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So in what order should I watch Jojo's Bizarre Adventure or does /a/ prefer me to stick with the manga instead?
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In order, fool
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>>101194299
At least specify. Broadcast order?
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>>101194254
You watch the part 1 and 2 anime, then wait for the part 3 anime which is 2 more weeks from now. After that you read the manga. I would advise you to stay away from the OVA because it misses some parts from the manga.
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>>101194327
Broadcast is chronological. Read Part 1 and 2, then watch the 2012 anime, then read part 3, wait for SDC to be released in April and then read 4->
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>>101194352
shit sorry, part 3 was in april not february
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What the hell order did you think it was in?
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>>101194254
So how exactly does Jotaro's hat work? It's always fused with his hair. Any explanation for this?
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Count from one to eight and there you go.
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>>101194511
There is no "back" part on his hat
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>>101194511
It just works.
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>>101194588
Well then how does it stay on?
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>>101194254
Just don't watch the OVAs, they kinda ruin part3.
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>>101194865
Just don't think about it man

It didn't even come off on the sea
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>>101194254
Watch the 2012 anime, read part 3 onward, get fucking hyped for part 3 anime in April.
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>>101194254
Stick with the manga.
Recommended order is Part 1, then Part 7, then the Dead Man's Questions spin-off then the first half of Part 5, then Parts 2-4, then Persona 3, then the second half of Part 5, then Part 6 and, finally, Part 8.
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>>101195645
>skipping Portable Ops
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What order can there even be? Watch the anime, then wait for the next one or switch to manga. All the parts are in chronological order anyway.
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>>101194254
Watch the 2012 anime. It adapts the first two parts of the manga and does it really well. The Part 3 anime starts in April.
Or just read the manga.
Two advices:
don't watch the old OVAs, at least until you've read Part 3.
read Deadman's Questions after Part 4.
>>101194511
The back part of the hat is torn, so his hair sticks out through the tears. Apparently it's a part of the delinquent stereotype that Jotaro's is heavily based on.
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>>101196365
>The back part of the hat is torn, so his hair sticks out through the tears.
But there are no tearing lines, it just goes from hat into hair without any sign of hat stopping.
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>>101195645
Why no love for part 8?
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>>101194511
His hat existed there but he erases the time where the hat existed so his hair grows the way they were supposed to grow anyway and go through the hat but since the hat is there they fuse with it, but since the time they were fusing doesn't exist they are both there.
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>>101196596
Fuck you King Crimson, start making sense already.
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>>101196740
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Part 1 -> Part 2 -> Part 3 -> Part 4 -> Part 5 -> Part 6 -> Part 7 -> Part 8
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPxXvrjpxCk

GET HYPED
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>>101199081
>joestar why you take homo picture of me?

mai dik
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Read the manga in the release order... why would you read it any other way? What the fuck?

You can watch the anime for parts 1-2 instead if you want, but I'd read the manga too anyway. The adaption was good but the manga just has this charm to it you can't adapt.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ye1KrThuJ2s
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>what order should i read it in

GUYS
WHAT ORDER SHOULD I EAT THIS HAMBURGER?
OH
I GOT IT
I EAT THE BOTTOM BREAD
AND HOLD THE BEEF WITH MY HANDS
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>>101199081
A proper trailer when?
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>THERE IS A ORANGUTANG, HOW SUSPICIOUS
>OROAROAROAOROAROAORAOR
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>>101199326
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWeae36ka9s
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>>101194254
part 1 then part2 then part 3 then part 4, then read part 4 again because is the best, then skip part 5 because is shit, then part 6 , then part 7, then part 8
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On a different topic:

>reading through part 5
>Giorno is terribly boring despite how much I want to like him
>Gold Experience's abilities are bullshit
>King Crimson's even more so
>give zero fucks about any of the characters
>no interest in story whatsoever
>every fight is filled with ass pulls

Good god how am I going to get through this.
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>>101200243
I liked Part 5.

It had a lot of good fights.

Also, if you think there's bullshit going on right now, wait until you get to the ending.
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>>101200243
Fights in the middle section are some of the best in the whole JoJo. Think about the train one (Grateful Dead - Beach Boy) or the Venice ones (White Album - King Crimson's first).

The story also gets much more interesting after a certain point. Don't even start with "asspulls" because it's just new elements.
Also, the whole final segment is simply epic and awe-ispiring.

The only reason why King Crimson's perceived as total bullshit is because you might have some preconcepts about it. Even if you don't understand it fully it's still fun and "boss-like" (in the sense of "absolute" and overpowered).

Gold Experience is more problematic indeed, but so is Giorno.
I'd like to point out that he's just as reckless and genius-like as most other JoJos, it just doesn't show (like, he plans his tactics but doesn't explain them making fun of his enemy - opposite of Joseph).

Also, part5 is overall a great improvement over part3. It loses a lot on characters (part5's are way worse) but gains a more articulated story, more epicness and meaning through the end, and way better fights. Totally worth it in my opinion.
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>>101200243
at least it's got the best stand ever sticky fingers
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>>101200243

>Gold Experience's abilities are bullshit
>Not the best Stand in za warudo
>giving zero fuck about Narancia and Buccelatti
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>>101200394
>>101200609
I'll admit, the fight on the train was pretty good. And yes, in some ways the plot structure is better than the monster-of-the-week formula of part 3 (personally I didn't care for part 3's story either), but because the story is so character-driven (i.e. "we have to uncover's this character's identity while protecting this other character) it's hard to care if the characters themselves aren't engaging.

>>101200704
It's one of the few stands I like so far in part 5. Many of them either seem too gimmicky or completely ridiculous.

>>101200719
GE can do a lot with its abilities (as we've seen) but sometimes it just feels completely overpowered. For instance, how would turning an amulet into a ladybug let it track the enemy? Wasn't it previously demonstrated that the object would return to the owner (i.e. when Narancia's shoe was turned into a fly and it would try to return to Narancia)? So shouldn't the amulet just return to Giorno? Also the fact that GE can turn objects into missing body parts/flesh and hence letting him heal everything is a bit of a stretch.

