>Saber centered confirmed
>no True Assassin
>Gil in his UBW clothes
Confirmed for mixed routes and trainwreck.
I'd still watch it.
>Rider licking her chain
>Showing her boobs
>Showing her ass
>no Archer ideals
>no Rin rage after Kirei tells her that he killed daddy
>no UBW fight
I don't get it.
Are they doing all 3 routes again?
>Saber, Archer and Rider are the three center-featured Servants
>Saber is the main Servant in Fate
>Archer is the main Servant in UBW
>Rider is the main Servant in HF
Mix of all three routes.
Nothing confirmed. Again. How long do we have to wait for the next info dump?
so no love interest?
They said it will be Saber-centered. What do that means? Fate.
They said Nasu gave them extra ideas to expand some info. Meaning? Mixed shit.
And now this visual with Gil with no spiky Fate hair. Meaning? Mixed shit.
WHY IS SHE LICKING HER WEAPON
>They said it will be Saber-centered. What do that means? Fate.
They said the PV would be Saber-centered.
It's anime original. We don't know how much it'll be based on what routes, all we know is that Nasu gave the writers a massive infodump and they're going from there.
So we could get good points from all the routes + some extra new stuff and no cooking with Shirou bullshit?
I don't know if I should feel disapointed by the fact is not HF or excited there's the possibility we might end up cuming at the end of every episode
Don't fail me Ufotable
More news at 8.
They said it's going to be more serious like Zero...but that you should still look forward to the comedy scenes, really. So...probably cooking still.
Cooking is the life and soul of FSN. They better keep it.
Only good thing is, since it's new material, the threads will be more fun to follow since there will be a lot of discussion of what might happen.
The cooking sounds as though it's still in.
Fate is saved!
>series ends with enough twisting for the possibility of F/E
I know it's impossible but I can dream
Sometimes I look at threads like this and wonder why you fags are so damn pessimistic.
Don't judge shit you haven't tried yet, is all I'm saying. Have no expectiation, and you won't be disappointed.
This was the malified text of it
>According to the upcoming issue of Newtype Ace, the previously announced anime adaptation of visual novel Fate/stay night will be a TV series broadcast in Fall 2014. The source vaguely mentioned that it will be a new story outside of the original work that told by Kinoko Nasu, but is very important and near Fate/Zero in terms of feeling and atmosphere. It was further stated that Shirou Emiya will play a more central role in the new series, and some of the characters' outfits will also be modernized from their original designs.
It leaves out the bit about "look forward to the comedy as well" which they really said.
>implying it won't be a "greatest hits" compilation that will make all other routes pale in comparison.
I'm not sure how to feel about these details.
I am a Saberfag, but I'd much rather see a UBW or HF route since the Fate route is too lighthearted in general. I'd rather see them make a glorious remake of the other routes since it would definitely be easier to do and it would make more sense.
Fate is my favourite series so I will watch it, and I'll probably love it as long as they don't do a horrible job of combining the route elements.
Dark Sakura better not be in this.
Because we've all been hurt before and don't want it to happen again.
It's easy to say "expect nothing", which is what I do almost all the time, but when it gets a new anime by Ufotable, you get a little bit hype.
then they reveal more and more about it and it's just going to be a clusterfuck with SEQUEL TO FATE/ZERO hovering over it, everyone gets pissed off.
Except people who want a sequel to that shit.
>Confirmed for mixed routes and trainwreck.
Quit forcing this trainwreck shit. Go back to jerking off to Guillotine Gorilla or Saki.
Don't you know magical blades are delicious?
The routefag tears will be delicious.
Did you know that the term "trainwreck," even in this metaphorical form, actually predates 4chan by a number of years? It's true, I looked it up.
You have a point, but is hard keeping your standars low after all that cock teasing Ufotable has given us
It's Saber, she'd have a good chance of being in the center of a Tsukihime promo picture she's that popular.She plays a big role in HF anyway
>Gil in his UBW clothes
He wears them in HF though.I can't recall if he does when attacking Sakura but he does when hanging at the church.
>No True Assassin
Well of course, fake assassin needs to be maimed first.
I'm still thinking HF being adapted with the main bulge of new anime original additions being for Gil and Saber, Gil especially since he rarely appears when compared to Zero.Still, even in his little airtime he acts a-lot like he does from Zero so it would make sense for anime only fags.
Am I the only one here who 1. have played the VNs, and 2/ am glad that they're doing a semi-new route?
The other routes, I already read/watched from the VN. Now this will be something that could surprise me. Now I can experience something new without constantly comparing it with the original source.
Stop with that shit about Saber centered, they NEVER said that, they were talking about that PV that we got weeks ago.
>It's Saber, she'd have a good chance of being in the center of a Tsukihime promo picture she's that popular.She plays a big role in HF anyway
This is true
You forgot the cave and the grail tower behind Saber's head.
Will we get 2D or 3D dragon this time?
>She plays a big role in HF anyway
>Not reduced to a mid level boss.
What if they're trying to do something that follows up on Zero and then leads into HA?
Is it even sane to think of HA getting adapted?
Why people is still going with the whole ORIGINAL ROUTE where we debunked that translation yesterday like a thousand times? Is people that retarded to believe in bad translations by the MAL folks?
>Confirmed for mixed routes and trainwreck
Fuck off. This isn't like DEEN's adaptation. Nasu is heavily involved in this new content, whether it's a new route or not.
>not doing hideous CG
>Is it even sane to think of HA getting adapted?
It's getting a Vita port so...
Did you watch the preview and see them flags
Okay, put yourselves in the shoes of Ufotable.
You have to create an original route that feels coherent and expands upon everything we've seen in Fate/zero.
That means Kotomine has to have a major role, Zouken has to be in there too, no reason not to include true assassin...
I thought Lancelot was purposefully made like that to re-enact the description in the novel when he appeared.
But we don't even know if it's an original route or not.
We just know that they have new content by Nasu, and they even imply that more than a new route is more like new background info not present in any material.
>no reason not to include true assassin..
She spends 5 days of a 15 day story as your servant, it's made into a huge deal when you first see alter and you run into her again and again, you fucking kill her with your bare hands.You're also forgetting the mandatory extra screen time she will get because it's Saber, she'll play a big role.
I kinda like how he was the only sane man in the Matou camp in HF.
Why do they HAVE to?
Why couldn't they just fucking remake the visual novel, all routes and do OVAs for the last bad ends? Or a dream sequence or something?
Don't give me that "it's boring, you might as well just play the VN"
No, because that's the whole point of making it a fucking anime instead.
they don't HAVE to do an original route, when all the hard work is all right there in fucking front of them. They just have to animate it, which it seems they already have a good bit done.
So will I, and not only that but I'll save it in my hard drive for posterity
We've already seen similar assassins servants in Zero, so why not include him?
They NEVER said it was going to be Saber-centered. They just said that the PV was going to be Saber-centered, which it was because of the Fate/Zero recap and the Are you my Master?
He's a great jobber though, he gave Archer that cool line and Kotomine looked glorious taking on a servant.
Maybe they don't have the budget to animate all 3 routes.
Also it's boring, anime doesn't work like VN. Look what Deen did when they tried to do what you said.
Remakes are not boring to watch. They're boring to make.
Excuse my /v/ analogy, but this is the same reason why /v/irgins keep asking for HD remakes of their old favorite vidyas but never got them. Cause if you're a creator with some self-respect, you want to create new things, not just rehashing on your old successes.
Or maybe I'm just projecting here. HD remakes are boring IMO.
