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Japan's favorite Gurren-Lagann characters:

Simon (3567 votes)
Kamina (2123 votes)
Nia (1656 votes)
Viral (1578 votes)
Yoko (924 votes)
Rossiu (432 votes)
Lord Genome (213 votes)
Anti-Spiral (178 votes)
Kittan (156 votes)
Boota (93 votes)
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An understandable list.
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wtf?
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>Kittan (156 votes)
Manly tears ;_;
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who cares
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How... few votes. Popularity lists I've seen usually get around 9,000 for the first place.
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No love for Darry? ;_;
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Rossiu (432 votes)
Lord Genome (213 votes)
Anti-Spiral (178 votes)
Kittan (156 votes)

WHAT
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wtf, anti-spiral?
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>>10116102

Fangirls loev Rossiu
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>>10116108

The Japanese loev Anti-Spiral. They even created a female white Anti-Spiral to pair him up with.
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>Simon (3567 votes)
>Kamina (2123 votes)
Thank goodness. Simon > Kamina
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>>10116050

WTF! How can Kittan get less votes than anti-spiral?
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welcome to proxy japan
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>Kittan (156 votes)
Is this a rage thread?
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>>10116134

Votes were MAILED to the new radio show.
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Hooray! I'm popular!
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Fucking tasteless Japan. How the fuck does Rossiu get twice the amount of votes that Genome gets?
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>>10116152

Well, you could actually do both E-Mail and physical mail... but whatever.
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My list would go something like

Simon
Kamina
Yoko
Then the rest is hazy.
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How come Bruce and Beamspam aren't on this list? Fuck you Japan!
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Liking Kittan is now an /a/ meme.
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>>10116050
PERFECT.
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>>10116177

Nia
Simon
Kamina
Anti-Spiral

...for me.
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>>10116268

And Genome. I fucking love Genome. GenomeXNia doujins are mu fetish.
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i am pleased with this list
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Simon (3567 votes)
Kamina (2123 votes)
Nia (1656 votes)
Viral (1578 votes)
Yoko (924 votes)

Yet Yoko gets the artbook. Go figure.
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>Rossiu (432 votes)

432 votes too many.
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Gurren-Lagann's characters were lame, so who really cares?
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>>10116289
What about the twin-tailed girl from episode one? You know the one. That girl was hot stuff.
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>>10116345

The one that said Simon smelled?
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>>10116336

I won't fall for such easy trolls.
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>>10116361
Yes. But it was the sexy way she said it.

"Watch out, he might drill a hole through you!" and I thought to myself "Yes I will."
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>Nia (1656 votes)
1400 votes too many.
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>Viral (1578 votes)

1600 votes too many. He should have gotten negative hate votes.
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Wtf Japan. Kittan and Lord Genome should have way higher votes.
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>Viral (1578 votes)

Fucking shitfaggotry.
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You are the most delicious 10 second character ever.
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Kittan's low popularity and the absence of ATTENBUROUGH HAS LEFT ME IN DESPAIR
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>>10116476

She appears again in episode 17.
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>Boota (93 votes)
10000 votes too low. Fucking shitfaggotry
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Garlock
Kamina
Lord Genome
Kittan
Anti-Spiral
Boota
Viral
Nia
Yoko
Bachoun
Rossiu

Everyone else follows.
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>>10116495
And when the Ganmen breaks through the surface in ep 1. Unless I'm mistaking her for some other girl. My memory isn't quite working.
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Elevens hate Kittan because he 1 up'd Kamina, and that makes fanboys raaaaage hard.
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OP here. Posted this because Gainax may base their new project on the favorite characters.
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Another thing. The reason characters like Kittan are low is that you were only supposed to vote for one character. People like Kittan... he just isn't their favorite.
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Sauce on this list?
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>>10116576

The newly premiered radio show.
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>>10116546

WE BETTER SEE GARLOCK THEN
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>>10116561
I figured that. Most of the people without sense voted for Rossiu or Viral or something. The people with sense voted for Simon Kamina Nia or Yoko. We're then left with Kittan, Genome, and the Anti-spiral, all awesome, forced to sit alone by themselves.
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>>10116561
I like Kittan but picking him over Simon, Kamina, Genome and Anti-Spiral? Sorry.
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>>10116617

Kittan > Kamina as far as I'm concerned, he was a better developed and more interesting character than the stereotypical super robot hero.

And Anti-Spiral? Sure he was awesome in the final episode but he was so fucking dumb most of the time.

