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Has it ever been revealed who Goku's mom was?
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your mom
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>>101263552
Does that mean OP is part Saiyan?
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Why is /a/ so obsessed with moeshit?

Why does /a/ hate DBZ?
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>>101263602
Yes.
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>>101263616
>WAHH my thread isn't getting replies!!
>WAHH I hate /a/ and they only like moeshit!!!
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Could be Bardock's teammate?
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Is Raditz SSJ3?
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>>101263666
Yeah there was a female in Bardock's squad.

Could be her.
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>>101263666
>>101263695

didn't she die before goku was born?
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Moeshitter detected.

Go back to your "waifu" thread you freak.
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>>101263616
>Why does /a/ hate DBZ?
Because the manga is better.
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>>101263516

wasn't goku a test tube baby?
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Could Goku beat Accelerator?
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>>101263695

I like to imagine an entire culture of rape. You see someone you fancy? You fight and beat the shit out of each other until one can't move, then the victor mounts/rides them until climax.

Or a harem like scenario, where the strongest saiyans have many waifus and spread their genes around until someone overthrows them and takes over.

Or what if they're all super shy and stuff when it comes to that sort of thing? Think of it, badass space warriors all acting tsuntsun to each other and it takes them at least fifty manga chapters before they hold hands grumpily and have a date eradicating planets.

>i....i...it's not like that ki beam was impressive or anything, baka.
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>>101263776
He was sent to Earth as a baby in a spacepod.

Saiyans killed life on planets and then sold the planets for profit, Earth was considered so weak that a baby could do it.

Goku suffered a head injury as a child, so he forgot his mission/instinct and instead became a lovable carefree guy.

Also I think the Saiyans did this planet-destroying shit under Frieza's rule, since he basically enslaved the only few Saiyan survivors left after destroying their homeworld.
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>>101263727
Hard to say. We first see Goku roughly at the same time Bardock's team gets slaughtered elsewhere.
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>>101263834
>I like to imagine an entire culture of rape.

Please keep your interests in this area to yourself, anon.
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Martial artists don't have moms, they only have dads.

This is the rank

- Master
- School
- Father

Filthy women don't have a place on the pugilistic world and Dragon Ball was based on old martial arts movies
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>>101263881

So, Goku came from an egg?
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>>101263870

Hand holding and dere ki beam shooting are also my interests anon.
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>>101263834
They are basically space Spartans.
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>>101263806
He could use instant transmission to teleport inside of his body exploding him from the inside out
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Daily reminder that Vegeta fucked Bulma.
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>>101263907

Nothing wrong with that.
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>>101263907

Was it a saiyan egg or just an egg which spawned a saiyan?
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>>101263978

Daily reminder Yamcha fucked her first.
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>>101263907
The mother doesn't deserve to be mentioned unless the hero has a trauma related to her and Goku left planet Vegeta like a couple of days after he born
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Saiyans are aliens..

So why do they look so much like humans?

The only alien thing about them is their hair.
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>>101263516
in DBM he has one
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>>101263978
More weirded out seeing Bulma in Dragon Ball, then seeing her wrinkled face in DBZ...
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>>101264021
Daily reminder that for some reason Gohan is half-Saiyan although he looks exactly like Yamcha.
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>>101264021
His only achievement in life.
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>>101263806

You see, acelerator could be easily beaten by goku, he may have powers but cant keep up with goku speed, i mean, even strongest humans cant see goku fighting with kid buu
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>>101264021
Daily reminder that Vegeta and Bulma had a son named Trunks and eventually a daughter aswell.
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>>101264058
Strength doesn't affect how well you can percieve a moving object.
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>>101264042

Daily reminder that if Goku was to grow his hair out it would look like Yamcha/Raditz's

>>101264043

He also became a fat paid baseball player, so, that's something I guess.
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Could Goku beat Saber?
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>>101264098
Sure.
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>>101264043
>Only achievement in life
Don't forget that he was a star baseball player
He was probably swimming in pussy after they broke up
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>>101264109
Could you stop being a faggot?
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>>101264094

Strength has nothing to do with how ridiculously fast -any- character in DBZ moves.
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>>101264125

Sorry, this is the only way I know how to contribute to Shounen threads.

Could Goku beat Onepunch Man?
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>>101264098
Daily reminder that saiyan hair doesn't grow
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>>101264030
yup. no other interesting traits at all, no sir.
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>>101264121
Why did Yamcha get such shitty treatment in DBZ? He was literally an irrelevant character. Atleast Tien and Krillin had their moments.

