Why didn't Asuka outperform Shinji and Rei by a wide margin if she's been training to be an Eva pilot since she was a little girl? She required heavy team support basically the entire series.
The fact that she is shitty is irony and the crux of some of her character turmoil since she doesn't want to rely on others or be replaced but has to helped and is outdone multiple times and is mostly canon fodder.
Because she is useless.
Because Asuka a shit
Because she has even worse issues than Shinji.
don't issues basically power the Eva though?
stop no bully pls
Because she's a useless bitch.
No. Did you watch the series, her issues got so bad she could not even sync with her eva anymore
She was bad.
That was kinda team game and she was that fucker who plays only on himself instead of cooperating and tried to steal every kill to get highest personal score.
Which led to disaster, as always.
Are you calling Shinji and Rei an issue?
She needed her Mari.
She's #3 at robot piloting, but #1 at cuteness. That has to count for something.
i watched the original, no rebuilds though. I thought they sync better the more mentally broken they are
#4 If you count Kaworu who did pilot it in manga and somewhat remotedly piloted it in TV
This and this. Despite all her training she preformed shit when the real situation came. What really drove this point home was Shinji easily killing the angels despite never having been a pilot before. What I've mentioned plus what I've quoted are the main reasons Asuka is who she is. So there.
Mari's existence only made her appear even less and become even less important.
>I thought they sync better the more mentally broken they are
No, that's one reterded fanwank from evageeks.
They actually should be calm comfortable and confident to get synchro.
No, it's the opposite. When Asuka started crawling in her skin after Zeruel, her sync ratio started to plummet to the point that she couldn't pilot.
They're like a set in Rebuild.
So basically, the whiter you are the less able you are to pilot.
Fuck you Anno.
Sheck your privilege and stop whinning, you lucky motherfucker.
She's not much worse than the other two, when you forget about the times Unit 01 goes berserk.
Because Shinji's mom is apparently a savage fucking street fighter, who can easily kill anything.
DON'T TOUCH MY BABYYY
>Kaworu is an albino which is the whitest, whiter than white man
>Rei is a true born geneticly modificated super-human made for being perfect
Yeah, wrong-est set I've ever seen
Mari don't deserve by Asuka side
Yeah those 3 minutes they were on screen together were so memorable.
This ain't a competition
Mari is a clone of Asuka's dead mom. She's also got a dick. That's 4.0's big reveal.
My aunt works at Gainax, and she can confirm.
I'd still rub my dick on Q's retarded crack.
Mari is on screen every time we Asuka. Except for the ending and medbay scenes.
>Yeah those 3 minutes they were on screen together were so memorable.
Fans have shipped people together on a lot less. And given how 3.33 pandered to the yaoi crowd, to much success, I wouldn't write off Mari/Asuka scissoring just yet.
I miself would give that piece of shit an order, if you know what I mean.
the order to no want and to resist so it's rape and more intertainig to beat her up half-dead
I like your style.
Mari probably isn't getting any kind of explanation in 4.0, either. She's probably going to sell figs and then leave, without any explanation.
I think it has something to do with the relationship with your mother as well (PSYCHOLOGY)
Evas function based on how much you're willing to open yourself up to them, Asuka was trying to repress the bad memories of her mother and could do okay until the mindrape (and then she recovers in EoE by fully embracing her feelings for her).
Meanwhile Shinji barely remembers his mother but he clearly associates her with positive feelings and longs for her protection and Rei is a completely different deal.
Or maybe Yui is just too fucking OP.
Tell me again, what's connection between Asuka and sunflower?
She'll get an explanation when they do the what happened during the timeskip series.
You could be the worlds top martial artist and it wouldn't do shit if you couldn't synchronize with the eva.
>Fans have shipped people together on a lot less.
Wait so you're conceding that it's baseless and shallow or...? And yuri isn't as popular as yaoi, at this rate, Asuka will just continue to be as irrelevant as Mari in the finale. Go ahead and continue liking it, I just find it a waste. And if they follow the yaoi formula they'd just interact for a few minutes and then one of em will die. So exciting.
Nothing special, It's just some official art had her in that dress with sunflowers, and they kinda suit her red girl yellow dress yellow sunflowers.
It's like Rei and moon, same with Asuka and sunflowers.
Asuka is pretty. Sunflowers are pretty.
if i remember correctly she had the highest sync-ratio of all pilots by quite a large margin till later in the series
Sunflower seeds are also tasty as heck.
I never said I liked it. I said don't write it off.
That's what we're talking about.
She had the highest ability but the worst personality and was completely unable to work as a team.
The sunflowers are from the manga. Her flashback to her mother had her in a field of sunflowers. Manga version isn't one for symbolism, it's just cause it was pretty and sunflower fields are common in anime/manga.
Nah, not a series.
Maybe during Instrumentality flashbacks in the movie after 4. You know, Rebuild of End of Evangelion.
You're posting an awful lot of images of them for someone who doesn't like it. I also never said I was writing it off, just that Mari has caused Asuka to get less screentime, all for them to have very little time on screen yet again in the third film.
Japs seem to like sunflowers in general, when everyone else treats them as food or something you make oil from, japs appreciate them and give them to girls.
She is a better pilot than Rei. The only reason why Rei does more shit is becuse Rei is suicidal. Shinji is special. He's the protagonist so he must be the ace.
Oh it's gonna happen. It's 14 years worth of easy plot lines. No way the master passes that up.
Shinji + Asuka would never defeat Ramiel. Asuka would refuse to grab the shield and Shinji would be to scared to get that hit again.
Whatever the game is moba/mmo/battlefield you need a support.
