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http://jobs.netflix.com/jobs.php?id=NFX00838

http://tammymatixonh.com/netflix-entering-japan/

Since Netflix aims to enter Japan before 2016,

can you imagine Netflix funding anime just like how they fund UK & US shows?

Think about this:

>Netflix enters Japan
>Netflix creates original content for Japanese audiences
>Netflix then funds anime studios to create anime aired only on Netflix
>Japanese subscription to Netflix grows 90% within a month
>Netflix becomes a rival to Crunchyroll and Funi in anime streaming

What do you think of Netflix trying to save anime? They already saved the television industry, but can they save anime?
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If Netflix wants to fund anime studios,

then sure.

But i bet it'd be stuff like Space Dandy. Let's see if they also produce moe anime.
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>>101254750

More moe doesn't help anyone. There is already so much airing every season that most of it sells like shit, because the 1 or 2 shows that get popular get all the sales.
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>>101254750

I'm pretty sure Netflix will produce various genres.

They've done political thrillers, horror and a prison drama. And next up is Marvel Comic stories like Daredevil
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I hope not
RIP in peace fansubs.
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>>101254808

>Implying Netflix will kill fansubs

Crunchyroll's still going on despite Daiz and HS.
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>>101254838
>despite Daiz
>implying Daiz isn't the real leader of CR
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>>101254794

I hope that if Netflix does moe,

it'll be stuff like Aria and Non Non Biyori.

Hell, Netflix should help KyoAni and Kadokawa fund Haruhi S3. It's what all the gaijins want.
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>>101254621
You're assuming anime is even close to what they're trying to create. What makes you think they won't just try and make live action Japanese series? Or just keep making American series and sub them in Japanese?
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>streaming
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I found attack on titan at my friend's house on netflix.

Now he wants more.
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>>101254894
If Daiz was leader of CR then why aren't they releasing in 10bit?
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>>101254957

Well, the thing is that there is absolutely NO streaming culture for Live action J-dramas.

If you try and make original J-dramas for Netflix, it'll flop because Housewives and Arashi fans suck at using computers.

Also, Johnny Kitagawa hates the Internet and forbids his actors from appearing on Nico Nico, so anime is much likelier content for Netflix to do that J-dramas.
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>>101254621
>can you imagine Netflix funding anime just like how they fund UK & US shows?
There is already a group of people who fund anime in Japan. Netflix would just join them. The effect would be minimal, but more money available is always good.
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>>101255115

That is one of the requirements Ntflix has to follow in France and Germany actually.

In France, Netflix has to be a part of the "producer's club" in order to launch in late 2014.

If they are able to enter France by September 2014, they will then be able to enter Japan after that.
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>>101255009

Back then, Netflix's anime selection was awful.
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Orange is the New black anime when?
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>>101255338


http://myanimelist.net/anime/6114/Rainbow:_Nisha_Rokubou_no_Shichinin
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>>101255041
>Housewives and Arashi fans suck at using computers.

Heh.
Well, they could always do the Nip thing and have actors guide viewers through Netflix.

I was really surprised to see Kpop singers teaching Korean in mini lessons on NHK.
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>>101255547

Netflix will have an official 2d mascot like Nanami.
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>>101255633
Nanami is the cutest.
What the hell is up with that new (or new to me) yellow screaming mascot?
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>People actually want more moe
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Anime currently on Netflix:
Attack on Titan
Fairy Tail
Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
Initial D
Soul Eater
Samurai Camploo
Fullmetal Alchemist
Trigun
KenIchi The Mightiest Disciple
Fullmetal Alchemist The Sacred Star of Milos
Black Butler
Heaven's Lost Property
Legendary Heroes
Trigun Badlands
Rosario Vampire
Sekirei
Inital D Third Stage
Kaze no Stigma
D.Gray-man
Ouran Host Club
My bride is a Mermaid
Blade of the Phantom Master
Sengoku Basara
Girls Bravo
Yamada's first time
Okami-san & her seven companions
Chrome Shelled Regios
Ghosthunt
Blood+
Chaos;Head
Hero Tales
Dance in the Vampire Bund
Baka & Test summon the beasts
.hack/quantum
Mazinkaiser SKL
Rin daugters of Mnemosyne
Digimon
Welcome to the NHK
Eden of the East
Princess Jellyfish
Chobits
Tenchi Muyo GXP
Squid Girl
Kite Liberator
Moon phase
Eden of the East: The king of eden
Yobi, the five-tailed fox
Eden of the East: Paradise lost
Spice and Wolf
Bubblegum Crisis
Kite
Tokyo Godfathers
Hetalia Axis powers
Hetalia Paint it white
Animen The galactic battle
Hetalia world series
The house
The Little Norse prince
Alakazam the great
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>netflix
Not even once.

A friendly reminder from /g/:
-netflix uses the proprietary, and patented MS VC-1.
-they use DRM to shit on your freedom
-they try to infect HTML5 with their bullshit "standards": https://www.defectivebydesign.org/netflix
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>>101256190

>>>/g/
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>>101254621
>neflix makes k-on season and PaSWG season
>it_prints_money!.gif
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>>101254971
>2016
>implying streaming won''t surpass torrents in quality
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there is a better chance of Amazon funding anime than fucking Netflix
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>>101256360
>this what streamfags believe
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>>101256190
>using netflix on a pc
>not on ps3/4, 360, one, wii, wii u, 3ds
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Watch out for Taneli Daiz Vatanen
The public enemy of fansubbing #1
He is the main responsible for...
☑ Crunchyroll
☑ HorribleSubs
☑ Making ElitistFags quit
☑ Killing fansubbing yearly
☑ Hostile takeover of Commie
☑ Holding subs hostage and forcing people to use Commie
☑ The development of the .H264 10-bit profile
☑ The development of the future .H265 10-bit profile
☑ Attempted assassination of Coalgirls and Sakura!Fish
☑ Attempted assassination of /a/ (ongoing)
☑ Successful assassination of ZeroYuki, Grumpy Jii-san, and Ken-sama
☑ Successful assassination of Saki: Achiga-hen character, Onjouji Toki
☑ Successful assassination of the authors of ‘Kaze no Stigma’, ‘MM!’, and 'Zero no Tsukaima'
☑ Successful assassination of Steve Jobs because Mac computers could not play 10-bit
☑ Shutting down the NyaaTorrents tracker
☑ Flooding Thailand to increase HDD prices and promote 10-bit video
☑ Shutting down Eri Kitamura's Twitter account
☑ Shutting down BitGamer
☑ Soiling Game of Thrones with unwatchable 10-bit
☑ Removing loli and rape from TVTropes
☑ Ruining a Q&A session with Hadena's Head of Public Relations
☑ Rotating several virgins' velocidensity and didn't take responsibility
☑ Introducing Kentaro Miura to iDOLM@STER, and constantly distracting Yoshihiro Togashi
☑ Extreme homophobia
☑ Humiliating Mitsuhiro Ichiki
☑ Telling Matsuda not to following Light's instructions not only in the Beijing Olympics but also London.
☑ Monopolizing Norio Wakamoto's signatures at Desucon Finland
☑ Suggesting Rotoscoping for Aku no Hana
☑ Eoten
☑ Convincing Anno to drop 2.0 subplots in favor of action to show off 10bit compression
☑ Sabotaging official encoders' efforts in order to make hobbyists look good

His ultimate goal is to kill anime.
However, you can stop him. Spread this list!
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>>101256448
>owning consoles
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>>101256415
But I'm not a streamfag. 2016 is probably too early, but eventually the only difference will be whether or not you're wasting hard disk space.
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Only a retard would get Netflix for anime. Be thankful there even is any.
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Fuck netflix.