Yamcha was a boss in DB though.
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>>101263516
It's crocodile.
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Please use a non-horrifying picture of Pan.
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>>101264094

I wanted to say that it was the strongest fighters who have greater perception, if Accelerator can not keep up with the speed of Goku, he would take a punch without even seeing him, otherwise, would be an amazing fight
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>>101264182

Daily reminder that you're wrong.

Case in point: gohan in time chamber, trunks in time chamber.

Just because veggie and gokes like to keep their hair nice and trim doesn't mean they couldn't grow it out if they wanted.
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lol Raditz died a virgin
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>>101264184
I'm talking about their normal form.

They live on a distant alien planet yet look EXACTLY like humans.

Piccolo/Dodoria/Zarbon and Frieza's henchmen all look genuinely alien, but the Saiyans somehow look like humans, with spikey hair.
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>>101264238
>Case in point: gohan in time chamber, trunks in time chamber.
Those are half-Saiyans.
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>>101264225
Accelerator doesn't have to see an object to redirect it.
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>>101264254
yup. exactly like humans
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>>101264260

So Raditz was just magically born with a rockstar mane? His mom must have been cleaning that shit out of her vag for months.
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>>101264238
Halfbreed, retard.
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>>101263870
or what youre going to call your mother?

deal with it walking sex toy
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>>101264260
Vegeta grew a mustache and had to shave in GT.

So if you can grow a mustache/beard, pretty sure your hair grows aswell.
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>>101263806
Accelerator needs oxygen. Destroy the planet he's currently inhabiting.
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>>101264293
i guess so. from memory in the bardock special baby goku had his full hair
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>>101264330
>in GT
You're not helping yourself.
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>>101264274

Does he have enough reaction power to counter goku speed?
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>>101264238
>>101264293
>>101264330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiwnoDnOyWU
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>>101264359
Yeah, no question about it.
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>>101264359
Accelerators reflection is always passively active, it doesn't matter how fast it's going or how much power is involved.
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>hurr could Goku beat X

Goku isn't even the strongest character

>Movies, DB, DBZ, DBGT
1. Whis
2. SSJ4 Gogeta
3. Bills
4. SSG Goku
5. Omega Shenron
6. Majuub
7. SSJ Gogeta
8. Super Vegito
9. SSJ4 Goku
10. SSJ4 Vegeta

>Just DB and DBZ
1. Super Vegito
2. Mystic Gohan
3. Kid Buu
4. SSJ3 Goku
5. SSJ3 Gotenks
6. Super Buu
7. Majin Vegeta
8. SSJ2 Goku
9. SSJ2 Teen Gohan
10. Super Perfect Cell OR Dabura
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>>101264409
You could've just narrowed it down to "he's canonically the third strongest".
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>>101264409
Except Goku is stronger than Bills
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>>101264409
>Mystic Gohan
Did he ever do shit in the series?
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>>101264445

Except he isn't.
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>>101264452
beat the shit out of super buu then got absorbed then died i think. i cant remember but i assume he died otherwise he would have helped kill kid buu
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>>101264452

Go to look badass for a few minutes.

>>101264368

Yeah no, goku and vegeta's hair clearly get bigger the older they get.
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>>101264409
fuck you nigga, Ginyu Force is the strongest

RECOOME
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>>101264409
i think vegito would be stronger than gogeta, especially if he transformed above ss (i assume he could have). potara is a much stronger fusion.
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>>101264507
>goku and vegeta's hair clearly get bigger the older they get.
It grows in proportion to their bodies.
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>>101264478
Everyone died after Kid Buu destroyed Earth but magical bara boys Goku and Vegeta "survived" (and Hercule) to beat the shit out of him.
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>>101264409
Now do a list that doesn't include Gods and fusions.
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>>101264403

He may even have AIM but he still needs to control the direction of the vector and when to use their ability, even if his ability is always active
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Reminder that Kibitoshin was probably more powerful than Gotenks.
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>>101264534

So you're admitting it grows as they aged into adulthood? Thanks, all I wanted to hear.
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>>101264409
>SSJ4 Gogeta stronger than Bills, weaker than Whis
>Comparing characters who have never so much as appeared togetheni the same continuity
From whose ass did you pull out this information?
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>>101264579
Though that does mean Raditz was probably born with hair reaching his legs.
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Cell/Android saga > Frieza/Namek saga > Saiyan saga > Buu saga > DB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GT
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Does that mean Nappa was born with a mustache?
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>>101264726
I'd assume it only applies to head hair, otherwise it'd also mean they're born with thick pubes and armpit bushes.
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>>101264403
It matters. His abilities have limits which Goku are far above.
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>>101264726
I don't think so, but how did Nappa lost his hair?
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>>101264690
DB > Android > Cell > Namek > Saiyan > Frieza > Buu >>>>>>>>>>>> GT
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>>101264690
>DB last
Confirmed for never watching it.
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>>101264409
>Mister Satan not first
Shit list, 0/10
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>>101264817
Bitches dig a shaved head. Nappa just knows how it works
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>>101264861
I only watched it to see the backgrounds of Yamcha/Tien/Krillin/Roshi.

