the style of animation in anime has never been better than it is currently
these are truly the glory days
Style yeah sure
What about the actual animation? Or total lack of it rather.
Its so bad its sad, so many panning shots, so many close up faces with only the lips moving
Isn't that the case for everything?
I miss the 90s style a lot
Its nostalgia but I dont care
movies, music, television shows, fashion and the general appearance of women have all been at a steady decline since the 1990s
90s was the golden era of anime.
The majority of older anime was worse for that sort of shit.
Try watching from the 70s or 80s.
Same as ever.
I watched Key the Metal Idol recently and only then did i Have an appreciation for the old style
not saying Key was very good, it was alot of nonsequitur and bullshit TWEEST, but eh, that and the GitS movie
There's not really a reason to prefer an old or new style I think, each has its own sense of appeal
All those changes can be attributed to the advent of digital production tools with vectors and necessity for animation in 720/ 1080/ 4K.
Noses aren't focal points in character design, it never really has been.
Eyes and hair have always been the most defining feature. Plenty of characters still have noses when shown from profile view anyway.
It's just direct, head-on shots where noses are omitted.
Damn Key dragged soooooo much.
I like the 90s style more, but more variety's opened up over time.
As for animation quality, it seems that it's stayed the same, if not marginally got better and worse, depending on the studio. However as of late it also seems that a few people have been wanting better looking stills a more than good animation or more frames, though not to say they don't want it all. If anything, the opinions and demands from the audience has changed more.
Id rather not think about it, it had so much potential
I like to think as a general case the "newer style" as depicted in the picture errs towards minimalism, which in general means "details" end up being left up to a person's imagination
The reason characters with less detail end up looking cuter or prettier is because the observer can fit them into his or her preferences, compare to 0083 Stardust memory, where everyone looks leathery when pissed, but the proportions and shading define the faces very well, and first timers will often call all the 0083 characters ugly
and by picture i mean op's not mines
I enjoy the 1990s style sometimes.
And here we see the nostalgiafag in its natural habitat. Notice how it isn't even capapble of perceiving and reflecting on its embarrasing behaviour to the point of accurately fitting an overused buzzword on 4chan.
If you were born in 86 or later, you have no right to talk about the 90s. They were shit, by the way.
'10 look pretty cute.
OP knows, I love the newest style.
Movies and television shows are debatable.
Music got worse and the other two went to shit.
Not mentioned, but western animation and animated movies are also shit now, because they are just CG shit and uncreative garbage.
> Music got worse and the other two went to shit.
If you can't find any contemporary musicians that suit your taste you aren't searching hard enough.
Pretty good insight there.
But as for animation, I'm getting the feeling that aside from reaction images, screencaps from older anime would look less suited to be screencappable compared to newer stuff.
There's too much music to really say it's gone to shit or the opposite. Maybe for specific genres, but there's probably four digits worth of them too.
Western animation, I do agree with you there, though there's still rough gems here and there.
Why do Gundam mech designs look so "generic"? I'm aware that they are one of the pioneers in the mech genre, but they look pretty ugly compared to, say Zone of the Enders or Star Driver's designs.
How much "old anime" have you even watched? To make judgements like that you'd have to at least watch as much "old anime" as you have "new anime." I think old anime has much better direction and shot composition compared to new anime. I'm using old to mean pre-digital. Also if you wanna see the most garbage looking anime look at low to medium budget early digital stuff. It looks worse than low budget stuff from the 70s.
Pre-digital stuff had much better shading, colors, and lighting. Most digital stuff uses terrible looking photoshop lighting/gradients. The one thing I can't understand getting praised for its look is Fate/Zero. The character design is bland as fuck, the effects are terrible, and the animation doesn't really make up for those.
Maybe because Gundam invented that style of mech? The ones you're praising are meant to have a more elegant design too. Gundam was designed to look blockier. If you want more older slim/elegant designs look at the stuff from the guy who did Five Star Stories.
I miss 90s punk rock and RnB.
I'm not saying that older anime looks worse or bad, it's just that approached the animation process itself differently, and what I said was specifically towards and frames that were drawn to be seen played with others, not still shots and the like. Animation techniques and stuff, basically.
Same as ever.
Ever watched Lain? You can fill up at least an hour with footage of Lain just staring into the camera. Not even talking.
Good digital colouring surpasses good cel colouring any time. Stuff like Blood TLV, My Neighbour The Yamadas, Hyouka, FLCL look fantastic and they use digital colouring and effects. The advent of digital colouring allows for subtler gradients and more accurate colours, along with better compositing. It may lose the finer details in the line art, but the Ken'ichi Konishi's work as an animation director in Yamadas, Nobita's Dinosaur, FMA Milos, and more recently, Kaguyahime shows it is still possible to retain that "rough" line art in digital animation.
