To Sachi, thank you.
To Aiko, farewell.
And to all the children... Congratulations!
Punpun, get in the fucking Eva...
what I learned from this manga is Sachi best girl
You mean Gesumi?
She's pretty much perfect and she only asks you for a merely 3 call a day thing.
And to backtracing goodbye.
Here's to hoping you're feeling just fine today again, /a/.
Enjoy your chimp-faced background character, scum
Why was he crying?
So I see this Punpun thread hanging around for a while now but never read the manga.
Is he really a bird? Or is it some kind of metaphore for muh self image?
Show me your face when this happened
Well look, first world problems tend to look smaller when first world starts to look more and more like the second
No, and yes. Why don't you try reading the first volume on your own?
He isn't really a bird. He changes depending on his mood and his life situation
It was a farewell to his past, his childhood, the fantasy, the lies. He said goodbye to all of them for the sake of living like any animal must live.
Maybe you would know if you read it, you dumbass.
So was the ending happy or not? I want to lean towards yes because Punpun seems to be going down a path of normal and sanity now.
Are you fucking retarded? its obvious that he's a bird, that's why he feels always out of place with people. he transforms with divine magic after the early arcs, though
Maybe someday. I was just interested in knowing since I see his pic on /a/ a few times.
It's... bittersweet I guess? Punpun realizes that he's slowly starting to forget about Aiko, yet finds some measure of peace in his life, and even though he can't really say he's happy, he's somewhat more accepting of the state of things now.
Past is gone, he's just an adult now
feels bad man.
I kind of wish these two had gotten there own manga. I was always the most interested in their story.
He has a job, a family, friends and he was able to move on past all the shit that was holding him back all his life.
Can you say the same about yourself ?
Why the hell did he stab his eye?
For the next few days I can say yes to three of those, and hopefully soon it'll be all four. Unless you mean having a child as the family, I don't have one of those things.
You can be crueler than that, Aiko
His uncle and the father he never sees?
He's taking care of a child with Nanjou. You can call that a family.
Makes you feel bad about Aiko, her life was shit from beginning to end.
>He has a job, a family, friends and he was able to move on past all the shit that was holding him back all his life.
Are you delusional?
Child thinks he is her father and Sachi stated that she will never let go of him.
So kind of a disfunctional family, but it suits him.
Isn't it somehow a reference to the Daruma dolls, like that when Aiko stabbed his eye it was stating that he had started a goal, and by gouging the rest of it out at the end he had completed it.
I don't know I'm probably just talking out of my ass.
This year I finally managed to make some new friend after years, but I'm still of the idea that making a family would be one of the most evil things I could do to another human. this means I got past some of my life shit, in a way
We just know the kid calls him dad, but Punpun states pretty clearly he wants to be alone so I wouldn't exactly call it a family.
He just has a few friends he meets up with once in a while, Sachi included. That's how I see it.
>she will never let go of him
>acts according to affection and sentimentalism
this is probably the most unrealistic part of the manga
Is anyone going to buy the magazine that has Asano Inio's latest work? It's on CDJapan for like $4.
I feel like he must meet up with Sachi more than once in a while for the kid to treat him likes he's their dad.
Let's put in this way.
If you reduce life to a group of things you must have, then Oyasumi Punpun has a happy ending. I think simplifying things is a good way to live: You are alive. Then you are happy. You have family, a job and people who calls you a friend. Then you are truly happy. It doesn't matter if you are not feeling happy, is mandatory that you are happy in the eyes of society.
But that's a very disturbed way of thinking.
No kidding. She had far and away the shittiest life of anyone in the story but still got almost the worst fucking end possible. I wasn't naive enough to think she was going to get a happy end but jesus christ, man. I don't think I've ever been that emotionally upset over a fictional character before.
Michael, it's time to stop posting.
I think he's making already enough...
wait, is he gonna surgically transform into a irl Nanjou if he makes enough money?
I'll buy ten.
>Makes you feel bad about Aiko, her life was shit from beginning to end.
Why didn't anyone protect that smile? Sure she was flawed and mentally unstable, but who could blame her considering her circumstances? She used to share the same childlike innocence everyone had. She deserved something better. ;_;
Well it was said a few times that Sachi is pretty weird so she just might stay true to her conviction.
