8
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>>101280865

It isn't worth going to all the troubles to change 2 words.
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>>101280970
I wonder, what language?
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>>101279956
Learn another language.
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>>101280975
I'm anal enough to try it once.
What can it hurt?
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>>101280975
I know, but some people are very anal.
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>>101280975
Don't underestimate the work people are willing to do to make their subs worse.
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>>101281029
Not him, but I bet it's spanish.
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Anal Anon here.
I went and did it.

Took some effort, but I'm happy.
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>>101283105
>>101283215
Congratulations, you are now officially autist.
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>Download Underwater
>Open subs
>Find + Replace godrobe and ultima into kamui and goku
>Done
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>>101283924
I did just that.
Having to open them in DirectVobSub is Kind of a pain though
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>>101283997
What
DirectVobSub loads automatically with my MPC-HC and the subs override the internal ones with the external
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>>101284064
Yes, but you have to select them every time.

Is there another way?
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>>101284116
Like I said, mine loads them automatically and selects them too.
Your install might be weird.
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>>101280308
This isn't good for anyone. Underwater was using CR 1080p as a base because the video was a higher quality than the transport stream. Either Underwater is delayed by this or they release sooner with video of a poorer quality than they were otherwise able to encode.

>>101283997
Did you remux the resulting file or are you sitting there with external subs like some kind of dirty shitlord?
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>>101284223
I'll admit I used CCCP since I'm lazy
How do you extract the subs that you overwrite.
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>>101284116
If you've already downloaded MKVToolNix, use the included MKV Merge GUI (mmg.exe) the mux they new subtitle file. Set it as default if you want it to load automatically.
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>>101284333
Remuxing results in the loss of the original font, so yes. A shitlord I be.
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>>101284341
Load the MKV into AegiSub

>>101284407
Sounds like you forgot to include the embedded fonts
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>>101284407
Not if you do it correctly it doesn't.
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>>101284407
Stop being retarded.
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>>101284434
>>101284445
>>101284465
I have much to learn, it seems
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>>101284504
>>101284504
Not really, I don't know how you managed to fuck it up. You just remux the original file with the new subs and then uninclude the old subs.
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>>101284434
I can't seem to extract the fonts.

Is it something wrong with the gui?
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>>101283924
>>101283997
If you realize the translation change, why go through the effort?
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>>101284803
It's annoying

>>101284685
They're either embedded in the sub file or in the MKV itself
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>>101284685
You shouldn't need to extract the fonts. Just open mmg.exe, drag the existing Underwater file to it, add your own sub file, and set it as default.
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>>101284934
It's the GUI for the program I was using. It couldn't do fonts
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>>101280863
Godrobe and Ultima Uniform are not translations, they're just plain shit.

Kamui isn't even an actual word in Japanese, it's made up and exists only within the KLK universe so there's no point in "translating" it.
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>>101285312
>Godrobe and Ultima Uniform are not translations
The fact that you don't like them, doesn't make it any less off a translation.
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Crunchyroll is fucking up everything.

I can no longer watch Chuunibyou on Wednesdays.
I can no longer watch Kill la Kill on Thursdays.
I can no longer watch Seitokai Yakuindomo on Saturdays.

Everything is getting pushed to hell.
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If it's blue on Nyaa it must be good.
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>>101285383
Just because you say they're translations doesn't make it so.
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>>101284994
I didn't think of just muxing the subtitles back into it.

I was being a total retard and taking the whole thing apart.

Thanks. Shit works now.
My autistic self will probably do this for all the episodes now
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>>101285442
Give me any reference at all that show that kamui is an actual word in Japanese.
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>>101285476
Forgot my image
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>>101285442
Sure.

But this is still a translation, whether you like it or not.
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>>101285312
TL Note: 神衣 literally means "God Clothes".
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>>101285389
Now that they have killed most of the fansub scene they have no reason to even try at all.
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>>101285507
It's not... that's my point.

>>101285561
No. It's just a clumsy approximation.
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>>101280821
This means i can finally fix the shitshow CR (and Horribleshitsubs by proxy) made of Magi
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>>101285507
Jesus dicks christ how fucking retarded can you be? It's a play on words that is translated into another, perhaps to you less clever, play on words with an absolutely similar meaning. You can be asspained over an actual translation all you want but take your stupidity somewhere else please.
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>>101285631
I know what the individual kanji mean. But it's not an actual word outside of KLK.
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>>101285810
Your point?
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>>101285863
There's no point in "translating" it to godrobe, since it's not an actual word.

I just spelled it out for you in previous posts. Are you capable of reading?
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>>101285810
And? Just because it's two separate words it mens that it shouldn't be translated?
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>>101285707
If you can't accept changing 神衣 to Godrobe, then you should just stop watching subtitles in general. Seriously, every translation takes tons of "liberties" like these, even the so called literal groups.
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>>101285914
>What is a nelogism
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>>101285518
Did you honestly go and edit back "goku uniform", even though it's truly the worst term for it?
Now, even if you so very much want your terms left in Japanese, you could at least leave it as gokuseifuku.

"Goku Uniform" still hasn't bothered translating it, what with plainly leaving "goku" transcripted. But dividing it goku and uniform still messes the entire term up, its meaning and its connotations.
So even though it translated seifuku to uniform it barely has any of the intended connotations.
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>>101285929
Catch on quick don't you?
It's not a translation if the word itself is made up.
That would be like translating Jedi to mean something like "magical laser sword person" in another language.
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>>101286000
Neologism* my bad
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>>101285989
>If you can't accept changing 神衣 to Godrobe, then you should just stop watching subtitles in general.
That's not an argument.
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>>101286036
>Comparing an actual invented word with the combination of 2 existing words.
Now you are just grasping for straws
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>>101286124
Kamui isn't an invented word?
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>>101286113
It wasn't supposed to be, retard.
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>>101286036
>It's not a translation if the word itself is made up.
I haven't been arguing this point. But that there is just plain not true.
If the word has meaning and connotations, it doesn't matter if it's made up. It can be translated and translations of it are indeed translations.
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>>101286182
Then good job on typing a string of meaningless drivel.
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>>101286180
It's an invented word if you consider portmanteau to be an "invention". It wasn't invented whole cloth.
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>Paid subscribers of CR are being fucked royally every week when they were promised simulcasted episodes

Why the fuck would anyone pay for this shit?
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>>101286249
Are you just pretending to be retarded?
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>>101286180
It's a combination of 2 existing words, not invented from the ground. Did you even read the post?
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>>101286226
>If the word has meaning and connotations, it doesn't matter if it's made up.
No shit, that's not my point. The word Kamui doesn't exist in Japanese so translating it to English is moot. The word "Kamui" has just as much meaning in Japanese as it does in English since it exists only within the KLK universe and all of it's meaning is derived solely from the context within the show itself.

That would be like saying you need to translate the word "Materia" in FF7 from Japanese to English, or some other made up word. It's a ludicrous, untenable argument.

>>101286338
No. You seem to be actually retarded though.

>>101286397
Why does that even matter at all?
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>>101286476
>The word "Kamui" has just as much meaning in Japanese as it does in English
>all of it's meaning is derived solely from the context within the show itself.
Holy shit.
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>>101286476
But it's not a made up word. It's a portmanteau. There's a fucking difference. Portmanteaus DO have meaning, meaning that the Japanese would get from Kamui but that an English speaker would not. So it requires translation.
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>>101286476
By your logic you shouldn't be able to translate "γῆλoγία" (geology) as "The science of the Earth"
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>>101286568
>So it requires translation.
No. It doesn't.

>>101286582
That's not how it's translated though, that's its definition.
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>>101286476
>The word "Kamui" has just as much meaning in Japanese as it does in English since it exists only within the KLK universe and all of it's meaning is derived solely from the context within the show itself.
That's not true though. The word kamui, in Japanese, has connotations inherent to it in and out of itself.
And then it's defined within the show.

But the above mentioned connotations are nowhere seen in a plain romaji transcript, let alone in an English script.
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You tell em my Underwater bros

Turtle Devastation Wave FTW xDDD
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>>101286476
>The word "Kamui" has just as much meaning in Japanese as it does in English
I hope you are being retarded on purpose.
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>Gawd Robe
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>>101286657
No it's the translation "γῆ" means "Earth" and "λoγία" means science.
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>>101286716
>Hurp no argument, better call him retarded.
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If you don't like the translations then feel free to make your own sub group.
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>>101286931
I'll just edit mine. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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>>101286864
What counter-argument can you give to a sheer retarded argument with no base on reality?
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>>101286931
I vote for [Gizoogle].
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>>101286036
>That would be like translating Jedi to mean something like "magical laser sword person" in another language.
No. It would more or less be like translating the term "brunch".
And the term has in fact been translated to numerous manners of languages through the translations of the LotR novels.
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>>101286980
>sheer retarded argument with no base on reality?
How is it retarded with no base on reality?
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>>101279956
ARE YOU GOING TO FUCKING CARE ABOUT CR?
REALLY?
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>>101287048
Because saying that Kamui has no inherent meaning in Japanese is retarded, simple as that.
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>>101287116
We care about CR only in the sense that we care about HorribleSubs.
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>>101287160
If they can't deliver on time, why bother.
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so why aren't more translators translating insteadof borrowing notes from crunchyroll
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>>101287142
Care to refute that with any actual sources or evidence?
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>>101287198
Because some people don't like Gawdrobe or Ultima Uniform.
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>>101287209
effort
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>>101285312
Google Kamui and tell me what the first hit is.
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I don't understand, Daiz goes out of his way to ensure better translations and superior typesetting and you fags don't want that?
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>>101287272
Change it in the fucking file if it bothers you so much.
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>>101287219
Any Japanese speaker would know that "Kamui" means "God Clothes" or "Divine Clothes" reading the kanji.
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This is hilarious. The people defending kamui > Godrobe are the same people who like to explain that "translation isn't about translating each word literally; it's about translating meaning." Then they turn around and literally translate each individual character of a portmanteau to completely muddy the meaning of a word which is made up for and defined within the show itself. Kamui have nothing to do with God and they have nothing to do with robes.
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>>101287426
Kamui simply just sounds better than Gawd Robe

deal with it
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>>101279956
I got your back /a/.
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>>101287386
No, they would listen to the next fucking line in the script and know that it means clothing made from 100% life fibers and has nothing to do with God. There aren't even capital letters in Japanese so I have no idea why they thought it was a good idea to capitalize it. Don't get me wrong- godrobe would be stupid as well- but Godrobe is about as retarded as it could be, because they've taken their muddying of the meaning even further by implying a kamui has anything to do with God.
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>>101287490
Obentou sounds better than boxed lunch

Deal with it.
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>>101287565
>There aren't even capital letters in Japanese so I have no idea why they thought it was a good idea to capitalize it
Oh god, this is gold.
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>>101287565
OK, I get it now you are actually retarded.

