I wanted to start watching SDF Macross, but I'm unsure about it. I think it's because its kinda different from what I normally watch. I watched about half the first episode so far.
What are your top 5 reasons why I should watch SDF Macross?
Because it's good.
Fuck you, it's not our job to convince you to watch things. If you don't like it just stop.
1. Fuck you I'm not your rec guy but macross is cool so I'll humor you. But I'm still saging.
2. Space jet battles
3. Daedalus attack
4. Cute aliens doing cute protoculture things
5. Skull leader
Because of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3lt8EhTx8o
But really, it's good. Extremely good.
Even if this is actually from the movie
Beautiful kitano circus
Beautiful valkeryes (wait few episodes)
fever dream episode
But would KYUN KYUN KYUN KYUN even it out again.
I'm so sick of minmay at this point. the old lady is a way better girl than she.
the Daedalus attack is one of the most overpowered, absurd, awesome things I've ever seen in anime, not considering TTGL
Then keep watching.
>fever dream episode
That was so great.
I'm like 9 episodes from the end and she just keeps getting worse.
Her and fucking kaifun.
Trust me anon. Trust me.
Do they ever acknowledge the macross as a giant robot?
Then watch Do You Remember Love, it's fucking great.
fuck that sequence made me cry like a bitch when I was a kid and it still does. It's on par or just slightly under EoE's final sequence for me, shit was so damn good
best girl wins
Are you sure? Hayase has been pretty fucking cute with Hikaru while minmay is just all over the place.
But of course Max and Milia are the OTP so far.
Just wait until the timeskip. Then you can wash away your hatred with DYRL.
Because it's actually good and one of the rare examples of a love triangle that's well-written and not contrived?
Plus, there's cool battles. Obligatory.
Watch Robotech instead.
Don't listen to him. Misa is best girl.
What part of "trust me" don't you understand boy?
The ending is one of the most satisfying things I have seen.
O-Okay, just be gentle anon.
This movie is so beautiful that I almost cried.
I think that Macross starts off a bit awkward, but it gets really fucking good once you get a bit of the way into it. Great world/setting development, great plot, things get rolling really well.
Fuck, I wanna watch it again now. I won't lie, the end always gets me.
damn hand painted SDF1, we never see anything like that these years
>tfw no more glorious 100000 tone shading
MILIA STILL THE BEST WAIFU AND NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE IT
I thought Focker was the best waifu.
Max is one of the most overpowered side characters I've ever seen.
That motherfucker got everything from life
I can't believe that it's been 3 decades, and nothing has topped it in terms of mecha action. It's an amazing spectacle, and unlike some other high-budget things of the era, it actually has a good story.
His name is Max Jenius. MAX GENIUS. Do you expect anything less?
There's no way you're 9 episodes from the end then.
YEAH RICK HUNTER IS COOL!!!!!!!
For me the zentradi main fleet just arrived and the original small fleet has decided to fight with the macross.
Ahhh, I should have replied to the other anon.
As other's have said, Macross has a pretty great ending that makes it all worth it.
I'm so nervous about it. What do I watch after DYRL? Zero? 7? Fonteir? Macross Plus again?
Production order. Plus is so good that you might as well watch it again.
7 you will either love or hate.
I personally loved it.
I dunno if I want to see them all though. Are they all great?
Go with broadcast order: DYRL, Plus, 7, Zero, Frontier, AKB0048 (Fucking Kawamori! Where's the 30th anniversary Macross show!?)
You just gotta listen to his song.
They are. Macross is a great saga.
Macross II Lovers again is pretty terrible and isn't part of the Macross canon so watch at your own risk.
I personally love all of Macross except for II which is okay, but it's not accepted my Kawamori since none of the original staff worked on it.
Don't even bother watching Macross II. It has no redeeming factors, outside of some nice animation here and there.
The only one I didn't really like is Zero and II.
The rest of them are among my favorites of all time.
Wasn't he working on a Macross game instead of a series?