I DON'T want them broadcasting anime with their DRM-ridden propreitary non-cross-platform shit quality expensive service.

That is a bad thing, not saving anime.
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>>101256721
>$8.99 a month
>expensive
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>>101256774
His parents dont give him an allowance.
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>>101256774
Torrents are free,netflix is not
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>>101256863
Torrents don't support anime. Neither does Netflix.
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>>101256901
I don't care.
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>>101256901
But the money I save by not using netflix and investing it into anime merch supports anime.
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>>101256774
>Torrenting anime
>0 dollars
>Get a digital copy rather than DRM-restricted temporary access to a copy on their servers. Furthermore all the benefits and freedom of use that comes with having a digital copy
>Better quality
>Can watch it on your choice of video player. Also your choice of operating system, not just the operating systems Netflix wants to support
>You're not supporting evil companies who destroy the Internet with services like this

>>101256863
Please don't just mention it's free. They are free and BETTER.

Normally when someone offers a service you have to pay for, it's better than the free alternative. Why would I PAY to get something WORSE in every way than the free alternative?
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>>101255997
>Attack on Titan

I actually pulled up Netflix to see if this was true. I'm honestly surprised they put more non-dubbed anime on it.
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>>101256774
Netflix is already experimenting with different content packages/prices. That service will turn to total shit in no time

>If successful, the pricing plans could be expanded to more of the company's 40 million subscribers worldwide. Netflix has a market value of $21.7bn.
source: Bloomberg
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>>101256972
You aren't buying any shows on Netflix, so digital copies are irrelevant, also quality is no better because Netflix is in HD (quality could be bad if you have shitty internet though...I mean REALLY SHITTY) You can watch Netflix on nearly any device, more devices than you could watch a torrented download on. Evil companies reference just marginalized you.
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>>101255997
>Chrome Shelled Regios

Why.jpg
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>>101257225
Everyone loves Felli.
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>>101256190
Didn't netflix also outright crop movies into 16:9 ratios?

I remember reading about something like that.
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>>101257262
Too bad her winning won't get animated.
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Honestly, with all the hate it gets, I think this is a good thing if it happens.
Netflix was my gateway into anime, after watching pretty much every decent movie on there in my HS-to-NEET era, I checked on the Chinese girl cartoon section out of desperation, and quickly fell in love.

Now I draw cute girls doing cute things for a living, and have 200+ anime on my external HDD alone that I've seen, and that's only about a year after I started archiving anime.
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>>101257183
>so digital copies are irrelevant

No they are not. When I download a digital copy I am free to use it how I want, when I want, where I want. With netflix you have to be hooked up to the Netflix botnet.

>also quality is no better because Netflix is in HD

Quality is worse than good bluray rips. It is also worse because the renderer used to stream to you is far worse quality than something like VDPAU or madVR. It kills video quality.

>You can watch Netflix on nearly any device, more devices than you could watch a torrented download on.

Bullshit alert. You can watch anime you downloaded on MORE COMPUTERS AND OPERATING SYSTEMS than netflix. How many operating systems does netflix run on? How many OSs have the ability to playback H.264 content in an mkv container? All of them on pretty much any architecture.

Furthermore you can setup streaming yourself too, NFS, SMB, or even use a webserver and HTML5 video.

>Evil companies reference just marginalized you.

Except netflix is an evil company.

1) They have tried to "standardize" DRM into HTML5.
2) They are disrespecting people who don't know any better's freedom by offering them a proprietary DRM-ridden service and acting like it's a convenience. The simple act of spreading a service like this is an unethical one, even worse they make money off it.
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>America dominating foreign markets

Try and stop us faggots
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It's not that easy to do business in Japan.

There are a lot of laws that protect and favor native Japanese companies over foreign companies.

Netflix won't affect Japan at all.
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>>101256559
What makes you believe that?

Currently any first world internet connection is enough to streama non-compressed 10bit flac 1080p series. They could do it right now but they don't.

Why would they do it then?
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Aren't they involved to some degree in funding Knights of Sidonia?

I don't think it will help the anime /a/ likes, but I think it will help to revive the unmerchandisable '80s-'90s concept pieces /a/ claims to like.
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>>101257435
You can stream Netflix to your TV, your DVD/BD player for example...try downloading a torrent with your TV set or disc player.
>No they are not. When I download a digital copy I am free to use it how I want, when I want, where I want. With netflix you have to be hooked up to the Netflix botnet.
You aren't buying any movies with Netflix, it's like cable TV.
>Quality is worse than good bluray rips. It is also worse because the renderer used to stream to you is far worse quality than something like VDPAU or madVR. It kills video quality.
No. (reread original post)
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>>101254621
>Netflix
>saved the television industry
I'm sorry, when was the last time there was ever anything good on TV?

>implying Netflix will dethrone NicoNico which has already established itself in this niche
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>>101254750
>>101254794
>>101254803
If they enter the Japanese market and decide to create original content specifically for the Japanese market, I don't think it's terribly far-fetched.
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>>101257636
>I'm sorry, when was the last time there was ever anything good on TV?

There's lots of good stuff on TV.
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>>101257598
HD means jackshit. HD or FullHD just means it's in a certain resolution. I can upscale a 280p video to 720p and call it HD.
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>>101257685
Netflix shows with SD sources aren't ever upscaled to HD, as far as I know.
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Netflix will be in Japan what Google is in China - nothing
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>>101257678
>There's lots of good stuff on TV
I'm looking at tonight's schedule and all I'm seeing are documentaries, generic cop shows, generic sitcoms and bad movies. Just like any other year.
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>>101257636
Nico's niche is really different from where Netflix would be aiming, and is pretty limited. Most of their produced stuff is really bottom of the barrel niche, and their limited and fannish userbase seals this.

Netflix would be selling to normals, in large part selling to Western normals.
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Stop trying to summon Daiz to this thread you filthy faggots.
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>>101257862
>in large part selling to Western normals.
...Not in their Japan operations?
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>>101257862
>anime
>ever appealing to normalfags
The only stuff that appeals to most people are established franchises like Ghibli, Gundam or Eva. And the way those are hooked up with rights / etc there's no way they'll ever appear on Netflix.

It's dead before it's even taken off.
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>>101257499
>>America dominating foreign markets
>
>Try and stop us faggots

You tried that already, the anime bubble had burst, Go home.
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>>101257919
10 BIT 8 BIT 10 BIT 8 BIT 10 BIT 8 BIT 10 BIT 8 BIT 10 BIT 8 BIT 10 BIT 8 BIT 10 BIT 8 BIT 10 BIT 8 BIT 10 BIT 8 BIT 10 BIT 8 BIT 10 BIT 8 BIT 10 BIT 8 BIT 10 BIT 8 BIT 10 BIT 8 BIT 10 BIT 8 BIT
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Daiz has been dead since 2009.
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>>101257675
Maybe instead of invading Japan, they should start by funding American cartoons first, excluding shitty adult comedies.
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>>101254957
>What makes you think they won't just try and make live action Japanese series?
Because japs hate looking at japs.
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>>101257598
>You aren't buying any movies with Netflix, it's like cable TV.

It's somewhat like cable TV. I don't see why you keep saying this. My point is exactly that you DON'T get a digital copy.

>No. (reread original post)

Yes. Now reread my post.
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>>101257636
Isn't Niconico just youtube but shittier quality?
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>>101258349
>shittier quality
depends on the video
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>>101258391
Nah, Nico has shit video.
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>>101258452
I'm on a fairly shitty DSL connection and there are videos there that load in really high resolution HD despite my protests against it

I'm not even sure there's a way to adjust it
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>>101258479
Like what?
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Netflix won't produce anime. Anime is niche even in Japan; they want to enter the Japanese market, not the anime market.
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>>101258489
Not him, but I've seen some MMD videos that were really high quality, and even seemed to be playing at 60 FPS.
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>>101256190
>2014
>Scared of botnet etc.