Shiro, Rin, and Saber get a new garment
・セイバーにあの白いブラウスと紺スカートプラスして上に上着 For the White blouse and blue skirt there will be an additional of coat or jacket
New everyday cloth for shirou and rin
Taiga's stripped pattern clothes is still there but as a normal girl's wear
The total of the scenario went up by 50 % of the original one
The off record will also finished in a couple of episode
The situation and atmosphere will be made more serious close to zero series
You will also feel that there still a connection to zero series
However, I want you all to look forward to the comical scenes too
I want to draw Shirou exactly as a protagonist this time
Well, they never closed the possibility to animate all routes even if for some reason people thinks it was said it will be an original route when the magazine says nothing about such a thing.
Is it at least confirmed tomorrow will be the routes or anime original announcements? Cause I can't take 3/4 of a year not knowing if it's original bullshit.
>don't have the budget
>for Fate/Stay Night
>something that literally prints money
>not having the money/taking the risk to make fucking millions
>The total of the scenario went up by 50 % of the original one
What does this mean?
>Look what Deen did when they tried to do what you said.
Yeah, Deen's only problem was they were too strict following the source material.
>The total of the scenario went up by 50 % of the original one
I believe that's supposed to say it's 50% completed.
No, we already know everything that was said in the magazine, and it basically this >>101144544, Nasu supervising and new content by Nasu (said mostly to be new background info, not a new route like some believe).
She spends the entirely of Fate as Shirou's servant and eleven days in Unlimited Blade Works. She's just a foil for Shirou to let go of his ideal in Heaven's Feel because he came to the fact that he can't save everyone so he kills her in order to save Sakura.
>Well, they never closed the possibility to animate all routes
Feels like a waste, 2 of the routes have already been made into anime form and they aren't advertizing it as a heaven's feel adaptation.
> for some reason people thinks it was said it will be an original route when the magazine says nothing about such a thing.
If it's not heaven's feel it's obviously something original meant as a sequel to F/Z.
Come on moon runers, help us
Looks like Jouji is ready
Kotomine route confirmed
Your denial is showing, HFfag.
But we don't even know if it is HF or not, the info we had is very very limited and the poster doesn't say shit, as it got just all the vanilla Servants, casual Gil and the Grail cave.
Right now, it could be anything. Is obvious that it will be no the same as the game, but going saying now that is an ORIGINAL NEW ROUTE is just misinformation.
Obviously Fate is her biggest role it goes without saying.My point in the post is she plays a big enough role in H/F that 'Saber won't get enough screen time' isn't a valid point.
Amazing. It's all that matters.
>Shiro, Rin, and Saber get a new garment
If they replace Shirou's shirt..
It's now the 30th 12:00 AM in japan, so the magazine can now officially go on sale.
Depending on your definition of original, but it could be any route just with new elements added to it to make sense in anime form and that would not be a "new original route".
>but going saying now that is an ORIGINAL NEW ROUTE is just misinformation.
No it's a logical deduction.
-It's not called F/SN Heaven's feel.
-They aren't going to adapt all 3 routes because that makes no sense
-It's meant to be viewed after Fate/Zero
The only possibility left for it is something original with elements of all 3 routes + new stuff.
Ufotable saved animu
>No Mind of steel ED
Better be on blurays
>They aren't going to adapt all 3 routes because that makes no sense
Give a reason
Has Nasu or anyone ever came out and basically said DEEN's portrayal was disappointing/shit?
It mays mean one or the other, the beauty of moonspeak.
But in general when you talk about the 脚本, 上げる means the degree of completion.
>Blurays have alternate endings
>Sparks Liner High
Oh fucking god I'd order them in a god damn heartbeat
We need to be serious here, we need to discuss what's important.
This is UFOtable. So there's a good chance, a very good chance...that they'll keep the sex, right?
Deen already made 2 out of 3.
It would take a lot of time.
>So there's a good chance, a very good chance...that they'll keep the sex, right?
>Millions in preorders all over again
>No it's a logical deduction.
More like pulling it out of your ass.
>It's not called F/SN Heaven's feel.
They are not DEEN, they don't have to follow their conventions.
>They aren't going to adapt all 3 routes because that makes no sense
>It's meant to be viewed after Fate/Zero
No, they said that even with the connection to Zero, they want to make it stand on its own.
At this point I don't care if there's a sex scene, all they need to do is not to do something retarded like the mana transfer dragon.
UFOtable has already shown sex before in a Nasu work.
KnK were movies, not TV, so you can show much more.
No explicit sex was shown in Fate/Zero.
Yeah, but I doubt they would put anything like that in a tv anime.
Have you been living under a rock? Nasu used the porn to establish his works, and he's been distancing himself from it ever since.
They better do each route in like 12 episodes then at the end they have the hint of a new route like what Fate and UBW had at it's end. Give a few months break and then start up another route, afterwards they can dump alternate endings on the Blurays (Sparks liner high, Mind of steel, ect) and a OVA Showing Last episode.
Also may i add, I WANT MY FUCKING TIGER DOJOS ANIMATED AS THE PREVIEWS UFOTABLE!
I think Ufotable should adapt HF for the reason that Hollow Ataraxia generally follows after the events in HF. That way they can animate Hollow Ataraxia while staying true to the plot continuity that they're seemingly trying to do.
The scenes could easily be censored or pan off. Think about the BD merits.
>for the reason that Hollow Ataraxia generally follows after the events in HF.
Are you by chance retarded?
Have you been living under a rock? It's widely agreed it fit the nature of the story and its world quite well even if Nasu didn't write the scenes with much grace or skill.
>retarded like the mana transfer dragon.
Reminder for those who forgot the beautiful moment.
Fucking this a million times this!
Ataraxia follows a mixed continuity.
I do not see the problem here.
Fate Zero could have easily had sex scenes, it has a much more 'mature' vibe than Stay Night too.It's not happening.
Which backfired with that Aoko vn.
No. There were no sex scenes in the novel.
Not sure if serious...
>Hollow Ataraxia generally follows after the events in HF
Even with the whining, Mahoyo sold pretty good. Not FSN levels, but pretty good even so.
The only good thing about that was the art, music and girls.
And the fights. Mahoyo was pretty decent overall, is just that we only got part 1.
>Immature people can't deal with sex or the fact that actual magical rituals going back millenia have used sex all over the world
If they make another saber centric anime I will be mad.
They need to make a UBW adaptation. The best route. The film was a disaster.
But it was hilarious.
Agreed. We need a better Ilya.gif
Shh, just revel in the one true King
The true king of cock sucking.
Jesus christ this is why I hate route fanboys. Hollow Ataraxia is a sequel to the temporal mishmash of all three routes due to Rin fucking around with the second magic. Fuck.
`>no True Assassin
He is concealed.
Doesn't matter how well it fits the story, when was the last time nasu put an explicit sex scene in any of his works?
Do you remember how True Assassin took form?
>putting a spoiler character on the show's artwork
There's a reason even Gilgamesh isn't explicitly shown.
Aside from the story being so short, it had great outfit designs and effects. Not to mention Aoko's tits.
>get to see Gil vs cu chu animated
My dick needs this
Even just like a 1 or 2 minute part
Other anime have done it. Heavily censored, but still.
Because Gate of Babylon totally isn't right behind him, right?
Well, considering this is being conceived as Fate/Zero's sequel it's only natural that Gil is shown.
Have you watched Yosuga no Sora? That is the highest grade Anime VN Adaption. Sex scenes were practically borderline hentai
Doesn't matter, attempting to undo the past is a fool's folly.
And? That's not "explicitly shown".
Classic Valrape scene
Apparently not, Fate (and Turkeyhandle, I guess) is bigger than ever. I'm sorry there's no more source material of your waifus to fap to. But moving away from porn was anything but foolish for type moon.
Anyone with half of a braincell would figure this out.