DB was kiddy shit for kids
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>>101264906
DB was the only good series of the franchise since it didn't take itself seriously and wasn't dependent on powerlevels.
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>people talking about GT as if it actually happened
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>>101264510
Easily one of the best parts of the show
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>>101264940

>implying it didn't

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it doesn't exist, friend.
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>>101264936
>wasn't dependent on powerlevels
Neither was DBZ.

"Power levels" and "Scouters" were only a thing during the first season.

It wasn't a universal law or anything, it was just a term coined by Frieza's army to detect the amount of Ki energy someone has.

After Frieza's death, scouters became irrelevant and everyone could sense Ki naturally.

DBZ is too deep for you.
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>>101263907
in the novel Journey to the West, one of the Four Classics of chinese literature, the Character Sun Wukong (aka Sun Goku in Japanese) is a monkey who is hatched from a stone egg
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Why does Android #16 and Recoome look so alike?

Is there a connection?
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>>101264965
I think that poster meant than GT is nothing more than fanfiction, whihc it is.
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>>101264965
>I never read the manga lel
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>you will never rape bulma while vegeta is sleeping in the next room
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>>101265066

What I said still stands.
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>>101265006
The saiyan's round space ships are kinda like eggs.
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>>101265110
GT isn't really canon, Toriyama didn't approved.
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>>101264893
Only if you are over 40 or a nigger
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>>101265049
Toriyama running out of ideas?
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so who's stronger krillin or tien
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>>101265161

He didn't approve and yet they used every single one of his designs? It got his stamp of approval, he jsut didn't like the finished project apparently. Fuck him, the shit is canon whether you, he, or Japan likes it or not.
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>>101264784
>His abilities have limits which Goku are far above.
Nope.
>>101264556
His autoreflection doesn't need him to even think to use it. That was even used against him in the fight against Kihara.
Hell, his autoreflection works while he's sleeping.
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Who's stronger? TADA BANRI or Goku?
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>>101265263
He approves DBO and Battle of Gods as canon, both of which were released after GT and contradict with it. Suck a dick.
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>>101265240
Tien, I don't think he ever stopped training. But is he really human with the third eye and all?
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>>101265240
Tien.
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>>101265240
Uub is the strongest human
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>>101264409
>3. Kid Buu
Lol nope.
Super Buu was stronger than Kid Buu.
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>>101265294

Look here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvX9wT6ChRE

Even if he won, he was beatdown by Kihara. If it were Goku, he would pass out on the first punch
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>>101265471
Do you know HOW Kihara managed to punch him?
Unless Goku knew how to bypass the reflection, he'd lose his arm.
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>>101265423
No.

Super Buu, although he absorbed Gotenks, Gohan and Piccolo, also had Majin Buu inside him, which was kind of good-hearted so it limited his power a bit.

Super Buu was 50% evil and 50% good, Majin Buu was 100% good and 0% evil, Kid Buu is 100% evil and 0% good.

Kid Buu is literally an insane psychopath with no morals or values, he kills anything and everyone. He blows up the planet, Super Buu didn't do that.

The reason he warned Vegeta not to free Majin Buu was because he knew he would turn insane.
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>>101265509
Being evil doesn't make him stronger.
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>>101265509
>Kid Buu is literally an insane psychopath with no morals or values, he kills anything and everyone. He blows up the planet, Super Buu didn't do that.

Even then, Super Buu is STRONGER than Kid Buu. Being Evil or insane doesn't change that.
Now, if you were to ask
>Who's the most DANGEROUS?
Then Kid Buu would win.
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>>101265626
Evil = no morals or mercy = do whatever you want = blow up planet

If Super Buu was stronger he would of done that.
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>>101265699
By that point in the story even Krillin could blow up the planet.
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>>101265636
You don't understand the concept of Buu.

Kid Buu is his original form, 100% evil and made to slaughter and murder.

Fat Buu / Majin Buu is the opposite, it's what you get when Buu eats too much candy/chocolate and absorbs good people.