Bruno (and maybe Mista) are pretty much the only characters I even remotely like.

Despite everything I've said, I'll still try to finish part 5. Just hoping part 7 is as glorious as I've heard it to be.
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7>4>2>6>3=1=5
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>>101201740
Well at least it's some constructive criticism and not the usual "I don't understand shit" rant.

I can relate to you on the story issue, its structure is way better than part3 but main characters (plot-related, so I mean Trish/Boss) are not engaging enough.

But on Gold Experience and Giorno there's much to be said.
I had the same feeling about its "too widely applicable" power, it was pulled too far too many times, for instance the regeneration part.
However, what must be considered the center and focus of Gold Experience is its connection to "life" as a concept.

It doesn't matter if one can find some kind of holes in its applications, like the "return to owner" you mentioned.
I could reply that this time the owner was Giorno, thus Gold Experence's mind altogether, thus the amulet could have been "infused" with an intention, a goal, and not just *mindlessly* follow its natural course of returning to the owner (with this I want to point out that it's fiction and it's way out of common physics or logic, of course you'll find some holes sooner or later, but that's a matter of suspension of disbelief).

The central point of Gold Experience is Life, and it's not just "giving life". It is somewhat reminescent of the Ripple/Hamon from part1-2, just think about that amulet (acting as a sensor, a radar detecting life and vibrating according to it - same as Zeppeli's wine) or the plant-growing power. Heck, the first time we see it in action it gives life to a frog - and a frog also shows for the first time Hamon powers, with Zeppeli.

Giorno basically has two fathers, which is not to be taken literally (although it could) but as a concept, it both embodies stand power/spirituality (you'll see) and a more physic, nature/life-related origin.

It doesn't manage to stand out enough compared to other JoJos and other stands, but that's precisely because Giorno and GE are less "finite" and more ambitious as a project.
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>>101202168
7>4>6>3>2=5>1
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>>101194865
Like one of these I guess.
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>>101200719
Watch, I'm going to improve Bruno with one word.
Bruno Zepelli Buccellati
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>>101202806
So fucking true.
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>>101202806
This. I know it's not canon, but I consider Bruno to be a descendant of the Zeppeli family.
He's Italian and he acts like a true Zeppeli until the very end, so it's not impossible.

By the way, Sticky Fingers has one of my favorite stand designs. It looks like some cool superhero.
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>>101200243

I just sucked it up and powered through it. I didn't bother reading the epilogue. But it worked out when Stone Ocean turned out to be my second favorite part behind Steel Ball Run
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>>101202168

7>6>4>2>3>1>5
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>>101202582
I guess I never looked at it that way. Sometimes I get the feeling that Araki is trying to create a greater overarching theme within each part, but it always seems like either I'm completely oblivious to it or it's too subtle.
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>>101203752
>shitting on part5
>not reading the epilogue
Well that explains a lot.
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What's your favorite volume cover?
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>>101203847

But I already knew about it. It's just

>muh fate
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>>101204118
Knowing about it is completely different from reading it. One might complain about its placing (regard the whole part5 - it's at the very end, while explaining the beginning of all), but the exposition is just exquisite and very thoughtful.

Also, it's not "muh fate" in a childish way. It's 1) an explanation of events, and "fate" as a concept is translated as "fate" as a power, and this whole story is about supernatural powers, 2) it's strictly related to the Arrow itself, so it's completely relevant and not some random-autism.
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>>101196365
>Deadman's Questions
What is this?
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>>101204390
Kira's life as a ghost.
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I know I brought this upon myself for reading Part 3 after knowing about Za Warudo and Ore ga Jikan o Tometa, but does anyone else think the Jotaro-Dio fight ended kind of abruptly?
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>>101204390
A 2-chapter story that serves as a postscript to Part 4.
You can find it in "Under Execution, Under Jailbreak", it should be in the ArakiCollection mediafire.
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>>101203832
>a greater overarching theme within each part
That's precisely it. I can't say if he really does manage it - part5 for example had some major flaws, like Giorno himself - but you get the feeling of many recurring themes and, more importantly, even many recurring elements (character-types, powers, situations etc) which 1) gets better and more complicated as the story goes on, 2) are felt "stronger" thanks to their legacy with the past.

Some of the biggest, episode-related ones I found in part5 coming from part3 are (I don't know how far in you are, so I hope I won't spoil too much):

>Black Sabbath = Alexi and his shadow
[Alexi had one, in Black Sabbath the shadows are many, so the danger and deepness are much greater]
>Soft Machine = Strength
[both adventures are on a ship, both reveal the ship itself to be the focal/most dangerous element]
>Little Feet = Lovers
[becoming smaller, this time having to deal with many objects and places]
>Man in the Mirror = Hanged Man
[both mirror-related; Polnareff says "there's no way for a world IN the mirror to exists!"... well, 2 parts later, mirrors get their 3rd dimension. As I said, situations get more complex and deep]
>The Grateful Dead = Justice
[both aging/death related, both involving many innocents]
>White Album = Pet Shop
[just the ice-relation here, really]
>King Crimson = The World
[no need to specify. Or actually, it might depend on traslation, but he *does* say Dio's catchphrase "time return to its flow"]
>Clash = Geb
[both related to water puddles, but Clash is in a much more complicated environment]
>Metallica = Bastet
[both magnet related, and this time metal is not only from the mundane/common objects]
Epitaph = Thoth
[both predicts the future; the improvement here is that while Oingo and Boingo were totally passive, here Epitaph is actively used to change destiny - or rather, re-interpret it]

As you can see, it's all ever-linked and ever-evolving, just like one of JoJo's main themes, evolution.
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How would have part 2 Joseph fared against part 3 Dio provided that he knew about Za Warudo?
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>>101205685
Depends whether it's Joseph or Oldseph.
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>>101205763
>part 2 Joseph
We do see how Dio vs Oldseph goes.
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>>101204346
A lot of people won't bother trying to understand the themes of each part and just want instant gratification. That's a reason for parts like 5 and 6, which have more nuanced themes, being less popular (at least here in /a/, that is). In Vento Aureo, the concepts of "fate" and "conscience" passed unnoticed for many of them, just like what "community" meant in Diamond is Unbreakable or "gravity" in Stone Ocean, for example. Every character in part 5 was born under challenging circumstances (fate), Giorno and Diavolo being the main examples (with the former being successful and the latter failing), and it was by their own free will (conscience) that they were able to overcome such circumstances, changing other people's lives and their own. Those concepts made up the whole meaning behind Giorno's sun symbolism, waking up as Sleeping Slaves of Destiny and Scolippi's imagery of Jesus that we see in the epilogue, but all some readers saw was simply "muh fate" and went on to read part 6.