We must take the story for what we got. For all we know they were all brutally murdered on their way home. But we were definitely left with some good vibrations. PunPun will be just fine.
The ending would have been happier if he died. It's one of the most depressing endings I've seen.
He's just a hollow shell who keeps marching on because he isn't even strong enough to kill himself. As a blow in the balls, he's even stuck taking care of a kid who isn't his. I'm dumbfounded by people who think this shit is bittersweet.
Shut up Eric.
If Aiko was so terrified of Punpun killing her, why did she end up hanging herself?
Did she realize that by involving herself with him again she almost ruined his life. Or did she really still think that Punpun was going to murder her that she just decided she'd rather do it herself.
I dunno, he's shown as a bird again, so maybe that it's meant to imply that he isn't as unhappy as he was before?
Me neither, but the fact she was smiling in her last few panels makes it a bit easier to take.
Aiko and Shimizu were by far the kids who had it worse since kids and they got the shittiest end.
If only Punpun took her to a hospital.
Hey, you're the one who started reading Punpun from 2 days ago.
I felt pretty hard for Seki too. He really cares a lot about Shimizu and it was hard watching him do all that shit for him to only get pushed away and then this as their end.
>so maybe that it's meant to imply that he isn't as unhappy as he was before?
In his defense, he did fucking suggest it like 3 times.
The sweet part is that he's not alone anymore after all. it could have gone much worse, dude
I guess Asano makes a point that even people who feels so detached from the norm can come to terms with a life that isn't anything like their vision of happiness used to be. Maybe it's a bit defeatist, but it's also less depressing than to think there's no possibility of hope, ever.
No, it's meant to show that his life just went a full circle.
He was a bird-like thing because he was scared, but he became the triangle because of his lack of content for himself. He became darker because of his self loathing and nihilism. He only became a bird again out of fear for both losing what he had at the moment, and from fear of a life that couldn't possibly be worse.
At least, that's my take on it.
He decided it'd be a better idea to fuck her in the woods while she was slowly and painfully suffering.
The whole point is that he's happy in the way he'll be comfortable with himself.
But like any common person will be.
A very common person.
A very unmotivated person.
A very dull person when you come down to it.
Its not even bittersweet, more tart-umami
>He was a bird-like thing because he was scared
So everyone in his family is scared?
She probably realized that her life was shit without Punpun, and it was worse with him, the guy that has been her only beam of light for years in her precious childhood memories. she simply quit life, because there was no way to fix things, and more importantly herself
So what was the most emotional scene throughout the series for you guys. I think the part that got me most upset was when the uncle tried to kill himself.
>isn't even strong enough to kill himself
Committing suicide is one of the most cowardly things you can do, since it's basically running away from life and all its problems. Also, you're associating taking care of another kid as automatically a bad thing. It's fine if that's how you feel about it, but don't project your values to Punpun. He's fine helping out his friends and it brings him a sense of relief. It's the complete opposite of being a hollow shell. He's been pretty much a hollow shell for the last several volumes as he abandoned everything in life to chase some deluded ideal. He finally breaks past from that and gains perspective in the last volume. The ending's only depressing in the way that there are no perfect happy ends in real life.
What do you think would've happened if Punpun actually went with Aiko to Kagoshima that day?
Pun pun already had opportunities to not be alone (Sachi). That's not what he wanted, he wanted more than that. If he was okay with it he would have settled much earlier than he did.
The ending was basically him lowering his expectation to garbage-tier, and having no choice but to deal with it. Perhaps with the exception of his suicidal self, he's at the worst state he's ever been. The only upside and difference is that he has no motivation to do anything, so there's no risk of him messing up.
But that's not a good situation. That's horrendous.
>He was a bird-like thing because he was scared
But he was a bird ever since he was a kid. Even his uncle's newborn child is shown as a bird. Surely he is not scared of anything (or are you going for something meta like scared of existing ever since being born?). Even his uncle found hope at the end, so cheer up brah.
After dropping it hard for cause of TOO MUCH SUFFERING I just read the last chapter. Fuck it. Life sucks and we'll never know what are the good vibrations. inb4 dildo joke please.