Okay, I've never dealt with anything this long before, episode wise.
Robotechx.com pls go
that nigga got the girl he wanted in mid death battle.
How the fuck do you do that?
Teach me Max, teach me your ways.
I'll never be that alpha will I?
Wait though, I didn't mention II but as the other anons said it's shit
I don't even consider it part of Macross
Except a happy marriage. He also has the eternal shame of spawning Miline.
Yeah, Max is fucking awesome. Nigga is literally the best pilot in the known universe, beats his waifu at a videogame and in real combat and then wins her over in a knife fight. They celebrate by tossing babies and later they make the miracle that is Mylene.
At least you got started off on the right foot. Some of us watched Robotech first...
Yes, that was the 30th anniversary thing.
Mylene's just tsundere.
>someone in RL who argued with me and insisted that Robotech came first and then Macross came from it afterwards
It hurt my heart.
Macross II Lovers Again was released after DYRL under the same name, but none of the same staff. Some of it looks like Macross, but it never really feels right and for many it just doesn't work because of this.
SDF Macross is a masterpiece
I'd only watch 7 for her.
Yeah, starting with Macross Plus was a great idea, let me know that SDF was quality even though it's pretty old and looks old too.
I fucking hate him. He's Kaifun 2.0
I remember the horror when the "Macross arc" ended and suddently everything changed. Characters, animations, colors, design, EVERYTHING. I was so mindfucked holy shit. Only years and years later I discovered the truth, it was also difficult as fuck to pinpoint what anime was Macross because all I remembered was "robotsomething" and it didn't fucking help at all to search for "mecha robots" fuck
shh... let me dream.
my dad bought Macross episode 1 on a vhs home from Japan and showed it to me.
I fell in love but never got more for almost 6 years when I saw Robotech on Toonami.
Such suffering. I still find it hilarious that my dad will watch anime like Macross or Hokuto no Ken but Gundam is too weird.
It's okay; it's just not Macross. I enjoyed the music, too. All that synthy 80's pop goodness done by Shiro Sagisu of Eva and Bleach fame.
You don't seem to understand his song.
A kid like you will never understand.
I'm still sorta mixed towards 7 overall but this dude is one of the manliest motherfuckers I've ever seen in anime and it was worth watching for him.
how could anyone actually be this stupid?
Did he think "G-Force" was american too?
fuck that dub, fuck it so hard.
Could be worse, could have watched all of this.
>Gigil using the power of the song to awaken from his slumber
That part was fucking awesome. Manly tears.
Oh god yes. How can two perfect people produce that pink haired thing?
Kaifun was an ass. Basara was an ass with a purpose. A distinctive difference. Also his assery was entertaining to watch.
Didn't they have like seven daughters?
I have a theory that Max pounded Milia too hard and this was the consequence
People really hate Mylene?
Mylene is a miracle of the universe.
>Me: "You mentioned Macross. Do you like it?"
>Him: "Well, I'm a bit biased since I read the original novel first."
>Him: "Robotech! It was a novel and then got turned into an anime. [BABBLE ABOUT NOVEL AND ANIME DIFFERENCES IN ROBOTECH] And then, later on came Macross."
I didn't even know where to begin. In my dumbfoundedness, I forgot Mospeada's name when trying to explain to him what Robotech was.
Mylene is worst Jenius.
Best Jenius is the giant one in the OVA right?
But the entire Jenius family is perfect. It's like saying 1 is less than 1. It doesn't make sense.
That's when you just walk away. I don't even know Robotech still has a fanbase, it cannot be growing – new fans can just watch the Macross BDs.
I still don't understand what passed on their minds when they decided to mix mecha anime together and give birth to that horrible mess.
but she's the best macuros 7 girl
yeah my bad its a screenshot from way back then
>Dons the skin of his enemy to gather food for his people
>Loves and protects his waifu even though she never returns his affections
>Harnesses the power of his enemies song to awaken his true form, teleport across the galaxy and blows up a planet to protect his true love
>Goes out singing like a boss
All Jenius are perfect but some are more perfect than others.