Sorry for making fun of you before.
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>>101287565
It's about how the kanji for it reads you babboon
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Please don't say you actually prefer CR speedsubs.
What the fuck is up with the people these two last seasons have brought to /a/.
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What? Are you going to try to tell me kamui is a proper noun?
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>>101287565
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamui
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>>101287731
What does this have to do with the kamui from KlK?
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>>101287565
>it means clothing made from 100% life fibers and has nothing to do with God
>There aren't even capital letters in Japanese so I have no idea why they thought it was a good idea to capitalize it
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>caring about certain words in subs

you still understand what's being said, do you even care about what you're watching or are you just watching anime to compare translators?
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>>101287720
Regardless of translation quality, I just don't like CR's typesetting.
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>>101287720
>muh fansubbing culture :((((((
fuck off

HS is doing gods work

good ridance
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>>101287796
double meaning. kamui reads as god robe, but also means this.
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>>101287796
You are the living embodiment of dumb.
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Hey do we still post anime remixes?

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iJFSoPk-CU
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>>101287720

If it wasn't for CR several shows wouldn't have been subbed very quickly. I remember waiting almost a week for Evetaku to get their shit together for Rozen Maiden, and this season I doubt anyone would have subbed The Pilot's Love Song.
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>>101287838
It does not mean that. It means what it fucking means. They explain what it means in the god damned show.
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>>101287565
You're going into my folder of shamefur dispray.
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>>101287834
Not really. It's doing a machine's job, I would say.

Because it's a machine doing it.
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>>101287838
>robe
No.
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>>101287866

man she'd be the best girl ever if it weren't for her stupid hair
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>>101287887
Are you a fucking idiot or something?
Kanji for Kamui reads as "divine clothing" or "god robe" if you like. It's also a mythical creature.
They didn't invent the word for the purpose of KLK, it directly means what it reads as, and it also references mythology.
Seriously what the fuck.
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>>101287838
Why robe?
Why fucking robe.

I even braved the fabled IRC and asked Daiz himself, and all I got was a
>Because I said so

I mean, Kamui is a portmanteau in Japanese, why isn't the translated term also a portmanteau?

Is it because Kamui doesn't have a fucking engish equivalent?
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>>101287565
>it means clothing made from 100% life fibers and has nothing to do with God
That's how they are fucking called in-universe, you dense motherfucker. It doesn't matter what they actually are.
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>>101287866
GG did a pretty cool one back in the not-so-old days.

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbbLsN-JJEc
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>>101287926
So it's a Deus Ex thing.
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>>101287874
Exactly. The only reason to ever use HS is because their releases are fast, because CR is (usually) fast, just like there were speedsubbers in the past (which all have died thanks to Daiz). However, nowadays you have people that prefer shitty typesetting and translations over things that have some effort put into them simply because they don't like "Godrobe". Seriously what the fuck
I'm not in favor of overlocalizations and I miss TL notes, but using something of inferior quality simply because one word is just seriously
I bet they like Funimation rips as well
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>>101288065
Why the fuck does it matter? They wanted to translate the word instead of leaving it as it is.
Therefore, "God robe" or "godrobe" rolls off the tongue much better than "diving clothing" or whatever.
You can't retain the other meaning, but you can at least make it sound all right.
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>>101288152
>Therefore, "God robe" or "godrobe" rolls off the tongue much better than "diving clothing" or whatever.
you know what rolls out of the mouth better?

Kamui
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>>101288065
>Kamui doesn't have a fucking engish equivalent
Like 50% of Japanese words. Doesn't mean you shouldn't translate them.
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>>101288094
That's a complete music replacement.

>>101287866
This guys one was a remix.
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>>101288065
God robe does admittedly flow better than god garb. God clothes, divine clothing, whatever.
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>>101288201
But they decided to translate it.
Jesus, are you an idiot or something?
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>>101288127
Well, you could say it's a *literal* Deus Ex Machina, but I still don't see where you're pulling the Deux from.
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>>101286692
Irony aside, the only reason you find Kamehameha better is because of nostalgia.
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>>101287720
Better then relying on Commie.
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>>101288065
>Is it because Kamui doesn't have a fucking engish equivalent?
Do you have any idea how impossible Japanese would be to translate following this mindset?
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>>101287991
It doesn't have anything to do with that though. If I watch a cartoon in English that has something called a zoot suit, and then the very next part of the script explains that a zoot suit is a string bikini that gives the wearer magical powers, I'm not going to be thinking it actually has anything to do with bad fashion from the 50s because what it means IN UNIVERSE is explained for me. What kamui means in universe is explained and by translating the characters themselves literally all you're doing is messing up the meaning of the word itself.
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>>101288201
Nope.
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>>101288201
>My weeaboo standards apply to everyone else
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>>101279956
>not knowing how to fix that default shit
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>>101288303
Just a joke. Machina goes without saying and makes the joke longer and more unwieldly.
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>>101288313
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>>101288201
Nah it doesn't.

>Kamueeh?
>Kameeúaheeh?
>Kéimuhee?

Not to say that kamui itself doesn't carry any meaning to english. You might as well smurf it then.
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>>101288352
So if it described is as a God robe and then precieded to explain it wasn't anything about God you would realise it wasn't actually about God?
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>>101288290
>But they decided to translate it.
And a fine mess they made of it.
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>>101288439
Well, there's also Deus Ex Hominem (I don't latin, so that might not be gramatically correct).
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>>101288352
Do you have problems feeding yourself too?
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kamuclothes
eoten seifuku
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>Eotena
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>>101288548
Can't defend an illogical position? Call your opponent names! No one will ever know.
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>>101288352
>What kamui means in universe is explained and by translating the characters themselves literally all you're doing is messing up the meaning of the word itself.
Explaining what something doesn't change how it's called and doesn't change the fact that "Kamui" has a meaning in japanese and doesn't in english.
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>>101288610
Do you not understand that in like 90% anime things like "kamui" don't ride only on the in-universe meaning, but also on the meaning of the kanji used to write them, mythological references and other shit like that?
Or is anything other than "thor hammer is a huge fucking cannon" lost on you?
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>>101288665
Waht something is*
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>>101285810
>But it's not an actual word outside of KLK.
Your fucking point!?

All words are fabricated and made up you retard.
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>>101288815
Except it _IS_ an actual word in japanese outside of KlK.
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Deal with it
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divine + vest = divests (portmanteau and also has extra meaning)
can I be a fansubber now
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>>101289017
>divests
This is why you are not a fansubber
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>>101289017
>divests
I would be fine with this. Sounds classy.
I wish these were the official subs.
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>>101288152
Oh hell no, did you just say godrobe sounds good.
I can see the reason in meaning at least a fraction, despite the originals entire purpose and half of it's meaning being a portmanteau.

But that it sounds good?
Do you even have the slightest inclination of how syllables combine to form words?

There are objectively awful sounding words.

God you fucking faggots are the worst. Like, do you not even realize the words you're typing have been filtered through generations upon generations of millions of people speaking.

People who speak english fucking use words that sound good to them, which believe it or not can be actually measured based on syllables and length.

There's a fucking reason why ehauwdeah isn't a real word.

What do I need to write a fucking doctrine on why the syllables of "godrobe" are an unpleasant combination because of human facial biology and involuntary response?

But fine, let's pretend it actually sounds good.
It's still fucking stupid because it's defined right after it's introduced.

Something like
>Self Flaggelation
was an actually good translation because we have no idea what the fuck it is.

Daiz has no self control when it comes to translating.
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>there are weeaboos who actually want to keep the japanese name

It's called a translation for a reason. If I wanted it in Japanese, I'd learn Japanese.
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>>101289297
It's sounds good, faggot.

And Daiz doesn't translate.
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>>101289297
Holy shit this thread is hilarious.
It sounds good, deal with it.

Shall we make ehauwdeah a real word?
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>>101289297
>LET'S SKINNY DIVING
Are you by chance bothered when people translate "bitch" into "slut" and whatever else?
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>>101289297
GEE I WONDER WHAT "SELF-FLAGELLATION" MIGHT MEAN.
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>>101289297
>all this autism

Godrobe sounds good.
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>>101289297
But godrobe is a pleasant combination.
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where are the incest lesbian gifs?
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>>101289297
>Daiz
>Translating

Who was the TL for this episode, anyway? 8thSin?
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>>101289297
I dunno about you but I find Godrobe to be pleasing to the ear
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>>101289370
>complaining about weebs on 4chan
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>>101289297
I bet you want to keep honorifics too.
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>>101285312
>Kamui isn't even an actual word in Japanese, it's made up and exists only within the KLK universe so there's no point in "translating" it.

I wouldn't bet money on that if I were you
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>>101289650
...but you're reading it anon, not listening to it
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So, first time in these threads and I see why nobody likes you bunch.
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>>101289634
Futsuu.
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meh

When actually spoken Kamui sounds better to me, so HS it is
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>>101289854
I read every post in this site aloud.
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>>101289899
Good, then leave.
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>>101289962
>supporting shit
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>>101290038
upset?
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>>101289854
When I'm talking about Kill la Kill with friends, we all say Godrobe aloud.
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>>101290076
Kill yourself.
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You're next line will be
>U MAD?
Toyu
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>>101290130
see>>101290137
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>GAWD ROBE

I cringe evrytime
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>this entire thread
>trolls trolling trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling trolling trolling trolls trolling trolls trolling.jpg
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>>101290158
First sign of autism.
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>>101288815
>All words are fabricated and made up you retard.
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This is one of the most serious but hilarious thread I have seen in a while.
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>>101290158
I'll defend Godrobe. It's a good translation because it actually has grounding in the kanji. Ultima Uniform is pretty fucking stupid, but c'mon. Translating it to Goku UNIFORM instead is just balls-on-head retarded. Either leave it untranslated or come up with something.
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>>101290423

You should have the seen the last thread about the translation of godrobe. It eventually shifted to almost a hundred posts on how to translate "atarimae da."
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>>101290423
as expected from Underwater tards
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>>101290423
There's no better way to spend your Friday nights than sperging in threads like this.
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>>101288455
stop sending settlers near my base.
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>>101290914
L-lewd
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>>101291073
You should see the source image. Jesus is hung.
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>>101290914
Why didn't they translate Senketsu?
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>>101290914
SACRILEGE
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Why does it matter? Is seeing "godrobe" going to somehow unravel what you know about the word "kamui"?