There are many possible interpretations as to why Punpun and his family were represented as bird-like people, but the most accepted ones seem to be that
1) It serves to show how Punpun feels inherently detached from others
2) It allows for as a sort of blank state so that readers can identify themselves with Punpun more easily
Punpun returning to his original bird form at the end shows that he's still his old self.
He has changed a lot, but he's no longer hiding behind some different form.
I'd say suicide is a lot more brave that sitting in your room is doing nothing. Because doing nothing is always easier than doing something.
Mind you, it's still a bad thing, but at least it shows some self-determination and effort. Suicide would have at least let Pun-Pun to choose his own destiny and follow with it. It would give him power and a sense of control, which he never had. That's why I would consider it happier than the real ending we got.
Punpun going back to bird-form when he told Aiko that he was genuinely glad to have met her and Aiko having the most heart-breakingly happy smile on her face when he says that. Followed by them running on the beach together and being happy for the briefest of moments.
The dream of Punpunia was pretty rough too.
When it was revealed that Punpun's mother was the one sending the letters to Punpun.
>Committing suicide is one of the most cowardly things you can do, since it's basically running away from life and all its problems.
Spoken like someone who has never suffered from depression. I haven't either, before you accuse me of projecting or blogging. I just don't think it's a matter of cowardice of bravery. There are so many factors at play. Courageous people kill themselves and cowardly people remain alive no matter what, and vice versa.
At LAST someone gets it. Asano must be ashamed of all his/her/its fanboys misunderstanding Punpun so badly.
You think of life in a terms of psychotic person - "it's either perfect or horrible". but it doesn't work like that. When your main dream, plan A, or first love doesn't work out, you can have other dreams, plans, loves. Just because you're not completely, absolutely fulfilled, it doesn't mean you should give up on everything.
I thought this wasn't going to be released until the 31
Wait, it's already the 29? Where did the first month of the year go?
Oh god where am I
When Sachi is talking with Punpun's father. And when Punpun recalls Aiko after all the shit's over.
Those two moments hit me right on the feels.
No, you're 100% correct. That's why the Daruma defeats the cult leader in that one panel.
They would've gotten caught by the police and sent back home.
The bird form is his default state. It's got nothing to do with being scared.
He's not doing nothing. He's working hard and trying his best to be of help to others. You have to understand not everyone wants to be in the spotlight and achieve great things. For Punpun, living quietly like that is the most peaceful and happiest way of living.
Fuck, the reaction to this whole ending is like in TTGL where there MC is obviously content with his life but the audience thinks it's a shitty depressing ending because they're projecting their own values on what "success and happiness" is.
Wrll, i have to say this is not the kind of ending i expected when i started reading the manga.
If your life expectations are too high for yourself, what you do? you must lower them to avoid living everyday like a fucking Donquixote that doesn't gets anything done. that's how life work for some people.
it is worse than death? you can bet on it, but only if you're not in the same position. because high expectations become meaningless once your inadeqacy have been exposed with facts
>You'll never be Takeshi
Punpun dropping his facade confessing to Aiko how he had waited for her all those years; with the background of Tsubasa wo Kudasai playing. The only part I genuinely cried to, I think.
That's such a non-answer. Give me a concrete reason why committing suicide isn't a cowardly way out. I'm talking about your average suicide-cases in the modern-day.
If anything, I am happy that he is at least surrounded by people he can call his friend
But the things that were holding him back all his life were precisely all the people he cared about, he makes it pretty clear in this page. He just doesn't care anymore. Of course his friends still worry about and hang out with him, but I doubt he has barely any attachment at all to them.
He says this before Sachi finds him, sure, but everything we see after still matches this way of thinking, like he became completely apathetic.
Fuck this series man. Why couldn't one thing go right for him?
I like you, it's good to see some people appreciating PunPun for what it is and not just getting on suffering ride expecting shonenesque ending.
After all this time, I still don't know what was up with these two
Also, the two kids at the end are supposed to be another Aiko and Punpun?
>For Punpun, living quietly like that is the most peaceful and happiest way of living.
No it's fucking not. He's not happy at all, he's pretty much dead inside. Did you even read the manga?
