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what the fuck am i reading
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I'll guess Goodnight PunPun
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>>101144319
A true classic.
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>>101144319
Depression in physical form.
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>>101144361
This
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>>101144319
>>101144359
>>101144361
>>101144378
More like 'pretty mediocre manga overhyped by it's fanbase'.
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>>101145128
>Shitposting this much.
You probably haven't read it or your life is perfect and you can't understand a single thing that's in it.
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>>101145128
You must be pretty dense.
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>>101145231
I've read it and my life isn't perfect. It's really mediocre and really, no, REALLY overhyped by it's fanbase. I've seen better psycological drama in manga form.
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Overrated shit
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>>101145312
2real4u
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Too be honest, it's far from the best Inio Asano's manga.

>Nijigahara Telegraph
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>>101145384
This manga is actually pretty absurdist and unrealistic from the rl perspective.
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>>101145512
>unrealistic
Why? Not ordinary enough?
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>>101145512
You must be a girl.
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>>101145606
Because there's just too much unrealistic/crazy characters on one highly indefinitive/passive (and unrealistic too) MC. He's just like a little avatar for the loser with complex of martyr.
>Momma muh sufferin' can't b this harsh
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>>101145865
I don't know what planet you come from but every person has problems man. Even if they look ok, everyone will have their shitty probems, one more severe than the other.
Everyone hides behind the mask of depression.
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>>101144319
A downward spiral.
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>>101145961
How many crazy/unfit into reality people do you know?
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>>101145865
So, not ordinary enough. Because in the real world, there are no fucked up people, nor do fucked up things happen to anyone.

>>101146096
A lot, actually.
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>>101146150
But it still doesn't excuse badly written characters.
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>>101146096
You're wrong thinking everyone is "crazy". It's how you percieve people trying to act normal in society and not trying to show any weakness.
Were seki,shizimu or his mother/father crazy?
For what I know, these are all realistic characters and depictions of real people.
Maybe it's cause a good friend died at age of 20 last Christmas in a car crash and went brain-dead, I percieve things in a different way as of now.
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>>101144319
>what the fuck am i reading
>1st vol.
Man, shit is far from getting started.
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>>101146263
I don't remember any. Perhaps you just have a vary shallow view of how real people work.
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>>101146263
>badly written characters.

This is just getting embarrassing.
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>>101145312
>I've seen better psycological drama in manga form.
Like what? I've read some good dramas (my favorite genre) and still consider Punpun a pretty good manga.
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Why does Asano backtrace so much, sometimes it's really pointless seeing 3-4 pages of the same thing just in a few different angles.It adds to nothing but filling up the pages with shit. He could have used a more lazy approach just the way he draws punpun sometimes.
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>>101146334
>>101146382
Every character, they're so shallow and unrealistic that sometimes I had a feeling of reading typical chip drama with entire cast acting as a fill ins for what there could really be if the author knew what a real characterisation is.

>>101146440
Stuff by Naoki Yamamoto, Jiro Matsumoto, Hideo Yamamoto and, fuck, even FKMT has a better grasp on human psycology than Inio Asano.
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>>101144319
>BYOINK
Every fucking time.
Fucking god.
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>>101146360
The most sad thing about punpun is how his childhood is portrayed; a wide world of opportunities, which then leads to a spiral of madness. Average life.
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>>101145128
This.
Punpun is a mediocre-good reading, Asano oftens goes over the line and fucks up his own surrealism.
But MUH RELATABLE REALISM and the masterfully appealing style of storytelling make fanbase exaggerate their opinion on it in 99% of cases.
It's good but it's not the second coming of Christ
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>>101147095
I personally liked how his relation to his mother and father has its consequences when he grows up. He was agood student, but his worldview was affected by what he learned from his parents and finally dropped of school and accepted not to put effort on anything since life ends up being shitty anyway.
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>>101146396
They're not badly written in the meaning that they are not entertaining/interesting, becase sure as hell they are, but in the meaning that it's literally impossible for people THIS fucked up to exist in the same moment and to interact between them.
This is a story and stories are crafted to be interesting and appealing, but when you want to craft a realistic story, you have the ulterior limit that you have to make interesting things happen without making them look far-fetched and statistically impossible.
Punpun is written in a realistic style but what happens per se is not realistic.
You may know 1, 2, 3, maybe even 4 person that get arrested for having stabbed their childhood sweetheart's mother and that got raped by their uncle's fiancee, I'll give you that, but I'm sure there's no interactiono between them
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>>101147179
I can agree to this. including suffering and despair and soul-crushing depression doesn't make your story "realistic", it simply makes it about despair, suffering, and depression.

which happens to people, in varying degrees. Most people will not have to go through the kind of shit PunPun does, and they're exaggerating their own problems if they think they have it nearly as bad as him.
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People have started liking it so soon there will be the typical /a/ reaction to anything that becomes even marginally possible must be shit and people will come up with buzzwords and other nonsense to prove how bad it is. I recommend reading it, I really enjoyed the entire story, but good luck talking about it here without it devolving into a pretentious clusterfuck of comparing it to classic literature and how it's too "dark".
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>>101147363
>Most people will not have to go through the kind of shit PunPun does, and they're exaggerating their own problems if they think they have it nearly as bad as him.
This
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>>101144319
>mangatank.com
How the fuck is that even a thing.
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>>101147343
> for people THIS fucked up to exist in the same moment and to interact between them.