Seriously, you are so autistic you ought to have a led-hat.
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>>101258555
>Video
>Video Stream
>@60fps
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>>101257949
Western normals tend to take to certain types of show very well, if it's presented in a nonthreatening manner.

And as for franchises in particular - remember, Disney has overseas rights for Ghibli and they're deep in bed with Netflix. Gundam is handled by Bandai directly, and they've shown a preference for working with digital content partners outside the anime industry; recently Gundam shows have simulcast via a Bandai/Youtube partnership.
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How delusional is everyone ITT?

If anyone was going to fund anime series it be cr Or cartoon network.

I know everyone wants to think anime is much loved and watch in Japan but only super popular shows are even seen at a decent time. Like naruto. You don't want another naruto do you?

But let's say they did jump into the industry. You know how many studios they are? Every season somewhere between a fifth to a third of anime made never make enough to break even in their lifetimes. And now you want to add another studio? Who makes original titles? That could drive other studios to slow production down. Or shutdown entirely. In fact to get their own studio going they would have to sniper talent away from others, Or even take one over entirely.

Use your brains morons. It's a horrible idea. Thank god it has no chance in hell of happening.
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>>101258873
>Like naruto.
Naruto isn't popular in Japan
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>>101258873
>And now you want to add another studio
No one said this
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>>101258873
>I know everyone wants to think anime is much loved and watch in Japan

Except no one thinks that.
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>>101258873
>How delusional is everyone ITT?
You didn't even read the thread
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>>101258940
>In TV Asahi's latest top 100 Anime Ranking from October 2006, Naruto ranked 17th on the list.[167] Naruto Shippuden has ranked several times as one of most watched series in Japan.[168][169]
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That's lovely, now if only Netflix would come to Australia.
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>>101257788

Buying actual physical goods such as DVDs and BD is still strong. Heck, even CD sales is still strong in Japan.
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>>101258948

Are you stupid Or something? How else would they make a title? I swear the kids who get on /a/ these days...
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>>101259024
>How else would they make a title?
By paying a studio that already exists to do it, you fucking idiot.
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>>101258489
see >>101237469
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>>101259024
>I swear the kids who get on /a/ these days...
Subtlety is a fine art anon.
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>>101258452

You have to pay/subscribe so you can get higher quality.
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>>101259024

You don't retain full rights to your own stuff if you don't produce it yourself.

Damn son. How stupid are you?
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>>101257499
>us
>not even a part of society
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>>101258873
>ANIME IS NOT BIG IN JAPAN!
>COMPARED TO!
Fucking nowhere moron, jesus christ are you retarded.
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>inb4 CR dies
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>>101254923
NNB was fucking garbage you fucking cancer.
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People like Netflix and their original programming because they're very different from shows on TV. Basic cable TV shows are based on ratings, a show with bad ratings gets subject to schedule shifts, sudden changes and rewrites, out of order airing or other woes at the whims of the network.

Netflix shows have none of these. They're produced in its entirely in one season, allowing the writers to create a full plot that they resolve at their own pace without having to go: "Gee, I don't know if we'll get a back order or not, let's be ready to quickly wrap things up during the mid-season finale".

The thing is that anime has never had the same woes that live action american TV has. Anime, being animation, is already created fully in a season ahead of airing. So even if Netflix does make anime... there's nothing to suggest it'll be all that new or different from anime we already watch.
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>>101258873
This isn't necessarily true.
CR "funding" an anime makes no sense, because they're primarily owned by a coterie of Japanese firms that already fund anime themselves and have no need to tie themselves to one distribution method.
CN funding anime makes little sense because they already have their own production capabilities; a large part of the death of old Toonami was CN realizing they didn't need to make expensive deals with Japan when they could give five interns a couple ounces and a copy of Macromedia Flash and get a show that rated almost as well.

Netflix, on the other hand, is currently trapped in a very bad place: they produce none of their own content, are reliant on Hollywood and American TV networks for all of it, and basically have to pay whatever is demanded. Therefore, making arrangements to source their own very cheap content, and sponsoring anime is very cheap, helps them - each individual show may only push a few thousand subscribers over the line, but as part of a corpus of other content not hostage to Disney/ABC or NBC/Comcast, it gives them a position to bargain from and a subscriber base which isn't gone the second they inevitably clash with one of those companies and all of the relevant content disappears for a month or two.
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>>101259250
Netflix devs pls go
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>>101259221

CR will soon be part of News Corporation
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>>101255015
is 10bit better? I seriously don't understand the whole hi10p thing. As far as I know, you guys hate it along with this Daiz guy.
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>>101254621
That's right, kill lolis off from anime even more...
Fuck off Netflix.
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>>101259344
>>>/v/
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>>101259344
>is 10bit better?
Yes.
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>>101254923

But Kadokawa doesn't give a shit about Haruhi. They'd want to save a S3 for when they have lots of new novels to sell.
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>>101254621
>original content
>limiting BD releases to the netflix-only audience
Yeah, no.
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>>101259348
According to >>101255997 Netflix has Dance in the Vampire Bund right now. I wonder if they censored it, because I clearly remember it being uncensored.
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>>101259490
And still their presence will only further worsen lolis' position.
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>>101257856
>documentaries
bad
thats pretty unfair
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How is this not an advertisement for Netflix again?
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>>101259375
Thanks for the straight answer. Video formats are my weak point. I watch a lot of anime, so I should probably learn more about them.
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>>101259568
>I watch a lot of anime
>not knowing about Hi10p
>unironcially lying on the internet
Get a load of this faggot, everyone.
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>>101259528
Well, not all documentaries are good.
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I'm more worried about American morals being pushed in the japanese market.

The good thing about Japan is that it can make anything it wants, plot-wise, and nobody is going to give them shit for it. You can make a series in which there's both male and female villains, because your MC is entitled to punching both in the face if it's for JUSTICE.

But doing the same in the west would raise a shitstorm about instigating violence against womyn.

I really hope Netflix doesn't end up poisoning the last bastion for freedom of thought in media.
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>>101259691
>documentaries, generic cop shows, generic sitcoms and bad movies


One of these things is not like the others.
one of these things doesnt have an adjective.
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>>101259697
Like I said, it's probably another push against lolis.
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>>101259697
>She has to be a villain to be punched in the face
You're just as bad as they are.
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>>101259815

Better than having every single woman character be a sassy and indipendent woman who don't need no man, whose entire personality is making cracks at the token loser male character and making jokes about "men, am I right?".

You know.

Like every single female character in western tv. Unless she's the token daddy issues character.
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>>101259871
What terrible shows are you subjecting yourself to?
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>>101259697
>Japan
>freedom
>of anything
Now you sound like a hardcore trash weeaboo.
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>>101259902

I fortunately don't follow shows that happen to follow boring tropes.
I'm just noticing the trend, both in movies and tv.
It's like everyone is afraid of making female characters that are put in any kind of bad light, lest the feminists might be unleashed.

>>101259915

I'm aware of how shit of a country it is, living in it. But as deprived as media is here, you can still tell the writer had an idea and stuck with it. With western works there's always that unease, that knowledge that there's a lot that was probably cut to make it more PC.
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>>101259255
>5 interns a couple ounces and a copy macromedia flash
>heheh
>ponie
>ohi'vemademyselfsad.jpg
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>>101259076
Too bad every second video on Nico is UNDER HEAVY TRAFFIC PLEASE UPGRADE TO PREMIUM. Or I have to stop video because it's downloading too slow on fucking 60mbps. Youtube may not have the same quality sometimes but at least it's less problematic.
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>Netflix has Toku shows
>mfw
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>>101259963
In the west you can actually see stuff like books and comics existing and having the chance to get a proper fanbase and get better themselves. You can actually see it happening sometimes.