Tall Buu / Super Buu is fifty fifty. Yes he's incredibly strong but he will never show his full power due to emotion limitations of the people he absorbed.

Kid Buu is an unrestrained monster.
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>>101265803
Even then, Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu.
He has more strength, durability and ki.
Is it that hard to understand?
In a FIGHT Super Buu would defeat Kid Buu.
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>>101265865
>In a FIGHT Super Buu would defeat Kid Buu.

No because Super's is limited by the personalities/emotions of the people he absorbed. He will never be able to fully utilize 100% of his power.

Kid Buu can go all out.
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>>101265636
Technically stronger sure but he's also not going to use his full power due to not being pure evil.
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>>101265507

If Accelerator's power goes to infinity, not even Superman could win against it, The only way to kill him is destroying earth. Otherwise, Goku has a godly physical preparation, he wont get a lot of damage by Vector control, and with full strenght he could break Accelerator Vector power, i mean, SSJ3 Goku can destroy planets with his strenght. By the look of this, i don't think we'd have a winner, Goku does not hurt Accelerator, Accelerator does not hurt goku
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>>101265970
Example: Super Buu hesitated to kill Mr. Satan due to emotions.

Kid Buu would of killed Mr. Satan without a single doubt.

Super Buu sat on Kami's Lookout waiting for a challenger.

Kid Buu would of destroyed the entire Lookout and killed everyone in an instant.
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>>101266070
So Vegeta is stronger than Goku because he would kill without remorse?
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>>101266070
>would of
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>>101266120
Depends what saga you're talking about.

First season, Vegeta was clearly stronger than Goku. He transformed into an ape and almost crushed Goku.

He lost because he got ganged by Krillin, Gohan and Yajirobe< who cut off his tail
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Super buu is definitely stronger than kid buu. The good kai that makes up fat buu could actually fight toe to toe with kid buu but got absorbed by surprise. Losing gohan,piccolo, trunks, goten etc makes him a ton weaker in raw power. kid buu is ofc more dangerous because he just blows up planets and shit.
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>>101266038
>Accelerator does not hurt Goku

Can Goku hurt himself?
If yes, then, yes, Accelerator hurt Goku.

Let's say Goku tries to punch Accelerator in the face.
1 Goku punch = 1G
If Goku were punching anything else, his fist would receive the same amount of force, but on the opposite direction.

But Accelerator reflects anything back to it's source. So his fist would be hit by 1G from the 3rd law of motion, and 1G by Accelerator's reflection. Goku's fist would be hit by a 2G force.
I think that'd be enough to break his arm.
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>>101263907
Maybe he grew up on a tree.
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>>101264121
So you are saying Toriyama is a hack that is unable to create different character types?

Wow, he is like the one and only manga artist that has this problem. Everybody else seem to have original designs.
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>>101264403
But can Accelerator beat God?
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>>101263907
Didn't we all?
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>>101266038
>not using instant transmission to move that faggot into Sol
>not dropping him like the son of god

why aren't you accelerator faggots even trying?
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>>101266634

No, I'm pretty sure Goku can take a punch with twice its strength without breaking his arm, he may hurt his hand, but would not be enough to disable it, Goku has a sense of struggle, he practiced martial arts his whole life, would not use the same attack twice, would notice the power of the Accelerator and would not use normal moves against him again. But as I do not know the Accelerator's power limit, would be a fight without winners.
For now, as you know, the power of the Saiyan is infinite, you just need train, and it is canonical, Vegeta said that in Frieza saga, then, eventually Goku could be stronger than Bills, even Superman and thats why Sayans are OP
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>>101267094

>Implying he could touch Accelerator

welp Goku is FTL anyway
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>>101265294
The source of Accells power is literally nothing compared to the energy Goku puts out.
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Let's clear up son misconceptions.

Saiyan hair does grow, but only until a certain point that depends on the Saiyan. The same way we have a limit to how long we can grow our hair, but Saiyan's is usually much shorter.

In a Goku vs Accelerator fight:
-Instant Transmission inside Accelerator doesn't work because teleportation uses a vector of position.
-Goku can't use IT on Accelerator to teleport him into space because he can't touch him
-It doesn't matter how strong or fast Goku is, he can't get past autoreflection.
-Ki attacks are alien to Accelerator, so they may or may not work the first time.
-Of course, Goku can always blow up the planet.
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>>101264409
Super Vegito is stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta.
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>>101263834
definitely not a culture of rape
but seeing as they ARE monkeys
maybe they have a bonobo-like society
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>>101266070
>>101266248
You're an idiot.

Is a 12-year-old serial killer psychopath stronger than the MMA champion (or some equivalent)? No, fuck you.