>>101205050
>part5 for example had some major flaws, like Giorno himself
I always see that being posted here, but never an actual argument for it. How is Giorno a major flaw exactly? Saying he was "boring" is a shallow criticism from people who were expecting another jokester as the main character, like Joseph or Josuke were, which wouldn't fit the setting of part 5 at all. The only possibly flaw I see with Giorno's character is how he sometimes stayed out of spotlight and let Bruno lead as the figurehead of Passione, but even that still fits his role as someone who's supposed to become a mob boss. So every time I read that Giorno flawed I imagine some guy watching The Godfather in his room and thinking to himself that Michael Corleone is boring and Al Pacino is a sameface.
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>>101205685
He'd somehow trick Dio into thinking there's an opening in Joseph's defense only for it to be distraction from ripple attack coming from behind. He used to be genius tactician.
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>>101200719
>>101200243
>forgetting about based mista
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>>101206306
The problem with Giorno is that he wasn't simply boring, he was combination of Jonathan and Jotaro but specifically of their worst parts. He had unnatural kindness and consideration of Jonathan without his pompous honorable attitude and at the same time he had emotionless coldness of Jotaro without his badass no-nonsense Eastwood attitude. Araki didn't try to make something different he tried to mix two random components without realizing how terrible they would go together. Giorno isn't just boring, he's a combination of two bad habits of previous JoJos without any good counterbalance to them.
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>>101206306
Beautiful insight on Vento Aureo, thanks a lot for your input.

I'm the anon you were quoting btw: I can't reply you properly on Giorno's flaws right now because I've got urgent matters to attend to, but it's basically just as you said: not being in the spotlight and not empathising enough his genious.

I think I can read beyond all that and find out Giorno's true meaning and hidden aspects, but the fact the he was, indeed, more "hidden" and less "he's so cool" surely was a different experience compared to Jotaro or Josuke.

I mean, I kinda understand him, but he does *feel* less than other JoJos, even while not *being* less. It's a matter of direction rather than of contet.
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>>101206306
The godfather consists of 2 movies, VentoAreola is a story told in 20 volumes

It would be like if tony soprano had a dull personality, and they expected us to enjoy him for 6 seasons
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Watch the anime, is great
Then read the manga
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>>101206601
>without realizing how terrible they would go together
>a combination of two bad habits of previous JoJos without any good counterbalance to them
But that's is just a negative interpretation of his character. You could easily say the opposite, that he has Dio's ambition and Jonathan's golden heart, and how they make him an unique character. That would be Araki's view of a virtuous ruler, someone who unites the best of the most opposing personalities in this series for a greater good.
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>>101206902
when you combine fire and ice you end up with lukewarm water
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>>101206902
And those are bad things, Dio's ambitions made him a boring cliche villain, but they were counterbalanced by him being absolutely evil to the point of basking in his own evilness, he was good because he took everything about standards on writing villains and overblown it. And Jonathan's golden heart what made him a boring cliche protagonist, which even Araki disliked, but his unreasonable kindness was counterbalanced by the same thing that made Dio Jonathan was as Speedwagon put it "real gentleman" if there ever was something for him to do he approached it with maximum valor and it was amplified by the overall tone and art-style. For Giorno Araki scaled those over-the-top personalities back to borign cliche ones and then mixed, which just didn't work for a personality. You end up with Giorno just coming along with the story doing sorta nice things and ending up on top because he was the only left with protagonist's rights for a prize, he doesn't feel like he's fighting for his ambition when he's supposed to and neither he feels like he's fighting for the good of others when he has to, he's just doing things that are expected of him to do without any particular motivation.
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Holy shit. I'm reading the part where Valentine uses D4C to fuck with Diego and Wekapipo, and I have no idea what's going on. And people complain about King Crimson?
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>>101207394
At least Valentines makes sense once they explain it, I still dont get King Crimson
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>>101202806
>Yatta!
>mfw
Why is Koyasu so based?
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>>101207433

Loss of memory for everyone except for him. There.
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Half-way through Part 4 at the moment.

Why is this so much better than part 3?

So far it's been one part introducing a concept, and the next one showing the interesting stuff with it.

So far it's 4>2>1>3
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>>101204041
>actually reading the manga
What? Why?
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>>101208185
I hope you are reading the Invincible Trio scans.
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I'm up to part 6, but for me so far
2>>>3>4>1>5
No matter how far I go I still hate stands, fighting in 2 was ingenious and perfectly logical, while with stands it's always "actually I can also do this" taking turns until Araki is tired and it's good guy's turn.
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>>101208197
Fuck off.
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>>101208472
>that image
Wow, that's so homophobic. Is that real?
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I'm about half way through part 5 right now and for it it's goes like this.
4>2>5>1>3
Part 3 was just so boring. The only thing it had going for it was the fights. The main characters were rather dull compared to the villains.
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>>101208317
Of course.

I got somewhat worried when I got to the "what a beautiful Duwang" part, but I realized they just had left that one as a joke.
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>mfw Wekapipos death
Poor guy had no idea what was going on
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>>101208633
I did the same thing hahaha.
The last 3 volumes won't be out for a couple more months.
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>>101207129
Coincidentally the most vital component of life.