2 carry never win against a carry + support
if it's MMORPG a the damage dealer needs a support
In battlefield you need those enjineers.
Askuka + Rei would also work okay, except Asuka hates Rei more than she hates Shinji, But Asuka + Shiji without Rei wouldn't work at all.
But Rei is qter. And so is Shinji.
Are you saying this can't top Unit-01?
Unit-01 was designed for Apocalypse, so if her berserk and shit doesn't count. Asuka IS winning already by pure skill
Hell this teenage girl is so unstable, always lose by synchro
i found it much more impressive that she managed to force unit-02 into a pseudo berserk mode by pure rage.it didn't help and it hurt to watch that scene
I like this very much, Yellow dress and sunflower
Rei and moon is from the ED, Fly Me to the Moon. And the scene from she and Shinji before fighting Ramiel when she said "Goodbye." I can understand that
Shinji kills Shamshel all on his own.
Rei kills Arael all on her own.
Asuka kills Sandalphon all on her own, and would have died without Shinji there.
Asuka a bad.
With her mindset she can shove her skill up her ass, she might have the best ability but she is a sore loser.
Until she fixes her own head she will never win.
I like how you infer that that anon is "mad"
>Shinji is special. He's the protagonist so he must be the ace.
Pretty much this, although I will agree with the idea that a team consisting of Shinji and Asuka would not work out because of their personality clashes.
Whether Shinji + Asuka would work out or not has nothing to do with OPs first statement anyway so that was completely fucking pointless.
Mari is a LAS shipper
Maybe if Shinji wasn't so self-absorbed and actually gave some attention to Asuka she would be a better team player. All she really needed was friends and love.
Not pure rage. She's finally found the mean of AT field and it's connection to her mom. And then she determine to finish her mission
And lost, fucking duracell battery
>if people in eva wouldn't have massive dissorders everything would have worked out wonderfull
thank you for the revelation
i meant after the battery was empty and she still was able to move the arm of the eva.
Rei tried her best to help her with all the kindness of her pure heart.
Asuka needs to be better than someone, I mean she needs someone who'd be worse than she is and looked up at her, that would actually comfort her.
Oh right, almost forgot about that
She got 400% synchro when already had her guts out and spear in her head.
>BUUAHHH WHY BAKA SHINJI DIDN'T GIVE A HUG TO MAI WAIFU?!!!
>IT'S ALL BAKA SHINJI'S FAULT!!! MUH WAIFU IS PERFECT!!!
I still don't get how you can synchronize more than full synchronization
Synchro can be minus, why not transcend it?
standard sci-fi speech 100% is never to maximum
Do you remember the scale having mental contamination bar which they tried to avoid?
First you become EVA then you dissolve and become one with eva, the pilots weren't supposed to dissolve though.
Why didn't they just dissolve kids in the Evas so they wouldn't have to deal with their bullshit?
Fuck I can already imagine how they'll use her to hamfist Shinji/Asuka in the last film(forcing them together to make up etc)
Why are you discussing power levels in a show that couldn't possibly be more distant from the concept of shonen-tier power level bullshit?
I actually think their personalities are similar. They both hold rage deep inside. They both can't deal with emotions regarding their parents. They both pilot Evas because they want approval. They both are afraid of openning to other people.
>for being perfect
No, she was tank-bred with the sole purpose of being a pilot and hosting Lilith's soul.
Rei is not even a real person. She can't help anyone.
Well if sequel theory is right Mari is surely going to stop being a LAS shipper once she sees what happens in EoE. And then she is going to take Asuka for herself, 4.0 ends with the two making out on the shore
Then it pans out to Shinji by himself watching?
Everything would be different if he gave her a hug.
but what if she's their daughter
Nah, Shinji hasn't demeaned Asuka in that sort of way and clearly Mari does not mind this Shinji.
3 minutes are already enough to create a shipping if the relation between the characters is completely different to all the others they had, which is exactly why Mari and Asuka shipping is so common.
This was probably the most merciless but also most meaningful sequence.
>everything was going well
>bitch attempts sudoku
>life is over
>last effort, sudden realization
>reks 9 giant monsters
>yay everything is fine, giant monsturs are kill, psyche is healthy
>just kidding lol lance of longitude
Can't find a better or more awesome metaphor for the brutality of life
Do you remember mindfuck from EOE?
Shinji pretty much wanted to give her a hug but she turned it down.
That wasn't her. It was his fear.
That was Shinji's imagination. He was materializing his fear of rejection. That didn't happen for real
Fanwankers please. This is stated nowhere.
Once you get to Nirvana you don't rebirth anymore.
Almost nothing in EVA is stated. Most things are just fan theories.
Making out with her own mother is not a big deal, or at least that is what her father told her.
Another 2D4U thing I learned from Eva
Thanks and Fuck you Anno
That is another outright lie. EoE has it's incomprehensible shit but there's a reason this show is entry level.
Shinji was good at piloting Eva because mommy was doing it for him. Asuka was the best actual pilot.
>And if they follow the yaoi formula they'd just interact for a few minutes and then one of em will die.
And that is exactly what is going to happen
My bad, I worded that poorly. I was referring to EoE and instrumentality.
It's... very difficult to keep track of all the things in the original series. I wonder if I should try my luck with the rebuild continuity.
>Also, that episode.
Why do you think she hates the other pilots so much?
That happens during the fuckup in the LCL sea. Literally everything that happens during that sequence didn't happen.
If you're retarded enough to think that Shinji may have strangled Asuka at home and something this relevant was never mentioned neither had visible influence and consequence on the cast's actions -which is per se something extremely retarded or that only faggots with no notions of writing and directing could believe-, then you have the burden of proof.
