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So Senjougahara is only a anorexic girl, hanekawa is a girl that doesn't feel at home, hence the "abandoned neko". But how do we explain the rest of the monogataris?
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>>101161596
Wrong, try again.
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>Senjougahara
>anorexic
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Kanbaru masturbates too much, thus the "monkey's paw"
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Try turning on your brain the next time you watch it.
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How is crab anorexic?
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Kanbaru is gay
gay people have AIDs
AIDs comes from monkeys
Kanbaru is a monkey
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Nadeko is a venomous, deceiving bitch. Makes sense she is Snake.
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>>101161664
used to, used to
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Mayoi ran away from home. Her mother got ran over looking for her.

Kanbaru is a jealous lesbian who self harms and has to hide the scars.

Nadeko is literally insane.

Shinobu murdered someone.

Karen is addicted to drugs. Tsukihi is upset she was adopted.
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>>101161750
used to weight 5Kg instead of 50Kg
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>>101161988
>Karen is addicted to drugs
I don't understand this one.
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>>101161750
>weightless
>identity issues
>depressed
>needs her boyfriend to "carry her weight/fat" for her in

Crab is clearly supposed to represent an anorexic.
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>>101162050
Rewatch her arc.

She's been buying drugs from Kaiki and overdosed.
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Crab is a girl that didn't want to carry the emotional weight of her parent's divorce and the loss of her mother but lost her emotions and actual weight as a result. At least that's the interpretation I came up with.
Can we turn this into a Monogatari discussion thread?
>What actually happened to Kanbaru?
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>>101162061
None of that has anything to do with anorexia. Anorexia is being underweight and involves self harm or punishment.
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>>101162164
>Anorexia is being underweight

No fucking shit. That's what Senjougahara's problem was.
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>>101162164
>None of that
let's stop arguing
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>>101162193
>and
>and
>and
>and
Simply being underweight does not make you anorexic.
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>>101161988
Does the Supernatural actually exist or are they just delusions?
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>>101162255
Ask the author.
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THis topic blew my mind. I am new to the show and I m unaquainted with this theory that every girl actually has only a real, non-supernatural problem and that the supernatural occurences are just some kind of illusion, some over-representation of the natural maladies. It is as though we were being deceived the whole time.
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>>101162133
Like what was her problem?
Probably a need for attention. Her parents are gone and her grandparents are oldschool and cold.
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ITT: Autists looking for hidden meaning where there is none.
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>>101162111
>She's been buying drugs from Kaiki
So Senjougahara was also buying drugs from him to get over her emotional trauma and when she couldn't pay he took her virginity?
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>>101162415
>hidden meaning

It's not exactly hidden when it's obvious as fuck it's what the author intends.
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>>101162061
Your missing the entire point of Monogatari. All of the "illnesses" are mental illness, not physical illness. They are represented in a physical form because that's what an oddity is supposed to be in Monogatari; something that is not supposed to be seen. Besides, you're "analysis" of Crab is weak at best and hardly carries weight in an argument.
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>>101162314
I think the first ED kind of points to it.
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>>101162433
>he took her virginity?
watch the anime at least
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>>101161596
OP, it's clear that Nisio didn't use that idea after Hitagi Crab. It's a shame.
It seems that most people on this thread didn't get what you mean, though.


>>101161664
>>101161750

The God crab took away her "heavy" emotions and memories and her her weight


>>101162250
It's ridiculous underweight linked to huge emotional problems.
It's clear that Nisio wanted to make a parallelism between a fictional supenatural disease and a real pathological state, just like the animals / character designs thing.
After Hitagi crab He stopped, though.
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>>101162497
>Crab
>hardly carries weight
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>>101162193
She's not underweight because she doesn't eat. She's underweight because crab god took her weight/emotions. It's a pun, as expected from Nisio. She doesn't have any eating/body image issues at all.
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>>101162497
>hardly carries weight
Dohoh
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>>101162415
Have you ever read some literary criticisms? It's the same thing we're doing here but hyper-concentrated; authors will take passages and analyze them word by word looking for meaning in the tiniest little things. All these people who complain about the quality of thought in /a/ and anime overall don't seem to realize that people have been fishing for meaning where there is none in art since art began. That's what art is all about - deriving meaning and pleasure from creativity in your own way.
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>>101162050
>Karen
>so high on drugs that she couldn't even brush her own teeth
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>>101162626
>It's ridiculous underweight linked to huge emotional problems.
Except the emotional problems are not what causes the weight problems at all. Anorexia requires things like excessive exercise after eating to burn off any weight you may have gained, or punishing yourself for eating, or starving yourself, and so on. She has none of that, and none of her issues are bodily issues.
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>>101162675
She also didn't eat much but that was actually because she was pretty much weightless
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>mfw people think that show has any intellectual subtext
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>>101161880
Fuck you.
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>>101162786
Monogatari is just 2deep4u.
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>>101162255
It exists if you believe it does.
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>>101162786
Its supposed to be a tragic-comedic harem, not an intellectual masterpiece. There is subtext but not the type that OP is looking for.
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>>101162786
>mfw people think putting a few simple, clear, and consistent themes in a show means it suddenly has to be "intellectual"
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>>101162758
>Except the emotional problems are not what causes the weight problems at all

They did. The crab was there to take away her emotions and took her weight as well.

