What anime have rape as an important plot point?
Are you saying you don't like rape?
Kill la Kill
Oh woops spoilers
>Shoko won the election
>Saki won the erection
huh? I was asking for anime where rape was part of the plot
I wish they played the rape card in S2.
Shoko-Saki catfight would have been delicious.
>implying it was even rape
Kasura's rape wasn't really a plot point.
It plays into it somewhat.
But good point, the VN, somewhat plays into it a bit more.
Yeah, it's just kinda there in the anime so Kasura can suffer more.
Hamdo a shit.
Was she actually raped? It's been years and I don't really remember anymore.
It was pretty much rape by Japanese standards.
One says yes.
The other says no.
One keeps going.
Pretty sure it was rape.
I don't really remember but doesn't Shigurui?
So I take it the guy wanted to and the scene got dark and shit but everything afterwards is more indicative of nothing happening.
If she was, I probably would have remembered more rage, but school days is usually characterized by the nice boat reactions.
Ima soko ni iru boku
>The other says no.
Pretty meaningless words when you just give in without any struggle. That's not rape, that's seduction.
Rape is never an important plot point.
it should be.
my ideal non-H rape based anime would have a chubby girl who gets picked on a lot meets a guy whose nice to her for once, but he just blackmails her into being his sex slave and tells her no one else will ever find her attractive like he does.
This. Rape babies and everything.
Why would you want such a premise to be non-H?
Damn, I didn't remember the ribbon part.
Karate Shokoushi Kohinata Minoru
it's more fun that way and is likely to be better written than just a 2d skin flick.
Giving in without a struggle?
You mean giving in to the stronger man?
Yeah because she could totally struggle against the stronger guy.
One says yes, you say no, they keep going. Still very much rape, dont try to sugarcoat it.
the beginning part
>You mean giving in to the stronger man?
If you didn't actually struggle, whether that struggle was futile or not, who's to say you didn't actually want it?
Because you dont need to be a sex game or hentai to have a sexual situation(violent like rape or not) be an important plot point or thematical exploration subject. Its an interesting subject to explore thematically, you dont need it to be fap material.
Wow damn, I really didn't remember that beginning part at all. Well that clears it.
reducing it to pure fap material would waste any opportunities to actually explore such themes in a serious way.
So let me get this straight:
You are a skinny guy.
You are with a friend, aquaintance whos a bigger much stronger guy.
He gets all touchy.
You tell him to quit that shit.
He keeps going and forces himself upon you.
You are horrified, paralized and know it is futile to struggle because he IS much stronger and bigger than you. This sint about you being able to kick him in the balls or actually struggl, he has you pinned down while he touches you.
He fucks you.
Its called resignation anon. Resignation does not equal aceptation nor does it equal the act being consensual. If you disagree with this then I cant continue discusing this with you since you are clearly set on blaming the victim instead of the attacker and there is no wall of text that will persuade you otherwise.
And its honestly a waste of both our times.
Yeah so thats why I said you dont need it to be fap material and am conused why the anon was confused about the premise being non-h.
>Resignation does not equal aceptation nor does it equal the act being consensual.
this is why your Father will always be ashamed of you
Well not the one you posted, since they didn't do anything with it and forgot it even happened in S2.
If thats the best counter-argument you can come up with then I guess you forfeited the debate. Thank you anon.
She's a lewd slut who held his fucking hand, how is that not consensual? The only one who got raped here was Haruto.
That wouldn't happen to me because even if I can't win the battle, my dignity is at least worth trying.
And yes, if you just resign yourself without, it's pretty much consent, unless the person actually threatens you.
Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
This, they could have just made it a normal bite scene and it wouldn't have changed a thing
>ctrl+f yosuga no sora
You people disappoint me
I've been thinking about this for a while now but what good could a rape scene do? Is it just a "forced" means of giving a female character some sort of character development assuming they follow her change of character after the event?
We arent talking about "what ifs" that is what happened. Its funny how people always say "in that situation theres no way I wouldnt do *that*" haing never experienced the situation.