>>101207317
>but they were counterbalanced by him being absolutely evil
Were they? I don't think reemphasizing the same cliched traits ad infinitum made Dio any less generic. What really made him was his relationship with Jonathan, but that never countered the fact that he was a generic villain. The same could be said about Jonathan.

Also, I disagree with what you said about Giorno not fighting for his ambition. If anyone was fighting to the extremes to win battles it was him and he was the first JoJo with a motivation solely of his own. Jotaro, for example, was much shallower, even though he had a very good reason to fight. The badass no-nonsense Eastwood attitude you mentioned only made him easier to grasp, but not really a motivated character.
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>>101208532
>Part 3 was just so boring.
I know, I still don't understand why it's so popular. Aside from the 2 last fights, it barely had some moments I'd really call good.
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>>101208767
>Both D'Arby fights
>Petshop vs Iggy
>Vanilla Ice fight
>ZZ ending Part 3 early
>Yellow Temperance
>Mariah
>Oingo and Boingo shenanigans
>Hol Horse in general
It's not even in my top 3 parts, but that's a lie.
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>>101208767
>I still don't understand why it's so popular
DIO's dick-sucking lips.
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>>101199326
>Star Platinum's punches sounding like fucking gunshots
So beautiful
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>>101208927
The problem is every subsequent part had better fights, better stands and better characters. I loved the tarot cards and the Egyptian gods, though.
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>>101209020
Shit, meant to link to >>101199081
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>>101208927
>Both D'Arby fights
I liked the first one, not so much the second one.

>Petshop vs Iggy
Fine.

>Vanilla Ice fight
I'm already counting it, pretty much everything after Vanilla Ice is introduced is awesome.

>ZZ ending Part 3 early
It's a 2-panel joke.

>Yellow Temperance
The one that fights Jotaro in Hong Kong? What was good about it?

>Mariah
Who?

>Oingo and Boingo shenanigans
>Hol Horse in general
These are silly, but I'll give them to you that they were interesting.
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>Who?
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>>101209336
>Who
leave
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>>101209425
Oh, the magnetism chick? I liked the power but the "fight" could have been so much more.

Also you didn't mention one of the other moments I actually liked, which was Hanged Man.
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>hurr part 1 then part 2 then part 3 durr
they have names you fucking retards
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>>101209858
What a dumb thing to complain about. Fuck off.
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>>101209858
Using names when telling someone what order to read them in can be confusing to new readers.

It's simpler and more modular for them.
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>>101209858
>Hey guy who doesn't know the series, read Phantom Blood, Battle Tendency, Stardust Crusaders, Diamond is Unbreakable, Vento Aureo, Stone Ocean, Steel Ball Run, JoJolion in that order.
>Not just start at 1 and keep going

No anon you are the retards.
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>>101210520
An anon summed it up nicely yesterday.

>start at the start
>keep reading if you like what you're reading.
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>>101210576
This will be challenging, going to need to find more paper but I'll give it a shot, I'm no artist though.
>>101210579
Do you want to kill me?
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>>101209969
>>101210251
>>101210520
I'm just saying, maybe he downloaded a torrent that doesn't tell him that Phantom Blood is the first part and so on.
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>>101196399

His hat falls off in Part 3 at some point, dingus.
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>>101210815
Wikipedia

There are like two series ever where I've had to ask someone to explain the watch/read order. 90% of the time appropriate information can be gained by googling or checking the wikipedia page
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>>101210677
Really bad idea. The start of Jojo is horrible, on both quality and style. I started to read it once, like 12 years ago, but grew disgusted very fast. Later I watched the OVA and was amazed and bared with the garbage until it got amazing.
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>>101210968
If OP was the kind to google his info, he wouldn't have had to ask anything here. There's nothing informative about /a/, other than the japan learning thread maybe
I'm curious, which series did you need that info for?
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>>101211099
Then you're a faggot that can't stand old manga.

The start of Jojo is fine, and more than anything else, well-paced. It slows down after Zeppeli is introduced, but by that time you're probably invested in the characters already.
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>>101210968
>two series ever
Which ones anon?
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>>101211235
Higurashi

And arguably I was being too much of a lazy fag about it. But it took me a few minutes to figure it out since 2-3 of the manga serializations are the same story told from different viewpoints. So it got a bit confusing as to which to read first.
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>>101211304
I can stand old manga just fine, it's just that the start of Jojo has barely anything to do with what actually makes the series good. It takes forever for Hamon to appear in the story, before that it's just mean-natured stuff about Dio being a monster.
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What if JoJolion Rohan's a girl
>tsundere for Josuke
>lesbian for Yasuho
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>>101211425
>not reading the VN

>>101211442
>before that it's just mean-natured stuff about Dio being a monster.
And that's interesting in its own right, don't be a faggot. The iconic start it's the reason I like Phantom Blood so much.
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>>101207394
> the part where Valentine uses D4C to fuck with Diego and Wekapipo, and I have no idea what's going on.
You can forget the "who shot Johnny" mindfuck and the "making several worlds exist in one location" thing. It's never mentioned again and the mechanics of his stand change very soon.
Valentine's power is moving between parallel dimensions under certain conditions that are probably explained a bit later, so I won't spoil it to you.

The stand I have most problems with is Diver Down and some nuances of Made in Heaven
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>4chan stand

>/a/non
>Stand: Daft Punk
>Turns everything feminine

>/v/irgin
>Stand: Rage against the Machine
>Manipulates density of projectiles

>/m/
>Stand: Monster Movie
>transform any mechanical machine into mobile suit. Mass and volume is still accounted.

>/mu/
>Stand: In the Airplane over the Seas
>Digs a deep hole

>/jp/
>Stand: Solid State Survivor
>Hides in any small spaces

>/pol/
>Stand: Black Bar Mizvah
>Strengthens surrounding stands equivalent to how much money is around the stand user

>/mlp/
>Stand: I get wet
>Calls any equine within the stand user's vicinity

>/3/
>Stand: Black Banshee
>Turns any 2D into 3D

>/vr/
>Stand: Protomen
>Pixelate the design of an object

>/vp/oreon
>Stand: Butter-Fly
>Steals and analyzes the stand. Limited vicinity; the stolen stand returns to its user when the stand user is too far.