>>101162675
>She's not underweight because she doesn't eat


>>101162758
>Anorexia requires things like excessive exercise after eating to burn off any weight you may have gained, or punishing yourself for eating, or starving yourself, and so on.

Guys, are you 12 years old or something?
Do you know what a metaphor is and how it works?
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>>101162786
>It's monogatari therefore it isn't intelligent enough for subtext.

Nope.
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>>101162859
That's just such an unsatisfying explanation...
In the case of Hankeawa's parents:
Because Araragi believes in his delusions it's obvious that the meddling cat sucked their energies but what happened in the real world. Did they actually get hospitalized? Was Hanekawa responsible?
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>>101163020
Anything that's not completely direct and literal is "intellectual." That's how /a/ works.
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>>101163033
I think you're the one who's twelve, since you seem to think underweight = anorexia. There are far more fitting metaphors, like it's just taking weight off her shoulders.
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>>101163020
This, seriously.
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>>101162452
You're delusional. The author intends for the series to be about exactly what it claims to be about. Are you familiar with Nisio at all? Of course not. You're talking bullshit and you know it. There are no secret meanings, no subtext. It's pathetic that you faggots can't enjoy the series for what it is without having to project your half-baked theories onto it.
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>>101163037
I really don't think it's written in a way that you can think of there being a real world.

There is unreliable narration, but assuming all this is false would be throwing out the whole narrative.

It's not an impossible theory but there aren't any solid hints that it might be the case.
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>>101163033
If that was an intended metaphor, why make it so vague when you could strengthen it a fuckton very simply just by giving her a complex about her weight?
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hitagi so fucking shit
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>>101163033
In Japanese emotion and weight are homophones. Senjougahara was repressing her emotions. When she encountered the crab it took away her weight, as in the emotional weight of her past experiences.
It has nothing to do with her being anorexic, it's just a pun.
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>>101163247
Don't bother arguing with the retards.
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>>101163120
>since you seem to think underweight = anorexia.

Jesus are you really that stupid? I never said that.

>There are far more fitting metaphors it's just taking weight off her shoulders.

Expect that Hitagi calls it a disease treats it like a pathological state during the whole arc. She doesn't go dicking around saying: "fuck, I'm free from my burden, hell yes!"


>>101163247
I knew that. It's both a pun and a metaphor.
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Her disability is that she's shit.
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>>101163672
>I never said that.
The opinions you express align with that mentality.

>calls it a disease treats it like a pathological state during the whole arc
Someone who is anorexic isn't going to think they are anorexic. They are going to think they are fat and ugly. She doesn't.
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The weight was just a metaphor for her heavy emotions. She isn't anorexic.
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kizu is a metaphor for animals in the zoo because it never gets released
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>>101163803
>The opinions you express align with that mentality.
>Someone who is anorexic isn't going to think they are anorexic. They are going to think they are fat and ugly. She doesn't.
More like you still don't understand how a metaphor works. Alluding to something doesn't mean making a scientific description.
Hitagi's staplers are there to allude to chelae (other than being a means to attack araragi), but they aren't literally fucking chelae.
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>>101164659
You have literally nothing to back up her being anorexic other than her being underweight. None of her other features match up in any sense other than she's distressed about her situation.
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>>101163113
Don't forget that they are also "hipstershit" and "pretentious".
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>>101163020
This so much, holy shit. Every problem caused by oddities is clearly supposed to represent real life issues. Crab's weight issues are supposed to be representative of her depression causing her health to deteriorate.

I don't understand what's so hard to get about this. It's not fucking complicated or "intellectual" in any way. It's practically spelled out for you.
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>>101161988
>>101162255
I never thought of thinking of the oddities as a delusion. Gonna use that as an excuse to rewatch everything again.
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>>101165236
They're not. Nothing holds up with this stupid theory. What the oddities ARE though are metaphors for real life problems. Why some people in this thread think being a metaphor means a literal description is beyond me.
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>>101162805
Truth hurts doesn't it snakefag.
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>>101165449
Suck it. You almost died.
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>>101165563
how can anyone like this girl?
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>>101164850
>her being anorexic

Jesus man. I have said that she was anorexic in the story. I said that the author allude to it and made a fucking metaphor, a comparison between two things that are not alike in most ways but that are similar in another important way.


>nothing to back up her being anorexic other than her being underweight.
> other than her being underweight.
>underweight.

Once gain, ridiculous underweight linked to huge emotional problems.

>>101165304
>Why some people in this thread think being a metaphor means a literal description is beyond me.