I remember reading HA and thinking "they'd never make an anime adaptation of this route because of the worms," but ufotable did show it. On a younger Sakura too. I wouldn't count it out.
Still, he is shown in shadows.
YOU ARE FORGETTING THE MOST IMPORTANT PART
HOW IS LANCER GOING TO DIE THIS TIME
Using his mad skills and accidentally killing himself again.
Depends on the route.
HF death with a Bazett flashback would be nice.
Plot twist, he lives.
>was anything but foolish for type moon.
Who says you can't move away from it? The sheer fact it fits the story fine.
You need to get over the fact that sex is part of FSN
>yfw Ataraxia follows this new anime
FHA anime by ufotable confirmed
What would he be sorry for?
For not saving her?
For not killing Kirei?
For not winning the Holy Grail like she wanted?
I don't know m8.
>F/HA gets a vita port and an anime before the translation patch is finished
I can't stop fucking laughing
She's dead, m8. No need for extra cheesy drama.
Was. Was part. And no, the sex scenes were idiotic and forced, like 95% of VNs with plot.
>We're being chased by a gigantic rapetrain! Quick, let's fuck!
Have you seen the picture I posted?
YnS was the exception.
>They said it will be Saber-centered.
What? If anything the new info implies it will be Shirou centered. And Fate is the least Shirou centered.
>And no, the sex scenes were idiotic and forced
Damn, your immaturity is amazing.
>Willfully ignoring millenia of this existing in cultures around the world in order to try and handwave it
Let's just ignore all the sex present in mythology as well in a story using mythological figures. Makes no sense!!111
This pleases me.
>Hurdurr sex is sacred
Grow up already
Am I the only one that's glad about not getting True Assassin? Sasaki was a much more interesting character.
The King returns!
I feel like UBW is the most likely to get shafted. If they want to ride the F/Z popularity wave, then some kind of mix between Fate (Saber, Gil) and HF (Kotomine, the Matou household, Illya) is probable. UBW has the least parallels and connections to Zero.
>He doesn't like muh stupid sex scenes in muh 10/10 masterpiece visual novel! So immature!
I read things other than visual novels champ. The adult content in fate was shitty fap material to draw in the largest audience possible.
The rape scene in KnK? Fine. Suppress Roa in my ass/I need semen or the worms make me crazy? Not fine
Except it's the one that connects Shirou's character to Kiritsugu the most.
TELL ME ABOUT SAKURA
WHY DOES SHE HAVE WORMS
Oh boy the kids are here. Isn't today a schoolday?
Good riddance. Kerry's a fag.
Eating undercooked pork.
There's a reason she needed Shirou to teach her how to cook.
Wow, not understanding the implications of the psyche and the soul being viewed as one in the same philosophy and culture and the notion of damaging and altering the psyche via rape and having an effect on the soul with it is really just too much for you to grasp, eh?
Yeah, I'm sure you're a real intelligent pursuer of fine literature.
I'm saying they won't ignore it. What you said isn't definite.
Why are soccer moms posting on /a/ of all places?
>If anything the new info implies it will be Shirou centered
Dude it literally states that they want to focus on Shirou.
Did you use wikipedia to find all those big words bud? Well aren't you just the smartest thing.
>Not following posts
>Posting anyway without thought
Let's be honest as long as Pic related is in it. You faggots will eat it up, even if it's covered in shit
That really was a cool part of the story.
But I don't want Saber to have the spotlight.
Did you mean to post a picture of Kotomine? Because he's the only Fate character I'd wade through shit for.
Are you seriously trying to say that FSN's sex scenes have literary merit?
As long as Saber's in it, I'll watch it sure.
If it's shit, then I'm totally fine with tossing it aside like Tsukihime if there were to ever be a bad remake of it
No shit who else could they focus on? Mitsuduri?
All my favorite moments of FSN happen when Saber is somehow missing.
not accurate. She'd be lording her chest over those inferior kings.
>not liking Sparks Liner High
Saber of course. They're saying they don't want to make Shirou the tag-along kid again.
>being okay with a graphic rape scene followed by multiple magic homicide.
At least try.
Why does Saber scream like a retard when she fights?
Still kinda counts since she's on the opposite team.
The one exception
She is there, it doesn't count.
When will this be made?
Are you illiterate?
Why try to educate the retarded online like yourself anyway? Some of the scenes really were important to the story and made perfect sense while utilizing sex. But you can't even grasp that and simply jump around going SEX IS BAD SEX IS BAD SEX MAKES THINGS BAD SEX IS POINTLESS. Newsflash, nearly everything in the story could be explained in another way, the way presented isn't better or worse because YOU say so. Leave it be, child.
You're utterly ridiculous. We have a story using magic in its most dark and profane ways while at the same time calling on the figures of the past and you're bothered by sex of all things? Even though actual rituals in real life for thousands of years have been employing it and its not odd at all to have that in a story about magic that's already attempting to display it in a grittier and unconventional way compared to modern day?
There's no point in conversing with one such as yourself. Flail your arms like the child you are as I ignore your posts.
I wouldn't even be surprised.
You don't actually think battle cries sound cool, do you?
>Some of the scenes really were important to the story and made perfect sense while utilizing sex.
The explanations in Realta Nua were much better and left no awkward shitty sex scenes
>The explanations in Realta Nua were much better
Not that guy but what the fucking hell are you on? Stop taking those drugs, son
Why is drinking blood much better than vagina-drinking cum?
So, can we agree that UBW or HF are the best routes to adapt right now? I would only watch HF for Kirei.
I bet you are a UBW shitter
isn't there a SnK for you to fuck off to?
vampires are waaay cool dude like you dont even know vampires are so cool
It felt less forced. And it saved us from the shitty scenes.
Whoa calm down kiddo, I'm not even the guy who you were replying to with that post. I seem to have stepped on a landmine though. Were you feeling frustrated?
Too much stupid
sex is waaay cool dude like you dont even know sex is so cool
It's just chinese cartoons bro, chill.
>most dark and profane ways
Now I definitely know you only read VNs. And saying "yourself" instead of "you" doesn't make you look smart, protip.
>not liking Educated "Sakura" Prostitute
sad as fuck, though.
>nothing you ever do will ever amount up to anything. Nothing you accomplish will remain in the minds of people, because they're not your own deeds. You don't have anywhere to GO when you die. You are not even yourself, just this ghostly image of a man who never accomplished anything in a war that is clearly out of your league.
>And yet, you will hold the line.
Shhhh, Nasu made it that way cuz of his "Previous Works" F/Zfags won't understand only TMFags will
>Attempting to write off a well constructed post with childish quips
Not even that guy but you can do better haha
>a well constructed post
You can't seriously believe that.
Seriously, not even that guy but man /a/ has sure gotten a lot of people who think they're not fucking stupid for being condescending to faceless posts.
You don't get much darker than human sacrifice and rape. Just how edgy do you think you are? What am I even reading? Were so many of you threatened by that guys posts that you need to attack because you feel inferior?
>Even trying to nitpick his use of English
OH WOW THIS IS HILARIOUS
I love you. Become mine!
I mean he used punctuation and grammar. I guess that counts for something.
It's more because ufotable have proven that they aren't very good at adapting to a different medium. When it's 1:1, they do an excellent job, but when they start trying to take liberties, you get shit like 2 entire episodes of Kerry's back story and cutting out the best part of Gil's and Lancelot's scenes in F/Z.
It won't be as much of a trainwreck as DEEN's, I'm sure of that, but I don't have high hopes either.
Crowley wrote extensively on the topic of sex magick. Some of these works were published and made available to the general public, others were secret and could only be obtained by initiates of Ordo Templi Orientis.