LOL ZETSUBO ZETSUBO ZETSUBO...he could have just, you know, run away in the final episode and let the spirals suffocate or something. Real plotnerfing when it came to his whole organization.
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>>10116649
>better developed and more interesting character

Okay, fanboy.
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>>10116649

Anti-Spiral is a representation of a hivemind society... he isn't even an actual character by himself.
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>>10116126
/r/ Female Anti-Spiral
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Rossiu got a good place?
FUCK YES YOU ARE THE BEST POPULARITY RESULTS EVER!
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Nia came in third? What the hell is wrong with the fanbase? Why do people like some cutesy mary sue faggot so much?
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>>10116762

Better than Viral, faggot.
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>>10116762
mary sue?
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>>10116762
Because your irrational hatred of a cartoon character skews your analytical skills.
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>>10116774
>>10116778

HIVEMIND
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>>10116762
Cry more, Viralfag, your furry friend has been defeated by true moe.
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>>10116762

Any character that falls for a man just due to how much this man loves another man is A+ in my book.
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>>10116794

No. Female Anti-Spiral is just Anti-Spiral... but white.
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>>10116102
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>>10116802

Truth. Nia fell for Simon after watching the Kamina statues, not due to Mary Sue faggotry. You can tell that when in front of the statues she knew just how much Simon loved him and seeing how he could feel so much for a person, she understood she could believe in him.
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>>10116815
with a dickbutt...
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>>10116815
...Oh.

Thanks.
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>>10116855
Apparently she was too stupid to worry about Simon's repressed homosexual thoughts.
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Speaking of GL, can anyone explain to me how Kamina got HAX powers in Episode 26?
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>>10116901

Or perhaps she loved Simon's homosexual repressed thoughts, finding them erotic.
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>>10116905

Because that wasn't Kamina. They were Simon's memories of Kamina.
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>>10116905
because DEUS EX MACHINA, amirite?
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>>10116927
Is that you're final answer?
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>>10116943

Well, yes. They were Simon's memories of Kamina. The little box being when he first found Nia represented Simon's desire to be with Nia, which Kamina supported.
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>>10116918
So after Nia died, did Simon fap to Nia or Kamina?
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>>10116974

He fapped to Nia thinking about Simon fapping to Kamina.
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Simon (3567 votes)
Kamina (2123 votes)
Nia (1656 votes)
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>>10116974
Neither, in his depression he became a homeless bum and fapped to coconuts.
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>>10116990

>Nia fapping

Did I miss something?
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>>10116995
Stuck-up assholes if you ask me.
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>>10116970
You just pulled that out of your sweet little asshole.
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Oh you Japan. You voted for them in the order they appear in the credits...
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>>10116974
Threesome.
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>>10117029

Explain it better to me, Freud.
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>>10117021
Yoko > Nia.
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>>10117114

Nia > Yoko
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>>10116495
wha?
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>>10117166
You are wrong because I disagree!
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>>10117276

But Me > You
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>>10117298
This is quite true.
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>>10117298
Yoko > You
Your mathematics have turned against you.
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>>10117045
I hope they explain it in the upcoming projects but to me it was just Kamina kicking reason to the curb.
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>>10117366
go back to bed cirno
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>>10117366

Call me back when Yoko falls in love due to seeing how much the man loves another man.
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>>10117396

That's so... sick. Cute, but sick.
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Yoko had tons more personality, and qualities outside OMG MOE MOE MOE CUTE CUTE, unlike Nia- who was pretty flat, really. Her character didn't have much dimension outside the part-spiral. Which wasn't all that edgy, to be honest. And Yoko did shit. Awesome shit.

Then again, my favorite character is Rossiu.
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Remember when Hideaki Anno discussed Rei's popularity and claimed that japs love uncreative, one-dimensional female characters? That explains Nia's popularity. She was the only thing I really hated about GL. Kittan getting 156 votes is also quite RAGE inducing.

As for Simon being 1#, I guess people love Gainax's "emo fag gone GAR" archetype.
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with all the viral hate in this thread i'm tempted to flood this thread
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>>10117423
>>10117443

Yoko was flatter than Nia. Nia was anything but one-dimensional.
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>>10117423
Nia had a personality built from scratch. She had the most characterization in the show outside of Simon.

This is coming from someone who doesn't even like Nia. But come on, don't sell her short. Yoko had a ton of characterization as well, and maybe more than Nia now that I think of it (I haven't counted.) but saying "Tons more" is a little unfair.
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>>10117469
>Yoko was flatter than Nia.
Love the double entendre.
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>>10117473

Yoko falls for Kamina. That's her only conflict in the whole show.
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>>10117500

And she falls for Kamina due to Kamina being cool. Nothing more. And that love lasts until she is 21. WTF IS THIS SHIT?!
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Yoko's spunk died along with Kamina.
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>>10117469
>Nia was anything but one-dimensional.
HEY I'M JUST GONNA SIT AROUND CHEERING FOR SIMON AND BEING TOTALLY CUTE ^________________^

She had no reason for being part of the plot other than being Simon's love interest and the anti spiral's messenger. Also, getting pedo faggots to watch a children's super robot show.
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>>10117500
Conflict is irrelevant when discussing characterization. Not to mention that Yoko also had an important part in supporting the narrative when she returned to being a teacher.