>/g/eeks
>Stand: Venetian Snares
>Program one line to any being

>[s4s]hitposters
>Stand: Hip to be Square
>Everytime a living object does the action twice in a row, everyone else around will divert their attention to him.

>/r9k/
>Stand: The Way You Make Me Feel
>Mutes anyone speaking the same word or phrase repeatedly

>d/ic/ks
>Stand: The Caretaker
>Turns anything symmetrical
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>>101212098
>The stand I have most problems with is Diver Down
What is difficult to understand about Diver Down being able to do everything?
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>>101211576
Oh shit, I just realized how tumblr infested JoJo threads are.
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>>101194865
>star platinum is holding it in place all the time
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>>101209728
10/10 would vote for
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>josuke's hair always stays in place and never gets messy
>crazy diamond can't fix up josuke or any of his body parts
>josuke's hair is a wig and josuke's actually bald
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>>101202806
CEASAR did have brothers and sisters
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>>101211099
It was the opposite for me. I watched the OVA(2000 one), and thought that it was kinda mediocre, but had potential.
Then a good person recommended me the manga and said that it was incomparably better than the anime.
I followed the advice and wasn't disappointed at all.
> it's just that the start of Jojo has barely anything to do with what actually makes the series good
I agree, that's why we tell people to wait at least until Part 2 before deciding to drop it.
I still like Part 1 though.
>>101211425
>Higurashi
Read the 4 episodes of the original Higurashi VN, then read the 4 episodes of Higurashi Kai. The order for the rest isn't important.
Am I wrong?
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>>101213148
>The order for the rest isn't important.
What's the rest? Rei?

And I'm not him, but I just remembered that I did have to google the order for reading Kai, since I only knew Matsuribayashi was the last one.

Just as an exercise in memory, it did go Onikakushi, Watanagashi, Tatarigoroshi, Himatsubushi, Tsumihoroboshi, Meakashi, Minagoroshi, Matsuribayashi right?
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>>101212220
>/a/non
>Stand: Daft Punk
>Turns everything feminine
"Our bodies and our stands are still friggin' girls!"
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>>101213483
>>101212220
I'm okay with Daft Punk, but I think making everything flatter would be more representative of /a/.
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>>101208737
Aren't there only 2 volumes left now?

Still, I don't know if I'll be able to wait for them, since I have ASB and I'm eager to play it already.
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>>101213483
Does any stand have tits?
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>>101199730
what the fuck i liked part 5.

i liked fucking all of it
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>>101213904
Yes, every female stand.
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>>101213979
How can a stand be female?
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>>101214014
When the user is female for example.
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>>101214014
How can it not be?
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>>101214153
So that's how stands are born. Stand babies.
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>>101213904
You can argue about Stone Free and Kiss, but Cinderella and Spice Girl clearly have them.
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>>101214153
Best Girl.
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>>101195645
>skipping persona 1 and 2
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>filename
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>>101215004
Bowie Kira will always be best kira.
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>>101215214
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>>101215265
How did Diavolo change his hair so fast, again?
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>>101215265
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>>101215449
He used KC to erase the time it took for his hair to grow
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>>101215460
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>>101215214
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>>101215832
Whose blood is that?
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>>101216040
Why are they drinking their allies' stands?
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>>101216146
They're drinking cocktails representing their dead friends' stands. Look at their faces.
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>>101210576
Progress so far

Not so good with the facial or background details
Pardon the image quality, only have terrible cellphone camera
Gonna try maybe inking/shading it in a bit
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>>101215265
>>101215214
>>101215004
>>101215460
>>101215716
No love for no Stand users? Where's muh Cars and Whamu
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How do you pronounce Pucci?
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>>101218198
エンリコ・プッチ
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>>101218198
プッチ
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>>101218198
Pucci
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>>101218343
>>101218508
>>101218366
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>>101218716
>doesn't get Italian pronunciation
>doesn't know katakana
You have no business here.
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>>101218716
>>101219286
It never crossed my mind that he hadn't understood the katakana.
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>>101218716
>>101218198
punch-he
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>>101219460
This.
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Can somebody explain to me what Rohan did with the baby in his fight against the rock paper scissors kid?

>>101219460
Nope.
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-01-30/sould-out-group-to-disband-in-april-after-11-years.
This gives me a feeling so complicated.
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>>101219582
Say it ain't so, Joe.
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how many slaves do you think jhonny owned before he became a cool guy?
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>>101219774
I don't think you know what year the Steel Ball Run race took place.
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>>101210579
this pic reminds me of how good araki is at universe building
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>>101219582
>Hopes of Soul'D Out doing SDC's OP crushed

Though Diggy-Mo is fine on his own, it's mostly his music that fits Jojo anyway.
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why is eastern jojo fanart so good?
specially compared to western art
>eastern
>hey guys look how funny this is, k-on characters looking buff like the pillar men
>western
>HEY GUISE LOOK AT THIS FANART OF DIO FUCKING JHONATHAN IN THE ASS WHILE CATCHING A COLD, HES ALSO BLACK NOW
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>>101219460
>>101218198
>americans are this dumb

you know gucci?
like that but with a p
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>>101219946
>Hopes of Soul'D Out doing SDC's OP crushed
When was this a thing?
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>>101220086
don't forget sofahnny maymays
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>>101220376
Well they did a song for the 2007 PB movie. Despite it being shit, the song is excellent.

Also 2 character's names from SBR are based on their songs.
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>>101220539
Thanks for the info.
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>>101194353
This guy knows his shit
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>>101220685
Why would he wait to watch SDC to read DIU? Why not read as far as he can and watch the anime as it comes out?