Well, it doesn't end as bad as it could. And he still had a lot of people who cared about him.
Except you're completely wrong, as the later chapter shows, coming from a Punpun who's now gained perspective. He feels relieved and is at peace by helping others. Why would he feel that way if he didn't care shit about the people around him?
Aiko died. It's as bad as it could be.
IT'S THE CIIIRCLE OF LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFE
The part where it was revealed that mom was actually writing letters.
"My world was yours and yours only." part
And in the last volume when he dreams about Aiko and mentions how he is slowly forgetting, doesn't even remember how her voice sounded like..
Come on man, he is in the darkest moment of his life and just tries to make some excuses to make himself feel better.
Did you read the manga? He literally says he's content with his life in chapter 145. If he were dead inside, he wouldn't feel that way. The stuff about him wanting to be forgotten after he's dead is because he's naturally an introverted person who doesn't want to be in the spotlight. He doesn't place any value in achieving great things and being remembered by as many people like many normal people do. He's found a realistic happiness defined in his own terms that he can achieve and he's finally at peace because of it, instead of pursuing some deluded version of it that's completely unrealistic and destroying himself in the process.
I feel like I'm being sliced and analyzed.
it hits too close. too fucking close. how the hell is even possible? I even said the same things >>101168654 at some point. what the fuck?
>After all this time, I still don't know what was up with these two
And never will.
>Also, the two kids at the end are supposed to be another Aiko and Punpun?
Kinda. It's like a way of showing how life just repeats itself. There's no one special, there's a new tragic/comic story with every newborn child. This wasn't a manga about special people in special situations with special qualities. It was just a manga about regular people dealing with shit. And that's part of what I think Punpun accepts in the end: Aiko, Suicide, his extreme edgyness... He was trying to go beyond, to find something that could make of his life something special. But that's not how life works, you just get your normal life and have to learn to be happy with it.
Well, people die irl and you have to deal with it. Someone dying is never the worst scenario possible.
I don't know, that's one of the only pages that makes me doubt what I said, but even there it's just relief. Relief he's not miserable and he's doing his work properly, like his only concern is not disturbing his surroundings.
His whole conversation with Aiko sounds like he has given up.
>This wasn't a manga about special people in special situations with special qualities. It was just a manga about regular people dealing with shit.
This is why I loved Punpun so much, and it's why this is one of my favorite pages. Just zooms out on Sachi and Punpun until you can hardly make them out and shows you that there's a bunch of other people doing shit out there who don't even know they exist.
Read what I said >>101169159. There're plenty of people like Punpun in the real world who don't want care about being remembered and just likes living a carefree life.
Whether its for selfish reasons or not, someone dying is for the ones left behind.
Fuck, I meant read my post >>101168973.
I always assumed the bird form was >>101169066. Punpun perceives himself as something unique, while the people around him treat him like a normal person. When we was in the hospital, it was the only time we saw his face completely. Him still being a bird at the end suggests that his revelation didn't last long.
its lke a happy hour crowded with intellectuals in there...
Well, for me that was the worst that could've happened in the manga. But the point was that life still goes on. Nobody is that special. Not even her ;_;
I figured it was the opposite. By ruining his eye he had nothing to fill in, so he could never reach his unrealistic goal for an ideal happiness.
I pity you if this is what you think intellectual people look like. You and the people you know must be very dumb and boring.
She was the only one that was special. She understood him, was basically him, and now she's gone. The one person who was like him, who would've been happy with him.
Going to be a real blogfag right now and say it is cowardly as fuck. I'm too much of a pussy to face real life and I contemplate the peace death would bring me every time I'm down. This is coming from someone with a long history of depression.
Also it fucks up everyone's lives around you. Instead of dealing with your issues yourself, you pile them onto others. You could say suicide is dealing with it, but it's not, it's an escape.
>That's such a non-answer. Give me a concrete reason why committing suicide isn't a cowardly way out. I'm talking about your average suicide-cases in the modern-day.
We don't kill ourselves because of fear, we are biologically designed to live and have kids, to kill ourselves is difficult and it's usually because some serious chemical anomaly on our brains (aka depression or others).