Does Shoji Kawamori get decent beyond Macross? Cause I did not like Aquarion and am finding Nobunaga The Fool a bit lackluster.
I'm pretty sure that Frontier was the last good thing he did unless I'm forgetting something.
his waifu kept screaming and anima spiritia was terribly annoying if not for her tits
>still hating Minmay
Minmay was a young girl who made one or two questionable choices. Meanwhile Hikaru is an asshole to Misa throughout the show and nobody mentions his deeds.
AKB0048 was surprisingly good. Pitty it'll probably never get finished
I love how each Macross connects characters from the past. It's beautiful.
also Minmay gave us delicious 3D idols
AKB0048 is pretty good right up until the ending, but I don't think that counts because it was practically a Macross.
Escaflowne is a thing, but whether you'll like is up for debate.
>you will never have a perfect, giant Zentradi waifu
Here's that shot in HD, by the way.
Which is something Gundam's sloppy chronology never handled well, and Robotech is just 80s rewrite trash that would rather talk about some fucking pilot over the songstress that saved Earth.
I hated Macross 7 but I have to admit the first OP is quite good.
Hikaru is a total retard. Basara had brain problems, but Hikaru was just dumb as a sack of bricks.
>shooping in Sheryl's earrings into the Zero BDs
Misa was best. Rick Hunter was a fucking idiot to not see it immediately.
probably the same logic they had when they made Voltron.
What do you mean? UC ties together pretty nicely.
>SDF Macross OP still stuck in my fucking head
Minmay is fickle and wishy-washy as fuck. Exactly what you DON'T want in a women.
Here, have it sung by Basara:
>tfw I whistle DYRL in the morning while I'm going to work
>mfw I actually love the Robotech OP theme
I'm not sorry.
>Rick Hunter was a fucking idiot
Of course he is, he was in Robotech. Hikaru isn't much better though.
also kissed the cousin, what a slut
>giving Misa the scarf
God, I got so mad at that part. Pounded my desk in rage.
I sing IF WE GET THE TRANSIENT FACTS THEN WE"LL FEEL THE INFO HIGH
>Of course he is, he was in Robotech. Hikaru isn't much better though.
I was referring to both versions, I was just being silly about it.
I'll always have a special place for Robotech, since it was effectively my gateway anime (as bad as that is). Granted, I've sinced watched Macross blah blah blah, but I don't think you can deny that Robotech was probably a gateway of sorts for a lot of people.
>You will never be an ace pilot fighting in a giant space battle while your crush literally sings the enemy into submission.
>You will never watch SDF Macross for the first time ever again
Whoever didn't on /a/ are lucky.
As far as gateway anime go, it could definitely be worse.
SDF Macross is my all-time favorite so while on one hand I'm annoyed at how localization went, at the same time I'm happy that people got to experience a kind of version of it for the first third of whatever Robotech was.
But mostly, that Robotech video game was awesome. I got it as a present before I even knew about the franchise and it definitely made me interested.
>there are people on /a/ who waste their time watching shitty anime instead of masterpieces like macross
>I'm happy that people got to experience a kind of version of it for the first third of whatever Robotech was
But is that worth dooming the series with a retarded legal snarl, so those same people are unable to experience anything beyond the original and Plus?
When I was growing up, I only ever liked the 'Macross Arc' of Robotech. Man was my mind fucked later on when I researched what was going on there.
How did anyone think that was a good idea?
But I'm still glad I got to watch that bastardised piece of shit as my first 'anime'.
you'd be surprised on how many people wouldn't watch stuff like Eva or Macross because there are mechas, or because they think they are "old" and so, shitty.
Yes, I know it was a good introduction, but why do people still hold a place in their heart for Robotech? Why do some people still think Robotech is a superior edit of Macross?
>Those people who hate mecha for no reason.
I will never understand them, and that is why I am fucking glad /m/ exists.