From all the bitching, it's pretty clear that not many people even understand what a kamui is. Godrobe makes perfect sense when you consider that kamui are animist divinities rather than conventional 'gods'.
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>>101291161
Gomen, gomen.
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The problem with godrobe is that Senketsu is a school uniform, not a fucking robe
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>>101291234

Because people prefer non-translations for no good reason.

>It's more faithful to the source material because it's literal!

Well, that doesn't matter if it flows as well as dogshit mixed with molasses in English. Either go full TL note a la Azumanga or full localization a la Joshiraku, none of this in-between "Goku Uniform" and "Ryuko Matoi" bullshit.
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>>101291489
>Ryuko Matoi
whats the problem with that
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>>101291489
It's been a while since I watched Azumanga but I don't remember any of the TL notes if there were alot?
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>>101291624

Because her fucking name is Matoi Ryuuko. They're dropping the second う and reversing the name order, even though fucking everyone knows that the familial name comes first in Japanese. It's so jarring seeing "Ryuko Matoi" while hearing "Matoi Ryuuko" that I religiously avoid HS unless every other option is exponentially worse.

>>101291717

It's been about ten years fuck since I've seen Azumanga, but I remember that the subs were some god-awful nearly illegible off-red font with TL notes out the ass. There are probably better subs out by now though.
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>>101291872
>god-awful nearly illegible off-red font with TL notes out the ass
I miss those days.
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>arguing over subs
this wouldn't be an issue if you faggots would actually learn the damn language so you can watch it raw. either that or stop giving a shit about other people's persona preferences. oh who am i kidding you faggots will fight over anything.
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>>101291872
>It's so jarring seeing "Ryuko Matoi" while hearing "Matoi Ryuuko"

I've read this entire thread and I'm still shocked that someone can be this autistic.
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>>101291991
RAWs don't have good typesetting.
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>>101291991
>other people's persona preferences
Izanagi a shit
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>>101291872
>It's so jarring seeing "Ryuko Matoi" while hearing "Matoi Ryuuko" that I religiously avoid HS unless every other option is exponentially worse.
While I too usually avoid HS, I don't really get this. Same with people saying it's jarring to hear the honorifics but not having them in the subs, or a character saying something in Engrish but the subs saying something else.

I'm not saying I prefer any name order over another; this is so incredibly minor that it won't affect my judgement over a subtitle at all.
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>>101292087
Dis nigga didn't reach out to the truth
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>>101291991

No, fuck you, I will always give a shit about that. Persona 3 is way better than 4 and that's objective fact.

>>101292022

How would you like it if someone in the show said "banana" and they translated it as "anaban"?

You wouldn't, right?

>>101292107

"Today the U.S. president gave a speech. "

"My name is Obama Barack. Here I greet my opponent Romney Mitt and my VP Biden Joe."

IT'S FUCKING NOT RIGHT, THEY ARE REVERSING IT FOR NO REASON, HOW CAN THIS NOT BOTHER YOU
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It's been making me cum fucking buckets watching you fags cry about these subs

Soooooooooooo goooooooooooood
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>>101291872
I have the DVD version with what I guess are the official subs because the dual audio is hilarious. The subs are white with black border and a drop shadow. Looks alright to me. Pretty sure there aren't any TL notes either.
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>>101292236
>IT'S FUCKING NOT RIGHT, THEY ARE REVERSING IT FOR NO REASON, HOW CAN THIS NOT BOTHER YOU
Jesus christ, man. It's not a big deal at all.
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Why does Underwater have dual sub versions for Mideshi and Nagi no Asukara but not for Kill la Kill?
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>>101292236
>HOW CAN THIS NOT BOTHER YOU

Because not everyone is a weeblord.
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>>101292398

According to wikipedia: "In the United States, the anime television series was released by ADV Films in both a six-volume DVD set on 9 September 2005"

I saw it before then, so there you go.

>>101292486
>>101292590

It's not like it's the end of the world, but when it is objectively wrong, why would you prefer that over something that's objectively right? If you have no preference, whatever, it doesn't bother you. But if you think "Ryuko Matoi" is better you are literally just plain wrong.
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>Kamui vs Godrobe
>Goku vs Ultima

What have I done?
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>>101292663
though I think we can agree Ultima > Goku
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>>101292729
Translated > Untranslated in general.
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>>101292616
>>101292236
>>101291872
nigga, the only character the specifically calls her Matoi Ryuuko is Satsuki
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>>101292663
>>101292729

This, at least. Argue if you will over Kamui and Godrobe because it's a portmanteau, it's a grey area. But "Goku Uniform" is just pants-on-head retarded.
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>>101287504
Yeah, I did the same thing dude. See >>101283105
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>>101287304
I want the typesetting without Ultima and Godrobe.

I'll just take Underwater and fuck with the subtitles.
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What the fuck does Goku mean?
What the fuck does Kamui mean?
What the fuck does any Nipponese mean in HS unsubs? I speak American.
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>>101293202
There just cool names
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Kamui is part of Senketsu's name so it should be left untranslated

unless they translate Senketsu as well
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>>101292756
Ultima isn't a translation...
Ultima isn't a fucking word.
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This reminds about the time when Bleach was dubbed to spanish and every mexican weeabo was trowing a bitch fit because they translated shinigami and hollow
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>all these Underwater-cocksuckers

I couldn't care less about how/whether or not it's translated (both sound good to me), but it's really pathetic how upset you faggots are getting over someone insulting your favorite sub group.
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>>101293381
this

The Daisuki spanish subs use Ultra which i think is a much better translation

and Bio Fiber also sounds better than Life Fiber to me, especially after the ep 16 reveal
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>>101293381
its a spanish word
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>>101290532
>I'll defend Godrobe. It's a good translation
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>>101293423

>WAAA WAAA STOP DISCUSSING THINGS

Why don't you and every other one of you "lol pathetic losers who cares" faggots fuck off to any other thread? This is a thread specifically for discussing KLK subs, so why do you come in and parade around like you're the fucking bee's knees just because you don't give a fuck? Just because you don't care if your subs are good or not doesn't mean that other people can't.
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>>101286657
>That's not how it's translated though, that's its definition.
Holy shit you're stupid
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>>101293601
That's nice and all, but I don't recall downloading Spanish subs.
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>>101293649
No, I'm pretty sure you're the stupid one here.
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>>101293399
Unless shinigami was translated as great destroyer, there is no fucking excuse.

>>101291872
>more than ten years since Azumanga's fansubs

Please don't do this to me, anon. It's bad enough that the other day I realized I haven't watched Pani Poni since it aired almost a decade ago.
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>>101293618
Keep fellating that cock, faglord.
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>>101293756
What a constructive post.
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>>101293741

I'm long overdue for an Azumanga rewatch, might do it in a few weeks. AB probably has a pretty good selection of subs.

>>101293756

>I have literally no rebuttal
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>>101289297
GodRobe does sound good actually. It's cool in the same way GodHand sounds cool. Never played any video games?

All words are made up anyway and it translates as "God Clothes" so GodRobe is a great and cool way to do it.

You're freaking out over nothing.
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This thread is amazing.
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>>101293921

Is it, though?
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>Gawd robe
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I'm surprised more people haven't been complaining about how stuff like Satsuki-sama gets translated to Lady Satsuki.
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>>101293912
I like how everything you just said was wrong.
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>>101294008
Compared to abominations like Gawdrobe and Ultima Uniform, honorifics can take the back seat.
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>>101294049
Words come from nothing. They're all fabricated and made up. It's literally what people think "sounds good"

Stop trolling already.
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>>101294119

Explain how "Ultima Uniform" is an "abomination" and what a better translation would be.
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It's like calling Bakemonogatari Ghostory.
It's just fucking stupid and shouldn't be tampered with.
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>>101294167
>It's literally what people think "sounds good"
>Stop trolling already.
0/10

>>101294206
Ultra would be better, but keeping it as Gokuseifuku would be best in my opinion.
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Saying kamui invokes the thought of "clothing of the Gods" to a Japanese mind.

GodRobe is fine.
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>>101294270
Wouldn't it be Monstory?
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>>101294295
>Trolling this much
So silly.
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>>101280376
>Wanting translations all over the fucking screen instead of at the bottom were they belong.
If you have something to say about a painting in a museum you put it on a plaque under the painting, not all over the fucking thing.

Anime typesetting is some new trending youth thing that I'll never get. The only real improvement in subbing was dropping the yellow.
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>>101294349
http://jisho.org/words?jap=%E3%81%B0%E3%81%91%E3%82%82%E3%81%AE&eng=&dict=edict&common=on&romaji=on
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>>101294299
Except for the part where it's not a fucking robe.
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>>101294349
I hate you.
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>>101294351
Right. I'm the one who's trolling.
Whatever you say boss.
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>>101294206
>Ultima
Ultima means the last syllable of a word. How does that even make sense outside of fucking video game slang?
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>>101294419
You don't get that robes come in different kinds, huh?

Also nothing else sounds as good or appropriate.

GodShirt
GodAttire
GodClothing
GodEnsemble

They're also not literally Gods, do you want to nitpick that too???
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>>101294502
>He's still going

>Ultima means the last syllable of a word. How does that even make sense outside of fucking video game slang?

How do you think words get started? You think an entire nation all has a meeting one day and decides on what a word means?

As of today many people recognize ultima as being a subversion of ultimate and what comes with the word ultimate.
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>>101294565
>You don't get that robes come in different kinds, huh?
I've never seen a robe that looks exactly like a girl's school uniform. Have you?

>Also nothing else sounds as good or appropriate.
Then why change it?

>They're also not literally Gods, do you want to nitpick that too???
Sure why not.
Also, you only need one "?".
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>>101294419
God School Sailor Uniform
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>>101294695
>Also, you only need one "?".
Troll detected.
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>>101294694
>As of today many people recognize ultima as being a subversion of ultimate
Do you even know what a subversion is?
Or are you just using that word because "it's just made up and sounds nice"?
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>>101294694
>As of today many people recognize ultima as being a subversion of ultimate and what comes with the word ultimate.
>Many people.
Only fuckers who have played video games. I shouldn't have to play video games to watch anime!
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>>101294695
The Millenium Falcon is also not a Falcon nor is it a period of time.