It was more like
Shinji tried to get close to Asuka, for exampl after the mindrape, but Asuka is too proud and fucked up to even admit to have a problem.
Besides, don't act like Shinji was responsable for Asuka's emotional health. He had his own bullshit to deal with
That was virtual communication.
Like talking to people in internet, except I can't strangle you, but you don't think I'm your imagination, do you?
>I wonder if I should try my luck with the rebuild continuity.
They're still mutually exclusive though.
Well the strangling would have been directly before her suicide attempt and the coffee pot does get knocked over. However this is also the point where she learns about Kaji's death so who knows.
Anno wanted to include an awkward sex scene between Shinji and Asuka on NGE but the production was a fucking nightmare
Now that's a citation needed if I ever saw one.
Obviously no one means they were suddenly at home and not in lcl, retard. Your claims of symbolism are what are fanwank.
There was a sex scene. Here and with Kaji and Misato.
>They're still mutually exclusive though.
Really? Well I think I got the point across anyway
>That was virtual communication.
No that wasn't. I want to kill you and fuck your corpse and I dream about it, but that doesn't mean that I'll do it or that I really want to do it. My dream is a materialization of a temporary emotion.
The same goes for everything that happens after Shinji gets tang'd until he washes up on the shore.
The simple fact that the hypothesis that the strangling really happened implies that scene to be the only real one among all the imagery in the mindfuck is alone enough to discard that hypothesis.
No director would do something that awkward and plainly wrong, moreso if the director is Anno motherfucking Hideaki.
Still on the directing/storywriting side, if that really happened, how come that we don't see the least hint that it really happened and the slightest reaction/consequence on the main cast? Do you think that Anno would put something that big in the show without exploiting it in the story? All we have is that scene during the mindfuck.
That is independent and per se since it was with no doubt a product and materialization of Shinji's fears, frustration and conflicted emotions
Come again? Why I never know this thing?
That was LCL sex, not a flashback.
Because he's full of shit.
>Really? Well I think I got the point across anyway
Not exactly for me. Does she get fully liberated, or does she start anew?
>doesn't happen for real
>happens in LCL which is literally a pool of mind/soul
>bodies and tangible things don't exist
How the fuck isn't this symbolic?
Ok. Liberated then. She sure doesn't look like she left her past self
I feel like /a/ talks about EoE more than the original series because they don't understand the last two episodes
I never said it was a flashback, what the hell are you on?
The tang shit is actually happening in the real world to everyone, it's not symbolic.
LCL was not a dream , or it was a connected dream of many people. When Shinji talked to Rei and kaworu those were real Rei and Kaworu talking to him, not his dream, and that stuff with Asuka - it was Asuka, not his dream about Asuka.
That's the theory people like to throw around when that scene gets brought up.
No, because the last two episodes were far easier to understand and you have to be /v/ for not to understand them
Fuyutsuki proposed that inevery meeting. It got tediousafter a while.
LCL is not a fucking dream. It's not just Shinji's nightmare.
Did you even watch the show?
Because no one will ever understand
you should read up on buddhism since she is clearly not liberated in the sense of Nirvana
>outperformed by an autist who spent all his life floating in a LCL tube
That got to hurt.
Shinji was a direct reason why Asuka was so unstable at the end. He became a better pilot, he was interacting with Rei more. It was jealousy in more way than one. That's why she lashes out on Rei. Kaiji's death was a factor but not critical. She never really loved him. To her he was just a way to look more adult and experienced. His death hurt her pride more than anything else.
Not as much as when she got eaten by his clones.
Nothing is happening physically. Nothing. Bodies do not exist. The only thing that happens is the exchange of unfiltered, unadultered, raw emotions since AT fields do not exist anymore and everything is souls merged one into another without "privacy" and the walls of self, body and AT field.
Everything you see in that sequence is not real, Shinji never actually rested on Rei's lap, he never stood up in the bedroom while Misato and Kaiji were bunnyfucking, he never strangled Asuka. All that shit is just as real as Asuka's mindfuck with Arael.
What actually happened is the unfiltered dialogue and mental interaction between all of them. Yes, Shinji clashed with Asuka, he spoke with Rei and with Yui but everything was raw and unrestricted since there was no barrier of self anymore.
I'll never actually kill and fuck you anon, but if now that's my feeling and if now suddenly everything is LCL, I'll do it. But it would still be an expression of myself and nothing more since we would have no body to begin with.
Instead of 30 mins of an orange broth exchanging opinions and emotions within itself, Anno showed us the same thing but symbolically reenacted with fictional bodies and things.
How the fuck isn't that symbolism, really, it's not that difficult, I feel like talking to clinical retards
I mean Asuka's mental issue that is being addressed is the need to be validated by others due to low self esteem created by parents that didn't love her. She lost her sense of validation (piloting the EVA) and it destroyed her as a person. Boys stopped fawning over her and Shinji never really gave her the time of day anymore. She lost her sense of validation and in result attempted to kill herself. She both hates everyone and needs everyone at the same time it's rull sad
She might not have really loved him beyond a crush, but he was important to her, probably the closest thing she had to a parental figure.
>outperformed by Gay Alien Jesus
Nah, not really
Yes it didn't happened physically but it was what happened in their "heads", not only in shinjis, they both had this mutual experience and both have memories of this.
so it's same as happening.
The hot coffe even did hurt Shinji even though his body didn't exist his mind did.
Misato is best Evangukian
EoE had tons ofrythm problems that make it quite easyto forget stuff. Forexample, I don'tquite remember every instance of people talking in the imaginary train or what episodes had that besides shinji being eaten by an angel. 25/26 make it harder to quite remember since it re uses footage like crazy.