So there!
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>>10117542
Don't insult the pedos like that. It's not nice.
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>>10117542

What? At first she didn't even loved Simon. Nia was there to confront Genome, nothing else.

Nia don't fell for Simon until she saw his Kamina statues, and understood from them how big his heart was.
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>>10117580
... your grammar...
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Why does Japan always fellate the main character in everything? It's hard to see a popularity poll for anything that the main character doesn't win, and in the rare cases it happens he still makes top three at least.
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>>10117542

And the entire conflict with her father, creating her own personality, growing a lot in her reciprocal relationship with Simon...
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>>10117542

Her personality was about “questioning everything”, what everyone else considered an absolute she tried to actually understand. “Why are you fighting?”, “Why do you love me?” or the like. Beyond that, she had core motivations and her personal reasoning on the world. Actions like when she told Simon to use her hands as cushions for piloting Lagann or lines like “Farewell, Father. I’ll look towards tomorrow” or “As a matter of fact, we’re completely different persons. But I believe that thanks to these differences we will be able to live together” among others are clearly unique and meaningful.

She had more purpose to the narrative and development than every character but Simon or Kamina.
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>>10117616
>>10117580
>What? At first she didn't even loved Simon.
That's not the point; Simon obviously liked her from the very beginning. All of her time in the show was spent either as an obnoxious motivator for Simon or as the anti spiral's puppet.

Maybe I wasn't paying attention enough but I certainly couldn't see her brilliantly written personality
>>10117661
So she was more of a plot device to help get Imaishi's message across than an actual, well developed character. Hell, the ending only serves to prove that.
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>>10117701

No. Nia was an actual well-developed character. The better in the show along with Simon, actually. You failed to understand what I posted.

And yes, you weren't paying attention or are highly opintionated.
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>>10117701
>Maybe I wasn't paying attention enough...

Here's your problem.
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> So she was more of a plot device to help get Imaishi's message across than an actual, well developed character. Hell, the ending only serves to prove that.

Pretty much.
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>>10117701
>So she was more of a plot device to help get Imaishi's message across
Welcome to theater.

But that's irrelevant. You're selling short her characterization because you don't like her. Take a deep breath, relax, and just think about it for a while. I don't like her all that much either, but she's not as worthless as you make her out to be.
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>>10117773

She's not more of a plot-device than Simon himself.
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>>10117790

Or Rossiu, Lord Genome and Kittan, for that matter.
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>>10117796

And Kamina, but you probably knew that.
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Yoko is a very one dimensional character. People like her because of her boobs and her lack of clothes. And her guns. In other words, she's really just a mascot. Throughout the whole show she does nothing but showing off her goods and flailing her gun and acting like some kind of tsundere amazonian.
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>>10117821
You're making me angry. This is my angry face. It's the face I make when I am angered.
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>>10117808
Ah, Kamina. At least even the cast knows that you're the driving force and soul of the show.
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>>10117701

The ending only serves to develop Nia more. Watch the actual final episode, everything there serves the purpose of Nia's characterization.
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>>10117842

But he wasn't. Lagann was the soul of the show.

Such a quirky machine... <3
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>>10117842
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>>10117871
Her breasts... are bigger than her face.
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>>10117821
Did you not watch the series?
Even if she wasn't much in the beginning, her dropping out of the gang and becoming a teacher showed a LOT of character from her. The merchandising is sort of treating her as a mascot now, but he's had a lot of personal development as a character. She's an interesting person. I don't have much against Nia, but she bores me to tears with her predictable actions and behavior.
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>>10117863
You love that Lagann Impact huh?
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Nia needs to GTFO moe in my Gar.
GARLOCK
Kamina
BILALU
Yoko
Kittan
Boota
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>>10117917
Who doesn't?
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>>10117903

I don't dislike Yoko, but saying she has a lot of "personal development" while saying Nia doesn't... is pretty retarded. Watch the entire Nia arc and episode 27, please.
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>>10117937

Nia > Yoko
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I loved Starlock and all, but I wanted to see GARlock.
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>>10117950
Nia < Yoko

Aha! You have been aptly prove wrong with science. You know this is true because I say it is.
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>>10117903

Nia's trust for Simon coming from the Kamina statues shows a lot of character from her. Nia telling Simon to let her die in episode 27 shows a lot of character from her.

Works both ways.
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>>10117985

Opinions. But Nia was really more interesting in eyes. Despite what the retarded haters say, completely ignoring how her relationship with Simon was developed or how her entire arc was based over her desire to confront her father.
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>>10118021
They hate the archetype, probably.
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>>10118021
Yeah, she does have pretty interesting eyes.
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>>10118041

But they oversimplify it to the point when it's not even an argument, for fucksakes. Why would they do that? Don't they know that only makes them look stupid?
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>>10117746
I couldn't really bring myself to like her since she just felt... out of place. Judging by her personality and character design she would've been better off in a shitty hentai game adaptation anime than an over the top children's show.
>>10117773
>>10117796
>>10117808
Kamina actually had an interesting personality while Nia was more of a plot device. I could compare her to Smith from Gunbuster, but I wouldn't really want to bring any of Gurren's characters to that level of shit.