Liber IAO - IAO. Sexual Magick. Gives three methods of attainment through a willed series of thoughts. The active form of Liber CCCXLV.
De Nuptis Secretis Deorum Cum Hominibus - Sexual magick
Liber Stellae Rubeae - According to Crowley, a secret ritual of Apep, the heart of IAO-OAI, delivered unto V.V.V.V.V. for his use in a certain matter of The Book of the Law (Liber AL vel Legis). Sexual Magick veiled in symbolism.
Liber Agape vel C vel Azoth - The Book of the Unveiling of the Sangraal wherein it is spoken of the Wine of the Sabbath of the Adepts. Secrets instructions of the ninth degree of the O.T.O. (Sex Magick)
Liber Cheth vel Vallum Abiegni - A perfect account of the task of the Exempt Adept considered under the symbols of a particular plane, not the intellectual. Sexual magick veiled in symbolism.
Liber A'ash vel Capricorni Pneumatici - Analyzes the nature of the creative magickal force in man, explains how to awaken it, how to use it and indicates the general as well as the particular objects to be gained thereby. Sexual magick heavily veiled in symbolism.
The Book of Lies - includes some techniques in symbolic language, including extended mutual oral sex (Chapter 69) while intoxicated on hashish.
The Paris Working - A record of homosexual magick operations.
Energized Enthusiasm - An essay developing the idea of creativity as a sexual phenomenon. Specially adapted to the task of attainment of control of the Body of Light, development of intuition, and Hatha yoga.
When are we getting CP S5?
Kirei and Shirou are going to fight in the batcave, aren' t they?
>The Paris Working - A record of homosexual magick operations.
too fucking good
I lost it
Yeah, the sex scenes make sabre go from a badass king of britain who don't need nobody to fuck shit up to
>"i know how to please a man"
>"I won't wear panties that haven't personally been chosen by shirou"
Face it, they did it for the moe Waifu Points, and also because sex sells
I know everyone likes to suck F/SN off on this board, hell I enjoy it, even as shit as it can get at times. But F/SN is nowhere near the most dark and profane magic has gotten in literature. If you think otherwise, well, expand your horizons, I guess.
They fight in a cave after all!
Now we need someone to translate that.
Yes, but who is the Joker?
Finally, someone returns to the original point that got lost in all these "muh maturity" posts
They stated that Nasu has been present and given pointers every time they deviated from the VN material, if it gives you any relief. It shouldn't. Nasu wrote bondage Sakura for DEEN.
Oh, so there really is legitimate merit for sex in a story going back centuries upon centuries. Guess that settles it.
I'm tired of that fucking picture, and it shows that you've never read hollow ataraxia. Saber explains that she never learned to swim because she never had the need as she just walked on the fucking water.
Saber's entire story is about her becoming a person instead of just a king. Shirou's penis helped with that.
Why was she suddenly unable to do that in HA, then? It was a perma-on blessing from the fairies or something, I thought.
Yes, because people are never any different in bed than how they present themselves in daily lives? Especially one that's already had sex and knows what pleases a man specifically due to experiencing it firsthand.
Especially not a Christian figure from the 4-5th century too. What the fuck am I reading?
Is that really true? I hope you understand what you're saying that Nasu wrote the worst part of the DEEN adaption.
The source can be as old as you want, but when the implementation is shit, it still ends up as shit.
Anon, the "Christian" figure in the Arthur myth wasn't Arthur, but Galahad.
Because to be a person, you've gotta know how to make a person.
Nasu is a shitty writter, news at 11.
...why can't you think for yourself and understand it?
Because that's not how fairy magic works.
No one dislikes Saber. Even the haters like her, that's something.
Dude...dude. Stop. Just stop.
The entire origin stems from him being chosen by God as the only one that can pull the sword from the stone.
The initiation in the 12th grade of the O.T.O. is basically getting fucked in the ass by higher grade member
>Confirmed for original plot
>Lancer wins the war
I WANT TO BELIEVE
Why don't you go read a bit about Galahad?
Why is /a/ so full of uneducated swines?
I'm a fairy and that's not true at all. Please stop disrespecting the community of creatura magicka thank you.
I sort of agree with you, but
I like to watch her suffer and die.
It's still a form of love. See, you're Saberfag and you don't even know it. She's your waifu and you don't even know.
If I take them off will she die?
>Rider is the main Servant in HF
Did you even read the post? She can't swim because she has the ability to walk on water. In HA she simply wanted to try swimming because why the fuck not? It's not like people go to swimming pools to cross a body of water by any means possible. They do it because they enjoy the act of swimming.
Doesn't mean Arthur isn't a Christian figure. The dude even prays in...you know what, I'm just going to ignore you.
>some original content
Okay guys, what if we get male Saber from Prototype?
>the best part of Gil's and Lancelot's scenes in F/Z.
What did they cut out? I don't remember anything cut out.
Either way, you're pretty obsessed with her. Whether it be love or hatred or a crazy irony of both, it seems everyone is attracted to her in some way.
Well she's the closest thing to a main Servant.
Protip: Only one Arthurian character got to chill with Jesus and it wasn't Arthur.
You know what, I'll ignore you too. It's clear that you're only exposition to the myth has been FSN.
Your post is hilarious because of your ignorance. 10/10
I thought most people want to learn to swim so they don't drown and enjoyment only comes after?
Yeah, but since when did she have the ability to turn it off? And if she could always do that, why didn't she do it in ye olde englande and have fun there? Exact same fucking reason.
> My face when they do something crazy like dealing nigh-fatal wounds to Saber AND Archer in that very first engagement, forcing early development of Shirou.
Are you ready for mana transfer dragon: electric boogaloo?
You're hilarious for your ignorance.
5/10 for the shitty reaction face.
He's right though you idiot. You don't have to go to heaven in order to be a Christian figure in mythology. Are you retarded or something? Being chosen by God not to mention resurrection are decidedly Christian elements not to mention other things.
Nobody can be a Christian figure except Galahad? Why are you so stupid? Why can't you just admit you fucked up?
Nah, dying is too hardcore.
Saber = dragon + lava
Rin = dolphins + bubbles
Sakura = ? + ??
Because she had king duties, remember?
If she can bathe then she can turn it off
>Expecting retards to admit their mistakes like men on 4chan
It won't happen.
They cut out Gil being awesome and most of the explanation/introspection before Lancelot's death. Both were good climaxes to the servants in my opinion.
It would be alright if the other climax, the Kerrytugu vs. Kirei fight was done well, but even that was pretty shoddy.
Now that I think about it, the last part of F/Z seemed very rushed and poorly done.
WHAT IF SABER HAS TO TRANSFER MANA TO SHIROU BY RIN CASTING A SPELL TO GROW BACK HER PENIS
WHAT WOULD THE INSIDES OF SHIROU BE LIKE?
You must have loved DEEN's version if that's all you're looking for here.
>Having fun as King
It's like you didn't even read F/SN.
As for your other point, she actually can turn it off. What you're implying is tha totherwise, she couldn't take baths and would just stand ontop of the bathtub when she tried to bathe.
Or maybe she couldn't turn it off until she got a crappy summons from Shirou, and in actuality she smelled like horse shit in her original setting and could never do anything about it. Would seem fitting for the time period.
Worms + hymens.
Galahad is more of a Christian figure than Arthur ever was.
He was even created to mirror Jesus.
I know what you mean, but it isn't like those were their best moments. I think the animation in Kirei vs Kiritsugu was kind of odd, but it was still good.
Even if it was kind of rushed, it wasn't bad at all, especially compared to previous TM adaptations.
gud b8 m8ey u almost got me dere ya wanker
>Anon, the "Christian" figure in the Arthur myth wasn't Arthur, but Galahad.