He can probably catch up with Jojolion and watch the 2012 series before the SDC anime starts.
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>>101221084
It's wrong to go through all of Jojo in 2 months.
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>>101221151
Why? It's not like he'd be rushing it, and my point is that there's no reason to not keep reading aniways.
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>>101221270
>reading 28 years of manga in 2 months isn't rushing it
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>>101221338
that comes out to what, 2 volumes a day?
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>>101221338
It sounds a lot when you say that, but its pretty much about 4 volumes a day, or a part a week.
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>>101221675
You're right. Have some Jaja.
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>>101216499
> nigger Josuke
duuude
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI4IxGK4vRI
:_;
w-why
its... its beautiful

WHY IS IT SO GOOD?
IT SHOULDNT
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>>101222575
It's amusing, but it doesn't really mesh that well. I find myself wanting to pursue just one of the songs by itself.
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Did /a/ ever sing Bloody Stream?
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>>101222784
the thing is that smashmouth is one of the worst things ever
but it fits with any remix ever
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>>101222907
Please use proper capitalization and punctuation.
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>>101222964
Please use my dik up your ass and mouth.
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Why should I start reading Jojo ?
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>>101223721
Why not?
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>>101223721
Why do you think I have to convince you? Do whatever the fuck you want.
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>>101215449
Bonus: it's Polnareff's second time.
In part3 the first time we see the villain (Dio) clearly and with his stand is with Polnareff, and it happens on a stair.
Here the positions are reversed (Polnareff's on top) but there are still 1) the villain revelation and 2) the usage of stairs to show a confusing trait of his power.
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>>101223721
because you need a distraction from your empty, directionless life
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>Hey, Jotaro, where's Star Platinum?
>Hm? oh, we had a... uh... fight
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>>101224493
Star Platinum nooooo
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>only 2 volumes left of Part 4
Invincible Trio can't deliver soon enough.
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>>101195645
Dude why the fuck are you skipping Hokuto no Ken? Do you want him to understand JoJo or not?
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I ordered a custom poster made for this volume cover of SBR. It came in a few hours ago. Its 20 x 36 and the quality is fantastic, I'm so fucking happy about it.
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>>101227032

Where'd you order it from? I've thought about getting that exact cover as a poster too
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>>101227663
http://www.postermywall.com/index.php/p/poster-maker
I used this site, but if you don't set the picture as a back round instead of adding the photo to a blank poster, it will automatically make every picture like a fourth of the poster size no matter what, like this. Also the text at the very bottom will be cut off, so your better off erasing it in Photoshop or Paint. And you might need to edit the size quality a bit, but that shouldn't be to troublesome.

Incidentally its in California and I don't know if it does international orders, but it might. I just recommend shelling out the extra money for a faster shipping, because waiting a full week for it to arrive was torture. 20 x 36 should be about $30, and 1-2 day shipping should make it like $35-40, which isn't to bad.
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>>101227953

Thanks
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>>101219582
B-but what if their last song WILL be SC's OP?
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>>101228146
step it up nigger
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>>101208472
Tell him to eat shit, Johnny.
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>>101196474
Too many testicles.
That shit ain't moe.
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>>101230033
This.
It's not fucking Dragonball, Araki, it's JoJo.
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>>101230432
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>>101230033
>Gappy
>Not the moest JoJo

Shit not even Johnny can't compare to him.
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>>101221732
>Carlos Venezuela
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>tfw roundabout wont be the ed of part 3
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>>101212220
Write one for /tv/
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>>101229723
Tell him yourself.
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>>101230928
>/tv/
>who's bad
>makes people fall in love with the stand user, all the people who fell in love fight each other for the user
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>>101230968
EAT SHIT ASSHOLE
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>>101231240
Fall of your horse!
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>>101231179
>makes people fall in love with the stand user's feet, all the people who fell in love fight each other for the user

Fix that for you buddy
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You should watch anime
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>>101231179
>/tv/
>General Threat D
>Makes groups of people forget their original intentions in grouping up in favour of bickering among themselves leading to them turning on themselves eventually
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I still haven't read past the start of Part 4 because the scan quality was atrocious a few years ago.
Did anyone ever reupload them, or should I try and tolerate it?
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>>101234317
Part 4 has been redone by the Invincible Trio all the way up to BtD and the final battle. Their scan quality is excellent, though I feel their translation didn't catch a lot of the great moments behind Part 4 that you get in the Japanese version. Still tonnes better than Duwang.
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>>101234580
I've only read the DUWANG translation and it's still my favorite part.

Is that bad?
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>>101235942
Not really. It's easy enough to get the general idea of the story from Duwang. I'd still recommend rereading the retranslation, or even better, learning the language and reading it the way it's meant to be read.
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>>101236203
>learning the language and reading it the way it's meant to be read.
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>>101234580
>a lot of the great moments
Care to post some examples?

By the way, I'm about to end Part 4, but I know nothing of the status of Part 5 in regards to translations and scans. How is it? Is it worth it to try plow through it in Japanese or does the English read fine?

To understand my level of Japanese, I can read things like Akame ga Kill and D-Frag in a reasonable timeframe.
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>>101219582
shit nigga I was worried
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How far is that one group with the rescans of part 3? I could bare with the piss yellow scans but if there's something better I'd like to read that.
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>>101237845
There were only about 10 volumes pre final DIO volumes last I checked left to do
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>>101237272
They translated Kira's "Dame dame dame dame dame" as "No, no, no, no, no!" or something.

Then again, that's the age old issue of JoJo translation. Do you leave the "MUDAMUDA" untranslated or do you go for a less iconic but actually translated version? Which reminds me of Part 5's current English fan translation. It was done in part from the Chinese version, so you miss out on a lot of the gratuitous Italian that Araki liked to throw in there (Volavolavolavolare via, and DI MOLTO! DI MOLTO!, for example). It's certainly not difficult to read in Japanese by any stretch of the imagination, as the comic was being written for a younger audience. Most kanji are usually provided with readings.