Think of the ending and Nia's death for a while. Imaishi didn't kill her off just to anger moeblob fags and create another GAINAXEND; it was part of the show's (painfully obvious) theme of treating character deaths in a light-hearted manner. Note how the main characters didn't go completely emo over it, or how the scene of her death wasn't accompanied by stock "sad" music and a cliche, dark color scheme; even though everyone knew she was going to die, they went on with the wedding anyway and didn't spend a single second BAAAAAAAAAWWing.
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>>10118047

HUR DUR
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>>10118055
When a vocal group has the same opinion, you no longer need evidence. Just hatred.
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>>10118059

But the archetype Nia belongs to has been around since the 70s!
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>>10118073

But they're not even a group! It's always the same 3 guys!
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>>10118059
>I couldn't really bring myself to like her since she just felt... out of place. Judging by her personality and character design she would've been better off in a shitty hentai game adaptation anime than an over the top children's show.

>I've never watched old-school mecha anime before.
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>>10118069
huge chin is huuuuuuuuuge
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>>10118059
Then just take my stance and dislike her over other characters in the show. Don't discount her, though.
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>>10118102
If you're referring to 70s stuff, I really haven't. Just some Getter Robo and Jeeg, and I don't remember any characters being even remotely similar to Nia.
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>>10118059

Nia's personality was interesting. She was somewhat deluding herself into being strong at first, still believing deep in her heart that everything was but a test of her father. She was deeply crushed by Guame and only relied on her trust for Simon's big heart, which she learned to love in episode 11. She's just highly intuitive.
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Nia's character design is one of my favorites, but I still don't like her. Just because she's a throwback to classics doesn't mean she's good.
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>>10118134

But she has better development than most of the cast. Just because you don't like her doesn't mean she is bad.

>>10118127

Gurren-Lagann took very little from Jeeg, only a few plot points from Getter Robo.
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>>10118127

Lana in Future Boy Conan, the pop idols in Macross, shoujo heroines... I'm just insulted you compare her to "hentai game adaptations" when she fits a much better archetype. That' just silly.
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Oh, and since GhostNia is here: http://www.gainax.co.jp/

What did I tell you? Top image is not canon. I win!
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Well, Nia-supporter here. That was the last I said. I'll ignore this retardedly opinionated catfight now.
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OH COME ON, father issues and self-sacrifice does not make her better developed, it means someone pulled some story out of the big bag of moe plot.

Self sacrifice can be bold and amazing, but Nia has absolutly no thought on it, she just does it. For her, there was never another option because she isn't a real character, she's a plot point, she's a deus ex machina with no freaking deapth. She's a cardboard cutout. A very pretty cardboard cutout, and she's so damn admirable that it's retarded.
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>>10118176

That's by a guest. The Top Page depicting Nia's panties was by Atsusushi Nishigori himself.
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All I know is I'm glad GL came along and wiped that Emogelion taste from my mouth.
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>>10118059
I would have cried if I was there. This is coming from Yoko's husbando, too.

This is for your good discussions, /a/.
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>>10118206
What's all this about? I thought Nia didn't wear panties?
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>>10118203
>she's a plot point
Again: Welcome to theater.

I know you guys aren't really familiar with that style, but it doesn't discount her actual personality. Kamina was the single biggest plot device in the show, and he was awesome.
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>>10118155
inb4 another stupid fucking spiral power/getter ray argument

You know, since Go Nagai came up with the idea of human evolution being harmful to the environment/universe; before Getter Robo, such a concept was completely unheard of.
>>10118172
She's a moeblob. Looking at her character design, the audience Gainax was trying to appeal to is pretty freaking obvious.
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>>10118247
She doesn't

PROOF is in the image.

Don't listen to GhostNia. She's crazy. The kind of crazy that I don't like because she has a different opinion.
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Yes, but see, he was AWESOME.
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>>10118294
Exactly! Despite being worked into the plot (A lot of things were), you still liked him because he was AWESOME.

Nia may not have been AWESOME, but she has tons of characterization, and development. That's why I keep saying not to sell her short. Dislike her, but don't call her a cardboard cutout because you don't like the archetype. That's unfair.
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Okay, I don't like the cardboard she was cut out of. Kamina's cardboard was epic, manly cardboard, and her's is made of rose petals or something equaly boring.
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>>10118340
>tons of characterization, and development

lol
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>>10118340
That makes sense, since someone that hates LOL MANLY GAR HOTBLOOD characters could easily dismiss Kamina with the same arguments I'm using to bash Nia.