Oh wow, are you stupid or something?
>Arthur is able to withdraw the sword from the stone because he has been chosen by God to be the next king. Officers in the Roman army carried shields bearing portraits of their emperors. Geoffrey describes Arthur having a shield with the likeness of the Virgin Mary; this is a perfect image for a Christian hero who is primarily under the authority of God.
>What you're implying is tha totherwise, she couldn't take baths
Well, she -is- British.
Nobody was saying who was the greater Christian figure, why can't you just admit your mistake. Just grow up already.
>fucks her own sister
>has pet lion or some shit
>later revealed she had lots of shits and giggles and fun with her knights
Yeah, she sure was a boring little bitch who never could have conceived of swimming and fun at the same time.
You couldn't have asked an easier question. When has the answer to anything Shirou related not been "swords"?
Why don't you put everything in one post? Does it turn you on? Does it make you feel important? Are you happy?
>later revealed she had lots of shits and giggles and fun with her knights
>Still can't accept that you made a mistake
>good points from all routes
It was pretty much a low budget Fate with some anime original bullshit referencing parts of HF and UBW.
So fucking Shirou's ass would transport Saber to Unlimited Blade works?
Would a naked Archer be waiting for her in their to do battle?
She can choose wether to walk or not on water because that's why its a blessing, not a curse.
What do you want me to post? A public apology? How many words? 500? Lines? Do you want me to post a video?
What do you want me to do?
He's not me, idiot.
It just wasn't what I expected from ufotable and it showed that they don't have good foresight in doing the literature -> animation adaption. Hopefully with Nasu on board, everything will go well this time.
But if what the other anon said with him designing BDSM Sakura for DEEN was true...
Galahad is twelve-year-old self-insert fanfic tier, anyway.
You had Lancelot, Sir So-Fucking-Badass-And-Blessed-By-God, who couldn't even die when he tried to kill himself and bested the greatest fighters with nothing but a stick while naked.
And someone was like, "oh, yeah, well, what if my character is like Lancelot, except TOTALLY BETTER!" and then proceeds to have him beat Lancelot, The Previously Unbeatable at Fucking Anything other than Sucking at Stuff, at fucking everything. Including having AIDS or something, because I guess his friends forced his wanker character to have at least SOME downside.
You've got issues. Not sure why you feel the need to shit up /a/. You're turning your mistake into theater or something instead of just saying sorry and shutting up about it.
>later revealed she had lots of shits and giggles and fun with her knights
I thought it was just here and there with retarded shit like medieval soccer or whatever?
Also, you have to remember that swimming wasn't a big thing in those times.
Didn't you say you were going to ignore me, anyway? Why don't you just move on?
She never had to swim before, sorry but there is no character assassination.
>Being this much of an attention whore
Fuck the French. I'm glad other writers managed to tone down Lancelot from being a mary sue. Too bad they let Galahad slide.
I just hope that all we've been hearing is just an exaggeration and they are animating one of the routes.
Nothing wrong with that.
>Expecting people to say sorry because they lost an argument
Are you new?
Yeah, well...this cartoon was pretty cool, y'know?
Fate itself was a character assassination.
>Expecting even a shred of decency
Well he had the UBW in the beginning of the VN when he was talking to Sakura. He can just change his appearance with the snap of his fingers, so not really a big deal
They have only confirmed that there will be new material by Nasu. We don't know if they will follow a specific route, use a specific route as a core with other routes mixed in, do a complete mix of the routes or go full original.
No one would see it coming.
I think Fate is more like, you know, a character development.
You're free to dislike her, though.
Aww man is this some NTR shit?
SATSUKI ROUTE CONFIRMED.
You don't know how hard I raged when I couldn't hop onto her route in Tsukihime. I even looked it up and everything since I liked her the most. Fucking Nasu.
Illya Route finally confirmed. FUCK SABER
Taiga route at last...
The only thing we got as a main servant was Saber, and that was due to her being the main heroine of the Fate route. Unlimited Blade Work had focus on Archer because he was the hypocrisy of Shirou's ideals. Archer basically used Caster as a stepping stone so he can have more freedom with having the opportunity to kill Shirou. Rider had the most focus on Heaven's Feel because she too wanted to save Sakura.
It's an excuse for them to draw her in a swimsuit, nothing more. Sex Sells.
From a completely objective point of view they do this shit to make Seibah look as attractive and waifu material to the reader as possible, plus you can self insert as a worthless ginger Jap teenager who gets to fuck one of the more respected historical figures.
>Not praising your lord
The King deserves respect.
Is someone gonna translate the article?
Blue Balls Route
Just as Shirou seems to be hooking up with a girl, they reveal they've recently started an extremely intense and sexual relationship with some other girl. When he tries to hook up with Shinji in desperation, it's revealed he's already hooked up with Issei.
A king who sucks dicks deserves no respect.
Pets have entire VNs
>Implying women deserve no respect
Just you wait until tumblr hears of this!
Tumblr seems to be one of Saber's biggest supporters.
>And if she could always do that, why didn't she do it in ye olde englande and have fun there?
For someone who's apparently so invested in her character, you sure know fucking jackshit about it. You're actually asking why she never had fun when she was a king? Did the ENTIRETY OF HER FUCKING ARC elude you?
But no, let's just be honest here, we all know what's the problem with you. You started the franchise with Zero and have no fucking idea what you're talking about. You simply see Saber as "Hurr strong woman don't need no man" and think that's the entire scope of her character, so you sperg out like social justice warrior at the fact that there's scenes showing her as anything but a hardass with psuedo-yuri undertones with another girl.
This is why you do something as unbelievably stupid as saying a work written before Zero (by the franchise's actual author to boot) somehow misrepresents her character. It is a logical impossibility, but that escapes you because you're a little shit who got a boner at the prequel and is trying really hard to ignore that it is nothing but a secondary offshot whose every inconsistency with the main work is to be ignored as nothing but the result of the script being offloaded on a different author.
I believe he's referring to the source material.
Sucking each other's dicks was a usual thing among knights in Nasuverse Arthurian times. King is no exception.
I agree. Gil is such a worthless faggot.
>Rider and Archer in the foreground
This makes me really happy
Careful, you'll make them mad that you're right!
I don't care that much about FSN in general but I'll translate it because I'm nice.
"This direction is?"
Miura: The content of Fate/Stay Night should be assembled to follow the vector introduced by Fate/Zero, we are following that logic. If we succeed things should become interesting.
There is one more thing, from the time I received the post of director I decided one thing.
That is to draw precisely the character who is Emiya Shirou.
Shirou who is incomplete as a magician and doesn't possess any worthwile talent in the first stage of the story, adding to that Saber who is tied to an incomplete summoning, who doesn't receive enough mana and who can't fight at full strength.
Despite this while claiming to Saber "Women shouldn't fights", he still throw himself in the frontine.
Drawing him like this could make him a very annoying character with one wrong move.
But playing the original game I realized he wasn't just an idiot who wanted to become a hero, but someone who's heart is warped somewhere.
Why did he become this way, by understanding and despiting this I'm sure he could become a very attractive protagonist.
Sorry for the shit English and overtly literal translation, I'm tired and not paid.
>You started the franchise with Zero and have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
Good for him. FSN is dumb as fuck. Hopefully they will make something watchable out of this shitty VN. 40 hours wasted.
Where do people keep getting the "gil in UBW clothes"? Can't see it
Sounds like UBW with a Saber focus.
>mix of the routes
Well..ok. Its UFOtable and I trust them with Nasuverse related things. I just hope they pull it off.
Well this is certainly a good start.
You've never read FSN and got all of that from shit you've seen people say out of context, haven't you?
