Is this an accurate depiction of evangelion?
It's an accurate depiction of Rebuild
>garbage fan fiction trying to rape a loved, well established character
No. The character on the right doesn't even exist.
I don't see any shallow Christian symbolism, though
Well, they had to do something to keep themselves busy while Shinji was in a coma.
More like this.
It is an accurate depiction of love
the sanke trying to convince eve to eat the forbidden fruit
Almost, you just need to move Mari's hands a little more upwards and you will have it right.
An accurate depiction of your lesbian mothers and your sinful childhood, yes.
>alternate love interest for Shinji
>she's kind of like a spy but not really
I think I remember somebody like that
Had the same name as the fruit that God gave to Jews while wandering aimlessly in the desert
I fucking love the last post, really, it takes smalls quotes from a gigantic interview and posts then completely out of order and context (The first one for example only talks about her on 2.0).
Nigger do you want me to post the complete CRC about her and how after 15 drafts they didn't know what the fuck to do with the character?
And what is there to talk about her in 3.0? She is just fucking there eating screen-time with no relevance to the plot
If you can't figure out how to make a character relevant after 15 drafts you need a new team of writers.
Or maybe you don't need the characters but the executive staff are pressuring you to put him in to boost sales
If executive staff says jump you say how high. It's just how it goes and isn't at all unusual. It's the writers job to make it work.
What kind of consumerist brain-dead idiot are you?
Accurate depiction of what's still good in Rebuild.
Make mari an angel like Kaworu. Except that she's there to seduce Asuka while Kaworu seduces Shinji.
The kind that understands the production cycle of media apparently. If you want full creative control you fund it out of your own pocket otherwise you'e going to be working for someone.
Rebuild is nothing like that! Asuka has DFC
the rebuild yes
You are quoting Tsurumaki, the guy who said "We just used Christian symbolism to boost our sales"
Think about it for a minute Anon (And while you are at it, read the whole CRC interview)
But seriously Mari is way too similar to Kaworu, just look at the eyes
But they're not red.
It's the shape anon and those eyelashes too.
Because Anno sweating bullets trying to explain why Mari is in Rebuild was really convincing.
And really you don't even need to read the CRC to see how weak of a character Mari is.
Anno is always sweating bullets.
Without the context of the original series Mari is about as characterized as the rest of the Rebuild cast.
And that makes her a shit character, so what's your point? That the rest of the cast have the luxury of NGE?
The sooner this Mari experiment is over the better, and it wouldn't be the first experiment
>Whole series revolved around the distance between the children's world and the adult's world.
>Adds a new child character and asks for his character design to heavily focus on maturity.
>Character is literally a kid that seems to know as much as any adult about what is going on.
Don't be obnoxious Anon, you can say she is poorly executed, but there is a clear and interesting point here.
My point is Rebuild is badly written.
>but there is a clear and interesting point here.
No there isn't. Since all the adult behave like brain-dead children there is no point.
So Evanons, how much is Sakura Trick going to affect Rebuild?
Who gives a fuck
To be sincere all of Mari's early designs looks like something that came out from a Yuri manga, if they don't go Asuka route with her I'm going to be pissed.
And wow, just noticed those two upper ones where she looks like Gendo turned into a cute girl
>if they don't go Asuka route with her I'm going to be pissed.
Your Yuri-goggles are way to tight
Every single scene is Mari/Asuka kissing.
/u/ please, the only thing you have is a flimsy as fuck pin and a Mari who never even exits her Eva and will probably just die in it
Actually it may not be as unlikely as you think. I don't believe there will be anything close to yuri, but something like Pic related was clearly on the table at some point
Mari is my favorite pilot, I know, she doesn't even have a character, but having no character is better than having a shitty one.
A lot of things were "on the table" a lot of things were scraped because they didn't work
Mari is a failed character, just like Mana, she will get her death-scene and that will be the last of her
>all that mad
It's gonna happen and you can't stop it.
It would have been funny if this scene was left in the final 2.0, considering how many TTGL-ish moments it already had.
>being this much of a deluded /u/-fag
It's completely different from the Dance Like You Want to Win scenes.
mari is interesting as a foil to asuka
and rebuild craziness is more interesting than word-for-word the anime but prettier looking
is that gnr making out with unit 01? man 2.0 could have been so much better
That's "Asuka Strikes" not "Both of you Dance like you want to win"
What? That's from the episode we meet Asuka.