Please get a grip
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>>101294755
Nice rebuttal.
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>>101294776
It's funny because you actually think you understand language or something haha
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>KLK
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/v/
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>>101294827
Millenium Falcon is a proper noun, dipshit.
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>>101294270

Translating the name of the show != translating terminology or words.

>>101294295

Ultra is just preference. Keeping it Gokuseifuku would lose the meaning for anyone not familiar with Japanese. Goku Uniform is just fucking idiotic.

Ultima > Ultra > Gokuseifuku > Goku Uniform

>>101294349
>>101294415

"Ghostory" flows like shit. Even though it wouldn't be an exact portmanteau, Monstory would be way better than the former. It's better to just keep it as Bakemono though.

>>101294515

>Ultima means the last syllable of a word.

Yeah, and "faggot" means a bundle of sticks.
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>>101294892
So you don't know what subversion means?
Good to know.
>haha
It's funny because you actually think you're being intelligent or clever or something "haha".
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>>101294840
>>101294796
>>101294776
Superb trolling, gents
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>>101294985
>Ultima > Ultra > Gokuseifuku > Goku Uniform
Nice opinion you've got there son. Don't mind me as I'll be discarding it promptly.
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>Kamui
>Not Jersey Devil
>Goku Uniform
>Not Power Jersey
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>>101294827
It's a person with a falcon as a crest whose appearance for foretold during the previous millennium. What's your point?
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>>101295019
>I have no argument, better call them trolls and post image macros
Please kill yourself tonight. Do us all a favor.
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>>101294997
Not that guy but ultimate is indeed a subversion of ultimate. It's a broken/corrupted word, hence subversion. I don't think you understand all the meanings of subversion yourself. Even though some are really obvious and clear (sub-version)
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>>101294565
>???
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>>101295071

Nice meme paraphrasing. I'm having that feel when your opinions are shit. Trololol, if you will.
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>>101295147
When trolling don't resort to death shit, it's low tier
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>anons are so autist that they have to make sure everyone else's autism is just like theirs or they have an autistismal meltdown

Holy fuck, I'm laughing my ass off.
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>>101295223

see

>>101293618
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>>101295149
FYI "Ultima" would be, what we call, a "derivative" of "Ultimate".
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>>101295149
Meant to say ultima is indeed a subversion of ultimate.
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How long until all these retarded oldfag weeaboos get driven out of here by the normalfag/tumblr crowd? Tired of stuff like this.
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>>101295281
FYI calling it a subversion of it is accurate actually as well since it's a corruption of ultimate.
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>>101279956

What's up with Crunchyroll? Are they worried about having to censor something? The stuff they already have is pretty crazy already.
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>>101295215
So you don't have an actual argument?
Thanks for playing I guess. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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>>101295329
It's IRC trolling actually.
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>>101295417
I don't get why they think this is fun, they could be watching anime or actually doing something constructive with their time.
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I don't think puns should be translated.
If a word is close to a nonsense word and is the name of a thing I don't think it needs to be translated, but it might not hurt too.

As far as I'm concerned Gokuseifuku is a pun on Uniform. The pun shouldn't be translated but the uniform part is important. Goku Uniform sounds a bit dumb, but it fine by me.

Kamui is basically a nonsense word. Sure it has meaning, but Kanji assures that pretty much everthing does. Not translating it is fine.
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>>101295345
No. It might be understood what was meant, but it would be more inaccurate to call it a "subversion".

>subversion (səbˈvɜːʃən)
>— n
>1. the act or an instance of subverting or overthrowing a legally constituted government, institution, etc
>2. the state of being subverted; destruction or ruin
>3. something that brings about an overthrow

Thanks for trying.
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>>101294381
God forbid they spoil the intricate artwork inside the giant characters.
I haven't watched CR at all for KLK, but they're also known for plastering text translations all over the screen with no regard for making them unobtrusive or readable.
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>>101295521
Better be careful with your opinions there. Daiz cock-suckers might come along and insult you for having them.
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>>101295521

>Goku Uniform sounds a bit dumb, but it fine by me.

Explain in an objective manner how "Goku Uniform" is superior to "Ultima Uniform". Don't dodge the question like so many others have done, please.
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>>101295568
>The one entry I looked up online holds every single meaning of the word!
Such lazy trolling.

Though I bet you really are stupid enough to think the first entry you find online holds every meaning of a word. I mean, wow. You're quite pitiful.
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>>101295650
>in an objective manner
That's not how objectivity works.
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>>101295650
He didn't say that it was better, he just said that it was fine. I don't really care which one they use as long as they keep it consistent.
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>>101295696
That's right. Don't bother trying to actually argue my point. Just keep playing the tired troll card. You're sure proving me wrong.
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>>101295764
Anyone can see you're trolling now though. That or stupid and not really understanding that word has meanings outside of what you listed.
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>>101295708

In fact, it is. Please stop lying. He could explain it in a subjective manner, i.e. "It just sounds better to me", or in an objective manner, using facts. If you keep lying I'll have to report you, because lying is shitposting.
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Wait, I don't rely on subs, but why the fuck would CR suddenly delay simulcasts?
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>>101295812
Yup. You sure got me. I'm most certainly trolling. You can tell by how I'm actually presenting rebuttals and arguments while you keep resorting to calling me a troll.
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>>101295284
>ultima is indeed a subversion of ultimate
By Jupiter, what is this barbarian ranting on about?
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>>101295650
>Ultima
Ultima doesn't mean shit to normal people or those of us past wizard age. Using it is confusing an odd. Ultimate would be fine, but also sounds just as dumb as Goku Uniform.
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>>101295814
>If you keep lying I'll have to report you, because lying is shitposting.
Report me then. See how much I care.

Do you have some actual hard data to back up your "objective" preference for one translation over another?

Can I see some peer reviewed data on that objective assessment of yours?

Do you even know what objective means?
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>>101295814
>If you keep lying I'll have to report you, because lying is shitposting.
Oh shit.
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>>101295943
>I'm totally not the troll guys!
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>>101295881
They sent an e-mail saying Sakura Trick will be pushed to Friday because of delivery issues. I assume this is a systemic thing that is causing a delay for a bunch of shows.
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>>101295814
>In fact, it is. Please stop lying.
In fact, it's not. Please stop lying.
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>people seriously this butthurt over Godrobe vs Kamui and Goku vs Ultima

If the words "mean nothing, and have no reason to be translated" why does it matter if they're translated to better fit the language everything else is translated to?

Spell names in Harry Potter mean nothing and are often made of Latin roots, similar to Kamui being made of existing Japanese words, but that shit is still translated.

Or in other words, why are you faggots throwing autistic fits over words that in your own logic "mean nothing"? Why are you faggots so upset about the conversion of meaningless words into meaningless words to better fit into a language?
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>>101296261
>why does it matter if they're translated to better fit the language everything else is translated to?
Because they're not translated to "better fit the language". In fact, they're translated rather clumsily.
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>>101296258

No, you're lying. If you would like to prove otherwise, then please explain why explaining things in an objective manner is apparently impossible.

And if possible, do so in an objective manner.

>>101296008

>Do you have some actual hard data to back up your "objective" preference for one translation over another?

Yes. "Goku Uniform" and "Ultima Uniform" are the same in the "Uniform" department. They differ, of course, between "Goku" and "Ultima". "Goku" means nothing to English speakers except conjuring up images of DBZ. "Ultima" is obviously a derivative of "ultimate", and even without seeing a single second of KLK, one can glean from the terminology that they're some special sort of uniform with some sort of special or powerful attribute. A translation that imparts more relevant information is objectively better than a translation that does not impart said relevant information because that is literally the entire point of a translation.
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>>101296383
>please explain why explaining things in an objective manner is apparently impossible.
That wasn't even the argument. Nice job on reading comprehension.
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>>101296261
>Spell names in Harry Potter mean nothing and are often made of Latin roots, similar to Kamui being made of existing Japanese words, but that shit is still translated.
What Harry Potter are you reading?
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>>101287874
>>101288136
>fast
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>>101296383
>one can glean from the terminology that they're some special sort of uniform with some sort of special or powerful attribute.
How do you know that? Did you watch KLK episode 1 too? Did you read the series synopsis like everyone else that had to define what an "Ultima Uniform" is?

>A translation that imparts more relevant information is objectively better than a translation that does not impart said relevant information because that is literally the entire point of a translation.
I have yet to see a single piece of hard, objective evidence in your argument. You're just arguing your own opinion on the limits and functions of subtitles.
Also, Goku can impart just as much relevant information as Ultima given appropriate context. You're arguing nothing more than personal preference.

Please use this valuable online resource for reference: http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/

Thanks for playing.
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Unless you can find a fitting English pun (Battle Field Trip, Naturals Election), you should just left it untranslated

yes, I would prefer if both HR and Underwater just used gokuseifuku
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>>101296323
I fail to see how Godrobe is clumsy unless you're getting autistic over the literal meaning of the word "robe". The words used to make up Kamui mean "God clothes", Godrobe isn't exactly a massive stretch.

Ultima I can see as clumsy, but the average person should be able to connect "Ultima" to "Ultimate" because the average person doesn't know the actual meaning of Ultima.

>>101296434
If you want to check the wiki, you'll find that a lot of spells had their incantations changed to fit the language more in some countries.

For example, stupefy is translated in most languages. Stupéfix in French, Stupor in German, Paralitis in Dutch.

Meaningless words get translated to better flow with language sometimes, that's just a thing that happens. Godrobe and Ultima Uniform carry far more connotation to English speakers than Kamui and Goku Uniform, even if it is defined in the show.
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>>101296654
>I have yet to see a single piece of hard, objective evidence in your argument.

>Wants hard evidence that "ultima" conveys a more accurate image to English-speakers than "goku"
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>>101296431

Are you forgetting the following two lines?

>>in an objective manner
>That's not how objectivity works.

Once again you are lying, because this post (>>101295708) is clearly claiming that the mere act of explaining something "in an objective manner" is "not how objectivity works. He claims that explaining something in an objective manner goes against the very principles of objectivity, and is thus impossible.