>>101237845
Last I heard, they quit because of "respect" for Viz wanting to republish online. Which is funny, because I always figured they were doing it because Viz was total shit.
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>>101238147
>Viz publishing online
Why can't they just reprint the thing, I much rather have physical copies.
Guess I'll just have to deal with piss yellow.
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>>101230807
>tfw they use an even better Yes song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51oPKLSuyQY
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>>101238240
I can tell you that it's lovely to have physical copies of JoJo in my native language. They're slowly releasing SBR in French just now, too, which is great. It's kind of disappointing that I'll never have hard copies of Part 4 in French, but at least I have my Golden Wind.
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>>101238363
>best Yes song
>not 5 Percent of Nothing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO7k-Mn948s
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>>101238463
When I checked amazon all volumes where there but a few and they cost like 30 bucks when they weren't 7.99, wish I could just pick up the whole series without having to pay stupid amounts for a few volumes.
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>>101238532
That's what you get for being a late-adopter.
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>>101238147
>in part from the Chinese version
Fuck that shit.

> It's certainly not difficult to read in Japanese by any stretch of the imagination
I tried to read the Stardust Crusaders part with the shit scans in Japanese, but I went really slowly and the thing was uninteresting anyways, so I returned to the English version.

From this comparison image, I had to I had to rely on the retranslation for 牢獄、礼拝堂 and the names of the painters. I could have googled them, but it's the same thing.
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>>101238532
Go to Japan, I kept finding JoJo volumes for 3 bucks a piece. Probably cheaper in bulk, too.

I didn't buy them because I was broke as fuck by then. I did by ASB though.
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>>101239049
>3 bucks a piece
Once I learn moon and go to Japan I'm going to buy a ton of manga.
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>>101199676
If this comes to be the actual ED, I would have an orgasm on the spot
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>>101239158
I know. If I hadn't been afraid of Airlplane fares, I'd probably have spent some 500 bucks on books alone.
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>>101239049
>by
buy
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>>101238964
Get a Japanese dictionary. Super useful.
As for the katakana names, that's both the hardest and easiest part of reading manga like this. If you know the words, then it's a piece of cake. If you don't, then prepare to sit around getting all worked up over nothing.
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>>101239049
I was thinking about buying Part 5 to reread it in Japanese.
Do you know anything about this one? http://honto.jp/netstore/pd-book_02535342.html
It was released in 2005 and is collected in 10 volumes 313 pages each, compared to 17 189-page volumes of the original 90s release.
What interests me is the print and paper quality, because I don't want to waste over 600 yen on a volume of toilet paper.
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Aaand I just realized i am fugged. I watched the ovas years ago without knowing shit about JoJo.
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>>101240493
Sorry, I don't know about different versions or paper quality, since I didn't buy anything after all.

I do remember seeing different versions of some volumes, with the originals being rarer. That might have been another cause for me not to buy them actually.
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>>101239473
>Get a Japanese dictionary. Super useful.
I leave a thread open, and use quick reply to help myself using rikaichan.

>As for the katakana names
I know, sometimes you get it immediately, sometimes it flies over your head until you see it in English or research it.

Still, reading about 20 volumes in Japanese would at least triple what I have read in Japanese since I started. Is the English retranslation too far from finishing?
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>>101241135
>I leave a thread open, and use quick reply to help myself using rikaichan.
I just realized I didn't explain this well.

I write the kanji I don't know on quick-reply and then I use rikaichan.

I also have some apps on my smartphone, but they're a little more cumbersome than just writing on my PC.
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>>101240571
I'm sure you're not the only one.
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>>101206601
I personally didn't love part 5, but I think that Giorno isn't supposed to be the protagonist in the way that he is like all the other protagonists (in the spotlight, the story is about him and him alone, etc)

I found Giorno to be a truly interesting character, because his ambitions were very respectable which no Jojo beforehand had without provocation. Jotaro/Josuke/Joseph would've never done the things they did if the antagonists to oppose them didn't exist. Giorno already had the goal in sight before he knew what he was against. Johnathan is a bit different because Part 1 is a bit different from every other part.

What's more important is the individual characters in their group and how they all strive for different things, some not striving for anything at all, but come together and work together. I think the team component was really important.

To be honest, I didn't care for the pacing of Part 5 at all, but the characters were A+. I've yet to finish reading purple haze feedback, though.

Sorry for the late reply.
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>>101242543
I wish the story was told from Bruno's perspective, with only random glimpses into what Giorno was doing

GioGio's fights weren't even that good. All he did was rehash Crazy Diamond tactics
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>>101240493
I have the RAWS Parts 1-6 if you were interested. It came in a torrent that took forever to download. but I could zip it up and give you a mediafire dl.
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>>101242862
I kind of wish the perspective jumped around from one member to the other, and occasionally Trish. But I don't think Araki has really done that enough for me to remember it..

It might just be me, but I'm bored by most of the fight scenes in Jojo. Probably because I'm more into the characters and ~feelings~ and plot than the actual fighting sequence.
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>>101242923
Thanks, but I already have them.
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>>101243023
Perspective shifts are always when the parts start getting interesting for me. The Lucy Steel shit in SBR was so fucking intense
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I'm pretty sure this has been asked, but does anyone know why Sugita isn't Oldseph in Stardust Crusaders?

>>101242923
I don't have them, and they'd be really appreciated.
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Why is Cream the only stand named after a song and not a band?
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>>101243451
>the only stand named after a song and not a band?