It's just a matter of opinion, I guess.
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>>10118364
Alright, that's fair enough.
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>>10118248
Don't even start with that shit, newfag. Evangelion existed 10 years before that word was even coined, so don't associate it with dumb popular shit.
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>>10118387
Fuck yeah, talkin' TUFF.
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Darry is still awesome. Fuck the elevens.
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Yes, but MY opinion is right, because anyone who doesn't love epic, mannly, hot blood characters is a pussy.
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>>10118420
My opinion is right-er. Look how fucking adorable I am.

That's the look of one right motherfucker.
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>>10118125
Damn, Yoko makes Nia's outfit look good. I really do love her legs.
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>>10118387

Newfag? That shitty taste's been with me for half my life. Shinji's a faggot.
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Losers are "trained"
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>>10118429
Oh Cirno. You really are my favorite tripfag you know?
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Simon (3567 votes)
Kamina (2123 votes)
Nia (1656 votes)
Viral (1578 votes)
Yoko (924 votes)
Rossiu (432 votes)
Lord Genome (213 votes)
Anti-Spiral (178 votes)
Kittan (156 votes)
Boota (93 votes)

LEERON
FUCKING
WHERE
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>>10118387
Actually it's kind of like calling Fritz the Cat "furry". The "fandom" didn't exist back then, but it's still a cartoon that obviously sexualizes animals. Just like Eva's filled with stuff people would normally call "emo" these days.
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>>10118429
Damn. You are one right fellow. If I do say so myself.
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>>10118457
Ahahahahh what an awesome image macro reply XD
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>>10118387
I hope there was some way we could rate posts permanently. Anonymous then a rating somewhere on the side. This guy assumes too much and I don't want to deal with faggots like that.
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HOLY SHIT, YOU'RE RIGHT, WHERE THE FUCK IS THE BEAUTIFUL QUEEN!?
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>>10116050
>Kamina (3567 votes)
>Simon (2123 votes)
>Kittan (1656 votes)
>Lord Genome (1578 votes)
>Leeron (924 votes)
>Anti-Spiral (432 votes)
>Yoko (213 votes)
>Rossiu (178 votes)
>Attenborough (156 votes)
>Boota (93 votes)

Fixed
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>>10118457
I believe it
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>>10116050
I'm pretty sure most of those are proxy votes.
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>>10118457
omfg sooooo funny! rofl! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>10118457
I was gonna do an "ironic" anti-gurren image macro so I did a google image search for "retard"

lol, third image. GL trolls sure are creative.
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>>10118457
lol I'd forgotten about that
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>>10118511
Fuck yes you are the best poll result ever
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Attenborough was the best character

believe it
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Where's Guame?
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>>10118591
Movie is an alternate ending where Simon gives the core-drill to Attenborough.
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>>10118606
Best end.
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>Simon (3567 votes)
Stopped reading there.

What the fuck.
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>>10118511
WHY IS ATTENBOROUGH NOT FIRST
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> Simon (3567 votes)
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Simon was really a "worse" character than Nia. His character is completely defined around other characters. At first it was Kamina, then it was Nia. The Simon we got is incapable of standing on his own.
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>>10118707
Nia was there just to motivate him, her influence on Simon wasn't nearly as important as Kamina's.
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>>10118707
That's why I wanted GARlock so much. He was the first "real character" of the show believe it or not.
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>>10118707
>The Simon we got is incapable of standing on his own

lolwut
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Anyone want to post all of the Gurren Lagann GAINAX website top images?
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I wonder if the upcoming movie's going to have the "Simon destroys the entire universe for the lulz" ending from the prologue. Imaishi said it isn't going to be canon and tons of fans wanted to see that so...
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>>10118203

Goddamit, you make me fucking angry. I've reading "classic" literature this past month. I can recognize a good character when I see one. Nia was one. You're providing no argument here. At all. Moeblob? What are you trying to say? She was developed plenty through the show. She was an archetype, like Simon, but an excellently developed and executed archetype.

Try watching episode 27, please. She is full-fledged there, more intense and believable than everyone else other than Simon were through the show. She sacrificed herself because she had no other choice? What kind of dense retard are you? She had the determination to protect mankind, she understood the pain this whole Universe had to go through due to Spiral Power. Why would she desire to be kept alive through such methods?