No,those were the rei andkaworu that exist in his mind. He needs to fully open and become one to really connect with the rest, and there is no going back after that.
>Yes it didn't happened physically
>so it's same as happening
No it's not. If it were the same, why wanting to change everyone into LCL in the first place?
You quadruple nigger, the very purpose of turning into LCL was to destroy the mental barriers of self and force everyone to lower their defenses and let everyone else peep into them and viceversa.
So no, it's not the same as happening in reality implies overcoming even the barriers of self, filters of autocontrol and everything else that makes me repress the raw, instinctive, animal-like desire to kill and devour you.
What happened in the LCL DIDN'T have to overcome those barriers because the whole point of LCL was breaking those barriers down.
So no, it's really NOT the same as happening for real.
It's simple. She isn't the main character. Shinji is.
So Shinji is better and his giant robot is better.
I know that this show was designed to cater to the type of people that love to overthink and analyze and apply some deeper meaning to every minute detail but when it comes down to it, that's why. The "depth" of this show didn't allow for it to escape from one of the most basic rules of any shonen series.
Didn't Asuka strangulation scene happen before instrumentality?
Komm Susser Tod started to play only at the end of it.
my negro amigo
It isn't symbolism, it's alteredperseption.Just because there isn't a1 to 1 fiction to reality ratioit doesn't make it symbolism, it has to stand for something without a direct relation to be a symbolic relationship. I'drecommendo some Metz foryou.
That would explain why the fuck she ends up in hospital in the first place.
In TV we see her pretty much mindbroken but still conscious, in EOE she's on life support.
I said EoE but I meant the show. Sorry everyone,preparing the sudoku.
I mean that scene happened before everyone was turned into tang.
They cut the blood from the TV version. She tried to cut her wrists in the tub. You can see it in the director's cut.
>It isn't symbolism, it's alteredperseption
You got the message anyway. Regardless of the poor choice of words, the point is that what happened wasn't subjected to the limitations and filters of interactions in real life, therefore it can't be considered equivalent to strangling her in real life. I think I made myself clear in the previous post, even if it's altered perception and not symbolism.
Also, nigger what the fuck are you posting from?
I think it happened at the start while shinji was still tree.
Because Sync Ratio>All
Shinji had the best connection with his Eva in the series, so he was the most effective. Rei was never particularly effective.
Remember what she did at 300% in EoE after she realized the truth about her mom and deepened her connection?
No one fucking said everything is happening physically jesus fucking christ. Are you fucking retarded? Thank you for a pointless paragraph of fluff and missing the point!
That was kind of one the main points of her character dude. That's why, er, one of the reasons, she was a cunt to both to them
How could it happen when they are in evas and not tanged?
Than it could be a flashback to after kaworu's death but before instrumentality time.
>Hey Asuka, he's dead
>FUCK OFF HE'S NOT
>Hey, lets fug
and then she ends up in hospital.
And everything makes sense.
I've seen director's cut.
And from what I've seen she was found lying in the bath tub well, conscious, the water was clear, no razors, blood, nothing. It was like she was about to kill herself but didn't do it yet.
And nothing implied or said that she was hurt then. And her wrists were perfectly fine in room 303.
A netbook with a bad keyboard.
There a big difference between something being symbolic (being the stand infor a diferent concept) and not being real life.
ALSO, that wasn't Azuka, that was the Azuka that shinji has in hismind. We went through this when he became peepee inside the eva and with 25/26.
No. The point is that people apparently think
>strangling in LCL = strangling in real life
which is really not true because of this >>101148935
>happening in reality implies overcoming even the barriers of self, filters of autocontrol and everything else that makes me repress the raw, instinctive, animal-like desire to kill and devour you.
>What happened in the LCL DIDN'T have to overcome those barriers because the whole point of LCL was breaking those barriers down.
>How could it happen when they are in evas and not tanged?
The sameway Misato tried to hook up with shinji inside the eva that one time she was also everyone else.
It was Eva interacting with Shinji.
People seem to forget that while Evangelion has its share of deep ideas it's still very rooted in mecha genre. Most tropes and archtypes in it come from mecha anime. What Evangelion did is subvert them.
I know that, the other anon is the one who doesn't get first stage instrumentaization.
>There a big difference between something being symbolic etc
Come on don't be autistic now, I made myself pretty clear, the wrong use of the word "symbolism" on my behalf doesn't invalidate the concept which I think I've expressed well enough.
>ALSO, that wasn't Azuka
It has to be, they're in LCL and there literally isn't personal space in LCL. Everyone is constantly peeping in each other's soul and interacting with them like a network
It happened in Shinji's mind.
That would be too pointless.
It's either happened in their both minds connected with tang or did really happen.
>How Can Evas Be Real If Our Emotions Aren't Real
Here's a comparison of director's cut and the TV version.
I also noticed the fact she doesn't appear injured in room 303. It was probably just a mistake by the animators.
I'm not sure why I went with a z...
When you become peepee your first mix with your own mind and feelings, something pretty hard for people who live their lives closing as much as possible. The things they see in lcl state is their own mental images of the rest of the worl (the x who lives in your mind). They haveto go beyond that stage to unify with the rest (what happens in episodes 25/26)
Your waifu isn't perfect, deal with it.
>It's either happened in their both minds connected with tang or did really happen.
The hypothesis that it happened only in Shinji's mind is far more likely than the hypothesis that it did really, physically happen.
The truth is it happened in their minds connected with tang AND it wasn't equivalent to happening for real
It's not pointless. It represents the internal conflict that Shinji has. He is presented with his greatest fear and he makes his decision on how to deal with it. He chooses death.
> It was probably just a mistake by the animators.