I am exceptionally dumb, but it actually makes me appreciate more sharper intellects. the people I'm forced to frequent in order to mantain useful social ties is, in fact, incredibly fucking boring and dull. just like people that consider themselves intellectuals, actually.
and its the people that drags me at happy hours, infernal holes filled with bad music, entitlement and a lot of discussions being held with the same tone and in the same moment.
thus extremely difficult to follow.
But the eye that the daruma actually has painted is the left one, and the right one is blank. So by loosing his sight, he has one eye painted already, meaning he has made his wish, which is probably to continue living, and when the time comes he'll eventually die and close his other eye, meaning it was fulfilled.
Or you can tie it in with Aiko's wish, I guess, which is basically the same thing - to remember her for as long as he could.
Fos example, she could be almost raped, stabed, lost her teeth and being humiliated for not even hold her pee
>it fucks up everyone's lives around you.
savor that everyone pal, one day it could be gone without warning
It is strange to me that people like you apply a moral judgment to people who kill themselves. The first wrong assumption is to believe depressed and suicidal people are always acting out based on their emotional strength, or lack thereof. They're merely following the most logical choice offered to them at the moment, when life seems all but pointless and worthless. Can you understand or imagine why Aiko killed herself? Or are you just going to dismiss on the fact she wasn't "tough" or "brave" enough to keep on living.
Well yes of course we're biologically designed to be "scared" by death but have you talked to depressed people or why those who've committed suicide said they did in their notes? It's because their fear of dying is overriden by their fear of living. And why're they afraid of living? Because they can't handle life's problems and just want to run away from it. For them, a momentary pain and a peaceful silence is infinitely preferable to a long life of pain.
This is exactly what it means to take the easy way out. It is a coward's way out, as you've basically given up on any possibility of turning your life around. Not only that, if you have any friends or family, you're pushing your own troubles onto them as well like >>101170092 said.
>For them, a momentary pain and a peaceful silence is infinitely preferable to a long life of pain.
What's wrong with that? What value is there to a human life that desperately tries to extend itself day by day without any purpose?
I think it was just because your dreams never came to fruition or were never really one to one doesn't mean your life is terrible, or that you should look at life with a "well I guess I'll settle," attitude. Look for new things to appreciate in the world and new people to love even though it's painful as fuck and harder than balls.
Aiko killed herself for the same reason why Punpun wanted to be killed by her. They both gave up on life and wanted to take comfort in the fact their pathetic excuse of a life could be justified if they could "save" the other. Had both of them been more emotionally strong and sane, they would have owned up to their crimes and worked through the problems together instead of running away to la-la land and pretending that they could leave their problems behind.
I don't know about value, but I know I don't kill myself because it would make my mom sad.
I thought it was some fight club thing, where the MC shoots himself in the neck to knock him back into reality, and killing off Tyler Durden in the process.
You can't deny that it's taking the easier way out. Also, it's not guaranteed that their life would be full of constant pain. It only seems that way to them because they've given up and their mind has become so narrow-minded that they can't possibly imagine themselves turning their lives around.
And can you still say it was cowardly if the possibility of turning your life around was taken away from you after you've been chasing it even under unfavorable circumstances, you have no family who cares about you left, and the one person who does care would benefit from your death?
Because that was pretty much Aiko's situation.
That's not the issue, the issue is they are unable to work through their problems, and instead leave them to others. Purpose is extremely hard to find, or at least I've had trouble, so most people live without purpose. There's no problem with that, even if they take issue with it. They can find a purpose by living.
Suicide is an escape and nothing else. It solves nothing.
I think Aiko killed herself because she was in pain, she was gonna die anyway and she also realized Punpun could easily get back to a normal life without her
Turning your life around means accepting the bad parts of it and looking them in the eyes, that corresponds less or more to eviscerating your ego and throwing it on the sharp, cold stones on the ground. and imagine when dealing with these bad parts means the risk of losing the respect or the affection of people that are close to you. changing in this way is more, painful and traumatic than any kind of physical trauma, and the more time you've spent with this shit inside, the more the danger of completely losing the image you have of yourself
>could easily get back to a normal life without her
I think it's pretty cruel to make that decision for someone else, but most people think they know better in the end, so it's inevitable.