In Japan it may take like 3 months for you to be axed. And many, many do.
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Netflix is a gateway streamer of the worst kind. It's a bad service, a clusterfuck of DRM and bitrate that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive subscription faggotry and CONVENIENCE. The normal anon can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the service itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.
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>>101260097
However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The sheer amount of shows all trying their hardest to look cool, the gimmicks, peculiar, colorful clothes, the whole streaming faggotry and everything about the services fuels their escapist fantasies, while the pity-party bandwidth, emphasis on stick-it-to-the-cable-operators, and overall preachiness of the service make it fit just right with the uninformed drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underageb& retards eat this shit right the fuck up.
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>>101259963
>you can still tell the writer had an idea and stuck with it.

Like Sacred Blacksmith and the retcon of MC being raped?
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>>101255041
>If you try and make original J-dramas for Netflix, it'll flop because Housewives and Arashi fans suck at using computers.
Netflix is on video game consoles too.

Even the 3DS has Netflix.
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>>101260122
Netflix is basically THE streaming service to attract the most hated sort of people known to /a/, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every anon to troll the fuck out of this company and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no Netflix threads ever encourage the newfriends to show their faces here.
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>>101260127
I wish reality would retcon that entire piece of shit from existence
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>>101259697

You just wait until 2020.

You've got a good 8 or so years to enjoy lolis.
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why even bother? chine is about to nuke japan
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>>101260249

>China
>capable of Nuking anything

Have you seen the condition of their country? They can't even take care and you think they're ready to Nuke a country?
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>>101260249
>China
>Do anything

They're a fucking paper tiger. Why are people acting like they're a legitimate thread?
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>>101255997
>girls bravo
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>>101260249
China will attempt to launch but it'll blow up in the silo because they suck and are dumb
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>>101260394

>you will never have a bunch of lolis and women fawn over you, because you're the only male on their planet

;_;
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>>101260249
It could be worse, they could pack the rockets with gooks itself and send it over. Nukes are small time.
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>>101260428
>u will never be able to enjoy shows that are that retarded
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>>101260307
It's like you've never heard of North Korea
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>>101260367
I thought china was a place not a spool
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>>101255311
It still is. AoT is fucking shit
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>>101257119
If you're implying it's the first non-dubbed anime on it then you're a fucking idiot.
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>>101260129

>Implying Japanese women use video games?

And Japanese women are too stupid to run apps
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>>101260543
Now you're just being retarded for the sake of being retarded.
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>>101260579

Have you met a Japanese woman?

They can be quite dumb when it comes to tech.
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>>101260609
>Have you met a Japanese woman?
Have you?
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>>101260626

Yes.
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>>101260609
That's not really exclusive to Japanese
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>>101260626
How do you know he isn't a japanese woman talking from experience?
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>>101259247
>NNB was fucking garbage

Wow, I'm genuinely surprised at how shitty your tastes are.
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>>101260609
>Have you met a Japanese woman?
Yeah, quite a few. Have you met any?
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>>101260658
He wouldn't be on 4chan if that were the case.
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>>101255311
That hasn't changed.
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>>101257636
They gave me Arrested Development s3. That's enough for me.
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>>101255842
Get used to it, faggot.

>>>/v/
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>>101254794
>More moe doesn't help anyone. There is already so much airing every season that most of it sells like shit,

It doesn't matter to some producers. That's because some advertisers want a time slot as well as a minimum number of runs. To purchase that outright might cost more than simply sponsoring an anime production. At that point, the company finds producers seeking sponsors and voila, the anime gets enough initial sponsorship to get green lighted.
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>>101260665
And I am not even a little surprised at your cancerous behavior.
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>>101260750
You mean season 4, right?
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>>101257636
I like House of Cards. A lot.
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>>101260127
Right, because citing one exception voids the entire trend.

Looking at fucking Rapelay.
The US bitched about it
Japan's response? No exports for you gaijins and then it continue to be available within Japan.
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>>101260609
>They can be quite dumb when it comes to tech.
I don't see how that's unique to Japan.
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>>101260860
That wasn't on TV

CHECK AND MATE
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>>101260882
Wasn't it eventually banned in Japan too, thanks to Murrica?
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>>101260827
You're pathetic. Not even worth the bother.
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>>101260840
Oh, right.
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>>101260918
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Cards_%28U.S._TV_series%29
>TV series
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>>101260962
>Wikipedia
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>>101255997
FMA Brotherhood doesn't even have all the episodes on there
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>>101260918
But that's what he means by "saving" TV.

Moving it to the computer.

If comcast decided to broadcast channels via software and just fucked with the equipment on their end (I must stress they'd only need to fuck with shit on their end while sending you an adapter), do you know how fast the internet could be if they converted their cable network to being used for internet connection? In the end, they're just sending data now that all American TV is digital.

We'd be first world.
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>>101261003
>moving the goal post
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>>101255997
>Chaos;Head
For what purpose?
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>>101256448
>watching ANYTHING on a 3DS
DISGUSTING
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>>101260526
>More
>First

If you think I'm implying that, you're a fucking idiot.
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>>101261030
They didn't move! The posts weren't there to begin with! You missed it entirely!
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>>101261135
Try harder, faggot.
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>>101256972
>not supporting film/anime producing company
>thinks piracy is justified
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>>101259697
>The good thing about Japan is that it can make anything it wants, plot-wise, and nobody is going to give them shit for it
Have you read any news about recent Japanese censorship laws on visual entertainment?
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>>101260924

No.
It even got a sequel expansion pack.
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>>101261510

And nothing will change, as usual.
As dumb as the centuries-old farts they got on government are, they wouldn't kill the only thing they got on their inside market.

And in any case, they don't affect creative freedom as much as western values.
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>>101261558
>And in any case, they don't affect creative freedom as much as western values.
you ever wonder why no manga has the level of violence of Fist of the North Star on Jump anymore?
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>>101261510
>2014
>thicker censor bars on ero manga
>no ecchi otaku anime earlier than 12 AM

Other than that Japan can still make anything it wants, plot-wise.
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>>101261604
Because they all do now?

>Nurarihyon has MCs mother bathing in a lake of blood and eating humans
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>>101257388
Nobody gives a fuck. Fuck off back to Deviant art / Gaia / facebook and don't come back. Normalshit
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>>101261698
ok, I'll admit that
but what's the point of story liberty if Japan's audiences' income can only support moe shit?
They have all the freedom they have, but the show's variety of theme and genre are definitely less than American tv dramas
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>>101261068
You're always Super Special, that's why you are here with me./spoiler]

Also people who watch Stein's;Gate hear about it and get curious. Might as well have it on there since it stops them from pirating it.

Also worth noting that some of the anime have only the SECOND SEASON up, and not the first. I know for sure they have only the second season of Spice and Wolf and for a while they had Clannad: After Story but no Clannad.
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>>101261825
Yeah, cop dramas, cop comedy, lawyer comedy, lawyer drama and I think that one show about some gay family Modern House or something.
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>>101261604

because stuff like that doesn't like that doesn't sell in the XXI century Japan anymore?

Also, outside Naruto/Bleach/One Piece realm, ToLoveRu is proving to be Jump's consistent high seller.

at the end of the day... the market has final say
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>>101257435
>That whole reply
tl;dr - you're a faggot.