If you claim that this is not the argument made, please explain in an objective manner why you think it is something else. If you are about to claim that something else was implied by that short comment, then please explain what it was, and how this was a reading comprehension error on my part and not an error of his comment implying something other than intended due to its brevity.

>>101296654

>How do you know that?

Because "Ultima" conveys more than "Goku" to a native English speaker who doesn't know Japanese. This is simply fact.

Please use this valuable online resource for reference: http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/

Thanks for playing.
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Anyone have the archive link to the episode 16 thread? I need to see the Kiryuuin rape reaction.
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>>101296792
>>Wants hard evidence that "ultima" conveys a more accurate image to English-speakers than "goku"
Right. I'm still waiting. What is it more accurate relative to? You could call whatever the fuck you wanted "Ultima", but that doesn't actually mean it's the ultimate of anything, or that it's even good, above average, etc.

The conveyance of meaning of the words "ultima" and "goku" in English is relative to the context in which they are used.
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>>101296859
>mfw most English speakers would just think of DBZ if they heard Goku, if they thought of anything at all
>"Guys, I'm telling you, people understand Goku better than Ultima!"
>"They define it in the show anyway!"
>"I want 2chan to think I'm cool!"
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>>101296654
>Please use this valuable online resource for reference: http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/
lol just go back to >>>/v/ kid
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>>101296859
>Once again you are lying, because this post (>>101295708) is clearly claiming that the mere act of explaining something "in an objective manner" is "not how objectivity works.
Because the demand made by the poster was to explain objectively how "Goku" is superior to "Ultima" when such an objective analysis is not possible since you can't back it up by actual data.

Keep failing at reading comprehension though. I'm sure you'll pick up on it eventually kiddo.
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>people actually prefer kamooey and goku uniforms
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>>101296873
www.thefoolisharchive.net/search/a/kill_la_kill_episode_16
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>>101296859
>This is simply fact.
Prove it.
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>>101296932
>I'll direct him to /v/! Yeah! That'll teach him.
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Why aren't Senketsu and Junketsu translated?
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>>101296920

>You could call whatever the fuck you wanted "Ultima", but that doesn't actually mean it's the ultimate of anything, or that it's even good, above average, etc.

What the fuck are you getting at? "Ultima" means more to English speakers than "Goku" does. How the fuck can you argue otherwise?

>>101297092

>1+1=2 is a fact.
>PROVE IT

No, fuck you. If you're not a fucking retard you can see why this is true. You don't need a fucking peer-reviewed essay on why this is true. You are asking for PROOF that ENGLISH SPEAKERS will understand an ENGLISH WORD more than a JAPANESE WORD. This is madness.
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Whatever happened to those charts with those 4 guys watching the show?
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>>101297263
>How the fuck can you argue otherwise?
It's like you didn't even read the goddamn posts.
Serious question: How old are you? Your reasoning and logic skills are atrocious.

>>1+1=2 is a fact.
>>PROVE IT
So it's a proven fact that "Ultima" is better than "Goku"? Can I see an actual citation on this finding?
>No, fuck you. If you're not a fucking retard you can see why this is true.
Oh. Right. Because it's not a fact and you can't prove it objectively. I guess that would make it "subjective" and an "opinion" then wouldn't it?
>will understand an ENGLISH WORD more than a JAPANESE WORD. This is madness.
Ultima is as much of an "English word" as Goku is. Which is to say it's not an English word at all you fucking retard.
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>>101297464
>Which is to say it's not an English word at all you fucking retard.

What? An ultima is the final syllable of a word you dumbass. Most people don't know that, clearly, and instead mentally associate it with ultimate because it's literally 2 letters short of ultimate.
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>>101297258
Because, while they do have meaning, they are also their proper names. It can be a tough call to some people, but you can't really have a way of getting both meanings out.
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so I thought this thread was about why CR was delaying their streams.
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how can you call it a Goku Uniform when it's not orange and blue like Goku's
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>>101297154
fuck lol
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>>101297550
>ul·ti·ma
> Origin:
>1860–65; Latin, feminine of ultimus, superlative corresponding to ulterior ulterior
>Latin
Get fucked.
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How does "Air Uniform" even make sense? (Goku = カカロット = Air)
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>>101297642
Checkmate atheists.
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>>101297649
>Origin

Now type "define ultima" into google and tell me what you see. Check the Merriam-Webster dictionary. Ultima is the last syllable of a word.
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>>101297464

I am 26 going on 27. I know that I'm naive.

>So it's a proven fact that "Ultima" is better than "Goku"? Can I see an actual citation on this finding?

No, you can't. However, facts don't need to be proven to be facts. It's a fact that I have a penis. Can I prove it to you? No, I fucking can't, because even if I took a timestamped picture of my dick you could say it was my brother's or something. Does that mean it's my opinion that I have a penis? No, you fucking retard, it's just a fact that I can't prove.

>Oh. Right. Because it's not a fact and you can't prove it objectively. I guess that would make it "subjective" and an "opinion" then wouldn't it?

No, it would make it a fact. Just because proof of something is impossible doesn't magically make it an opinion.

>Ultima is as much of an "English word" as Goku is. Which is to say it's not an English word at all you fucking retard.

Last nail in the coffin. See pic related, you monkey. Serious question: How old are you? Your reasoning and logic skills are atrocious.
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>>101297760
But can you prove that it's any more meaningful as a translation than Goku?
No?
Then get fucked.

And it's still not an "English word". Its etymology would make it a Latin word.
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>>101297843
>facts don't need to be proven to be facts.
Stopped reading there. Holy fuck you're dumb. Please stop posting.
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>>101297943
Nice rebuttal.
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>>101297943

No, you're dumb. Instead of dodging the question, answer it. If you claim that it's necessary for something to be proven for it to be factual, does that mean it's my opinion that I have a penis?
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>>101294008
I prefer honorifics left as is, but seeing it as anything other than Lady Satsuki would just feel wrong now.
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>>101298000
Completely retarded and wholly incorrect posts require no eloquent rebuttal.
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>>101297881
>And it's still not an "English word". Its etymology would make it a Latin word.

What? By that logic, there is no such thing as the English language because most of the etymology lies in other languages.

>But can you prove that it's any more meaningful as a translation than Goku?

What does an English speaker think of when they see Goku? The only thing I can think of is Dragon Ball.

Now what word is literally two letters away from Ultima? Ultimate. Do you really think most native English speakers can't instantly make that connection?
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>>101298064

That's correct, but your implication that my post was completely retarded and wholly incorrect is a lie. Please stop lying.
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>>101298019
If you met me in person and whipped it out then I would agree that you factually have a penis. I don't really have any reason to doubt you though, but regardless, your point isn't analogous in the least.
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>>101298113
No. My implication was that your point, which I even announced the exact point in which I had stopped reading was retarded. How can someone be so dense?
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>>101280031
/r/ the copypasta for this
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>>101298087
>Do you really think most native English speakers can't instantly make that connection?
The point was that Ultima and Goku are equally arbitrary without their context.
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Plain and simple, Godrobe looks and sounds fucking stupid. Add to that the fact that kamui have nothing to do with God (capital g) and nothing to do with robes and you just get a fucktarded translation that's completely useless. It's even more useless when the word is MADE UP and literally defined for the viewer right after it's spoken. And don't like me to the fucking "kamui" wikipedia page; you know as well as I do that those are different fucking things.

Defend it all you want, but we both know it's wrong. You're supposed to be translating the meaning, right? Well the meaning in this case is only being confused because of your literal translation of the individual characters. You fucked up but now it's too late to change it.
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>>101298250
>Godrobe looks and sounds fucking stupid

Nice opnion you have there.
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>>101298248
And I'm saying that even outside of context, a native English speaker is more likely so see ultima and think ultimate because of how close the two words are in spelling, whereas goku likely has no meaning whatsoever.
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>>101298250
But it's a fact that Godrobe sounds better.
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>>101298322
Just as nice as your opinion that Godrobe is better.
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>>101298368
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>>101298367
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>>101298332
That's nice and all but that's not what the argument was originally about.

>>101298367
Stop this shit.
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>>101298402
>it's a fact
You can say "it's a fact" all you want, but that doesn't mean it's actually a fact.
In fact it's really just your opinion.
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>>101298416
>stop spouting facts

No.
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>>101298416
The argument is that there's no reason to change the translation because the words only matter in context, correct?

Well let's say I'm describing this series to a friend who's never seen it. Wouldn't it then be handy to have translations of words that carry connotations for the average speaker of English so that you don't have to spend time defining it yourself while still giving them an idea of things?
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>>101298488
I see no facts being spouted. Only shitty opinions being touted as facts.
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>>101298117

>I don't really have any reason to doubt you though

Exactly. Just as it's impossible for me to prove I have a penis without actually physically meeting you, it's impossible for me to prove that the majority (if not all) English speakers who do not speak Japanese would understand Ultima Uniform better than Goku Uniform.

However, if you doubt either of these things you're still retarded.

>your point isn't analogous in the least.

Lying does not beget you, anon.

>>101298161

>No.

Yes. You posted the following:

>Completely retarded and wholly incorrect posts require no eloquent rebuttal.

in reference to the post I made. To claim that you were not doing so is idiocy.

>>101298248

And that point is wrong, because English speakers would be able to make the connection with Ultima Uniform quite often, and at the very least more than Goku Uniform.

>>101298416

>That's nice and all but that's not what the argument was originally about.

Yes, it fucking was, you dumb shit. The entire argument is that it is a better English translations because English speakers will be able to understand it better and glean more information.
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>>101298322
I didn't say it was a fact, did I? I think you'll find that opinion is pretty common, especially here on 4chan. The FACT is that Godrobe attempts to literally translate the individual characters that make up the word kamui, and in so doing loses more than it gains. For starters the Englisg word 'God' is NOT the same thing as the Japanese word 'kami.' A kamui also has nothing to do with a 'robe' and it looks more like a string bikini than anything else. They insisted on localizing it and came up with what they thought was the best option, but it's still factually not a good translation because it does not preserve the meaning of the original and instead introduces new ideas that are not present. I honestly believe it was done just to make them look special since they're using the same scripts as everyone else.
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>>101298542
Are you honestly implying that just because you say 'Ultima Uniform' your friend would automatically understand what you meant without any sort of context? Because that's a ludicrous argument.
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>>101297843
>>101298113

different faggot
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>>101298561
>Lying does not beget you, anon.
"Ultima" > "Goku" =/= Claim that I have a penis.
It's not analogous.