It was a fact
There was factually nowhere they could have gone, nowhere they could have had a happy and normal life together. Aiko realized this and decided at least one of them ought to have a chance at happiness
>People seriously believe the ending was unambiguously sad
But isn't Inio Asano a tranny?
>mfw there was a nihilist posting near me
>mfw I have no face
Come on, you know you have to be 18 or older to post on this site, right?
That's just wrong. It was a justified murder committed in self-defense. That's not something that'll give both of them a life sentence. As harsh as Japanese society is on convicts, there are still those who manage to make a decent living for themselves after they get out.
>changing in this way is more, painful and traumatic than any kind of physical trauma
Just want to say, as someone who has gone through a fair amount of 'physical trauma', I think you're being careless with that kind of statement. In fact, the circumstances that put you there as well as the situation itself are very rarely devoid of emotional anguish and a myriad of other stresses unrelated to physical pain.
What a pointless post I just made!
These threads are always a magnet for edgyfags
Punpun was very adamant on not wanting to go to jail
Is he really? This feels more and more like some made up shit. He looked like a normal guy 2 months ago in Italy.
Not him, but not everyone lives in candyland like you or me. I'm sure there there are plenty of people who honestly can't see a better future, and I'm also sure a lot of them are right in thinking that.
Nihilism is a natural progression of people (sometimes) and society (inevitable), your response is the childish one. Overcoming the truth that intrinsic value is a lie and learning to forge your own subjective values isn't edgy, it's commendable.
Well, like I said before, had the two of them been more sane, their situation was nowhere near a point-of-no-return where suicide was the only answer.
Nihilism != existentialism.
>Not him, but not everyone lives in candyland like you or me.
What the fuck does that even mean?
This thread is fun
There's also the fact that Aiko was already dying
It means, people who don't have valid reasons to want to kill themselves.
Nihilism says that no matter what you do it will be pointless in the end.
They're right you know.
They don't require you to be 18 to post there.
No, you don't know that for sure. It's possible that had she gone to a hospital instead of killing herself, her condition could still be treatable. What did she have, like a tetanus infection? It's hardly something that modern-day medicine can't treat.
She wasn't dying, she was ill and in pain from her injuries. It might kill her eventually if she gets a bad infection but she probably would have survived. Her injuries weren't life threatening.
Why its so easy to overthink life? theoretically, you just have to do what you like...
Theoretically that is true
If you're filthy rich
Eventually there will be no record you ever existed and nobody will remember you. For all intents and purposes, you never existed at all, in that case.
It's not worth brooding about it though like an edgemaster though. A person can be happy in their meaninglessness.
I'm pretty sure that the point of filling in the eyes of the daruma is to give it sight in exchange for granting your wish, which is why I made that assumption. I might be wrong, you could interpret it as his eye being filled that way.
Punpun is a tale of repitition
>Eventually there will be no record you ever existed and nobody will remember you. For all intents and purposes, you never existed at all, in that case.
Hue. That's what you think. Just wait until you see what I have in store.
Would it still be treatable? It looks fucking terrible.
I'm not even sure what they were thinking, maybe in a proper hospital she could've still made it, but heading for a small clinic in the countryside? Really?
I'm going to sleep~
thanks anon. thanks Sachi.
see ya tomorrow
Shit, right page, wrong volume
How do you feel about immortal robot bodies, anon?
Well yeah, both of them were being stupid by trying to go to a small-ass clinic in the middle of nowhere. Her injuries really aren't that bad. Aiko could still talk and walk, and it wasn't as if she was coughing up blood. You'd be amazed what modern-day medicine can do.
I think it's something people tell to themselves in order to find some degree of comfort and peace
It's a lie, it's like living thinking the real you is sleeping deep down within and someday you'll wake up and save the world
It was a nasty wound But it apparently didn't hit anything dangerous if she was walking and traveling for that long.
The only danger was if it didn't heal and got infected
>I think it's something people tell to themselves in order to find some degree of comfort and peace
>It's a lie, it's like living thinking the real you is sleeping deep down within and someday you'll wake up and save the world
And what would you say if I told you that I'm currently engaged in research to help bring about immortal robot bodies sometimes within our lifetimes?