>Even longer tl;dr
Also, is it just me or is it becoming more common now with hollywood taking an interest in japan, and japanese style entertainment / art? Did they finally realize the reason most of their target audience (the impressionable youth who they hope watches their talk-show tier reality television bullshit) has become bored with T.V. garbage and is migrating over to anime, and they don't like the fact that's happening (because it clearly fucking is), so now they're trying to pique interest with the youth by following us into the spectrum of entertainment we abandoned american-tier hollywood entertainment for - anime, and are now trying to plant their roots there.

Its like, as time went on the youth, and for the most part, the 80's and 90's generation, got sick and tired of bullshit that hollywood pumped out, and they realized they were losing viewership, and when they went to figure out what the fuck was happening, and why - they found that japanese anime was responsible for their loss in revenue / viewership, so now they're metaphorically pissed off, and are trying something new by commercializing anime in order to retain it's already lousy audience, and hopefully re-capture its lost fanbase / viewerbase.

That's what it seems like to me anyway. The television execs - etc etc, are stalking us, trying to figure out a way to re-introduce their commercialized bullshit into our lives by way of targeting something that we consider sacred territory.

The "all you need is kill" bullshit, the "kite" bullshit, and lately the rumors of the Ghost in the shell bullshit....it's clearly obvious they know now what it is that's stolen - and continually stealing their potential viewerbase, so they're getting horrible sites like netflix to cover their lost ground.

And no, this isn't a copypasta, but you may use it as such if you wish.
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>>101257377
>won't get animated

Yes the fuck it will faggot.... in my dreams ;_;
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>>101257636
Go to the light, and watch Doctor Who.
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>>101257636
>when was the last time there was ever anything good on TV?
This.
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>>101261964

Hey man i'd love to see CHOBITS and Gunslinger Girls Live action.
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>>101261825

forget anime

manga & doujin is WHERE IT'S ALL AT!

If you want everything imaginable it's all in manga format, no holds barred. It's not all moeblobs and shit in the manga realm.
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>>101261825
>>>/tv/
>moeshit
>a genre

Please try harder.
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>>101258290
>Maybe instead of invading Japan, they should start by funding American cartoons first, excluding shitty adult comedies
See
>>101261964
>Its like, as time went on the youth, and for the most part, the 80's and 90's generation, got sick and tired of bullshit that hollywood pumped out, and they realized they were losing viewership, and when they went to figure out what the fuck was happening, and why - they found that japanese anime was responsible for their loss in revenue / viewership, so now they're metaphorically pissed off, and are trying something new by commercializing anime in order to retain it's already lousy audience, and hopefully re-capture its lost fanbase / viewerbase.

>That's what it seems like to me anyway. The television execs - etc etc, are stalking us, trying to figure out a way to re-introduce their commercialized bullshit into our lives by way of targeting something that we consider sacred territory.

Do you understand that most of the companies responsible for those "shitty american cartoons" belong to the same Television & Internet streaming services - if you look back far enough into the ownership - that would destroy everything japan has built up over the past 30 years with their commercialized bullshit? I had an actual jpeg, a picture that linked every single television-owned company and showed you its roots, who it ACTUALLY belongs too, and what branching companies it also has ties too.

Does anyone have that picture? /r/equesting the massive chart that displays all the "entertainment" industries affiliated networks / sponsored channel / parent companies.
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>>101261964
TV execs hate Netflix.

Comcast and its partners are marching a crusade against Netflix.
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>>101262395

Hold up, so right now Netflix is like the unstoppable French empire spreading with Napoleon at helm?
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>>101262562
Yes, they've begun producing their own content, good content that they can be sure will be a financial success thanks to the kind of data they can collect on their customers.

For instance, they knew a very large portion of their customers enjoyed watching British TV dramas, political dramas, Kevin Spacey, and films by Fincher. So what did they do? They made House of Cards.

Eventually, TV and film will be streamed to homes through devices, and Netflix has already built a very strong brand for that service.
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>>101262395
Yeah, I know. It's because Netflix steals the potential customers away from them, due to offering the same product, for less, with less hassle, and in mostly higher quality, and not to mention on a computer, so you don't need a television to watch tv anymore, and comcast doesn't like that at all, I understand that. However, do you get the general gist of what I'm trying to say? It's as if they got think tanks together to figure out why the youth, that USED to participate in their commercialized reality-television-tier 3DPD Fest of cop shows, daytime dramas, and other garbage - is no longer participating, and it's because they've strayed away from that shit due to getting bored of it, and fell into a newer, better form of entertainment. The television execs (including netflix, because they DO air shows which show up on cable channels and such) tried everything in their power to create new entertaining shows - hoping to grab the attention of the youth and other audiences, they got desperate, stuff like fucking duck dynasty, storage hunters, ridiculousness etc etc, they hoped to metaphorically seduce the youth by including entertainment that the youth themselves could also - by chance - take part in.

For example, ridiculousness - it's a show that very literally takes advantage of the goddamn internet as it's main form of entertainment, and the execs behind the show knew, that the youth - while watching that garbage, would feel more "involved" due to the fact the show literally found its way into the "youths" spectrum, in other words, the show itself - because it could possibly include YOU or a clip of someone themselves who're watching the show, it made it feel as if it's involving the viewer, and in turn made it feel as if the show itself is somehow on the same wavelength as kids on the internet BECAUSE it's a show ABOUT video clips that kids on the internet often come across. Netflix is literally trying to appeal to anime fans, not housewives, like usual
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>>101262904
I don't think anime is that popular, honestly. Kids aren't getting cable because of youtube, podcasts, and videogames. I think anime factors very little into it.

I thought Hollywood's attempts at 3DPD'ing anime into film was because of a lack of writing material. They didn't try very hard to stick with Dragon Ball's original premise, if they really wanted to appeal to the fanbase. They just seem to be running out of ideas, book adaptations are becoming more and more common.

Hell, movies are becoming to books what anime is to LN's, manga, and VN's.
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>>101263056
>Hell, movies are becoming to books what anime is to LN's, manga, and VN's.

That's always been the case though. When a book is adapted the sales spike. It's just a shorter spike because the west doesn't like to read anything unless it's posted on Facebook or Twitter.
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>>101262904
In addition - Netflix, and video hosting websites like it, have an average viewerbase, and a VERY large portion of it is housewives who like to watch shows like Dexter, Game of thrones, and Breaking bad. Those housewife types really aren't good with computers, and not only that, but can you imagine the reaction from that viewerbase when they see a bunch of /a/'s favorite anime on the front page / most viewed video today - page, which before - used to have a big name show like Game of thrones or Breaking bad there? They won't know what the fuck something like : Yozakura Quartet, Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita, or Trigun are. The fact that netflix is trying to take it's product, which is often used by american housewives, and try to offer that product to the japanese, in and of itself is a horrible idea, but now that it's happening, it's proving the idea that television companies involved in online streaming, television affiliates, and the big "hollywood machine" is actually finally starting to pay attention to what the youth is most interested in. That IS a fact.

After all, we have the "Kite" movie, the "All you need is kill" movie adaptation, and now a Ghost in the shell rumored movie?, Hollywood is finally realizing they can't keep pumping out the same boring reality television shows, day-time drama bullshit, and sitcom / drama garbage, if they ever plan on keeping a decent viewerbase.
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I doubt Netflix is getting into Japan to do anime.
Now j-dramas they could revolutionize. There are a ton of talented people making Japanese movies that are very good. If they can get some of that talent to produce a few series we might get a few good dramas out of this.
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>>101263191
If you think any of those adaptations are going to make them money then you're off your meds.