Or it's just dirty war/rusty tub
It would be just as pointless as all the other times we went straight to some character's mind, have you forgotten the train sequences?
>He chooses death.
Never change Shinjuguu
>The hypothesis that it happened only in Shinji's mind is far more likely
It's not and that did not happen. You see everyone turn into orange juice and their consciousness becomes one. Tang Shinji is just interacting with tang Asuka.
This will need a huge citation, mang.
As far as we know, LCL means immediate, forced lowering of barriers of self and forced osmotic interaction with everyone else in the matrix.
I'm quite stoned at the moment so the first and best example that comes to my mind is the robots in Mass Effect. The Geth, yes
There is no way that happened in real life. No one mentions that somebody was strangling her and it didn't look like Shinji wanted to let her go.
Niggers, what the fuck did I just say?>>101149835
>The truth is it happened in their minds connected with tang
>The truth is it happened in their minds connected with tang
>The truth is it happened in their minds connected with tang
>Dirt or rust
Why edit a scene that just has rusty water? There's also the possibility that the cuts to her wrists have healed by the time we see her in EoE. Given the context it's pretty apparent she tried to commit suicide.
You are chosing to ignore the ending episodes of the show. Some people like to think that that's what happens inmediately after turning into tang.
There isn't a more correct answer, it's just two interpretations coming from certain data that you wish to include or not.
>Why edit a scene that just has rusty water?
probably because it looks like blood.
even if it's not, you can't really show that on TV...
Also, sudoku or not, it's pretty clear what her mental/emotional state is
I assumed it was one of those teen "I'll kill myself by not eating and not caring about my body anymore" kinda deals. The water edit was made by proucers so there was an audience though behind it and not so much a plot one.
I'm not ignoring anything at all.
To me the ending episodes look pretty consistent with the mindfuck in EoE. It's you who's trying to set an arbitrary distinction from a self-reflecting phase to a sharing phase.
I'm not even excluding this possibility but there is apparently no clue on that, unless you want to prove with citations.
It happened before everyone was turned into LCL. That scene was the trigger of instrumentality. Shinji chooses to kill everyone, destroy their physical forms.
So it looks so much like blood that it has to be edited but it's not blood because the suicidal girl didn't try to kill herself quite yet.
I'm not arguing for that guy, I'm just saying that could be why the editors changed it.
Because she sucks.
>Worse issues than Shinji and Rei
As far as Shinji is concerned, no she doesn't. Asuka grew up in a home where they at least TRIED to be hospitable, she just rejected them. Shinji was tossed around to relatives and ended up being the responsibility of his teacher. Both watched their mother die at a young age, Asuka WANTED to pilot the eva, Shinji was guilt tripped into doing it, everyone loved Asuka on the first day of school, Shinji got beat up for not being hero enough, need I go on?
I want to slap them fat cheeks red and then make love to her face
It all was triggered by Rei returning into her body. And it's neither death nor destruction, the tanging is more like immortality than death and you can come back once you're tanged.
Because the Evas are completely shit at fighting angels
You said the same thing last time.
Because I really want to.
Cheeks are love
Asuka cheeks are life
You only come back if you retain your at field, i.e. your personality. Ritsuko says so when they bring back shinji the first time.
Well, they do an acceptable job considering they were designed for something else..
How the fuck do you know that? We see absolutely nothing of Shinji and Asuka's lives before the start of the show. The only events from Asuka's childhood that we see are traumatic.
Yui said in EOE that if they have will to live they are gonna be great.
So if you want to go back you go, if you don't - that must mean you're happy with being tang.
If that was the case, it would alleviate even more the implications of the stranglement. Which was my original point
They even sing a song about death when it happens for dummies like you.
At least you're passionate about something.
As far as Shinji's living conditions, i missed it in the series but it's stated somewhere. Asuka's backstory is pretty much laid out for you while she was getting mind fucked.
I would let her punch my waifu without resentment if that meant fixing her from the soulless vat-grown doll she is to a healthy normal albino girl.
Rei a shit, but Gendo a motherfucking cruel cunt
>Hasn't watched Dance Like You Want to Win
She needed a week of work to get to what Rei could do right away.
>Not trusting evageeks
Even Reifags still use this.
Would you rather I tell you to rewatch the series?
I still love how Rei and Shinji got the steps right immediately.
Rei+Shinji>any duo with Asuka.
>trusting wikis ever
Might as well cite TVtropes.
Would also add that she never felt a connection with her EVA because she didn't want to rely on anyone. The EVA of course has her mother's soul in it but she only thought it was a tool or doll that just had to do what she told it to. However since it isn't and she could never see beyond that it never synced with her. The in End of EVA in fear she opened up to rely and cry for someone to help her because she didn't want to die, her EVA responded and she finally gained a connection with it.
After heading to Tokyo-3, she was reminded of her mother constantly, which caused her to lose her sync ratio almost entirely.
Maybe it's 're-birth into the life that reaches nirvana'. I kinda see where it's coming from.
I just rewatched EoE and when I got to the choking scene, I noticed something.
Asuka and Shinjis outfits and general set up of the scene are exactly like the kiss scene.
Shinjis mind is so fucked up in Instrumentality that he remembers this scene as rejection instead of the awkward as fuck first kiss it really was.
So who would you say had the worse childhood Asuka or ShinjI?
Because natural talent > practice and theory.
Asuka is quite possibly the most annoying and bitchiest character to ever exist.
Shinji's problem was absence, which is already bad enough, Asuka's was rejection, loss and hate.
Shinji lost his mother on an odd and quick accident when he was very young and he barely can remember it, Asuka saw her mother going mad and ultimately killing herself and was old enough to remember it.