But still Sachi is the best girl
Then I'll give you a smile full of pity, wish you good luck and drop the issue
>Smile full of pity
>Finding comfort and peace
>It's a lie
What is your issue, anon? Seriously, what exactly is your issue? Why do you feel the need to deride the dreams and the hopes of others? Is it because you have no dreams or hopes of your own? Is it because you've given up on your hopes and dreams, and, because of that, refuse to believe that anyone else could ever accomplish their hopes and dreams, out of some bitter envy?
Just because you've given up doesn't mean other people have to, and just because you failed doesn't mean other people will. Stop looking down on those still striving and working hard to accomplish their goals and their ambitions, anon. You just make yourself look like a prick when you do.
What's it like, living without any hope at all?
i started reading punpun because i thought it was about birds. what a fucking mistake that was.
I don't think Punpun would ever want to be truly happy, the ending he got was exactly what he needs to keep going in life. He has people who rely on him, even if he doesn't want them to, and he's actually living his life by having a job and no longer living in the past. Punpunia, Aiko, God, all of that isn't holding him back anymore, even if it means he can't rely on his delusions anymore.
Gesumi a cute
So true. Infinitely better than Aiko.
Hang in there Aiko!
>You will never be as cool as Mimura or any of the other characters in Punpun
>Mimura, get the fuck out of here and bring your real girlfriend.
For some reason this one sentence really made me feel as if things were going to be alright and everything might just have a happy ending. Things went downhill.
Soara became Punpun
Punpun became his uncle
This whole volume.
>Punpun almost killing himself
>That moment when Sachi finds him
>That last episode with Punpun crying to finally move on with his life.
I was angry at the uncle, even though I understood him, but I didn't care much about him.
It ain't easy being an Onodera.
Yuichi's talk with the ex-Yakuza taxi driver.
It made me cry bitch tears.
This was how I interpreted it, in particular based on his final conversation with "God" and the motivation behind stabbing the eye. It fits because a Daruma is supposed to act as a reminder, and now whenever PunPun looks at himself, his body acts as a Daruma doll and reminds him of the goal he made
>Pegasus was just some crazy dude.
God damn I was legitimately hoping for him to really be God or something and have the series end all philosophical and Eva-esque apocalypse style.
But part of my enjoyed the happy end too.
Not even close. Worst type of person.
>Those emotions when I marathoned Punpun when Volume 10 was getting released by Hox
The implication is that she developed a case of tetanus, which is treatable but pretty damn serious. She had all of the same symptoms and her dreams alluded to it. If she was treated, she would've probably have had to go through an extensive hospital stay
This so hard. I did the same thing I think, maybe it was volume eleven though. Reading Punpun in bulk like that felt bad for my mental health, but so good at the same time.
This was amazing. It really created a conflict in thoughts about her.
This series is remarkable. Amazing work, honestly.
When Yuichi breaks down in front of his girlfriend, when she stops him from throwing himself in front of a train.
I usually deride people who try to say things like an anime or a manga being a literary masterpiece but honestly Punpun really is.
And the fact that it's a manga, though, means that no one will ever take it seriously, even a lot of people who like manga.
I really liked how they played around with Punpun's "bird form" in the second half of the series. As I was reading, I honestly wished they just showed him as a person for the first half, but once shit started getting darker towards the middle, they started getting creative at switching how he looked around.
I still say the last page should have been Punpun's real face smiling contentedly.
Perhaps I'm thinking of things more in the context of religion/society: people using it to guide their lives as though there is meaning, and that if they are 'good' they will be rewarded and remembered, they'll be 'undying'. The nihilism creeping in when one realizes that their actions were totally pointless.
Or I don't know what the hell I'm going on about, that one is pretty likely.
Damn, I totally forgot about this series but read the last 4 volumes today.
Pretty good ending, I like how most of the series was him hoping Aiko would come back and make his life better and then they meet but everything spirals out of control.
It might have been Punpun's imagination.
Seeing Harumi in the last chapter reminded me of the teacher from the first volume. They look alike, but they were presented really differently. It caused me to suspect an unreliable narrative. This scene, in particular, probably didn't happen the way it was shown. Punpun just blows it out of proportion since he's very prone to self-criticism. Maybe the same sort of thing is going on with the two principals, who knows.