>in reference to the post I made. To claim that you were not doing so is idiocy.
In reference to the point you made within your post. I even stated exactly where I stopped reading. How are you this dumb?
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>>101298609

>Are you honestly implying that just because you say 'Ultima Uniform' your friend would automatically understand what you meant without any sort of context?

No, but he would surely understand more than he would with "Goku Uniform".

>>101298633

What?
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>>101298609
I'm not saying they'd automatically understand, but they'd get a better idea.

In all honesty, if I told my friends "Goku Uniform" they would instantly think of Dragon Ball and probably be fairly confused.

I'll admit my situation doesn't speak for everybody, but I feel like the word ultima, being so close to ultimate, gives off the impression of a uniform with special powers than the word goku, which at best would draw analogs to the character Goku in my situation.
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>>101298553
It's a fact.

What do people think when they hear godrobe? They think it's something strong because of it's association to god.

What do people think when they hear kamui? They'll be like "What the fuck is kamooie? Some banjo-kazooie sequel?"

>inb4 kamui is associated with god too!
Yeah, but we're translating for English speakers. If you want shit kept in Japanese, learn Japanese.
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>>101298729
>No, but he would surely understand more than he would with "Goku Uniform".
Wow, can I see some evidence for this?
No?
Then get fucked.
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>>101298763
>It's a fact.
Prove it.
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Official website uses the term Goku Uniform. Case closed, faggots.
http://www.killlakill.com/
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Instead of arguing endlessly, why doesn't someone just post a quick set of instructions for how to go about editing the Underwater script yourself after you download it? I get the feeling we're going to be having this thread every week for the rest of the season.
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>>101298561
>it is a better English translations because English speakers will be able to understand it better and glean more information.
Not without it's relative context.

>>101298853
B-b-but UW can do no wrong! Their subs are factually and objectively superior!
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>>101298322
When you use robe to mean clothing in general it brings an old world or archaic feel in English. The setting of the show is crazy modern school. God is also a loaded word in English and carries tons of meaning with it. Depending on your culture this translation could actually muddy the meaning of what is being said.

When translating I would think it would be better to be vague then to insert additional meaning into the text. None of the proposed solutions are ideal. Godrobe would be a passable translation if it didn't conflict with the setting. Ultima is used horribly and if they were going to go in that direction they should have just used Ultimate or supreme or some other thing that still would have sounded awkward.
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>>101298721

If you had said "Sorry, sir, I typed 'Completely retarded and wholly incorrect posts require no eloquent rebuttal' but I meant 'Completely retarded and wholly incorrect POINTS require no eloquent rebuttal', my fault" then we wouldn't be having this discussion. However, because of your inability to admit you made a mistake, you're backpedaling and trying to claim that a "post" is the same thing as a "point".
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>>101298853
Just because it's on the official website doesn't mean it's good.
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>>101283105
Should probably fix that 200/20 years error too.
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>>101298897
Seconding this.
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>>101298853
Pool's Closed, autism
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>>101298783
Well, #1, goku is a guy in dbz.

when we started this argument I thought you knew at least that much about anime.
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>>101298729
>No, but he would surely understand more than he would with "Goku Uniform".
How? Both Goku and Ultima fail to convey any (correct) meaning without context. They are both zero.
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>>101298977
Fine then, if you're going to make such a huge fuss about that then I mean "point". I apologize for calling your "entire post" retarded when I really meant your "point".

Doesn't make you any less of a fucking retard though.

>Facts don't need to be proven
Jesus tap dancing christ I still can't get over how idiotic that *point* was.
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>>101298087
>there is no such thing as the English language
Glad we cleared that one up.
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>>101298980
Just because it's Underwater doesn't mean it's good either.

>>101299023
So you can't provide any actual evidence to support your claim? Okay then. Thanks.
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>>101299057
>ultima
>2 letters away from ultimate
>any native English speaker with two functioning brain cells can make the connection, even if it isn't accurate

>goku
>a character from Dragon Ball
>wears a trademark orange and blue uniform

With no context, Ultima Uniform would imply to me that it's something powerful, while Goku Uniform would imply an orange and blue uniform that's weighted to hold the user back.
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>>101299216
>With no context, Ultima Uniform would imply to me that it's something powerful
Did you read the KLK synopsis too?
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>>101288065
>I mean, Kamui is a portmanteau in Japanese, why isn't the translated term also a portmanteau?
Grobe?
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>>101299216
>any native English speaker with two functioning brain cells can make the connection, even if it isn't accurate
Don't be stupid! Tons of words are close to one another in spelling.
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>>101299281
Nah, it would be Divothing.
As in Divine Clothing.
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>>101299281
>Grobe
>Eotena
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>>101299267
>Did you read the KLK synopsis too

Did you just ignore my post. I said "No context". Before I decided to pick up the series, I compared the various subs and saw the translation difference. I saw Goku Uniform and instantly called DBZ to mind. I then saw Ultima Uniform and thought "So what makes it ultimate?"
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>>101299057
>They are both zero.
Agree, and since they are Goku is better because that's what I hear the characters say.
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>>101299402
That's some nice anecdotal evidence there.
Still doesn't make it factual.
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>>101299177

>shifting the burden of proof
>logical fallacy

nice try
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>>101299456
I'm 100.5% convinced everyone that doesn't have a problem with Ultima plays or played JRPGs and fails to grasp that there are people watching this that haven't every played video games in their lives.
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>>101299402
>I said "No context".
You had context though. You were obviously familiar enough with the show's existence that you were comparing translations.
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>>101298783

>Wow, can I see some evidence for this?

Sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzuLcQOu_B4
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>>101299550
>haven't every played video games
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>One is impulsive and the other is arrogant, cold and has a "might makes right" mindset.
>Protagonist loses the first time, the second ends in a draw.
>Red vs Blue
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>>101299550
>I'm 100.5% convinced
That's nice. Still not factual.

>>101299522
>>shifting the burden of proof
I'm not the one claiming my opinion was factually or objectively based.

Nice try.
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>extract subtitles with ffmpeg or whatever you like
>find and replace the words that trigger your autism
>mux it back in if you want to or just read the sub file directly

It's really not that hard.
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>>101299456
I already said my situation isn't representative of most people, but if my friends did the same thing, I can only assume it would be similar for anybody else who isn't completely initiated when it comes to anime and translations.

It's just a minor translation difference that allows for a simpler explanation of the series out of context through the use of connotation rather than denotation. For the sake of briefness, if you will.

>>101299550
>literally 2 letters away from "ultimate"
>"It's inconceivable! Somebody making a logical leap like that? It's unheard of!"

>>101299577
The only context I had was it being called "edgy". I wasn't watching it when it compared subs, I was looking at screencaps, which don't provide any context to the dialog.
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>>101299613
Born before they were even a thing.
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>>101299595
Sample size of 1.
Not factual.

Also did you make that video yourself? Jesus fuck please kill yourself.
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This much autism
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>>101299638
>never seen a red oni/blue oni in anime before
pls
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>>101299638
To be honest, Satsuki IS getting motivated. Red MC uses a large, oversized sword, Blue Antag uses Katana...
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>>101299677
I don't know what this means...
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>>101299671

>straw man fallacy
you're really pulling out the big guns

let me know when you can prove me wrong
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>>101280376
I think Underwater overlocalizes other things. Fansubbers think that good translation is either catering to people who wouldn't download airing anime in the first place, or taking the CR script and switching up sentence structure (usually fixing some issues, maybe, and creating others).

When translating you need to take your audience into account, and the audience for airing anime is not the kind of people who need specific Japanese terms like youkai changed to demon.
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>>101299840
Because even though you are on the Internet you are completely ignorant about computers?
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>>101299926
>Japanese terms like youkai changed to demon.
I would be for translating it into demon if the setting is western or semi-western.
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>>101299900
>>straw man fallacy
What? There was no straw man fallacy in that post.
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>>101299840
If you're on /a/, you should have at least some idea of how modern encodes work. Everything is softsubbed meaning you can extract subtitle files out of the videos. Then, just open that file in your favourite text editor and use find and replace to get rid of all the words you despise. Finally, you can either mux the subs back into the video or just let it your video player read the file.

Plus, you can do this all with software that respects your freedoms so not even Stallman would mind.
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>>101299938
Largely yes.
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>>101300000
Well that's wrong. Youkai has a very different connotation from demon. And essentially what you get is people who don't know what a youkai is, who think this is about actual demons, and people who know what youkai are, and have to deal with what is essentially a mistranslation.
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>>101300005

you would have trouble spotting a logical fallacy, wouldn't you?
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>>101299736

You asked for evidence that one person would understand more information from "Ultima Uniform" than "Goku Uniform". I provided it. But it doesn't matter, because you don't want evidence, you want to argue. You don't actually want me to go out and conduct a poll with hundreds or thousands of people, because you know what the results would be. And yet you're still here blathering like a retard even though anyone with half a brain could surmise that an English speaker would understand "Ultima" more. Can I prove it? No. Is it true? Obviously, without any doubt whatsoever. Have your technical victory if it makes you feel good, but you know in your heart that if an actual poll would be done the results would be certain.
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>>101300115
No. Actually I wouldn't. I at least wouldn't see them where they don't exist.
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I like ultima uniform, but I fucking hate Godrobe. Godrobe sounds so fucking retarded.
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>>101279956

Kamui > Godrobe
Ultima > Goku

Why can be both with UTW?
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>>101298729
>What?

0/10

obvois troll
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>>101300158
That's not evidence though. You asking your dad his opinion is not in any way factual or convincing.

> You don't actually want me to go out and conduct a poll with hundreds or thousands of people, because you know what the results would be.
I actually think it would be great if you did this. Have at it chum. Problem would be presenting the terms without loading your question.
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>>101300081
This reminds me of a small discussion I had in the FFF IRC channel yesterday. I wanted to know if they had a better script than CR for Hoozuki no Reitetsu, which if you don't know is a dark comedy with a TON of references to Japanese mythology and takes place in Japanese hell/heaven.

CR translates Tougenkyou (Peach Blossom Spring) as Shangri-La which sounds like some generic paradise to somebody who doesn't get the reference. So you see Momotarou picking peaches in Tougenkyou and you have no idea what the fuck is going on. But FFF guy thinks that's fine. Because localizing everything is more important for fansubbers who want to be "real translators" than remaining ACCURATE. Then that retard told me that they might as well transcribe everything in romaji since apparently that's the same thing as not localizing a Japanese mythology reference in a show that is explicitly about Japanese mythology.
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>>101300158
>Can I prove it? No. Is it true? Obviously, without any doubt whatsoever.
True for you perhaps. That doesn't make it a fact, nor does it make it objective.