Are you on drugs or something? The only real fucked up people there were PunPun and Shimizu, which never interacted, and PunPun become a totally fucked up person only when He stopped seeing sachi. And if you think that someone can't be as fucked up as PunPun or autistic as Shimizu well...
Oh, and most of them aren't "entertaining", but great piece of chracterization.

>you want to craft a realistic story, you have the ulterior limit that you have to make interesting things happen without making them look far-fetched and statistically impossible.

Enlighten us, what was statistically impossible?

>Punpun is written in a realistic style but what happens per se is not realistic.

Such as? Aside the crappy useless cult subplot, of course.

>You may know 1, 2, 3, maybe even 4 person that get arrested for having stabbed their childhood sweetheart's mother and that got raped by their uncle's fiancee, I'll give you that, but I'm sure there's no interactiono between them

So, just that? It's unrealistic because her uncle's fiancee used him as a sex toy and because many years later he got a girlfriend who had a crazy shitty mother?
Are you fucking kidding me?

By the way are you >>101146848?
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>>101147549
>>101147343
> for people THIS fucked up to exist in the same moment and to interact between them.

Are you on drugs or something? The only real fucked up people there were PunPun and Shimizu, who never interacted, and PunPun became a totally fucked up person only when He stopped seeing sachi. And if you think that someone can't be as fucked up as PunPun or autistic as Shimizu well...
Oh, and most of them aren't "entertaining", but great pieces of characterization.

>you want to craft a realistic story, you have the ulterior limit that you have to make interesting things happen without making them look far-fetched and statistically impossible.

Enlighten us, what was statistically impossible?

>Punpun is written in a realistic style but what happens per se is not realistic.

Such as? Aside the crappy useless cult subplot, of course.

>You may know 1, 2, 3, maybe even 4 person that get arrested for having stabbed their childhood sweetheart's mother and that got raped by their uncle's fiancee, I'll give you that, but I'm sure there's no interactiono between them

So, just that? It's unrealistic because her uncle's fiancee used him as a sex toy and because many years later he got a girlfriend who had a crazy shitty mother?
Are you fucking kidding me?

By the way are you >>101146848?
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>>101146848
>Stuff by Naoki Yamamoto, Hideo Yamamoto and, fuck, even FKMT

Sorry but I can't stop laughing, you must be a rabid Asano hater or a complete idiot.
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>>101147179
>It's good but it's not the second coming of Christ
Every time.

Every single time people happen to like something, there has to be a couple of faggots screaming OVERRATED SHIT. A lot of people enjoyed it, no one is saying it's the second coming of Christ or the greatest story ever told. Maybe a couple of people, but it's hardly the majority of the reaction. Seriously, you pretentious contrarians are the most annoying bunch ever.
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>>101148042
>No, you: the post
Ok.

>By the way are you >>101146848?
Nope.
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>>101147363
> including suffering and despair and soul-crushing depression doesn't make your story "realistic"

Causes, consequences, the characters' reactions and the execution made it realistic, not the suffering itself, is it that hard?

>Most people will not have to go through the kind of shit PunPun does, and they're exaggerating their own problems if they think they have it nearly as bad as him.

Duh.
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All I want to add more is that Asano is a real man/woman for making this work.
He must have had a broken mind for a long time. I would want to recommend this to anyone, but of course any normal person would say " oh a manga, how can that even be realistic ? "
It's such a great read and it sucks that only people who already read manga will read this.
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It has some absolutely awesome moments that I consider the best I've read in any manga. But overall it's above average good. If it wasn't for this few awesome moments I would have not enjoyed it that much. Also I'm porbably one of the few person who absolutely loved the end.
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>>101151212
>implying every step of PunPun's personal path wasn't great in its totally different way.

Yeah, no.
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>>101151325
In bizarro japan, maybe
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>>101151403
If you really think that things like the whole vol. 10 weren't absolutely great I have bad news for you.
"Moments" my ass.
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>>101151212
>>101151325
>>101151403
>>101151529
I think both of your opinions have merit.



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