Netflix won't focus on anime. What they will do is simulcast a few shows, add some older for nostalgia and money go for J/K-Drama.
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>>101263163
I don't remember many book adaptations when I was younger, but I might be wrong.
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>>101254750
Its more likely they will hire studios to animate certain originals. Expect more western story animations.
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>>101260152
See
>>101261964
>>101262370
>>101262904
and
>>101263056

/a/nons who don't watch television, don't give a fuck about what happens in the T.V. communities, but once a company like netflix tries to traverse across the medium of television-only shows & online-streamed shows, into an entirely different medium e.g.television backed online streamed ANIME, that's when shit's gonna hit the fan, because then you'll have people who'd of - otherwise never heard of, learned about, or seen - anime being discussed on /a/, anime liked by /a/, or simply the fact anime exists at all - coming here to /a/ talking about how they recently saw some cool "anime on netflix and wondered what we think about it". THAT is what we don't want happening. If netflix plans to setup shop in japan, taking it's daytime television garbage reality cop sitcom mashup 3DPD Garbage with it - in an attempt to coerce japans youth into taking part in the already gigantic machine known as hollywood tier entertainment - they'll realize it was a horrible mistake. I hope. They'll end up just as brainwashed, dumbed down, and idiotic as the american youth is. We need to fight against netflix EVER DARING to trespass into the realm of animation thinking it's some mediocre, mainstream, acceptable normalfag-tier type of entertainment.

When I go get a haircut, go shopping, or do whatever else out in the real world, I want to be the only one capable of looking at normalshits laughing at the fact they're plebs who have no idea what REAL entertainment is, but the move netflix is making aim's to essentially merge american entertainment, and japanese entertainment into one thing (metaphorically), making it something even normalfags will discuss openly. Say goodbye to powerlevel hiding.

Imagine it...can you imagine a bunch of people at a checkout isle discussing the most recent episode of Kill la Kill?, Space Dandy?, Seitokai Yakuindomo?, Or classics like The Slayers, LoGH, Etc etc? Fucking kill me now.
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>>101263735
The way streaming rights works for Netflix is on a country-by-country basis.

Netflix won't be streaming daytime american television to Japan. Netflix already had anime, a lot of anime. Some of the classics too.

Anime's biggest defense is the fact that it's anime, therefore having a massive stigma.
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>>101261135
>They didn't move! The posts weren't there to begin with! You missed it entirely!

and then

>>101261204
>try harder faggot

Oh god why did I laugh so hard. Not him but I thought that was fucking hilarious.
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>>101254621
>They already saved the television industry, but can they save anime?
what? the only original content they have worth watching is a single season of arrested development and that's only because the show already had a great cast. that said, what they produce could be worse, like amazon's zombieland tv pilot. what a miserable piece of shit that was.
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>>101254803
>Marvel

Dropped like a rock.
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>>101264140

Hosue of Cards and Orange is the New Black is better than 90% of network television.
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>>101263735
muh secret club mothafucka
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>>101264411
>Hosue of Cards
haven't watched, yet

>Orange is the New Black
overrated & inaccurate adaption of novel, trublood for whitecollar criminals
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>>101263811
>Anime's biggest defense is the fact that it's anime, therefore having a massive stigma.

Yeah, I get what you're saying. Can you honestly say to me, with a citation and checked reference, that "netflix won't be streaming daytime american television to japan"? You don't know that. Neither do I, nor does anyone else for that matter, but that'd be the worst possible outcome for us all. And also, yeah, netflix has a library of anime avaliable, but it's all anime discussed by, and liked by, normalfags. Think of : Youtube celebrities. Those are the types of people who watch the anime netflix has to offer, and then offer criticisms on it by way of making 2-3 minute "reviews" on youtube discussing what they saw on netflix, and then offering a free 30-day trial if they use a special word or some bullshit after the review of the anime is done. You know, the average 6'1 blond muscular hairy alpha faggot who's sitting next to a pseudo nerd chick with long hair and an almost "i fucking hate anime" smug looking expression on her face as they both discuss what's great about "black butler".

That's the type of crowd netflix brings in, as far as anime is concerned. I can even link you to a multitude of normalfags on youtube who have the backing of names, even ones beyond youtube, that do anime reviews, with fancy edited videos, introductions, etc etc. I'm telling you anon, anime is going to become a normalfag thing by the end of 2015 if things keep going the way they are.
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>>101264449
Your goddamn right it is. There comes a point in time when we need to stop. We're going to pass that point very soon. SO LETS KEEP GOING ANYWAY AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.JPEG
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>>101265043
The majority of the anime they have is licensed to funimation, for streaming within the united states only. And they're bound to have american programming on it, but they likely will not have much because networks like fox will demand too much for the international streaming rights. what netflix japan will likely have are a lot of kdramas, because kdramas are popular with japanese housewives and the current netflix has a number of kdrams & other korean programming.
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>netflix japan
bad move, last I checked netflix europe wasn't doing good and they've got computers. all japan has are smartphones.
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>Netflix funded an anime
>all episodes available at once

mite b cool
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>>101264772
I started watching it right now out of boredom and after seeing that Kevin Spacey plays the main guy. It probable should have been a movie or something, it feels like it's going to get too long for it's own good.

Orange is the New Black may have no been especially good, but at least it was okayish to watch no matter the time length of the story.
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netflix has AWFUL subs. literally worse than crunchyroll
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>>101262370
I don't really care, because I don't have some agenda against evil jewish megacorporations, most of the anime studios are corporate as hell too which is why they're able to pump out anime on a seasonal basis. I'd just like to see more cartoons made by people from my country that aren't family guy clones.
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>>101266672
Can't you like change the style?
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>>101263735
>because then you'll have people who'd of - otherwise never heard of, learned about, or seen - anime being discussed on /a/, anime liked by /a/, or simply the fact anime exists at all - coming here to /a/ talking about how they recently saw some cool "anime on netflix and wondered what we think about it".
That already happens and they're usually troll threads.
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>>101266672
Huh? Don't they use the DVD subs?

But yeah, tried watching Supernatural and the subs were all over the place in.
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>>101262671
>good content
I can't think of anything good that's a Netflix original. If it's anything like Hulu it's just AaronSorkinesque political dramas and flash-animated adult comedies.
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>>101256972
I don't get why streaming quality is considered worse than torrenting quality if the streaming quality should be equivalent to what you get on TV. Another anon said that data transmitted over waves has better quality than the data you get over the internet, but that sounds like technobabble like rotational velocidensity.
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>>101261132
Why does Attack on Titan still not have a dub? It seemed like the SAO dub came out really quickly.
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>>101266611
House of Cards looks really shitty like Westwing or the Newsroom.
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>>101255997

Also Ghost in the Shell [movie].

Tokyo Godfathers. Good feels.
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>>101262337
Slice of life is a genre. and madokagerion is a genre.
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>>101263056
I don't think anime is that popular but I think that's because of accessibility rather than interest. To be an anime fan, you either need to have a crunchyroll subscription or enough hard drive space to use torrenting. It's not that inaccessible, but it's more inaccessible than mainstream entertainment because of that.

Anime is more interesting to what young people like than hollywood trash & liberal propaganda so maybe corporations have picked up on that.
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>>101267484
>Anime is more interesting to what young people like than hollywood trash & liberal propaganda so maybe corporations have picked up on that.