>Have your technical victory if it makes you feel good
I'm not the fucking idiot claiming his opinions are objective and factual. Learn what the words mean before spouting off like a complete retard.
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>>101300244
They can be if you edit it. Personally I don't shit my britches over it. I prefer the feel of the rest of the translation, so fuck it if two phrases are different when I know what they are anyway.
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>>101300158
>you're still here blathering like a retard

It's too late anon. The hook is too deep.
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>>101300081
How often do you see youkai in a western setting? Almost never.
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>>101300268
>Problem would be presenting the terms without loading your question.
Also getting a fair sample. If it was all young people he very well may be proven correct. I'd want it to prove that they both have no meaning, so I would poll people between 30 - 50.
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>>101300379
If some anime involves Youkai in a Western setting they are still called Youkai. If they were demons they would be called akuma or oni or some shit. I mean, if you have an example of it actually happening it might be easier to understand but I'm mostly referring to fansubbers translating youkai as demon in most releases in Japanese settings.
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>>101300165
>wouldn't see them where they exist
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>>101300515
I agree with you then. That's a stupid practice. I was just pointing out that I feel setting is important when deciding what to localize and how to localize it.
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>>101293202
The first one means if you put one on you fight like Goku, obviously.
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>>101300679
>thread full of acoustic people...
No man. Thread full of people who care. We fucking care like a penis with grenades nestled gently against it.
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>>101300268

>That's not evidence though.

Yes, it is. You asked for evidence that one person, I think that guy said it was a roommate or a friend or something, would understand Ultima better than Goku. This is one person's viewpoint. Does this prove that most or all English speakers would do this too? No, but that's not doable unless you actually took a long-ass time anyway.

>Problem would be presenting the terms without loading your question.

It doesn't even matter. If I wrote out two cards with "Ultima Uniform" and "Goku Uniform" on them and asked "What are your thoughts on the meaning of these two phrases" all Goku would get is "What?" or "DBZ" while Ultima would get occasional understanding, which would certainly be better than the zero comprehension people would recieve from Goku.

It's not even worth doing because the results are so obviously predictable. I'm just baffled why you don't see this. We both agree that if I dropped a ball from my hand in the air, it would fall to the ground, no? Then is there really a point of repeating this experiment while chanting "mahou mahou shoutengai" to the tune of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star before dropping it? It would still drop to the ground. I can't prove it without doing the experiment, but why even bother doing it when I already know the result?

Could you at least explain why on earth you think English speakers would not gain more knowledge from Ultima than Goku?
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>>101300679
>implying my voice isn't digitally generated
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>>101300845
>wall of text
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>>101300596
I agree, it depends very much on the context, and that is also why I don't trust fansubbers, because they don't take context into account a lot of the time, they just find a lazy-ish translation for every Japanese term that CR leaves in (which may or may not be justified).

Hence why I trust CR/Funi more than fansubbers. I started this season trying out fansubs for every show and rolled back to HS for everything except Chu22.
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>>101301065
Video quality > Sub quality
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>>101300900

It's actually four very short paragraphs. I don't even know if you could call them paragraphs. I don't know that it's possible to make a wall of text with 1500 characters, let alone when you have five line breaks. I'm sorry you feel as if you have to be so restricted in word choice and usage in order to post, and I'm even more sorry that you view such a small post as a "wall of text". If I had such a short attention span and poor reading ability that I thought >>101300845 was long, I'd find it hard to get enjoyment out of any text-based medium except Twitter. I pity you more than anything.
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>>101301154
sounds like a dubfag's logic, the voice acting in english sucks except for like 2/3rds of the main characters, therefore the dub is better than the sub.

pure delusions.
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>>101301224
That's one of the biggest false equivalencies I've ever read.
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>>101301154
>>101301224
oh and i forgot to mention that for most shows the fansubbers actually end up going for the CR encode because despite not being great encodes they are better in quality than TS encodes.
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>>101301321
That's not true at all. Most of the shows I am watching are TS encodes.
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>>101301405
some groups rolled back from ts to cr encodes after realizing the ts encodes suck.
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>calling titans eoten
Please stop everyone. Translations do not trump official sources of what they are called.
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>>101301065
>Funi

Please don't trust them. They may have had good translations for Yuu Yuu Hakusho and Dragon Ball, but they are garbage translation-wise nowadays.
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>>101301154
Oh I don't know about that. I have some old Hong Kong bootleg DVD's from the later 90's and the subs make that shit unwatchable. Likewise there is a level of video quality that would make something unwatchable, but a I think when you take it that far the sub is much more important.
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>people who can't speak or read Nip watching KLK is now dependent to the whims of this guy
I still hope he can still release Psycho no asukara on schedule
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>>101301567
Space Dandy subs are way better on Funi's side, I made sure to compare.

But I do doubt Funi more than CR because they are less consistent. And their encodes are particularly shit.
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>>101301516
>Eoten
fucking commie
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>>101301475
From what I'm watching from subgroups (I never use HS):

Buddy Complex, Chu2, Golden Time, Gundam Build Fighters, Hamatora, Log Horizon, Mikakunin de Shinkoukei, Nobunaga the Fool, Sakura Trick, Space Dandy, Strange+ and Strike the Blood are all TS encodes.

Klk, Nagi no Asukara and Samumenco are CR encodes. So no, you're wrong. Most encodes are TS based.
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>>101301684
>now dependent to the whims of this guy
I don't touch his fucking subs, so no, I'm not dependent on him.
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>>101301915

>I don't touch his fucking subs

Why?

Also, is it really necessary to make a statement without a reason like this? All you're doing is prompting a "why" anyway so you might as well just cut out the middleman and explain in the first place.
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>>101301743
Out of your list of shit shows only Space Dandy actually has visuals worth seeing in better detail. And I'd rather have a shitty encode for that than Commie, but considering your taste you probably watch the dub.
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>>101302101
The fact that you left out Gundam Build Fighters really speaks volumes. The animation in it is fucking incredible, and is absolutely worth seeing in good quality as opposed to awful youtube rips. And no, I don't like Dandy's dub.

Anyways, CR's banded, shitty video is absolutely unacceptable if you have eyes.
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>>101302294
gundam unicorn is also neat
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>>101301981
>is it really necessary to make a statement without a reason like this?
I don't have to provide "reason". I don't touch them because I don't want to. I don't need to justify anything. Likewise, I don't care if you gobble them up or not. It means nothing to me.
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HOLY FUCK

There are really people that don't get that "Godrobe" is a portmanteau?
How retarded can you fucking be?
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>>101302330
Well, visually it's fantastic anyway.

I'm not nearly as excited about Unicorn though as I am about Origin or hell, the next episode of Build Fighters. The X Maoh vs Star Build Strike is going to be mindblowing.
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>>101289409
>And Daiz doesn't translate.
No, but he'll offer suggestions, and if the translators don't take them he'll shitpost about how the translation is the worst thing ever and everyone should download the other group doing it which will be better in every way. Look in the archive for threads about the first episode of chuuni S1 for proof.
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>>101302294
That's the only one I didn't watch out of the list, my bad.

And CR's video quality is perfectly fine if you're not autistic. I have a great quality, large monitor, but I watch from a reasonable distance and I pay attention to the show, not the banding in dark areas. It's rarely actually distracting, especially considering there is no show this season that actually has good animation outside of Space Dandy and Wizard Barristers. If you're concerned about your static characters moving their lips in a 2 frame loop having mediocre video quality, then stop watching airing anime and wait for BD rips.
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>>101302393

>I don't touch them because I don't want to.

Why don't you want to?

>I don't need to justify anything.

So if you don't care about talking about your and other people's opinions and why they have them, why even bother posting? I'm curious why you wouldn't touch what I believe to be the superior product in nearly every way.
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>>101302536
>Why don't you want to?
Why do you care?

>why even bother posting?
Gee, maybe because the post said people were dependent on Daiz and I wanted to say that I at least am not?
Fuck that was hard.
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>>101302536
>I'm curious why you wouldn't touch what I believe to be the superior product in nearly every way.
Because not everyone has to like what you like?
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>>101302522
>That's the only one I didn't watch out of the list, my bad.
And you're calling my taste bad? That's hilarious.

>And CR's video quality is perfectly fine
No it fucking isn't I want you people with your horrible, low standards fuck off. http://check2pic.ru/compare/31596/

>wait for BD rips
That's stupid. Why should I wait to watch airing shows when I can download them in great quality right now? Of course, I'll gladly rewatch anything I like enough on the BDs (which is what I'll probably do with Build Fighters).
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>>101302693
Yes, you will surely notice the difference if you are glued to the screen, due to your autism.
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>>101302693
>No it fucking isn't I want you people with your horrible, low standards fuck off.
>Sperging this hard over minor visual differences
>KnK screencap
>Text in Russian
You post gave me stage 12 brain cancer.
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>>101302605

>Why do you care?

Because if I didn't care about learning about other people's opinions and why they have them, I wouldn't post on 4chan because that is literally all this board is every day, opinions. I want to understand why people hold certain viewpoints so I can try to understand their point of view, and become more knowledgeable and reorient my own point of view. I want to become a better, more well-rounded person that has a good grasp of what makes people tick and why. Why would you even post on 4chan if you didn't feel this way?

>>101302683

>Because not everyone has to like what you like?

Of course not, you stupid fucking piece of shit. I'm asking him WHY he thinks that. Learn to read you fucking dumb cunt. Jesus Christ.
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>>101302693
>this amount of autism, let me check the website anyway
>actually notice the difference
holy shit
you're still very autistic, but yes theres a noticible difference.
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>>101302807
>if you are glued to the screen
Uh yes, I am glued to my screen when I watch an episode of anything. Are you seriously suggesting that I shouldn't be paying attention?

>>101302871
That comparison pretty clearly shows how terrible CR video is (especially the second and third images). I suggest you start using your eyes.
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>>101302911

>HUH, MAYBE THESE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT NOTICEABLE QUALITY DIFFERENCES HAVE ACTUALLY NOT BEEN LYING FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS

WOW WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT
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>>101302897
>Why would you even post on 4chan if you didn't feel this way?