Asuka's step mother rejecting her was way more vocal than Gendo rejecting Shinji, there was that scene where she tell Asuka's father that she wants to have nothing to do her, that she is scary and she can just quit being her mother.
The girl had it rough, I would go as far to say that she had the shittiest life of all Eva characters, and that's why you have so many fan artwork of kid Asuka being hugged or happy.
That is one of the problems that lead Asuka to her serious mental issues at the end of the series. When she first appeared in ep.8 and in the few next episodes she wanted to accomplish her missions alone, but Gendo and mostly Misato didn't let her, so that made her fall again in her traumas.
I think Asuka had the worst childhood. Shinji lost his mother and Asuka lost her, was intimidated by her step mother, and precociously involved with the Eva project.
Her childhood was a terrible nightmare and she couldn't relate to other children; she had no one to care about her, people only cared about her if she was the best in trainings, so she based her self-esteem on her marks.
wow she likes melons
I like her melons too
>She likes melons
>She likes Shinji
what's your point
Shinji, Asuka, and Rei Q are going to stumble upon Kaji's watermelon farm at the start of 4.0. They then spend the rest of the film helping Kaji plant and raise watermelons in an effort to reintroduce fresh food back into the world. At the end, Anno himself makes an appearance to deliver some environmental impact piece before chomping into a fresh slice of watermelon on screen.
Ha, I remember that thread.
>rei had no soul
>shinjis mom was the EVA
>askua was sexualy frustrated because shinji wouldn't dick her
I honestly wouldn't be all that mad at Anno if that actually did happen, or rather, I wish it would happen since the 4.0 Anno has in mind for his fans will probably be PSA of a whole different kind.
this is more fitting
Rei has a soul that becomes less and less according to the clone (See REI I REI II REI III)
Shinji's Mom's soul was in the EVA.
Asuka tried to look for comfort in every place she knew, she wasn't sexually frustated, just depressed like a heartbroken 14 year old.
/v/ gave Hideo a card, but I get a feeling /a/ will never give Anno anything.
Because talent > hardwork.
Are you talking about Rebuild or NGE?
Last time I checked Kojima actually thought of his fans as more than japbux dispensers.
But seriously, Anno gets his fair share of appreciation from the nips.
NGE obviously. Who can even discuss Rebuild. Those aren't canon.
>Kojima actually thought of his fans as more than japbux dispensers.
Did he? Some /a/non posted this a while back.
He either the devil or god of Anime for /a/ yes only extremes exist
That has nothing to do with Kojima.
/a/ is being both serious and ironic when they refer to Anno as the master after all.
muh bad, read that wrong. Have Asuka as penance
Thanks. I don't know much about Kojima as a director other than the fact he really loves inserting allusions to western films into his games and that he's alright.
I think this kind of question is no different from the suffering contests "My pain is greater than yours" deem of edgemasters and shallow teens.
It's not like you can quantify pain, and in addiction it's also about how you live it.
One could say that the most fucked up childhood was Asuka's one, but the one who personally suffered the most for how he lived it was Shinjuguu. But this is just wank talk
I love how uguu has become the go to suffix for just about every EVA character at this point.
Because Asuka is worst girl
>afw the time loops are confirmed in 4.0
Goddamnit I miss the old 02..fuck that rebuild shit. You were the best, Nigouki. Never forget ;_;
>Ark being mad
Why would you bully an emotionally unstable little girl?
Given how much of her neuroses came from wanting to fuck Shinji near the back end (and that one bit from the Director's Cut of 22 where she's on her hands and knees crying on the other side of the partition), this is probably true.
Asuka really liked Shinji and Shinji never really realized it because Asuka shows her affection by being a huge bitch.
>nude photos of ARK
You're looking for the "coming to God" moment, and then rebirth.
uguu only works on those two faggots
because she bullies emotionally unstable little boys and girls
Wonder what she saw in him. Probably just teens being teens though.
Did asuka feel those licks?
01 is fine too, but OP MC syndrome.
>Wonder what she saw in him.
The finest piece of ass in all of Evangelion.
Yui didn't really seem like an angry person.
Kawaii gaijin tits
>inb4 Mario pic
>the whiter you are the less able you are to pilot.
While we as the audience realize how much of a little bitch Shinji can be, he's actually pretty cool in-universe to Asuka.
>Ace Eva pilot
>Single-handedly beat two Angels
>Doesn't seem to give a fuck about boring stuff
>Has friends and a hot caretaker who Asuka knows
>Kind of cute in a girly sort of way
>Pliant enough to make Asuka feel in control, strong enough to not be Asuka's bitch
>Live together and know each other intimately after Dance Like You Want To Win!
>Shinji relies on her as a symbol of strength.
They're actually pretty good for each other. If Ayanami had her shit together more and acted as the brains/heart of the outfit, the three of them would be a perfect team.
I would a Kaori
Isn't Kaworu a non-gender name though?
Rei is very empathetic and caring in her own head, she's just got the autism. Remember her little poem and that bit of knowledge she dropped after Matariel? Or her case in Episode 26? Or shit, her attempts to reach out to Asuka at one of Asuka's lowest moments?
There's enough of Yui still in Ayanami that she could be an emotional anchor to both Shinji and Asuka.
She was fucking scary.
Now think of your mother as a monster that will guro anything that endangers you and rip apart 4 dimensional monsters like no one's business
What would you do if a wounded, unconscious Asuka washed up next to you on the beach?
Eva could have had a great group dynamic build up throughout the series. Instead it all tumbled down.
Something like pic related
Take her home.
Don't ask anything.
Force-feed her eggs. Wear a cape and high boots during all this
If only it weren't so realistic.