Could the aforementioned psychopath kill the MMA champion? Most probably.

Strength doesn't mean everything... except when you're comparing strength, and you people were.
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>>101268349
Except Accell literally can't reflect the sheer magnitude of what Goku can do. Lets not forget his telepathy, God power and that dragonball ki doesn't run on the same hilariously inaccurate interpretation of Physics that Raildex does.
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>>101268633
>can't reflect the sheer magnitude
The only times Accelerator struggles to reflect stuff is when he's hit by things he doesn't understand, because then he has to calculate manually.

That's why I said Ki may probably work the first time, maybe the first few times even.

> telepathy
Can he do anything other than talking?

>God power
What?

>that dragonball ki doesn't run on the same hilariously inaccurate interpretation of Physics that Raildex does.
I already said Ki is alien to Accelerator, why are you bringing it up again?

Also
>ki
>anything to do with physics
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>>101268832
Acells power has limits that top out around manipulating planets. Thats not even a warmup for Goku.

Goku has God power that literally follows no rules.

Normal Ki follows some physics. Its affected by gravity.

Goku can read minds and learn weak points in strategies. You're forgetting hes literally a perfect fighter.
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Anyone have that "grappler" type-moon dbz crossover?
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>>101268832

>maybe the first few times even.

Well, we're talking DBZ here, I doubt there would be an Accelerator left after the first time if it goes through.
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>>101269304
I haven't stated otherwise.

>Goku can read minds and learn weak points in strategies.
I don't remember this, but it doesn't matter. Whatever Accelerator tries to do or not do it won't work on Goku, aside from Autoreflection. He's basically a fucking Wobbufett.

>Normal Ki follows some physics. Its affected by gravity.
I don't remember this either, but it's also irrelevant since I already said Ki would be alien to Accelerator anyways.

>Goku has God power that literally follows no rules.
Like I said: What?

Are you talking about the new movie? I haven't watched that.
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>>101264409
Whis is apparently super saiyan 15 according to Toriyama. By starting a new canon before GT but still considering GT canon Akira has basically fucked up the entire franchise. As bad as GT was it at least made sense chronologically.
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>>101269498
New movie is canon. God Ki is supreme bullshit. Goku could wreck most anime characters at this point.
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>>101269765
So if it's canon then how is GT relevant? Does everyone just pretend like it didn't happen as usual?
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>>101269837
It's completely not canon.
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>>101266038
>The only way to kill him is destroying earth

You're forgetting that the dragonballs exist and that Goku has access to a spaceship. All he'd need to do was find the dragonballs, IT Dende to new Namek, blow up the earth, then wish the planet back, and wish everybody who isn't evil back to life.
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>>101270128
GT is not canon anymore?
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>>101269765
I didn't say it wasn't canon, I said I hadn't watched it.
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>>101270208
Never was.
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>>101270208
Never was.
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>>101270208
Never wash.
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>>101270208
.saw reveN
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>>101270208
Body wash.
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sasuga, /a/

but, yeah, GT was never canon, people had just taken some Toriyama quotes out of context to say GT is canon. It never was and the latest DBZ movie completely killed any argument that could possibly be made for GT to be canon.
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>>101268450
Bonobos are an exception.
Rape is pretty common among animals.
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>>101270414
Kind of shitty that they marketed the hell of GT for over 15 years and then decide it was all bullshit.
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>>101264254
well remember sayains weren't created until DBZ came along, or when the manga went to after the last tournament.
In all of the planets in the universe I would think there would be Human like aliens with minor differences, just as much as aliens with huge differences.
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>>101263851
>Saiyans killed life on planets
Not all life, they just wiped out native civilizations.
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>>101270208
GT was created by animation studio db was produced in. It was a way to milk the franchise even more. And for the ADD crowd adding more transformations made it cooler.
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>>101270208

wever nas
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>>101270579
besides when freiza was around he fueled their want for destruction.
Freiza is quite the enabler
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>>101264238
It was specifically mentioned by Vegeta(after leaving the time chamber) that pure-blooded Saiyans' hair grows to a certain length and stays the same for the rest of their life.
Gohan and Trunks were half human, so their hair grew normally.
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>>101270740
He did fuel there want he just gave them the means to carry out what they are best at which is fighting. Even Goku puts the earth in danger when drags out fights because he enjoys them so much. They are essentially a self destructive race.
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>>101270152