Stop making an ass of yourself, it's obvious you've only ever seen the Zero anime and are getting pissed at how much it doesn't matter. The first two claims ere not her own doing and the other two are straight-up bullshit.
The last one in particular would be actual character assassination if it were even remotely true, not to mention a gaping fucking plothole because Bedivere's monologue, which of course you've never read, explicitly points out that as a king she never so much as smiled or relaxed, at any point, ever.
Literally in the dead center of the image and his hair is down.
He doesn't have the fuckhuge shoulder pieces on.
I hope we get a HF OVA or something later. Too bad there's little Saber in it so it wouldn't sell as much.
The irony in this statement is that the KnK movies are nothing like the novels and ufotable took many liberties from it because...let's face it....they're pretty shit.
>Drawing him like this could make him a very annoying character with one wrong move.
Well, he was very annoying.
Even if it was minimal, we appreciate the effort. Thanks, man.
>Tumblr seems to be one of Saber's biggest supporters.
How do you know this?
>Drawing him like this could make him a very annoying character with one wrong move.
>But playing the original game I realized he wasn't just an idiot who wanted to become a hero, but someone who's heart is warped somewhere.
This is actually very good to hear. One of the problems with an adaption is that Shirou looks like a dumb ass unless they properly portray his reasoning. At least they recognize this fact.
>Despite this while claiming to Saber "Women shouldn't fights", he still throw himself in the frontine.
Doesn't this one only happen in Fate? Or am I remembering incorrectly?
Sparks Liner High, son. That's all the Saber focus we need.
I would have your back against any horde, anon.
Rider gets killed early in UBW and here Rider is on the foreground with Archer and Saber. While Caster, Assassin and Lancer are not focus.
Sounds like he's just talking about Shirou's character in the VN in general.
Basically, "fuck Fate route".
Only HF. It's the most important route that explains everything about the grail.
This is supposed to be the story of the next generation children.
All three Servants in the foreground are the Servants of those children.
The way that the director talks about Shirou and how he would want to recognize that Shirou has warped ideals and a warped sense of self rather than being a white knight sounds like it's not going to be Fate based, aside from the Saber centering.
It's the only route who features Zouken too
I don't think they'd adapt something that's not a true ending.
And it still would need all that came before that had little Saber, so it wouldn't sell as much as Fate or UBW thanks to all the Saberfags.
I am expecting most of the anime will be taking from HF as like you said it holds everything together.
Really wished it was just HF but still not judging this until we hear more.
Saberfags are killing the franchise.
It's more accurate to interpret as
>We have to be careful how we present Fate route
And Sakura's subplot. If they want to connect it with Fate/Zero there is no other option.
It's technically the only real "End" to Fate, so that point is a bit moot. There's a fair amount of Saber in the beginning, and if you excise a fair amount of cooking, you could probably go with a two episode gap of no Saber followed by the reveal of Alter or soemthing like that.
>We have to be careful how we present Shirou's character
There's shades of it in UBW, but then again Saber spends alot of that captive. Then when the final battle comes up, they need to go ahead and use Saber to fight Gil, which doesn't end up happening.
That's all the franchise has been from the start.
You don't remember where Shirou was hurtling himself in front of Saber, eh?
>Then when the final battle comes up, they need to go ahead and use Saber to fight Gil, which doesn't end up happening.
Isn't that because he knows he's the only one with the power to counter GoB, not because "SABER'S A WOMAN AND WOMEN CAN'T FIGHT"
my mistake, didn't notice the golden lights were his gate of babylon
Exactly. He knows at that point that he is the natural counter to Gil. And in the nasuverse, that means everything.
Aw yeah, more Saber
As much as I'd love for it to be HF, it's impossible because they could never show Saber being killed by Shirou.
>We have to be careful how we present Fate route
I'd be kind of glad if it was an original route. You routefags are the worst.
It's been like that since Fate/Stay Night was released ten years ago. Fate gets milked because of Japan favoring Saber and because of it's concept.
Post more Seiba!
No, fuck off.
It wills itself!
Why? It would be great and dramatic. F/Z is even more dark than this.
I'll do you one better and post the better heroine.
Sounds like Fate but with extra detail to Shirou's character. I really don't want to see Fate again.
>That is to draw precisely the character who is Emiya Shirou.
That is the important thing to take away from that excerpt. He also mentions how Shirou is a broken person, which isn't something that's really explored until later routes, but I don't see you claiming it's proof that they're adapting HF or whatever. He's just talking about what Shirou's character in general is and how he's going to try and make sure they do him justice.
Hail our King.
it's fucking confirmed
New season of Carnival Phantasm when?
>which isn't something that's really explored until later routes
It's obvious in the route itself and the new scenes could easily do it.
But I'm not really arguing for any one route, just pointing out facts.
It was pretty well established in the Fate route that Shirou had warped ideals. Kirei takes a jab at him about it at the very beginning, even. It's also the entire focus of the scene in the church basement where Kirei tempts Saber with the grail. People seem to ahte the Fate route so much that they don't even bother to remember anything about it.
In Fate? Not really, they go with it as if it was just survivor's guilt. If you go by Fate, Shirou just seems like another Saber, but then is revealed that is not exactly that as Shirou is really insane.
The divine chosen of Caliburn.
The blessed of the Lady.
>chosen by the sword
No, the entire point of the basement scene is survivor's guilt, not warped ideals. Maybe it foreshadows a bit the whole thing, but it's totally decontextualized.
Whoa. Hold up. You didn't think Shirou was behaving oddly at all through the entirety of Fate?
Just, stay away from me.
My problem with the Kerry v Kirei fight was that it started out of nowhere.
It was like they prepped, ended the episode and then skipped into the middle of things. It was jarring as fuck.
>Just, stay away from me.
As if anyone would want to be close to you.
The only meaningful fact here is that the director is referencing aspects of Shirou's characterization in the VN in relation to how he would like to approach Shirou's characterization in the anime. There is nothing more to read into it.
You are fucking stupid.
HF with additional fights for shounen kids. They can even kill some unimportant servants like Lancer or Asassin. Then in episode 10 the dark shadow will appear.
Everyone should be happy with this.
Herald the King.
Destined to return.
Fate route : Shirou moral fag
UBW route : Glamourized Shirou
HF : Broken Shirou
Wasn't it like that in the novel? I remember being shocked when the fight started out of nowhere in episode 24, but if I recall correctly in the novel everything before had been Kiritsugu's thoughts. I think adding a scene before of Kiritsugu going down some stairs or something would have been better, but they were kind of short on time.
HF is Phoenix Shirou
He had to be fully broken down to his ideals and body before he could be reborn once more as a semi-normal human.
He is odd indeed, but they rationalize it with survivor's guilt in the church scene and you buy it. Then UBW comes and says you that he is far more insane than that.
King of Knights.
King of the Code.
King of Britain.
They had a scene at the end of episode 23 with Kiritsugu approaching Kirei, but it was too short.
Also, the novel had that badass narration about how the Holy Grail War was nothing, just a stage to the Kiritsugu vs Kirei combat and how even if it was the first time they actually met face to face, they didn't needed to talk to each other, so they just began the fight instantly.
I'm wondering how they'll sell this.
Unless they actually go for HA this would be the end of UFO's money printing from Nasu wouldn't it?
More like Saberfriends are sustaining the franchise
It's Fate, you can write "Fate" to a stone and it will sell. Even DEEN anime sold like 25k.
Indeed. I said broken because even on UBW his ideals are show like something noble. Only on HF you see he's just a pretty fucked guy.
Tsukihime by ufotable is 100% guaranteed once Nasu gets the remake out.
How was fate/Zero?