There are young ones out there who've already been conditioned by liberal propaganda... and will find most anime "backwards" because Japanese culture. It won't be long when some liberal anime watcher make "Anita Sarkeesian" style videos... BUT THIS TIME specifically targeting anime/manga
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>>101268831
>It won't be long when some liberal anime watcher make "Anita Sarkeesian" style videos... BUT THIS TIME specifically targeting anime/manga

They've been doing that for years already. It's why anime is mostly known for being softcore porn.
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>>101268831
I think that's already started in a sense, because of the "Japanese declining birthrates" articles that were published everywhere back in October if you remember, but that could just be my paranoia speaking.
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>>101268922
>>101269021

But NO ONE has poked the hornet's nest like Sarkeesian
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>>101257856
rick and morty is a pretty good anime
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simply stating that Metropolis is one of the greatest animated films of all time wouldn't be doing it any justice, it's so much more than that! At first glance one might not even assume that this came from Japan what with it's very western styled animation, and expect another kid friendly Disneyesque film, but don't be fooled this is most definitely on par with works like Akira and Ghost in The Shell in terms of mature content. While stylistically not the best looking anime movie, it goes far beyond anything before it with animation that rivals it's Disney counter parts. Everything flows so organically with very few still frames used, something is always moving while on screen. On top of that you can only begin to appreciate the true genius in the animation when looking at the characters. While most anime movies suffer from a severe case of same face when not looking directly at a character, Metropolis went the extra mile and animated every bit of emotion into the characters faces. The entire world of Metropolis is equally ravishing with some of the most captivating cityscapes ever animated. What really brings the entire atmosphere that is Metropolis is the soundtrack. The Jazzy blues gives a certain sense of a classy futurist Noir Film. The story might come off as slow but it it moves well enough that you never find yourself not interested in the movie. Overall while most animated films only bring either a good story or great animation, Metropolis brings everything to the table making it a timeless classic of the anime Genre and by far one of the best animated films I've ever watched

I Give Metropolis 5 out 5 stars
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>>101267104
American TV is around 20mbits, Japanese TV is around 13mbits, and Netflix is around 6mbits - their experimental 4k and 8k streams are 11-15mbits. There's just a lot more data in broadcast.

The two caveats are that cable carries less data, and Internet services CAN be more efficient, but Netflix isn't.
In terms of pirated content, though, 10bit x264 is about twice as efficient as "normal" x264, which is about twice as efficient as American and Japanese broadcast MPEG-2. Hence why your 3mbit anime torrent is about as good as your 13mbit Japan TV raw and way better than your Netflix or Crunchy 4-6mbit stream.
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>>101269471
i associate this movie with i can't stop loving you
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>>101269747

Interesting. Here in Germany, public service HD channels air with 7-14 mbps H.264 video streams, almost exclusively at 1280x720p50.
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>>101269747

Not to mention that pirated video largely makes full use of H.264 encoding tools, while broadcast streams are constrained to short gops, low ref count, and a whole slew of other limitations.
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>>101270205
Yep. American FTA a shit (20mbit MPEG-2 720p or 1080i) and Japanese FTA REALLY a shit (13mbit 1080i until you like it, progressive not an option.) Europe's waiting a year or two longer really paid off.
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>>101255997
When Baccano was on Netflix (I think it's not anymore, but it's still on Funi or Hulu or something) I recommended it to some non-anime-watching friends as a good starting point.

I only think one person watched it though, and said it was too confusing, he didn't make it through ep 1.
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It's the conservatives that think of anime as softcore porn. Conservatives are also intolerant so they are the ones to try passing laws regulating anime such as the PROTECT Act which has caused so many problems for manga, anime, and related merchandise importation. Republican attorney general John Ashcroft was the primary champion of the PROTECT Act which was much watered down due the supreme court at the time being liberal due to appointments by the prior president Clinton still being in office. Ashcroft tried to get anime regulated the same as live-action media, but failed due to the liberal supreme court's objections towards limiting free speech (porn media).

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/editorial/2010-03-02/7

Ashcroft did manage to sneak in technical wording to differentiate _receiving_ versus _possession_ into the federal laws. SCOTUS protected possession, but Ashcroft prosecuted receiving thru the PROTECT Act. Details matter, not that 4channers with MEH or LOL attitudes know any better.
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>>101270380
This has close to zero to do with the thread fuck off back to /pol/ subhuman.
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Netflix isn't going to fund anime. Anime is too expensive to make for that shit, its not like 3d shows where you can find no-name actors and pump out a whole season for under a million bucks.
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>>101270446
A whole ten episode season of anime costs about $2million.
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>>101270335

On the other hand you get faggotry like channels exclusively airing shitty upscales of their SD counterpart (sup BR), some of the 7 mbps ones looking pretty ugly, and from what I've heard private stations here are a gigantic pile of bitstarved fugliness (can't speak from first-hand experience there though - they're actually making people pay for this bullshit)

Not to mention most SD channels look worse than they really need to, as well.

tl;dr: America and Japan are bad, but they're far from having the monopoly on video encoding retardation.
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>>101270446
>>101270512
Less. We have one actual anime budget, leaked when a studio accountant went looking for porn online and caught a virus, and the average "late night" anime (Bamboo Blade) was billed at 12 million yen an episode for actual production costs of around 10 million yen.
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>>101270636
I was shooting for 200k an episode as a midrange between that kind of show and LWA which had a budget of 38 million yen.
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>>101270703
30-40 is about right for "good things", which i can't really talk too much about. The median is lower than the mean, and the mode is lower than the median.
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>>101268831
Go back to anti-anime /pol/
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>>101270791
>the animators on the project must be paid enough so that they will not have to take outside work during the course of production and training.
>33 Inbetweeners doing 300 drawings each for a total of 11,000 drawings: to be paid 600 yen per drawing

Funny how paying someone just over a 6 dollars a drawing is considered to be 'enough' such that they wont want or need to take on any other jobs. The pay must be awful for animators. I think I saw Trigger offering about $600 a month at one point.
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>>101271021
"just over $6" would be amazing. Industry standard is $1.50 to $1.75 a tween, tweener average salary below $10,000 a year.

It "makes sense" because there's a shitload of people who want to work on anime basically for free and it lets everyone filter out the best of the best by seeing who sticks around for two-five years of ramen noodles before promotion to KA, but goddamn there's gotta be a better way.

(And KA isn't hugely better, you may make $20 a frame but you're expected to turn out 3-5 a day rather than 10-15 of the $1.75 ones.)
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>>101271197
The guys on the training program were getting about $200 a keyframe. The government really paid out I guess.
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>>101271339
>The guys on the training program were getting about $200 a keyframe
I meant to type cut, not keyframe. I realized how ridiculous that looked when I read it back.
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I kind of doubt this will have any significant impact on the anime industry whatsoever. The owner and ceo of netflix even has said on record that the system of buying and streaming their content for a small fee isn't exactly making them rich, its not very cost effective, and is why they're slowing down on most percurments of bigger titles.
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>netflix took down The Kids in the Hall
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>>101271501
Exactly. Netflix is only making original content in the US because Netflix was poaching viewers from the major networks, and the networks responded by trying to raise licensing fees on Netflix. The Netflix-original shows are only used as a way by Netflix to get leverage.

There's not going to be the same problem in Japan because the anime industry's revenue doesn't come from television viewership, it comes from disc and merchandising sales.
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>>101271197
>tweener average salary below $10,000 a year

How do they even manage to survive in Japan on $10k a year?
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>>101255997
>Dance in the Vampire Bund
way too pedo for a western audience
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>>101271757
They don't, they live on parental money.
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>>101271694
There's room for a sponsor that makes their money off of "direct sales" bringing back the '80s/'90s OAV sales back.