>as a foil to asuka
Because...she calls her princes while Asuka calls her glasses?
That's weak as shit
m8, did you even watch Evangelion?
Who's that slut on the right?
Eva has always been homo, why is everyone so surprised by 3.0?
>gays doing historical revisionism
>don't give a fuck about a characters quality as long as they can ship them
Why am I not surprised
There's a difference between a ship and an actual canon pairing.
>thinking Kaworu Shinji is a canon pairing
You got a lot of philosophical ground to cover before you can make that assumption. You can start with Agape
Carl isn't god, though.
Carl was a sexually frustrated autist I can give you that
No. Asuka isn't that busty.
Which episode is this from?
Research purposes, etc.
I never said it was a conventional relationship.
Kaworu's to Shinji can be argued to stem from Agape, but Shinji's feelings for Kaworu are directly stated by Anno to be based on Freud's take on the Ego Ideal.
Nevertheless, they both possess romantic feeling for each other. It's canon.
Episode 8: Asuka Strikes
>they both possess romantic feeling for each other. It's canon.
You have no valid argument to support this other than your wishful fanwanking. Anno has never said anything about them being canon in regards to relationship other than Kaworu being Shinji's ideal self. That does not equate to romantic feelings.
Eva is now just gay propoganda.
Kawoshin and Mariasu
And Rei has her clones.
>Kaworu's to Shinji can be argued to stem from Agape
>Freud's take on the Ego Ideal
>they both possess romantic feeling for each other
Contradicting yourself much? As I said you have a lot of philosophical hurdles in front of you
MariAsu can't work outside of friendship because Mari herself ships LAS
>Anno has never said anything about them being canon
Did you miss the entire fact the theme song to 3.33 is called "Kindred Spirits" and plays during the most emotional Kaworu and Shinji moment?
You don't have to like it, that's for sure. But Kawoshin is Anno's OTP, we all know this by now. We're only one step away from watching Anno jerk right off into are faces about it at this point.
I want Mari to be revealed as Shinji and Asuka's daughter just so I can see all of the adorable fanart of young Mari and her parents that will come out of it.
Aren't we talking about NGE
Because Rebuild is a whole different story, with a multitude of its own problems
>not posting glorious Soryu
>Shinji says he loves Kaworu in both episode 24 + 25
>Sees Kaworu when getting tanged, a role given to only the romantic interest of said person getting tanged based on the other characters in EoE
>Kaworu represents the words 'I love you' in his heart
>Anno's words in 1996 JUNE interview:
"I wanted to make him someone that could be loved by anyone, an incredibly good person. Almost as though, by the time Shinji saw him, there was nothing he could do but get a complex."
We don't know much on Kaworu's end, whether Adam/Tabris truly understands the concept of love is still a mystery. So, you may have a point on his side. Still, Ishida's interview suggests..:
"Even if they talk about different things, the feelings Kaworu has for Ikari Shinji… they won’t change. I knew the world was different this time, but, on top of that, I was worried about how to best approach Ikari Shinji this time so that everyone would understand that."
Either way, my argument that they are canon still stands. You can only really argue it is one-sided from Shinji, then again, Eva is not a romance. Shipping/romance is not the point of Eva, this is the closest we'll get for the MC.
Anon's so moe.
>Sees Kaworu when getting tanged
Man Kaworu had some nice tits.
>We don't know much on Kaworu's end, whether Adam/Tabris truly understands the concept of love is still a mystery.
Again contradicting your own argument with the evidence you present.
Again everything in there can be interpreted as Agape
>Shipping/romance is not the point of Eva
Except it's the reason NGE is even happening. You know the chief motivator behind all of Gendo's actions
The level of adorable is already way too high, but notoriously there is more Mari cuddling child Asuka than the contrary.
How is this a contradiction?
Based on the official definition of romantic love, their feelings for each other can both be categorized as such.
I miss Soryu
Shinji's so WIDE
She does too
>You can only really argue it is one-sided from Shinji
Sure does sound that way.