Bumping with music
Pretty much. I always considered those weird bits and frozen faces to be part of Punpun's perception of other people. They largely disappear after middle school.
>Want to be a great microbiologist who discovers the secret to stopping telomerase decay
>Study hard every day, do well through my lower division courses, 4.0 GPA
>Suddenly hitting upper division courses, getting my ass handed to me, Bs and near Cs everywhere, GPA drops to 3.5, just above barely the limit to get into the Ph.D program at my school for microbiologists
>Don't know how long I can hold on for
>My dreams are falling apart all around me
I read and love Asano works because they give me comfort that even if I can't accomplish my dreams I'll still be okay in the end.
I'm still working hard to achieve them but what Punpun and her other stories tell me is that it's okay if I don't manage to do everything I've wanted to do with my life. That's something I really need to hear right now, when I'm not as sure as I was a year ago.
Punpun being comfortable and carefree does not mean he is happy. It just means his anxiety, which he was battling his whole life, is gone. But he is not happy. He is and forever will be, devoid of happiness.
Be at peace at least. Oyasumi, Punpun ;_;
>But he is not happy. He is and forever will be, devoid of happiness.
What is with people and having skipped entire pages of the last volume?
Yet Haurmi seems to be an improvement upon the same iteration, a more empathetic mentor than the one he and PunPun had. Part of the manga has always been commenting on how society would shape PunPun's worldview, and in general how it affects people's perception of the world.
The nature of the teacher is blown out of proportion both as a reflection of the distortion of memory and as a satirical take on the lessons the teacher taught PunPun about life. The thing that PunPun takes away from his relationship with his teacher was that the teacher embodied a society completely unsympathetic to his life and struggles.
Based on the last things Harumi says to the new girl in his class, he seems to to represent a generational shift away from the callous temperament of the elders in their youth
Are there any images you guys liked from this last volume you liked? I want to find one for display purposes. I like the quoted one.
It was an extreme ride. I honestly couldn't relate myself to punpun after his highschool days especially with the whole runaway murder deal. The shock value is really just over the top.. It was a really good manga but I'm not sure if I don't regret reading it. It's kind of a downer
The thing that made me feel while reading this was the group of friends he made in the second half.
It just felt stiff and awkward and I've been in the same situation. You get stuck in a group of people who you think are your friends but really you just stick around with them since it beats being alone. Not that I'm saying that was punpuns case, it's just I know the feeling of being the quite one in a group.
He's just a metaphore. If he was really a divine man, then you didn't get the idea behind the whole series. Reality is weird, but you must accept it.
Pegasus really had to be some crazy dude. Or else, his whole role in the story would have been pointless.
That's what friends are ultimately. People to share your life with, to commiserate with so that you aren't facing it alone. We hold a artificial value to relationships like school friends or college friends as if that's the only proper way to make friends. Really though in this world, you could make friends that last a lifetime with people standing next to you at a truck stop.
Its a reality that's both disappointing and yet exhilarating, to realize that the perfect path to a relationship doesn't exist, yet there are infinite paths to making relationships in life
I still don't get why Aiko killed herself. Was she just afraid that Punpun was going to kill her?
Because there wasn't much left to do anyways. They were causing each other intense pain, and there was honestly nowhere they could run to. She probably gave up and decided that Punx2 would at least be fine on his own.
I liked the idea more that she did it for Punpun, she believed that by being around him she would only make his life worse, so she wanted to set him free.
I'd say eventually you will still die. The years will pass and you will grow obsolete and become increasingly more difficult to repair. If that doesn't kill you, an inevitable war or violence might. If that doesn't kill you, the collapse of human society will. If that doesn't kill you, a natural catastrophe will. If that doesn't kill you, the incineration of the earth by the Sun will. If that doesn't kill you, the eventual decay of the universe most certainly will.
No man is immortal, and you will die, and as time passes, so will all evidence you ever impacted anything. You are merely delaying the inevitable, assuming you succeed at all, which given rate of progress the field is making and the costs associated with it, you in all likelihood will fail.
Good luck to you.