King of Hunger
Blessed be the Saberfriend.
Full of wisdom and vigor.
Kindness above all and naught but courage against the wicked posters of feces.
100% of 0 is 0.
I was hoping they would do it like the sound drama - with both of them having a short inner monologue before engaging each other. That was a great build up.
I meant how they'll decide to end the fountain of money. Will they really tell all of FSN here in this anime or will it just be a single route of sorts so that they can print even more FSN later?
I would love if they actually tried portraying Shirou's brain problems better in normal SoL too. I'm not talking about turning him to some kind of brooding dark edgemaster, but for example seeing some unnatural body language or expressions would be pretty cool.
>Not having already read FSN and then watching F/Z
Go from this place. You know what you must do. Your quest is begun...
Get out, Chuuni
In Zero for some reason they were afraid of inner monologues or something.
I'm late to the party but
I'M SO FUCKING MAD
GOD DAMN IT
FUCK ALL OF JAPAN
FUCK YOU NASU
FUCK YOU UFOTABLE
FUCK YOU SABER
YOUR ROUTE SUCKS
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CHARACTER
YOUR DESIGN IS SHIT
YOU'RE NOT CUTE
YOU'RE NOT FUNNY
YOU GENERIC COCK MONGLING WHORE
AMERICA NEEDS TO HURRY UP AND NUKE JAPAN AGAIN FUCK THIS SHIT
FUCKING CHRIST I'M ANGRY
I read fate and UBW but not HF. I guess I'll download F/Z.
>making a mishmash route anime
I hope it's not the same case in F/SN, because Shirou would be difficult to portray without knowing his thoughts.
Did you want HF. I thought it was the worst route.
TM is chuunishit.
We know that already.
It worked in Carnival Phantasm.
I wanted ANYTHING besides Fate + Mix bullshit.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN SHIROU MASTURBATING TO SWORD DIAGRAMS AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER
Until the task is seen through you must nary stray. To thine ill it be unheeded.
Well, to be fair, the only route with a good pace is UBW. And there you lose a lot of important shit. So it's a good idea to mix the strong points of each route.
Why are you mad? Nothing has been confirmed yet.
Then I'll be off.
You're going to get Saber all bothered if you talk like that.
Then rejoice, because absolutely nothing has been confirmed yet and OP is just jumping to conclusions based on yet another piece of promotional material that is obviously not supposed to indicate what route(s) the anime will adapt.
I'm prepared for her return
That's what they said about Tsukihime.
>That's what they said about Tsukihime.
Tsukihime didn't mix stuff that much
This is giving me hope. Looks like they got their shit together at least. I'll pray that they'll succeed and manage to not make the mix complete shit.
Thank you anon.
It actually worked great in manga.
UBW is not well paced. None of the routes really are.
Compared to Fate and HF, UBW has a great pacing.
But bondage Sakura aways existed, what are you talking?
I disagree, I found HF to be the better paced of the three. Still shit though.
It wasn't that much of a mix. Far side didn't get much coverage.
UBW has a lot of good moments paced out through it. You're never left wanting for something good.
HF has the BEST moments though but also some of the worst moments
It's like UBW spread all it's good stuff out while HF just aimed for a few really high peaks.
Fate is not as good as either of them.
The first half of UBW bored the shit out of me.
HF crammed everything interesting into the last few days. It's a great climax, but overall I refuse to replay the whole route.
HF is the climax of the piece no matter what anyone has told you, and you haven't found out the real truth until you've finished it. FSN in itself is a three act piece that needs all pieces to make sense.
> I found HF to be the better paced of the three
0/10. Not even rused.
To think that the die hard HF fags have become so comitted to their task that they attempt to defend or ignore HF's main major failing outside of its shitty plot devise heroine.
All of HF except the last half an hour bored the shit out of me
Too bad, there's a lot of content in the days when people think "Nothing happened" and just skipped over it.
>fistfighting over the fate of the world
I love you voice and all, but fuck off with your bullshit Kotomine.
So you read the last 30% of the route in half an hour? Wow.
>I want to draw Shirou exactly as a protagonist this time
As long as it's not generic harem shonen hero B, but the fucked-up tragic hero with a badass side wxwe see in the VN, sure.
Neither one of them at that point is fighting for the fate of the world. That it's on the line is just coincidence.
What exactly about that post makes me a "die hard HFfag?" I said the pacing was still shit. You're the one coming off as a retarded fanboy who's incapable of seeing that UBW is just as bad (if not worse) in that department.
It Arc route with bits from every other route. Hell he even manage to throw in KT scene
No, it's more that all the content that I enjoyed when I first played came form choosing the wrong options, leading me to eventual bad endings since I didn't pass the affection score checks.
Nobody skipped over it. It's just everything that happened was infodumps with no actual events. The parts between Saber's "death" and the Berserker fight were unbearably boring.
HF is great, but nothing actually fun happens until the last days. UBW actually had some interesting fights here and there. For an anime adaptation it would be better.
Nasu's guidelines to Miura and co regarding Shirou:
>Shirou is like a robot that wants to be human.
>Don't draw him looking too happy
Rei clone incoming.
Your ruse was apparent when you said HF was "the best paced"
I dont call ages spent in Shirou's living room cooking and then ages spent looking after Sakura sick in bed and whining "good pacing"
>some of the characters' outfits will also be modernized from their original designs.
am i the only one that want to see a dreamy fake assassin?
kojiro senpai pls notice me
>wxwe see in the VN
I meant "like we see in the VN"
It is the best paced. I'd tell you to go read it again and see for yourself, but you obviously are too biased against it already for that to help.
I hope it won't be Fate route battle against Kotomine Kirei, if so I'm going to be mad as hell!
Day 9 and Day 10 are pretty good. The only days where "nothing" happens are 11-13, but those can been seen as character bonding.
No, Shirou's always been like that. He's not emotionless, just seems to be annoyed constantly.
That IS bad pacing.
Yes, but DEEN Shirou was like happy all the time.
UBW > HF
HF > UBW
HF and UBW had the same amount of fights, but it's just they were less memorable in HF. I mean who really remembers shit like Archer vs Rider or Rider vs Hassan.
No one wants to remember Hassan, which is why his wish is to make a name for himself in the first place.
DEEN Shirou was a lot of things. Though I do like the blanket made out of swords at the end of the tv series.
All the routes got days where "nothing" happens too. It hels that days 11-13 are actually pretty short.
The thing is that's the time where the climax is close, so nothing happening over three days feels pretty tiring.
Answer = Sparks Liner High > Nine Lives Revolver > Crazy Train II = UBW Finale > HF Finale = Kotomine fistfight
I liked those.
Rider vs. Hassan was like pretty hilarious with him going smug but getting curbstomped instead because Rider was acting as Sakura Servant and not Shinji's.
Actually, throw in Jewel Sword Zelretch between NLR and Crazy Train II.
>implying Kotomine bumfucking Hassan wasn't good
Hassan gets roflstomped by everyone. Archer is being pressured by the Shadow and he still easily boots Hassan's ass all over the place.
Hassan is an awesome jobber, he always makes the people who fights him looks pretty good.
I don't even remember what Crazy Train II was. God damn it it's been long, I'm getting senile.
I think it is Rider and Shirou vs Dark Saber.
Shirou and Rider double teaming Saber Alter. I'm PRETTY sure it's called that. Since Saber vs Rider in Fate was called Crazy Train I.
I agree that the fights on HF are way better. But the thing is : UBW fights happens more often along the route. For a anime that would be better. HF would be pretty much talking heads until the second half kicks in.
Right, all I could think of was some Ozzy Osbourne shit.