RAGE
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>>10118353
>>10118353
>>10118353
>>10118353

i demand sauce of this picture. or artist. whichever you can.
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>>10118748

WHAT? WHAT? Where we even watching the same show? Nia and Simon grew together, they needed each other. Were you even watching the entire Rossiu arc? How everything Simon did was only to get close to Nia? His truest wish was to see her smile again, saving mankind was an addendum.
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>>10118707
>The Simon we got is incapable of standing on his own.
Bullshit. The man was legendary even after his loved ones were gone.
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>>10118838
Victim Girls 4
Imprison Me.

http://rs333.rapidshare.com/files/97778507/gi.rar
Password: victim
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GODDAMIT, IS AS IF YOU GUYS WEREN'T EVEN WATCHING THE DAMN SHOW.
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I was checking Gainax's site and... who the hell drew this shitty cover? Kamina's hand obviously looks wrong; it looks like it's supposed to be his right hand but the finger placement is completely off
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NOT A CHARACTER. NOT A CHARACTER.

FUCKING BULLSHIT
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IF I WAS RAGING MORE, I WOULD EXPLODE
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Rossiu > Nia > Simon
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>>10118946
Don't worry.
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>>10118965
>IF I /WERE/ RAGING MORE, I WOULD EXPLODE
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Both Simon and Nia were boring, no matter how well developed they were. I am personally not fond of coming of age stories, so I found Simon a bit uninteresting.
Many of the secondary characters (Rossiu, Kittan, Yoko) showed just as much development, but over shorter (screen)time.
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Grape Hippo > Kittan > Rossiu >>>>>>>>>>> Nia > Yoko

I cant believe how many foolish responses are in this thread concerning which characters are the best. shame on all of you for not recognizing Grape Hippo.
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where the fuck is bruce?
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I still can't believe Kittan is just barely a step above Boota. Kittan IS my favorite character. The series first started, I didn't really give a crap about him, and thought he was a boring character. Then he gets banana mecha and kills stuff, and I'm thinking it's pretty cool, but I still like Kamina better.

Then Kamina dies, and I'm like, oh shit, who's going to fuck Yoko now? Kittan? No, he's too much of a loser.

Then it gets to the time jump, and he's trying to protect his sisters, and stop the evil Rossiu from being such a cockfag and fucking Kinon (although he fails). I'm thinking, wow, this guy actually isn't so bad. And then Yoko comes back, and gets startits, and Kittan freaks out like the virgin he is, and I think, "Oh shit, better not be hitting on Yoko, that's Kamina's bitch". But then he's all sweet, and I finally accept them...and then when he finally gets the balls to kiss her, right when I have finally accepted Kittan as Yoko's new love...HE FUCKING DIES. And he dies in more of a manly way than Kamina, changing from an overprotective brother to a sacrificial man that makes saving the human race possible.

Kittan is fucking epic, and deserves better than trailing the Anti-spiral's ass, at least. Who the fuck chooses Anti-spirals as their favorite character? Faggots, that's who.
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>Simon was really a "worse" character than Nia. His character is completely defined around other characters. At first it was Kamina, then it was Nia. The Simon we got is incapable of standing on his own.
>Nia was there just to motivate him, her influence on Simon wasn't nearly as important as Kamina's.

GODDAMIT, RAGE

RAGE

RAGE
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I can't help but think that Nia's death was used to show Simon's coming-of-ageness. It was more manly and inspiring compared to his reaction to Kamina's and his parents' deaths (which was to freeze up during an earthquake, I guess)
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>>10119901
King Kittan GD KK was awesome alright but Kamina's beatdown then comeback and not one, not two, but THREE awesome "last words" were way more epic. Not to mention Kamina's VA's GD sounded much better.
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“What is a person?
Eh?... Well, a person is something like us, that looks like this, and has a face...
There are others, too?
Huh? Ah, yes, there are...
Really? Are they all like you? Do they have a face like yours?
We're not the same. If we had the same face, it would be disturbing.”

It's impressive how much a simplistic dialog says about the global conflict AND the episode in question.
-Faces are a clear symbol of individuality in Gurren-Lagann. Hence the heavily characterized faced machines and the vilification of the mugan.
-By proxy, declares lack of individuality and "fitting in" as something disturbing.
-Hence portrays Simon's inner conflict after Kamina's demise. Him wanting to showcase a face that wasn't his.
-Similarly, it states the route of Nia's character development. Despite her looks, she was always one of millions: a doll for Lord Genome, a messenger for the Anti-Spiral. It's also her purpose for the narrative to portray another route to how reciprocal "individualization" is, since both she and Simon become individuals only through the help of each other.
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Kamina taught Simon what how to live. Nia gave him a reason for it.
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>>10118914

>I'm not the same person as you.
>As a matter of fact, I'm a totally different person.
>But because we are different, I believe we can live together.
>Thank you... for this ring.
>I am very happy

Concretely, this takes the idea of "different faces" forward and reinforces the idea of a reciprocal individualization. Beyond that, this perfectly ties in with:

>Genetic diversity via sexual reproduction is the key to evolution.

...to a more blatant extent and adds to the overall dramatics of Nia, who was so proud of her self-attained individuality, becoming but a puppet for a society of "same-faced" individuals.
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YOU GUYS DON'T DESERVE GURREN-LAGANN.

GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY FANDOM.
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>>10118909
nevermind, that pose makes sense

thanks /a/, now I'm finding QUALITY everywhere. Even if it's nonexistent.
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>>10118830
Blinded by the moe

only thing that separates her from Japanese 'perfect' girls(the soft spoken respectable easily offended ones almost always the central main female of any anime) is that she dies, goes evil, and the equivalent of rape(anti-spiral mindfucking).

She's just a western female character in a japanese anime, nothing remotely special compared to any type of literature.

Indeed, if you truly think this I fear for the future when the deepest character they can understand is a Shinji clone, even though he's a clone of J.D Salinger's teenage angst.
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>>10118942
You've been spoiled and ruined.

Enjoy (you won't) your anime.
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>>10118965
DO IT FAGGOT
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>>10118958

Nia is strong-willed, not soft-spoken(only polite) and was never offended through the show. What the fuck are you talking about?

I'm not calling her "literature", but she is top-notch for anime.
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>>10120010
Nia's death did a lot of things. Including but not limited to ensuring spiral nemesis doesn't happen, closing the narrative with a lesson, and showing how much Simon had grown.
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>>10118880
>>10118880
>>10118880
>>10118880
>>10118880

thank you kind sir. now i give you a stack of mutalisks. what will you do with them?
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>>10120132
And provided cool visuals
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Of course Nia is not psychologically on the level of Takahata's work, but the finished character is excellently executed. Both in visuals and dialogs. She's as realistic as a larger-than-life holy messiah can get.
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>>10118920
Simon's reason to live = helping humanity evolve (you know, the whole 'piercing the heavens' thing). Nia was just Simon's love interest and the anti spiral's messenger, nothing more.
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>>10118990
Heh.
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Is it just me or is GhostNia a psychotic bitch?
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OH MY GOD

Clever writing on the staffs part has NOTHING TO DO WITH HER CHARACTER. She wasn't making those parallels, she wasn't analyzing her situation or the situations of everyone else on the planet, she was just fucking babbling at him.
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>>10119025

No. Simon needed Nia. Novel written by Nakajima say this, and Nakajima said the novels are irrevocable canon.
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>>10119023
MARY SUE/YAMATO NADESHIKO/PERFECT WAIFU
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sorry for slowpoke, but starlock =/= garlock amirite? more likely it's the coconut boy at the end?
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>>10119031
Garlock's the arrogant version of Simon seen in the prologue, Starlock is self explanatory

there's no fan-given name for the coconut kid (that I know of)
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>>10119025
You guys should make up your mind. First you say she was the plot device driving the story, then you say she was just the love interest.

She was both, friends. For the third time: Welcome to theater.
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>>10119025
Yeah. Good thing Simon stopped being emo by himself without Nia's help huh?
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>>10119044

She was a Messiah/Saint type of character.
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>>10119059
Yeah, she was both. I'm just too lazy to keep on debating the characters of a children's cartoon right now.
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>>10119057
>>10119057

i didnt really think garlock = simon in the first place anyway. im putting my bet in for coconut kid. besides, it cant be simon; boota's beastman form's only other appearance other garlock's crew was a teenager. garlock's bootaide is a manly man, not a teen.
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>>10119031
>more likely it's the coconut boy at the end?
No way. Simon specifically taught that boy lessons about how too much power wasn't worth shit. That boy is going to grow up right.

Garlock was simply a hook that didn't make it into the show. In canon: It was an alternate reality Simon.
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BAWWWW Childrens cartoon show!

Yes, she's a saint messiah Azmaria deus ex machina booring booring character.
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>>10119120

Talk about being butthurt.
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Novel talk about Nia:

Simon respects and admires her, thinking of her as a "strong person." It is said Nia supported the hearts of not just Simon, but all the humans who came up to the surface, and how she was like the sun to them.

Before proposing to her, the book says:

"He had no concern about the fact that Nia was the Helix King Lord Genome's daughter. She is herself. He needed her, and she needed him too."

In many times, it is stated by Simon's own thoughts he is hypocritical in his words, since despite his constant claims of desiring to save humanity he really just wanted to see her usual smile again more than anything else.

NOVEL IS CANON, BITCHES
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>>10119031

i hear news of a sequel? and the gurren dan never really got to fight the spiral nemesis, which gods knows what looks like. so yeah, coconut kid might be the next GAR. you never know with gainax. unless they fuck it up.
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>>10119092

No, you're just realizing you hold no grounds to your criticism. "I don't like her" = "Terrible character".
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>>10119092
aw did someone get offended
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>>10119170
>which gods knows what looks like
Spiral nemesis doesn't look like anything. It's just a big black hole that ends the universe.