Well, if you insist on that mentality then we cant really continue the argument since you clearly are set on actually believing that if you dont fight back its the same as saying "yes I want this to happen" when the other party is clearly in a position of power. I cant force my worldview down your throat and neither can you. So theres that anon, shame we cant see eye-to-eye.
it'd make a decent premise:
>chubby chick: waaa! why can't I get a BF?
>handsome senpai: I like you, but I'm the only one who ever will cause ONLY I CAN appreciate you for who you truly are. Everyone else thinks you're a fat disgusting cow, except ME of course.
>chubby chick: o-okay...
And on top of that, is it just a cheap way of getting some depth in that character? Is rape even a good way of delivering depth?
if you don't at least put up a fight against someone who hasn't even threatened you, you can't just claim rape right afterwards because you didn't like it.
And yet that's what a lot of women do.
There's a shoujo manga pretty much like that that ended recently.
Sakura´s rape in the Fate series isnt so much a plot point that gets explored so much so as a "we have sakura prisoner we are harming her" to force Karia to do shit and to give Sakura a "dark and tragic past" that makes her a magical mcguffin girl. I think worm rape was used more for the impact rather than it being meaningful to be honest.
The Yosuga no Sora rape only seemed to affect the sister. Sora was quite eager to continue where they left off after a few years. That whole scene is handled rather weirdly in the series.
Which one was ef?
>since they didn't do anything with it and forgot it even happened in S2.
Considering Haruto remembers t clearly and acts and makes decision even because of that, I would say they didn't forget it.
Rape doesn't add depth. It's one of the few backstories/developments that requires absolutely zero depth, that's why it's used. All you need is a setting where males exist in any capacity, have the rape happen under any circumstances since rape just happens for no reason and then you have a sympathetic backstory than can explain any sort of character trait that you want without actually explaining anything at all.
You dont have to put up a fight to make it clear that you dont want it. As soon as you say "No" thats enough. This isnt rocket science. There isnt a gray point. Dont try to aply your fucking "but I´d put up a fight in this hypothetical imagined situation SURELY everyone else would do exactly the same as me, if they dont do what I´d do they are wrong!" retarded viewpoint as a fucking blanket argument. Get your head out of your ass.
They just remembered it as "something bad" rather than it specifically being an act of rape, that's the problem. Basically, >>101247971
hand holding is consent, anon.
>yosuga no sora
Reverse rape is best rape
I think I saw a poll once, of all the most commonly held fetishes, and reverse rape was something like second, after lolis and I think futa.
So why the hell is there no supply for this? If this were capitilism we'd be swimming in reverse rape.
I agree with you and was expecting more, but no, a bit wouldn't be the same because he already tried to bite someone (Inuzuka and Takahi).
Honestly I was expecting more, but for anime standards I think the way they used it is "OK". Even Berserk didn't focus a lot on the rape, it was just that scene.
I remember only Tsukihime having the personality of a character based on the consequences of the rape, and it is not an example of stellar writing.
Pochamani. It's still ongoing actually.
Probably because you were searching "reverse rape" rather than "femdom"
Yeah its quite the cheap tactic to add depth without actually writing anything. Like "was raped" instantly makes a character deep.
Its way more interesting when they use something thats not rape and make it a metaphor for rape. Like forcibly turning someone into a vampire or something like that.
Are there any animes or mangas that use a scene and make it metaphors for rape (in a non-erotic and non-comedic way)?
Thats a fucking OLD show wow. Fucking weird too.
Whats the scene(s?) in question?
Angel's Egg. If you follow the theory that the guy stealing the egg was a metaphor or symbolism for him stealing her innocence. Just some of the many theories I've read for that movie.
Off the top of my head there's the three boys that find the alien and go after the main girl.
And then you can read the whole alien and girl relationship as a metaphor for abuse. It's been a while but last I heard that was one of the more popular interpretations.
Isnt that series like 4 episodes long? Is it an OVA?
OVA is like 4 eps. The manga is a lot longer.
Full Metal Alchemist 2003 and Fushigi Yugi.
Do they both end with all of them horribly dead/traumatized ?
Or was that just an OVA thing?
Madoka's sequel movie just did this. I found it fitting.
No idea. Anime only faggot.
I only know that the manga exists and that it goes beyond what's covered in the OVA.
>implying Saki was raped
>implying it wasn't Haruto