>>101271757
There's a saying about the anime industry being subsidized by fathers who are inordinately liberal with their basements.
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>>101271845
Most animators are otakus too?
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>>101271903
Definitely. Miyazaki is right about his assumptions about who animates, even though I think he's wrong about the conclusions he draws. It's been this way forever, too; remember, even Hideaki Anno got his start filming Ultraman and Power Rangers fan films on Super8.
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>>101271990
And the "standard" road into animation is paying $5000-$10000 for a semester or a year at YOYOGI ANIMATION ACADEMY. This is so cliche there was an episode of Sayonara, Zetsubou-sensei making fun of it.
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>>101271845
That's pretty sad. So otakus are subsidizing the industry not only with their wallets but by working for nothing on top of it.
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>>101272119
Pretty much. It's disturbingly similar to how American media industries work, where you "intern" for a year or two for almost-free.

I wish Miyazaki would be less of an angry old man and help gengamen go on strike rather than whining about them being autistic. And I wish KyoAni would actually animate something really good rather than the same old moe at 3-4x the salaries, to prove that their enlightened attitude towards workers was a good thing.
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>>101272050

I knew an idiot weab who actually worked for them for a year. Actually I think he ended up paying them for "training costs".

Now he's back in America. The last time I heard from him, he was unemployed.
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>>101270348
I wish my friends would have been so kind. They told me to start with Naruto and Bleach.
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>>101272298
You know Michael Arias?
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>>101263735
B-but muh secrkit klub. I wonder how /a/ would react if moe became huge in America. You'd probably kill yourselves because you only watch anime because you want to be a special snowflake.

I bet you don't even speak Kaji.
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Nothing will ever beat pirating a trillion things and making your own catalog.
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>>101259247
go back to your grimdark pretentious normie shit
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>>101272760
I'm pretty sure the average /a/non isn't that autistic. The only reason I 'hide' my power level is because I don't want to attract weeabos. But I don't hide my hobbies otherwise and I feel no shame in speaking about it with somebody else.
Who cares if anime becomes mainstream? If were to become big in the West, that may be a good thing. It means the purchasing power of the West and the taste of the West will be a determining factor in series renewals or revivals, and although Western-catered shows right now tend to be crap (see: Space Dandy), it's possible that we won't have to rely on the elevens and their shit taste in the future for good shows to get more love.
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>>101266713

Even if you have an american artist that's drawing in a japanese style, and even if this artist, after finishing his "comic" - (aka japanese influenced art style) - it happens to get serialized, and then animated by, backed by, and aired by legitimate television / production companies, and even if it's in japanese style, and even if the plot, characters, and even location (literally in japan) are japanese based - it's still an american cartoon.

The moment an americunt puts his hands on japanese work, it becomes polluted and is no longer considered japanimation.

For an animated series to be considered "anime", It must
1.) Be voiced by japanese people.
2.) Must be created by japanese artists
3.) Must be produced in the country of japan.
4.) Must have an original LN/Manga that's spearheaded by a japanese person, who lives in japan.
Regardless of what some faggot ITT says, those ARE the bottom line requirements.

You can not, and will not ever have an american artist, create something legitimate with the name "anime". Any time an american creates a cartoon, it's immediately a cartoon, and nothing else (It's also sometimes coined as an "animated cartoon"), but nontheless, family guy clone, justice league, legend of korra, etc etc, they're all "cartoons", not anime. Korra is the closest thing to an "anime" we'll ever get. If american authors, production companies, and artists came together to start producing more stuff like Korra, then maybe the term "anime" will eventually (and I mean in an impossibly large way) earn its way into the american cartoon industry as a term that's acceptable to use to refer to the development of animated series, aka "American Anime".

Cartoons on netflix do not fucking count as anime. Also I don't have some evil agenda against the rich elite jews either, I simply don't think they deserve to own what they own, and act how they act when they're as hated as they are.
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>Netflix tries to get into anime
>makes a Netflix original
>MEGATOKYO

FRED-CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
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>>101270335

what?

I thought Japanese HD broadcast used higher bitrate
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>>101273265
You go back to tumblr or whatever shithole you come from, you miserable wannabe.
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What is this thread even about?
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>>101273520
Hey, magical girls with tactical gear is always good.
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>>101266780
Yeah...I know...
Can you imagine however, the flood of faggotry, newfaggotry, normalfaggotry, and shitposting / thread derailment, and "why do u guise act like this, stop acting elite, why is x/y anime bad, why is streaming bad, u guys are assholes" - tier threads being made due to netflix crossing into territories it doesn't fucking belong in? Imagine the amount of anime available now, and then triple, no, even quadruple that amount and then make it not only easily accessible to normalfags, but also include commercials, and advertisements indicating such, and those commercials and advertisements being AIMED at / towards those of whom otherwise would have never known about any of the shows / never even knew netflix existed / never knew there was a large portion of netflix that dealt with anime / deals exclusively with anime? Your average netflix user does NOT use it to watch anime, regardless of what anyone ITT says. People, by word of mouth, finding out that netflix has all the new episodes from every season - or has acquired the licensing rights from tons of production companies in japan (this is assuming netflix actually manages to enter the market at all) to legally air anime on netflix, would NOT go over well in /a/. That'd be like announcing that normalfaggotry is acceptable.
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>>101270335
>Japanese FTA REALLY a shit (13mbit 1080i until you like it, progressive not an option.)
Sometimes it's even non-square pixel shit, 1440x1080i which a tv will stretch to 1920x1080i but should be properly ivtc'd to 1280x720p
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>>101273916
>demanding downscales

Properly IVTC'd 1440x1080i would be 1440x1080p.
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Television doesn't have a future once old people and nips die off. This generation in the west watches less hours of TV in a week than the average person watched a day 30 years ago
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>>101270445
He should fuck off to rebbit not /pol/.
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>>101270997
_No_
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>>101273768
Sounds like sunday mornings on /a/
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>>101273382
I actually like Space Dandy a lot more than most stuff I'm watch right now, with the exception of the 2cours.
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>>101273432
I didn't say cartoons are anime. I said I'd rather see Netflix support the American animation industry instead of fund anime. I read the article about Hulu's original programming in 2014, and it was awful, the 2 cartoons they had were shitty family guy clones. The other stuff looked awful too.
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Better start pirating hard if this is the case.
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Does anybody really use Netflix? I mean, don't you have to pay for it and shit like that or is there some common way everyone is getting it for free.
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>>101273382

Moe is already mainstream in Japan and it has only brought out shitty 'moe' shows.
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>>101276705
>Moe is already mainstream in Japan
No it isn't you /v/tarded fuck.
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>>101276973

Yes it is you retard. Please tell me how many years you've spent living in Japan.

Get with the times you idiot, 'Otaku' shit is trendy there just like 'Nerd culture' is in the west.

Why the fuck do you think Bakemonogatari sold so well? Do you really think that otaku just materialized out of nowhere?

http://ace-ch.net/articles/12832.html

http://blog.livedoor.jp/dqnplus/archives/1625168.html
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>>101277488
Normalfags like Monogatari for its DEEP wordplay. Anything that sells above an IS had normalfags influences buying it.
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>>101277596

Normalfags like Monogatari, K-ON, Anohana et al because they want to be 'otaku' and think that by eating this shit up they become so.

Were you there at the K-ON movie showings in Japan? What about the Madoka ones? And how about Strike Witches or Nanoha? Didn't fucking think so, because I was and I can tell you that the crowds were not full of 'otaku'.
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>>101258489
Courage to tell a lie.
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I don't even know what NetFlix is.
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>>101260860
Brace yourself for S2.
I'm fucking hyped for the lesbo scene
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>>101255997
Ika Musume is only dubbed.
I didn't bother to check other titles.
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I was waiting for the image to finish loading. Then I read the filename.
Jesus Christ, how absolutely horrifying.
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>>101272760
>You'd probably kill yourselves because you only watch anime because you want to be a special snowflake.
>speak Kaji
Not like I haven't heard this kind of assumptions about /a/, but it's still silly to accuse others of watching niche cartoons for the sake of being unique.



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