Even the quotes you posted stated that Kaworu's feelings were a mystery. Keep in mind that Kaworu didn't understand humans that well to begin with. For all you know, it could've been sympathy, which is also a fanwank, but that doesn't make your argument any more valid that it's canon.
The only canon relationships in NGE were Yui/Gendo and Misato/Kaji.
You know that Mari will be the one fighting the MP evas on final, right? NGE was already horrifying enough with Asuka and her mom getting rekt, do you truly want to add a daughter to the mix?
>>101238117 meant to reply to >>101237720
Canonically, Asuka is stuck with the piece of garbage known as Shinji Ikari at the end of instrumentality.
Protip: Asuka wins
>Asuka is stuck with the piece of garbage known as Shinji Ikari at the end of instrumentality.
This is a no bully zone. anon
Rei transformed into Kaworu. Shinji saw Kaworu, cried and smiled for the first time in the movie. Kaworu inserted the spear into Unit 01's core, bringing Shinji into instrumentality. Shinji closed his eyes (in what is described in EoE's script as Shinji being in ecstasy), only to see the image of breasts (Which I presume to be Yui's?) moments later, which serves only to further emphasize the 'going back to the womb' connotation of instrumentality. You have no argument there and you know it.
>can be interpreted as Agape
Shinji to Kaworu, Agape does not apply.
You didn't contradict any of the evidence I presented for that, so that point still stands.
Hence why I added you can still argue it is one-sided from Shinji, but it is still canon since Kaworu will reciprocate his feelings even if he doesn't understand it personally.
>Except it's the reason NGE is even happening.
SEELE is not motivated by romance
Adam/Lilith/Angels are not motivated by romance
Shinji/Rei/Asuka are not motivated by romance in the first half of the series
Gendo being 'truly' in love with Yui is also up for debate. We see him sleeping around with Ritsuko and her mom so willingly, and Gendo's intentions for marrying Yui are all fishy to say the least.
>father is a rapist
Again, I never denied that it could be one-sided from Shinji.
From the beginning I was just debating against an anon who said Kaworu x Shinji was just a mere ship, except it happens in the show so it is inaccurate to classify it as such.
>but it is still canon since Kaworu will reciprocate his feelings even if he doesn't understand it personally.
There's your fanwanking again. As you have brought up, Anno said Kaworu's feelings are mystery, not whether he would return them or not. It could go any other way. Your personal analysis and wishful predictions are not canon.
>You have no argument there and you know it.
Um yes I do and you just acknowledged it. Shinji saw breasts when he was tanged, not Kaworu
>Shinji to Kaworu, Agape does not apply.
Yes it does you dumb fuck. Agape goes both ways. And it's reinforced by the idea that Kaworu is his Ego ideal.
>Gendo being 'truly' in love with Yui is also up for debate
No it's not. The only time he shows ANY emotion is when Rei is in danger since she is a Yui proxy. People thought he married Yui out of interest because they saw him as a cold-hearted asshole, which wasn't really the case. He was just afraid of getting hurt
And if you really want to doubt Gendo's relationship with Yui then you have to doubt Shinji's relationship with Kaworu since all his sexual fantasies are with Rei, Asuka and Misato
Point is saying they are a canon couple when there is so much unclear about their relationships is bollocks and you know it.
It IS a ship.
The only way it could be canon is if the producer has said so, or if it is openly shown in the show that they are indeed a couple. Neither has happened, and Anno has even stated that Kaworu is ambiguous. Your post >>101237720 already contradicts your own argument. You've even mentioned the possibility of it being one-sided as well. One-sided relationships doesn't sound too canon to me.
Kawoshin can easily be listed as a ship.
Would "Resets the World" be a better euphemism
Because it was going to happen one way or the other
She was just giving Asuka shit. Mari likes to push her buttons.
Ok for the sake of argument lets say that is correct
Care to explain this scene then?
She knows she can handle herself.
What does that have to do with my question?
That whole phrase was very odd, why does Asuka need to be saved?
How many times we have to go through this.
Because she became bitter and distant
Shinji did not protect her smile
It's always the same image.
Till we die or moot dies.
She's them to help Asuka because she knows she'll be fine?
Why is Asuka so perfect?
Because emotionally vulnerable yet dominant
Funny because both of those are flaws, mentally stable and affable are the ideal.
>Funny because both of those are flaws
To you maybe