And Coconut boy is not the man in the prologue. That man is an alternate reality Simon. That man was abusing spiral power and would CAUSE spiral nemesis if he kept that up. The coconut boy was taught by Simon not to flagrantly abuse power. He teaches him to turn it slowly to open the shell.
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Also, novel details Nia's transformation into the Messenger. And it proves this copy-pasta theory:

"By the moments the final credits roll she remains as the one character with true understanding of the symbolical motif behind the Anti-Spiral motivations. She, a doll who came a long way from a basic, overdone, adorable debut in where she barely knew of ideas such as "human" or "despair".

From a psychological stand-point, we never got a through explanation in the nature of her transformation but it is possible to infeer the situation from her dialogs as the Messenger. Nia's memories remained, but they were meaningless to the accomplishment of her newly found raison d'etre: the task of transforming her race into nothingness. If her personality was kept, if as mere information, in the initial transformation… why wouldn't the knowledge of the Anti-Spirals be still inside her when her awareness kicked in? The subtext of this "gained wisdom" is there: she truly believes living on by the abuse of Spiral Power would be a selfish wish on her side that would only bring forth the Universe towards the feared entropy of reset. She tells Simon, during the battle, to do what he is meant to do: this is her dying wish and as such it is so strong she is willing to sacrifice her own happiness for it."
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>>10120010
basically "shit happens, learn to deal with it (possibly in a GAR way) or you'll become the next shinji ikari"
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>>10119203

I loved them myself, thank you very much.
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>>10119216

...LOL...


(That's mine)
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>>10119203
>I am personally not fond of coming of age stories
You're a monster! How could you have a heart made of such stone?
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>>10119257
They are so overdone, especially in anime.
What's wrong with adult main characters? RAGE. Let us ignore the target audience for GL here.
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>>10118830
>I've reading "classic" literature this past month. I can recognize a good character when I see one.
lol
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>In many times, it is stated by Simon's own thoughts he is hypocritical in his words, since despite his constant claims of desiring to save humanity he really just wanted to see her usual smile again more than anything else.

Was Imaishi involved with the novel? Since one of his lead writers really misunderstood the whole message and they had a small argument over it during an interview.

Note how Simon didn't become a BAAAAAWWing sack of shit after Nia's death; he was contempt with the fact that he made the most out of his final moments with Nia and managed to create the world he envisioned. I guess a truly optimistic message like this is too much for Gainax's self-loathing otaku staff to handle.
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>>10119294
Yeah but how often are coming of age stories made where the development mirrors the themes? Not very God damn often.
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>>10119314
Do you know what an empty victory feels like?
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>>10119332
THIS, FAGGOTS.

GL is all about evolution. A coming of age story is perfect for a concept like this.
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>>10119352
He knew Nia's very existence was completely unstable and probably predicted her early death, but saved her and went on to pierce the heavens anyway. That's what GLfags always seem to miss when BAAAAAWWing about the supposed GAINAXEND.
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>>10119447
I guess you don't.
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>>10119447
>probably predicted her early death
Scene in ep 27 says otherwise. She has to tell him to go on.

>>10119457
Japan doesn't even know bruce exists. Bunch of yellow faggots.
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>>10119386
Also, Simon ended up being a really self-sacrificial character at the end. Which was the complete opposite of the Simon in the prologue.
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>>10119504
/r/ the actual quote
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>>10119529
I guess you can't read facial expressions too.
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>>10119504
It's not like he would've given up on everything if it weren't for Nia motivating him. I honestly doubt Simon's that much of a self centered douche.
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>>10119529
I don't remember the dialogue exactly, but something like

[Nia's disappearing]
[Simon is surprised]
Simon: Nia! You-

Nia: You've come this far because you did what you had to do. Isn't that right?

Simon: I understand. I'll win this fight. Definitely.

Anti-Spiral You'll end up dying like a dog anyway. VANISH This isn't really part of it. I just like it.
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>>10119719
I thought Kamina's death was a lot more epic in terms of voice acting, script, animation and music. Kittan's sacrifice was probably more helpful but not nearly as memorable as Kamina's.

Though I can certainly see why jap animu fans loved the anti spiral.
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>>10119589
>>Simon: Nia! You-you...
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>>10119832
Thanks, you just ruined that scene for me

but, dammit, I lolled
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>>10119719
>more of a manly way than Kamina
Does not compute.
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>>10119823
Libera me From Hell. Shit gives me goosebumps
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>>10119874
Giga Driller kamikaze > classic "smile, you're dead" death
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>>10119901
>Giga Driller kamikaze
>classic "smile, you're dead" death
Kamina did both
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>>10119920
So did Kittan, actually. They were two very different deaths, despite the final attack being extremely similar.

That was kind of the point of Kittan's character in the first place. Kittan and Kamina both had the same roles, Kittan was just pushing from the bottom.

Personally, I preferred Kamina's death. I liked Kittan from the moment he was introduced, though. I liked him in 4, I liked him in 7, and I liked his attitude whenever he appeared after.



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