Take a knocked out selfie. Nosebleed
>Force-feed her eggs
That guy was stupid as hell.
Cynical is the word I would use.
Yui-chan is the best momma.
Anno's a pretty strange guy.
Hard to believe that this milf..
I was thinking of that stupid pasta, too.
Anyway, I'd strangle her until she woke up.
Yeah, I don't think he got enough hugs as a child.
They did have a good group dynamic.
In The Day Tokyo 3 Stood Still, they worked together and defeated the angel in the shortest time in the series. Also when they caught Sahaquiel.
Not really. She left her only child at the mercy of this asswipe just so she can go off and achieve immortality.
Shes a crappy pilot.
It's not Yui's fault that Gendo is every bit as bad as Shinji.
Whether or not she foresaw Gendo's autism, or was even playing him, SEELE, and the rest is another matter entirely.
They had a team dynamic when Misato was there to tell them to knock their shit off.
She suffers from Dunning-Kruger effect. She is actually pretty incompetent.
I really don't like Yui and her ideals, for me she was a greedy bitch that just could't keep her feets on the ground.
> after Zeruel
Quite before, she was getting worse since episode 16 at least, perhaps even before.
I would like to have both Rei and Rei Q, so I would have a girl to love and a girl to abuse.
Do you have to say this in every thread
>mother actually kills herself to ensure her child's survival and let him decide what he wants for himself and for the world
>ensures the eternal survival of mankind's soul in the universe in the process
>also pulls the strings of every smartass who thought they were hot shit (Seele, Gendo)
She's literally god-tier.
fap over her
God tier who gets to spend the rest of eternity alone.
Do you think shinji had sex with her after EoE or is she still pure for me?
How come Asuka's mom only decided to connect with her at the very last moment? It's not like they ever had any kind of progression where she stopped hating Asuka. Seemed like something that just came out of nowhere in EoE.
They totally had angry hate sex every single day as everyone else watched from the Tang.
>attracted to women
I'd have angry hate sex every single day IN the Tang.
What is the point of becoming the proof of mankind's existence if in the process you deny both your humanity and mankind itself?
It is as silly as trying to meet your dead wife by triggering human instrumentality.
>3.0 ever relevant
Kaworu did say that her soul was dormant in the Eva.
She was there, but not awake. She awoke because Asuka didn't want to die and she wanted her to live
So it would just be like instrumentality.
>He doesn't remember the bath scene.
>It is as silly as trying to meet your dead wife by triggering human instrumentality.
Sounds like a plan to me.
I'm sorry anon, not everyone can be you
Those characters in Rebuild aren't going to give birth to themselves you know.
Any introverted sociopath like Shinji would act that way if you had a guy like Kaworu next to you on a public bath.
But 3.0 scene was over the line
We are waiting for Mari's dna exams, but I think it is already too late Anon.
well maybe i'm their father
He'd hold hands with him and then later recount to Misato that he loved him?
Kid's about as strait as a circle bro.
He tried to kiss Asuka and always got flustered by Misato and Asuka.
Remeber that Shinji was starved for affection at the point Kaworu was introduced. Gender be damned, Shinji would take anyones love at that point
But the whole relation with the wife is based on two individuals separated by AT fields, you can't just trigger instrumentality and have your wife back because in the process you are destroying all relationships between humans, including the one you had with your wife.
>not just being bi
He's 14, he hasn't totally come to terms with his homosexual identity yet.
Misato walks as if she's got a stick up her ass and Shinji walks as if he LIKES getting sticks up his ass.
He's probably like a 4 on the Kinsey scale.
>Introduces the concept of "Curse of Eva"
>Don't uses it to introduce a loli pilot
That would make an interesting parallel, seeing as they both remember being rejected by the other
Asuka never opened up
Are you kidding? They hold hands and sleep side by side under the same pile of blankets every night. Don't be naive. Where else would Mari have come from?
please, this is a christian imageboard
Wow, an entire thread about Asuka that at no point was an image dump or waifu war.
Asuka is olev
I liked Rei for years before realizing what a good girl Asuka is.
Christ, anon. Thats the lewdest thing I've ever heard. Keep it PG
I don't understand why /a/ hasn't made a danbooru scraper so I can download ALL of the Asukas.
aint that the truth
>tfw only Shinikami figs available
You're a good man
It's just biology, baka. Or did you not know how babies were made?
Everyone knows the stork delivers babies, don't be a pervert
The stork, right?
>invents moe, opening the door for Madoka and Yuki Nagato
>is the qtest
>a real friend
>tries her best despite her autism
>invents being a huge bitch, opening the door for Kirino and every generic childhood friend
>not even capable of being friends
>gives up after, like, two setbacks, even worse than Shinji
Asuka has a shit-tier personality, I don't understand why anyone would like a broken attention whore.
the manga shows shiniji, and i dont know ehre auskas extended story is but i know it exists
This is a bully free zone.
why is asuka lying ontop of some weird girl?
Kyoko pls go
Fight me nerd.
thats just asking for that shot of shinji with cum on his hand over asuka, anyways and then it goes back to them, they look over, and see shiniji jerking in a bush, and asuka goes to chase him, and mari holds her back, and lets him watch
I'll have you know I'm a certified badass.
Did you somehow miss all those ReTake threads we had for the last week? It was the first time in a while we could actually discuss EVA without the thread devolving into the usual metafaggotry.
Of course you are
Nobody ever asked you, Kone Megane.
dont care he is a gay alien, id perform with him if you know what i mean
>the old (extra terrible) doujin scanlation
>that unfathomably awful MS Paint job
They threw me out of Cromartie because I was too mean for them.
Also I eat only the top of my muffins.
What if Asuka is Mari and Shinji's daughter from the future?