Wouldn't it be easier to just like, wish his esper powers away? It wouln't take more than ten minutes to get the dragonballs.
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>>101270836
but in the New Movie, it's stated their were good sayains, they were just tsunadere.
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>>101270868
instant movement doesn't work against Accelerator?
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>>101270868
I guess, but the dragonballs have these weird limitations that are never really explained outside of "I can't do it if it's beyond the power of my master." Which makes no sense because as far as I could tell, Kami could never just bring people back to life. The dragon also couldn't kill the Saiyans.
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you forgot Turless
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>>101270836
Goku not only dragged out fights, but allowed Piccolo and Vegeta to escape despite them being determined to enslave/destroy humanity back then.
Basically, Goku protects everyone, but if he gets an opportunity to have an interesting fight, the Earth can go fuck itself.
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>>101271027
he could bring people back, just not kill them, if they have the power to kill kami. Kami (after piccilo) was a healing type so it's in his spectrum to bring people back, so my idea is that if the wish that people are using against another person posses the strength to fight the wish it cannot work, even goku was able to avoid being brought back to earth by Parunga.
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>>101263943
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>>101271036
well that's not all true, reminder that when homies are in trouble or been killed Goku can go ape shit, but you are right when there are times when he puts the planet up for wager when he fights
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>>101264121
I forgot. How did Yamcha got that CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT scar?

I think it was in the middle of training with Tien when waiting for Piccolo Jr´s return.
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>>101271372
Bulma caught him cheating
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Has there ever been a successful Japanese franchise since that was not influenced by Dragon Ball in some manner?
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>>101271536
Gundam
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>>101263806
The better question is, Can Goku beat a Magic God? Accelerator is small time now
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>>101271648
I don't know he couldn't beat a god of destruction
I would say no,
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>>101271536
Madoka.
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>>101271536
Eva.
Pretty much everything tokusatsu ever.
A whole bunch of video game franchises.
Loads, really.
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>>101270496
I don't think Toriyama had much of a say in GT.
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>>101270496
>thought for 15 years that GT was canon
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>>101272260
God, has it really been that long?
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>>101271536
JoJo.
There was a couple of minor things in the 90s that can be considered references to Dragon Ball, but there wasn't any real influence. Fights in JoJo are pretty much the opposite of DBZ ones.
The first 2-3 parts were influenced by Hokuto no Ken, then Araki went his own way, mostly influenced by Western culture.
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>>101264033
>that shitty art
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>>101264188
>Yamcha was a boss in DB though.

You've never read dragonball have you?
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>>101267094

Good luck touching Accel to perform instant transmission faggot
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>>101264906
>DB was kiddy shit for kids

>implying DBZ is somehow more mature

You're a fucking retard, it's all the same shit.
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>>101264998
>"Power levels" and "Scouters" were only a thing during the first season.

Top lel, the entire android arc was nothing but Powerlevels.
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>>101265240
Krillin

>>101265330
that was a dub line, Krillin never stops training.
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>>101272487
I was thinking of it too. DB and JoJo are probably the most influential things on Japanese media to come out when most of us were already alive.

Do you happen to have the other Araki art-style evolution image? Assuming there are only two.
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>>101265330
No, he's an alien too.
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>>101272921
This one?
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>>101266248
>He transformed into an ape and almost crushed Goku.

That wasn't a feat of strength.

But yes, Vegeta was stronger than Goku if you don't consider the Kaioken technique being Goku's actual strength
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>>101273170
It looks like it, but I remember it was larger.

I might be imagining things, though.
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>>101268633
>dragonball ki doesn't run on the same hilariously inaccurate interpretation of Physics

Are you fucking kidding me?
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>>101269527
What are you talking about?

DB GT has never been canon and it still isn't.
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>>101264409
Vegito is stronger than Gogeta.

Also I don't think it's fair to put BoG characters with GT characters considering BoG is canon.

I don't remember much about Majuub but didn't he got owned by Baby Vegeta?

Also Super Buu is much stronger than Kid Buu but he had the same personality as Perfect Cell
so instead of destroying tha planet he wanted to fight the protagonists to prove he's the strongest.
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>>101271027
>Which makes no sense because as far as I could tell, Kami could never just bring people back to life.

Did you not see dende healing krillin from almost certain death? Don't knock the dragon clan, you don't know their struggle. You don't know their life.
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>>101273356
>Implying Raildex "Physics" applies to anything else
Fucking no.
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>>101271036
>Goku not only dragged out fights, but allowed Piccolo and Vegeta to escape despite them being determined to enslave/destroy humanity back then.

He let's piccolo live because Kami would die.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laiYRwYMQsQ
TOP TIER WRITING
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>>101273509
No, I was specifically laughing at the notion that Dragonball doesn't rape physics.