>Crazy Diamond
>Killer Queen
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>>101243449
he doesn't like doing an old man voice and we couldn't wait 50 years
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>>101243451
There are a lot of stands named after songs or albums.
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>>101243451
cream is a band doofus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkae0-TgrRU
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>>101242923
Not him, I'd appreciate that if you're happy with doing it.
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>>101243451
>Why is Cream the only stand named after a song and not a band?
Stands in general are music references, some are even albums. See: Gold Experience
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>>101243519
Actually I think he'd love to be in it, it's just David Productions hate the castings CC2 did even though 99% of it is flawless.
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>>101243519
Didn't he do the last few minutes of the 2012 anime though?
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>>101243497
>>101243552
>>101243624
whoops, I have NOT been reading closely

>>101243583
I thought it was referring to the Wu-Tang Clan one
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>>101243722
Also often abilities are songs too see things like KC's Epitaph
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>>101243722
Or you're lacking on you /mu/ powerlevel.
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>>101243583
>C-Moon wasn't called Crossroads

it would have perfect
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>>101244004
>/mu/
>having taste in music
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>>101244004
>/mu/
>liking dad rock

You just have to know what it is so you know to hate it
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>>101244050
>>101244070
I used it as a stand in for music, I've never actually been there.
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>>101194254
1. Read Jojo volumes 1-5
2. Watch Jojo episodes 1-9
3. Read Jojo volumes 5-12
4. Watch Jojo episodes 9-26
5. Read Jojo volumes 12-28
6. Watch Jojo OVA 8-13, skip the 2001 series.

You won't regret it.
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>>101244366
Look at the mess you're making, you're counting episode 9 and volumes 5 and 12 twice.

I know there's an overlap, but it's just confusing for someone who doesn't know. Plus it's not like you'll leave episode 9 on pause while you read 7 volumes of manga.

Also, I think reading both first parts and then watching the anime from start to finish makes for a better experience.
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>>101243449
>does anyone know why Sugita isn't Oldseph in Stardust Crusaders
Because it fits Oldseph not being Joseph in Stardust Crusaders.
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>>101242923
Are you still here, anon? The torrent would be fine too.
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>>101244366
>OVA 8-13
>They're the only ones on BakaBt
What's up with this, where are 1-7?

OVAs always get me confused.
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>>101245992
>>101244366
Also which subs.
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>>101194254
Anyone have a link of all the Jojo scans?
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Does anybody know if you can get the DLC of ASB if you own the Japanese version using an American PSN account?
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>>101247697
You need to make a Japanese PSN account.

>>101246048
BakaBT has both OVA series. 1-7 should be the OVA series released in 2000, and 8-13 would be 1993.
I'm watching the 2000 series right now and the release is kind of shitty, being OGM and having SRT subs.
For the 1993 OVAs, I would probably pick the dual audio one BakaBT has, since it has better audio and a higher resolution. And it isn't a gross hardsubbed release either.
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>>101247046
hahaha
That's pretty damn good
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>>101248255
>You need to make a Japanese PSN account.
Goddammit.
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>>101194254
Read Jojo 1, then 2, then 3.
You are now finished Jojo.
Congratulations.
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>>101247697
US ASB is out for preorder now on clubnamco, will probably release the DLC as well if you can hold on to your money
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>>101249359
I already own the Japanese version though. When's the American version coming out? I might buy a game of the year or complete edition of it to avoid DLC shenanigans.
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>>101248926
If you had added four the bait would have been less obvious.
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I don't get Gyro's gags. I get the shitsurei one, but I don't understand the 7 days a week one.

I don't understand why Gyro goes stupid on Wednesday, makes expresso on Thursday, mixes in the sugar on Friday, drinks on Saturday, and rests on Sunday. Ok, well I get Sunday, but not the rest.
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>>101245094
Hello, sorry my browser crashed and I forgot all about this! I don't know where teh torrent is anymore but I can zip it up!
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>>101254269
Oh, I actually have the torrent, too. I'll upload that first, and then maybe let me know if you're having trouble getting any peers (?) then I can zip it up.

https://www.mediafire.com/?0wvwiyk5i8sdz8s
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>>101202598
The guy next to her tweets
"何言ってるか わからねーと思うが 俺もわからん"
comes from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Jean Pierre Polnareff says
"な… 何を言ってるのか わからねーと思うが おれも何をされたのかわからなかった…"
(You guys think I don't know what am I talking about...
You're right,I don't know what's going on at all.)

See
http://www.geocities.jp/hobby_room_pearl/jump/daiamon/akamaru/-shigeharu02-jojo02.jpg

http://a.mpcdn.net/manga/p/6073/454682/3.jpg
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>>101247046
http://pastebin.com/Zv7N4pGN
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>>101254467
Yeah, I'm getting my usual download speed, thanks anon.
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>>101256492
>Watamote translators got it wrong.
Sasuga.
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>>101243449
>>101243619
>>101245094
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=387575
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>>101256492
Yeah, I also though about Polnareff when I was reading it.
That quote was also used in Robotics;Notes, as well as Rohan's "But I refuse".
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>>101260190
>>101256492
Both are 2ch memes though. I don't know about the Polnareff one, but I'm not sure if だが断る is a JoJo reference.

I mean it could be, but I'm not sure.
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>>101260335
> but I'm not sure if だが断る is a JoJo reference
It is.
http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E3%81%A0%E3%81%8C%E6%96%AD%E3%82%8B
http://dic.pixiv.net/a/%E3%81%A0%E3%81%8C%E6%96%AD%E3%82%8B
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>>101260190
Exactly(その通りでございます)
In a way,(just like Google's PageRank ),number and quality of reference tells how important the content is.
I think quality/quantity of Jojo's quotes indicates it to be a Great Work.
My personal opinion:JOJO>Hokuto no Ken(pic:北斗の拳 イチゴ味)

>>101259996 (off topic,therefore sage)
Tomoko thinks
「も…もしナンパとかされたらどうしよう 知らない人についていくのはさすがにまずいよな」
ナンパ:pick up http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pick+up
"5. Slang To make casual acquaintance with, usually in anticipation of sexual relations."
I think it's differnt from just asking phone number.
知らない人についていく:to go with a stranger
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>>101261913
>JOJO>Hokuto no Ken
I agree.
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I leave for 3 hours and you let the thread die.

>>101261913
I know, a correct translation would be "What if he hits on me? I don't think I should just tag along with an stranger."

>>101262411
I never considered HnK good, anyways.
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>>101261913
I never understood the point of such "colored" chapters. JoJo has some like that too.
It's not much different from ordinary black and white, and it looks rather unappealing, so why waste your effort on that?



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