Because none of that flowery bullshit you just said was true and you just want to start another shit flinging fight over subs or something retarded like that because you think A is superior to B.

Don't even try to kid anyone with that garbage. You don't come here to "understand other view points and grow as a person". Where the fuck do you think you are?
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>>101302987
calm down, I'm none of those dudes, just lurking around, I usually avoid CR whenever possible tho
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>>101302927
>That comparison pretty clearly shows how terrible CR video is
I don't know which is CR video, nor do I care.
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>>101303075
A and B are both shit. C is where it's at. If you disagree you are a horrible faggot.
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>>101302987
>All caps.
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>>101303121
>I can't read or see
Do you watch anime on some shity laptop screen or something?
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>>101303130
>Calls A and B shit.
>C is where it's at.
>Not liking D god tier patrician-core.
Stay plebby, you plebbing pleb.
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>>101303218
No. I just don't give a shit about minor visual anomalies such as yourself.
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>>101303324
>minor
Please stop having low standards. It hurts.
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>>101303075

>Because none of that flowery bullshit you just said was true

Why are you lying? You make it hard to try to understand your point of view when all you're doing is acting purposefully obtuse and saying I want to shitpost. Why are you actively trying to discourage discussion? Seriously, why? Why?

>you just want to start another shit flinging fight over subs or something retarded like that because you think A is superior to B.

Why the FUCK would I want to do that? Moreover, why the fuck do you think I want to? You're a bizarre person to make these assumptions.

>Don't even try to kid anyone with that garbage. You don't come here to "understand other view points and grow as a person". Where the fuck do you think you are?

Currently, in a thread inhabited with retards who think that every question is a shitpost and that you can't discuss anything because justifying opinions is pointless, so you should just state your opinion with no reasoning and leave. I don't even care anymore, because you've even more thoroughly solidified my belief that people who don't use Underwater are retards. If they can't understand why someone might want to have an actual discussion, why would they be able to appreciate good subs?

Seriously, fuck you. All I wanted was to understand why people would use HS, but because your stance is ANTI-DISCUSSION you've made that impossible. Fuck you, cunt.
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>>101303409
Wow. Sorry if my "low standards" hurt you.
It's not really my problem though.
Maybe you should try being less bothered by what other people do. It's not like you can control it or anything.
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>>101303451
>That comparison pretty clearly shows how terrible CR video is
Way to prove my point faggot.
Now get the fuck out with your hugbox flower power bullshit.
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>>101302469
Sorry, what I should have added an "of" at the end of that first question.
In an attempt to explain what I'm talking about
this post:
>>101294419
epitomizes it.
I would normally just think of it as trolling look past it but there's several other posts in the thread at least implying the same kind of thing and there's NOT ONE SINGLE FUCKING POST CORRECTING THEM.
This leads me to believe that everybody in this thread is retarded.
So I'm going to go ahead and post it.

"Godrobe" is the combination of "god" and "wardrobe".
You fucking idiots.
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>>101303482
Normally, I don't give a fuck what other people do, but blind people downloading HS is bad and has long-term repercussions. It lowers the diversity of subgroups as well as taking a big shit on current anime video standards. That's not good and nobody should encourage it.
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>>101303451
>you've even more thoroughly solidified my belief that people who don't use Underwater are retards.
>Seriously, fuck you. All I wanted was to understand why people would use HS, but because your stance is ANTI-DISCUSSION you've made that impossible. Fuck you, cunt.
Way to prove my point faggot.
Now get the fuck out with your hugbox flower power bullshit.
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>>101303451
>All I wanted was to understand why people would use HS
They use HS because they don't give a shit about quality. They're the reason why CR can get away with atrocious video quality.
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>>101303645
>They're the reason why CR can get away with atrocious video quality.
No, actually that would be people who actually pay for CR.
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Thanks, now I can enjoy more this anime
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>"Godrobe" is the combination of "god" and "wardrobe".
>You fucking idiots.
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>>101303640

What the FUCK are you even talking about?

If you had said "why do you like Underwater"? I would have said "I like Underwater because of x reasons." I won't even bother going into it now because it's obvious you don't care, but I tried to understand why you would use HS, but you ACTIVELY REFUSED to even SLIGHTLY justify your stance. The only conclusion I can draw from this is that Underwater downloaders are intelligent people who will discuss their preferences while HorribleSubs downloaders are belligerent idiots who deny any attempt at discussion, likely because they realize that their product is inferior in every way and can't defend their sub choice.

This was exactly what I thought going into this thread, because all of this has happened a million times before. "Why do you use HS?" "lol why do you care autist." I tried to understand you people's viewpoint, but you just won't cooperate.

Every attempt I've made to try to understand HS-ites has failed miserably because every time you people NEVER EVER EVER EVER justify a SINGLE ONE OF YOUR GODDAMNED OPINIONS, LIKE FUCK

>>101303645

But why wouldn't any human being care about quality? I literally cannot imagine a human being who does not care if something is good or not. If this were an anime, I'd be saying it's shit because no character could actually act as unrealistic as this in real life, and yet it's happening before my very eyes. I don't get it.
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>>101303999
>I won't even bother going into it now because it's obvious you don't care
You're right. I don't.

>I tried to understand why you would use HS
No. It's only more apparent now, after your little temper tantrum that you just wanted to proselytize the glories of UW or some shit, because you obviously "literally cannot imagine a human being who does not care if something is good or not". You're just upset that I saw through your honeyed words so quickly and saw your posturing for what it really was; a farce.

>you ACTIVELY REFUSED to even SLIGHTLY justify your stance.
I don't have to justify my stance. You don't have to justify yours either. That's because it's an opinion.

>The only conclusion I can draw from this is that Underwater downloaders are intelligent people who will discuss their preferences while HorribleSubs downloaders are belligerent idiots who deny any attempt at discussion, likely because they realize that their product is inferior in every way and can't defend their sub choice.
Confirmation bias. Also way to keep proving my point that you're a hypocrite.

>I tried to understand you people's viewpoint, but you just won't cooperate.
This is just too much. Really.

>you people NEVER EVER EVER EVER justify a SINGLE ONE OF YOUR GODDAMNED OPINIONS
God, you're such a piece of shit. Grow up kiddo.
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>>101304373

>I don't have to justify my stance. You don't have to justify yours either. That's because it's an opinion.

BUT IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYONE'S OPINION WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU POSTING ON 4CHAN

JESUS CHRIST
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>>101303999
oh jesus guys
is it worth it to get this worked up at this hour
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>>101304457
Because people don't come here for other people's opinions. If you've been here for even a fraction the amount of time that I have you'd understand this by now. Jesus...
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>>101304493
I'm not really worked up at all anon, don't worry. I just find it funny pointing out someone's hypocritical bullshit for what it is.
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>>101304373

>God, you're such a piece of shit. Grow up kiddo.

HOW AM I A PIECE OF SHIT WHEN YOU ARE THE ONE ACTIVELY DISCOURAGING AND REFUSING DISCUSSION OF THE TOPIC

>>101304524

ALL HAIL OLDFAG :^)))DDDDD I DON'T CARE ANYMORE, YOU FUCKING HORRIBLESUBS CUNTS MAKE ME SO FUCKING ANGRY, YOU

NEVER

JUSTIFY

FUCKING

ANYTHING

ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS MAKE A FUCKING ATTEMPT TO CONVERSE< TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT OF VIEW

LIKE EXTENDING A HELPING HAND TOWARDS THE SUBHUMANS IN SOUTH AFRICA, HUH, MAYBE APARTHEID IS BAD, LET'S TRY ENDING IT, MAYBE THEY ARE HUMANS LIKE US

BUT NO, THEN THE NIGGERS RUIN EVERYTHING

YOU ARE THE NIGGERS
YOU ARE THE NIGGERS
YOU ARE THE NIGGERS
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>>101304698
>You will never be this assdisintegrated
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>>101304698
>HOW AM I A PIECE OF SHIT WHEN YOU ARE THE ONE ACTIVELY DISCOURAGING AND REFUSING DISCUSSION OF THE TOPIC
Because you don't want to actually discuss, you just want to wave your dick around claiming that UW is superior.

>YOU FUCKING HORRIBLESUBS CUNTS MAKE ME SO FUCKING ANGRY, YOU NEVER JUSTIFY FUCKING ANYTHING
>ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS MAKE A FUCKING ATTEMPT TO CONVERSE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT OF VIEW
>LIKE EXTENDING A HELPING HAND TOWARDS THE SUBHUMANS IN SOUTH AFRICA
Holy fuck. So mad. No. You obviously didn't want to "understand my point of view", as apparent by your post. You just want to ask for my opinions so you can retort with your opinions that are equally meaningless so you can inflate your own ego for the sense of trying to understand "Subhumans in South Africa" and trying to enlighten them.

Life tip: Opinions are like assholes; everyone's has one. So keep them to yourself, because nobody else wants to see your asshole.
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>>101304698
and this is why anon has no friends
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>>101304698
A public ban would be hilarious right about now.
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>>101304979
>Opinions are like assholes; everyone's has one. So keep them to yourself, because nobody else wants to see your asshole.
That's dumb. People should freely express their opinions and discontent for any healthy society to function coherently.
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>>101305115
>4chan
>healthy society
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>>101305115
That's fine and all, as long as you are just shoving your asshole in random people's faces.
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>>101305115
People very rarely, if ever, discuss opinions for the sake of learning or understanding. They discuss opinions to further entrench their own, as brilliantly displayed in this thread.
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>>101305177
*aren't
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>>101304979

>Because you don't want to actually discuss

STOP LYING

>Opinions are like assholes; everyone's has one

WOW SO ORIGINAL YOU SHOWED ME, HERE'S SOMETHING I CAME UP WITH:

DON'T ASSUME -

IT MAKES AN ASS OUT OF U AND ME

GEDDIT XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

AND IF YOU ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT OPINIONS ARE WORTHLESS, YOU NEVER WOULD HAVE POSTED YOUR OPINION IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU HYPOCRITICAL PIECE OF SHIT

>>101305079

I have friends, but if I ask them "What subs are you using for KLK" one will say "Underwater, they're better" and the other will say "Horriblesubs, I know Underwater's better but I like the show too much to wait the extra hours."

They are people who aren't fucking insane like this person and post on a fucking DISCUSSION BOARD while thinking DISCUSSION IS WORTHLESS

>>101305109

Yeah sure, a public ban for shitting up a dead thread on page 10. Great.



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