>After image techinque
>Rabbit to the moon
>almost all of the techniques in the Budokai tournaments
>Krillin inhaling air to slow his descent in the air
>Goku blocking a sword with his finger
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>>101273625
>Funimation dub
>accurate
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>>101273669
>Goku blocking a sword with his finger

And earth-shattering punches with his face. Muscles, bitch.

>After image techinque

Easy. First they move so fast that they're invisible, randomly stopping at certain points to lure the opponent.

>almost all of the techniques in the Budokai tournaments

Paradox beam wasn't originally a triangle.
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>>101273669
I prefer an explanation using ki energy over the physics raildex uses.
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>>101274008
Ki exists in real life. Well, the idea of it anyway. Raildex physics was too retarded even for 400 A.D.
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>>101273983
>And earth-shattering punches with his face. Muscles, bitch.

None of their punches can shatter the earth, this is a common misconception. THey can ONLY destroy things by concentrating their ki into a single point.

Radditz mentions their Powerlevels rising signifcantly when they do it.

So, yes, it's still stupid he can block a sword with his finger simply because "Trunks wasn't going all out"

>Easy. First they move so fast that they're invisible, randomly stopping at certain points to lure the opponent.

A plausible explanation but in order to be able to do that, you'd probably need to move faster than the speed of light.

BUT, Dragonball characters can't do that, as referenced by this pic. Why would moving 10000 km be impressive if they could accomplish such a feat on a daily basis?

The technique slaps physics in the face, and dragonball is inconsistent as fuck for it.

The only explanation I can think of is it's similar to how a person can lose track of a fly, the user moves out of the attackers perception fast enough that they miss.
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>>101271536
Among the most successful mangaka, Toriyama is the common denominator as far as their influences go. No one who grew up in the 80s and 90s could possibly escape his influence.

>>101271601
He said "since dragonball". Gundam was out at the same time, so there obviously were no influences there.
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>>101273983
>Easy. First they move so fast that they're invisible, randomly stopping at certain points to lure the opponent.
That doesn't make sense when all of them attack at the same time and are somehow blocked.

>you'd probably need to move faster than the speed of light.
No, only faster than the speed of sight.
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>>101273492
Healing from near-death and bringing someone back to life aren't the same things.
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>>101274378
>A plausible explanation but in order to be able to do that, you'd probably need to move faster than the speed of light.

Characters can move quickly enough to vanish, as seen with Goku in the second tournament. We don't really know if the laws of physics are the same in the DB universe as in ours, and I'm guessing the rule about speed of light went out the window the day Freeza was born.

>None of their punches can shatter the earth, this is a common misconception. THey can ONLY destroy things by concentrating their ki into a single point.

Alright, rock-smashing punches. A normal face would not withstand it, but powerlevels increases the resilience of the body. Makes sense if you consider their training - If you're going to withstand 100 times the gravity, you'd just be reduced to mush in an instant.
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>>101274099
>>101274008
Esper powers are magic, you know. I don't remember to much physics talk.
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>>101264965
>Original Creator retcons GT out of existence.
>Anon thinks it's canon still.

top kek
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>>101274378
Idiot. If everyone can sense energy and no one could trail him for 10000Km because even from their view point it was instant, thats impressive.

Frieza tanked a planet exploding while being cut in half. Cell jrs have his durability but way higher. SSJ2 Gohan could one shot them. This isn't hard to figure out.
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>>101274667
>Gohan breaks his neck
>SENZU BEAN
>Goku gets a hole in his chest no bigger than what he's dealt with before
>SORRY DOC, HE'S A GONER
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>>101274673
>Characters can move quickly enough to vanish, as seen with Goku in the second tournament.

I still don't think he's moving faster than the speed of light, like I said, you can lose track of a fly zipping around you

Tenshinhan had to use 3 eyes looking in different directions but he eventually saw Goku
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>>101263516
>>101263516
oh wow, everyone looks the exact fucking same.
such diversity.

no wonder this show sucks/has no creativity.
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>>101263834
>super shy
or super-dense
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>>101272487
Only Heaven knows what middle-late Jojolion´s art style will look like.

Has a mangaka/comic artist ever returned to his roots? I not mean it in the "back to drawing amateursih" way, but reusing some details that were typical from his earlier works.
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>>101274781
>If everyone can sense energy and no one could trail him for 10000Km because even from their view point it was instant, thats impressive.

Vegeta wouldn't have been confused then, if that was the issue he would've had no doubt that it wasn't a trick of speed.

And it's obviously the distance that is impressive.