Nah, it was a total disaster. What's done is done, so you might as well look for the silver lining.
wow I feel like a nigger, my first anime was Ox Tales fuck you all watching cool shit
Gundam Wing was my first anime. It's by no means a pefect show, but I love it anyway.
Ah well, I don't think it is superior, but I can remember racing home to see Rick and Lisa. Fuck, it was so cool at the time. Lisa was my waifu before I knew what anime, or a waifu, were.
I know if I never loved it as much, I would've never gotten into anime later on in life. It was looking it up years later and discovering how broken it was that brought me across. Pure nostalgia love for it.
I don't remember the name of the first anime I watched, but I clearly remember that it was a mecha anime with some faggots fighting aliens, and at the end the alien queen dropped a drill-nuke aimed to the center of the Earth. It made me fall in love with mechas, and that love grew even more after I watched Macross.
But mostly, that Robotech video game was awesome.
That one for game boy advance was suprisingly fun.
How can anyone hate mechas?
Wait what is this? Why is it Robotech it looks just like macross and is called macross? I've never seen robotech so I don't know about this mindfuck people keep talking about.
Hating mechs should be classified as a mental disorder or something.
the first season is called Robotech: The Macross saga. that should be your answer.
What is /a/'s opinion of the ADV dub? And what were subfags reaction at the time Minmei's Jap actress was in the dub?
I tried getting into a mecha show that aired on TV when I was younger.
I hated it.
I tried again a few years later with a different show and loved it.
> And what were subfags reaction at the time Minmei's Jap actress was in the dub?
>being a subfag in the late 80s early 90s
It's hard not to be one when that's all you have.
RILL JOO LUB ME TOMOLLOW
I don't understand, why are all the names cheap variations of the original? What is happening?
why don't you just google it?
I was hoping I'd get a biased answer.
Licencing. In the States a series had to be a certain length in order to be picked up to air. Macross wasn't long enough so Robotech was Harmony Gold's way of mashing 3 shows together to sell to a network.
Macross is the first season of Robotech. Really though its not hard to google this.
You know, something more fun than the wikipedia article.
oh, in that case, Harmony Gold acted like some Fokker's and MaCrossed fans when they made Robotech. A real Jenius move on their part.
do you remember love /a/?
Carlos is that you?
I remember when everyone on Megaroad-01 died.
It hurts knowing how much of that would be CGI today.
Imagine Macross done today. EVERYTHING would be CGI. It would be horrible.
I do, anon, I do ;_;
Frontier is good though. Although that was like 7 years ago (holy shit).
Why haven't they done a remake of SDF Macross yet like Space Battlehsip Yamato 2199?
I wish they'd tell us what happened...
It doesn't need one. (Neither did Yamato, that needs some fucking BDs for the TV series already).
Yamato 2199 was surprisingly good considering how liberal the remake was.
>7 years ago
Only 6. It started airing in spring 2008.
Seeing that Gundam the Origins is happening, I wouldn't be surprised if SDF Macross gets remade.
I think one of the games on the Dreamcast elaborated on what happened.
Frontier is probably the closest you're going to get, Kawamori is too busy making his other side projects that are totally not Macross no really honest.
The Origin isn't a remake though.
It kinda is though isn't it? The manga follows the original pretty well, but it changes some plot points.
I am assuming of course that they're reanimating it as well.
Well yeah, I'm just being autistic.
It's a retelling of the same story. It just makes a little more sense than the old one.
I don't have it on me at the moment, there's a map showing/comparing the journey that the White Base takes in the original 0079 and in The Origin. In one, it lands in California, travels across the pacific and northern China to Odessa, then up to Dublin and down to Jaburo. In The Origin, it lands in California and travels south.
I wouldn't want the remake to be quite as liberal as 2199, but I do want fancy new animation with mass dammit, not those plastic CGI battleships that get knocked around like leaves in the wind and removing some of the dumber aspects of the original.
If they did it like did a retelling like with Gundam the Origins and 0079, I'd be fine with it.