I remember that scene and the shamisen one, and I remember how cheap was the animation in the 80% of the series.
I think a lot of styles have their merits and I don't think what you associate with old styles necessarily have to be old styles, if that makes sense.
Please. 80s was the golden era of anime, everyone knows it, except for the Americans.
That practically defines anime as a medium for the past 4 decades.
8s for ever. High quality drawings, animation and plots.
>8s* for ever.
>Good digital colouring surpasses good cel colouring any time.
This is the dumbest thing I've ever read on /a/.
In the 80s, there were tons of different styles, and the animation was generally very good.
Look at these, for example. They are
better drawn and animated than your average anime today.
This anime was so fun and cute.
Damn, during the 80s anime were so mainstream in Italy. And most of them were amazing. The only bad thing was Italian adaptation, except fo some cases.
During the 80s anime weren't about cute girls doing cute things, and the characters didn't have the sameface syndrome. And most of them were for all the family, not for perverts.
>except fo* some cases.
And all the meisaku were masterpieces.
This girl was so cute.
I miss the 80s so bad.
I was 12 in the 90s and pop music was absolute shit back then.
During the 80s Japan wasn't in a depression
Glory days were mid 2000s when digital finally started looking alright and there was more variation in style.
Yeah, I know it. I was only saying that the 80s were the true golden era of anime, not the 90s.
I guess some American speak like this about the 90s because anime started to become popular in the US mainly during the 90s, with stuff like Sailor Moon (shit).
Very different situation from Italy, where they started to be popular since the end of the 70s, and my country imported tons of series that Americans don't even know.
Man, this series was wonderful.
Keep deluding yourself.
Can you tell me what mecha shows are below Shoushitsu and Bakemonogatari?
Look good to me.
The one under Haruhi is Break Blade and pretty good. I'm not sure about the other one. I want to say it's Unicorn but I don't know.
Thanks. The second one does look like Gundam, but it looks too new to be one of the ones I haven't watched, so you're probably right.
Damn, I need to catch up with the manga.
Please, you know nothing about Japanese animation. Oh, the first little girl is Yu Morisawa from Creamy Mami. Its popularity was huge in Italy and it's a show for little girls, if you think that's a fanservice show you are a moron.
It's obviously a joke, though.
I need to catch up with the manga AND finish the OVAs, don't feel too bad.
I feared you were serious.
Anyway, I loved the couple YuxToshio so much. And I was only 4 years old when I watched it for the first time (in the 1985). This scene...when he finds out Yui was Creamy. It was so emotional...
>Noses aren't focal points in character design, it never really has been.
Bullshit. Pic related. Noses are very important for giving personality to a face.
No, wait, I'm not the one who posted the image.
I'm not sure about that poster, but the image is obviously a joke.
>..when he finds out Yui* was Creamy
Yu, sorry for the typo.
>Noses aren't focal points in character design, it never really has been.
Bullshit, that pic you posted doesn't represent the huge variety of art style in old Japanese animation, where characters had noses in the majority of the cases unlike today.
I hope thye do the 90's shading with today's Kyoani animation.
It's Gundam Unicorn.
Japan isn't full of jews.
Do you have the Aku no Hana one?
No. Bitching about AnH's rotoscoping shit was funny until episode 3 or 4 or so aired.
The videogame industry has been completely destroyed by American AAA Marketing blitzes. So glad the west didn't steal anime from Japan like they did with vidya, or else we'd be in a much more sorry state.
70s best. Fuck everything else.
I actually like the 70s and 80s best in this chart, too. I'd like to see a comeback of the 70s style with today's technology, if you know what I mean.
And here the pic is noseless.
Modern reditions of 90's style is GOAT. I.E. Nazo no Kanojo X
I'll trade some QUALITY to get shading back.
Japan's economy was booming in the 80s and raised the budgets on shows then. That's partially why anime in the 80s and into the 90s had better animation. More resources.
>In the 80s, there were tons of different styles, and the animation was generally very good.
>They are better drawn and animated than your average anime today.
Not true, now there is more variety than ever, all your examples are generic shojo of the time which aren't popular anymore so you are annoyed because of that, learn to watch different types of show and learn how wrong you are, you are the female version of the /m/echafags.
I had completely forgotten about her. My sister loved that one.
Generic shoujo really seems to have died as an anime genre, shounen is still as popular as ever for obvious reasons but the vast majority of female-oriented shows these days seem to be aimed at fujoshi. Magical girl seems to be the only genre left that still aims itself at the mainstream younger girl demographic and even then most of them are developed with their adult otaku markets in mind as well.
>better colour variety and accuracy is inferior
No anon, you're dumb.