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How would you fix Ben-to in order to be a series that is both more entertaining and more successful?

Hard mode: It must be something other than a comedy.
NIGHTMARE MODE: You can't get rid of Ume.
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>>101165540
Completely bastardise Ume's character.
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>>101165540

Oh, that's easy.

>You can't get rid of Ume.

Damn you!
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>>101165540
MC rapes Ume into submission until she is no longer able to feel or express any emotion other than craving his cock.
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Just finished Ben-to
>Get rid of Ume
>more Sen
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Fuck your modes, get rid of Ume and come up with a better story arc for those fucking twins.
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Replace MC with someone with a fucking spine
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Get rid of that bitch who never fights. Why the fuck is she there?

That fucking whore
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just get rid of ume
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You know how the game is played OP

If we made it a better series, it would be less successful.
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>>101165974
To write gay fan-fiction about the MC.
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Get rid of Ume
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>>101166081
I hate her more than I hate piss-chan from kissxsis.

I wish they both got the concrete treatment
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>>101165870

THIS the twin are what messed up the series for me I think Sen should have beat them
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>>101165540

I really love Ben-to such a fun show
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I was surprised they didn't go with the completely obvious route that would still make actual sense given how VIOLENT Ume is. I was waiting for it the whole time, thinking they would work around to it eventually, but nope, never.

>Ume takes up the cause and joins the battles in order to both protect Hana, and to try to understand what Hana sees in that activity. Also because Ume would think Sato shouldn't have any time with Hana without her there, and her excuse would be that it's her duty to protect the students or some bullshit like that.
>Hana becomes a target because of her actions, and is put in actual real danger because of it, but Sato and Ume work together to bail her out of it. This becomes Ume's first time eating half priced food after a battle, kindling a genuine interest in the activity and a faint bond with Sato, who she lets off the hook from a beating the next day.
>Ume then goes on to have her first real solo victory and becomes a valuable, if grudging ally for the rest of the series. This also gives her more opportunities to grope Sato's cousin.
There, I just fixed it. You can thank me later.
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>>101166319

Wow I was waiting for that too!!!
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>>101166319
>More Ume screentime
Fuck no.
>but she has her redemption sce-
No.
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I still don't understand the Ume hate.

The only Ben-to threads you see anymore are just people bitching about her. Makes me think that if she didn't exist it would have just been another mediocre harem series with combat. That gets some attention when it airs and then fades away never to be mentioned again.

So how would getting rid of her help the series any?
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>>101165540
Show tits (like Dxd)
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>>101166472
If she actually had character development and wasn't used solely as a poorly-executed gag character (cause really that's all she was there for) then she would be far less insufferable. Still a bitch, sure, but sometimes bitchery can be useful for a character in a comedy.
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>>101166319

I'm pretty sure something like that does in fact happen in the LN.

I don't really see how that is a fix either. It's more like the most obvious progression of events.
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>>101166492
>muh lesbian rape
>muh sexy sadist bitch

You can only not hate Ume if you follow one of the above schools of thought, she brings nothing to the series, you could totally edit her out of it and nothing would change >>101166319 would be cool since it'd give her a purpose.
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>>101166642
>It's more like the most obvious progression of events.
I don't see how that's a problem, nothing about any part of this series seemed to be operating under the pretense that they were going for something "deep" or "innovative". It's a generic action comedy that was marred by horrible character development. If you just give them generically predictable character development, it upgrades the whole thing back to being "just a generic action comedy".

It's like trying to read babby's first fanfic with too much "darkness" themes just to be edgy, it becomes memorable only for said edginess but not in a way that makes it worthwhile. The potential of this series was only average, so it's not like having it live up to that and be average is a bad thing when the alternative is to be cringeworthy.
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/r/ that gif of Ume kidnapping the yaoi fanfic girl while she's walking up the street with MC and puts her in the cat
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>>101165540


Add more Ume.
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>>101167213
>puts her in the cat
car
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>>101166642
how far are the LNs translated to? is there more material coming out any time soon? I enjoyed the anime but I feel like I need more than just what the 12 episodes gave me in order to get closure.
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More Shaga.
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Everyone's still so butthurt.
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>>101166492
I trolled the fuck out of Ume while it was airing.

Now, I actually mildly respect her as a fellow Sadist.
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should've had more ice girl
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>>101167485

It ain't translated at all.
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More Wizard.
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>>101166492
That "umefags" heh

As for the hate, Ben-to attracted quite a bit of self-insert autists. People bullied as kids or something
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>>101174816
I think it had more to do with the fact that she kicked the shit out of the MC all the time and he basically just shrugged and carried on with his life like a normal person. He didn't really give a damn because he knew that she was just being over-protective of Oshiroi - fighting back would probably have been as counter-productive a thing to do as possible. He basically had the option of alienating a girl who already had no friends (dick move), bringing down the full wrath of god on himself in the form of Ume and making things worse for Oshiroi or destroying Ume's life and Oshiroi's and then being beaten to a bloody pulp for his trouble. There was no win and his best option was to just deal with it.
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>>101165540
Actually be faithful to the LN.
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>>101176178
>destroying Ume's life
That'd worth everything.



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