Not to mention further proof, Krillin says flying at full speed he's faster than BULMA'S JET.

They're going at Mach Speeds, not at the speed of light. If they were moving at the speed of light, Vegeta would've reached Cell before he finished shouting his second threat to the androids.
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>>101274830
Oh, well. Dragon Ball was a gag manga, no wonder it makes no sense. All that nonsensical bullshit stopped around King Piccolo, thankfully, because one aftermirage and Kienzan would've let Krillin kill Freeza.
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>>101263516
Was Turles related to Goku?
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>>101274754
>Implying Toriyama didn't oversee a shit-ton of GT and gave many ideas that were implemented into the show.

So yeah. Fuck off with your horse shit.
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>Goku drank Ultra Divine Water to unleash hidden potential and basically gets to use his Oozaru powers without going Oozaru
>Kaioken basically gives him power he doesn't have
>Spirit Bomb borrows energy from other people
>Super Saiyan is free energy for him to use
>Meanwhile, Vegeta struggles through opponent after opponent during the Freeza saga and is pummeled and beaten to near death several times and only comes back with a pittance of a power increase
>Goku gets beaten up once and goes from 90,000 to 3,000,000
>Goku dicks around in otherworld for 7 years where everything is less strenuous
>Vegeta spends every day training in intense gravity
>Goku still waaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of Vegeta
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>>101275083
What did you expected from a shounen?
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>>101274876
Akira Toriyama draws simpler and rounder nowadays
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>>101274792
they didn't have any senzu beans

>>101275083
Goku was shown to understand Super Saiyan more than Vegeta in the Cell arc.
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>>101274961
Don't listen to any retard that says DBZ characters go at lightspee, they probably watched the Funimation dub. If they really went at lightspeed on the planet they would destroy everything.
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Does anyone know why Dragon Ball Z Abridged is so good when everything else, and I do mean everything else even remotely similar is complete, unaltered 100% shit?
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>>101274378
>Instant transmission

Why didn't Goku ever teach that ability to anyone else? He's such a dick.
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>>101274876
I hope there will be more face variety. The first 15 or so Jojolion chapters looked terrible, but I think can see some positive changes now.
> but reusing some details that were typical from his earlier works
There have recently been more comedic reactions, like the ones characters in earlier parts used to have.
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>>101275441
Better question - Why didn't Goku learn Kiko-Ho? It's 10x stronger than a Kamehameha, at half power it would've wiped Freeze off the planet with Goku ever going SSJ.
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>>101275528
I personally like it when an arc has humor during the first half or two thirds but has a serious end, like SBR.
I'm loving JoJolion so far and hope it'll have a similarly strong ending.
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>>101275441
same reason he didn't teach Kaioken, they didn't ask.

Not to mention he offers for people to train with him and they turn him down.

What the actual fuck were you doing Krillin when you said that?

>>101275579
>at half power it would've wiped Freeze off the planet with Goku ever going SSJ.

No. Goku wasn using Kaioken x 20, a Kikoho on top of that would've killed him and Freeza just would've been badly injured.
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>>101275579
Did you forget Kikohou shortens lifespan? The Turtle Hermit probably forbade Goku and Krillin from learning it.
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>>101275756
Death is cheap, just Kikoho everyone and resurrect later.

Of course, talking about the guy who GAVE CELL A FUCKING SENZU BEAN so he could BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIS OWN SON for his own sick pleasure.
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>>101275827
>goku is there
>Trunks is alive
>Krillin and Piccolo's rape faces

My sides
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>>101275528
And also this one.
>>101275633
Even Araki himself probably has no idea how it will end.
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>>101263834
>Or a harem like scenario, where the strongest saiyans have many waifus and spread their genes around until someone overthrows them and takes over.
That could very well be the case. It sounds like something a strong warrior-oriented society would do. It doesn't add up when you think about Broly, though, who lived next door to Goku as a kid. But I don't believe that's canon, so who cares.
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>>101268450
Squealer a shit.
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>>101274961
Goku traveled across Namek in half a second. Its cannon FTL.

Vegeta was surprised because he knew he could follow Goku but had no idea what happened.

Point about the punches still stands.
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>>101275300
>What is perfect ki control
They're all complete masters of their powers, retard.
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>>101276500
But would the men always be the strongest? Could there be a reverse-harem (which would kinda have no purpose)?
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>>101277424
It still doesn't make sense though. They wouldn't have long flying conversation scenes if they went at lightspeed. Goku going faster than Bulma's plane is impressive apparently so they around the speed of sound. Only the Funiamtion says they go at lightspeed.



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