I don't have ReTake saved on my hard drive, so I just grabbed whatever.
That would make Rebuld a prequel and make Mari the winner...
>Also I eat only the top of my muffins.
You sick fuck.
What is there to talk about with ReTake all of a sudden?
>Rebuild is a prequel
>What they're Rebuilding from is the EoE from another prequel series TBA after 4.0
It's how LASfags deal with their anger over 3.0
I don't know either, we barely talked about ReTake later on if at all. it's just for some reason those threads didn't go to shit as quickly like usual as in the other EVA threads.
Mari wouldn't be a good Kyoko, she would hug Asuka instead of strangling her.
>id perform with him if you know what i mean
You mean you have shit tastes?
Some guy brought up how Retake being made into a movie would've been better than the Rebuilds a week or two ago.
he's probably right
Re-Take DID get made into a movie.
Like Reifriends talking about 2.0.
Truly, 3.0 let everyone who isn't a landlocked cetacean down.
Mari would have made a great older sister to Asuka-chan.
It also got a soundtrack.
As experimental as you'd expect something Evangelion-related to sound.
3.33 doesn't count because Kawoguu.
Congratulations Anon, you just got the point of her character.
What do Asukafriends/LASfriends have to be angry about in 3.0?
But seriously, they barely interacted if that was supposed to be her purpose.
>getting mad about Rebuild
This something that reifags do
>having a point
Damn anon, that's a good joke.
I wish they would've dragged that scene out an agonizingly long time, to echo the original series. Also to make the yaoi beasts they were selling 3.0 to cry evry tim.
It has no purpose, fetish appeal, two bouncing breasts, and is the new hot ticket item to ship Asuka with.
It's different, but I kinda like it
Except you know, Mari ships LAS herself.
What are the odds that Shinji will survive Rebuild?
What are the odds that Shinji will end up with one of the girls at the end of Rebuild?
What are the odds that Rebuild 4.0 will save the Rebuild series, and thus, anime?
>What are the odds that Shinji will survive Rebuild?
25%. Japan wants him dead.
>What are the odds that Shinji will end up with one of the girls at the end of Rebuild?
Assuming he lives? 75%, but it will be open and vague.
>What are the odds that Rebuild 4.0 will save the Rebuild series, and thus, anime?
I'm sure he;ll stay alive. Even if they do want Shinji dead, I imagine they would have done it by now.
It's gonna be Asuka's next victory, hands down.
And 4.0 will have to be another EoE to save anime. Rebuilds really are in a tight spot right now.
That EoE magic will likely never be recaptured. All I'm hoping is that Cruel Angel's Thesis plays at some point. Probably the credits.
It is not something exclusively related to Asuka.
She is impressively sympathetic to all pilots, including Rei Q that was her enemy.
Also Anno always had this big focus on making she looks more mature than the others pilots and all that.
I really see Mari as a take on the older sister archetypes, and that is how she breaks Eva, one of the reason why NGE tumbled down was because of the distance between the kid's world and the adult's world and now we have Mari who is both a child and someone who understands the adult world.
This doesn't play I'm gonna buy the 4.0 BD just so I can burn it
I wouldn't think that The Master would be the kind of guy to throw in a callback like that, especially considering how he had little to no say in what NGE's theme music was.
However, 3.0 proves that he wants japbux over all else, so you may just get your wish.
God, I miss the old soundtrack
This is what you'll get.
Why they made lamps on 02 into eyes in rebuild?
Curse of Eva is a curse of being an important fictional character in a popular franchise.
It's the curse of having to maintain an immature body to push merchandise you don't even know you're selling.
ive seen the hate, but i HATED eva more then any other anime i have seen, then i saw mari, and i had to re watch it, and i had to watch rebuild, i needed to know about this girl, i was impressed, she shoothed my eva hate, i dont hate it anymore, because it gave me mari
Usually by the same people
>a real human being
>a real human bean
She was never that good, she was just obnoxious about it. And she made being "The Eva Pilot" her sole identity (like Shinji tried to do in his desperation) so she was that much more vulnerable to the slightest defeat.
This is the worst post I've ever seen.
If Shinji didn't have beserker mode he would be just as useful (or useless) as everyone else. Asuka and Rei are jobbers for the most part.
I can't believe I've read every single post in this thread.
I've been rewatching the series for the last two weeks (my first time was maybe 4 years ago); anything I should keep my eyes peeled for? I just passed the big Leliel episode, so I'm ready for the density to just pile on from here.
Yesterday someone explained to me the whole Ritsuko killing Kaji theory so yeah, anything else easily missed?
Also, Misato>everyone else
Consider that Yui was the true mastermind behind Instrumentality, if you haven't already.
Assuming post Third Impact scenario,
Pick her up, firefighter carry.
Find something that could be used for shelter and protection from elements.
Clean her up, dress wounds as best possible.
Start scavenging for materials, priority on medical equipment, food and water.
Hope she wakes up pretty soon, otherwise she's likely suffered serious brain injury and will die without some sort of brain surgery that'd be way beyond my ability to provide.
>>just kidding lol lance of longitude
Why did I laughed so hard at this?
You're mom a shit.
>none because it's not gonna be a girl if you know what I mean
So is Rei
My favourite was Retake and I wish we could get an adaption of it.
But theres already a movie for it.
I like Asuka more than Rei but I don't understand people who want Retake adaptation. Do you really want to see a shoddily written fanfiction where Rei just kills herself because she realized how utterly inferior she is to Asuka?
>Do you really want to see a shoddily written fanfiction where Rei just kills herself because she realized how utterly inferior she is to Asuka?
We don't need fanfiction to realise establish facts.