Because they are ignorant underage, probably.
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>>101165563
>Implying snake would have any chance against shinobu if she was trying to kill, let alone kissshot.
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>>101165716
Well there are a few people, including me. I like her what what she is.
>>101165805
Oh no, not one of you autistic delusional faggots who think that Shinobu didn't get rekt many times already and is stronger than Snake. I'm not arguing with you.
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>>101164850
>her being anorexic

Jesus man. I HAVEN'T said that she was anorexic in the story. I said that the author allude to it and made a fucking metaphor, a comparison between two things that are not alike in most ways but that are similar in another important way.


>nothing to back up her being anorexic other than her being underweight.
> other than her being underweight.
>underweight.

Once again, ridiculous underweight linked to huge emotional problems, emotional problems that started everything.

>>101165304
>Why some people in this thread think being a metaphor means a literal description is beyond me.

Because they are ignorant underage, probably
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Finally, I have a reason to post this. Some of these seem a bit much, but some of them still stand. I also think that the aberrations symbolize their respective character's personality (Hachikuji retreats within her "shell" to drive people away like a snail. Kanbaru is wild and crude like a monkey in the best possible way. Nadeko shies away from everyone but is secretly devious and conniving like a snake, etc.)
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>>101165936
Is snake had combat experience it would be different, since snake's powers were never really explained I imagine it would be snake summon and the harpoon. So if shinobu closed the distance she would win.
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>>101166141
>So if shinobu closed the distance she would win.
Or used eye power.
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>>101166141
It'd be the same shit as against loli Shinobu
Teen Shinobu isn't that much more powerful
Kissshot would've wrecked Snake but Shinobu couldn't
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>>101165304
If they aren't then it'll be painfully obvious when I rewatch it. It is nisio so I won't put this kind of bullshit past him.
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>>101166270
Why would she wreck Snake? give me at least 1 reason. She's just a vampire.
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So, who's the brave moonman who will finish Otori translation?
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>>101166332
Kissshot has been established as the strongest being on Earth already
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>>101161596
It's fiction. I'm pretty sure you don't have to assign real disorders to paranormal afflictions.
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>>101166332
Eye power
Shapeshift into shadows, mist
Flight
Regeneration an unreasonable times more powerful than in loliform
Tits
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>>101166332
Kissshot is the most powerful kai.
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>>101166332
Read kizu you fucking idiot, even in the anime she destroyed the world.
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>>101166332
>just a vampire

i've never heard of vampires that can open time gates.
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>>101166332
Read Kizu.
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>>101161784
and thus kanbaru is a nigger?
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>>101161596
Am I the only one who fapped to that pic?
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>>101167266
nope.
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>>101164850
Holy shit you are retarded.

Anorexia: Unhealthy underweight due to emotional distress.

Senjougahara: Supernatural low weight due to supernatural being latched on to her due to emotional distress.

How can you fail to see that?
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>>101166503
I have. In the monogatari series.
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>>101161596
Snail was lampshaded in this this with "what does a cow have to do with being lost?", kinda.
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Diagnostic criteria for anorexia:
A. A refusal to maintain body weight at or above a minimally normal weight for age and height (e.g. weight loss leading to a maintenance of body weight less than 85% of that expected, or failure to make expected weight gain during period of growth, leading to body weight less than 85% of that expected). ?
B.?Intense fear of gaining weight or becoming fat, even though underweight. ?
C.?Disturbance in the way in which one's body weight or shape is experienced, undue influence of body weight or shape on self-evaluation, or denial of the seriousness of the current low body weight. ?
D.?In postmenarcheal females, amenorrhea, i.e. the absence of at least three or more consecutive menstrual cycles. ?(A woman is considered to have amenorrhea if her periods occur only following hormone, e.g. oestrogen, administration). ?
Specify type:
Restricting Type: during the current episode of Anorexia Nervosa, the person has not regularly engaged in binge-eating or purging behaviour (i.e. self-induced vomiting or the misuse of laxatives, diuretics or enemas) ?
Binge-Eating/Purging Type:?during the current episode of Anorexia Nervosa, the person has regularly engaged in binge-eating or purging behaviour (i.e. self induced vomiting or the misuse of laxatives, diuretics or enemas).
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>>101169814
>still trying

I like your retarded game.

"All the world's a stage"

Stage: A raised platform on which theatrical performances are presented.

world: the earth or globe, considered as a planet.
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>>101169814
Here you go.
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>>101170122
That's my first post in the thread. I just thought it would be interesting for the people arguing whether she's supposed to cannonically be anorexic. That's all. I actually agree that her apparition was supposed to represent anorexia metaphorically. But some people seem to think it was literal.
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I never understood how people think that her weight loss is - to use the parlance of this thread - an "allusion" or "metaphor" for anorexia. The reason for the weight reduction is obvious in the show (the emotional/physical weight duality), so to tack this on with no actual evidence for it just perplexes me.

Back when I first read about tying the oddities to real-world psychological conditions, I thought it was just a goofy thought experiment. It wasn't until a few months ago that I saw it come up again and realised at least some of you fuckers were serious.
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>>101162250
or
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>>101170211
Oddities aren't metaphors for physiological conditions, though, they're metaphors for mental conditions.

/thread
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>>101161596
They are all sluts anyways



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