Nah, actually a lot of the fights happen early on there. There's around fifteen fights in each route if I recall, and a real majority of them happens before the final days. What I'm saying is they didn't feel as grand as the ones in UBW at times so they aren't as often remembered.
What is supposed to happen tomorrow exactly?
What if it's a mixed route in the sense that it uses the events of HF as the base, but then brings in the major aspects from Fate and UBW?
Like, Saber doesn't get corrupted and stays around as a counterpoint to Archer's exploration of his ideals. Archer starts up his shit and the struggle between those two replaces all of the SOL cooking in the beginning of the route. After their fight gets resolved is when Archer gets blown the fuck up and Shirou gets his arm. Have Gil stick around rather than jobbing to the Shadow to give Saber someone to fight and bring in the kingship debate stuff.
Basically, replace all of the boring parts of HF with the other routes. Sucks that Saber Alter wouldn't show up, but I guess there might still be room for it later on in the story.
Dunno if it was made out of swords, since Shirou can make things that aren't swords at possibly a greater cost as long as they aren't phantasms in most cases. His shed is fully of little machine parts he's projected to fix things over time, and Archer traces a fishing reel in Ataraxia.
Though maybe it was shown to be made out of swords there.
A lot of the early HF fights suck because they're all gimmicky oneshot types. Saber rapes Rider, Assassin getting eaten from the inside because of loltechnicallity by Hassan, Caster going crazy and into shock, Lancer getting ganked by Hassan and the Shadow, Gilgamesh getting eaten, Archer getting critted, Berserker getting kipnapped etc.
None of those were interesting fights, they just happened for the sake of building up the Shadow and clearing the playing field.
T-M Ace, but it's out already because Japan lives in the future.
So why we don't get a proper PV for the anime yet?
That's what i'm hoping for. All the routes had strong points( Yes, even Fate ). But none of them are reeeeally suited for an anime adaptation.
Some of Nasu's comments about Shirou's projection confuse me. Like how he can't do guns, despite guns being very simple mechanical metal objects. I could understand not being able to project bullets or shells, but guns?
Can Shirou project a gun if it has a bayonet mounted onto it? What about every part individually and then he puts it together?
Because they haven't made one.
There's over two and a half seasons before it starts airing. A PV should come out in July the earliest, but probably much later
Does prisma illya 2 air this summer or fall?
Because anime coming out in fall 2014
I like the part where Hassan is about to stab Shirou from behind, but Archer just does kicks him while calling Hassan a third-rate.
I keep thinking that Archer's pretending to be Kamen Rider or something.
Any news on when UFOtable will do a Fate/Tiger Colosseum adaptation?
He's just acting as a counter guardian, there is nothing else to say.
I hate the way Nasu gives us concepts like Counter Guardians and explains them briefly all the time, and if we want to know more we have to buy extra material. He should just make bigger infodumps in his works.
No, he's trying to prevent it, which is different. Still, for once he's got a chance to do something about it, so it must be nice for him.
Except no, Guardians are just kill bots with the personality removed as they coldly eliminate the target, and they have unlimited mana backing.
He states the reason cleanly at the time while he's feeling great there, it's because he's a sort of tainted spirit as well so the Shadow has a harder time effecting him like it would Hercules or Saber.
Bondage Sakura existed in Fate route?
Every time I see this discussion, people only ever talk about the fights. Good pacing is not about spacing out your action scenes. It's about developing the plot at an appropriate speed and getting it where it needs to go when it needs to get there. This can be achieved by a simple dialogue scene between a few characters just as well as it can by an exciting fight scene. Every scene contributes to or detracts from pacing, not just the more actiony ones. Saying "oh, this route has more fights throughout it" or "you're wrong, this route has lots of fights earlier on too" doesn't mean shit. If those fight scenes don't meaningfully advance the plot or the scenes between them are similarly worthless, then guess what: you've got a poorly paced piece of writing.
Bondage Sakura was in the UBW parts of the anime.
Having all the talking concentrated and then all the fighting concentrated is bad pacing. Fights have to be spread out. That's the point of the argument.
Because the plot is in a rut for the most part. Shirou's denying that he knows it might be Sakura, Sakura's doing her best to not be a bother and the Shadows fucking everything.
Had it not been for Shinji, nothing would have been set into motion.
Oh, it's all a blur.
Majority of /a/ thinks something is boring if it isn't about all action and fights and powerlevels.
>how dare they make me read more than 20 lines of subtitles
He sure doesn't want to have to clean things after everything is done, but still, for Emiya Shirou point of view it is a part of his job.
No, that's not right at all. There's not some law of writing that says it's impossible to have good pacing in a story if you don't have action consistently spaced throughout it. In fact, generally it's viewed as better to concentrate that sort of stuff towards the end, during the climax. Obviously, you don't have to, though. There's no set-in-stone rule for these things.
I agree there's no laws set in stone, but that's what happened in HF, which made UBW have better pacing.
What if all the fight scenes did in fact advance the plot in some way or aid the situation as it was going on?
Saber vs Rider introduced Zouken as a heretic, gave early on development to Shinji there which led Shirou to confront things regarding the Matou's sooner which led him to invite Sakura over, and Shinji losing early on is what started his spiral downward as a human.
Medea being taken out early on eliminated a prime candidate in the war, showed the viewer that something was going on in town if something existed that could destroy the seemingly invincible fortress so easily, and gave rise to the True Assassin.
Lancer's death was the basis for getting Kotomine into the action as he met with Shirou the next day and revealed that his servant had died but he felt a great disturbance in this war. Not only that but it led to True Assassin gaining more of a personality after consuming Lancer since that's apparently something he does, it establishes True Assassin's NP, and reveals something about Shadow in the temple which pays off later when Shirou is trapped there against Zouken.
I can keep going, but it's foolish to think that every one of or even any of the fights didn't have meaning in some form to the plot.
No, it's still different. He hates being a CG because he'll never save anyone through it, for once he's got a chance to do it again.
Even though he's bitter about how his predisposition for this shit got him right into the mess, he'll gladly fall back to it. It's not his job, it's what he wants to do.
And that's why /a/ generally loves SoL, right? Because you can just sit back and enjoy the explosions and battles.
Rider was like Sakura's bad end, she's the closest to a representative servant for HF. The only reason it doesn't appear as such is because Nasu fucked up with Rider big time and spent too much time on solo Shirou/Sakura scenes.
I wasn't talking in terms of power, he isn't actually a real counter guardian, but merely that since Emiya Shirou's case is solved, there is nothing more to do from his point of view. All that remains is his job.
You are twisting my words. I never said the fights don't have meaning. I said that ignoring everything else and focusing on the fights as an argument for whether a route has good pacing or not is retarded, because unless every single plot development happens in a fight scene, then you're leaving out important things. And even if that were the case, you'd need the context of the rest of the scenes to determine whether things were decently paced or not.
Yes, you're saying what I was trying to.
I wish DMC3 wasn't such a shitty pc port. If it had a modding community, I could be playing Vergil with Agni & Rudra while shooting swords everywhere.
Yes, that's why he had to give her like a ton of scenes in HA, turning her into a very likeable character.
So it took them a 10 page article to say "New clothes to Shirou, Saber and Rin. We will put extra emphasis on Shirou's character. There will be anime original scenes."?
I found her annoying there and still rather bland.
Yep, that's all. Welcome to Japan.
That's because your shit tase is showing, nothing personal.
Meta-reference to Nasu's writing.
I've yet to read through the partial patch, but hearing that my waifu gets more focus makes me glad.
She's living with Sakura at Shirou's house, because Rin, Saber, and the rest of his harem took to living there recently. Of course since the war is technically not going we see a lot more slice of life and character moments between the various characters at times.
SoL in FHA was so much better than in FSN.